Tangle - The immigration raids in California.

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

On Thursday, federal immigration authorities said they arrested 319 people suspected of being in the country illegally in raids carried out by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and C...ustoms and Border Protection at two licensed cannabis farms in California. Law enforcement officers also found 10 children in the country illegally during the raids and arrested four United States citizens for allegedly assaulting or resisting officers, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Separately, a farmworker reportedly died after falling off the roof of a greenhouse at one of the farms. The immigration sweeps are believed to be the second-largest single-state ICE worksite operation in history. Ad-free podcasts are here!Many listeners have been asking for an ad-free version of this podcast that they could subscribe to — and we finally launched it. You can go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, our “Under the Radar” story ⁠here and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.Take the survey: What do you think of the Trump administration’s recent immigration actions? Let us know!Disagree? That's okay. My opinion is just one of many. Write in and let us know why, and we'll consider publishing your feedback.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by: Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Hunter Casperson, Kendall White, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 And welcome to the Tangle podcast, the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Sol. And on today's episode, we're gonna be covering the Southern California immigration raids that have been causing quite a bit of controversy, including two raids that happened on a couple of cannabis farms last week.
Starting point is 00:01:57 We're gonna break down exactly what happened, some arguments from the left and the right. And of course, my take. Before we jump in though, two quick things. First of all, we have a correction today, unfortunately. In the numbers section of Wednesday's podcast last week on the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, we wrote that Epstein had died in August, 2018.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 This is Senior Editor Will Kavak. I'm filling in for John this week, reading his parts. Let's jump in with today's quick hits. The State Department moved to lay off over 1,300 employees as part of a plan to eliminate duplicative agencies and streamline departmental operations. Separately, Attorney General Pam Bondi fired at least 20 prosecutors and support staffers linked to former special counsel Jack Smith's investigations into President Donald Trump. 2. Former President Joe Biden refuted claims by President Trump and other Republicans that he did not authorize the pardons and commutations signed with an auto pen at the end of his
Starting point is 00:04:34 term. The comments follow investigations launched by the Justice Department and Congress into Biden's mental state at the time the clemency actions were issued. 3. Two people were killed and two others injured in a shooting at a church in Lexington, Kentucky on Sunday. The suspect also shot a state trooper and was killed by law enforcement
Starting point is 00:04:53 responding to the shooting. Number four, emergency service officials in Gaza said an Israeli airstrike killed 10 people and injured 16 others waiting to fill water containers. Israel said it was targeting a terrorist, but missed due to a technical error. Number five, President Trump announced a new 30% tariff on imported goods and services from Mexico
Starting point is 00:05:14 and the European Union starting August 1st. ["Spring Day"] Officials in California today pushing back some after the raid lasted well into the night. Governor Gavin Newsom writing on X that kids are running from tear gas, crying on the phone because their mother wasn't, was just taken from the fields. Trump calls me new scum. He's the real scum. Newsom then sharing footage from the raid. Department of Homeland Security says it was executing a warrant at the farm, but right now, just coming in, we have new developments on this story. The United Farm Workers Union confirming in a statement saying a farm worker has died of injuries they sustained as a result of yesterday's immigration enforcement action. We are gathering more information.
