Tangle - Trump weighs his choices for vice president.

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Trump’s pick for vice president. Over the weekend, former President Donald Trump headlined the Republican National Committee’s spring donor retreat in Florida, an event that doubled as a showcase of Trump’s potential running mates. These attendees — dubbed “special guests” — included Republicans like Sen. Marco Rubio (FL), Sen. Tim Scott (SC), Sen. J.D. Vance (OH), Gov. Doug Burgum (ND), Gov. Kristi Noem (SD), Rep. Elise Stefanik (NY) and Rep. Byron Donalds (FL), among others. You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, our “Under the Radar” story ⁠here and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can watch our latest video, Isaac's interview with former Congressman Ken Buck (CO-04) ⁠here⁠.Check the next episode of our new podcast series, The Undecideds. In episode 2, our undecided voters primarily talk about Trump’s legal troubles. How do they feel about his alleged crimes? How would him being convicted - or exonerated - change the way they vote? What about his claims he should have immunity as president? You’ll hear how they consider these major themes of the race, and also what they made of Haley dropping out and Biden’s State of the Union Address. You can listen to Episode 2 ⁠⁠here.⁠⁠Today’s clickables: A note (0:49), Quick hits (1:43), Today’s story (3:55), Left’s take (6:57), Right’s take (10:33), Isaac’s take (13:04), Listener question (19:32), Under the Radar (22:53), Numbers (23:55), Have a nice day (24:56)You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey: Who do you think Donald Trump will choose as his running mate? Let us know!Our podcast is written by Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Jon Lall. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Will Kaback, Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo.--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tanglenews/message Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about Donald Trump's vice president search. Pretty interesting little story here, kind of getting an idea of where he might be heading. We're going to talk about why and who's in the running and how he might be making this pick. Obviously, a lot of commentary from the left and the right about this topic. Also, I want to give folks a heads up

that tomorrow I'm planning to head over to the University of Penn's campus to check out some of the encampment and student protest stuff. We're thinking about maybe doing an interview, trying to chat with some of the students who have been involved in this stuff. If you have any questions that you want answered, anything you're interested in related to these protests, any tips about some of the stuff that's happening at Penn, if you're a

Philly student, feel free to reach out. My email is Isaac, I-S-A-A-C at readtangle.com. I'm always open to leads and ideas and interesting things that our listeners are hoping to hear about. All right, with that out of the way, I'm going to pass it over to John for some quick hits and we'll be back for my take. Thank you, Isaac, and welcome, everybody. Here are today's quick hits. First up, U.S. Judge Eileen M. Cannon, who is presiding over Donald Trump's classified documents case, has delayed the trial indefinitely, citing a backlog of pre-trial materials. Separately, Stephanie Clifford, the adult film star who goes by the name Stormy Daniels,

testified yesterday in a criminal trial that she had an extramarital affair with Trump in 2006 and was given a hush money payment to stay quiet about it. Number two, yesterday Israel took control of the Gaza-Egypt-Rafa crossing, which has served as one of the few corridors for humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip. Ceasefire and hostage negotiations are continuing. Separately, the Biden administration confirmed it halted a large shipment of offensive weapons to Israel last week over concerns about Israel's operation in Rafah. Number three, Ukrainian officials said they arrested two Russian colonels who they allege were plotting to assassinate President Volodymyr Zelensky. Number four, TikTok sued the U.S. government over a recently passed law that would force it to divest or face a ban from U.S. app stores.

Number five, a Georgia appeals court said it would hear an appeal of the ruling that kept Fannie Willis on Donald Trump's election interference case, likely delaying that trial. tonight former president trump tied down in a manhattan courtroom but still preparing for a critical choice who will be his vp we're learning new details after several potential picks joined him at a mar-a-lago weekend donor retreat. Turning now to the race for the White House, some of the biggest names in the Republican Party descending on Palm Beach this weekend in support of former President Donald Trump. The guest list includes major donors and several top contenders to be Trump's vice presidential pick.

Potential VP hopefuls in Palm Beach include Senator Tim Scott, Senator Marco Rubio, Governor Kristi Noem, Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, Governor Doug Burgum, and Senator J.D. Vance. Over the weekend, former President Donald Trump headlined the Republican National Committee's Spring Donor Retreat in Florida, an event that doubled as a showcase of Trump's potential running mates. These attendees, dubbed special guests, included Republicans like Senator Marco Rubio from Florida, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, Senator J.D.

