Taskmaster The Podcast - Ep 54. Liza Tarbuck – S12 Ep.8

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

On the podcast this week Ed is joined by presenter, actress and Taskmaster legend – Liza Tarbuck! Liza and Ed discuss all things Series 6, including of course, the iconic Alex sitting on a cake moment. As well as this they get forensic over Series 12 Ep 8 and answer some listener emails.  Watch Series 12 of Taskmaster every Thursday on Channel 4 at 9pm. Download the Taskmaster App at Taskmaster.tv Watch all of the Taskmaster on All 4https://www.channel4.com/programmes/taskmaster Order Bring me the head of the Taskmaster https://taskmasterstore.com/products/bring-me-the-head-of-the-taskmaster Get in touch with Ed and future guests:[e-mail]  Visit the Taskmaster Youtube channelwww.youtube.com/taskmaster  Taskmaster the Podcast is Produced by Daisy Knight for AvalonTelevision  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations, how a cannabis company markets its products in such a highly regulated

category, and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. Hello and welcome to the Taskmaster podcast with me, Ed Gamble. It's an exciting one today. We're getting towards the end of Series 12 of Taskmaster. What a series it has been. We're on Episode 8 already. And today we'll be chatting about that episode, Series 12, episode 8, with the wonderful Lisa Tarbuck. Yes, it's Lisa Tarbuck from series 6 of Taskmaster and also everything else. It's Lisa Tarbuck. She's a British legend, for God's sake.

Very much looking forward to chatting to her. She will also be, of course, in Champion of Champions. She won series 6. So I will be facing off against Liza, a true competitor, a true Taskmaster hero, in Champion of Champions. We're not going to discuss that because we don't want you to know anything about it.

But safe to say, it was a clash. A clash for the ages. But today we're not here to talk about that. We are here to talk about Series 12 Episode 8. You can, of course, watch Series 12 Episode 8 if you've not seen that already. Go to talk about series 12 episode 8 you can of course watch series 12 episode 8 if you've not seen that already you go to all four and watch it but of course you are true Taskmaster fans so you are watching Taskmaster go out every Thursday at 9pm on channel 4 but now let's chat to Lisa. Welcome Lisa to the Taskmaster podcast. Finally, finally, we get there, Mr. G.

We did it. You made it. I've been dying to, obviously, because I love it so much. I love this programme. I love the concept of it. I love the energy of it. And I can guarantee I'll have one really good laugh every time I watch it. And, you know, that is not to be mocked. No, exactly. You can't say that about many shows where you know you're going to get something out of every single episode.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Well, it's such a pleasure to have you on. I'm sorry it's taken so long, Lisa. We're, you know, we're looking forward to chatting to you, of of course about your series in the future as well when we get to your series but it's nice to know you're such a massive fan of the show anyway so you're happy to talk about any of it uh you bet I am I I really am I I saved them I think that they're you know you can go in at any time and have a bit of a yeah I mean we'll get to that when we yeah I'm sure we will i'm sure we will um but what let's

talk about your time on taskmaster before we get stuck in series 12 episode 8 um i think i think we know now already after what you've said there but did you have a good time on taskmaster i really enjoyed it really i i think the it's an interesting thing for somebody over a certain age who's had various um dealings within the um how should we say within the the medium of television yeah that uh it's very difficult to let go of control because you've been shafted so many times in the past so that going through and into it is a really big trust thing and I watch the programs and see how healing it is for people over a certain age and that is a sort of silent energy of the program that just keeps giving yeah so if somebody tells me say like Alan says oh I'm going on it it's like oh i can't wait to

watch you getting better in ways you didn't even know you weren't better in it it's a confusing thing but it is down to the intention of the show i think i i think i know i think i know what you're saying in that it's you do have to sort of relinquish relinquish trust with taskmaster you relinquish control and if you are your own product as we all are that's sometimes quite difficult like i say particularly if you've been you've had bad experiences in the past so with the relinquishing of control the possibilities that that pop up are often unexpected and often really joyful yeah so you either decide you're going to get on board or you're going to do it in a reluctant fashion and it's going to be done for you yeah I think

they're very good I mean Alex is very good at picking people for the show who do who can relinquish that control a little bit yeah and aren't going to be difficult and you just I think from watching it you're right you can see that Alex is someone to be trusted it's never his intention to make someone look stupid in a mean way oh no certainly not I tell you one of the most interesting things and it was a real tangible thing when you're doing the tasks in the house obviously obviously it's just you, you're on your own, unless it's the team tasks where you join. But when you're on your own in the house and the whole crew and all the props, they're all yours. Then you get to the studio

and suddenly your house husband, i.e. Alex, is having a relationship with other people and an exclusive relationship with Greg. Actually, I found the first theatre, you know, when we first went into studio, I found that really like, oh. Oh, I thought, oh. And it took me, I'd say, it took me about probably an hour of filming just to be able to get over it. Yeah, I know what you mean because you know it's happening. You know he's doing tasks with other people.

But to see it on screen is absolutely shocking, isn't it? It was more for me. It was more sort of like the backstage thing of having little sly asides and giggling. Just think, no, no, no, no. That's mine. Yeah, he's got jokes with other people. He's got private jokes with other people.