Starting point is 00:06:08 On Thursday, federal immigration authorities said they arrested 319 people suspected of being in the country illegally in raids carried out by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE and Customs and Border Protection at two licensed cannabis farms in California. Law enforcement officers also found 10 children in the country illegally during the raids and arrested four United States citizens for allegedly assaulting or resisting officers, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Separately, a farm worker reportedly died after falling off the roof of a greenhouse at one of the farms. The immigration sweeps are believed to be the second largest single state ice worksite operation in history. Protesters clashed with federal agents during the raids, attempting to block ICE vehicles while agents deployed tear gas and crowd control munitions. The Federal Bureau of Investigation for Los Angeles is also offering a $50,000 reward
Starting point is 00:07:00 for information leading to the conviction of a suspect who appeared to fire a handgun at law enforcement during the protests. Furthermore, eight people were injured during the protests at one farm and transported to local hospitals, according to a spokesperson for the Ventura County Fire Department. President Donald Trump sharply criticized the protesters on Truth Social, writing that he had directed White House officials to, quote, instruct all ICE, Homeland Security, or any other law enforcement officer who is on the receiving end of thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault to stop their car
Starting point is 00:07:32 and arrest these slimeballs using whatever means is necessary to do so. I am giving total authorization for ICE to protect itself just like they protect the public, end quote. The United Farm Workers Union criticized the raids in a statement on X writing, many workers, including US citizens, were held by federal authorities at the farm
Starting point is 00:07:51 for eight hours or more. The statement continued, these violent and cruel federal actions terrorize American communities, disrupt the American food supply chain, threaten lives and separate families. There is no city, state or federal district where it is illegal to terrorize and detain people
Starting point is 00:08:08 for being brown and working in agriculture." Separately on Friday, a federal judge ruled in favor of challengers suing the Trump administration for ICE's operational tactics in the Los Angeles area. The judge banned ICE from detaining suspects based on their appearance, spoken language or apparent occupation, finding that taking such actions without reasonable suspicion violated the Fourth Amendment's protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.
Starting point is 00:08:33 The case was brought by five plaintiffs who claimed they were stopped because of their ethnicity, accents, and occupations during three separate raids in Los Angeles since June 6. Tricia McLaughlin, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, criticized the ruling, saying that the judge was, quote, undermining the will of the American people. Today we'll break down the arguments on ICE's deportation efforts in Southern California with views from the left, right, and writers in California.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Then Isaac gives his take. We'll be right back after this quick break. Some things just take too long. A meeting that could have been an email, someone explaining crypto, or switching mobile providers. Except with Fizz. Switching to Fizz is quick and easy. Mobile plans start at $17 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca.
Starting point is 00:09:31 This episode is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint, things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little too loose. Maybe it's a little too flimsy. Or maybe it's a little too covered in dirt because your best friend distracted you when you dropped it on the ground.
Starting point is 00:09:49 There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect. The pre-roll. Shop the summer pre-roll and infuse pre-roll sale today at ocs.ca and participating retailers. Here's what the left is saying. The left is critical of the raids and many suggest they will be politically damaging to Trump. Some say the administration is justifying the raids on false pretenses. In The Hill, Max Burns said Trump's immigration raids have gone too far. Trump's draconian immigration crackdowns may play well with his MAGA base,
Starting point is 00:10:29 but they're still alienating nearly everyone else, including the mainstream conservatives Republicans will depend on to protect their fragile congressional majorities next year, Burns wrote. A growing number of people, including Republican voters, are noticing that while Trump's immigration raids have swelled in size, aggression, and taxpayer cost, they haven't generated many
Starting point is 00:10:48 actual deportations. Meanwhile, they recoil at the regular drumbeat of news stories showcasing masked ICE agents urinating in school parking lots or illegally detaining US citizens. Prior to May, many Americans viewed ICE positively. Now the agency evokes images of masked men huddled around blacked out vans and alligator Alcatraz. Agents' refusal to identify themselves and MAGA's celebration of their unaccountability has led millions of Americans to see the agency as little more than Trump's personal skull
Starting point is 00:11:21 crushers, Burns said. ICE is now the best funded law enforcement agency in the nation, boasting a budget on par with the entire Canadian military. Millions of Americans have watched ICE grow into an unaccountable entity that sees no problem deploying military grade hardware to raid a children's summer camp,
Starting point is 00:11:39 and people are coming to the conclusion that the ends do not justify such brutal means. In USA Today, Larry Strauss wrote, ice has terrorized many into an ominous silence. Apparently, according to Attorney General Pam Bondi and President Donald Trump, California is burning. Here in Los Angeles, however, we know too well the smell of a serious conflagration
Starting point is 00:12:01 and also the stench of political gas when politicians try to justify corrupt assertions of authoritarian power," Strout said. We are protesting now not because we are lawless, but because what is happening is a racially selective application of immigration laws that should have been reformed years ago. We are protesting because we still believe in decency, human dignity, and respect for hard work and family. California is not burning.
