Tangle - The shootings in Grand Blanc, Michigan, and Dallas, Texas.

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

On Sunday, an attacker drove a pickup truck into a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) chapel in Grand Blanc, Michigan, subsequently opening fire on churchgoers and setting the building on fire. At least four people were killed and eight others wounded, and the suspect was killed by law enforcement responding to the scene. Grand Blanc police confirmedMonday afternoon that all churchgoers had been accounted for, and it does not expect to find more victims. Officials have not identified a possible motive for the attack, but local reports and interviews have suggested that the suspect — a 40-year-old former Marine — harbored ill will toward the Church. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating the event as an act of targeted violence. Ad-free podcasts are here!To listen to this podcast ad-free, and to enjoy our subscriber only premium content, go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, our “Under the Radar” story ⁠here and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey:  Do you think political violence will continue to increase? Let us know.Disagree? That's okay. My opinion is just one of many. Write in and let us know why, and we'll consider publishing your feedback.Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by Audrey Moorehead and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Lindsey Knuth, Kendall White, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. from executive producer isaac saul this is tangle a good morning good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the tangle a place where you get views from across the political spectrum some independent thinking and a little bit of our take. I am back again as your host. This is senior editor Will Keback filling in for Isaac this week while he is abroad in Italy. Today's topic is a heavy one. We're going to be talking about two recent mass shootings here in the United States. Last Wednesday shooting at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Facility in Dallas, Texas that killed one detainee who was in custody and injured two others. Also, the shooting and arson attack,

at the church in Michigan on Sunday. Associate editor Audrey Moorhead is going to give her take today. Audrey writes personally as a person of faith and gives her perspective on how the shooting on Sunday in particular affected her. She's also going to consider how these events fit into the rising tide of political violence that we've discussed, unfortunately,

at length in recent weeks and months in Tangle. I think she's got a great perspective and we're excited to share it with you. For now, I'm going to hand it over to John to read today's quick hits, introduce the story, what the left and right are saying. I'll be back on in a bit to read the reader question, and you'll hear from Audrey herself for my take. All right, John, over to you.

Thanks, Will, and welcome, everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, President Donald Trump published a 20-point peace proposal for the war in Gaza. The plan would require Hamas to return all living and dead Israeli hostages within 72 hours of a ceasefire. It would also create a Board of Peace to oversee the rebuilding of Gaza. Hamas is reportedly leaning toward accepting the plan and will give its official response to Egyptian and Katari mediators on Wednesday. Number two, President Trump and Democratic leaders did not reach an agreement on a possible deal to fund the government ahead of Wednesday night's midnight funding deadline. Democrats are seeking to increase health care spending and reverse Medicaid cuts in return for supporting a Republican-led seven-week funding extension.

Number three, YouTube agreed to pay $24.5 million to settle a 2021 lawsuit brought by President Trump, who sued the platform for banning his account after the January 6th, 2021 Capitol riots. Number four, the Health and Human Services Department initiated the process of blocking Harvard University from receiving future research grants, also known as debarment, as a result of a previous finding that the school failed to adequately address the harassment of Jewish students on campus. And number five, Defense Secretary Pete Hegstaff and President Trump addressed a gathering of U.S. generals and admirals. Hegstaff outlined a plan to overhaul the culture of the military, including new fitness standards. This morning, around the clock search for a motive after authorities say in Iraq war veteran unleashed a barrage of bullets during a packed service at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and set the building ablaze in Grand Blank Michigan, an aerial view showing what little is left of the church. You could hear probably the sirens behind me. Again, tons of police activity out here as folks raised to the scene.

As I'm sure Sean just reported, we're talking about three people shot who were in. in ICE custody. A male shooter on the rooftop shot himself when approached by law enforcement. On Sunday, an attacker drove a pickup truck into a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Chapel in Grand Blanc, Michigan, subsequently opening fire on churchgoers and setting the building on fire. At least four people were killed and eight others wounded, and the suspect was killed by law enforcement responding to the scene. Grand Blanc police confirmed Monday afternoon that all churchgoers had been accounted for, and it does not expect to find more victims. Officials have not identified a possible motive for the attack,

but local reports and interviews have suggested that the suspect, a 40-year-old former Marine, harbored ill-will toward the church. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating the event as an act of targeted violence. A note that due to the well-documented contagion effect, Tangle does not name shooters or suspects in high-profile attacks. According to authorities, the attacker drove a pickup truck into the front of chapel while services were underway, then exited the vehicle and began shooting at the hundreds of worshippers inside. Law enforcement also believes he set the building on fire using

gasoline as an accelerant, and investigators reported that they discovered suspected explosive devices at the scene. On Monday, local city council candidate Chris Johns said he believes he interacted with the suspect while canvassing less than a week prior to the attack. Johns described the man as extremely friendly, but said he sharply criticized the LDS Church, and described the religion as the Antichrist. The FBI has taken over the investigation and said that they have interviewed over 100 people so far but are still working to determine a motive.

