Tangle - Tulsi Gabbard reignites "Russiagate."

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

On Friday, Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard announced the release of files that allegedly show President Barack Obama and his national security cabinet members concocted... a false narrative of Russian interference in the 2016 election. DNI Gabbard claimed the documents showed a “treasonous conspiracy” to overturn Donald Trump’s electoral victory, posting on X that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) will be turning the documents over to the Department of Justice for criminal referral.Ad-free podcasts are here!Many listeners have been asking for an ad-free version of this podcast that they could subscribe to — and we finally launched it. You can go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, our “Under the Radar” story ⁠here and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.Take the survey: How would you describe Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential election? Let us know!Disagree? That's okay. My opinion is just one of many. Write in and let us know why, and we'll consider publishing your feedback.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by: Isaac Saul and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Hunter Casperson, Kendall White, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Condition supply details at freedommobile.ca. From executive producer, Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. And on today's episode, we're going to be talking about the DNI report that is the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard's report that came out last week, which has been drummed up as maybe a potentially massive
Starting point is 00:01:29 scandal with president Barack Obama at the center. We're gonna talk about exactly what the report says and what we have learned from it. And this is one of those ones where I definitely have a lot of thoughts from writing and reporting about a lot of this stuff over the last eight or nine years. So we're gonna jump into that. Before we do though, a quick heads up that on Friday,
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'm gonna be releasing a members only edition a little bit different. I'm gonna be writing about the things I've gotten right that is correct. I realized a couple of weeks ago when we did the five things I got wrong about Trump piece that a lot of the kind of reflective naval gazing pieces that we've done
Starting point is 00:02:08 in Tangle are ones where I'm writing about stuff that I've gotten wrong. And I don't want you to think I'm a total idiot. Otherwise, why come to Tangle? There's actually a good deal of stuff that I've written in the last six months that I've been pretty right about. So I'm gonna take some victory laps for once, maybe pat myself on the back a little bit and talk about some of the analysis or writing that I've done in Tangle that has panned out pretty well. So I'm excited for this.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It will be a much less painful exercise than the one that I normally do, which I'm looking forward to. With that, I'm going to send it over to John for today's main topic and I'll be back for my take. Thanks Isaac and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, President Donald Trump announced a trade deal with Japan that includes 15% tariffs on Japanese exports and a decrease of levies on Japanese auto exports from 25% to 15%. Separately, President Trump announced a trade deal with the Philippines that will place
Starting point is 00:03:11 a 19% tariff on Filipino exports. 2. House Speaker Mike Johnson sent members on summer recess early in lieu of holding votes on releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Johnson said the decision was intended to give the Trump administration time to determine how to proceed. Separately, a House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee voted to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex offender and Epstein's longtime associate.
Starting point is 00:03:37 3. A federal appeals court said President Trump can continue restricting the Associated Press's access to restricted spaces, such as the Oval Office and Air Force One, while the decision is challenged in court. 4. General Motors reported that its net income shrank 35 percent in Q2, attributing the decrease to new tariffs on imported cars and auto parts. The manufacturer said it expects greater impacts from tariffs in Q3. 5. Manufacturers said it expects greater impacts from tariffs in Q3. And number five, Columbia University announced a disciplinary action against over 70 students
Starting point is 00:04:09 who participated in the anti-Israel campus protests earlier this year. The actions come as the school negotiates with the Trump administration over approximately $400 million in withheld funds over its purported failure to address anti-Semitism on campus. President Trump's Epstein controversy made headlines Friday saw also did a report from the office of the director of national intelligence. That report claims to have new evidence of an Obama administration conspiracy to subvert President Trump's 2016 victory and presidency. This report claims politicized intelligence was used as the basis for smears seeking to
Starting point is 00:04:57 delegitimize President Trump's victory. On Friday, director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announced the release of files that allegedly show President Barack Obama and his National Security Cabinet members concocted a false narrative of Russian interference in the 2016 election. DNI Gabbard claimed the documents showed a treasonous conspiracy to overturn Donald Trump's electoral victory, posting on X that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence will be turning the documents over to the Department of Justice for criminal referral. For context, in January 2017, following President Trump's election in 2016, what would be later
Starting point is 00:05:34 known as the Steele dossier, an unverified opposition research report alleging that Trump conspired with Russia to boost his candidacy, was published by BuzzFeed News. Also in 2017, the ODNI released an assessment finding that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign to undermine U.S. faith in its elections, denigrate Democratic nominee Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and support Russia's clear preference for President-elect Trump through social media campaigns and hacking groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. The Justice Department then appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate possible collusion between Trump and Russia. Mueller's 2019 report concluded that Russia
Starting point is 00:06:15 had interfered in the 2016 U.S. election, including hacking the Democratic National Committee email servers and coordinating leaks of its content, but did not find sufficient evidence to prosecute President Trump or members of his campaign for conspiring with Russia. Subsequent Senate Intelligence Committee hearings also confirmed these findings, including that Russia did not hack voting machines or alter votes. In her announcement, D&I-Gabbert alleged that President Obama and members of the intelligence community ignored benign intelligence reports to create a narrative of Russia-Trump collusion ODNI's report shows that talking points developed for then-DNI James Clapper stated that foreign adversaries did not use cyberattacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome.