Starting point is 00:12:26 LA is not burning. Some cars and other objects have been set ablaze by a few individuals who are willing to go to jail for their outrage, nihilism, pyromania, or whatever. Their conduct doesn't represent me or most of the rest of us, Strauss wrote. They certainly do not represent my students now living with terror and dread,
Starting point is 00:12:45 watching masked immigration and customs enforcement agents in armored vehicles occupying the parking lots of their supermarkets, scrolling the rumors that stream across social media about the next ice raid at another Home Depot or factory or school graduation. All right, here's what the right is saying. Many on the right criticized Democrats for downplaying the violent protesters and the discovery of children at the cannabis farms. Others call for stricter employment verification standards at farms. The Washington Examiner editorial board said Democrats defend child labor at California
Starting point is 00:13:29 marijuana farms. Waving and wearing Mexican flags, Democratic Party activists threw rocks and water bottles at federal agents as they executed a warrant to find illegal immigrants working at a marijuana farm 90 miles north of Los Angeles last week. When the tear gas had cleared, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced that 10 children had been found working there, eight of them unaccompanied by an adult, the board wrote. Despite this, Democratic leaders were unrepentant for opposing the enforcement of federal immigration
Starting point is 00:13:57 law. The cannabis farm Glasshouse Farms is growing so fast, it doesn't have time to pay its workers. At least, that was what a class action lawsuit alleged last year. It is easy not to pay workers when they are in the country illegally and even easier when they are children. California Governor Gavin Newsom and the Democratic Party are fine with all of this, the board said.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Local television helicopters captured one activist firing what appears to be a pistol at federal law officers. The U.S. attorney for the Central District of California has offered a $50,000 reward for any information that leads to the conviction of the man with the gun. No elected Democrat has come forward to criticize the attempted murder of federal officials. In national review, Carolyn Downey argued, ISIS California weed farm raid shows why we need mandatory e-verify. The episode is yet more evidence that the so-called humanitarians of this story, Democrats and progressives opposing the ICE deportations, are causing harm to the
Starting point is 00:14:51 populations they're claiming to support. More importantly, it shows that some agricultural companies are still supplying a major incentive for illegal immigration, employing illegal labor, Downey said. Illegal farm workers make up approximately 50% of the farm labor workforce in the U.S. These employers' complicity has been historically hard to combat, but nationally mandating e-Verify could change the game. e-Verify is not foolproof. Some of the documents that the program allows,
Starting point is 00:15:18 such as a voter registration card, birth certificate, and a driver's license, can be easily counterfeited or borrowed, Downey wrote. Still, e-verifier means one of the best tools at the administration's disposal. Businesses should be required to use this system, which stands the best chance of shutting down the market for illegal labor and therefore stemming the flood of illegal aliens to our border, hopefully for decades to come. And finally, here's what writers in California are saying. Some California writers argue the federal government's immigration
Starting point is 00:15:48 raids amount to political theater. Others say the raids underscored the unsustainability of an economy built on unauthorized immigrants. In CalMatters, Jim Newton said the federal government is staging political theater in Los Angeles. It was a month ago that President Donald Trump unilaterally decided that the city needed National Guard troops to contain anger
Starting point is 00:16:10 over his Department of Homeland Security's efforts to forcibly remove undocumented immigrants from the city, Newton wrote. Since that moment, practically everything about the protests or the federal response to them has lacked a connection to reality. It has largely been a series of orchestrated appearances, drive-by observations, and theatrical pronouncements.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Relatively few in a city of four million people even notice. Roughly 1,850 National Guardsmen remained deployed in Los Angeles more than a month after first arriving on a scene that was already under control. No one has died, and yet the soldiers are still here, Newton said. But while guardsmen wait for permission to go home, the administration or ratchets up its postured flexing. On Monday, Homeland security officers dressed up as soldiers and rode on horseback stomping around MacArthur Park. The scene was more amusing than threatening.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Onlookers whipped out cell phone cameras to document the sight of the horses traversing the grounds. In the Los Angeles Times, Joel Kotkin wrote, ice raids are cruel, but so is an economy built on undocumented labor. Even as Californians protest the crude and awful brutal deportation tactics employed by President Trump's ICE and Homeland Security agents, we're giving too little thought to how our state and the nation is failing the very immigrant community we want to protect, Kotkin said. The simple truth is that the low wage, high welfare economy dependent on illegal immigration isn't sustainable.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Economic reality suggests we need a common sense policy to restrict new migration and to focus on policies that can allow current immigrants, especially those deeply embedded in our communities and those with useful skills, to enjoy the success of previous generations. What would a common sense policy look like? It would secure the border,
