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Episode Date: April 16, 2024Donald Trump's trial. On Monday, jury selection began in Manhattan for former President Donald Trump's trial for allegedly falsifying business records, commonly referred to as the "hush m...oney" case. The allegations brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg are that Trump orchestrated a scheme to influence the 2016 election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him and suppressing its publication, then covering his tracks by illegally falsifying business records. With jury selection underway, Trump now becomes the first former president ever to stand trial in a criminal case. Today, we're going to break down the latest on the trial. You can read our previous coverage here, here, and here.You can read today's podcast here, our “Under the Radar” story here and today’s “Have a nice day” story here.Watch our latest YouTube video, an interview with Edwin Raymond. He is a recently retired NYPD lieutenant, civil-rights activist and author of the riveting new memoir An Inconvenient Cop: My Fight to Change Policing in America. You can view it here.Catch up on Episode 1 of our first ever limited podcast series, The Undecideds, before the next one comes out. We're following five voters — all Tangle readers — who are undecided about who they are going to vote for in the 2024 election. In Episode 1, we introduce you to those voters. Today’s clickables: SOLD OUT Live Event Tomorrow in NYC (0:28), Quick hits (2:39), Today’s story (4:32), Left’s take (8:48), Right’s take (12:38), Isaac’s take (16:22), Listener question (21:06), Under the Radar (24:10), Numbers (25:07), Have a nice day (26:03)You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Yesterday, we released more general admission tickets for tomorrow’s Tangle Live event in New York City. Before we could even advertise them in the newsletter, the event sold-out again (in literally 30 minutes). Thank you all so much for the support. We are thrilled and can't wait for the show.One important note: Two readers have written in to let me know they have tickets but can no longer attend, and have offered to donate their tickets. In total, we have three general admission tickets that are up for grabs. If you still need tickets, email me with the subject line "Tickets'' and I'll see if we can get you some. First come, first served. Thank you all, and see you tomorrow!Tangle is looking for a part-time intern to work as an assistant to our YouTube and podcast producer. This is a part-time, paid position that would be ideal for a college student or recent college graduate looking to get real-world deadline experience in the industry. Applicants should have: Proficiency in Adobe Premiere — After Effects a plus. Minimum of one year of video editing (Adobe Premiere) Minimum of one year of audio editing and mixing (Any DAW) Good organizational and communication skills Understanding of composition and aesthetic choices Self-sufficiency in solving technical problems Proficiency in color grading and vertical video formatting (preferred, not required)To apply, email your resume and a few paragraphs about why you are applying to jon@readtangle.com and isaac@readtangle.com with the subject line "Editor opening"The job listing is posted here. Preference will be given to candidates in the greater Philadelphia area. Do you think Trump is guilty in the “hush money” case? Let us know!Our podcast is written by Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Jon Lall. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Will Kaback, Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo.--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tanglenews/message Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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to go into effect that bans minors from receiving medication or surgery related to gender transitions.
Separately, Supreme Court Justice Clarence
Thomas missed oral arguments for a case on Monday without a reason given by the court.
Number two, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Galant told Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
that Israel has no choice but to respond to Iran's drone and missile barrage from over the weekend.
Number three, Tesla is expected to lay off 14,000 workers
or about 10% of its global workforce in a cost-cutting measure. The electric car company
experienced its first ever year-over-year decline in quarterly sales last month. Number four, House
Speaker Mike Johnson, the Republican from Louisiana, is expected to bring separate funding bills for
Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan to the floor this week for a vote. And number five, a federal criminal investigation has been
opened into the crash that led to the Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsing.
Today, political history and legal history is being made as a jury is selected in the first
criminal trial of a former president of the United States. This is the first time this has ever
happened. And making this even more unprecedented, Donald Trump is a former president who is also
currently running, of course, to return to the White House for a second term.
Jury selection continues today in the New York criminal trial
of former President Donald Trump. Trump has disparaged the judge, the district attorney,
and others. He continues to insist he is experiencing political interference.