Vance from Ohio, Governor Doug Burgum from North Dakota, Governor Kristi Noem from South Dakota, Representative Elise Stefanik from New York, and Representative Byron Donalds from Florida, among others. Every year, the retreat brings together major Republican donors and politicians, but heightened interest in Trump's vice presidential pick added an air of intrigue to the weekend. Trump, who officially clinched the Republican nomination in March, leaned into the fanfare, hosting the VP hopefuls for interviews at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Saturday and offering real-time assessments of their political attributes. While Bloomberg reported that Vance, Burgum, Rubio, and Scott are currently at the top of Trump's list, the former president told Fox 6 Milwaukee that he won't make his decision until shortly before the Republican National

Convention in July. As some candidates have risen, others have fallen. Most notably, Noem's prospects dimmed after she made headlines for writing about shooting her 14-month-old dog in her new memoir. Noam wrote that the dog was aggressive and posed a danger to her children and others. Her situation worsened when it was revealed that Noam asked her publisher to remove a passage in her book in which she claimed to have met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un during her time in Congress. Jong-un during her time in Congress. Carrie Lake, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination in Arizona's Senate race, has also reportedly been eliminated from Trump's list, as has entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, who is being considered for a cabinet position. Trump's court cases are also a factor driving his decision. In addition to limiting his time on the campaign trail,

Trump's legal woes have hindered his ability to fundraise from wealthy donors as he tries to make up a sizable funding gap with President Joe Biden's campaign. Although his ongoing New York trial is generating a surge of small-dollar donations, Trump is reportedly prioritizing fundraising by considering how candidates will perform as his surrogate on the campaign trail. In that regard, Tim Scott's prospects are improving. As a candidate, he did a good job, but as a surrogate, he's unbelievable, Trump said of Scott. However, Scott's eagerness to represent Trump as a surrogate has resulted in his own controversy. Appearing on Meet the Press on Sunday, Scott repeatedly declined to say whether he would accept the results of the 2024 election.

At the end of the day, the 47th president of the United States will be Donald Trump, Scott said. That is my statement. Trump is likely two months away from making his pick, but the donor retreat and recent controversies have heightened speculation about his decision. Today, we are going to explore arguments from the left and the right about Trump's options for a running mate, and then Isaac's take. We'll be right back after this quick commercial break. First up, let's start with what the left is saying. The left says Trump will only choose a running mate who supports his claims about the 2020 election. Some suggest a calculus behind Trump's pick is much different now than in 2016. Others argue it would be political folly to accept the job from Trump.

In the New York Times, Jamel Bowie wrote about the one thing Trump knows he wants in a running mate. Donald Trump has yet to choose a running mate for his third attempt to win the White House, but he does seem to have at least one litmus test for anyone who hopes to play the part of Mike Pence in a second Trump administration. You cannot say that you'll accept the results of the 2024 election, Bowie said. There is no need for Trump to say anything else. All the Republicans vying to stand by his side understand they'll lose their shot if they accept the basic democratic norm that a loss may not be overturned after the fact. By essentially demanding this particular ideology commitment from prospective vice presidential nominees, Trump is making a real break with political tradition, Bowie wrote.

Trump embraced the logic of balancing in his first campaign, choosing Governor Mike Pence of Indiana as a sign of his commitment to the interests of conservative ideologues and the priorities of conservative evangelicals. That is almost certain not to happen this time. Whether it is Scott or Burgum or Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio or even the noted canine killer Governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota, Trump will select for loyalty, not a set of ideas or to the Republican Party. In The Atlantic, Elaine Godfrey said, Trump's VP search is different this time. Trump's team loves messing with the media almost as much as it loves jockeying for influence with the big man himself, Godfrey wrote. But the truth is, none of these supposed insiders really knows

much. No one has any idea what Trump is thinking except for Trump himself. And the former president is quite famously unpredictable, with a well-established tendency to make decisions based on his most recent conversation. Predicting his VP pick, then, is a bit futile. Still, without prognosticating too much, we can anticipate what Trump is probably looking for in a vice president. He'll choose a candidate with experience, or at least with some record of being a winner. He's probably not looking for a politician to balance out his ticket like Mike Pence did in 2016, when Trump desperately needed to win over evangelicals, Godfrey said. Above all, of course, Trump will want someone unfailingly loyal to him. This time around, it's not about

logic or persuasion. It's about personality. In USA Today, Rex Hupke asked, who will be dumb enough to become Donald Trump's vice president? That anyone would consider applying for the job is remarkable. It's like asking for volunteers to report for sticking your finger in a light socket duty. The position of Trump's vice president brings with it the kind of job safety only found among nervous snake handlers and crash test dummies. And yet, people are actually vying for this gig. A pack of them descended on South Florida this weekend to debase themselves before a twice-impeached former one-term president who demands absolute loyalty while dispensing none. Notably absent from the cynical South Florida Keister Smooch Fest of 2024 was former actual Vice President Mike Pence, who had the audacity