How dare you? Yeah, I found that really interesting. But he did say to me, he said, that's an unexpected gift that happens on first studio day. I was like, oh, I love that as well. And then realising, ah, right, okay. Because you've got no control over what's being shown. You know it's been edited to bugger him back

because we have cameras that are there to catch everything. Yeah, of course. And so the idea of sitting back and looking at your film when you have no idea what's come out and only half an idea of what you actually did because you do so many. Yeah. So, God, I i loved it i loved the

unexpectedness of it and um and making new pals with the other contestants yeah you had a you had a really nice bunch on yours i mean i said that all all of them are nice bunches oh all of them yeah although i have to say i um this this uh 12, I think they're just lovely. Yeah, they are. They really are. They are lovely, bringing out really, again, another different thing, particularly Desiree, actually, for me. Desiree is brilliant, isn't she?

Oh, she's fabulous. I could listen to her speak all the time. She's like, who's that guy, Henning Ven? Yes, yeah, yeah, just a lovely rhythm rhythm he uses English in a very particular way and um I adore that because it it throws different meanings on stuff or or forces other things out that you oh well of course now you've said it so I remember saying to Henning Ven I love the way you speak English and he got the raving needle with me I was insulting him just like

it's like no no no it's the particular way you speak it it's not about you speak having a second language but yeah I'm loving this But your time on Taskmaster, Lisa, do you have any particular highlights that stick in the memory of things that you did that you're like,

yes, this is what I would hold up to represent my time on Taskmaster? Actually, I think I enjoyed most of the tasks. I think if we go back to the beginning, I can't remember what the very first one was the um weird fly creature coming down the zip cord yes um and that was just oh I that was um kid in the candy store because I'd seen all the props and just make make it my business to go and have a right good nose round which I did and um and be, and I am an absolute sod for gaffer tape. Look at all the colors, you know?

And so knowing as well, that was a very educational one for me to start with it. Did I like it? No, I thought it was really weird. And I think Greg taught me to task in exactly the right way. But you have to stand by it, cause you've done it

yeah yeah and that's another bit of magic you were there this is what came to mind then you have to stand by it but you do have to you know you do have to enter into it with full uh con brio as they might say in an italian opera situation exactly um i mean there's there's so many highlights from your your time on task master lisa i mean there is one moment that i'd imagine gets brought up to you more than more than others yeah which would be the cake the cake sitting which closed out the whole series and quite rightly because i think if you put that halfway through people are still thinking about it by the time the next episode's finished how good a sport was alex for that yeah obviously

an amazing sport and sitting down in alex's revelation that he was open when he sat down on the cake the one thing that was missing from that was the actual uh um noises because it would it really would have been gilding the lily to add them but the noise of that we we were replaying quite a lot afterwards because it because it was a proper suction sound so when he said they went up it i know they went up so you said they took noises they took noises off yeah i think so because it was just too much it was just too much honestly it was i knew it was it's really strange when i was given tasks i i got it really quickly you know sometimes you sit there and and you're like what the hell am i gonna do and that happened

a bit but it didn't happen much because you know once you're flaying around like um if you've got a butterfly brain and I have you think well I could do that I could do what about that and um and the mood you're in on the day of course because there was one one morning where I just felt like a caged tiger and then that that was the morning they gave me you know they they blindfolded us and bundled us in a car. Yeah. And then they stuck us in a wardrobe in the field. I couldn't have been happier.

I really was happy. But back to the cake, I knew straight away, I'm very interested in melding one's senses. I think I use the word transpose, which is a musical term. Yeah. Like taking a sheet of piano music and transposing it for guitar. But actually I think the word I should have used was transmute. So that you are sensorily feeling this.

Now it's up to you to put it into words. That's what I meant. Yeah. Because sometimes, you know, when you're in love, well, you know, when you're in love. Yeah. Cause you, it's just on your face, Mr. Gamble. But, but you, the, you know, that awful question when you're 15, what are you thinking? Yeah. You can't do, you can't ever ask that, but you could maybe, I don't know.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I mean, it's all leading up to getting Alex Horne to sit on a cake. So I'm interested to see the direction. But it's such a, I don't think. It's about the feeling. Put the feeling into words. Because I, yeah, I don't know how, but I do know how to give you the feeling.

So that morning you were feeling, your feeling, the only way you could put it into words or actions was to make alex horn sit on the cake to use alex horn yeah but although i was very specific about the cake because there had to be quite a lot of and they did me proud yeah there had to be um the confectioner's custard is a big issue because you just knew that you needed something that's going to go everywhere and fill crevices also but the the um sort of the jinky jeopardy element are the profiteroles yeah yeah it was i don't think anyone else could have come up with that i can't it's it's the most it's I think it's the most unique insight into someone's mind that

there's ever been on Taskmaster it's absolutely brilliant I still despite that long explanation there Lisa I've still got no idea why you did it or why you came up with it I guess the the idea is you can't really explain why it was a it's it's a feeling and the only way to describe that feeling is Alex Horne sitting on a cake bare-bottomed yeah well yeah and actually and and it worked didn't it oh it works I mean it is it will go down in Taskmaster history um so much so uh they did basically a tribute task to this in episode 100 which was in this series where uh they had to find a cake to sit on in the shortest amount of time. How does that make you feel? I was, I really, when I watched it,

it was a real doff of cap. Yeah. And I really took it like that of like, yep, thanks boys. It's sort of, I don't know. I quite like having those things.

It doesn't need to be talked about too much, but we know what it is, if you like. Actually, it was brought to my attention. I'm not on social media, so it was brought to my attention via, you know, they're doing it like somebody was cross on my behalf. It's like, no, no, no, that's something, you know, to be in that episode, the 100th episode, it's actually a doff of cap.

So I'm very happy with that. Oh, yeah. I don't think there was any sense that they were stealing your intellectual property. Honestly. It's an interesting thing, though, because we're back to that. Do you feel safe with that team, basically? Yes, I do, 100%.

