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Episode Date: November 29, 2022We're breaking down the protests in China and what they mean for the world. Plus, a question about mass shooting statistics and an opportunity to do some good on this Giving Tuesday.On this giving Tue...sday, donate to Double Trellis Food initiative here.You can read today's podcast here, and today’s “Under the Radar” story here, Today’s clickables: Quick hits (3:43), Today’s story (4:43), Right’s take (10:20), Left’s take (15:52), Isaac’s take (20:40), Listener question (23:51), Under the Radar (26:52), Numbers (27:36)You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here.Our podcast is written by Isaac Saul and produced by Trevor Eichhorn. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, Ari Weitzman, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo.--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tanglenews/message Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we are going to be talking about
                                         
                                         the protests in China, which are a pretty big deal, not just in China, but of course,
                                         
                                         all across the world. Before we jump in, though, I want to acknowledge that today is Giving Tuesday,
                                         
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                                         All right, so with that out of the way, we'll start off today with our quick hits.
                                         
                                         First up, Representative Donald McKeachin, the Democrat from Virginia,
                                         
                                         unexpectedly died of colorectal cancer at the age of 61 yesterday, just weeks after being re-elected.
                                         
    
                                         Number two, the shooter in the Buffalo, New York supermarket mass shooting has pled guilty to
                                         
                                         terrorism and murder charges. Ten people died in the shooting, all of whom were black.
                                         
                                         Number three, for the first time since 1984, Hawaii's Mauna Loa volcano started erupting.
                                         
                                         It's the largest active volcano in the world, but so far the lava is not threatening any communities.
                                         
                                         Number four, Elon Musk says Apple has threatened to remove Twitter from the App Store.
                                         
                                         Number five, this afternoon the Senate is expected to vote on codifying same-sex marriage
                                         
                                         into law. If the bill passes, it will go back to the House for a final vote and may end up
                                         
                                         on President Biden's desk by the end of the week.
                                         
    
                                         Extraordinary protests and outrage are spreading across china over xi jinping's strict covid
                                         
                                         lockdown policies as the world grows more concerned about a recession and since china
                                         
                                         is the world's number one manufacturer the protests were triggered by a deadly fire thursday
                                         
                                         at an apartment building in a room chi the capital of the far western province, Xinjiang.
                                         
                                         Tonight, acts of defiance not seen in a generation. Massive protests spreading across China.
                                         
                                         Take a look at this tonight, why they're now holding up these blank sheets of paper,
                                         
                                         the message these protesters are trying to send to the world.
                                         
                                         It is a symbol of anti-censorship.
                                         
    
                                         It is a symbol of anti-censorship.
                                         
                                         Over the last week, unprecedented protests against COVID-19 lockdowns have been breaking out in China.
                                         
                                         The protests are erupting in major cities and universities across the country and being shared on social media platforms like TikTok,
                                         
                                         an unusual sign of unbridled public anger toward the Chinese government.
                                         
                                         Demonstrations happened over the weekend in China's largest cities like Beijing, population 21 million, and Shanghai, population 26 million,
                                         
                                         as well as Nanjing, population 8.5 million, Wuhan, population 11 million, and Urumqi,
                                         
                                         population 3.5 million, the capital of Xinjiang. The protests appear to have started in Arunqi on Friday after a deadly fire broke out
                                         
                                         in an apartment complex in an area where residents have been under lockdown for more than 100 days.
                                         
    
                                         Residents flooded social media with comments alleging that the COVID restrictions had delayed
                                         
                                         an emergency response to the fire, which contributed to the deaths of 10 people,
                                         
                                         including three children. It is not rare to see open displays of protests
                                         
                                         in China, though they are typically small and focused on local grievances. What is unusual
                                         
                                         is multiple protests occurring across several major cities and focused on the policies of the
                                         
                                         national government. President Xi has overseen a crackdown on political dissent over the last
                                         
                                         decade. Many dissidents and protesters are sure to face prison time and will be easily identified thanks to the vast surveillance structure China has created in
                                         
                                         their major cities. In Shanghai, China's most populous city, protesters chanted things like
                                         
    
                                         we want freedom and unlock Xinjiang, unlock all of China. Some even called for President
                                         
                                         Xi Jinping to step down. Thousands of social media videos from across the country have shown
                                         
                                         protesters clogging roadways and shouting for lockdowns to be lifted. The slogan,
                                         