Starting point is 00:17:54 which the Trump administration is already doing, and shift immigration priorities away from family reunion and more toward attracting those who can contribute to an increasingly complex economy. Deportation should prioritize convicted criminals and members of criminal gangs," Kotkin wrote. Law-abiding immigrants who are here without authorization should be offered a ticket home or a chance to register for legal status based on a clean record, paying taxes, and steady employment. In addition, we need to consider a new Bracero program,
Starting point is 00:18:23 which allowed guest workers to come to the U.S. legally without their families in the mid-20th century. All right, that is it for the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take. So as usual, the right and the left here are very much talking past each other, but on two distinct immigration stories that I think are worth fleshing out on their own. The first one is the story of two cannabis farm raids in Southern California, including Glass House Farms, one of the largest distributors in the world. The second is the Trump administration's general immigration enforcement approach, particularly in Southern California. I'm going to start with the cannabis farms. To put it simply, these are the kinds of raids that I
Starting point is 00:19:14 would expect from the federal government. Employing hundreds of allegedly illegal workers at one cannabis farm is effectively an invitation for law enforcement action, especially when some of them are under the age of 18. Child labor probably evokes too exploitative an image to me. CBP said all the miners detained were at least 14, which is the same age I started working. But California prohibits miners from working on cannabis farms. A few things about this story are ironic. First, Republicans are decrying violations to California's labor laws for minors, despite generally opposing laws that limit minors' ability to work.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Second, the owner of Glass House is a former cop and Trump voter who has gardened a reputation for doing things by the book. That a place like Glass House is employing so many unauthorized migrants underscores some structural issues in agricultural employment, and claims from Glass House that its operation was on the up and up don't resolve any questions about how these kids got to this farm and were employed without papers. Child trafficking
Starting point is 00:20:14 is a genuine problem along the border and we have no way of knowing whether some of the kids were forced to be there. Meanwhile, the response to the raids provoked exactly the kind of conflict I've been worried about under Trump's immigration approach. News spreads about a major enforcement action protesters arrived to resist, and tensions quickly escalate. Protesters throwing rocks doesn't adequately describe the situation. Videos show that it was actually quite dangerous for the immigration officials who resorted to using tear gas to disperse crowds.
Starting point is 00:20:44 One protester appears to have fired a handgun towards officers. The whole thing is a mess, and of course these direct and violent confrontations only reinforce Trump and the right's belief that immigration officials must be heavily armed during these raids. The second story, and perhaps the bigger one, is the Trump administration's general enforcement tactics in the region. ICE has significantly increased its daily arrests in recent weeks and is now holding roughly 54,000 unauthorized migrants in detention facilities,
Starting point is 00:21:13 and they're just getting started. The agency is planning to ramp up enforcement and detention with their newly flushed budget to hit an aggressive deportation quota, which will lead the administration to stop focusing on bad hombres and instead start targeting anyone here illegally, including those performing jobs critical to industries like agriculture and hospitality. Now we're at the point where employers are having their limits tested, a conflict
Starting point is 00:21:37 that President Trump is apparently struggling with himself. The public is being tested too. I think whether Americans support this kind of enforcement will be determined by how these stories play out in the communities experiencing these deportations. But I know that we're no longer targeting drug traffickers, gang members, or hearty criminals. For now, it seems like the general public is souring on Trump's deportation agenda.