Because he has to appear at the trial, Trump cannot get out on the campaign trail.
I'm not in Georgia or Florida or North Carolina.
I'm not in Georgia or Florida or North Carolina. are that Trump orchestrated a scheme to influence the 2016 election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him and suppressing his publication, then covering his tracks by
illegally falsifying business records. With jury selection underway, Trump now becomes the first
former president ever to stand trial in a criminal case. A quick rewind here, the case is based on
allegations made by Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen,
who pleaded guilty in 2018 to federal campaign finance crimes that implicated the president
and then served three years in prison.
Part of Cohen's admission was that he had paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 in 2016
to keep quiet about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump roughly 10 years earlier.
Cohen also said he paid
the publisher of the tabloid National Enquirer to kill his story about a 10-month affair Trump
allegedly had with former Playboy model Karen McDougal. Trump denies any sexual relationship
with either woman. Federal prosecutors alleged that both of the transactions were crimes.
However, they did not pursue charges following long-standing precedent against prosecuting a sitting president. Prosecutors made the case that Cohen's payment to Daniels was meant
to influence the 2016 election, acting as a personal donation to the Trump campaign, almost
50 times the legal contribution limit at the time. Furthermore, the payment by the National
Enquirer publisher American Media to McDougal violated federal restrictions on corporate contributions to a campaign, prosecutors argue.
In his plea, Cohen said Trump coordinated both payments, and federal prosecutors found that
Cohen was repaid for the Daniels deal in monthly increments disguised as a retainer for legal
services. Those payments and the disguise represent the crime that state prosecutors are pursuing,
falsifying business records. That crime is a misdemeanor under New York state law,
but it can become a felony if the records are falsified to conceal or commit another crime.
New York officials had all but abandoned the case, determining that it'd be difficult to build.
In 2022, shortly after Joe Biden was elected, Bragg and his team revived the case,
deciding to present evidence to a grand jury. Bragg and his team revived the case, deciding to present
evidence to a grand jury. Bragg charged Trump with three felony counts, one for each record
he allegedly falsified while reimbursing Cohen. The Manhattan District Attorney's Office has left
several avenues open for pursuing the case, saying in court filings that other crimes like campaign
finance violations, tax offenses, or breaches of a state election law might be at play,
arguing that Trump prevented someone from being elected to public office by unlawful means
while acting in a conspiracy with others, which is illegal in New York. Prosecutors do not need
to prove that Trump committed those crimes, only that he intended to. In some ways, the case is the
lowest stakes of all the criminal charges Trump is facing. He would face no mandatory prison term if convicted, and though the case is full of salacious allegations, its criminal elements
are fundamentally about whether Trump falsified financial or business records to account for hush
money payments. However, the trial may also have some political potency. Polling shows roughly
seven in ten voters believe Trump acted unethically or illegally in the actions alleged in the case,
the highest of any of the charges he faces. It is also the only one of his trials that and 10 voters believe Trump acted unethically or illegally in the actions alleged in the case,
the highest of any of the charges he faces. It is also the only one of his trials that looks likely to be completed before Election Day. Trump is also required to attend the trial,
meaning he'll be seated at the defendant's table for four days a week instead of campaigning.
Jury selection in the heavily Democratic district began on Monday and is expected to last about a
week, and so far at least 50 potential jurors have been dismissed because they say they could
not be impartial. Judge Juan Merchan, who is overseeing the case, declined requests from
Trump's legal team to recuse himself and denied another effort to delay proceedings, which once
started, are expected to last as long as two months. Today, we're going to break down the
latest on the trial. You can read our previous coverage with links in today's episode description.
We'll be right back after this quick commercial break.
First up, we'll start with what the left is saying. The left thinks the trial underscores
the stakes of the 2024 election. Some say the evidence suggests Trump committed a serious
criminal offense, while others struggle to find anything of consequence in the charges.
