Tangle - The Friday Edition - Ken Block Interview

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Starting point is 00:01:00 From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and today we have a special Friday edition for you guys, a premium podcast. And this one is an interview that I conducted earlier this week that I found pretty interesting. The person I sat down with is named Ken Block, and you may not know him, but you probably should. He had a pretty interesting role in the 2020 election. He was hired by the Trump campaign shortly after the 2020 election to investigate allegations of voter fraud. He is an expert in the space, an expert in data analysis.

Starting point is 00:02:08 He's somebody who got into the field after running for office in Rhode Island and wanting to figure out how he lost, did a deep dive on all the voter data and the results in his election and discovered some interesting things. And this sort of propelled him into this world where he was somebody considered as a voter fraud and election fraud expert. And I came across his work

Starting point is 00:02:35 because of a book he recently wrote called Disproven that tells the story of his experience trying to find election fraud in 2020 as a paid consultant for the Trump campaign. It's a fascinating book. I'm going to let Ken share in his own words what happened and how things turned out, but I think you guys will appreciate this interview. I think he's a very interesting and open-minded person who, in my views, has a story that should be told to the American public. And so I'm sharing it with you guys today, exclusively right here on Tangle.

Starting point is 00:03:11 So with that, here is my interview with Ken Block. This interview, by the way, was conducted earlier this week. So you'll hear at the end, Ken actually makes a prediction about the 2024 election. Hasn't aged great, but I didn't want to cut it either because, you know, it's a fun last part of the episode. Hope you guys enjoy. Thanks. Ken Block, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Welcome to the show. Thanks so much for being here.

Starting point is 00:03:43 Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. So you have a fascinating story, and I want to maybe start with how you ended up doing some of the investigations into claims of the 2020 election fraud and how you came to be employed by former President Donald Trump. Yeah, well, I can tell you how it happened, but I can't tell you why it happened. I was sitting literally on the back porch with my family the day after the election. It was late afternoon and my cell phone rang with a number from DC that I didn't recognize. It was a Trump campaign lawyer named Alex Cannon

Starting point is 00:04:23 who blasted right through the pleasantries and said, listen, you know, we're told you're the guy and we want you to come help us see if you can find voter fraud in the election. And that was more or less the extent of the conversation. And I guess my mouth was hanging wide open after I hung up and my family, my daughter and wife were like, well, what's that? And I explained to them and we went back and forth a bit and I got clearance from them that they were okay with me doing the work. And so I called Alex back the next day and we had a quick negotiation over just terms and off went, trying to figure out if there were enough dead votes and duplicate votes in the swing states to have interfered with the results of any of those elections. So tell me a little bit about your background in Rhode Island and why

Starting point is 00:05:18 you think the Trump campaign viewed you as an expert and how you had the skill set to actually perform some of this work? Yeah, so I own a software engineering business, and what we do are large database applications. My team was the prime vendor for the state of Texas for their food stamp system, which is called the Lone Star Card system. That should give you a flavor of the types of systems that we do. I personally developed an expertise in voter data and sort of dragged my company along with me after the 2014 gubernatorial race in Rhode Island

Starting point is 00:05:58 where I was a Republican candidate for governor. Hey guys, thanks for tuning in. That was a free preview of today's Friday edition. A reminder that we are now offering ad-free and members-only podcasts, including the paywalled Friday newsletters that we publish every week. So this was an example, one of those. If you want to subscribe to unlock this episode, you can go to tanglemedia.supercast.com and become a subscriber. That's tanglemedia.supercast.com. That'll unlock the rest of this episode as well as other Friday and Sunday editions. And it'll also give you ad-free podcasts.

Starting point is 00:06:40 So you can go do that if you'd like to keep listening. Have a good weekend. Peace. podcast. So you can go do that if you'd like to keep listening. Have a good weekend. Peace. Our podcast is written by me, Isaac Saul, and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our script is edited by Ari Weitzman, Will Kabak, Bailey Saul, and Sean Brady. The logo for our podcast was made by Magdalena Vakova, who is also our social media manager. The music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. And if you're looking for more from Tangle, please go check out our website at readtangle.com. That's readtangle.com. Based on Charles Yu's award-winning book, Interior Chinatown follows the story of Willis Wu, Thanks for watching. buried history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown is streaming November 19th, only on Disney+.

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Tangle - The Friday Edition - Ken Block Interview

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