Tangle - The looming government shutdown.
Episode Date: December 19, 2024On Wednesday, House Republican leadership scrapped a bill to temporarily fund the government after President-elect Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and House Republicans came out against the effort.... The sudden change of course comes just days before current government funding runs out on Friday night, and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has not indicated whether he will pursue a new bill to avert a shutdown.Note: This is a developing story. The information in this section is up-to-date as of 11:30 am ET on Thursday, December 19.Ad-free podcasts are here!Many listeners have been asking for an ad-free version of this podcast that they could subscribe to — and we finally launched it. You can go to tanglemedia.supercast.com to sign up!The gift of Tangle.A quick reminder that you can give the gift of Tangle! We have gift subscriptions on our website that are discounted to encourage buying them for your family member, friend, or colleague (especially those who you struggle to discuss politics with!). Click here to spread the love.You can read today's podcast here, our “Under the Radar” story here and today’s “Have a nice day” story here.Take the survey: What do you want the House of Representatives to do with the funding bill? Let us know!You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our podcast is written by Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Jon Lall. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Will Kaback, Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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From executive producer, Isaac Saul, and good evening.
And welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum,
some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take.
I'm your host, Isaac Sahl, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about the
now-tanked government funding bill and the potential government shutdown coming this weekend.
Yesterday when we were working on this podcast, we were getting ready to tell you a story about
a short-term continuing resolution, a short-term spending bill as it is known. And instead we're
talking about maybe a government shutdown. So we're going to break down exactly what happened,
share some views from the left and the right, and then as always,
I'll give you my take.
Before we jump into that though, I do want to give you one last heads up that tomorrow
I'm doing something personal.
I am sharing a little bit about my upbringing and then writing about how it informs my views
on class and class politics in America.
I think it's going to be an interesting conversation starter on where both parties are and it'll
probably shed some light on how I view class issues in our country. So I'm looking forward to that.
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well. All right, with that, I'm going to pass it over to John for today's main pod and I'll be back
for my take. Thanks, Isaac. And welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today.
First up, the Federal Reserve lowered its benchmark interest rate by 0.25 points to
a range of 4.25% to 4.5%, while also indicating that it expects to slow down its rate cuts.
Number two, a Georgia appeals court disqualified the office of Fulton County District Attorney
Fannie Willis from prosecuting the 2020 election interference case against President-elect
Donald Trump, citing a significant appearance of impropriety from Willis' relationship
with ex-special prosecutor Nathan Wade.
3. The Supreme Court agreed to hear a challenge to a federal law that would require the social media app TikTok
to sell its U.S. business by January 19th or be banned in the country.
Number 4. A person in Louisiana was hospitalized with the first known severe illness caused by
bird flu in the U.S. The person had been in contact with sick and dead birds in a backyard flock.
Separately, California Governor Gavin Newsom
declared a state of emergency related to bird flu, which is spreading among dairy herds
throughout the state.
And number five, thousands of Amazon workers went on strike amid a dispute over a new contract
and the company's refusal to recognize the Teamsters Labor Union as their representation. Not even 24 hours after congressional leaders released a 1500 page bill that would keep the
government funded for the next three months, the threat of a shutdown at the end of this week is
back. Republicans in Congress are being pressured by the president-elect and vice president-elect
to block the bill.
On social media, Mr. Trump said Congress should instead pass a streamlined spending bill, and
he told Republicans to get smart and tough.
President-elect Trump is taking credit for killing a government funding deal as lawmakers
race desperately to avert a government shutdown. Trump tells our chief Washington correspondent, John
Carl, there will be a government shutdown unless Congress eliminates or extends the
debt ceiling. Congress has until tomorrow's deadline to keep the government funded.
On Wednesday, House Republican leadership scrapped a bill to temporarily fund the government
after President-elect Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and House Republicans came out against the
effort.
The sudden change, of course, comes just days before current government funding runs out
on Friday night, and House Speaker Mike Johnson has not indicated whether he will pursue a
new bill to avert a shutdown.
