Tangle - The Tennessee special election.

Starting point is 00:00:00 From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the Tennessee Special Election. I'm bringing in Audrey Moorhead today, one of our associate editors. Audrey is from Tennessee, and she grew up in the town that is just next door to the district where this race happened. So, you know, yesterday you guys heard from Will Kayback, who has a bunch of Minnesota roots, who I thought had a really interesting take, a really good take. I mean, I'm not sure I could have written it better myself.

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Starting point is 00:03:31 Number two, a Defense Department Inspector General report found that Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth could have endangered troops and violated some Pentagon rules when he shared sensitive information about imminent U.S. military action in Yemen through signal on his personal cell phone. The report also stated Hegsef has the authority

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Starting point is 00:04:34 The Quayar's trial had been scheduled to begin in 2026. We do have breaking news this evening. evening, as CNN can now project that the Republican Matt Van Epps has won the special election in Tennessee's 7th Congressional District that is staving off an attempt at a stunning political upset by Democrats from the candidate in this race, Afton Fain, you just heard from here. It's a district that, of course, is used to be considered a conservative stronghold. And when I say used to be, I mean last year, because President Trump won this district by more than 22 points in the presidential election.

Starting point is 00:05:16 On Tuesday, Matt Van Epps defeated state report. Representative Afton Bain in a special election to represent Tennessee's 7th Congressional District. Van Epps, a former Army officer endorsed by President Donald Trump, received roughly 54% of the vote for a nine-point victory over Bain, a former social worker and community health care organizer. Former Representative Mark Green's resignation in July triggered the special election, and the race drew national attention and significant outside spending. Van Epps Win preserves the 220 to 213 majority Republicans held

Starting point is 00:05:48 prior to Green's resignation. For context, the Tennessee 7th comprises 14 counties in West and Middle Tennessee. The district is a GOP stronghold, having been represented by a Republican for over 40 years. Former Representative Green won his seat by over 20 points in 2024, and President Trump carried the district by 22 percentage points. However, analysts predicted a competitive race in the special election. An independent polling headed into the election showed Van Nupt's leading bane by roughly two percentage points. The possibility of a Democrat flip led to an influx of funding on the race, with the two parties

Starting point is 00:06:22 spending a combined $6 million on campaign ads in and around the district. Both candidates ran primarily on affordability issues, with Republican ads warning Bain would raise taxes and Democratic ads suggesting VanEpps would raise health care costs. Van Epps won the election decisively, carrying every county except Nashville's Davidson County. However, every voting district shifted left compared to last year's presidential election. Republican leaders broadly celebrated Van Eyp's victory, with President Trump calling it another great night for the Republican Party. Some party strategists frame the night's results differently.

Starting point is 00:06:56 Veteran political strategist Matt Whitlock said the results showed one of the biggest flashing red light warning signs we've seen yet for Republicans. Democratic leaders expressed an optimistic outlook on the single-digit margin in a district where they have struggled to be competitive for decades. The fact that Republicans spent millions to protect this Trump-plus-22 district and still lost so much ground should have the GOP shaking in their boots, Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin said in a statement. Today, we'll share what writers from the right and the left are saying about the results. Then, Associate Editor Audrey Moorhead will give her take.

Starting point is 00:07:46 All right, first of let's start with what the right is saying. Many on the right say the result was too close for comfort and should prompt reflection ahead of the midterms. Some emphasized the massive resources Democrats poured into the race. Others say Bain was a bad candidate, showing Democrats still haven't learned from 2024. In Fox News, David Marcus wrote, GOP wins shows Tennessee hasn't been Californian, at least not yet.

Starting point is 00:08:13 A win is a win, but Van Nepp's relatively narrow margin of victory will set off alarm bells for Republicans nationally, and emboldened the socialist wing of the Democratic Party, which is already fast on its way to establishing its dominance, Marcus said. Over the past few years, the population of Nashville has grown by roughly 100 citizens a day, about 30,000 souls a year, and many are coming from blue, high-tax, high-crime states. Sadly, many seem willing to bring their failed politics with them. In her concession speech, Bain said her campaign was the beginning of something powerful in Tennessee and across the south. She could very well be right, because Nashville is not alone in turning bright blue, Marcus wrote.