                                         I want to see a movie, has become a rallying cry for grassroots protesters emphasizing a desire to
                                         
                                         return to normal life. China has implemented a zero-COVID policy throughout the pandemic
                                         
                                         that requires stringent lockdowns anytime an outbreak occurs. Unlike
                                         
                                         lockdowns in the United States, which relied mostly on convincing the public to stay home
                                         
                                         as a matter of safety, lockdowns in China have involved strictly enforced curfews and limits
                                         
    
                                         on travel. People who test positive for COVID-19 are often isolated and sent to quarantine centers
                                         
                                         where they can recover, while government officials and police have even resorted to sealing the doors
                                         
                                         of apartment buildings to keep people locked inside. Many residents in major cities
                                         
                                         must take regular coronavirus tests and have their movements surveilled in the name of preventing
                                         
                                         outbreaks. Despite that, on Saturday, officials in China reported an all-time high of nearly
                                         
                                         40,000 new cases. Virologists suspect the latest outbreak is because of low levels of natural immunity among the 1.4 billion Chinese residents, as well as less effective domestically produced
                                         
                                         coronavirus vaccines that the Chinese government has distributed. Markets dipped on Monday,
                                         
                                         a sign investors expect this wave of COVID-19 to again disrupt supply chains overseas.
                                         
    
                                         Protests against the government come just a month after China's Congress extended
                                         
                                         President Xi to his third five-year term. Xi had amended the Chinese constitution in 2018
                                         
                                         to remove the two-term limit, extending his authoritarian rule over the country indefinitely.
                                         
                                         The outbreak of protests across the country appeared to be the most significant protest
                                         
                                         against his leadership since he came to power in 2012. On Monday, China clamped down
                                         
                                         on the protests with police flooding sites across the country and arresting demonstrators.
                                         
                                         Simultaneously, online censorship ramped up, including China-directed bots that spammed
                                         
                                         Twitter searches for Chinese cities with explicit content to overwhelm the platform's moderation
                                         
    
                                         team. While the crackdown ensued, health authorities simultaneously relaxed some
                                         
                                         COVID-19 restrictions. Protesters in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Britain, Japan, the United States,
                                         
                                         and Canada have also hit the streets in solidarity with Chinese demonstrators.
                                         
                                         Today, we're going to take a look at some reactions from the right and the left, and then my take. First up, I'll point out some agreement.
                                         
                                         As you'll hear in a minute, many on both sides of the aisle support the protesters in China,
                                         
                                         hoping that President Xi resists a harsh crackdown and criticizes China's zero-COVID policy as an untenable and ineffective solution to the current pandemic.
                                         
                                         First up, we'll start with what the right is saying. Many on the right criticize the
                                         
                                         Chinese Communist Party, arguing that protests are about more than just COVID-19. Some say the
                                         
    
                                         Chinese people want democracy and the freedoms that
                                         
                                         many Westerners enjoy. Others argue that zero COVID was always unachievable and untenable.
                                         
                                         In the New York Post, Miles Yu said the protests in China aren't just about COVID-19.
                                         
                                         They are about a dictatorship. Last Thursday, a street protester in the hinterland metropolis
                                         
                                         Chongqing eloquently addressed a cheering crowd. There is only one type of disease in the world, lack of freedom and poverty. We have it both in
                                         
                                         China. After he quoted Patrick Henry, give me liberty or give me death repeatedly, the police
                                         
                                         tried to arrest him, only to be repulsed by an angry crowd who promptly overwhelmed the fully
                                         
                                         armed police and rescued the protester, Yu said. This is the source of both the Chinese
                                         
    
                                         regime's draconian conduct and the protests that erupted this past weekend. Neither is really about
                                         
                                         COVID. It's about the battle between communism and freedom. Mao's draconian great leap forward
                                         
                                         led to the deaths of more than 40 million Chinese people. Xi's draconian COVID zero policy threatens
                                         
                                         to do the same. They are motivated by a purely
                                         
                                         totalitarian ideology, which assumes not only the complete malleability of nature,
                                         
                                         but the utter infallibility and invincibility of the party that could easily destroy nature
                                         
                                         and science, Yu wrote. Blinded by this radical utopian vision, the CCP is consistently callous
                                         
                                         toward its people's well-being, but this callousness has traditionally impacted more on migrant workers and the rural poor.
                                         