Please note that this is a developing story.
The information in this
podcast is up to date as of 1130 a.m. Eastern Time. After weeks of negotiations, House and
Senate leaders released a text of a 1,547-page continuing resolution on Tuesday, but faced a
media pushback from House members, particularly on the Republican side. The bill would have funded
the government through mid-March and contained a host of
other measures, including approximately $100 billion for natural disaster relief and an
additional $10 billion in economic aid to farmers.
Other provisions covered a mix of Republican and Democratic priorities, such as funds to
help rebuild Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge, reauthorizations for public health
programs, a federal flood
insurance program, a national security drone program, changes to regulations for pharmacy
benefit managers, business practices, and restrictions on U.S. capital investment in
China.
Furthermore, the bill would have amended the language of a previous continuing resolution
to allow for cost of living adjustments to congressional salaries, setting the stage for the first pay raise for lawmakers since 2009.
Lawmakers would also have been able to opt out of coverage under the Affordable
Care Act marketplace and use the federal employees health benefits program.
Many Republicans swiftly criticized House leadership for the bills concessions to
Democrats, as well as the rushed timeline to avoid a shutdown.
Representative Eli Crane, the Republican from Arizona, one of the eight House members who
voted to oust former Speaker Kevin McCarthy last year, called the bill a complete monstrosity.
Senator Susan Collins, the Republican from Maine, suggested Johnson should have prioritized
a full fiscal year spending bill to give the incoming Trump administration a clean slate.
Elon Musk was also a vocal opponent, writing on X,
any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in two years.
Then on Wednesday afternoon, Vice President-elect J.D. Vance posted a statement on X on behalf of President-elect Trump,
calling the bill a mistake and suggesting a new bill
should include a provision to increase the debt ceiling so it could be done on Biden's
watch.
Shortly after Vance posted the statement, House Republicans pulled the bill.
Johnson's next steps are unclear.
He initially had two primary routes to avoid a government shutdown—an omnibus bill extending
government funding through the remainder of the fiscal year, or a skinny CR that would have temporarily funded the government and allowed Republicans
to negotiate a longer-term spending plan when they assume full control of Congress in January.
Johnson's bill included elements of both options, funding the government into the first
two months of the new congressional term with a slew of other spending included.
A skinny CR may be the Speaker's only remaining choice, though passing anything by Friday
will prove challenging.
Under normal circumstances, Johnson could advance the bill through the House Rules Committee,
which would allow it to pass the House with a simple majority.
However, the timeline is tight and Johnson's strained relationship with some Republican
members on the Rules Committee would likely require him to bring up any bill under suspension of the rules,
requiring a two-thirds majority for passage. Whereas many Democrats were poised to support the original bill,
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is now suggesting that his members would not support a skinny continuing resolution,
calling into question whether a new bill could garner the votes to pass.
Today, we'll share perspectives from the right and the left on the spending bill,
and then Isaac's take.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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All right.
First up, let's start with what the right is saying.
The right is mostly opposed to the original bill, arguing that a clean continuing resolution
is a better way to temporarily fund the government. Some criticized Johnson for his approach to this bill and passed funding negotiations.
Others suggest Johnson will keep his job as Speaker but faces a difficult year ahead.
National Review's editors said the year-end spending bill deserves to die.
This everyone-gets-porc spending bill at year's end is the sort of thing Johnson had promised
not to do as speaker.
He insists the bill is not a Christmas tree, but it's hard to see why that isn't a fair
description for a must-pass spending bill in the second half of December ornamented
with just about every spare piece of legislation sitting around the Capitol, the editors wrote.
Donald Trump and JD Vance have announced their opposition to the bill, but they threw in
their desire to also raise the debt limit.
Congress will likely have until June to raise the debt limit.
The pressing deadline is to avoid a government shutdown on Friday.
A clean CR that keeps the government funded in the short term should be the way to go
for the House right now.
