Tangle - The Fetterman-Oz debate.

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

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It's the first cell-based flu vaccine authorized in Canada for ages 6 months and older, and it may be available for free in your province. Side effects and allergic reactions can occur, and 100% protection is not guaranteed. Learn more at flucellvax.ca. From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, the place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking without all that hysterical nonsense you find everywhere else. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we are going to be talking about the John Fetterman and Mehmet Oz debate that took place on Tuesday night in Pennsylvania. It's the Pennsylvania Senate debate. There are a lot of reasons why we're covering this, and I will break

them down in a moment. Before we jump in today, a quick heads up that tomorrow I'm doing something a little unusual in the Friday edition newsletter. I'm going to be writing about Kanye West, or I guess I should say the artist formerly known as Kanye West. Yay! He's been in the news recently, as many of you probably know, for some kind of unsavory comments about my people, the Jews. But he's also, you know, he's a political actor, I think, in some ways. He is involved in politics. He is influential. He's a cultural icon, obviously.

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It's one of the only pieces of content we pay while in Tangle. I know many of you are podcast listeners. I know many of you also want Friday editions to be turned into podcasts. Yes, that is something we were thinking about doing down the road. But for now, you still need to subscribe to receive them. So please go to readtangle.com slash membership and do that. All right, that's it for our announcement. And we'll start off with First up, a jury found Daryl Brooks guilty of killing six people and injuring 60 others after he drove his SUV into a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin last November. Number two, former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows was ordered to testify before the Atlanta special grand jury investigating election interference in 2020. Number three, Russian forces carried out nuclear drills yesterday,

which they say were previously scheduled. Meanwhile, Putin's top diplomat in the United Kingdom insisted in an interview that the use of nuclear weapons was not on the table. Number four, three men accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer were convicted on all charges on Wednesday. Number five, the U.S. economy grew at a 2.6% annualized rate in Q3, surpassing expectations of 2.3% and ending consecutive quarters of negative growth. All right, the countdown to the midterms is on and all eyes are on Pennsylvania as candidates for one of the state's U.S. Senate seats faced off in their first and only debate last night. And with Fetterman, because he suffered that stroke about five months ago, everyone was tuning in to see if he was going to be able to handle himself properly. The lingering effects of Fetterman's stroke five

months ago caused him to struggle throughout the night while Oz worked hard to distinguish himself from Republican efforts to pass a national abortion ban. The painful to watch reviews last night seemed oddly disconnected to this country's own experience with illness in elected office, seemed oddly disconnected to this country's own experience with illness in elected office, including the experience of two members of the United States Senate who had strokes this year. In September, we covered the Pennsylvania Senate race. We're giving this debate some additional coverage for a few reasons. First, many pollsters believe the Pennsylvania Senate race could determine control of the Senate. Second, it's an open seat and a toss-up in polls, which makes the race's dynamics unique. Finally, Pennsylvania is one of the most important swing states in presidential elections,

so the result of this contest could not only mirror results nationally in the midterms, but perhaps even foreshadow 2024. This was one of the most anticipated and widely watched debates of the 2022 midterms for other reasons, too. Fetterman, the Democrat, suffered a stroke in May, just before the primaries. His camp says he is recovering quickly but still experiencing auditory processing issues because of the stroke, which is a common occurrence in such patients. Specialists in stroke recovery say the condition is not indicative of his ability to understand or process information, but more akin to difficulty in hearing. It also manifests itself in speaking as he sometimes struggles to put words together or mixes up

conjugations. Still, the campaign has been cagey about his health. In early June, they revealed that he had a defibrillator installed for a previously undisclosed diagnosis of cardiomyopathy. They had initially claimed it was surgery for atrial fibrillation. Fetterman's team has declined to release his full health records or brain scans since the stroke, but on October 15th, his doctor, Clifford Chen, penned a letter noting that his blood pressure, heart rate, vitals, cholesterol, and liver function were all normal. Dr. Chen also said Fetterman had no cognitive impairment, coordination difficulties, or strength issues, but did acknowledge his auditory processing problems. Over the last month, Fetterman's public appearances have become more common, including a sit-down interview he gave to NBC News reporter Dasha Burns.