Separately, on Wednesday, a shooter opened fire at a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Field Office in Dallas, Texas, killing two detainees and injuring another as they were arriving at the facility in a transport vehicle. The shooter later died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The Department of Homeland Security reported that agents found shell cases, inscribed with anti-ice messages near the suspect. Although the attacker shot ICE detainees,

the DHS described the shooting as an attack on ice officers, which the Dallas FBI later corroborated. Vice President J.D. Vance claimed on Wednesday that he had reviewed evidence that shows that the shooter was a left-wing extremist who was politically motivated to go after people who are enforcing our border. Today, we'll share reactions to the shootings from the left and the right. Then, Associate Editor Audrey Moorhead will give her take. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. All right. First up, let's start with the point of agreement. Both sides mourn the lives lost in the shootings and share concern over the spate of high-profile attacks across the U.S. All right, and now on to what the left is saying. Many on the left condemn the Dallas shooting and rising tide of political violence. Some criticized the Trump administration for hiding information about the shooting that doesn't fit its narrative.

Others say lawmakers must renew their efforts to pass gun control legislation. The Washington Post editorial board said, The ICE shooting shows how easily political violence boomerangs. A shooter at a Dallas Immigration and Customs Enforcement Facility on Wednesday was apparently targeting law enforcement but shot three detainees instead. The horrific episode serves as an allegory for how politically motivated violence almost never achieves its intended goal, the board wrote. Something similar happened in Atlanta last month when an anti-vaccine shooter fired hundreds of bullets at six buildings at the headquarters of these Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

His rampage killed a responding officer who had nothing to do with the vaccine. vaccines. Political violence, like school shootings, risks inspiring copycats unless forceful steps are taken. The ice facility where Wednesday's shooting happened faced a bomb threat last month. Just two months ago, Patel said an individual ambushed officers at a nearby ice facility, the board said. No one who perpetrates political violence deserves even the slightest sympathy, regardless of their ideological background or motives. This is essential to prevent attacks from being effective. In the Philadelphia Inquirer, Will Bunch wrote about what the Trump regime doesn't want you to know about the Dallas ice shooting. The blood hadn't yet dried after a

deadly Wednesday morning sniper attack on the U.S. immigration and customs enforcement detention site in Dallas when top government officials started flooding the zone with the story they wanted to tell the public about it, Bunch said. So often these days, what the Trump regime says is highly predictable, but what's much more revealing is what it doesn't say. The thought It impairs politicians effortlessly and often mindlessly spout most mass shooting victims were few and far between, despite speedy news reports that one man had been killed by the Dallas sniper and two were critically wounded. Even worse was what the Trump regime didn't want you to know about the three detained immigrants who were the victims of the Dallas ICE shooting. Their names,

Bunchroot? The victim's identities aren't the only part of the story that ICE wants to sweep under the rug. Only under questioning did officials concede that the detainees were handcuffed and shackled and thus struggled unsuccessfully to flee when the shots began raining down. It's a foundational lie that immigrants who came to the U.S. seeking a better life are not human beings, or at least not worthy of human dignity, even when they are unjustly murdered or disabled by a madman, leaving their wives, children, and mothers to ask why. In the Detroit Free Press, Bonnie A. Perry called on Michigan lawmakers to act on gun violence.

The September 28th shooting and fire at the Church of Jesus Christ, of Latter-day Saints congregation in Grand Blanc is reprehensible. We can presume that the shooter was angry. Clearly, he was violent. There also may have been mental health issues involved, Perry said. But what we know with complete and absolute certainty is that he had ready access to an assault-style rifle. The availability of firearms makes this crime commonplace

in the United States of America and unthinkable in almost every other country in the world. Right now, the Michigan legislature is debating how much to cut from gun violence prevention and mental health programs, when we should be talking about how much more money we can invest in saving lives. What will it take for us as people of faith and people of goodwill to come together and create a common-sense gun culture? What will it take? Faith in God, who reconciles all people. And it will take you. It will take you calling your legislators.

