Tangle - National newspapers decide not to endorse.
Episode Date: October 29, 2024On Friday, The Washington Post announced it would not endorse a presidential candidate in this year's election and would continue to forgo presidential endorsements in the future. Will Lewis, the pape...r's publisher, announced the decision in a column that described the non-endorsement as a return to the paper's pre-1970s tradition. Ad-free podcasts are here!Many listeners have been asking for an ad-free version of this podcast that they could subscribe to — and we finally launched it. You can go to tanglemedia.supercast.com to sign up!You can read today's podcast here, our “Under the Radar” story here and today’s “Have a nice day” story here.Check out Episode 7 of our podcast series, The Undecideds. Please give us a 5-star rating and leave a comment!Take the survey: What do you think of the recent non-endorsements? Let us know!You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our podcast is written by Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Jon Lall. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Will Kaback, Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle Podcast,
the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking,
and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and I am back in the chair today.
First of all, a huge shout out and thank you to John for covering for me the last few days.
I was in San Diego. Those of you who have been following this podcast for some time, you know that aside from politics and Tangle, one of my big life passions is Ultimate Frisbee, which I played
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the weekend. It was super fun and it came at a crazy time. Obviously,
we are in the middle of an election season. It's the final run. It was incredibly difficult to
navigate and, you know, handle these two big life things at the same time. But the season's over now.
I'm locked in for the final week of the election, and we are so excited about
the coverage we can bring you in the next week and being a source of news you guys trust
down the final stretch. And there's a lot going on. So today we're going to talk about
the newspaper endorsements. I guess we should say the lack of endorsements from two major
U.S. papers.
We're going to break down exactly what happened, what we think it means, what it says about the state of the media.
We also have a very important reader question that I want to address about election fraud.
I obviously have some big thoughts here, and I'm looking forward to it.
So with that, I'm going to pass it to John to introduce today's topic, and I'll be back
for my take.
Thank you, Isaac, and welcome, everybody. Here are your quick hits for today.
First up, incendiary devices started fires at a ballot dropbox in Portland, Oregon,
and in Vancouver, Washington, damaging hundreds of ballots.
Police say they have
identified a suspect vehicle connected to the fires. Number two, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
and seven foreign counterparts advised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that a failure
to approve an extension of the financial correspondence between banks in Israel and
the West Bank by the October 31st deadline could cause the collapse of the Palestinian economy. Number three, the Pentagon said that thousands of North Korean troops were
moving toward the battlefield in Russia's western Kursk region. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte
called the development a dangerous expansion of the war. Number four, Philadelphia District
Attorney Larry Krasner filed a lawsuit alleging that Elon Musk and his America Political Action Committee's daily $1 million giveaway to registered voters constitutes an illegal lottery scheme.
And number five, Steve Bannon, a former White House aide to President Trump, was released from prison after completing a four-month sentence for contempt of Congress.
A crisis this morning among legacy media when it comes to covering presidential elections.
The Washington Post announcement that it will not endorse a candidate this year or in any future races has reportedly led to thousands of canceled subscriptions and even some resignations. It is the first such decision
for the paper in 36 years, but its publishers claim it is, quote, tradition. Thousands of
Washington Post readers have canceled their subscriptions after the newspaper announced it
would not endorse a presidential candidate. The publisher says it's, quote, returning to our roots of not endorsing presidential candidates.
Before 1976, the Post did not typically endorse candidates.
Sources tell The Wall Street Journal that an editorial was already in the works
endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris.
Critics claim the decision was made over fears of retribution from former President Trump.
On Friday, The Washington Post announced it would not endorse a presidential candidate in this year's election and would continue to forego presidential endorsements in the future.
Will Lewis, the paper's publisher, announced the decision in a column that described the non-endorsement as a return to the paper's pre-1970s tradition.
the non-endorsement as a return to the paper's pre-1970s tradition.
We recognize that this will be read in a range of ways, including as a tacit endorsement of one candidate or as a condemnation of another, or as an abdication of responsibility, Lewis wrote.
That is inevitable. We don't see it that way. We see it as consistent with the values the
Post has always stood for and what we hope for in a leader, character and courage in service
to the American ethic, veneration for the rule of law, and respect for human freedom in all its aspects.
We also see it as a statement in support of our readers' ability to make up their own minds on
this, the most consequential of American decisions, whom to vote for as the next president.
Several Washington Post columnists expressed their frustration with the decision,
with some quickly publishing editorials admonishing their employers for their decision.