    
                                         This time, the party's all-encompassing COVID-0 lockdowns have affected the property-owning
                                         
                                         and educated middle class and the rich, and this brings with it unintended consequences.
                                         
                                         Millions of Chinese people across the nation, from all sections of the repressed country,
                                         
                                         are now willing to risk imprisonment, torture, and even death to stand up to their oppressors. In National Review,
                                         
                                         Jim Garrity asked bluntly, is Xi Jinping dumb? There are good reasons to fear China, Garrity said.
                                         
                                         The country has the largest standing military in the world and the world's largest navy.
                                         
                                         It is dramatically expanding its nuclear arsenal, its human rights record reads like a
                                         
                                         demon's resume, and it's currently committing genocide, but somehow its economic, diplomatic,
                                         
    
                                         and cultural power is so strong that the regime has defenders in the West who shrug off the ongoing
                                         
                                         use of concentration camps. The country has made little secret of its desire to conquer, or in its
                                         
                                         own words, unify with Taiwan by force. And in the last few years,
                                         
                                         you may have noticed that its virology labs don't seem all that safe and secure.
                                         
                                         But for all of the menacing, saber-rattling relentlessness and ruthlessness,
                                         
                                         Chinese ruler Xi Jinping and his surrounding yes-men also seem, well, kind of dumb sometimes.
                                         
                                         If not dumb, then they're prone to sticking with a decision or policy that isn't working,
                                         
                                         even as the evidence of how that decision or policy can't work piles up and the situation gets worse and worse, he said. The unsustainability and abusiveness of the draconian zero-COVID
                                         
    
                                         policies was self-evident from the first videos on social media of Wuhan officials welding the
                                         
                                         doors of apartment buildings shut, locking the residents inside during the first coronavirus outbreak. The Chinese Communist Party's zero-COVID policies envision the entire
                                         
                                         country as a prison, themselves as the wardens and guards and all other civilians as prisoners
                                         
                                         until further notice. The people who said zero-COVID doesn't work were right. The people
                                         
                                         who said zero-COVID works were wrong. We need a giant flashing neon sign in Times Square to ensure that
                                         
                                         everyone knows this and that no one forgets it. The Wall Street Journal editorial board called it
                                         
                                         China's revolt against zero COVID. COVID possesses a particular threat in China because the regime
                                         
                                         has advertised zero COVID as an example of the superiority of its communist system over messy
                                         
    
                                         Western democracy, the board said. The policy has kept the number of COVID deaths low
                                         
                                         compared to the West, if you trust China's official statistics. But the lockdowns haven't
                                         
                                         been able to control COVID, only delay its spread. Nearly three years of lockdowns means the Chinese
                                         
                                         public has far less natural immunity. In their blinker nationalism, Chinese leaders refuse to
                                         
                                         import Western mRNA vaccines. The domestic Sinovac vaccine offers
                                         
                                         less protection as the coronavirus mutates. China's elderly are especially vulnerable,
                                         
                                         and there is too little hospital space to accommodate seriously ill patients if the
                                         
                                         country eases COVID restrictions, the board said. The southern city of Guangzhou said this month it
                                         
    
                                         is building quarantine facilities and hospital beds for 250,000 people. Westerners who
                                         
                                         admire Chinese stability and central planning might consider that the government has had three
                                         
                                         years of COVID to prepare the hospital system. Based on Charles Yu's award-winning book,
                                         
                                         Interior Chinatown follows the story of Willis Wu, a background character trapped in a police
                                         
                                         procedural who dreams about a world beyond Chinatown. When he inadvertently becomes a witness to a crime, Willis begins to unravel a criminal
                                         
                                         web, his family's buried history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown
                                         
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                                         Rest assured, party commissioners in Beijing won't wait in line for an intensive care bed.
                                         
                                         Mr. Xi and the party will be ruthless in putting down protests if they continue.
                                         
    
                                         The party's security apparatus will use its monitoring ability and facial recognition to identify the participants, and many if not all of the
                                         
                                         demonstrators will be arrested in the days ahead. Many will simply disappear.
                                         
                                         Alright, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying.
                                         
                                         Many on the left worry about how Xi will react, but hope the protests continue.
                                         
                                         Some criticize the zero COVID policy, saying it is no longer a tenable solution.
                                         
                                         Others say Xi faces a major dilemma on how to handle the protests.
                                         