If Trump and Elon Musk want things to look different in the future, they should prioritize
a complete reworking of the Congressional budget process by rewriting the laws that
govern it," the editor said.
The Congressional tradition of enormous must-pass bills at the end of the calendar year, with
no time to even read the legislation, let alone debate it, is the kind of thing Republicans
should be striving to end.
In The Federalist, Sean Fleetwood wrote, Mike Johnson's latest spending scheme proves he's
Democrats' useful idiot.
Following days of backdoor scheming, congressional leaders released the text of their 1,547-page
spending measure to fund the federal government through March 2025. Deceptively marketed as a continuing resolution, or CR, the bill bears all the hallmarks of
the bloated omnibus packages Johnson recently promised voters wouldn't happen under his
watch, Fleetwood said.
Representative Chip Roy, the Republican from Texas, perfectly summed up Congress' latest
spending scam following a closed-door Tuesday meeting among the Republican conference telling reporters,
"...Congress is fundamentally unserious about spending.
As long as you have a blank check, you can't shrink government.
If you can't shrink government, you can't live free."
Johnson's promises are about as meaningful as the gum stuck to the bottom of a shoe.
As he's demonstrated time and again, the Louisiana representative will fold like a cheap
house of cards on any given policy fight at the first sign of confrontation, leaving Republican
voters hanging in the wind," Fleetwood wrote. And that right there has been the story of
Johnson's entire speakership. His willingness to further the status quo, even if it means
empowering Democrats, has made him the Left's useful idiot. He's a weak, impotent speaker going along to get along, and as per usual, it's conservative
voters who pay the price.
In Blaze Media, Christopher Bedford explored what Republicans' end-of-year fights mean
for 2025.
Johnson promised an open process led by committee chairs that shunned the traditional Christmas omnibus spending package and gave members at least 72 hours to read a bill before a
vote.
The process has been opaque.
Committee chairmen have been excluded.
The package taking shape looks a lot like a little omnibus, and given the Friday midnight
deadline, it's barely skating in under those 72 hours of reading time.
And then the Senate gets to take a stab.
It'll likely be a long weekend on Capitol Hill.
Conservatives like Representative Chip Roy are mad about the process, the spending, the
ethanol subsidies, and the handouts to Democrats.
More mainline Republicans, like Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith, the Republican from
Missouri, are angry that neither they nor their priorities seem to be included in the negotiations," Bedford wrote. Johnson can expect to give a pound of flesh for all of his
letdowns. Don't expect him to lose his job, though. Neither Trump's nor Johnson's colleagues have the
stomach for a drawn-out leadership fight with the margins the House still has.
Alright, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying.
The left is critical of House Republicans' handling of the bill, noting that Johnson
has consistently appeared inept in these spending fights.
Some worry that Elon Musk's involvement in the episode portends his outsized influence
in the government. Others say Trump is doing exactly what his campaign promised he would.
In MSNBC, Hayes Brown called the funding showdown, Congress's worst Christmas tradition. Outside
a few gringes, nobody in Washington wants to see a shutdown happen at Christmas, and
yet it's only the threat of ruining the holidays that ever seems to prompt any sort of urgency from lawmakers," Brown said. On one hand, Republicans have little
reason to pass the kind of massive omnibus bills we've seen in December's past to fully fund the
government through the end of the fiscal year. The GOP leadership knows that Republicans will
control the White House and the Senate next month. But on the other hand, the core dynamics at play
in the Capitol are the same we've seen
for the last two years, meaning getting through the holidays is still easier said than done.
Annoyance with Congressional procrastination is one of the only areas in which I agree
with the far-right members of the Republican caucus.
The constant end-of-year fiscal crunch is truly ridiculous given the number of programs
that get hung on the Christmas tree at the last minute with little time for debate.
Still, I'd normally worry that Congress's punting on most of these major spending decisions
until the GOP holds a trifecta would herald a policy disaster.
In New York Magazine, Ed Kilgore wrote, Elon Musk is trying to force a government shutdown.