Shortly after the announcement, the paper's news division reported on its own inner workings,
citing anonymous sources who alleged the paper had prepared to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris
before the company's billionaire owner, Jeff Bezos, halted the endorsement.
A slew of celebrities and journalists responded to the news by saying they were canceling their subscriptions, and many readers made similar promises while speculating that Bezos
was caving to fear former President Donald Trump would retaliate against his business interests
if re-elected. As of Monday, more than 200,000 people had canceled their digital subscriptions
to the Post, according to an NPR report. On Wednesday, Bezos published an essay in the
Post's opinion section defending the decision, saying it had nothing to do with his personal
interest in arguing that editorial endorsements contribute to a loss of trust in the media.
We must be accurate, and we must be believed to be accurate. It's a bitter pill to swallow,
but we are failing on the second requirement, Bezos wrote. By itself, declining to endorse
presidential candidates is not enough to
move us very far up the trust scale, but it's a meaningful step in the right direction.
The Post's decision came just days after the Los Angeles Times faced a reader backlash
for a similar decision. The paper's own billionaire owner, biotech mogul Patrick Soon-Chiong,
blocked an endorsement of Harris from being published, suggesting it would contribute to
political division. Soon-Chiong said he offered the editorial board the option to provide an analysis of each
candidate's policies to give readers nonpartisan information side by side in lieu of an endorsement,
but the board chose to remain silent. Editorials editor Mario Garza and editorial board members
Robert Green and Karen Klein resigned in protest after the decision
was announced. Sun Qiyang's daughter, Nika Sun Qiyang, said the decision was made because of
the Biden administration's handling of the war in Gaza and Harris's ongoing support for Israel.
This is not a vote for Donald Trump. This is a refusal to endorse a candidate that is overseeing
a war on children, she wrote on X. I trust the editorial board's
judgment. For me, genocide is the line in the sand. Today, we're going to break down some of
the arguments from the right and the left about the newspaper's decisions, and then Isaac's take.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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All right, first up, let's start with what the left is saying. The left opposes the paper's decision, expressing alarm at their wealthy owners overruling their wishes of the staff.
Some argue it was inappropriate to make this decision so close to the election.
Others say the move is a disservice to the paper's readers.
In HuffPost, Michael Arsenault said,
No endorsement is absolutely an endorsement.
This is not about non-endorsements to signal independence and neutrality,
but rich business owners engaging in self-censorship to protect themselves
against a vengeful Trump in a second term, Arsenault wrote.
Editorial boards are supposed to be independent voices. If an owner doesn't want endorsements
on his or her paper, so be it. But to flip on decades of tradition at the last minute and
pretend it's about political neutrality belies the true motivating factors. To be clear, it is
the prerogative of the owner of a respective publication to allow or disallow an endorsement
for a political candidate. And I will not pretend that presidential endorsements are necessarily all that determinative
in a U.S. presidential election in 2024. They are a function of journalism. And if one is to be in
the business of journalism, newspaper owners should respect the practices of journalism,
Arsenault said. But this is exactly why I wish more politicians who value media would consider less
capital-centric ways of creating it in this country. We cannot leave our news disbursement
in the hands of the wealthy. In the Boston Globe, Mario Garza wrote, I quit after the LA Times owner
killed the endorsement of Kamala Harris. The editorial board, which is composed of veteran
journalists and editors who operate separately from the newsroom, had been making endorsements in every presidential race since 2008. There had
been no hint from the owner, Patrick Soon-Shiong, a biotech billionaire who bought the paper in 2018,
that we should change course this election season, Garza said. Readers expected it as well,
though not because it was a mystery who we would support. Endorsements aren't just slogans.
They are carefully researched and reasoned pieces that lay out a persuasive case for a candidate
based on facts and their records. I knew that not endorsing wasn't going to change the outcome of
the vote in California, where Harris has a healthy lead. What kept me up at night was the fear that
it might be misinterpreted in other parts of the country. Would voters in Nevada, Arizona,
or Pennsylvania wrongly conclude that Harris's hometown newspaper had such serious qualms about her after all these
years of sounding the alarm about Trump that it could not recommend her to voters, Garza wrote?