In her reporting, Burns noted that Fetterman appeared to struggle to understand her in small talk they had before going on camera, a comment that grew cries of ableism and led media critics to excoriate her for leaving out the context of his condition. In that interview, Fetterman used closed captioning in his discussion with Burns, reading off a screen as they spoke. He used the same accommodations during the debate on Monday night. Throughout the debate, his answers were briefly delayed as he read the closed captioning, and he repeatedly misspoke or struggled to articulate responses, including on a question about his change of position on fracking. Before the debate, his campaign sought to lower expectations, noting in a memo they released publicly that Oz, a longtime TV celebrity, had a huge built-in

advantage in public speaking and that debates were not Fetterman's best medium, even before the stroke. With the intrigue surrounding Fetterman's health swirling and the polls showing the race tightening, the candidates debated abortion rights, crime, fracking, inflation, and other key issues in the midterms so far. Today, we're going to take a look at some reactions from the right and the left, and then my tape. Today, we're going to take a look at some reactions from the right and the left, and then my tape. First up, we'll start with what the right is saying. Money on the right said the debate made it clear Fetterman wasn't fit for office. Some even suggested his answers on the issues are proof Democrats have gone astray.

Others expressed sadness and frustration that Fetterman is still in the race. The Wall Street Journal editorial board said commentary is mostly about Fetterman's health, but that shouldn't be the sole focus. For our money, the most telling moment was Mr. Fetterman's response to a question about his previous opposition to fracking for natural gas. I've always supported fracking, Mr. Fetterman said when pressed by a moderator. He later added that I do support fracking and I don't, I don't, I support fracking and I stand, I do support fracking. His stumbles over his real position is understandable because his pro-fracking conversion, if that's what it is, is recent. I don't support fracking at all and I never have, Mr. Fetterman told a YouTube channel in 2018. The point isn't about catching a politician in a flip-flop. The Fetterman

contradiction shows how Democrats are in trouble because they nominated too many candidates whose views on crime, immigration, climate, and the economy are all but impossible to defend in competitive races this year. The left turn didn't matter in 2018 as voters came out to put a check on Mr. Trump's chaotic governance. It mattered more in 2020, especially after the Summer of Love riots following George Floyd's murder. To fund the police cost the party House seats, the board said. But Mr. Trump was still the main election issue, and Democrats played down their left turn by nominating the reassuring Joe Biden, who promised to work with Republicans and unite

the country. Democrats have tried mightily to drag Mr. Trump back into the 2022 campaign, and Mr. Trump is often obliged by meddling in GOP primaries on behalf of weak candidates. But he isn't on any ballot next month. Voters have thus had the chance to focus on the record of the Biden Democrats in office and the policy views of Democratic challengers. In the New York Post, John Poderitz said it was an act of personal and political malpractice to keep Fetterman in this race. I've never seen anything like the Pennsylvania Senate debate between John Fetterman and Memedaz on Tuesday night, and I hope to never have to see anything like it ever again. It was horrible, Poderic said. The stroke that Fetterman himself said knocked him down at the

debate's outset has impaired him, full stop. Don't believe anyone who even tries to tell you different, and you should probably not trust any such person till you know whether you need an umbrella because you don't know whether it's raining. Seeing Fetterman struggle to answer simple questions and form simple sentences was nothing less than agony, he said. There's no sense in even trying to characterize how he did in expressing himself on issues or how Mehmet Oz did talking about matters ranging from abortion to fracking to social security. Only one thing mattered, and that was watching Fetterman try to make a showing of himself despite his painful impairment. I don't want to quote what he said or make specific note of his speech patterns or answers because it would be unnecessarily cruel.

Could Fetterman improve? Yes. Will he improve? We do not know. During the debate, he refused to say whether he would release actual medical records rather than a clearly ginned-up letter from a doctor who is one of his donors. In Broad and Liberty, a Philadelphia-based news outlet, Christine Flowers said the debate was cruelty in real time. Fetterman performed so poorly even he could not do a rhetorical limbo under a bar set unfairly low for him, she said. He stammered. He gazed vacantly into the distance, collecting thoughts that would not come. He repeated platitudes devoid of detail about his concern for the working man. He contradicted himself, Fetterman who opposes fracking against Fetterman who supports it.

He tried to harness the power of the aggrieved feminist with his insistence that he'd protect the right to choose, and abortion. He never mentioned the privilege of bearing a child. He floundered on how he'd bring down tuition costs, refused to even answer a question about releasing his medical records, and kept attacking his opponent Mehmet Oz for bad commercials. And I watched and at first became elated at how poorly he'd done. But then I stopped. The political became the personal, Flowers said. This was a sick man, and I thought of his ambitious wife pushing him onward despite his infirmity. I thought of the doctors who were Democratic donors and prostituted their judgment for some political advantage. I thought of campaign operatives desperate to hide what could not