Starting point is 00:22:00 If the administration's raids at these cannabis farms are on the justifiable end of what they've done to enforce immigration and labor laws, and I think they are, many of its actions leading up to the raids are on the other side of the spectrum. On Friday, I wrote about some of these more horrific actions, many of which have come in Southern California. Perhaps most memorably, the administration deployed National Guard troops and federal officers on foot, on horseback, and in military vehicles in Los Angeles' MacArthur Park. Troops were purportedly deployed to support a crackdown on a park notorious for criminal activity, especially the distribution of fake IDs and illicit drugs.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But in reality, the operation was botched. The National Guard was supposed to be protecting federal immigration officials, but showed up late and then marched around aimlessly. Nothing may have gotten out of hand at MacArthur Park, but it did show an administration gearing up for a fight. Trump appears to be intimidating local officials and communities in a submission through the militarization of our immigration police, which I find to be a gross and un-American expression of power.
Starting point is 00:23:04 As journalist Ken Clippenstein put it, many in the military who are on the ground in Los Angeles think that ICE and others from Homeland Security dressing up in Army green and using armored vehicles on the streets of an American city undermines the reputation of the armed forces. And I agree. How will the military's reputation be affected
Starting point is 00:23:23 if American citizens experience the armed forces as a police force in their own communities? Conversely, how will the police's reputation be affected when it's outfitted like the military? I always find these questions more helpful if we make them personal. If you were in a park with your kids when it was suddenly swarmed by heavily armed
Starting point is 00:23:40 soldier-looking police with Humvees and military trucks, how would you feel? Meanwhile, a federal judge ruled that the administration has been unconstitutionally targeting people for speaking Spanish or appearing to be Hispanic than denying detainees the right to consult with a lawyer. These are basic American principles. The police aren't allowed to profile you
Starting point is 00:24:00 and you have a right to representation. As I've said again and again, if you remove these basic rights for suspected non-citizens, you remove them for everyone. We have no way of knowing whether the people the government is targeting are US citizens if their rights are violated in the process and US citizens are already getting caught up in the dragnet. I want to be very clear here though, the US is in a bad place with the legal immigration.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Many millions of people are here illegally with no pathway to citizenship. Regardless of whether you support deporting them en masse or not, the morally defensible and legally legitimate process of locating, detaining and deporting millions of people without violating their rights is extremely difficult, expensive and time consuming. This is all great justification for limiting illegal immigration in the first place, which we could do the Trump way. He has successfully brought illegal immigration to an all-time low with aggressive border enforcement or by opening up more pathways to legal work permits and citizenship,
Starting point is 00:24:58 or with a combination of the two. But the current situation does require a response, and the Trump administration is well within its rights to raid cannabis farms where hundreds of people are potentially employed illegally, including children. Protesters resisting those raids are making immigration enforcement more dangerous. At the same time, the Trump administration is regularly violating the rights of American citizens and non-citizens alike all across Southern California.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Its intentional provocations are unsettling and justify resistance from the public and local officials. More than anything else, the perils of enforcing immigration through deportation should show responsible legislators why it's so important to limit illegal immigration before unauthorized migrants enter the country in the first place. enter the country in the first place. Weing to Fizz is quick and easy. Mobile plans start at $17 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at Fizz.ca. This episode is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint, things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little
Starting point is 00:26:17 too loose. Maybe it's a little too flimsy. Or maybe it's a little too covered in dirt because your best friend distracted you and you dropped it on the ground. There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect, the pre-roll. Shop the summer pre-roll and infuse pre-roll sale today at ocs.ca and participating retailers. All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Claire in Chicago, Illinois. Claire said, I'm curious why you didn't include a section on what trans writers are saying in your coverage of the Scrimetti decision. I've been enjoying your expanded use of what ex writers are saying, and this is an issue
Starting point is 00:27:03 where I'd like to hear more from those directly impacted. Okay, so first of all, upfront, we should note that we did include two perspectives from transgender writers in our coverage of United States v. Skirmetti, though we did not label them what transgender writers are saying. Under the commentary for the left, we included a piece from Aaron Reed, a journalist who writes a popular substack newsletter, and a piece from M. Gessen, a New York Times columnist. Why not put these pieces under their own banner? Well, we are increasingly looking for opportunities to use that kind of two-two-two format of what the left and right are saying, and then what
Starting point is 00:27:38 ex-writers are saying. We also want to be careful to not effectively create a four-to-two ideological split, where we sample writers from a specific group who just add two more liberal or conservative views to the mix. In this case, virtually all of the pieces we surveyed from the left and transgender writers specifically were staunchly opposed to the ruling. So having two what the left is saying articles and two what transgender writers are saying articles would have created an imbalance. We could have had one piece from say a trans writer
Starting point is 00:28:09 and one piece from a parental rights advocate, but that range of perspectives on the case was naturally covered by our normal format. Conversely, both today's piece and our recent edition on the floods in Texas offered great examples of when the 222 format works well. The two pieces from Texas and California writers offered distinct perspectives through location specific insights we didn't see from national commentators.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So we agree that including commentary from groups with a direct stake in the issues we cover is important and we'll continue to do so both within our standard three left, three right format and the-2 format when we think it's appropriate. Alright, that is it for your questions answered. I'm going to send it back to Will for the rest of the pod and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a good one. Peace. Thanks, Isaac. Alright, let's move on to our Under the Radar story for today.