Many newspapers have opted to stop making presidential endorsements, usually in fear
of losing readers. That's fine. There's a case to be made that endorsements and editorial boards
are anachronisms. But making the change just days before the election isn't an honest move toward
neutrality. It is a statement in itself. In the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus called the
Post's decision the wrong choice at the worst possible time. I love the Washington Post,
deep in my bones. Last month marked my 40th year of proud work for the institution,
in the newsroom and in the opinion section.
I have never been more disappointed in the newspaper than I am today,
with the tragically flawed decision not to make an endorsement in the presidential race, Marcus said.
At a moment when the Post should have been stepping forward to sound the clarion call
about the multiple dangers that Donald Trump poses to the nation and the world, it has chosen instead to pull back. A vibrant newspaper can survive and
even flourish without making presidential endorsements. This is not the time to make
such a shift. It is the time to speak out as loudly and convincingly as possible, to make
the case that we made in 2016 and again in 2020, that Trump is dangerously unfit to hold the highest
office in the land, Marcus wrote. Withholding judgment does not serve our readers. It disrespects
them. And expressing our institutional bottom line on Trump would not undermine our independence
any more than our choices did in 1976, 1980, 1984, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, or 2020.
All right, that is it for what the left is saying, which brings us to what the right is saying.
The right says the media's reaction to the decisions illustrates why Americans have lost trust in the mainstream news. Some hope that these decisions are the first
in a process to restore the media's credibility. Others suggest the fallout from the decisions
will be amplified if Trump wins. In National Review, Jeffrey Blahar argued,
the reaction only proves why the Post was correct to make the decision it did.
The reactions to the Times kerfuffle were
muted, because, to be perfectly honest, nobody reads or cares about the Los Angeles Times.
But the news from the Post was greeted with a collective grand mal seizure from online media
lefties, Blahar wrote. In many ways, the reaction only proves why the Post was correct to make the
decision it did. Believe me, it's not about wanting to delude people into believing that
the Post editorial board isn't stocked top to bottom with Azure Blue Democrats.
It's rather about the fact that the Post's entire branding for the last eight years has been resistance, resistance, resistance, and not only has it led them to wade hip-deep into some of the most massively discrediting media disgraces over that span of time.
time. The Post is threadbare and repetitive these days and hasn't produced a quality of reporting in national journalism comparable to that of the New York Times or even the Wall
Street Journal for several years now. The rot is internal on a coverage level, not just an
ideological one, Blair wrote. I grew up with The Post and I loved it when it had the best sports
section in the nation, a style section I would read front to back, and an op-ed page full of
interesting and divergent voices.
I'd like to see that Washington Post return, but it never will on its current trajectory,
not until it shakes free from the madness of both openly embracing the crudest of activist politics and positions and also pretending to act as a sober-eyed tribune of the people.
In Fox News, Jonathan Turley praised the decision.
Over two decades ago, I wrote a column calling for newspapers to end the practice of all endorsements.
Yes, before all things seem to turn on how you feel about Donald Trump.
I have continued to push the press to abandon this pernicious practice.
When I first came out against political endorsements,
the media had not taken the plunge into advocacy journalism,
which is now strangling the life out of the industry, Turley wrote.
The result has been trust in the media plummeting to an all-time low.
Revenues and leadership are falling as outlets struggle to survive,
yet reporters are still refusing to reconsider the abandonment of neutrality and objectivity.
The decision not to endorse in this election could prove a critical moment for mainstream media
in turning the corner on the era of advocacy journalism.
While skeptical, I genuinely hope that Bezos has decided to reconsider the course of the Post. We need the Post and the rest of
the mainstream media. The media plays a critical role in our democracy as a neutral source of
information on government abuse and corruption. In Blaze Media, Christopher Bedford wrote,
The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times Civil Wars are just the beginning.
The brouhaha exposes a lot.
First, just how incredibly out of touch these people are.
And second, what's coming if Vice President Kamala Harris loses in eight days, Bedford said.
It's unlikely that anyone outside the newspaper staffs themselves
even noticed the papers hadn't made their endorsements
before they announced they would not be making any.
If the last eight years have exposed anything, though,
it's the American media's incredible propensity to make it about themselves.
If any of these people had learned a thing in the past eight years,
it should have been that it is not our role to tell people what to think.
Americans don't like it, and when we decide to ignore that
and tell them what to think anyway, they don't listen, Bedford wrote.
This story of the media's collapse, however, isn't over,
and last week's
episodes give us a good glimpse of what will come if the 45th president returns to office.