Yeah, what an amazing team. Yeah, yeah. So very glad it was on there. So let's go through the prize task for this episode and we can chat about the current line-up and your thoughts on the current line-up as we do that. So this is episode eight of series 12. We're getting towards the end of the series now we kick off with the prize task did you enjoy doing the prize tasks on your series I wasn't allowed two of my original thoughts and um you know when you're left on your own it is you just think now that's absolutely perfect

there was one I had to talk through with one I had to talk through with my brother and just saying, just tell me what you think about this as a thing. And he said, don't do it. Can we find out what that is? No. Actually, I think it could potentially have been quite dangerous. being quite dangerous okay um and then when I took it to um uh the Andes and just said this is what I'm thinking of and they were like yeah probably better that you don't do that I was like yeah I think so that might have just you know you get sort of garrulous because everything you're

everything you've done so far, you're allowed. Yes. And then you suddenly think, well, I'll just push it a little bit here. No, don't do that. Because ultimately we are looking out for your safety. I mean, obviously, me and the listener now, all we want is to know what that was. Yeah.

It involved a packet of tramadol. And there was something else attached which is probably the bothersome incident the bothersome element of it so we'll right yeah i just took i'd taken it too far and i was just i must have just been out of my head no but i can i completely understand that thing of because taskmaster is such a it's like an open world video game isn't it where you can you can do whatever you want yeah but turns out it is whatever you want within some sort of reason yeah were you pleased with yours with you the things that you brought it in yeah I think so I think so some of them some of them very happy with and then some of them just it's when they're

like only okay that's the disappointing thing isn't it i don't mind terrible and obviously good is good but it's when they sort of like two or three points and they just sort of and also you don't quite get it until you're in the studio yeah it's only when it appears on the screen yeah you're like because i was quite happy with my cactus shoes yeah i felt quite good about them and i put quite a lot of pigging work into them. Dismissed with a flick of the wrist. There was that, oh, how dare you? I mean, fair enough. But at the same time, I was like, oh, well,

you could have let me put them on and seen them from the front rather than photographing them from the worst angle. Would I have gone out in them? Yeah, I would have done. But there's nothing more desperate than trying to stop Greg moving on and and going but you haven't seen see me in them from the front i just went quiet i just knew it was best best policy for me was to keep my big gob shut and hope someone done something terrible yeah um let's talk about the prize test on this episode then so the prize task is the best thing you use for something other than its purpose did

anything spring to mind for you straight away I mean obviously if you've played it you always play it don't you and it is that I was thinking I mean I can stand in any room at my house and think well there is that or there's that because I you know odd things left right and center um but no I'd have had to give give give that would have been a give it some thought one, Defo. I was surprised by them. I liked it. It's a good, I think it's quite

a good category. Desiree, I think she got the five points. I've never seen anything like that. The cat toilet, because I was expecting a litter tray, but it's like a cupboard a cat can crawl in. Yeah, for a bit was expecting a litter tray but it's like a cupboard a cat can crawl in yeah for a bit of privacy i mean it's like an outside toilet yeah i mean you you know like i don't know that you see that gardeners got the bed well there's an outside

toilet for him at the bottle or they have on on those outdoorsy programs in set in alaska yeah but bearing in mind we've had desiree's um chaise lounge and we've had there's and her gardenias yeah and there she is setting up her home and the woman has a level of style that frankly that cat's got to adhere to but yeah clearly isn't clear i mean it's too fancy i mean i don't know if you have a a cat lisa um but uh we have one here and he would not enjoy shitting in a cupboard um we've got a big well we've got it's sort of a big it's massive this litter tray but it's got like a sort of almost a draining board on the top and then a hole he can jump in and sort of really hide himself that that seemed that cupboard seemed like it was too there's too much going on with the window you could look in and and watch I think I

think they need more privacy than that well if he was looking out whilst doing whilst defecating there wouldn't be any room it just suddenly the doorway looked like a frame i wouldn't want it no and i don't know where you'd put it because it the whole size of it looked like a sort of bedside nightstand table which then adds another layer on it doesn't it that if you're in bed it's like night everyone thanks everybody thanks world night night and suddenly it's like there's a grinding of gravel the Mossad soldier in me would have been up and at the window nosing out but yeah it was a lovely effort um she did very well with that uh let's go down to the other end of the leaderboard now uh poor old Victoria who normally finds herself uh at this end of the leaderboard with prize stars and in general, to be honest,

brought her bread bin, which she doesn't use as a bread bin. She uses more as a sort of presentational bread platform. Well, she hasn't cracked the moulding bread thing because I have great sympathy with her for that. Yeah. Because we had that situation at mum and dad's house. Oh, really? Yeah. And as the family shrank, as we all went our way,

they kept with the bread bin and it wasn't used enough to, you know, so there's always like a crust of green bread at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a good look. So I totally sympathised with Victoria on that, but as soon as she said it, you know that that's not, that's just not going to go down but also there needs to be a different solution for it and I don't don't doubt that several people

will have products for her that are going to save the day but she's very cerebral isn't she so she's thought about that you know walking around the house what is what and it's that so i i totally get why she's picked it yeah so do i and i but i i would argue that using a bread bin to put bread on rather than in is not really a different purpose necessarily or at least the gulf between the two uses aren't big enough to be considered yeah you're good aren't you i i'd actually missed the point there entirely you're good yeah that it really needs to go away doesn't it i i thought she was going to have planted it planted it you know like but actually i got lost in the whole oh yeah the memory of mold so um yeah no no good point it's it line is, has it got the back end of the task?

