Tangle - The abuse allegations against Rep. Max Miller.

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

Over the past week, Rep. Max Miller (R-OH) has faced growing calls to resign or drop his bid for reelection amid allegations of domestic abuse. Emily Moreno, Miller’s ex-wife and the daughter of Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH), accused Miller of verbally and physically abusing her and their two-year-old daughter; Miller denies the allegations. In recent days, Sen. Moreno has spoken out against Miller, saying the representative is unfit to serve in Congress.Ad-free podcasts are here!Get 20% off your first year of ad-free episodes, exclusive interviews, and deep dives with Tangle’s podcast membership!Audrey joins Suspension of the Rules.This week, Audrey fills in for Editor-at-Large Kmele Foster to talk with Ari and Isaac about progressive Democrats’ rise, Truth Social’s new offering, the biggest political scandals in modern history, and more. Check it out here.You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey: How do you view these allegations? Let us know.Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast written by: Audrey Moorehead and audio engineered and edited by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Bailey Saul, Audrey Moorehead, and Carina Pacheco. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of our take. This is editor Audrey Moorhead, and today I am unfortunately here to talk about abuse allegations against a politician. This time, we'll be covering the accusations against Republican Representative Max Miller of Ohio, what they mean for Israel. election candidacy and our politics. Then you'll hear a reflection on the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, 81 years later, followed by one of the stories we didn't cover this week. But the podcast is going to end with a nice pallet cleanser, a nice story about Corellian bear dogs in Nevada. But before we get into today's podcast, I do have to say that I am a special guest on this week's suspension of the rules

in the absence of editor at large Camille Foster. Managing editor Ari Weitzman, executive editor Isaac Saul and I discussed Abdul El-Sayed's primary victory in Michigan, the allegations against Max Miller, and the truth social API that has everyone talking. It is a great episode, if I do say so myself. So head over there to listen after you get through today's edition. I'll pass it off now to John, and I'll be back for my take. Thanks, Audrey, and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the Senate voted 51 to 44 to confirm Erica Schwartz as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Schwartz will become the agency's first Senate-confirmed director in approximately one year.

Number two, the Maryland legislature approved a ballot measure for the November elections that, if passed, would allow state Democrats to redraw congressional districts. Number three, the Senate Homeland Security Committee voted to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress for invoking the Fifth Amendment throughout a Senate hearing last week. Committee Chairman Rand Paul, the Republican from Kentucky, said he will refer the resolution to the Justice Department. Number four, federal aviation officials are reportedly investigating an air traffic safety incident on Tuesday, in which the Marine One helicopter carrying President Donald Trump may have flown too close to a commercial plane taking off from Reagan National Airport.

And number five, a federal judge ruled that permit requirements for short-barreled guns and suppressors were unconstitutional, finding that Congress had no basis to impose the requirements after it removed a prior $200 tax for a permit. We've been watching now these abuse allegations that have rocked the Capitol, this family drama that's spilled out into the open. It's threatening to upend a key house race. And in just the last hour or so, an Ohio Republican accused of abusing his ex-wife and daughter, is reiterating he is not going to drop out of the race. Of course, we're talking about Congressman Max Miller. Remember, his ex-wife, Emily Moreno, accuses him of things like holding a gun to her head, throwing her against the wall, throwing hot water at her. Police also investigated their two-year-old daughter's broken collarbone and bruises for possible abuse.

Miller denies all these allegations. He has not faced criminal charges. Over the past week, Representative Max Miller, the Republican from Ohio, has faced growing calls to resign or drop his bid for reelection amid allegations of domestic abuse. Emily Moreno, Miller's ex-wife and the daughter of Senator Bernie Moreno, the Republican from Ohio, accused Miller of verbally and physically abusing her and their two-year-old daughter. Miller denies the allegations. In recent days, Senator Marino has spoken out against Miller, saying the representative is unfit to serve in Congress.

For context, Miller and Emily Marino wed in 2022, shortly before Miller was elected to the House, and filed for divorce in 2024. In July 26, Mother Jones obtained legal documents detailing allegations that Miller used illegal drugs, verbally abused his wife, and acted violently toward multiple women. Moreno claimed that Miller had thrown hot water at her and held a gun to her head, among other aggressive acts. She also told police she suspected Miller may have been responsible for their daughter's broken collarbone. Child services determined the allegations were unsubstantiated, and a prosecutor declined to pursue them, citing a lack of evidence. Miller was previously accused of physical abuse by former White House press secretary Stephanie Grissom,

whom he dated while serving as a Trump administration staffer. On Sunday, Miller issued a statement denying the accusations against him, and released recordings of conversations between him and his ex-wife, which he claimed supported his version of events and showed Moreno to be mentally unwell. In the documents, Miller released to exonerate himself, a family coordinator described the abuse allegations as greatly exaggerated. The documents also included unredacted photos of Miller and Moreno's two-year-old daughter naked, which Miller's lawyer apologized for.