Ever since Donald Trump rewarded Elon Musk for his massive election assistance by putting him in charge of dismantling large swaths of the federal government,
no one has been quite sure what to think of it, Kilgore said.
It was generally assumed we'd find out the answer to this key question once Congress got
moving on budget legislation to implement Trump's agenda and Doge either sniped from the sidelines or tried to bigfoot its way into decisions about spending and revenues,
Musk and Ramoswami are firing off tweets blasting Johnson's handiwork to hardy attaboys from Maggaland
and calling for a government shutdown that nobody in Washington wants or had anticipated, Kilgore wrote.
No matter how it turns out, this is a disaster for Johnson, who will soon face a close re-election
vote for Speaker.
A sudden humiliation at the hands of an unelected co-director of an unfunded and unofficial
entity won't make it easier.
And it's also bad news for the incoming administration, the Congress, and the country.
If Elon Musk can work this sort of destructive wonder in a matter of hours, who's going
to tell him there are limits to his power?
In CNN, Stephen Collinson said, we are witnessing the new Washington of Donald Trump and Elon
Musk.
The Trump-Musk blocking maneuver plunged the Capitol into one of its classic year-end crises,
pitched Johnson's hopes of keeping his job into extreme doubt, and offered a preview
of the chaos that may churn in Trump's second term," Collinson wrote.
The sabotaging of Johnson's funding initiative triggered shock and confusion on Capitol Hill,
but for many of Trump's supporters and boosters in the conservative media who are anticipating massive cuts to federal programs, the mayhem is the point. Even if the impasse leads to a damaging government shutdown that may represent progress for some
since the government itself is viewed with disdain on the populist right.
And by taking aim at the Washington status quo even before he takes the oath of office,
Trump is doing exactly what he said he'd do on the campaign trail, Constance said.
But the sudden imbroglio also highlighted one of the key issues facing Trump in his
second term.
If he wants to pass his tax cuts, push through his immigration overhauls, defend the country,
and leave a meaningful legacy, he will have to find some way to govern, even if that draws
him into conflict with base voters and mega-ideologues who seem happy to burn government to the ground.
Alright, let's head over to Isaac for his take.
Alright, that is it for what the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my
take.
So, it's a nice try from Speaker Mike Johnson, but I got to say good intentions are not good
governance.
And instead of writing a take about how shrewd the Speaker of the House is, we're starting
to wonder whether his time as Speaker might be coming to a close.
In the end, the bill ended up including
a slew of priorities from Republicans and Democrats that were to be expected, and a few that were
probably never going to play that well. Altogether, the CR had a little something for everyone to
complain about, and in retrospect, it's not too surprising that it died. These were the major
parts of the 1,547-page bill.
There was $100 billion in disaster relief, including $31 billion for agriculture relief,
$29 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, that's FEMA, and $12 billion for
a community development fund overseen by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
There was $10 billion in additional aid for farmers.
There was an ability for members of Congress to get cost of living increases for their
salaries from $174,000 a year to somewhere around $250,000 a year.
There were a host of other line items like transferring the home stadium of the Washington
commanders.
That's my favorite football team, by the way, and I very much want to see that stadium back
in DC.
To be back under the purview of Washington, DC, that might not see the light of day
again, but you know, we'll see.
So those were some of the big components.
The disaster relief and farm aid bill are obviously necessary, and I expect both to
be in the next bill Johnson brings forward to keep the government open.
As I wrote in the wake of Hurricane Helene, when people were accusing the federal
government of abandoning North Carolina,
the feds were always going to play clean up by funding disaster relief efforts with massive bills like this one.
That's just how it works.
We need more funds for disaster relief.
And while there's healthy disagreement over how those funds are managed,
not many people disagree that the additional support is crucial.
The same is true for aid for farmers.
Agriculture aid is now a bipartisan effort.
Everything else from this CR might make some sense
in a vacuum, but probably won't be in the next CR.
For example, you can bet that the provision
allowing pay raises for lawmakers will be cut.