Starting point is 00:08:51 Republicans need to take those warnings seriously. Say what you will about the tenets of socialism, but at least it's an ethos. Right now, nobody seems to know quite what Trumpism is other than Trump himself. That has to change. In the Federalist, M.D. Kittle said Republicans won despite the left's aggressive campaign to turn it blue. Bain, dubbed the AOC of Tennessee, still proved far too left for a traditional. Additional Values District that reaches the borders of Kentucky and Alabama. Bain tried to keep the focus on pocketbook issues, audaciously claiming that she would stand

Starting point is 00:09:24 up to both parties to make life more affordable. But she couldn't escape her far-left record, much of which stands contrary to making life more affordable for the average Tennessean Kittlerot. Like the squad's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bain has supported taxpayer-funded Medicaid for illegal aliens and government-run health care. Democrats, buoyed by Big Winds last month in Blue States, New Jersey, Virginia, and California, pumped a lot of money and personnel into winning Tennessee's seventh congressional and, more so, the momentum narrative. The left's full court press helped turn what should

Starting point is 00:09:56 have been a blowout victory for the GOP into a race a little too close for comfort, Kittle said. As one influential Tennessee conservative put it, Tuesday's special election should be a massive wake-up call for congressional Republican leadership. In National Review, Noah Rothman shared the other way of looking at Tennessee's special election results. The first concluded, most political observers have drawn from a Republican candidate Matt Van Epp's nine-point victory, is that it is a terrible omen for the GOP ahead of the 2026 midterms, Rothman wrote. There's another way to evaluate this race, though. For all of the environmental advantages that buoyed Bain, she was also a terrible candidate.

Starting point is 00:10:33 Indeed, Democratic primary voters in the district seemed to know she was a terrible candidate. In October's Democratic primary election, Bain barely managed to eke out a victory in a four-way race. Bain's policy positions on a range of subjects lean far to the left of the median voter in her district, but her party nominated her anyway. And as such, she underperformed what looks like the emerging Democratic Party baseline in 2025 special elections, Rothman said. Democrats are liable to nominate similarly ill-suited candidates in competitive primaries next year, or even oust entrenched incumbents in favor of progressive insurgents. It is almost a certainty that Democratic primary voters will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in at least a handful of races.

Starting point is 00:11:25 All right, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying. The left views the results as a flashing warning sign for Republicans. Some suggest a blue wave is coming in 26. Others say Republicans struggle to turn out their base when Trump isn't on the ballot. In the New York Times, Nate Cohen wrote, the GOP continues to slip. The winning party in the last five presidential elections has gone on to lose each of the next five midterms and four of the next five presidential elections. If the last month, or really the last year, of election results is any indication,

Starting point is 00:11:56 today's Republicans are following the same path. Almost every election night this year has gone poorly for them, Cohen said. They've lost or badly underperformed over and over, including on Tuesday, in a special congressional election in Tennessee, wherewith nearly all of the vote counted, the Republicans led by nine percentage points in a district that voted for President Trump last year by 22 points. Like other recent presidents, Mr. Trump has pushed too far in pursuit of an ideological agenda. In doing so, he either alienated many of the voters who put him over the top or neglected the issues, like affordability, that brought them to his side in the first place, Cohen said.

Starting point is 00:12:32 After the last year of agonizing debates over the Democrats' future, there's something painfully simple, even mundane, about the political opportunity that's opening up for them. They didn't have to do anything. But historically, electoral comebacks haven't been built on fixing what went wrong in the last election, like moderating on the issues or avoiding an unpopular stance. In CNN, Aaron Blake suggested Republicans avoided a nightmare in Tennessee. The Tennessee 7th is a district that Trump carried by 22 points and former GOP representative Mark Green won by more than 21 points last year. That means, as things stand, Bain overperformed Democrats' 24 presidential margin by about 13 points,

Starting point is 00:13:11 and their 2024 House margin by about 12 points, Blake said. The swing is actually smaller than other U.S. House special elections this year. Before Tuesday's race, Democrats had overperformed Kamala Harris's margins by an average of 18 points and their House margins by an average of 16 points in four special congressional elections held in three states, Arizona, Florida, and Virginia. One fair question for Democrats, given the smaller overperformance, is whether they fail to fully take advantage of the environment by running a quite liberal candidate in Bain.