to not help Trump do a coup and is now persona non grata in the MAGA wing of the GOP. That a former president's own vice president won't even endorse his current presidential run is a staggering fact that's often overlooked, Hupke wrote. Whatever Donald Trump took away from this weekend's parade of potential victims, the timing of his decision is anybody's guess. Alright, that is it for what the left is saying, which brings us to what the right is saying. The right is mixed on who Trump should choose, but many say the pick is unusually important this election. Some express dismay at the hopeful's attempts to show their allegiance to Trump. Others say his pick will have no bearing on the outcome of the

election. In Fox News, Liz Peek discussed five key criteria Trump should consider in his running mate. Oftentimes, the vice presidential choice is not especially consequential. This time, it is. Trump can only serve one term. If you you believe like two-thirds of your fellow americans that the country is on the wrong track you must agree that four years of donald trump will not suffice peak said the former president gets it more than once he said that his major criteria in choosing a running mate will be that the individual can serve as president i judge the candidates on five attributes. One, credible presidential candidate. Two, loyalty to Donald Trump. Three, well-vetted, not likely to surprise. Four, helps with an

important demographic, state, or fundraising. And five, aligns with Trump on abortion. Many centrist Republicans would like to see Nikki Haley run with Trump, thinking she could attract women to the ticket and also moderate voters who dislike both Biden and the former president. It might work, but would require repairing what has become a serious rift between her and her former boss, Peek wrote. In the coming weeks, expect to see Trump road test numerous candidates. For the sake of the country, let's hope he chooses a winner. In the Daily Beast, Matt Lewis criticized the candidates for professing blind loyalty to Trump. Historically, party nominees seek to balance their ticket in some way with the selection, but Trump is anything but a traditional candidate and often acts via his gut. He's also susceptible to flattery, so it is

difficult to game out what he's thinking, Lewis said. Trump may not respect Scott, but choosing him would balance the ticket with the likable candidate who would be the first African-American vice president and a go-to yes-man for any of Trump's harebrained ideas. Scott's fawning loyalty to Trump is disgusting, which is why he has a chance. I don't think he's overly concerned about electoral considerations such as playing for a state or a demographic. Having been chastened by Mike Pence's refusal to back the scheme to not certify the 2020 electoral votes, Trump may prize blind loyalty over all else. If the game is vicious sycophancy, Stefanik will be hard to beat, Lewis wrote. If we know anything about Trump, it's that he loves dragging these things out and watching people prostrate themselves and fawn over him for his blessing. After long days hold up in a freezing courtroom, the warm praise and adoration in sunny Florida could be just what the doctor ordered.

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and 100% protection is not guaranteed. Learn more at FluCellVax.ca. protection is not guaranteed. Learn more at flucellvax.ca. In the Washington Examiner, Brady Leonard argued Trump's vice presidential pick won't matter. After Governor Kristi Noem nuked her veepstakes odds with the bizarre decision to prove her toughness by bragging about shooting a puppy with a 12-gauge, North Dakota governor and former sort-of-president presidential candidate Doug Burgum emerged as a top choice. Other names such as Senator Marco Rubio, Senator Tim Scott, perpetual Arizona candidate Carrie Lake, Representative Elise Stefanik, and former Democratic Representative Tulsi Gabbard have been floated by sources, but Trump's vice presidential pick likely won't

matter one way or another. If President Joe Biden's team and its friends in the press can shift the focus to Trump's legal battles and somehow convince the electorate that January 6th was worse than Pearl Harbor, Biden will win. If the focus is kept on Biden's age, mental decline, outrageous family corruption, and disastrous economic and foreign policy, the Donald will join President Grover Cleveland in the history books, Leonard said. This is a simple election. Sleepy Joe versus Orange Man Bad. Everyone knows the players. May the best old man win. Now let saying, which brings us to my take. So like most things that have to do with Donald Trump, his process for picking a vice president

has a lot of unique elements. For starters, I think the way that Trump is going about picking his running mate is actually quite brilliant. The longer that Trump is openly encouraging these candidates to court him, the longer he'll have a dozen very high-profile Republicans out in the press pledging their loyalty to him and covering for every mishap. Think about it. When all these people are trying to become your vice president, you effectively have a team of surrogates who are campaigning for you every single day. The longer Trump has that, the better. I also want to keep in mind the unusual or unprecedented things specific to Trump. First, he is going to be in a lot of courtrooms over the next few months, so he can't afford to pick a neutral person who's just a steady voice. He needs a running mate who can campaign and raise money.