Yes. No, it hasn't. And I don't think so. Whereas I thought Morgana's really did, but she's still only got two points using ice cream for puffy eyes. Yeah. I mean, it's a classic. That's, I think, been going on as a make-up tip since movies in,

you know, the Preparation H, just to tighten the skin, which is fair enough, if everyone was out pissed the night before in cocktail time Hollywood. So if it's been going on that long, why don't they relabel ice cream as eye cream? And then people might feel less gross about putting it on their eyes. I don't think it's ever been proven as such that, you know, it's like people saying put toothpaste on spots. Yeah yeah it's one of those like myths and legends thing and unless a professional

was going to I'm going to put this on you now yeah yeah I just I think probably quite a successful brand anyway don't need to well yeah but I just rather I think I'd be more comfortable putting eye cream on my ass than I would putting ass cream on my eyes yeah I'm with you on that yeah just flip and flip them around I reckon yeah that's a good thought or is it uh Alan now this was genuinely useful to me uh uses a child's uh toothbrush with a sucker base to change those light bulbs that are flush with the ceiling. I had that issue happen only last week.

We've got a flickering bulb downstairs, Lisa. It's coming out, isn't it? Yeah. So I think Mr. Davis has played that forward because he's worked the audience long time yeah so every time that that gets shown somebody's gonna go oh what oh it's gonna be all of that people are gonna be pestered who've got toddlers I love that yeah yeah and um and also I don't doubt that's a real honest you know he's seen that and he's shared yeah I think I think doubt that's a real honest, you know, he's seen that and he's shared. Yeah. I think,

I think that that's a very useful task. I was quite pleased with that. Yeah, me too. And it deserved, it definitely deserved the four points. I thought that was great. What did Kaz do? He did the clothes hanger with iPhone holder, which he claimed that he used regularly while he was hoovering. He used it for a baby

monitor uh and then an iphone to watch the football while he's hoovering greg now knows him so well that he could tell he was absolutely talking out of his ass or his eyes um and uh he was absolutely caught in that lie and i any opportunity to see guz act like a naughty seven-year-old boy i think it's a pleasure to watch isn't it he is such a fabulous man him yeah such a fabulous man he squirms at any hint of commitment he totally does and that little smile the idea that it's just like right okay so this so um you you oh you know i do this and you just it's no you don't no and it's so obvious now we've all seen it yeah yeah you can tell straight away he's got no poker face whatsoever but he goes into his tasks in in that sort of route of like right how can i how could i do as little as yeah and then

and then he'll do something i mean mean, the painting, the ball green. Yes. I mean, that was just fabulous, wasn't it? When it came down, you could just see Alex is like, yeah, this is exactly what we wanted to happen. This is the dream. And it couldn't have happened to a better guy because he's just so mellow.

And then it's just like, right, how am I going to deal with this and actually that that's the sort of g up you want somebody like Gus to have yeah and even if it happens once in the whole series it's kind of enough because it's like okay I'll deal with it I'm still under time but yeah you would have been quite chill in that situation as well Lisa if you'd been in the the green ball uh bouncing everywhere situation I'd imagine you would have been quite relaxed I would have gone mad would you oh I would have tried I would smash the place up yeah see I just think that's shtick with you I don't buy it at all well it's it's the shtick that infiltrates every single aspect of my life

yeah um yeah because I think that when something like that happens it then opens more possibilities or not so so it's like you're in a paddock of the requirements of the task what can you do within that paddock but if some bugger opens the gate and something else happens it it's, oh, no. But it would be, you know, you can't deny that doing them, no matter how, say, when the wordy ones come up and they are like, oh, God, what does this actually mean? It's still fun. Yes. I mean, they're all fun, aren't they?

Even if you get a chance. I sometimes just got angry and just let loose just to be able to do that. Was that about the mood of the day yeah sometimes or just an absolute sheer desperation to win i think as well oh really yeah i think so or to do well at the task anyway oh yeah yeah yeah i didn't want to embarrass myself and through my desperation to not embarrass myself i regularly embarrass myself yeah then that you know i just have a feeling that this is the program that gives you what you need.

Yeah, exactly. Whereas you managed to win, Lisa, and maintain dignity throughout, which is fairly incredible. Thanks very much. Even by shoving somebody's arse in the cake. Yeah, but it wasn't your arse, was it? That's the key. You very calmly made someone else sit on the cake.

I did think he wouldn't do it, actually. Well, he trusts me, I guess. Yeah. I mean, he and I are linked in a very unique way. Do you promise me, look me in the eye... LAUGHTER Look me, Gus. Yeah.

Look at me. I want you to promise me that the story you've just told me is true Look, mate, Gus. Yeah? Look at me. Yeah, go on, yeah, yeah. I want you to promise me that the story you've just told me is true and that you've subsequently gone on to use it while you're doing the hoovering and it's become part of your life. You mean, like, everyday life or, like...? I just want you to say you've regularly used it. Tell the truth.

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or we can demand more from ourselves at York University we work together We can demand more from the earth. Or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Task one. I need to read all of this out, Lisa, so make yourself a cup of tea. Make and wear a popcorn necklace with at least five pieces of popcorn and then do the opposite of the following.