Starting point is 00:13:41 She gave Republicans plenty of material with her past comments, which included saying she hates Nashville, expressing support for defunding the police and calling herself a very radical person, Blake wrote. But with 2025 soon coming to a close, all told, Democrats appeared to be performing better electorally than they did in 2017, and Democrats went on in 2018 to win

Starting point is 00:14:01 back the U.S. House in a wave election. In The Washington Post, Paul Kane said, the surprisingly tough Tennessee election reveals House GOP has a base problem. Republican strategists have worried for several months about Trump's plummeting support among independent voters, which helped lead to blow out wins for Democrats in gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia last month. But the underperformance of Tennessee's 7th Congressional District backs up some research showing a lack of energy among conservative-based voters, Kane wrote.

Starting point is 00:14:30 Democrats estimate that about 70 House seats held by Republicans are more friendly than this Tennessee seat. In its monthly poll released last week, Gallup found a seismic drop in approval from Republican voters for the job performance of Congress, down to 23%. Back in July, more than 60% of Republican voters approved of the GOP-run House and Senate, Kane said. That's the type of drop that is usually accompanied by a calamitous event that is considered an act of betrayal by one's own political party. That poll has been shared among House Republicans, according to lawmakers, who are warning each other about how difficult the next 11 months could be for several dozen incumbents. All right, let's head over to Audrey for her take. Hi, I'm Associate Editor Audrey Moorhead with today's take.

Starting point is 00:15:25 The National Political Party's laser-focused. on my home state over the past few weeks has been a surreal experience. Of course, the reasons for the attention are obvious enough. Tennessee's 7th district was a 22-point Trump district in last year's presidential election, but early signs showed that Democrats had a real chance of challenging the historically solid Republican seat. Even so, I never imagined that an off-cycle race in a district neighboring my hometown would garner so much national attention, that the race became so close is noteworthy in itself and has huge implications for the midterm elections. Matt Van Epps only managed to hold the district by single digits,

Starting point is 00:16:02 and that was after the party poured millions into defending the seat against a very progressive challenger in Afton Bain. This should have the national GOP battening down the hatches on its own, add in that the 7th District was redrawn ahead of the 2022 midterms to split up the Democratic stronghold of Nashville, and the GOP's narrow victory in the district could portend bad outcomes in other favorable districts, not just in Tennessee, but across the country. Voter turnout can be wonky for off-cycle special elections, as participating voters tend to be either very politically involved or the highly motivated base voters of the challenging party.

Starting point is 00:16:37 Those two factors seemed likely to produce much higher turnout from Democratic voters than Republicans in this election. That expectation was reinforced by the primary elections, in which participation was down 75%, hitting Republican voters harder and sparking Van Epps's aggressive campaign strategy and the reaction from National Republicans. If that low turnout had held in the special election and produced this narrow victory for VanEpps, Republicans' logical next step would have been working to motivate the base in order to regain their stronghold over the district ahead of 2026. But on Election Day, voter turnout wasn't nearly as low as expected. Roughly 180,000 voters cast ballots, about the same level of turnout as the 2022 midterm election, when former Representative Mark Green won re-election by 22 points. and Election Day turnout overwhelmingly favored Republicans

Starting point is 00:17:27 compared to the early vote, where Bain had more support. While the high turnout shows that Republicans' resources were well spent and motivating the base to defeat Bain, the victory is a double-edged sword. After Bain undeniably converted some swing voters, or even moderate Republicans in the district, Van Epps will have his work cut out for him during the 26 election season. Democrats, meanwhile, can take solace in the narrower than usual loss.

Starting point is 00:17:51 If they made such a high turnout special election in a traditionally solid red Tennessee district so competitive, their chances in swing districts look fantastic. And recent polls also show plummeting approval of Congress among Republican voters, creating a worst-of-both-world scenario for the GOP, where Democrats are motivated to turnout while the Republican base is increasingly disgruntled.

Starting point is 00:18:12 But the big question for me is whether Democrats are really banking their future on candidates like Afton Bain. Bain is a decidedly far-left member of her party. She has a long history as a progressive organizer known for her loud, aggressive tactics. In 2019, for example, Bain penned an essay in the Tennessean in which she wrote that Tennessee is a racist state with a racist legislature and proclaimed that, quote, we will continue to be loud, disrupt, cause chaos, and speak truth to the racist powers that grip our state until the legislature changes. She also spoke out in favor of dissolving the Metro Nashville Police Department and a 2019 video that went viral in the lead-up

Starting point is 00:18:50 to the week's election showed her being removed, struggling and shouting from their state house chamber after her outbursts towards then-Republican Speaker Glenn Cassata. That resume was galvanizing for the Democratic base in Nashville, but it also provided ample fodder for Republicans' line of attack. I can't help but think that the GOP's attack ads were the primary reason for the high turnout of low-propensity voters who tipped this election to Van Epps. Van Epps, on the other hand, came into the race a relative political unknown, and notably never seemed to be a major focus of the race. He ran on his strong military background,

Starting point is 00:19:24 having served nine tours during 10 years as an active-duty army officer. But his only political experience was his year as commissioner for the Department of General Services under Republican Governor Bill Lee, a position he stepped down from in order to run for this House seat.