Miller has reaffirmed his intention to continue his re-election campaign. Separately, the congressman requested an ethics investigation into himself in an attempt to clear his name. On Tuesday, the House Ethics Committee said it will investigate. Following Miller's statement on Sunday, Senator Marino wrote on X, as a father and husband, I can tell you that the last two years have been pure hell for my wife, Bridget, our daughter Emily, me, and our entire family in the aftermath of Emily's divorce.

Max Miller needs serious psychological help. He is a danger to my daughter, and I hold my breath every minute he has custody of my granddaughter. President Donald Trump has remained publicly supportive of Miller, but reportedly expressed doubts about his candidacy in private. On Monday, the president said, I know Max, he's a good person. I mean, I always thought he was a very good person.

And I'm going to let the families figure that out. Today, we'll share views from the left and the right on the allegations against Miller, and then editor Audrey Moorhead will give her take. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right. First, let's start with some agreement. Writers across the political spectrum view the allegations against Miller as credible, and most think he should not seek re-election.

All right, and now for what the left is saying. Many on the left question whether Republicans will demand Miller step down. Some argue that Trump has caused the GOP to doubt women's allegations. Others contend Bernie Moreno should have spoken about his daughter sooner. In the Hill, Lori A. Watkins asked, how will Republicans handle Max Miller? I criticized Graham Platner because if character is going to mean anything in our politics, it has to mean something even when the person under scrutiny is on your own side. I still believe that, Watkins wrote.

On Sunday, Morano said publicly that his former son-in-law should not serve in Congress. That is not a Democratic strategist's opinion. That is a sitting Republican United States Senator telling voters that a member of his own party in his own state is not fit for the office he holds because of what the man allegedly did to the senator's own daughter and granddaughter. The allegations have been public for months. The pattern behind them goes back two decades. And still, Miller stayed in the race with the quiet cover of a party that spent the summer telling Democrats

exactly how seriously characters should be taken, Watkins said. Here is what I would say directly to the Republican Party. You have spent years telling the country that you are the party that protects women and children, the party of family values, the party that will not look away from abuse. I believe many of you mean it, so mean it now, even when it costs you something.

In the Atlantic, Ashley Parker said, Republicans have been slow to call for an Ohio congressman to end his re-election campaign. Once upon a time, it was practically de minimis for either political party to disavow a candidate facing allegations of domestic violence. But now is not that time, which might help explain why Republicans have been reluctant to say

that an alleged domestic abuser, especially one facing allegations from two women, is probably a poor choice to represent their party this November, Parker wrote. I'm referring, of course, to Miller, whom Emily Moreno has accused of scalding her with hot water, holding a gun to her head, and throwing her against a wall, all allegations he has denied. But this is now a party whose leader has been accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women.

Perhaps only in President Trump's Republican Party does believing all women, or even some women, some of the time, become politically fraught, Parker said. I am not unsympathetic to Bernie Moreno. I am the stepmom in a blended family, and I understand a key tenet of Divorce 101, especially when there are kids, is to never speak ill of anyone involved. Moreno seemed to be trying to abide by that ideal. In Slate, Jill Philopovic described Senator Bernie Moreno's too late attempt to stand up for his daughter. For weeks now, journalists, Democrats, and plenty of American voters

have been pushing powerful Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno to say something, anything, in defense of his daughter and granddaughter. For weeks, Bernie Moreno stayed silent, even as Miller went on a crusade of character assassination against Emily Marino, saying she was mentally ill with untreated bipolar disorder, Philipovic wrote.

It's good that Moreno has finally come to the defense of his own daughter and granddaughter after weeks of silence and dithering. But it's reasonable to ask, what took him so long? And given that the deadline for Miller to pull out of the races Wednesday, where are all the other Republicans, especially those who called on Democrats to force main Senate candidate Graham Platner to resign in demanding that Miller step aside, Philipovic asked. Traditionalist conservatives, those who push a nuclear family model with a male lead of household and a female care for home and children, make women a clear pledge.

acquiesce to your husband's authority, and you will be protected and provided for. Your children will be as well. The Miller-Marino saga is a textbook example of how this promise of patriarchal protection is a myth. All right, that is it for what the left is saying, which brings us to what the right is saying. Many on the right say Republicans must disavow Miller. Some criticize Miller's attempts to defend himself in the media. Others note the political implications of Miller's staying in the race. In the New York Post, Bethany Mandel argued, Republicans must draw a line.