In Slate, Jeremy Stahl wrote about the real stakes of the first criminal case against the former
president. Although I personally find the substance of the prosecution more compelling and legally significant than lots
of other observers do, it would be impossible to argue that this is a bigger deal than Trump's
efforts to steal the 2020 election, culminating in the violent effort to overthrow the government
on January 6th or the classified documents case. And yet, this is the case we're getting first,
Stahl said. If Trump is convicted, he'll face the potential of case. And yet, this is the case we're getting first, Dahl said.
If Trump is convicted, he'll face the potential of a prison sentence or, more likely, home
confinement. If he manages to reclaim the presidency anyway, he'll be free of those
consequences for a while. But that sentence will hang over the entire course of his time in office.
Here is the problem. That knowledge will cause him to do whatever he can through the power of the presidency to postpone that day forever. Whether that means attempting to hold on to the office past the expiration of his term, or seeking to destroy his enemies in New York in other ways that prevent them from enforcing judgment on him, the country will be plummeted into a crisis.
not escape with our democracy intact. That danger itself, that of Trump actually becoming the dictator he claims he wants to be, with all that that entails so that he can once again escape
consequences at any cost, will be what awaits us on the other side of this. In MSNBC, Christy
Greenberg argued why you should take Trump's hush money trial seriously. For starters, the alleged
cover-up of a presidential candidate's hush money payments to a porn star to try to win an election is captivating and easily comprehensible.
In stark contrast, for example, to the financial statements and property valuations from Trump's civil fraud trial, Greenberg said,
Trump initially denied knowing about the hush money payments when they were first reported, a provable lie.
first reported, a provable lie. Only after law enforcement searched Cohen's premises and Trump realized he would be caught did Trump acknowledge that he knew about the payments and had reimbursed
Cohen for them. Trump's lie exhibits his consciousness of guilt. I expect the jurors'
common sense will tell them that Trump made the hush money payments on the eve of the presidential
election to help him win. This was a close election, and Trump's candidacy may not have
survived another setback
after the Access Hollywood tape fiasco, Greenberg added. The reimbursement payments were made by
Trump and the hush money payment was made for Trump's benefit. Any defense that attempts to
distance Trump from those payments won't pass the smell test for a New York jury.
In the Los Angeles Times, Richard L. Haston said it's hard to muster even a meh over Trump's New
York criminal trial. People want the hush money case to be the big case that can take down Trump
because it may be the only one that goes to trial before the election, Hasen said.
I have a hard time even mustering a meh. Trump may not be convicted of a felony in the case,
and if he is, there's a reasonable chance of an eventual reversal on appeal. Besides,
the charges are so
minor I don't expect they will shake up the presidential race. They may actually make that
situation worse. I certainly understand the impulse of Trump opponents to label this case
as one of election interference, but any voters who look beneath the surface are sure to be
underwhelmed. Calling it election interference actually cheapens the term and undermines the
deadly serious charges in the real election interference cases, Hasen said, anything less than a felony conviction would
only embolden Trump. He's already convinced a chunk of Republican voters that all the claims
against him are a witch hunt, a hung jury, or acquittal, or even a conviction on minor charges
would only feed the lie that all the indictments he's racked up are bogus.
Alright, that is it for the leftist saying, which brings us to what the right is saying.
The right says the charges against Trump lack merit, and the prosecution is solely motivated by political aims. Some suggest Bragg is damaging
the integrity of the legal system by pushing this case. Others say their opinion of Trump
will remain unchanged, regardless of the verdict. In National Review, Rich Lowry wrote,
Alvin Bragg makes history, preposterously. If this alleged crime doesn't shock your conscience,
the drafters of the relevant New York statute agree with you. They made it a misdemeanor, Lowry said. This presented two obstacles for Alvin Bragg.
One was that charging a former president with a misdemeanor would be too ridiculous, even for him.