Starting point is 00:07:12 However, following a December 9th meeting between President Obama, Clapper, and other members of the intelligence community, Clapper's executive assistant sent a memo directing the intelligence community to create the January assessment detailing tools Moscow used and actions it took to influence the 2016 election. Gabbard claims that the report and its leak to the Washington Post are evidence of a conspiracy to subvert the will of the people. Many Republicans took the DNI report as proof of an attempted coup. President Trump posted on Truth Social that Obama, Clinton, and then Vice President Biden had participated
Starting point is 00:07:46 in the crime of the century and should be investigated by the Justice Department. Conversely, Democrats criticized Gabbard's report as baseless. President Obama also issued a rare response to these claims. These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction, Obama's office said in a statement. our allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction," Obama's office said in a statement. Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election but did not successfully manipulate any votes.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Today, we'll get into what the left and the right are saying about the DNI report, and then Isaac's tape. We'll be right back after this quick break. This episode is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint, things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little too loose. Maybe it's a little too flimsy. Or maybe it's a little too covered in dirt because your best friend distracted you and you dropped it on the ground. There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect. The pre-roll.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Shop the Summer Pre-Roll and Infuse Pre-Rroll sale today at ocs.ca and participating retailers. Say hello savings and goodbye worries with Freedom Mobile. Get 60 gigs to use in Canada, the US and Mexico for just 39 bucks a month. Plus get a one-time use of five gigs of Roam Beyond data. Conditions apply details at freedommobile.ca. Alright, first up, let's start with what the left is saying. The left describes Gabbard's findings as implausible and at odds with past reports endorsed by Republicans.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Some say the report is an attempt to distract the public from the Jeffrey Epstein story. Others argue Gabbard's conclusions are deliberately misleading. In CNN, Aaron Blake wrote, Gabbard's Russian interference claims directly contradict what other Trump officials have said. When Donald Trump sided with Vladimir Putin over his own intelligence community on the topic of Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. election, then-Senator Marco Rubio sharply rebuked Trump. The Florida Republican said in 2018 that the intelligence community's assessment of 2016
Starting point is 00:10:07 is accurate. It's 100% accurate. The Russians interfered in our elections, Blake said. But seven years later, it just keeps happening, over and over again, as Trump and his most loyal allies seek to sow doubts about the 2016 episode and punish their political enemies. That's now taken the form of Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard threatening criminal referrals and even floating allegations of treason for key officials in the Obama administration. Gabbard's commentary is especially striking when juxtaposed with those she serves within
Starting point is 00:10:39 the second Trump administration. Rubio didn't just rebuke Trump for siding with Putin's denials back in 2018. He also spearheaded the Senate Intelligence Committee's big, bipartisan Russia report in 2020, Blake wrote. The report concluded that Russia had engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence or attempt to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. It not only said that Russia had interfered, but also that it had done so to benefit Trump. In USA Today, Chris Brennan argued Gabbard yells Russia hoax to distract MAGA from Epstein
Starting point is 00:11:12 for Trump. Tulsi Gabbard was on the outs, literally and figuratively, with President Trump last month after contradicting him about Iran's nuclear program, which he was about to bomb. Gabbard, Trump's director of national intelligence, was shut out of planning meetings about Iran's nuclear program, which he was about to bomb. Gabbard, Trump's director of national intelligence, was shut out of planning meetings about Iran and pushed to the intelligence sidelines for asserting that Iran had not been trying to build a nuclear weapon, Brennan said. She needed a way back inside Trump's bubble. The president's new Epstein-Files scandal offered an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Gabbard dug deep into the classics of Trump's hoax claims. She's claiming Obama's team manufactured intelligence to hobble Trump's impending presidency after he won. There's a hole in that theory. The Obama administration said shortly after the 2016 presidential election that hackers had not tampered with the election results, Brennan room. Gabbard is dredging back up Russian interference because American voters just don't buy what Trump has tried to sell them about the Epstein files