Rumors have reverberated on Capitol Hill for years that domestic violence allegations against a two-term Ohio Republican would soon explode. Now, they've hit the fan in the ugliest imaginable way, and Republicans must choose between principles and party loyalties, Mandel wrote. In Sunday's video statement, Miller tried to brush off his ex-wife's claims by saying that she offered to cook him dinner just days after one alleged physical altercation. Anyone familiar with domestic violence recognized that as a tell. It's an unfortunate reality that victims often try to placate and abuse. as a means of diffusing tensions. Republicans know and have known that Miller is problematic at best. Now they're faced with the same calculation Democrats were forced to make just weeks ago when their hopes for control of the Senate hung in the balance of their moral computations,

Bandel said. A political party cannot credibly ask Americans to take its value seriously if it refuses to uphold those values when doing so is inconvenient. Republicans now have a chance to show that family values describes a standard they're willing to enforce, not merely a standard. a slogan they're willing to campaign on. In the bulwark, Andrew Eger wrote, things are quickly going from terrible to unsustainable for Max Miller. The congressman, who has long-faced serious, troubling allegations of domestic abuse, became a national spectacle this week

after he tried to refute the allegations in a bizarre live stream, Edgar said. Incomprehensibly, he decided to take another bite of the apple yesterday afternoon, going on CNN for a lengthy interview with Jake Tapper. It couldn't have gone worse. Miller was utterly unconvincing in his denials, strange and off-putting in his tone and approach, and seemed unable to speak in complete sentences, stringing together semi-related fragments of talking points at random. Any half-same person who found himself in this situation would go straight off the air and into monastic

life or the witness protection program. Miller, on the other hand, says he's determined to stay in the race. And the only people who could perhaps change his mind, House Speaker Mike Johnson and President Donald Trump seem determined not to force the issue, Eggeroon. The trajectory of the next few months thus seems basically set. He will run and lose, and that will be the end of it, including the House Ethics Committee investigation. These obscene humiliations will last a few more months at most.

The stain on Trump and Johnson, however, will remain. In PJ Media, Scott Pinsker said that the Republican Party should swap Miller with someone else. Some very nasty allegations of spousal abuse and breaking his daughter's collarbone were made. Miller vehemently denies all accusations of wrongdoing. What's muddying the political waters is where the allegations originated. The ex-wife who accused Miller of abuse is the daughter of Senator Mernie Moreno, a maga favorite. Unsurprisingly, Senator Moreno is on his daughter's side, Pinsker wrote. Had his accuser been a left-wing activist, it would have been easier for Miller to dismiss it as a political smear. Yet he still played that card.

This is high-stakes big league politics, with control of the House coming down to just a handful of districts. Destroying Miller's career raises the question of quibono. Be naive us to deny the possibility. But it's also true that this is the second pro-Trump MAGA member who's accused Miller of physical abuse, Pinsker said. Is it possible that Representative Miller was wrongfully accused not once but twice? You betcha. But at this point, that's an awful lot of smoke. Miller is also a junior player in D.C. He's not irreplaceable. and given the nastiness of the allegations as well as the quantity, it's in the best interest of the Republican Party to swap Miller with someone else.

All right, let's head over to Audrey for her take. Thanks, John. This is editor Audrey Moorhead, and I'm back for my take. It is hard to really put into words just how horrific all this is. Just last month, you heard me talk about the sexual assault allegations that ultimately sunk Maine Democrat Graham Platner's Senate campaign. While Platner's scandals were reaching a crescendo, the Tangle team was also watching the Max Miller story build across the aisle. In May, the Daily Mail published photos of Emily Moreno's alleged injuries. Further updates came in a slow drip until Mother Jones's comprehensive reporting on Moreno's allegations against Miller in mid-July.

But even then, media coverage of Miller has been nowhere near as ubiquitous as coverage of Platner was. I remember feeling indignation as the stories slowly came out. Why weren't people talking about this? Why wasn't anyone taking this seriously? I mean, this was a senator's daughter filing for a restraining order against a sitting congressman, accusing him of slamming her into walls and pouring steaming water on her, fearing that he had broken their toddler daughter's collarbone. Where was the coverage?