The other was that the statute of limitations for such a misdemeanor offense is two years,
so he'd be out of luck even if he wanted to indict Trump anyway. By redefining Trump's
offense as a felony,
Brad got several years back on the statute of limitations clock. He then proceeded to charge basically every keystroke related to these payments as a separate offense. It's likely
that none of this is going to matter because the New York legal system is so stacked against Trump.
Still, it's possible that the former president could wiggle off the hook with a hung jury or
a request that the judge let the jury consider the lesser included misdemeanor offenses.
Anything less than a resounding victory would be a major embarrassment for Bragg,
and it couldn't happen to a better prosecutor.
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In the New York Post, Jonathan Turley called the trial an embarrassment for the New York legal
system. Lawyers have been scouring the civil and criminal codes for any
basis to sue or prosecute Trump before the upcoming 2024 election. This week will highlight
the damage done to New York's legal system because of this unhinged crusade, Turley wrote.
Bragg used the alleged federal crime to bootstrap a defunct misdemeanor charge into a felony in the
current case. He's arguing that Trump intentionally lied when his former lawyer,
Michael Cohen, listed the payments as retainer costs rather than a payment to avoid reporting it as a campaign contribution to himself. Thus, if he had simply had Cohen report the payments
as hush money, there would be no crime. Making this assorted business even more
repellent will be the appearance of Cohen himself on the stand. Cohen is a long record as a legal
thug who has repeatedly lied when it served his interests. Cohen is a long record as a legal thug
who has repeatedly lied when it served his interests. He has a knack for selling his
curious skill set to powerful figures like Trump and now brag, Turley said. So this is the case.
A serial perjurer used to convert a dead state misdemeanor into a felony based on an alleged
federal election crime that was rejected by the Justice Department. Whatever the outcome, it may prove a greater indictment of the New York court system than
the defendant. In PJ Media, Matt Margolis asks, why should anyone care if Trump is convicted?
After Trump left office, we saw a coordinated effort by the George Soros-funded district
attorneys to abuse the legal system by going after Trump. District attorneys like Alvin Bragg
and Fannie Willis and attorneys like Letitia James literally campaigned on the promise of getting Trump.
For what? Well, you just had to elect them so they could find something, Margolis wrote.
Democrats made it clear from the beginning of Trump's presidential ambitions that they were
and still are afraid of him. It wasn't even a secret that Democrats were plotting Trump's
impeachment before Inauguration Day. And of course, they ultimately did, Margolis said. However, their
efforts to impeach him failed to achieve a conviction, and the current efforts to convict
him of various bogus charges are just a continuation of the impeachment movement against him. So, no,
why should I care if any of these carefully plotted partisan prosecutions succeed?
They'll only serve as proof that our legal system is broken.
All right, that is it for what the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take.
So this is the fourth edition we've devoted to this case, and it's dragged on so much that it's almost hard to believe the trial has actually
begun. Since the days when the details about this potential indictment were leaking, the specifics
of what Bragg was going to charge Trump with and how he was building the case have not changed much.
So my opinion hasn't changed much either.
First, Trump almost certainly did what he is accused of. I know this will be very controversial
to many of my listeners who support the former president, but the evidence strongly suggests
that Trump's team paid Daniels not to share her story and then tried to cover their tracks.
The paper trail is pretty overwhelming. It's actually so obvious that
it's kind of amusing, which is why Michael Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison.
Did Trump actually instruct and orchestrate these payments? I don't know. That's what a trial's for.
Did they actually have an affair? That is something only Trump and Daniels are likely
to ever know for sure. But did Cohen make these payments, and did he attempt to cover them up?
Yes. Second, that this case is being brought at all makes me feel very uncomfortable.
Trump has a lot of legal trouble, but of all the cases that have been brought against him,
I think this one has the least justification. Remember, Bragg brought this indictment by
introducing multiple potential theories of how Trump broke the law without actually specifying which one he was pursuing. He has not argued the payments were covering up
a specific crime that would potentially elevate these charges from a misdemeanor to a felony.