Senator Tim Scott, the Republican from South Carolina, who has long been the person I've predicted would win this position, would be a solid pick for those reasons. Second is the 2020 election. Trump is looking for someone who will not accept that he lost in 2020, and apparently, based on how these prospects are answering questions about it, someone who will not promise to certify and oblige the 2024 results. Not to beat a dead horse here, but not promising to accept the results of a Democratic election is one of my few bright red lines. The 2020 election was not stolen, and you can see my in-depth work on this topic in dozens of previous podcast episodes or newsletters. There are links to them in today's episode description.

And no candidate for office should be pressured into saying otherwise. But Trump demands loyalty on this topic. And so we're going to have to wade through a lot of nonsense about mail-in voting and election fraud and still unproven theories for which evidence has never materialized, even as we sit here in 2024. At the same time, Trump also has to find a successor. It's hard to know how much, if at all, someone like Trump will weigh that calculation. I'm willing to bet Trump's sole focus is on the here and now and how to beat Joe Biden. But remember, if he wins, he gets one term, then he's

done. That means Trump's vice president will be the most high-profile Republican in the country four years from now, and the person most likely to fill his seat and aim to occupy the White House for an additional eight years. Who, from this list, is capable of also winning the 2028 general election? Surely, Republican strategists are also going to be whispering in Trump's ear about that. Ultimately, Trump probably needs the same thing he got from Mike Pence in 2016. Someone people trust, someone moderates are drawn to, and someone who understands the government. There's a strong case that he should choose a woman, but he's alienated Nikki Haley, Kristi Noem has lit her chances on fire, and Carrie Lake is reportedly off the short list

and is obviously running for Senate in Arizona. That only leaves Senator Marsha Blackburn, the Republican from Tennessee, and Representative Elise Stefanik, the Republican from New York. Of the two, I suspect Stefanik has the definitive edge. She is something of a conservative media darling, she's young, she's feisty, and she's completely walked the Trump party line, at least since she converted from a Trump critic to a Trump supporter. Blackburn, conversely, is a 71-year-old senator who spent most of her time as part of the Republican establishment, has a long history in public life, and would be a prime target on the campaign trail. All the other big names in the mix just seem hard

for me to imagine. Senator Marco Rubio, the Republican from Florida in particular, is someone whose public reputation was tarnished in large part by Trump. Remember, not so long ago when Trump was deriding him as Little Marco and Rubio was responding by talking about Trump's small hands? Maybe these two reconcile and Trump takes in an establishment Republican for some cred, but I just can't picture it. If I had a big board, this is how I'd rank the chances of Trump's prospects. Number one, Tim Scott, still, in my view, the most likely. Number two, Elise Stefanik. Number three, J.D. Vance, someone who we didn't really get into, but I think is a very interesting pick. He's young. He's from Ohio. He's got a very high public profile. I could see him actually being a really good VP for President Trump. Number four, Doug Burgum. Number five, Marsha Blackburn. For what it's

worth, there is always the chance that Trump just taps somebody nobody is talking about or goes for a very low-profile person, perhaps a member of the House like Wesley Hunt from Texas or Michael Waltz from Florida, whom Democrats would have to spend months vetting and doing opposition research on before running against. But frankly, I doubt that. Remember, Trump needs a fundraiser and a person people would trust to run the White House, so I think those picks are unlikely, though Donald Trump has been known to surprise. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right, next up is your questions answered. This one's from Andrew in Dayton, Ohio. Andrew said, you mentioned that inflation is measured by the Consumer Price Index, or CPI,

which is designed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics to track price fluctuations for urban buyers who represent the vast majority of Americans. I often think about the division between rural and urban America. Are there any indices that monitor the price fluctuations in rural areas, either by the Fed or another entity? If so, how do they compare, and how do you think it plays into the politics of the economy? Okay, so first of all, this is a really good question. This is a super heady, smart question to think about when looking at inflation. And it's also something that has always concerned me about the CPI too. Yes, people living in metropolitan areas represent about 83% of the U.S. population. And yes, localized inflation in major cities like New