We wanted to cover this topic as our main story on Tuesday, but we couldn't even find sufficient commentary on the story to make it the main topic until yesterday. Stepping back, I can see why the situations are a little bit different. For one thing, Miller's situation is quite a bit more complicated. Platner's accusers faced great personal risk in speaking up, but they were no longer attached to Platner directly. Emily Moreno, however, is permanently linked to Miller through their daughter, and she has to consider what's best for their child

as she navigates her legal battles with a national political figure. Graham Platner's story got so much coverage because his accusers went directly to the media, but the Moreno family has not, saying they wanted to keep their story out of the public eye for as long as possible. Even now, Emily Moreno hasn't spoken to the media herself, instead releasing statements through her spokesperson and legal team, and most of the allegations have only come out through public records of their legal proceedings.

For his part, Emily Moreno's father, Senator Bernie Moreno, affirmed their story when he broke his silence on Sunday, saying, quote, If there are any basic standards of character required to hold elected office, Max Miller fails them. In his subsequent interview, Moreno said his daughter had asked him to keep things private to lower the temperature because of Miller's volatility. Sources close to the Moreno's confirmed the story to the Atlantic's Ashley Parker.

If that is indeed the case, I don't fault Emily Moreno for her silence, and I have a hard time faulting Senator Moreno for his. That includes the moment when he told reporters he didn't know if Miller should continue running for Congress, as his daughter's abuse allegations went public. At first, I thought Bernie Moreno's silence was cowardly. But now that he has spoken up, I really think he was trying to do right by his daughter and granddaughter until his hand was forced,

and I'm even somewhat ashamed that I didn't give him that benefit of the doubt to begin with. With all that said, the context only explains why none of the Morenoes have yet sat down for a full media interview. It does not explain why it's taken so long for the story to gain traction among the commentariat, and that slowness I'm much more cynical about.

I don't want to rank levels of trauma, but the accusations against Miller demand every bit as much scrutiny as the ones against Platner. They've also been building up publicly for much longer, as outlets began reporting on Moreno filing for a restraining order at the end of July. Why did public figures take so long to comment directly on the allegations in Miller's house race? Unfortunately, I think they've been silent because the Miller allegations just weren't as salacious. Platner was a charismatic rising star, gunning for a high-profile Senate seat.

Miller has, as far as I can tell, been a largely milk-toast maga representative from a usually safe Republican district. Disgusting as it may be to say, it makes sense to me. that pundits are more interested in sifting through the dirt on Platner. But now that the Miller allegations are finally being discussed publicly, they're subject to all sorts of scrutiny, and they should be. Scrutiny is a vital part of public adjudication of claims like this against political figures. I'm perversely grateful for figures like Michael Tracy, who seem to never believe claims of abuse and impropriety

because they provide a good measuring stick to determine the veracity of these allegations. And as Tracy notes, some of the evidence points to a more complicated situation than just Max Miller is a bad guy. Family psychologist Deborah Carricky did say in court that she thought the abuse allegations were exaggerated, though she also confirmed Emily Moreno's story about hot water. Emily Moreno did swear that she had never seen definitive evidence that Miller had harmed their daughter,

though this statement predated the collarbone incident. An investigations into Miller have never resulted in him losing custody of his daughter. Indeed, child services said the allegations he abused his daughter were unsubstantiated, and Emily Moreno never formally brought charges. Miller himself has been trying to fight the allegations against him on social media and on the broadcast media circuit. Miller claims the hot water incident was just play. He also said that in the time after the incident, Moreno offered to cook dinner for him and invited him to playgrounds to spend time with their daughter.

He denied that his daughter told Moreno, Daddy Kill You, and told CNN's Jake Tapper that their daughter was scared to go to her mother's house. Although, to Tapper's credit, live on the air, he asked how Miller could claim his daughter was too young to make the statement about her dad, but old enough to make the statement about her mom. And finally, Miller asked for a House Ethics Committee investigation into the claims against him to prove his innocence. Tracy and Miller can build a strong argument that the congressman isn't necessarily a significant threat to his ex-wife and child, but they can't sufficiently disprove that Max Miller is abusive either. Domestic abuse experts and survivors will tell you that

abuse doesn't always look like a deadly threat. It can come in the form of volatility or fear, of occasional violence, followed by attempts to obfuscate and deny and paper over with love. Responses to abuse, too, can range wildly, from pretending nothing's wrong to reconciliation attempts for the sake of the children caught in the middle. Most of all, Miller's own history and his conduct throughout this situation have only indicted his character further. Former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham has accused Miller of abuse during their relationship in the first Trump administration, and filed for a restraining order. An unnamed high school girlfriend claims Miller pushed her out of a door and downstairs during their relationship.