You must under no circumstances not avoid not making the bell not ring. The task is over when you have either rung the bell or not rung the bell and said, I did the right thing three times. Fastest to not do the wrong thing wins. If you don't do the right thing, you lose five points. Your time started when you started reading the task just imagine alex just so proud of himself when he was writing all that out yeah and getting outside help that we frankly are never going to

argue against how did you feel about this one when when this one came up natural instinct was ring the bell and it was because the first time i heard it it was the line before the task instruction started right actually in the reveal at the end i'd have rung the bell straight straight away you yeah and i'd have and despite all the trickery of wordage i'd have rungung the bell. I might have doubted myself within, and I would have been with Victoria on that, trying to thread the pig in needle. So you would have rung the bell, but you wouldn't have spent ages picking apart the sentence. You would have just done that on instinct.

Well, I often think instinct's the best thing to go on, isn't it? I think so, especially on this show. There's no doubt about it that they would have gone home. I often think instinct's the best thing to go on, isn't it? I think so, especially on this show. There's no doubt about it that they would have gone home absolutely sat in the car hating themselves because of the doubt and the poker faces you'd have got from the team. It's like, but somebody tell me if I got it right. No. No, no one tells you anything.

That's our pleasure later. Yeah, a frustrating, wordy, I mean, perfect task, really. Yeah, really, it was a good one. It's nice to watch people flail, isn't it? Especially Guz, who was panicking anyway because it was in a deconsecrated nunnery. I know, what was that? I mean, he slung that in quite...

I believed him. I believed him that he's walked in and has got that, oh, hang on a minute, I'm in a holy place. Or am I in a holy place? And I mean, I bought it. Yeah. I mean, I think if you're already worried that the ritual of doing the bell and all of that, I think he even said this is going to summon something.

What's he watching at home with four kids in the house? it probably makes even more sense what's he watching at home with four kids in the house yeah where his mind wanders on that is anyone's guess but i did enjoy it oh just watching him talk is always a pleasure um and alan yet again proving himself to be the most probably the most relaxed man on taskmaster ever yeah just getting the popcorn necklace going horribly wrong, a disaster, this little fiddly thing, and he just laughs everything off.

Yeah. Again, an advantage in having children, as we know from the, it's been hinted at with the toothbrush. Yes. I can only imagine his delight at looking on YouTube for that hack and then, right, KT,

and grabbing it and then, and just being the diy wizard yeah and and then so so actually his approach is is like he's got i can see him thinking if the children were here and we were doing this and they were thwarted with various disappointments he's always got to think of another another way of doing it and um as and it is relaxing isn't it because he's a relaxed guy yeah very relaxed that's i mean yeah task must supposed to reveal sort of new parts of your personality i think with alan it's just magnified that he's pretty chilled out yeah well as a pal i i can say that he genuinely is.

Yeah. Oh, that's nice. And he did very well. He rang the bell. He did it in 11 minutes. Guz also rang the bell, did it in five minutes, 37. I mean, I think he was so terrified of summoning some sort of demon that he had to get out of there.

Get out, yeah. Morgana rang the bell as well, but a long time to do that necklace. I think I would have struggled with that. You were saying you think you would have struggled with bell as well but a long time to do that necklace I think I would have struggled with that you were saying you think you would have struggled with that I definitely struggled with threading a needle so much so that last year my niece gave me packets of needles

threaded because I love sewing so she gave me different colours of cotton because it can actually 20 minutes in, try and, oh. Yeah. Although I have now got a magnifying light,

you'll be very glad to know, but because Victoria didn't have her glasses with her. Yeah, that's happened a lot this series. Yeah. Which I can't understand because, but I mean, I can understand, but I can't understand because practically you'd always have to have glasses with you,

wouldn't you? Yeah, I mean, if anything, just to read the task. Well, I mean, you could be on a bus and be approached by somebody inquiring, would you be a spy? Here's the small print. Yeah. Let me just read that. Yeah, I found that quite interesting.

Yeah. I'm interested quite interesting. Yeah. I'm interested in these pre-threaded needles, Lisa. I didn't know that's something that they did. No, that was just a kind Christmas present. Well, that's something that they made for you. They pre-threaded the needles for you and gave them to you. And then made little cards for them all. It was terrific.

I'm still using them. That's really nice. Yeah, Morgana struggled guz very cleverly his necklace idea to put all of the popcorn on the needle and then just hang it off your neck i thought it was a great idea and stylish a bar of popcorn i mean we might see that turning up in places unexpected but But actually, it worked really quick. He made very light work of it. Got five on, bosh. Now, do they meter the issue?

Yes, exactly. Very surprised that Victoria got the bell ringing wrong. This should be right up her street, shouldn't it? Yeah, but if you think about, yeah, I mean, she's a cracking riddler. Yes, she is. And you think about how the narrative's gone round and round in her head as she's trying to thread the needle. So she's got the needle bit. So if you think about it, she's gone straight to the instructions

and gone, right, I've done that. Yeah. And then she's gone down to the riddle and got the riddle right. But like you say, she's ignored the top paragraph that would have been on the task of do the opposite. So I can see exactly, because she overthinks, which I don't think is a secret. I don't think so.

I think most of us do. But yeah, you could see how she's she's work working down the actual task yeah so she's ignored the original sneaky bit I mean that's the same thing as walking into one of the rooms and being asked to do something and then thinking something's hidden in this room yeah I did that in every task yeah me too I've. Of just like, right, hang on, you're all... And also other people's faces, because you're facing the crew of like, right, what? Yeah.