Starting point is 00:12:06 That his administration is still keeping secret after he promised during last year's campaign to make them public In tech dirt Mike Masnick said Gabbard uses the Twitter files playbook to mislead The pattern is always identical release narrow technical documents that most people won't understand, surround them with inflammatory innuendo, then hand them off to gullible rubes like Matt Taibbi, who will falsely claim the biggest scandal in history just dropped," Masnick wrote. Here's what actually happened. Russia absolutely tried to influence the 2016 election, primarily to sow chaos and division in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:12:44 This generally involved supporting Trump, who brought more chaos and division in the U.S. This generally involved supporting Trump, who brought more chaos, and attacking Hillary Clinton, whom Putin despised from her time as Secretary of State. This basic fact has been confirmed over and over again by multiple investigations, including those led by Republicans. The original report was narrowly focused on one thing that was widely known. No successful hack impacted the actual election. But it's being used to pretend it proves that the Russians didn't try to influence the election
Starting point is 00:13:11 at all, a thing we already knew they absolutely did," Mastin said. Gabbard then misrepresents Obama's request to the intelligence agency, following that initial assessment, to write an analysis about Russian attempts to influence the election as a whole. That is, having seen the NARA report about a lack of success in hacking in to change votes, the request was a broader look at the many ways which Russia simply tried to influence the election, which is something entirely different than hacking voting infrastructure. These two things are not in conflict at all.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Alright that is it for what the left is saying, which brings us to what the right is saying. The right mostly views Gabbard's announcement as a major revelation that confirms Obama and others conspired to target Trump. Some contend the leaders of this effort should face criminal prosecution. Others say Republicans have resurfaced this story to their own detriment. In Racket News, Matt Taibbi suggested Obama is now squarely in Russiagate crosshairs. The documents in the chain show that not only former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper's office, but others, including the FBI, were relatively unconcerned about Russian interference.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Figures like Virginia Senator and key Russiagate figure Mark Warner are already dismissing Gabbard's report as an attempt to cook the books by comparing apples and oranges, the apples being Russian efforts to attack election infrastructure, the oranges being influence operations, Tayibbi wrote. But emails dating back to September 2016 show a dismissive attitude towards both concepts, as well as a lack of conviction about Russia's ability to impact or disrupt the election outcome in any way. In sum, just before Obama was to receive a briefing that contained no reference to significant
Starting point is 00:15:03 Russian interference, the briefing was called off and a high-level meeting of White House security officials was convened, after which Obama himself tasked them with a new assessment that would lean toward a more aggressive conclusion," Tayyibi said. It's suspicious that a presidential daily briefing was postponed to make way for the intelligence community assessment ordered at Obama's request, fishier yet that the evidence that Putin intended to help Trump came from a classified annex containing steel dossier material. In Fox News, Greg Jarrett wrote about how Obama and cronies created Trump-Russia hoax
Starting point is 00:15:37 and what happens next. Newly revealed documents showed that in 2016, then-President Barack Obama and his national security team manufactured and politicized phony intelligence to help frame Donald Trump as a Russian asset when they knew it was untrue, Jared said. Treason is a strong term with an exceedingly high legal standard. So too is seditious conspiracy. The use of violence or force is often a central element for both. Closer to the mark are the other serious crimes.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They include conspiracy to defraud the government and deprivation of rights under the color of the law. That is, using knowingly false or fabricated evidence to support a case against Trump and to obstruct or impair a lawful government function such as an election. The FBI is reportedly examining the possibility of bringing a grand conspiracy case that would encompass many of the above noted acts that were intended to unduly influence three presidential elections, 2016, 2020, and 2024, Jarrett wrote. The advantage of adopting this legal avenue is twofold.