All right, that is it for what the left is saying, which brings us to what the right is saying. Many on the right see the Dallas shooting as the result of increasingly heated rhetoric about ice. Some say the shooting is another example of rising left-wing violence. Others note the increasing rate of attacks on places of worship. The Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote about the anti-ice shooting in Dallas. Investigators said they had discovered a handwritten note. Hopefully, the suspect wrote, this will give ICE agents real terror to think, is there a sniper with AP rounds on that roof?

AP presumably references the armor-piercing bullets. The authorities say that the suspect also compared the work of ICE employees to human trafficking, the board said. The Dallas shooting is another reminder to politicians and the press of the need to lower the rhetorical temperature. Americans want vigorous debate on the issues, but opponents of President Trump's deportation policies and ice raids can criticize them without portraying federal agents as fascist members of a Gestapo.

A friend recalled the suspect as passionate about the plight of illegal migrants in a conversation years ago. Like other recent killers, he wrote a message on his ammunition for law enforcement to find the board route. The public will learn more about the suspect in the investigation to come, but it isn't hard to envision him as a troubled young man, the kind prone to act out, seeing warnings about a rising fascism and taking them seriously. It isn't too soon for politicians to quit sending such messages to unstable listeners. In National Review, Jim Garrity called the Dallas shooting another case of left-wing violence. Considering how quickly a false narrative that a right-wing lunatic had killed Charlie Kirk's spread, I wonder if authorities were eager to fill the vacuum with clear facts about the crime and likely motive,

Gerrity said. While everyone has the right to criticize our immigration policies and ICE is not above criticism, you start to wonder whether months and months of calling ICE agents fascist and jack-booted thugs are convincing left-wing nut jobs that this really is the time for violent resistance to the U.S. government. It's not hard to find figures on the left arguing that ICE agents deserve no privacy. I'm not particularly a big fan of federal agents wearing masks as they perform their duties, but it's undeniable that there are people out there who would like to harm ICE agents, who thus have a reasonable concern that exposure of their faces might make them easier targets, Garrity wrote.

Considering how many progressives chose the more pleasant alternative realities, where Kirk was killed by an ultramagga or a white supremacist gang hit, I think we'll see a lot of denial that this perpetrator was doing so in the name of the left as well. In the Deseret News, Norman Hill said, Another Week, another violent act. In the aftermath of a horrific scene in Grand Blanc, Michigan, following a gunman ramming his truck into a Latter-day St. Chapel this past Sunday, setting it on fire and shooting at members as they exited the building,

people across the country are trying to make sense of an utterly senseless act. No explanation will ever be sufficient, Hill wrote. It is not the first time senseless acts of violence have occurred this year in a place of worship. Two children were killed in an attack prior to a back-to-school Catholic Mass in Minnesota on August 27th. Two women were fatally shot in Lexington, Kentucky at a Baptist church on July 13th. There are plenty of things which reasonable people can disagree on these days from sports teams to music to politics to religion. But when we cross a fundamental line between expressing differences respectfully and doing so in a way that inflicts harm, physical, emotional, or personal. We relinquish both our dignity

and our humanity, Hill said. Regardless of our differences, we all benefit when we stand up for each other. It preserves our own dignity and protects others' dignity. It makes us a community, not merely a group of strangers. All right, let's head over to Audrey for her take. I'm Associate Editor Audrey Moorhead, and this is my take. When I think about the two targeted shootings perpetrated in the space of a week, I can't help but feel a new sense of despair come over me. As uncomfortable as it is to write this, Sunday's attack during a church service has personally disturbed me more than the attack in Dallas.

Attacks on places of worship, whether an African Methodist Episcopalian Bible study, a Shabbat service, a Jammua, a Catholic Mass, or a Latter-day Saint-Sacrament meeting, always sit closer to home. As a Christian, the unity of worship is an essential part of my faith and a peaceful and sacred experience. To hear of that peace being shattered by senseless destruction, especially on a day already marked by mourning in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after the death of its president, makes me feel the despair of violence all the more intimately, even if I don't share their exact beliefs. I think worship shootings

hit me this hard because they feel so much more personal. School shootings, for example, are almost always purely senseless acts carried out by mentally ill people with access to extraordinarily destructive weapons, with neither rhyme nor reason nor ideological motivation. The average school shooter seems to act out of suicidal anger, pure destructive nihilism, or desire for attention and infamy, which is why we don't name shooters entangle. But events like the Michigan shooting carried out against a specific religious group are often motivated by different principles. Rather than desiring the destruction of life itself, these shooters envisaged themselves as acting righteously against the wrong kind of people or beliefs. In the 2007 Colorado