Sometimes there's just a carefree attitude and sometimes it's a, what? What's going on here? Yeah, something's going on. Well, she did not ring the bell. And also I noticed, which I don't think was brought up she didn't even wear her necklace which was part of the task

so even if she had rung the bell and got it right she would have been disqualified anyway yeah I did actually as she was holding it up did it say yeah it did say wear

yeah make and wear yeah yeah there's going to be murder over it and Desiree didn't ring the bell either she also got that wrong

but if she had rung the bell she would have got the five points because she did it quicker than Guz but it was minus five points for Desiree

minus five points for Victoria which is not what she needed at this stage of the game three points for Morgana four points for Alan and the big five for Guz and his popcorn bar.

I put this to Susie Dent. This is the only thing you can do in this circumstance. And she said, there's five negatives. So not making the bell not ring is a double negative and comes to the same thing as making the bell ring. Not avoid is a double negative that renders itself redundant. We know this. So you end up with, you must, under no circumstances,

make the bell ring. Oh, shit sticks. So they under no circumstances make the bell ring. Oh, shit sticks. So they shouldn't have made the bell ring. Well, I said to Susie Dent, thank you, and I emailed her and said, just wondering, Susie, did you include the first line, which was, do the opposite of the following? Oi. And Susie said, oh, I missed that bit,

which, of course, reverses the instruction of the paragraph that I analysed. If you got that right at home, get out more. Good. Task two. Provide the most iconic and memorable commentary for this brilliant one minute of socially distant sport.

One of you must commentate on the action, the other must provide analysis. The best commentary on the most brilliantly socially distant sport wins. You have 15 minutes. Your time starts now. But 20 minutes earlier the task that was set was play the most brilliant minute of socially distant sport you have 10 minutes your time starts now a lovely double task kind of uh i mean one of those the clever thing is uh you know see we we see the commentary side and that's great and then the beautiful belch into meanwhile 20 minutes earlier i love that

that's like oh of course because because you are left a bit hanging on the commentary of like well what are they good oh god what's he going to be a clip of alex shooting you know then suddenly it's oh great yeah and actually i thought that um alan and victoria did really well on that they did a really really good job their commentary was great especially as i mean she's now been nicknamed the sports robot victoria genuinely has no idea really why anyone would watch sports the the phrase here is can you distill what is interesting about looking at it. There isn't the first understanding of sports there. And already this series, she's bought Alan as a prize task

season two to Manchester United, which was hugely controversial on this podcast because we talked about it as if, you know, she didn't know what she was doing and she'd not done that deliberately. And I got a lot of tweets saying, Victoria knew that was a joke. She was just trolling Alan.

And it's still yet to be revealed, but'm not sure yeah I you know I I think you I I know her and David aren't particularly a big footy fans yes but it's um yeah I'm sorry but she you know she was very close to her dad. She's got brothers. She understands. She understands. Yeah, absolutely. But she knows that she's just making fun of Alan. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. This, I agree. They did really well on this. I really liked that she asked Alan to break down what sport is and why it's exciting. And she really got that element of surprise thing just really stuck in her head, didn't she? But that's because if she wasn't thinking that she's sporty, she's thinking,

now that's going to be my strength. Yes, exactly. Yeah. And it created this whole new sport of you get to add an element of surprise every single time you take a shot at the goal. The elements of surprise were interesting. Yeah. But also, Mr. davis very compliant oh yeah

okay yeah he stuck to the rules turning around uh he didn't well actually he didn't go with the element of surprise where he was invited to look down her top oh no yes i i must admit i slightly missed it and i also think that that was the you, coming to the end and clutching at straws, to be fair. And also suddenly we were taken back to 1974. No. Please don't do that. But if that was clutching at straws, the first element of surprise was just Victoria going, rah.

Yeah, I like that, though. That Victoria going. Yeah. I like that though. That's where we started. I like that. I think both of these games that they invented are games that you would invent maybe at school or if you're on tour and you had like a long time to fill. I think they were both fun. I'd play both of these games.

Yeah. I totally enjoyed it. And I was very impressed with Victoria's. I knew Alan would be a good pundit, but I was very impressed with Victoria's. I knew Alan would be a good pundit, but I was really impressed with the team. So I thought Victoria did great on that one. Yeah, exactly.

She, I mean, she's very analytical. So I think it played to her strengths and Alan's commentary was incredible as well. Let's talk about Gusball. We can't not talk about Gusball, a sport that was created off the back of guz's terrible suggestion of basically

watching the two women punch each other with golf clubs with uh and also two wrong women to suggest that to thank you very much because instantly there was the inverted just like yeah now this is going to go a completely different way friend yeah they didn't even have to say anything to each other morgana and desiree it was well if he's going to suggest that he's going to end up in the middle and we're going to throw things that was beautiful female osmosis went on there just like you know he's going to cop for this and rightly so yeah rightly so and he you know he took his licks he was straight in the middle there um and i liked that it's a game that promoted safety as well that if you hit him in the head you got minus 10 points yeah

no aiming for the head would that have stopped you no no i would have been i would have been going to lose at that point aiming straight for the head it's the sort of game that you would invent in school and then a teacher would it would spread around the school so much that they would have to say in assembly you can't you can't play this anymore we've had four broken noses yeah and then gone straight in give me joy in my heart come on kids it's too much guzmul is banned um the and the commentary as well another i mean they went with characters, Rod Rodney and Rodders. Yeah. Don't you find just looking and watching Morgana, she's just entrancing. Yeah, she's wonderful.