York usually outpaces inflation in the rest of the country. But that population. And yes, localized inflation in major cities like New York usually outpaces inflation in the rest of the country. But that doesn't mean we can draw trends for the entire country based on a metric that excludes 17% of it. I've expressed concerns about the possibility of our traditional economic indicators to truly represent the day-to-day economic security most Americans have, and the way the CPI is measured is part of that. This question speaks to one other element often brought up in economic stories, different economic perceptions based on partisan views. According to Pew, 44% of Democrats say the economy is excellent or good compared to 13% of Republicans. That's usually explained away by

partisan bias, but I wonder if there's something deeper going on. Considering that Republicans represent most of rural America, I think it's possible that, broadly speaking, Republican voters and Democrat voters aren't just interpreting different realities through how they read the news, but they could actually be experiencing different realities. The short answer is that yes, there are other metrics to measure rural inflation, but no, they aren't regularly tracked in any federal or non-governmental index that I'm aware of. Economists Stephen Wheeler and Tessa Conroy wrote a great piece in the conversation that describes the four things that differentiate rural expenditures from urban ones. That's like larger reliance on cars and fuel, more sensitivity to grocery prices, a proportionally older population more sensitive

to healthcare costs, and less expensive housing but more expensive heating and cooling. When you consider that, because of their volatility, the Core CPI excludes those same fuel prices that rural Americans feel more acutely. You can really start to see why so many Republicans have felt like they were being told the weather is beautiful in the middle of a storm. The closest thing to an index demonstrating how rural Americans felt inflation differently for the first two years of Joe Biden's term comes from Iowa State Professor David Peters. Last year, Peters published an article to illustrate how those differences, and the price of gasoline

in particular, led to rural Americans feeling inflation in 2022 much more acutely than those measured in the core CPI. All right, that is it for your reader question today. I'm going to pass it off to John for the rest of the newsletter. I'll be back here tomorrow. Don't forget to email me, Isaac, I-S-A-A-C at readtangle.com with any tips, interests, anything about some encampments going on or anything happening at Penn, and any feedback on the podcast. Always here to take your thoughts. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks, Isaac. Here's your Under the Radar story for today. A new survey of college students by Generation Lab produced a surprising result. The conflict in the Middle East was the least

important issue for students on campus. In the survey, 1,250 students were presented with nine issues. Healthcare reform, education funding and access, economic fairness and opportunity, racial justice and civil rights, climate change, gun control, immigration policies, national security slash terrorism, and the conflict in the Middle East. Just 13% said the conflict was most important to them, while 40% said healthcare reform and 38% said educational funding. Only 8% said they had participated in either side of the Israel-Palestinian protests. Furthermore, 34% of students blame Hamas for the current situation, while 19% blame Netanyahu, 12% blame the Israeli people, and 12% blame Biden. Axios has the story, and there's a link in today's episode description.

All right, next up is our numbers section. The number of days until the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin is 68. Tim Scott's odds of being Donald Trump's running mate are 18.8%, the highest of any candidate according to election betting odds. J.D. Vance's odds to be Trump's running mate are 11.7%. Elise Stefanik's odds to be Trump's running mate? 7.1%. Trump's polling deficit against Hillary Clinton on July 15th of 2016, the day before he announced Mike Pence as his running mate, was negative 3.6 percent, according to FiveThirtyEight. Trump's polling deficit against Clinton 15 days after announcing Pence as his running mate was negative 0.2 percent. Joe Biden's polling advantage over Trump on August 10th, 2020, the day before he announced

Kamala Harris as his running mate, was 8.3%. Biden's pulling advantage over Trump 15 days after announcing Harris as his running mate was 9.3%. All right, and last but not least, our Have a Nice Day story. While Gen Z may not be wealthy compared to baby boomers or Gen X, historically speaking, this generation is doing pretty well. A new analysis from the left-leaning think tank, Center for American Progress, says that economic conditions have enriched Gen Z, along with millennials, relative to other generations at their age. Using Federal Reserve data, the authors found that Americans under 40

years old have had their credit card and student loan debt decrease while the value of their assets has risen. The Progress Network has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that's it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, you can go to readtangle.com and sign up for a membership. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and everybody on the Tangle News team, have a great day, everybody. Peace. Our podcast is written by me, Isaac Saul, and edited and engineered by John Wall. The script is edited by our managing editor, Ari Weitzman, Will Kedak, Bailey Saul, and Sean Brady. The logo for our podcast was designed by Magdalena

Bokova, who is also our social media manager. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75. And if you're looking for more from Tangle, please go to readtangle.com and check out our website. We'll see you next time. who dreams about a world beyond Chinatown. When he inadvertently becomes a witness to a crime, Willis begins to unravel a criminal web, his family's buried history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown is streaming November 19th, only on Disney+. The flu remains a serious disease.

Last season, over 102,000 influenza cases have been reported across Canada, which is nearly double the historic average of 52,000 cases. What can you do this flu season? Talk to your pharmacist or doctor about getting a flu shot. Consider FluCellVax Quad and help protect yourself from the flu. It's the first cell-based flu vaccine authorized in Canada for ages 6 months and older, and it may be available for free in your province.

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