Even while owners and publishers are growing sick of their reporters and writers' unending tantrums,
the reporters and writers themselves are as committed as ever, and willing to leak on their
bosses, attack their publications, and resign for their cause. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take.
All right, that is it for it with the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take.
So first and foremost, I actually think Bezos is right about a few things. He is quite
obviously right that trust in the media has collapsed. He is right that presidential
endorsements often feed that distrust. And he is right that newspapers must both be accurate
and be believed to be accurate, a two-part goal that is difficult to achieve. I personally have never thought
newspaper endorsements were a great idea. When Tangle started, I made an explicit promise to
not endorse any candidate in any race. Obviously, our function in the media space is a little
different than the Washington Post, but the arguments that Bezos advances were some of my own.
The media shouldn't tell people what to do. Our role is to provide the
public with thoughtful analysis and reliable information. Not making endorsements isn't the
only way to build trust with readership, but I've witnessed firsthand with Tangle how it can help to
do so. Plus, at least for papers like the Post, many readers conflate the newsroom, a group of
journalists attempting to be impartial in their work, and the opinion section, a group of
pundits being explicitly asked to share their opinions. The opinion section endorsing candidates
often undermines trust in the newsroom. This is dangerous. At the same time, you can color me
skeptical about Bezos' stated reasoning. For starters, if he was against endorsements on
principle, why only say so now? Why not six months ago or four
years ago or 10 years ago when he first bought the paper? The timing raises a lot of questions
and is likely to result in a loss of trust among the paper's existing readership. Attributing the
timing to quote-unquote inadequate planning just is not sufficient. Bezos's business interests
certainly could have played a role in this decision.
The Washington Post is an expense on his balance sheet. It reportedly lost $100 million last year,
but his other companies, Amazon and Blue Origin, rake in billions of dollars in government contracts. When Trump was president, Amazon lost out on some of those contracts, which Bezos
reportedly believes was tied to the Washington Post coverage of Trump. Trump has regularly referred to the Amazon Washington Post, openly expressed his dislike
for Bezos, and has called for boycotting his companies and those of others who provide media
coverage critical of his politics. Bezos very obviously believes some of this animosity is
dangerous for his future. In 2019, Amazon sued the federal government for awarding a $10 billion cloud
computing contract to Microsoft, alleging that Amazon lost out on the contract in part because
of Bezos' ownership of the Washington Post. Under the next president, Bezos' company Blue Origin,
which has already been awarded a $3.4 billion contract to build a lunar lander for NASA,
will be fighting for another $5.6 billion of contracts for the
Pentagon. All the while, this election cycle, Trump has repeatedly promised to get revenge
on his enemies and opponents, and Bezos may simply sense his name is on the list.
If Bezos is reading the room and sensing that Trump has a real shot to win,
it doesn't seem far-fetched that he'd spike an endorsement of Harris in a rather futile,
if you ask me, effort to protect
his other business interests in 2025. Unfortunately for the Washington Post staff, many of their
readers have connected the same dots. More than 200,000 people have now reportedly canceled their
subscriptions. And I have to say, this is not a good way to punish Jeff Bezos. If you want to hurt
Bezos, canceling your Amazon subscription is a much
better way to do it. Remember, Bezos is already losing money on owning the Washington Post. These
subscription dollars support the Post's journalism and its reporters. A mass exodus will only justify
more cuts to the newsroom and will ultimately do nothing to apply pressure to Bezos or the
companies that support his empire. In a similar vein, the Los
Angeles Times' non-endorsement could be read as just as self-defeating. In this case, at least,
we have some evidence of the motivation, the war in Gaza. Patrick Soon-Shong's daughter made it
pretty clear what was motivating their decision, and I find it credible that she influenced the
decision given her history with the Times newsroom. Much like the uncommitted vote in
Michigan, while I can understand the motivations, I'm skeptical of the long-term vision here.
I actually don't know how much Vice President Kamala Harris can influence Israel right now
to force a ceasefire or alter the course of the war. But I do know that on the pro-Israel spectrum,
Trump is much closer to current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu than Harris is.
If the Los Angeles Times' owners are motivated to pursue a future where America exerts more Trump is much closer to current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu than Harris is.
If the Los Angeles Times' owners are motivated to pursue a future where America exerts more pressure on Israel, doing anything to move the needle in Trump's favor seems counterintuitive
to me. So, I'll end with two observations. First, it is stunning how much of our current
media environment is controlled by the wealthiest individuals in the world. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Patrick Soon-Shong, Rupert Murdoch, and Mark Zuckerberg, just to name
a few. Second, these are precisely the kinds of issues created by newspaper endorsements.