Starting point is 00:16:41 First, it would extend any expired statute of limitations to the date of more recent overt acts such as the raid on Mar-a-Lago or events thereafter. Second, it would allow any prosecutions to be brought in a venue other than Washington, D.C., where the endemic bias of jurors make it nearly impossible to gain convictions. In National Review, Andrew C. McCarthy said, Gabbard makes a frivolous argument. The Trump administration's decision to revive this episode while titillating for the MAGA political base is self-sabotage. That is mainly because, after months of scrutiny, the Trump CIA has reaffirmed the ICA's conclusion that 1.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Russia sought to interfere in the 2016 election and 2. Did so in order to denigrate Hillary Clinton," McCarthy wrote. The public position of President Trump and his most ardent supporters, the position that Gabbard reiterates, is that Russiagate was a total hoax, a complete fabrication by Democrats without a shred of truth to it, concocted to undermine his presidency. This has always been a foolish stance. The Democrats' caterwalling that Russia stole the 2016 election from Clinton was nonsense.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It has long been widely recognized for what it is, a fever dream by which Democrats sought to avoid conceding the true cause of the party's loss, its nomination of a deeply unpopular, scandal-scarred, politically flat-footed candidate, McCarthy said. Yet, by claiming that there was no evidence of Russian interference, the Trump camp invites correction, including now from the Trump administration's own CIA, and thereby turns into a matter of consequence, something that was utterly inconsequential. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take. All right, that is it for the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take. I've been writing this newsletter long enough that I know when to expect blowback from all
Starting point is 00:18:38 comers and today is one of those days. From the left, I'm going to be told that story is old news, that I'm falling for misinformation Gabbert is willfully spreading to distract from more important stories, and that Trump is an obvious Russia stooge. From the right, I'll be told that I can't see the generational scandal in front of me, that I'm protecting a nameless cabal
Starting point is 00:18:59 of democratic politicians and officials, and that I hate Trump so much I can't see how obvious it is that his presidency was sabotaged by the quote-unquote deep state So let me start by asking you to try to abandon the emotional attachment you may have to one narrative or another and Honestly evaluate the facts and events in hand for the left. Yes These stories are about events from nearly a decade ago Yes Yes, these stories are about events from nearly a decade ago. Yes, they are still relevant because the new report alleges a generational scandal that, if true, demands accountability and investigation. They're also relevant because the alleged target, Donald Trump, is sitting in the White
Starting point is 00:19:36 House and promising to launch an investigation to hold the accused accountable. For the right, no, I'm not personally invested in downplaying purported scandals that implicate the Obama administration. No, I'm not blind to the failings of the Russia investigation that dominated Trump's first term. In fact, in 2023, I wrote a deep dive about everything the media got wrong on the Trump-Russia story. And no, I don't hate President Trump and I'm not incapable of applauding his achievements or saying when he's been wronged. As simply as I can say, I'm going to try to tell you exactly what we knew about this story before Gabbard's report and exactly what we know now after its release. So you can see for yourself whether you think the report is meaningful.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So before the release, we knew that the Obama administration believed Russia was trying to influence the 2016 election. We knew that they did not think Russia penetrated our voting infrastructure or changed any votes. We knew that they determined Russia was influencing the election to help Trump and hurt Clinton. We knew that intelligence officials inside the Obama administration had different assessments of the threat that sometimes diverged, and that they ended up relying on a lot of shoddy intelligence, like the Steele dossier, to surveil Trump and the Trump campaign. We knew that Obama's intelligence agencies
Starting point is 00:20:52 regularly leaked materials to the press that produced alarming and increasingly breathless coverage tying Trump to Russia's meddling campaign. We knew that Obama and his top intelligence officials were worried their assessment would be buried by the incoming Trump administration, so they did everything they could to leave a paper trail of what they found. There's actually a fascinating New York Times article from 2017 on this very thing that's linked to in today's episode description. After the release, we know