Instead, Bragg elevated the charges by claiming the payments might have violated election laws,
or perhaps the documents were to execute some state tax crimes. When the indictment was unsealed,
the general reaction was surprised at how much weaker it was than many even expected it to be.
The case isn't just weak because it introduces a novel legal theory against a former president.
It's not weak just because, had Trump not left New York to be president and paused the statute
of limitations, this case would be too old to bring. Or because Bragg stacked the charges by
separating each alleged falsified document into old to bring. Or because Bragg stacked the charges by separating
each alleged falsified document into its own count. Or because other prosecutors have already
opted not to bring this case when they saw the same details. It's weak because of all those
things combined. On top of all that, the case marks the very first time a former president has
ever stood trial, and the first time a former president or a presidential candidate has been
indicted by a district attorney from the opposing party. It's also worth pointing out that Trump has
a decent chance of simply beating this case. If prosecutors fail to prove intent, or Trump shows
he was just doing what his legal team told him, or there's no smoking gun showing Trump instructing
Cohen, or the jury determines Cohen is an incredible witness because of his past perjury convictions, or Trump convincingly argues the scheme was simply
meant to protect his wife from embarrassment, then he will probably avoid conviction.
That's the legal stuff. Judging the politics of this case has always been hard. When we first
wrote about it a year ago, it was hard to predict this case's impact. Back then, it seemed possible
Trump might not even be the nominee. Interestingly, despite everything I said above, I think the politics
have actually gotten worse for Trump, not better. Trump's delay tactics in his other cases have been
remarkably successful, so this case is going to be the one that dominates the news pre-election.
And in that regard, there is a lot of bad news for Trump. For starters, the basic
allegations are simple. He paid off women he slept with to stay quiet and then falsified business
records to cover it up. That's not nearly as complicated as the RICO case in Georgia or the
business fraud case in New York. Second, he's stuck in court four days a week for the next two months,
which might be the worst news for him. One of Trump's great
strengths as a politician is campaigning, and now he is essentially locked in New York for 60% of
the week, right as Biden's campaign goes full throttle. Third, and finally, most people believe
Trump did something wrong here. Even though only roughly one in three Americans think Trump is
guilty, roughly 70% of the country already believes he acted
illegally or unethically. So a lot of priors are going to get confirmed. The best thing Trump has
going for him is that he'll get to use the buzz around the case to make himself a victim of an
overzealous district attorney. But for the millions of voters figuring out what to do in 2024,
weeks of salacious news stories and two months of being limited on the campaign trail
are just not good news for Trump, no matter how you slice it.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered.
Today's question is from Keith in Pennsylvania. Keith said,
what are your thoughts regarding the U.S. government allotting billions of dollars in
foreign assistance to other countries every year when the U.S. national debt is more than $34
trillion and growing daily? I get that the U.S. uses foreign aid as a tool to further its interests
abroad, to provide military support, and to promote democratic and humanitarian outcomes
for the benefits of people worldwide. Shouldn't we be using a lot of that money here at home
for infrastructure, education, health, energy, crime, homeless vets, especially considering
our increasing debt? Okay, so I think I'd be remiss if I didn't start off by trying to put our foreign aid payments
in perspective. The federal government obligated $70.4 billion in foreign aid in 2022,
which is a lot of money, but that's only 1% of total federal spending. For a long time,
Israel received the most military funding from the U.S. of any country until Russia attacked Ukraine, but in 2023, it got just $3.6 billion in military aid. As I like to remind readers,
anytime we talk about the national debt or federal spending deficits, if you want to decrease
spending, then you have to focus on where we're spending the most. That means healthcare, the
military, and social security, which I'll talk more about in a future reader question. On that note, $659 billion of last year's federal budget was spent on interest
payments. That's almost 10x the amount spent on foreign aid, and it's more than was spent on
Medicaid. Bringing deficit spending down will decrease the government's loan obligations,
which then lowers the growing amount of our federal budget that is allocated to paying off interest. That alone provides good reason to want to
rein in our spending. But I don't think foreign aid is the best place to do so.