                                         Jianli Yang, a former Tiananmen Square protester, said the
                                         
                                         protests have exceeded her expectations. The demonstrations began by expressing rage over
                                         
    
                                         harsh zero-COVID policies, but the protesters' demands quickly evolved into a movement demanding
                                         
                                         broader freedoms. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom from the dictates of the
                                         
                                         Communist Party, he wrote. I was there when the Chinese Communist Party sent in troops to gun down the protesters, and I fear that history can repeat itself today.
                                         
                                         The world should not underestimate the determination of Xi and the CCP to remain in
                                         
                                         power. The regime will make full use of all the resources at its disposal, including surveillance
                                         
                                         technology, the police, and the intelligence services. For that reason, the international community should make use of all the tools available to it and to support
                                         
                                         pro-democracy forces and to deter the Beijing regime from resorting to force. We hope that
                                         
                                         the protests will eventually yield the changes we seek. I see at least four conditions that must be
                                         
    
                                         simultaneously met for there to be a chance of achieving meaningful change in China, Yang said.
                                         
                                         First, the people must be strongly discontented with the political status quo. Second, a viable democratic
                                         
                                         opposition must arise. Third, a rift has to occur within the leadership of the CCP government.
                                         
                                         Fourth, the international community will have to believe that China's democratic opposition is
                                         
                                         viable and will opt to support it. Condition 1 has already been met. Condition 2 remains a
                                         
                                         dream for the moment, while Condition 3 could yet occur if the protests continue.
                                         
                                         In Bloomberg, Matthew Brooker said Xi had a major dilemma, crackdown or placate. It's unlikely a
                                         
                                         coincidence that frustration bubbled over just as China has begun to ease back on some of its
                                         
    
                                         most draconian restrictions. Earlier this month, the government released a list of 20 guidelines designed to lessen the economic and social impact,
                                         
                                         such as cutting the isolation periods for close contacts, Brooker wrote. The relaxation didn't
                                         
                                         meet the public's expectations, perhaps due partly to overstretched local officials failing to
                                         
                                         implement directives. This illustrates the dilemma for an authoritarian system that decides to loosen
                                         
                                         its grip.
                                         
                                         Like a crack opening in a dam, the suppressed pressure builds quickly.
                                         
                                         The result is a perilous situation to which the government will need to respond quickly.
                                         
                                         A swift adjustment that allows people on the ground to feel the promised easing of controls may be enough to defuse this outburst.
                                         
    
                                         The longer the unrest goes on, the more it spreads, and above all,
                                         
                                         the more overtly it targets the party and Xi, the greater the chance of a severe crackdown that would deal a blow to
                                         
                                         an already weakened economy and further damage investor confidence, Brooker said.
                                         
                                         Xi's instincts are to be uncompromising in dealing with any challenge to the party's grip on power.
                                         
                                         Just look at Hong Kong, which has had the freedom it was promised it could keep for 50 years
                                         
                                         substantially quashed since anti-government demonstrations in 2019. The risk is that a
                                         
                                         harsh approach generates its own reaction, trapping the country in a loop of escalating
                                         
                                         repression and resistance. The Guardian editorial board called it an extraordinary outpouring of
                                         
    
                                         discontent. At first, China's coronavirus strategy allowed most people to get on with life as usual,
                                         
                                         while other countries struggled with repeated lockdowns or high death tolls, or both.
                                         
                                         But it has long been clear that elimination is not feasible,
                                         
                                         and a policy now in its third year is causing increasing frustration and economic damage,
                                         
                                         leading to a growing number of local COVID-related protests, the board said.
                                         
                                         Chinese audiences watching the World Cup noted unmasked crowds
                                         
                                         celebrating and realized that plenty of places, not just the reckless United States, were living
                                         
                                         happily without such stringent controls. Then Kim reports that 10 people, including children,
                                         
    
                                         had been killed in a blaze while under lockdown in Xinjiang. Video showed a fire engine vainly
                                         
                                         trying to spray the building from a distance. Officials initially took a relatively hands-off approach, with a few detentions rather than a sweeping crackdown. Extensive surveillance
                                         
                                         makes later retribution straightforward. But if increased censorship and police presence don't
                                         
                                         see these protests off, worse may follow. The response in Xinjiang is likely to be harder than
                                         
                                         in prosperous Shanghai, the board noted. Those calling for looser controls can expect more lenience than those shouting opposed dictatorship. At the local level especially,
                                         