Miller has a history of drunk and disorderly behavior. Meanwhile, in interview after interview, he appears volatile and defensive. When interviewers push back on his claims, like Jake Tapper did, Miller slips and slides, going from defending himself to levying counterclaims against his ex-wife to invoking due process rights. I don't deny that he has a right to due process in the courts, but he should know that public scrutiny of a political figure is different. The courts may decide that he should keep partial custody over his daughter, but voters still have a right to decide whether a man accused of this sort of personal conduct by multiple women is really fit to serve in one of the highest offices in the country. All of this, then, leaves me with just one more consideration,

how Miller and Republicans will respond to these abuse allegations. So far, I have caused for despondency, as a Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson has indicated that he won't intervene. Senator Moreno, said Miller was unfit to serve in Congress, but most congressional Republicans aren't making strong statements on the matter, and President Trump appears content to stay on the sidelines too. Miller himself has refused to back down. And if it weren't so horrible, I'd find it laughably fitting

that he did so by invoking President Trump's electoral victory through a storm of scandal in 2016. I think Miller is banking on something that we all fear to be true. Character matters less and less to certain voters. Privately, at least, Republicans do seem worried about Miller's candidacy. President Trump reportedly called Miller to express doubts about the upcoming election. Prominent pollsters also seem to think that the allegations will hurt Miller, as many of them have downgraded the seat from solid R to likely R or even lean R as more news has come out.

And maybe, as Senator Moreno takes a public stand, the House Ethics Committee begins its investigation, and Miller himself continues digging holes in his public appearances. Republicans will see reason to abandon him and push Miller out, as Democrats eventually did with Platner. I admit I'm not very confident in the GOP. But if Republican leadership won't draw the line, I hope Ohio voters will. That's it for my take, so I'll pass it back to John for the rest of the podcast.

Thanks so much for listening. We'll be right back after this quick break. Thanks, Audrey. On this day in history, months after Germany surrendered to ally forces, fighting between the United States and Japan dragged on in the Second World War Pacific Theater, the toll was high. After Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in December 1941, roughly 416,000 American soldiers and 2.1 million Japanese would die in the war,

with hundreds of thousands more wounded on both sides. At the Potsdam Conference in the summer of 1945, Allied heads of state called for Japan's unconditional surrender, issuing a terse warning of prompt and utter destruction if the country failed to do so. Japan refused. On August 6th, the Annola Gay B-29 Superfortress bomber dropped an atomic bomb, christened Little Boy, on the Japanese city of Hiroshima, in the first use of a nuclear weapon in active combat. As many as 80,000 people died instantly, or within the first

24 hours of the blast, and the death toll rose to about 140,000 by the end of 1945. The city's population was roughly 300,000 people at the time of the attack. Three days later, on August 9th, the United States used a nuclear weapon for the second time, when the B-29 box scar dropped Fat Man, an atomic bomb with a yield of 21 kilotons, six more than little boy, on Nagasaki, population 263,000. Japan surrendered on August 15th. By the end of 1945, the death toll in Nagasaki had reached about 70,000. In the years to come, thousands more would suffer and die from radiation exposure. A nuclear weapon has not been used in combat since. Debates on the merits, ethics, and legality of the bombings continue to present day. The bombings were undeniably debilings. The bombings were undeniably

devastating man-made humanitarian disasters, and many historians consider their usage to mark the beginning of the Cold War. Historians also credit the atomic bomb as a key contributor to the long peace and weight's usage against the lives that could have been lost through protracted conventional warfare. Today, museums and memorials stand in Hiroshima and Nagasaki for visitors to learn about and reflect on the bombings and fallout, carrying an ongoing warning against future nuclear warfare. And now for the road not taken. Throughout the week, we considered covering Todd Blanche's Attorney General nomination as our main topic. The story evolved as the week went on. Blanche's status was uncertain coming out of the weekend,

but he appeared back on track after striking a deal with Republican Senate holdouts and advancing through committee. We decided to hold on coverage to see how his nomination fares in the full Senate. With Senator Susan Collins saying she'll vote no and Senator Mitch McConnell still unable to return to work, Blanche's status is again uncertain. We're planning to dedicate a full addition to the story when the confirmation. vote is held. And last but not least, R. Have a nice day story.

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