At the Washington Post, readers are trying to punish a billionaire owner for a decision he
made by canceling hundreds of thousands of subscriptions that will ultimately cost
reporters unaffiliated with the opinion section their jobs. At the Los Angeles Times, a billionaire owner is
potentially refusing to endorse a candidate because of her support for a U.S. ally, support
that her opponent appears to pledge with far more ferocity. Some papers even joined the fray and
apparently regretted it. USA Today made its first endorsement ever in 2020, but this year it's
sitting out. That's not to say endorsements ever in 2020, but this year it's sitting out.
That's not to say endorsements can't ever be good for business. Some papers, like The Guardian,
capitalized on the moment by recirculating their endorsement of Harris and emphasizing
their editorial independence, then watched the cash fall from the sky. Still, self-evidently,
this saga only buttresses my belief that making endorsements creates situations that can be bizarre and messy to navigate all while jeopardizing reader trust,
which, to me, is as good a reason as any to stay out of the fray.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Eric in Florida. Eric said, you keep saying election fraud doesn't happen.
What about the story out of Pennsylvania where thousands of fraudulent voter registration
applications were just caught? Okay, so first of all, I never say that election fraud doesn't
happen. In fact, I say the opposite. Election and voter fraud are
very real, and they need to be monitored. I also say that election fraud is rare, often caught,
and that the 2020 election was not marred by fraud that would have changed the outcome.
I always assess claims of fraud with an open mind precisely because fraud does happen,
but there have been far more misleading or false claims of fraud in the last
four years than actual fraud. For instance, the example you are talking about appears to be a
legitimate case of attempted fraud. I actually said so in my new election fraud thread on X.
In case you missed it, Pennsylvania officials announced they are investigating roughly 2,500
fraudulent voter registration applications in Lancaster County. While reviewing the applications,
election workers flagged inaccurate information, signatures that did not match the one they had
for the voter on file, and multiple forms that appeared to be completed by the same person with
the same handwriting. At least 60% of the forms investigated so far have been determined to be
fraudulent, and two other counties may have received fraudulent applications. As of this
writing, we do not know who conducted this alleged scheme.
Some people accused Democrats and others accused Republicans.
Lancaster, for whatever it's worth, is a red county,
but nothing has been released yet to indicate the organization or political party behind the plot.
So, as more information comes out, I'll continue to update my thread on X
and, of course, Tangle readers and listeners as well. All right, that is it for your questions answered. I'm going to send it back to
John for the rest of the pod, and I'll see you guys tomorrow.
Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under-the-radar story for today, folks.
A memo circulating among former President Donald Trump's advisors recommends that if Trump
wins the election, he should bypass traditional background checks by law enforcement officials
on his political appointees and immediately grant them security clearances after being sworn in.
Boris Epstein, one of Trump's top legal advisors, is spearheading the proposal,
which would use private sector investigators to vet appointees instead of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation. The Supreme Court has ruled that presidents have final
authority over sharing and restricting national security information, though it's not clear
whether Trump has seen the proposal. During Trump's first term, FBI background checks delayed
clearances for several Trump aides and advisors, including his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and the
former president reportedly views the agency's background check process with suspicion. The New York Times has this story, and there's a link in
today's episode description. All right, next up is our numbers section. The year the Los Angeles
Times was founded was 1881. The first year the Los Angeles Times endorsed a presidential candidate was 1884. That
was James Blaine. The number of presidential elections since 1884 that the Los Angeles Times
has not endorsed a presidential candidate is nine. The year the Washington Post was founded was 1877.
The first year the Washington Post endorsed a presidential candidate was 1976. That was Jimmy Carter.
The Washington Post's approximate circulation among paid subscribers as of last week is 2.5 million.
The approximate percentage of Washington Post subscribers that canceled their digital subscriptions between Friday and Monday is 8%.
The number of Washington Post opinion columnists who signed on to an op-ed in the paper calling its decision not to endorse a candidate in 2024 a mistake is 21.
The number of daily newspapers that have endorsed Kamala Harris in the 2024 election is 36.
The number of daily newspapers that have endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 election is 6.
And the number of daily newspapers that have endorsed a candidate for president in 2020, but will not in 2024, is five.
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For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Mullis signing off. Have a great day, y'all.
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Peace. who is also our social media manager. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75.
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