Starting point is 00:29:03 In recent months, early warning systems protecting global cybersecurity infrastructure have shown significant gaps in coverage. In February 2024, the National Vulnerability Database, NVD, which tracks known security vulnerabilities in software, hardware and operating systems, stopped publishing new entries. Then in April 2025, a leaked letter suggested that the funding for the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures Program, CVE, which serves as a key number in system for tracking software flaws, was about to expire. Both programs helped patch vulnerabilities in cybersecurity systems, which are the second most common targets for cyber attackers.
Starting point is 00:29:43 The CVE's funding was eventually extended, but the backlog and vulnerabilities disclosed to the NVD has stretched to 25,000, roughly 10 times its previous high. MIT Technology Review has this story and we'll put the link to it in today's show notes. All right, on to today's number section. The estimated number of workers in California's legal cannabis market in 2024 was 78,618,
Starting point is 00:30:14 according to a May 2025 report from the UCLA Labor Center. Next, the percentages of workers surveyed in the cannabis industry who self-reported their ethnicity as Latino or Hispanic was 38%, who said they were white was 32%, and who said they were African-American or black was 22%. Next, the size and square feet of Glasshouse Brands Cannabis Facility in Camarillo, California is 5.5 million square feet. Next, the percentage of Americans who approve of President Donald Trump's handling of immigration is 47.3% and those who disapprove is 50.1% according to RealClearPolitics' average of polls through July 8th. Next, the percentage of Americans who said immigration levels in the US
Starting point is 00:30:58 should be decreased was 55% in 2024 according to a Gallup poll. And next, the percentage of Americans who said immigration in the US should be decreased was 30% in a new Gallup poll that was released on July 11th. Next, the number of individuals booked into detention by Immigration and Customs Enforcement between October 1st, 2024 and June 14th, 2025 was 204,297, according to a Cato Institute report. And finally, the percentage of those booked into detention
Starting point is 00:31:30 who had no prior criminal convictions was 65%. And let's bring it home with today's Have a Nice Day story. Even though early screenings are one of the best ways to prevent cancer deaths, one in four women in the United States is behind on their cervical cancer screenings. One reason for this may be that the standard cervical cancer screen method, a pap smear, is physically invasive. However, the Food and Drug Administration recently approved a new at-home self-testing option developed by Select Laboratories, a startup exploring the
Starting point is 00:32:03 feasibility of placing nanomaterials in menstrual pads to detect the virus that frequently causes cervical cancer. Quote, women are desperate for proper health care that is made for them, by them and that they can trust. C.T. Murphy, a leading researcher at Select said, this technology is not only wanted, but desperately needed. Good, good, good has this story. And again, we'll put the link to it in today's show notes. All right that is it for today's edition. Thanks for hanging with us. We will be back tomorrow. Talk to you then. Have a good one. Our executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Saul, and our executive producer is John Lowell. Today's episode was edited and engineered
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