shootings at a youth with a mission training center and New Life Church, a former congregant hoped to kill as many Christians as possible, blaming them for most of the problems in the world. In the 2015 Charleston Church shooting, a young white supremacist believed he might ignite a race war by murdering black worshipers. In the 2018 Tree of Life synagogue shooting, of a ruling anti-Semite and believer of the great replacement conspiracy theory, wanted to stop the Jews from importing foreigners to replace white people. Based on local reporting, Sunday's shooter may have had similar motivations. He apparently expressed anti-LDS sentiment to a local city council candidate, calling Latter-day Saints the Antichrist. The candidate, Chris Johns, said the shooter's view resembled commonplace anti-LDS rhetoric

on social media, and other friends and acquaintances of the shooter later corroborated this account of his sentiments. We certainly shouldn't discount this possible motive. According to a February Pew Research Center study, a quarter of Americans held somewhat or very unfavorable feelings toward Latter-day Saints, and nearly every religious group, including most other Christian groups, feel negatively about them, despite their positive reception of other religions as a group. Further reporting has also suggested the shooter was a Trump supporter, but there's no evidence connecting his political leanings to his anti-LDS sentiment. At the same time, we must not overrate the importance of the first available evidence,

and the shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas shows why. Hours after the ICE shooting, Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Kash Patel posted a picture of one of the bullet casings engraved with anti-ice. From this, Patel, Vice President J.D. Vance, and other right-wing figures declared that the shooter must have been motivated by left-wing ideology. But subsequent reporting cast the ICE shooter's motivation, into question. The shooter's online presence doesn't reveal a coherent political ideology or even a strong interest in politics. In interviews, his former friends doubted that he harbored sincere

political opinions passionately enough to motivate such an atrocity in the name of ideology. That evidence is pretty convincing to me. I find it extremely plausible that the shooter wasn't motivated as much by political sentiment as by pure nihilism. But even if the ICE shooter wasn't deeply politically motivated, he still chose to commit an overtly political act of violence. inscribing anti-ice on bullet casings doesn't mean nothing. My fear about the ice shooter, as well as the church shooter, is that both of them were motivated by the same nihilism that catalyzes random acts of mass violence like school shootings.

But instead of committing a random act of violence, both of these individuals latched onto larger, more abstract identities, the political and the religious, to carry out explicitly targeted acts. And in the wake of their choices to target specific groups of people, the American media and politicians are champing at the bit to assign the blame for these tragedies to their political opponents. The ice shooter was left-link, like Charlie Kirk's assassin.

Left-wing violence is on the rise. They hate everyone. They want to destroy us. The church shooter was a Trump supporter. He was a hateful bigot. Right-wing violence is on the rise. They hate everyone. They want to destroy us. In the short history of American politics, fraught conflicts are often deeply intertwined with religious sentiment,

for better and for worse. Prominent thinkers of the American Revolution believed that their freedom from British tyranny was the will of God. Prominent abolitionists believed they were the inheritors of that righteous struggle, as did later civil rights advocates. But religious radicalism has also motivated some of the bloodiest, most sectarian conflicts in our history. The Salem witch trials were fueled by anti-Catholicism. Protestant slaveholders and white supremacists justified their actions with twisted biblical teachings.

In fact, thinkers like Frederick Douglass viewed the conflict over slavery as a holy war between two competing forms of Christianity, identifying that the American Church had abandoned the precepts of the Bible, grace, humility, selflessness, in favor of ignoring or at worst directly supporting a political system that benefited them on earth. Of everything that has changed in American society

since its founding, the decrease in overall religious sentiment might be the starkest difference. But I firmly believe the sectarianism that informs religious conflicts has not gone away. We still see it in acts of anti-religious violence like the church shooting. But increasingly, we see it in acts of political violence, too. Rather than feeling a particular dedication to a higher deity,

many Americans, even those who claim religious identities, dedicate themselves purely to their socio-political movements. We approach the political realm with quasi-religious fervor, and like the Antebellum Church, we set aside our commitments to higher principles, focusing only on how we can attack our enemies. In some ways, I think these shootings are the first acts of violence that crossed the Rubicon into a violent borderland

filled with the religiously political and nihilistically violent. I worry that at the heart of these shooters' actions is a desire for attention and infamy, but they've decided that random mass murder isn't enough to achieve that goal. Instead, they want the media to spend days and weeks and even months trying to pick apart their politics. My fear is that the more space we give to these shooters and their motivations, the more we give them exactly what they want

and destroy ourselves in the process. We'll be right back after this quick break. Too many students are packed into overcrowded classrooms in Ontario schools, and it's hurting their ability to learn. But instead of helping our kids, the Ford government is playing politics, taking over school boards and silencing local voices. It shouldn't be this way. Tell the Ford government to get serious about tackling over.