First of all, you're right. Foreign aid is a tool to further its interests abroad,
to provide military support, and to promote democratic and humanitarian outcomes for the
benefits of people worldwide. It's also
an investment in our national security. Put differently, a lot of U.S. foreign aid money
is money that's spent addressing domestic issues. I know that's counterintuitive, but consider
something like this. One of the most pressing issues in the country right now is the security
of our southern border. We don't have the infrastructure to handle migrant searches,
we don't have the personnel to prevent drug smuggling and human trafficking, and we don't have the infrastructure to handle migrant searches. We don't have the personnel to prevent drug smuggling and human trafficking.
And we don't have the judges to speedily process asylum claims.
I'm a person who is very interested in resolving those issues.
But one of the most cost-effective tools we have in mitigating all of them is foreign aid.
If we can help the governments of Nicaragua or Honduras or Venezuela or Haiti with their
domestic issues, that means fewer people will
need to flee their homes. Nobody wants to become a refugee. And if we can put a relatively small
portion of our federal budget towards preventing that, then it's a win-win. It's money that doesn't
have to go to increase border security or more asylum judges, and it's money well spent.
All right, that is it for today's reader question, which brings us to our Under the Radar section.
Americans spent more than economists expected in March, with retail sales rising 0.7% despite persistent inflation and other economic challenges. The increase was double what
economists expected and comes after spending rose 0.9% in February, a figure that was revised upward.
This snapshot offers just a partial look at consumer spending and doesn't include things like travel or hotels, but it did record an uptick of 0.4% spending at restaurants.
Retail sales aren't increasing just because prices are going up, Ted Rossman, senior industry analyst at Bankrate,
said. Americans are actually buying more stuff. This is one of the strongest retail sales reports
we've seen in the past couple of years. ABC has the surprising story, and there's a link to it
in today's episode description. All right, next up is the numbers section. The percentage of Americans who said they believe Donald Trump did falsify business
records to conceal a hush money payment is 48%, according to an Economist YouGov poll
released last week.
The percentage of Americans who said they believe Trump did not falsify business records
to conceal a hush money payment is 26%.
The percentage of Americans who think Trump will get a fair trial in New York is 36%, while the percentage who do not think that is 26%. The percentage of Americans who think Trump will get a fair trial in New York is
36%, while the percentage who do not think that is 42%. The percentage of Americans who think it
is likely Trump will be convicted of a crime in the hush money case is 40%, while the percentage
who think it is unlikely is 38%. And the percentage of Americans who think the charges that Trump
falsified business records related to hush money payments are serious is 57%, while just 37% think the charges that Trump
falsified business records related to hush money payments are not serious.
All right, and last but not least, our have a nice day section.
A recent poll from Pew Research Center shows that more teenagers than you might think are
conscious of the positive and negative aspects of smartphone use. In an online survey from last year
of 1,453 US teens between the ages of 13 and 17 and their parents, 72% of the teens said they
often feel peaceful without their smartphone while only 44% said it gives them a kind of separation
anxiety. 70% of those surveyed said that the negatives of their smartphone, while only 44% said it gives them a kind of separation anxiety.
70% of those surveyed said that the negatives of their smartphone outweigh the positives.
Furthermore, many more teens say they spend the right amount of time on social media at 64%, then say they spend too much time at 27%.
Pew has the survey, and there's a link to it in today's episode description.
in today's episode description.
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Have a good one.
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Talk to your pharmacist or doctor about getting a flu shot.
Consider FluCellVax Quad and help protect yourself from the flu.
It's the first cell-based flu vaccine authorized in Canada for ages 6 months and older,
and it may be available for free in your province.
Side effects and allergic reactions can occur, and 100% protection is not guaranteed.
Learn more at flucellvax.ca.