Starting point is 00:19:38 Trump endorsed Van Epps in the Republican primary, and most of Van Epps's campaign emphasized economic priorities, military service, and other standard Republican positions. He was certainly a MAGA candidate, but he didn't have an extreme background. And interestingly enough, in the lead-up to the race, and even now in the aftermath,

Starting point is 00:19:55 very little attention seemed to be on Van Nupt himself, which made him a little hard to sell, but also difficult to attack. Speaking of attacks, I've got to talk about those ads. Normally, when I read about the millions of dollars poured into races from national interests, I don't have a strong grasp of how those numbers translate to the ground. But while I was at home for Thanksgiving,

Starting point is 00:20:15 watching football with my family, and the ads flooded my TV, I found the experience totally exhausting. Still, a few themes stood out. Bain's ads played up the issue of affordability, and she cast herself as someone willing to fight both parties in order to ensure low costs for Tennessee voters. Van Epps took a similar approach in his own ads,

Starting point is 00:20:33 but his most effective ads were his attacks against Bain. Much like the Trump campaign's use of Kamala Harris' past statements during the 2024 election, Republicans used real quotes and videos from Bain's online presence, videos of her crying on the floor of the Tennessee Capitol, footage of her complaining about Nashville, and, most memorably, as in I can literally still hear the line in my head, Bain's unfortunate statement, I'm a very radical person, which played in nearly every attack ad sometimes multiple times. None of Bain's ads had similarly memorable attacks

Starting point is 00:21:06 against Van Epps, or even particularly catchy lines about her own positions. And seeing the ads back-to-back, the juxtaposition between her bland moderate ads and the aggressive, loud footage of her from the Van Epps campaign created an unsavory picture, making her seem disingenuous and dangerously radical. Ultimately, I worry that the lesson Democrats will take from this election is not about the candidate, but about the message. While I think a more moderate candidate would have been less vulnerable to attack, possibly narrowing the margin further, or even outright flipping the seat, Democrats may instead decide that they should attack the Republican candidate more progressively next time. Given the intractable state of polarization in national politics,

Starting point is 00:21:44 I'd almost be willing to bet on it. The Van App's campaign's success and motivating right-leaning voters on Election Day is their one silver lining from Tuesday, obviously outside of actually holding the seat. Approaching the 26 midterms, Democrats seem to have the upper hand when they're able to boil the race down to issues of the economy and inflation. Look at Abigail Spanberger's success in Virginia, or Zoran Mondani's overwhelming victory in New York. But if Democrats continue to run candidates easily branded as radicals, they offer ample opportunity for Republicans to motivate their base in red or purple districts,

Starting point is 00:22:17 meaning Republican candidates could force Democrats to get off message, and the GOP might be able to limit their losses in 2026. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right. Thank you, Audrey, for the take. Really good stuff. Always appreciate mixing up the voices here. That brings us to your questions answered. Today's question is from Peter in Seattle, Washington. Peter said, I'm curious about how many political Twitter X accounts are foreign accounts. Additionally, why did they change the rules to show where the accounts are from and what caused them to switch it back so quickly? On another point, I heard that the Department of Defense account was from Israel, Is that the only government account that was foreign and has that been the same account for the last few administrations? Or does each new administration create a new social media account? Lastly, what are your thoughts on the foreign accounts? Okay, great question.

Starting point is 00:23:22 This was a big drama. For those of you who are very online like we are, they made this policy change on Twitter where they started displaying, excuse me, on X, where they started displaying the nation of origin of the accounts on X. Now, we were not able to find any definitive numbers or databases detailing how many political accounts on X are run by foreign users. But this new feature revealed that the number is definitely not insignificant. I mean, there were some big, big, big accounts that I have followed or kept an eye on or engaged with before that ended up being foreign-based, apparently, that were posing as Americans. That's why this is important. It's not like it matters whether the accounts are foreign or American in a vacuum. What matters is that many of them were accounts pretending to be Americans who actually were like from Bangladesh or something.