overcrowded classrooms because smaller classes would make a big difference for our kids. Go to Building Better Schools.ca.a, a message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. Thanks, Audrey. Jumping back in here to read today's reader question. And from Fairfax County, Virginia, writes, how did Bill Pulte at the Federal Housing Finance Agency determined that some important government employees had missteps in their mortgage applications? Did his staff sift through old mortgage applications looking for problems? Is that a legal or ethical use of their authority over those records? Here's our response. We don't know exactly how

Bill Pulte, the director of the federal housing finance agency and chairman of government-sponsored enterprises, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, found out about Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook's mortgage applications. The only quote he's given about the discovery is that the papers, quote, came across our desk, end quote, at the FHFA. Given that he has also accused Senator Adam Schiff, a Democrat from California, of mortgage fraud, and that he oversees the largest lenders on the secondary mortgage market, it's reasonable to question whether Pulte used lender information uniquely available to him

through his position, which, yes, would be illegal. However, Pulte did not need to leverage his role at the FHFA, which may not have had any details of Cook's mortgages, as the agency collects data from vendors on the secondary market. The information that backs Pulte's allegation against Cook comes from loan applications that are searchable in the public record. Those records from 2021 showed Cook, a Georgia native, and at the time a professor at Michigan State University,

listed two homes as her primary residence. Furthermore, since his allegation is undercut by a separate loan estimate from Cook that described her Georgia condo as a vacation home, it appears that Pulte only used this publicly available information to make his allegation. It seems likely that Pulte, who's extremely active on social media, was looking to score points with the Trump administration by raising politically expedient allegations and went to sources that he knew to find dirt mortgage applications. Pulte is not only currently the head of the FHFA, but he was also a very successful builder in the private sector before joining the government.

So he's likely quite familiar with how to search and access home records. But that's basically all just informed speculation based on what information is publicly available to us about Pulte. And as we said at the start, we don't know for sure how Cook's records came across his desk. Reminder, if you have a question that you'd like to have answered in the newsletter, you can write into us. and let us know what it is, and we will consider it for a future edition. For now, I'm going to pass it back over to John, who will take us through the rest of the newsletter. Have a great day, everybody. Thanks, Will. Here's your under-the-radar story for today, folks.

On Monday, the head of the Russian Parliament's Defense Committee said that any U.S. military specialists who help Ukraine launch Tomahawk missiles at Russia would be considered military targets. The comments follow reports that the Trump administration is weighing whether to supply the missiles to Ukraine, with Vice President J.D. Vance confirming on Sunday that the administration is considering the move. Russia has said such an authorization would constitute a major escalation in the conflict, as the missiles have the range to reach Moscow. Reuters has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description.

All right, next up is our numbers section. According to the Center for Religious Liberty, 415 acts of hostility were committed against U.S. churches in 2024. According to Pew Research's 2020-23-2020-24 U.S. religious landscape study, 2% of U.S. adults identify as Latter-day Saints. 7% of U.S. adults who identify as Latter-day Saints live in the Midwest. According to in August 2025 Pew Research Survey, 40% of U.S. adults have a favorable view of immigration and customs enforcement,

while 49% have an unfavorable view. 72% of Republicans and 13% of Democrats have a favorable view of ICE. According to a September 2025 Quiniac poll, 79% of U.S. voters say that the U.S. is in a political crisis, while 18% say it is not. 83% of U.S. voters think that political leaders are more interested in blaming others, while 10% think that political leaders are interested in finding real solutions to address gun violence. According to a September 2025 U-Gov poll,

31% of U.S. adults say that left-wing violence is a bigger problem in the U.S. today, and 33% say that right-wing violence is a bigger problem in the U.S. today. And last but not least, our Have a Nice Day story. Brazil faced its worst outbreak of dengue fever last year, with more than 6 million cases and over 6,000 deaths from the tropical mosquito-borne disease. Last month, the country kicked off a randomized controlled trial of a new approach releasing swarms of mosquitoes infected with Wolbachia bacteria,

which studies have shown can reduce confirmed dengue cases by up to 77%. Dengue researcher Katie Anders said, if successful, the Brazilian trial might push the World Health Organization to recommend the Wobakia strategy to other countries battling the virus. I think it will open the door to them having confidence and unlock the pathways for policy adoption, Anders said. Nature has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that is it for today's episode.

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