be hidden forever, hoping to beat the electoral clock. I thought of the Fetterman children, deprived of a father at a time when they needed him most, and he them. And I cried. I hate everything Fetterman represents. I hate the people who love him. They are an anathema and toxic. And yet I cried for a man, not a movement. Politics is cruel. Tonight showed that in technicolor terms. John Fetterman must go home. He deserves better. So do we. All right, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying. Many on the left praise Fetterman for braving the debate stage, even if they worry about how his performance will impact the race. Some insist that we have no reason to believe he is unfit for

office, and with the proper accommodations, he could serve effectively as a senator. Others criticize Oz for his stances on issues like abortion and social security. others criticize Oz for his stances on issues like abortion and social security. In MSNBC, Zeeshan Aleem said the core difference pundits will discuss is their communication style, but it shouldn't be the focus. Oz is a seasoned television host who knows how to speak with polish in front of a camera, Aleem said. Fetterman has an I'm-just-a-normal-dude-in-a-bar conversational style of speech, which endears him to much of the public but also doesn't always lend itself to snappy debate banter. On top of that, it was evident that Fetterman's challenges with processing spoken language, a result of a stroke he suffered in May, made it hard for him at times to select and articulate words as he made his case for why

he should be Pennsylvania's next U.S. Senator. While medical experts say there is no reason to doubt Fetterman's cognitive capacity, and while his overall points were intelligible, it was at times genuinely difficult to understand some of his sentences. Asked about foreign policy threats, Fetterman correctly identified China as having a potentially dangerous rivalry with the U.S., while Oz spread bizarre disinformation about the Iran nuclear deal. On immigration, Fetterman called for compassionate immigration reform and decried cruel stunts like sending asylum-seeking refugees in buses to Martha's Vineyard. Oz, meanwhile, decided that the humanitarian crisis surrounding immigration could be mitigated only by stricter enforcement of immigration laws. While Fetterman calls for federal minimum wage to be raised to $15 an hour on the basis that workers deserve to have living

wages, Oz offered up a confusing word salad about how the market was driving up the wage to be raised to $15 an hour on the basis that workers deserve to have living wages, Oz offered up a confusing word salad about how the market was driving up the wage to $15 an hour anyway. To cap it all off, Oz, unsurprisingly, said he would support Donald Trump for the presidency again if he won the Republican nomination. It was the season of chaos and all through the house, not one person was stressing. Holla differently this year with DoorDash. Don't want to holla do the most? Holla don't. More festive, less frantic. Get deals for every occasion with DoorDash. Based on Charles Yu's award-winning book, Interior Chinatown follows the story of Willis Wu,

a background character trapped in a police procedural who dreams about a world beyond Chinatown. When he inadvertently becomes a witness to a crime, Willis begins to unravel a criminal web, his family's buried history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown is streaming November 19th, only on Disney+. In CNN, Jill Filipovich said we should have tremendous admiration for Fetterman. He's recovering from a stroke. He knows he is not as coherent and articulate as he was this time last year, and because he is not in fact cognitively impaired, he is acutely aware of how much his mouth is not cooperating with his brain, Filipovich said. He was asked to compete

in an impossible arena, with his disabilities being among the worst kind for live television and going toe-to-toe on live television with an opponent who is a professional television personality. And still, he showed up. That's a kind of courage, character, and gumption we rarely see from practiced politicians with teams of careful advisors. It's the kind of underdog story Americans love, at least when it's in the movies. When asked about whether he would support a national abortion ban, Oz's answer was troubling. Abortion rights, he said, should not be decided by the federal government,

but should rather be a matter decided by a woman and her doctor and local political leaders who can collectively weigh in so that states, not women, can decide for themselves whether abortion should be criminalized. In other words, abortion is not just a woman's right, it's an open political question. On the merits, I would bet that Fetterman's positions are more in line with what Pennsylvania voters want, and Pennsylvania voters should understand in no uncertain terms that Nas' victory in a Republican majority in the Senate likely means a Republican attempt at a national abortion ban, Republican-led whittling away at Social Security,

and further attacks on American democracy. The Philadelphia Inquirer editorial board said Pennsylvanians should have a great deal of respect for Fetterman. Fetterman showed courage in taking the debate stage in Harrisburg. Many Americans, whether from lack of experience or understanding, are unaccustomed to or uncomfortable with special accommodation for those with disabilities, the board said. If elected to the U.S. Senate, Fetterman could become a role model in helping the nation better understand that a person's struggles can also be a source of strength. Fetterman expects to gradually improve. He released a letter from his doctor that said, if elected, he would be able to serve in the Senate without problems. Fetterman has addressed