Yeah. She's just so fab. And yeah, I mean, I've long been a fan of her and her various myriad of impressions. So that was a really cracking thing to pull out. You know, Greg commenting on thing to pull out you know that greg commenting on uh the fact that you know the voice you can trust because in adverts the voice they use for monetary things is scottish yeah this is the voice you can trust straight away picking up on that of thank you

madam a very good choice because it was and then the slightly uh out there out there guy who's twisting things around american styling beautifully done yeah it was really good and they only you know they had 15 minutes to do that so to come up with three distinct characters and the back and forth there was absolutely brilliant and they deserved i think everyone did deserve those five points i'm not usually a fan of everyone getting the same yeah because it renders it sort of pointless competition wise but yeah but they were both very good yeah would you would you have fancied your chances in that one i reckon if see if it was a team task and i was with the team that i was in for series nine which was rose matafayo and katie wicks I absolutely would have fancied our chances there.

Yeah. I think I would have helped a lot with inventing the sport. Yeah. I suspect I would have ended up in the middle having things thrown at me as well. I suspect I would have done. Yeah. With my two teammates.

I don't know. I think you would have had them both in the middle and absolutely just whacking stuff at them. Yeah. Or knowing you with that team you would have ended up doing the entire thing quietly getting on with it getting on with it absolutely getting the points yourself and they only notice when they watch it back in the studio we had a lot of emails about that moment because that is

that's such an incredible moment in that series where you just quietly get on with it they're not listening to you they're just faffing around and you just do it and then you're gone again instinct instinct was just that hang on a minute what's that and it was the hops in the uh underneath the table it was like that because it they're pungent yeah they're hops and it's like well hang on that's it oh, hang on, just get on with it. Because also they were getting ratty. We had a couple of emails about it saying it's the perfect representation of what it's like to be a woman in the workplace. Well, Greg did state that in the studio.

And as a matter of fact, I think it's become a beautiful moment because of that understanding. It was like the worst kind of gaslighting ever i'm just proper proper blank yeah whatever you say is it irrelevant is it though is it i'm just hopping i've got it five points thank you oh and they're off birch already in with the first point great poison balance there oh robinson right there con there in the center protecting the gold yeah what i think the thing is i just want to draw us back to the amount of damage to count in the middle there Children are something he can never enjoy. They don't look after your own bitch

Yeah, but I mean you can tell by their stance that she feels like it was worth it if we keep an eye on Robinson He she's got a reputation Outstanding player, but a dirty bastard. She is quite a wild one, which is not on the pitch, that's for sure. Task three. Make your face look like another face when your face is turned upside down. Most expressive

and radically different upside down face wins. You have 15 minutes. Your time starts now. I think this is more difficult. This ended up being more difficult than I thought it would be. And that's my polite way of saying that I think this is more difficult this ended up being more difficult than I thought it would be and that's my polite way of saying that I think broadly all of them were rubbish yeah broadly I think you've got to have seen that you know where you've done somebody's filmed themselves upside down so really you've got to take what is what are the things that are confusing if your face is up down

upside down which is actually your mouth and your nose yes so if you keep with your eyes and that's your playing field basically your forehead you're laughing but that that bit of sense is going to leave you when you're under time pressure yeah absolutely which as we see yeah which it did yes i i can't even like some of them i don't even recognize his face is it like morgana's i even when i squinted i couldn't work out where everything was supposed to be i mean she's still got four points. Yeah. But it did look great though, didn't it? I mean, the beard looked just so, it just looked so pro.

Yes. I mean, there was some incredible creativity in this. Guz's tiny little face. So he thought about it. He sort of crowded everything around it so he could just have that very small face area. Yeah. And Victoria said, quite rightly,

they look like a llama from a children's program. and actually it really once you started to see that I could see everybody in that little face but that I thought cracking effort yeah that was a really that was a really really strong effort um Alan scored very highly but I think Greg scored this highly because he was proud of the backstory that he invented of Alan having a fight in a pub car park and losing his eye that's why alan got points there really yeah because also when we saw it he only had one eye yeah but actually when you saw it with the two oh different story entirely but yeah the backstory made alan's i think yeah victoria's was really subtle and And then as Alex points out, no, keep looking at that. And then suddenly you think,

yeah, there's a lot going on with this fella. Yeah, it sort of all comes together the longer you look at it, which is good, which is very good. Desiree, I think you could look at that all day and nothing would really come to you. No, I think the trick was there. She needed to have hidden her eyes and she'd have been laughing.

Yeah, yeah. It's a very tricky task, especially under that time pressure. So it was two points for Desiree, four points for Morgana and Guz, and five points each for Alan and Victoria. We took a few different shots of Alan. That was when one of the eyes fell off, so he turned into an eyepatch. I mean, it looks to me like a drunk man crashing from a car park fight at this stage.

HE LAUGHS It's all kicked off out the back of the White Swan. LAUGHTER Alan, calm down, calm down. LAUGHTER Car park Alan. At the very end of the montage, there was one with both eyes on and a tongue poking out. Yeah.

Now, this guy... Before he's gone out. It's an awful story. Look how happy he is. Can't wait to go out for a lovely pint. I hope I don't get the shit kicked out of me in the car park and lose an eye. I wonder if anyone will notice how close together my eyes are and take against me.

Now, we come on to the live task, which I think... I mean, it's been an incredible series for live tasks, but this one might be up there with one of the best ever, I think. I think it was, and it starts so innocuously again, après lockdown, everyone's got a toaster. Yeah. And I thought, oh, we're just going to have rounds of this. Yes. Which, which I would have been happy with.

Just literally turn the toaster up, up or down, you know onto the the amount that you want it toasted i'll read it out uh the live task is pop up before the object but only just you're only allowed to pop up once closest to the pot before the pot wins the round if you pop up after the object you get no points that round so we kicked off with the toaster, like you say. Just so nerve-wracking. And the fact you can't see when anyone else is popping up. So it's all on your own. Well, here's a question for you.