I'm actually kind of sad to see that go.
I know it sounds weird to say,
but while our representatives make a healthy salary
as it is, many people would kill
to make six figures in this country.
Both the left and the right actually make good arguments that raising their pay will
encourage better candidates and help prevent corruption.
So it makes sense not to sneak that kind of thing into a giant end of year CR.
To be honest, I don't see the point in spending too much time dragging Johnson.
Plenty of the writers we're quoting today were already eager to do so. And he's in a very difficult position, attempting to hold together
a Republican conference that has a sizable wing of members willing to shut down the government
over spending, that doesn't want to make any concessions before they gain control of both
chambers and the White House, and that holds only a slim majority in the House. He has to lead that
conference in an environment where any representative can call a snap vote
for his removal.
The opposition party controls the Senate
and the lame duck Democrat is in the White House
all while avoiding the nightmare of a government shutdown
over Christmas, no less.
When Johnson replaced Representative Kevin McCarthy,
the Republican from California as speaker last year,
I was skeptical that he would succeed.
Actually, Johnson is about to get run over
is word for word how I opened my take.
He was inexperienced with both leadership
and managing the political spotlight.
He had a bad record as a fundraiser,
and as I said earlier, he was set up to fail
under the rules Republicans put in place
when they ousted McCarthy.
But I've got to say, he's impressed me.
He survived attempts to oust him,
winning over enough Democrats when he's had me. He's survived attempts to house him winning over enough Democrats when he's had to,
he's kept the government running, he oversaw a successful election cycle for Republicans,
and he's even gotten some hard-earned legislative wins.
And related to today's topic, I believe he genuinely wants to reform the way we fund
our government.
When he helped avert the last government shutdown, I appreciated his laddered approach to splitting
up the usual omnibus funding bill into smaller bills. Our federal budget is supposed to be funded through
12 separate appropriations bills in a timely manner that allows Congress to pass a responsible
budget. Instead, Congress's standard operating procedure has been to bicker in back rooms
until the last possible second and then cram everything that everybody wants into one enormous
appropriations bill
without anyone having enough time
to fully read or understand it.
Basically, exactly what they did here.
I'm glad Johnson didn't take the route
of passing a gargantuan omnibus bill
that nobody has time to read,
but cramming all of this
into a slightly smaller continuing resolution
without giving anyone time to fully understand it
is really not that much better.
The more I consider the middle path he took here, the more I'm left scratching my head at why he didn't at least attempt to pass a skinnier continuing resolution, even if just for the optics.
A small CR could have gotten through the House Rules Committee without opening up the door to
spending offsets that ranking members like Representative Chip Roy from Texas were demanding.
It could have been more responsible, allowing more time to split up the usual omnibus spending bill
into smaller portions in the next term. More importantly though, it also would
have been much more politically advantageous. Why dole out any
appropriations now when you have to work with a Democrat controlled Senate and
White House? Apparently Republicans were asking the same question. Johnson was
having trouble navigating the House Rules Committee, which includes some
conservative hardliners, and decided to take his bill straight to the House floor for a
vote where it would have required two-thirds of the chamber for approval.
This guaranteed that he'd have to make concessions to Democrats and balloon the size of the final
bill that he brought to the floor.
When Republicans saw that bill, a large enough number of them were so angered by it that
they immediately killed it. And to be frank, I don't blame them. When Republicans
decry massive government spending and giant omnibus bills filled with pork and concessions,
I can't help but nod my head in agreement. The obvious issue here is that without a spending bill,
we get a shutdown. So what would that mean? Millions of federal workers will go home for
Christmas without paychecks. Air traffic controllers and TSA agents won't be paid. 72% of the
Department of Homeland Security will be asked to work without pay. National parks will close.
Snap distributions will face a ticking clock before they stop getting delivered. Essential
services will still function and Social Security payments will still be made, but it'll be
a total mess. Nobody wants to own that,
so you can guess what's about to happen.
Republicans are demanding something new
that includes language to raise the debt ceilings now,
so Trump won't have to be the one responsible
for doing it later.