                                         there may be piecemeal concessions. The party does not rely solely on repression and propaganda,
                                         
                                         as potent as they are, but also on recognizing people's needs and interests and meeting some
                                         
                                         of them, even if belatedly and partially. Yet it has increasingly relied on toughness in recent years.
                                         
    
                                         Alright, that is it for the left and right are saying, which brings us to my take.
                                         
                                         I think it's a beautiful thing. Whenever I flex my American exceptionalism muscles,
                                         
                                         a beautiful thing. Whenever I flex my American exceptionalism muscles, I'm keen on pointing to other countries that even in 2022 have many fewer freedoms than we enjoy here in the United States.
                                         
                                         China is one of those countries. This is not to say life in China is bad or worse than the U.S.
                                         
                                         in many ways. For many people, I'm sure it's better. But it is to say that if you enjoy
                                         
                                         criticizing your government, choosing your political leaders, or expressing yourself publicly, there are few worse places
                                         
                                         to do it than cities like Beijing. Which, of course, makes what the Chinese protesters are
                                         
                                         doing all the more admirable. For the last three years, they've been living through actual
                                         
    
                                         lockdowns, the kinds of draconian COVID-19 policies that were the stuff of American nightmares.
                                         
                                         Chinese residents were
                                         
                                         actually locked inside their homes, actually forced into isolation camps when they were sick,
                                         
                                         and actually forced to take vaccines. None of this was ever going to be tenable. I sincerely
                                         
                                         doubt China's public COVID-19 numbers are accurate, but even assuming they are, this outcome was
                                         
                                         predictable. At some point, the world was going to reopen, and a zero-COVID policy would mean a population with far less immunity than the ones around it. Say what you
                                         
                                         want about the failures of Moderna and Pfizer, but they are significantly better than the Sinovac
                                         
                                         China forced onto many of its citizens. If China had used Western vaccines, or focused on
                                         
    
                                         vaccinating the elderly, it may have been able to come out of its current posture with less chaos. But it didn't, so it can't, at least not without the outbreaks and high-risk infections
                                         
                                         we are seeing now. This isn't to paint a picture of a citizenry totally in opposition to the zero
                                         
                                         COVID policy. Plenty of people outside big cities can see the upside clearly. I'm sure there are
                                         
                                         residents inside China's biggest cities who are grateful one million people haven't died from or with COVID-19 like they have in countries like ours. But it is to say that the unrest, the
                                         
                                         outbreak, the tension, it was all predictable. Every single person who has hit the streets in
                                         
                                         protests is putting themselves at risk of imprisonment, fines, or worse. Whether Xi cracks
                                         
                                         down on those protesters is not really a question. What's curious is whether he will do it publicly,
                                         
                                         boldly, and violently, or whether it will happen retroactively and discreetly. Those crackdowns
                                         
    
                                         already appear to be ramping up, with a wave of arrests on Monday and one BBC reporter who was
                                         
                                         arrested and beaten over the weekend. My fervent hope for the Chinese demonstrators is that they
                                         
                                         get what they want, an easing of zero-COVID policies. With any luck, a successful demonstration
                                         
                                         that changes the public policy will lend credence to the viability of a democratic opposition in
                                         
                                         China. That is a longer-term, fanciful goal. But at the very least, even if they aren't allowed to
                                         
                                         criticize their government or hit the streets in opposition, the people of China should be able to
                                         
                                         leave their homes and enjoy the basic freedoms of a day-to-day life. Until then, protesters will and should keep the pressure on. If you are listening to this from
                                         
                                         China, shoot me an email, isaac at readtangle.com. I'd love to hear from you and what you're thinking.
                                         
    
                                         All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This was more of
                                         
                                         a statement from Michael in Wiley, Texas, but I got a few similar notes like this, so I wanted
                                         
                                         to address it. Michael said, the FBI defines a mass shooting as one where four or more people
                                         
                                         were killed, not just shot. This definition greatly decreases the number of mass shootings
                                         
                                         compared to the
                                         
                                         number you quote in the November 28th edition. The gun control advocates prefer the other
                                         
                                         definition because it helps them sensationalize mass shootings. For fact-based commentary on
                                         
                                         firearms ownership, mass shootings, and other firearm-related crimes that affect the gun
                                         
    
                                         control laws, I highly recommend the Crime Prevention Research Center site founded by John
                                         