Starting point is 00:24:15 So some of these accounts were left-wing or they reported on liberal causes, but the majority of the big ones did seem to be right-wing conservative or MAGA accounts. Now, the feature has not been removed, but it has changed slightly after it was rolled out. Initially, a user's initial location was listed next to their date-joined information. However, that location information was removed, which led to speculation that Elon Musk, the ex-CEO, was scrapping the location information entirely because it was making conservatives on the platform look bad because so many big MAGA accounts were turning out to be foreign. That's not the case. If you look at a user's account page, the location data is still there. Only the initial sign-up location has been removed. X's head of product said this information wasn't reliable enough to list publicly.

Starting point is 00:25:04 So we have a screenshot in today's newsletter of our account. You can see it has the date joined. It says account based in the United States. And then it also says that we're connected via the United States App Store. Also, no, the Department of Defense or Department of War X account is not located in Israel. This claim was originally made about the Department of Homeland Security's account and Snopes tracked down the source to find it was a false rumor started on the platform. government account pages do not display a location.

Starting point is 00:25:35 However, after the feature was turned on, those accounts did briefly display locations that showed they were run out of the United States. As for my thoughts on the foreign accounts, this is something that me, Ari, and Camille discuss on the most recent suspension of the rules episode, so I encourage you to go listen to it. In short, people are free to offer opinions

Starting point is 00:25:54 on any subject they like, but misrepresenting their identity when offering that opinion is obviously misleading and misinferencing. I mean, someone saying, vote for MAGA to protect women's rights in America because I'm not going to use a bathroom with a trans woman. And it turns out that person is based out of Bangladesh. There's clearly something wrong with that. The counterpoint is, you know, you could take Venezuela as an example.

Starting point is 00:26:21 We've offered opinions on the Maduro government a lot as a U.S. media outlet. That'd be a problem if we claim to be a Venezuelan news company when we offered that opinion. then it would be unethical. So we wouldn't do that. People on action do that. And I think it's a great feature. So kudos to Elon Musk for rolling it out. All right, that is it for your questions answered.

Starting point is 00:26:41 I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod. And I'll see you guys soon. Have a good one. Peace. Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. On Wednesday, President Trump announced a transportation department proposal to roll back fuel economy standards for vehicles established during the Biden administration.

Starting point is 00:27:05 The Biden-era rules set the industry average for fuel efficiency at 50 miles per gallon by 2031 for light-duty vehicles. The new proposal would lower it to 34.5 miles per gallon. Additionally, the Transportation Department plans to scrap a 2024 rule to raise the minimum gas mileage for passenger cars and light trucks by 2013. President Trump said the change is intended to lower costs for automakers in designing their vehicles. Environmental groups criticized the plan as a step backwards. CBS News has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, next up is our numbers section.

Starting point is 00:27:43 State Representative Afton Baines' improvement over Vice President Kamala Harris' vote share between the 2024 presidential election and the 2025 Special Congressional Election in Montgomery County is plus 10, which accounted for 24% of the votes cast in the 7th District. Bain's improvement over Harris's performance in Davidson County is plus 18, which accounted for 24% of the votes cast in the district. The amount Republicans spent on the Tennessee 7th special election was $3.3 million. According to federal election commission filings, contributions from Republican-linked PACs as of November 24th totaled $2.3 million. The amount Democrats spent in the Tennessee 7th special election was $2.4 million. According to Gallup, the decrease in Republican

Starting point is 00:28:26 voters' approval of Congress between March 2025 and November 2025 is 40%. And the decrease in Democratic voters' approval of Congress between March 2025 and November 2025 is 4%. And last but not least, R Have a Nice Day Story. Earlier this year, researchers in Wales found that a vaccine for shingles might be having an unexpected side effect, reducing dementia. The study of 280,000 adults found that those who had taken the vaccine, had a 20% reduced risk of developing dementia over a seven-year period.

Starting point is 00:29:01 A follow-up study published Tuesday in the journal, Cell, reinforced this finding, concluding that cognitively healthy people who received the vaccine were less likely to develop early symptoms of dementia. This would be groundbreaking for dementia, if confirmed, Maxime Tackett, an associate professor at the University of Oxford, who has conducted research into Schingles vaccination and dementia risk, said, The Washington Post has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that is it for today's episode.

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