There's no time to negotiate a new spending bill
before a shutdown,
and any deal that includes raising the debt ceiling
is not going to pass with a two-thirds majority,
unless it's chock full of Democratic priorities.
So Republicans will try to move a bill through the rules committee that has some shot to
pass.
I have no idea how Johnson gets that bill out in time.
Members of Congress are notorious for finding a way to get home for the holidays, but Senate
Democrats aren't going to save Johnson after backing out of their done deal, even though
they clearly worked with him in good faith up to this point.
Trump and Musk seem to have riled up enough conservatives
that they have to walk away with some kind of win here,
but most of their ass will never clear
a Democrat-controlled White House and Senate, so we wait.
Whatever comes next, it looks like the writing
is on the wall for Johnson,
perhaps not right away, but sometime soon.
He has infuriated some members of his caucus,
and there seem to be cracks in his relationship
with Trump and the newly drunk on power Musk.
I'm not holding out much hope for him to retain his position after Trump takes office.
Instead, I'm just hoping the House finds a way to keep the government open without a
massive bloated spending bonanza.
Then, when we have to do this all over again next year, maybe the process can be slightly
more sane.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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started today. All right. That is it for my take today. The pod got a little bit long, so we're skipping
our reader question listener question section. So I'm going to send it back to John for the
rest of the pod and I'll see you guys tomorrow if you're a Tangle member. And if not, I'll
see you guys back here on Monday.
Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. A bill that would increase Social Security benefits for some public sector workers appears headed to President
Joe Biden's desk after garnering bipartisan support in the Senate. If enacted, the bill,
called the Social Security Fairness Act, would increase benefit payments
to roughly 3 million retired teachers, law enforcement officers, and other workers receiving
public pensions whose payouts are currently limited under an existing law.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill would increase average monthly payouts
by $460 for Social Security beneficiaries and by approximately $1,000 for some spouses of
affected workers by 2033.
However, some lawmakers have balked at the price tag of the effort.
It is projected to cost $196 billion over 10 years and deplete the Social Security Trust
Fund six months earlier.
The Wall Street Journal has this story and there's a link in today's episode description.
Alright next up is our numbers section.
The number of federal funding gaps that have lasted at least one full day since 1977 is
20.
The number of full or partial federal shutdowns resulting from a funding gap since 1977 is
10. The length in days of the
longest government shutdown since 1977 is 34, from December 21, 2018 to January 25, 2019.
The estimated loss in gross domestic product in 2019 resulting from that shutdown is $3 billion
according to the Congressional Budget Office.
The number of government shutdowns that have begun while one party was in control of the
House, Senate, and White House is three.
That was Democrats in 1980 and Republicans in 2018, twice.
The percentage of U.S. adults who say the government is spending too much is 60 percent,
according to a 2023 AP NORC poll.
The percentage of Democrats and Republicans, respectively, who say the government is spending
too much is 34 percent and 88 percent.
The percentage of Americans who say they would rather have a bigger government providing
more services than smaller government providing fewer services is 49 percent, according to
a 2023 Pew Research survey. And the percentage of Americans who say reducing
the budget deficit should be a top priority for the President and Congress is 57%.
And last but not least our Have a Nice Day story.
Fashion guru and social media influencer April Lockhart has a limb difference. She was born with only one hand.
Lockhart doesn't let it faze her, happily sharing her lifestyle with over 152,000 Instagram
followers and often emphasizing confidence and inclusivity in her content.
Recently she partnered with DSW to create a tiny disabled fashion girlies pop-up event,
in which girls with limb differences were invited to pick out outfits, be dazzled shoes, and enjoy each other's company. You can watch a video from the
event with a link in today's episode description. Alright everybody, that is it for today's episode.
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media manager. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.
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Timothy Chalamet reinvents himself again as Bob Dylan in A Complete Unknown, a riveting portrayal of the legendary artist's meteoric rise and groundbreaking journey.
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