his health somewhat, but he would be better served by being more open and honest about his challenges and prognosis. In the meantime, his Republican opponent, Mehmet Oz, the television doctor from New Jersey, could stand to improve his bedside manner. At one point during the back-and-forth on education, Oz offered this cheap shot. Obviously, I wasn't clear enough for you to understand this. Earlier, Oz's communications advisor, Rachel Tripp, said if Fetterman had ever eaten a vegetable in his life, then maybe he wouldn't have had a major stroke. These statements are callous attacks more befitting of a playground bully than a candidate for U.S. Senate, the board wrote. Oz, who used to hold more liberal positions on guns and abortion, appears to be adapting to the cruelty campaign that sadly has become

a hallmark of many members of his party. There may be no cure for that. Alright, that is it for the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take. Like many others, I thought the debate was difficult to watch. The Democratic candidate who was on stage Tuesday night was very clearly different from the one Pennsylvania voters had seen in the months and years leading up to May's primary. While dozens of news outlets trotted out quotes from medical doctors about his remarkable recovery, it's clear he is still struggling, quite publicly, with the new post-stroke reality. And there is a cruelness in watching him try to push through that struggle in front of an audience of millions, one that is hard to shake. I feel for him.

But let's get to the heart of the issue. Fetterman's trouble communicating should not be conflated with a certain unfitness for the job. When you see a person who is having trouble speaking in the way Fetterman is, it might be hard to imagine that they totally grasp what is happening around them. I'm not a neurologist or a speech pathologist or an expert on stroke victims, so I will defer to the people who are. And they have made it quite clear that if Fetterman is suffering only from auditory processing issues, that is not indicative of some depleted cognitive function, i.e. his ability to problem-solve, think through issues, understand his surroundings, etc.

That distinction is important for a potential U.S.e. his ability to problem-solve, think through issues, understand his surroundings, etc. That distinction is important for a potential U.S. senator. If the campaign is being honest about his health issues, what's happening to Fetterman is more akin to a serious stutter or hearing problems than some kind of intellectual or cognitive disability that would be deleterious for his work. But the operative word here is if. Since his health problems started, Fetterman's team has been somewhere between cagey and wholly dishonest. As of this writing, the closest thing to a clean

bill of health for Fetterman that voters have is a letter signed by a doctor who donated to his campaign. In the debate on Tuesday, he once again refused to commit to releasing his health records. So when we discuss what we are seeing with Fetterman's health, we are working on the assumption that his quote-unquote auditory processing issues are, in fact, the only real lingering health issue related to his stroke that he's now facing. Of course, the Senate still likes to think of itself as the world's greatest deliberative body. A large part of the job is debate, discussion, hearings, and addresses on the Senate floor. He'll have to cajole senators for support behind closed doors and work to rally votes on legislation he supports.

On Tuesday, Fetterman had all the accommodations he'd seemingly get in the Senate, and he was still, at times, unintelligible. That is a problem. But it may not be a disqualifying one. His condition could improve. Congress already counts several stroke victims and people with disabilities as members. And if Fetterman needs closed captioning or a few extra seconds to ask questions and converse in a Senate hearing or on the floor, that obviously isn't something that should disqualify him from being in office.

The worst news for Fetterman is that he was standing across from a television pro. Oz knows how to command a room and garner attention on TV. He looked mostly smooth on stage, and one imagines a pre-stroke Fetterman may have called him out on one of the several lies or misleading comments he made during the debate. Instead, the toughest moment for Oz came when he implied political leaders should have a role in a woman's decision on abortion, something that is not going to play well with moderates in Pennsylvania. Fetterman's worst moment came on fracking, an issue where he's flip-flopped and his position was no clearer after the debate. fracking, an issue where he's flip-flopped and his position was no clearer after the debate. It appears his campaign is pivoting into a pro-fracking stance, a stark contrast to where he was at any point in the last few years. The obvious question is, how much will any of this matter? On the one hand, 635,000 voters in Pennsylvania have already cast ballots, and it's

hard to imagine too many people changing their minds at this point. On the other hand, poll aggregators show Fetterman with anywhere from a 1-3% lead, with 6-8% of the votes still up for grabs. Those are a lot of votes still on the table, and a lot of independent-minded swing voters in the Keystone State. In a vacuum, I think Fetterman's policy positions are slightly more in line with the majority of Pennsylvania voters, which is probably why he started this campaign with such a healthy lead. That, paired with Oz's high unfavorability, tenuous support among the MAGA base, and vulnerabilities as a super-rich candidate who spent most of his life in New Jersey, made the race look like a solid blue hold early on. But elections aren't simply about issues and candidate profiles. They're also about basic human instincts, luck, and momentum.