Starting point is 00:21:20 that the Obama administration believed Russia was trying to influence the 2016 election. We know that they did not think Russia ever penetrated our voting infrastructure or changed any votes. We know that they determined Russia was influencing the election to help Trump and hurt Clinton. We know that the day before the FBI was going to deliver a private intelligence report to Obama, assessing that Russia had not hacked our election infrastructure, the Bureau withdrew that report. We know that Obama then requested that several agencies collaborate on a public intelligence report explaining their assessment that, while Russia was not trying to hack our voting system,
Starting point is 00:21:54 they were trying to influence the election via the hacking of DNC emails and the promotion of anti-Clinton messaging. We know that a rough outline of that report detailing Russia's efforts to influence the election immediately leaked to the press. We know that Obama and his top intelligence officials were worried this assessment would be buried by the incoming Trump administration, so they did everything they could to leave a paper trail of what they found. You can listen to those differences a few times to be sure, but to me, the second paragraph adds a minuscule detail to a story we already understood quite well.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Matt Taibbi, who has been one of the foremost journalists covering the media's mishandling of Russiagate and the scandalous way in which the intelligence community hobbled Trump, published a series of overstated pieces following the release that overtly implied Obama could be in the crosshairs of an investigation and senior members of his team may actually end up in prison. Yet even in his own reporting, many paragraphs in,
Starting point is 00:22:50 Taibbi gets down to the brass tacks. Quote, some of this timeline was known, but the sudden ditching of a tepid PDB and ordering of a new report per the president's request with emails conspicuously invoking POTUS tasking never surfaced before." End quote. And that really is the whole story, right there in one sentence, though I'd argue that almost all of this timeline was known already. I don't say that to denigrate Taibbi, whose original and critical reporting over the last nine years has unearthed a lot of information that has helped me better understand this
Starting point is 00:23:22 timeline. Unlike the mainstream media, which often conflated election meddling with vote-altering or intrusion of election infrastructure, Taibbi has long been more precise in his description of what happened in the lead-up to the 2016 election. But I wonder if he might be so tied to telling a particular version of events that his own writing is now veering off into sensationalism and enthusiastically trying to prove this story is the huge scandal he has long suggested it was. Andrew McCarthy, who literally wrote one of the seminal books on this time period titled
Starting point is 00:23:55 Ball of Collusion, the Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency, saw Gabbard's Mountain for the Mole Hill that it is. His lengthy response to Gabbard is worth reading in full, but here's the thrust of it in his words, quote, no new light is shed on this episode by Gabbard's email disclosures last Friday, which unsurprisingly were accompanied by an overwrought and misleading press release rather than analytical report.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Gabbard sees this one directive following a single meeting as the root cause of countless smears against Trump, a years long Mueller investigation, two congressional impeachments, the arrest of high level officials, and heightened US-Russia tensions. In the real world, as McCarthy noted,
Starting point is 00:24:37 neither of Trump's impeachments had anything to do with Trump-Russia collusion allegations. It's fair to argue the Trump-Russia narrative made him illegitimate in many Democrats' eyes, but one impeachment was for his call with Zelensky, and the other one was for January 6. The Mueller probe did actually conclusively find no actionable evidence of Trump-Russia conclusion, though it also assessed that Russia interfered in the election, a conclusion affirmed by Senate and House Republican investigations,
Starting point is 00:25:05 as well as Trump's current CIA director earlier this month for what it's worth. No Trump officials have been prosecuted or thrown in jail for anything related to the January 2017 intelligence report or the Steele dossier. And US-Russia relations were plenty strained already by Russia annexing Crimea and hacking DNC emails.