                                         Lott. Okay, Michael, so this isn't a question, but it is a similar comment to some of the other
                                         
                                         comments I got in response to yesterday's newsletter, so I did want to address it.
                                         
                                         To be blunt, I think the definition I use is a lot better than yours. For starters,
                                         
                                         just in case there's an implication here that I was somehow misleading our readers or listeners,
                                         
                                         I was clear yesterday that my definition of a mass shooting was the number of people shot, not the number of people killed. That's what the Gun Violence Archive uses,
                                         
                                         and I think it is a good benchmark. I'm not sure if you have ever been shot. I can't say that I
                                         
                                         have. But I imagine the impact of being the victim of a mass shooting and surviving it is a pretty
                                         
    
                                         life-altering event. The argument that we should limit the definition of mass shootings in America
                                         
                                         to the ones that actually kill four or more people is quite specious to me. I'd argue passionately
                                         
                                         that surviving being shot in a mass shooting event should not mean you don't count in the
                                         
                                         tally of people who were victims of mass shootings. In fact, I suggest there's a
                                         
                                         better argument that people who witnessed a mass shooting without being shot should be counted as
                                         
                                         victims than there is that people who survived being shot shouldn't. As for Lott, I do agree
                                         
                                         that a lot of his work in this space is valuable. It's good context to add. But he also has a much
                                         
                                         less reliable dataset than the one I am citing. This is pretty easy to check. For
                                         
    
                                         instance, he cites just four mass shootings in 2022, which, as you note, are supposed to be
                                         
                                         defined by four or more people being killed. But when I looked at his data set, he doesn't even
                                         
                                         include several of the deadliest shootings so far this year. There is no listing of the Club Q
                                         
                                         shooting, which is now over a week old, where five people were killed, nor does he include the Walmart shooting in Chesapeake, Virginia, where six people were killed. Nor does he include shootings
                                         
                                         in Highland Park, Illinois, where seven were dead, Heartland, Wisconsin, where six were dead,
                                         
                                         Sacramento, California, where six were dead, or Raleigh, North Carolina, where five were killed.
                                         
                                         These are just a few from the last couple months that I briefly cross-checked and did not find in
                                         
                                         his dataset. In other words,
                                         
    
                                         lots of work on gun and crime and politics is often worthwhile, but his datasets on mass shootings are not as reliable as the ones I am using. And I find the idea that a mass shooting must
                                         
                                         include four people dying and not four people being shot very unconvincing.
                                         
                                         Alright, that is it for our reader question, which brings us to our Under the Radar section.
                                         
                                         Last year, the assassination of Haiti's president set off a new wave of terror across the Caribbean
                                         
                                         nation. Conditions have plunged to horrifying new lows, with gangs carrying out extreme violence
                                         
                                         in the streets. Fearing that a humanitarian crisis could spur a mass migration to the U.S.,
                                         
                                         some top Biden administration officials are pushing to send a multinational armed force
                                         
                                         to the country. The United States doesn't want its own troops included in that force, though,
                                         
    
                                         and they are struggling to convince any other nations to lead the way.
                                         
                                         The New York Times has this story, and there is a link to it in today's episode description.
                                         
                                         and there's a link to it in today's episode description.
                                         
                                         Next up is our numbers section. The number of COVID-19 cases on Monday in China is 40,347. The number of fatalities from COVID-19 that China has reported since the beginning of the pandemic
                                         
                                         is 5,233. The number of COVID-19 cases with symptoms that China has reported as of
                                         
                                         November 28th was 315,248. The total population of China is 1.412 billion people. The age of
                                         
                                         President Xi is 69, and the years he has served as the General secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, is now attend.
                                         
                                         All right, last but not least, I have a nice day section. This is actually just a reminder to support Double Trellis Food Initiative, DTFI. Remember, you can donate to DTFI directly or
                                         
    
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                                         Tuesday push will go to Feeding the Hungry in Philadelphia and helping support a job training
                                         
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                                         Giving Tuesday. We will be right back here same time tomorrow. Have a good one. Peace. and our social media manager, Magdalena Bokova, who designed our logo.
                                         
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                                         The flu remains a serious disease. Last season, over 102,000 influenza cases have been reported across Canada,
                                         
                                         which is nearly double the historic average of 52,000 cases.
                                         
                                         What can you do this flu season?
                                         
                                         Talk to your pharmacist or doctor about getting a flu shot.
                                         
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