Things have changed. About a month ago, after lots of conversations with neighbors, friends, Uber drivers, and journalists in the Philadelphia and Bucks County area, I predicted on Twitter that Oz would win in Pennsylvania. Enthusiasm for him seemed to be growing, and he's winning the sign wars in the suburbs, and I still believe the polls are underrepresenting pro-Trump conservatives. I can only imagine that Tuesday helped Oz. As Politico recently put it, the median voter in Pennsylvania is a middle-aged white person with a mid-five-figure salary who did not attend college. Whatever your feelings about it, that voter is unlikely to engage in the ableism debate progressive activists and

journalists are partaking in on Twitter, and even less likely to pore over a paywalled New York Times op-ed about auditory processing issues and stroke recovery. They're going to see a candidate with health problems, and for anyone left on the fence in this extremely close race, that's going to hurt Fetterman. All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to Your Questions Answered. This one is from an anonymous reader in California who said, do you see yourself as a political actor or do you see this newsletter as operating above politics or outside it somehow or something else? So that's actually a very interesting question. I definitely don't see myself as a political actor, which sounds more to me like an activist or lobbyist or politician. I think first and foremost,

I see myself as a journalist. That is my original craft and the career path that led me to creating Tangle. And the skills I learned in college reporting on politics in my professional career and at various journalism conferences are all skills I use every day for Tangle. But obviously, Tangle is about opinion too. Most of the original reporting or writing we do comes in Friday editions. The Monday through Thursday newsletter is a lot of aggregating other people's opinions, distilling the best information available in an even-handed way, and then offering my own perspective. My take definitely includes some reporting in that I often text, call, and email

or interview other people to help form my own opinions. But it's not traditional reporting, and I suppose the presence of my take makes me somewhat of a columnist. As for the newsletter itself, I do like to think of it as operating outside politics. I believe Tangle and this community we're building are an antithesis to the insider DC beltway genre. We try to tap into the core tenets of any single issue and the ways that issue will affect Americans. In my eyes, we are detached from the everyday happenings of the sensational or outraged news cycle, and by stepping outside of it and collecting a diverse set of opinions on it, we can offer a more rational and nuanced perspective on what's happening in the U.S.

and across the world. At least, that is my goal and how I imagine it. across the world. At least, that is my goal and how I imagine it. Alright, that's it for your questions answered, which brings us to our under-the-radar section. Members of another railroad union have rejected a tentative agreement on wages and work conditions, upending weeks of calm after the White House brokered a deal to prevent a strike. The brotherhood of railroad signalmen's latest vote means the two sides are headed back to the negotiating table, and failure to reach an agreement could mean a strike in December. A strike among railroad workers in the U.S. could cause chaos in an already shaky supply chain system.

Six of the 12 labor unions involved in the round of bargaining have ratified their agreements, but two of the largest are still in talks. The Wall Street Journal has the story, and there's a link to it in today's episode description. A heads up that that link is paywalled. All right, next up is our numbers section. The amount of money raised by John Fetterman in the three hours after Tuesday's debate was $1 million. John Fetterman's current average polling lead over Mehmet Oz, according to aggregation of polls from FiveThirtyEight, is 2.4%. John Fetterman's current polling lead over Mehmet

Oz, according to aggregation of polls from RealClearPolitics, is 1.3%. The number of Americans who get their health coverage through their employer is 159 million. The increase in premiums for healthcare coverage through an employer over the last five years is 20%. The number of people currently hospitalized in the U.S. from or with COVID-19 is 26,792. All right, and last but not least, our have a nice day story. A new app built by Berkeley researchers is warning people before earthquakes hit. This week, MyShake successfully gave California residents a nearly 20-second warning before a 5.1 magnitude earthquake hit the Bay Area on Tuesday. The app delivered the notification to 95,000 devices. It works by collecting motion

data from your phone and uses a patented neural network to determine if the motion fits the model of an earthquake. Some 2 million people downloaded the app after Tuesday's successful warning, and the creators hope it can be used down the road in countries where alternative systems aren't available. Right now, the app is functioning in California, Oregon, and Washington. SFGate has the story, and there's a link to it in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that is it for today's podcast. Like I mentioned at the top, if you want to hear from us tomorrow, you need to subscribe. You can go to our website, readtangle.com slash membership, or you can click the link that is in the episode description to

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can occur, and 100% protection is not guaranteed. Learn more at flucellvax.ca.