Starting point is 00:25:26 This is all just to say Gabbard's report tells us almost nothing new. Not that Trump wasn't unfairly targeted in 2017. Again, I've written in detail about what we now know from that period and the Trump-Russia collusion theory was vastly overstated and veered into mania. It was fed by a circular information ecosystem between reporters and intelligence leakers, became a scandal of its own that shoddy intelligence and bad journalism compounded, and led to a soon-to-be elected president getting spied on by the U.S. government. At the same time, the Trump administration did invite much of that
Starting point is 00:26:02 scrutiny by opening its doors to Russian actors who wanted to help the campaign. Also, our intelligence community did assess Russia meddled in the election. Russia did leak DNC emails. Trump did egg on a lot of it. And some of Trump's top campaign aides, like Paul Manafort, were indeed some of the shadiest, most corrupt peopleS. politics who were charged and convicted for genuine crimes. All of those things can be true at once. Gabbard's report, to the degree that it tells us anything, reinforces that intelligence officials in the Obama administration disagreed about how successful Russian efforts were
Starting point is 00:26:37 and about how to communicate its information to the public. Ultimately, the report reads like a screed of old grievances bundled into scandal sounding intelligence designed to get Trump's attention, which it has. Given how much Gabbard has fallen out of favor with Trump recently, maybe Aaron Blake, under what the left is saying, is right, that this was all an effort to get back in his good graces and distract from the Epstein drama.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Maybe it is also the product of her being unqualified for the job and conspiracy minded. Or maybe it is a willful misrepresentation for other purposes I don't quite understand. Whatever the actual motivation behind the release of this insubstantial report, none of them reflects well on Gabbard or her office. We'll be right back after this quick break. 5 gigs of Roam Beyond data. Condition supply details at freedommobile.ca. This episode is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint,
Starting point is 00:27:50 things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little too loose. Maybe it's a little too flimsy. Or maybe it's a little too covered in dirt because your best friend distracted you and you dropped it on the ground. There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect.
Starting point is 00:28:07 The pre-roll. Shop the summer pre-roll and infuse pre-roll sale today at ocs.ca and participating retailers. All right. That is it for my take. I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a good one. Peace. Thanks, Isaac.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. In January, President Trump announced a joint venture between OpenAI, SoftBank, and Oracle to build artificial intelligence infrastructure in the United States with an expected commitment of $500 billion over the next four years. However, in the month since, the project has struggled to gain traction, failing to complete a single deal for an AI data center and scaling back its first-year goals. Softbank and OpenAI have reportedly been at odds over the terms of the collaboration, such as the location of the data centers.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Leaders of both companies maintain that the partnership is on track and recently committed to building 10 gigawatts of data centers together, though further specifics were not given. The Wall Street Journal has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. Alright, next up is our numbers section. There are 114 pages of documents released by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard reporting to show U.S. intelligence community's suppression of intelligence related to the 2016 election. According to a July 2018 Ipsos poll, 60% of U.S. adults said they believe that Russia
Starting point is 00:29:39 interfered with the 2016 presidential election, 85% of Democrats said they believed that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, and 75% of Republicans said that they believed that the FBI's investigation and actions around the 2016 elections were the result of political bias against President Trump. According to a May 2023 survey, 43% of Tangle readers said the Trump-Russia investigation was an attempt to hurt Trump politically and should not have been conducted. 42% of Tangle readers said that the investigation was sloppily done, but there were good reasons to start it. And 7% of Tangle readers said the investigation was conducted reasonably and uncovered serious
Starting point is 00:30:18 criminal acts. And last but not least, our Have a Nice Day story. Once found across Australia, the Shark Bay Bandicoot faces critical endangerment due to disease, predators, and human impact. Fewer than 3,000 are left in the wild, and they're mostly confined to islands in their eponymous region in Western Australia. But in 2023, ecologists at the Australian Wildlife Conservancy began reintroducing the bandicoots elsewhere, starting by releasing 66 in the Pilaga State Conservation Area.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Population growth was confirmed in 2024, and this summer ecologists spotted a family of shark bay bandicoots on a trail camp. It definitely made our day seeing the photo of the three young bandicoots scurrying to keep up with their mum, ecologist Maisie Duffin said. Good, good, good has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, please go to readtangle.com where you can sign up
Starting point is 00:31:15 for a newsletter membership, podcast membership, or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off. Have a great day, y'all. Peace. Our executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Saul, and our executive producer is John Law.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Today's episode was edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our editorial staff is led by managing editor Ari Weitzman with senior editor Will K. Back and associate editors Hunter Kaspersen, Audrey Moorhead, Bailey Saul, Lindsay Knuth and Kendall White. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75. To learn more about Tangle and to sign up for a membership, please visit our website at retangle.com. This episode is sponsored by the OCS Summer Pre-Roll Sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint, things can turn out a little differently than what you expected. Maybe it's a little too loose, maybe it's a little too flimsy, or maybe it's a little
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