Tangle - PREVIEW: The Friday Edition - Five things I got wrong about Trump.

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

So today, I’d like to tackle five things I think I’ve gotten wrong about President Donald Trump’s administration through the first six months of his second term. Of course, the book isn’t clos...ed on all these stories, and I remain open to having my mind changed again in the future.Ad-free podcasts are here!Many listeners have been asking for an ad-free version of this podcast that they could subscribe to — and we finally launched it. You can go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by: Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Hunter Casperson, Kendall White, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and this is a special Friday edition. Today, I'm going to be talking about five things I got wrong about Donald Trump so far this term. So let me set the table this way. My favorite journalists, my favorite writers, my favorite thinkers, they all have a few key qualities. They admit when they're wrong, they're open to having their minds changed,
Starting point is 00:02:13 and they learn from mistakes. I also try to embody these qualities. And one way to maintain that kind of mental flexibility is to analyze my past writing ideas or predictions and then reflect on how accurate they actually were. Well, that exercise by itself has inherent value. If I don't actually own and explain some of the things I got wrong, then it has no value for you, the listener. To that end, I've made a habit of periodically looking back at my writing
Starting point is 00:02:41 and owning up to the things that I've got wrong. I do this in yearly roundups. I do it in occasional Friday additions. And in today's world where media trust is at an all time low, polarization is high, and no one seems willing to change their minds. This exercise is all the more valuable. So today I'd like to tackle five things. I think I've gotten wrong about president Donald Trump's administration through the
Starting point is 00:03:03 first six months of his second term. Of course, the book isn't closed on all these stories and I remain open to having my mind changed again in the future. All right, number one. I thought the repercussions of the Iran strikes would be a lot worse. When I saw the news that the U.S. had struck Iran's nuclear facilities, my alarm bells went off. In my take on the strikes, I laid out the possible ways that the attacks could go well, but my instinct was that the decision was incredibly risky, potentially disastrous, and would create a fresh Middle East engagement for the United States. I did not reach Tucker Carlson levels of hysteria, but I saw a near future where oil supply was disrupted, proxies across the Middle East were killing U.S. soldiers, Iran carried out
Starting point is 00:03:54 crippling cyber attacks on U.S. infrastructure, and retaliation from Iran and Israel led to a never-ending cycle of violence. I worried aloud about whether Trump could exercise restraint if or when Iran retaliated. I surmised that the nuclear negotiations with Iran were officially dead, and I thought we were entering a new protracted war in the Middle East. And perhaps most to the point, I was very skeptical
Starting point is 00:04:18 the strikes would do lasting damage to Iran's nuclear facilities, and I wondered how Israel or the US could achieve its goals without a ground invasion. Pretty much all of that was totally wrong. Instead, the strikes devastated Iran's nuclear facilities. While CNN published a report calling into question the severity of that damage, an authoritative International Atomic Energy Agency report indicated that the mission crippled Iran's
Starting point is 00:04:43 nuclear program and that its facilities would need months to become operational again, while the Pentagon assessed it would take years. Basically, the U.S. succeeded in setting back Iran's nuclear program. One could even say they destroyed it, even if Iran could one day rebuild it. Iran did respond, but meekly, with a warning that inflicted very little structural damage and did not harm a single American soldier Once those strikes were complete Trump not only exercised restraint. He embraced peace He immediately negotiated a ceasefire between Iran and Israel then became incensed when the terms of that ceasefire were violated
Starting point is 00:05:17 Drawing both nations to heal and creating a relative calm that has continued since Oil experts from Gulf states have not been choked off. There were no devastating cyber attacks. No U.S. soldiers died. There was no major escalation of any kind. None of Iran's friends joined the fray. Even Hezbollah sat things out. Iran may even come back to the nuclear negotiating table,
Starting point is 00:05:41 a sign it recognizes the weakness of the position it is in. In sum, Trump appears to have crushed Iran's capacity to pursue a nuclear weapon without sparking a war, dragging any US soldiers in, or suffering any real consequences of any kind. It is actually a version of the best-case scenario I floated. The only thing missing is some kind of peaceful end to the current regime in Iran, which was always a bit fanciful. Number two. I thought the deportation effort would be smaller and honestly less horrific. Throughout Trump's campaign and early presidency, I warned that his mass deportation effort was set
Starting point is 00:06:22 to become one of the most destabilizing parts of his presidency. My theory was simple. If ICE agents start snatching up random immigrants in the country illegally, citizens who object to Trump's immigration policies will start to fight back and violence will break out regularly. That has happened intermittently and seems to be getting worse. However, I also suspect that a lot of Trump's mass deportation effort would amount to a lot of hot air. I expected, as in his first term, he'd close down the border while making a big fuss about arresting gang members or a few violent criminals and then tout the success of his administration's
Starting point is 00:06:57 deportation program. I thought, at least up to this point, he would be focusing primarily on people with criminal records. Trump did briefly offer exceptions for farm workers in certain service industries, but apart from that, I couldn't have been more wrong. Trump's deportation effort has been far more authoritarian than I expected. He has been deporting people, even those without criminal records, to random countries or directly into foreign prisons where some could spend the rest of their lives. Masked federal agents are harassing citizens and non-citizens alike from Boston to Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:07:30 raiding workplaces, devastating communities, and tearing families apart, all behind a cloak of impunity. And while protesters have expressed outrage, most visibly in Los Angeles, the response has been much less confrontational than I thought it would. Indeed, a majority of Americans support deporting all immigrants here illegally, which seems to be informing a generally blasé attitude about what is acceptable from federal immigration agents. Immigration policy aside, I find all of this terrifying. As a society, we should never accept heavily armed law enforcement agents disguising themselves in masks and unmarked cars with the legal authority
Starting point is 00:08:07 to arrest, detain and deport people, while the government refuses to publicly charge its detainees. Watching federal officers and military fatigues and masks regularly arrest the wrong people, traipse through public parks and tanks, disappear U.S. citizens into federal court system, raid Home Depot parking lots with automatic weapons, detain elected officials, deport Afghan military translators,
Starting point is 00:08:29 trespass at public schools, and demand the public completely acquiesce to all of their demands is not just scary, it's shocking. Just imagine for a moment that you saw a group of plainclothes officers wearing masks, grabbing one of your neighbors and throwing them into the back of a van with tinted windows. What would you do? Supporters of Trump's immigration policies
Starting point is 00:08:49 have largely waved away concerns about these tactics, lacking the ability to imagine a future when law enforcement turns on them or their communities. Or alternatively, they've justified allowing mass agents to conduct these arrests and raids because of threats to ICE agents or doxxing. I find this position wholly unconvincing. Federal law enforcement agents are public servants
Starting point is 00:09:11 and identifying them publicly, even when they are trying to conceal their identity, is not what I would qualify as doxxing, a practice usually reserved for exposing details about someone who can reasonably expect privacy. Further, the threat to ICE agents is vastly overstated. Until this week, I could find a grand total of zero cases where an off-duty ICE agent
Starting point is 00:09:31 had been targeted with violence. Examples were solely reserved for instances where an ICE agent was confronted while on duty, often in scenarios where they were instigating the violence themselves or conducting crowd control. Unfortunately, the hardliners in the Trump administration are winning the day, and there's good reason to believe this is all going to get worse.
Starting point is 00:09:50 The big, beautiful bill just approved an astounding $170 billion in federal funding, making ICE the largest single federal law enforcement agency ever, bigger than many countries' entire militaries, at a time when illegal immigration is at an all-time low and spending and debt are astronomical. It's all pretty ludicrous and worse than I thought. Hey everybody, this is John, executive producer of YouTube and podcast content and co-host
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