As I was watching that, I was wondering, would that task have been better with an audience in the theatre? Because I think you could really call that out. Would you? In my series, Russell used the audience quite a lot, which is a good trick, you know, and also there's no rules against that. So would you, would it,

and I kept on thinking no, because when you get to the balloon bit, nobody can guess. Nobody knows, yeah. You can sort of assume that they've gone for a larger than average balloon. Yes. You can assume that. Or a tiny one. Imagine if they'd gone for a larger than average balloon yes you can assume that

or a tiny one imagine if they'd gone with a tiny one yeah just immediately pops um i think the only thing the audience would have added it would have got in your head more wouldn't it because you'd hear a cheer when people get up so it would have messed with you a bit more although there were the noise defenders which was a good and a bad thing i think for desiree well desiree put hers on straight away for i know which is really sweet um last week she was the only person to wear safety equipment for the shelf task as well um but she put the ear defenders on she never got up for the balloon and then was the most shocked and horrified person when it burst. Just fabulous, though.

Don't you just love it when something's really honest there? You can't disguise it. You can't talk your way out of it. It's just an honest reaction. Yeah, it was great. That was beautifully done, actually, everyone's reaction to it. Greg might have been the most horrified one. He was so scared of that balloon.

Lovely to see him in that state. Love to see Greg scared. Well, actually, I think, you know, like he's becoming more flick of the wristy. Yeah. It's like he's adapted. I love the new ins and outs of the breaks. Yes.

I don't know whether he's taken charge of them himself, of just like, right, here's a few things so so it said that generally uh you you're seeing a slightly uh sandpapery version of him yeah i think i quite like oh i think he always has taken charge of the introductions for alex every week but they are getting more and more ridiculous i think this week's was my favourite ever, which was the, someone's, Alex looks like someone's thrown chunks of pork at a car wash brush, a prison car wash brush. It made me laugh for ages.

Yes. Yeah. The marvellous. That's their moment, isn't it? It's just, it's so lovely. I know it's awful,

but it isn't. It's so lovely. Desiree did not do well on this task. She got two points. Alan and Victoria got three. It was four points for Gaz and five points for Morgana. She did marvellously well on that one. Now the episode points

it was a draw. It was a tie at the top. Gaz and Alan 21 points. So we got to see one of the tie-break tasks which was blow a feather across the table with your nose. Alan did it in 9.5 seconds. Oh, I didn't know. I couldn't watch

because of snot. And inevitably there's going to be snot. It's the one thing that just knocks me. Knocks me proper gippy. Well, I apologise then, Lisa, because the listener won't know this, but I've got a cold today, so I've had to blow my nose quite

a lot, so I apologise for that. No, but you're, yeah, it's no, no, no, it's different. That's different. I can understand that, but, you know, I could watch a baby for a little bit with a Roman candle, and then I am actually going to have to step in.

No, no, let it run. No. Yeah. No, I won't. Because babies can't blow their nose, can they? I feel so sorry for babies. But how do you feel about when parents suck out snot from a baby's nose, Lisa? My instant reaction would be to even push my knuckle up on that

and just knock them out. I just, please don't do that. Do not. And honestly, I can wade in on all sorts. Dog owner. You're dealing with scat on a daily basis. I'm interested in that. But, you know.

So you couldn't even watch this because you were too worried about it not happening? No, I saw one fleck fly. I was like, that's me done. So I know that Alan won, didn't he? Alan won with 9.5 seconds and Guz did it in 28.7 seconds. So Alan won by quite some considerable distance.

Yeah. So that was Alan's victory and Guz came second. Morgana on 20 points. So it was 21 points for the top two, 20 points for Morgana. And then Desiree on 9 points and Victoria on 8 points.

That was quite a gulf between the points this week. And Victoria really needed those points. So now she's quite far behind in the series. She's on 100 points Desiree is next up with 119 Alan on 131 the same as Guz and Morgana on 132 very very close with the top three there do you have any predictions for who might win the series Lisa I I think it's a good thing uh to go into the um end games that close actually um but I know on my own series there were um we were in that position only I wasn't I wasn't aware of it as such right so um so you know

you you're getting the reminders but that's where I was getting my reminders when we did them in the studio. So I wasn't going out and calculating them. Yeah. But very happy just to be in the middle. That was my modus. Just happy that I'm in the middle of this. And then just the last minute sprint to the victory. And then it suddenly started to creep up.

It was like, oh, okay. Because you're doing it episode by episode. And then somebody, oh, has done the whole calculation. Yes. You think, oh, fine. And actually, I do, I know this sounds awful, but it is more of a boy thing. What, the scoring element?

Yeah. Yeah. let's have some emails Lisa we've got some questions for you on emails this is from Emily Stilwell

in Southampton thanks for your full name Emily hi Emily dear Ed and Lisa absolutely love the show and the podcast my question isn't about cake.

It's about the little man on the penny farthing. Why didn't you like him, Lisa? Is tinny enough of a reason to murder the poor little man? Yeah. You stomping on him did make me snort laugh, though, so thank you for that. Your whole attitude to the show was a joy. So many highlights from you running away and hiding

to you out hopping the boys. So the penny farthing man, Lisa, why didn't you like him? hiding to you out hopping the boys so that the penny farthing man lisa why don't you like him well there are several points about that object um the fact that he's penny farthing meant that he was wobbly which we obviously found out so straight away there's a stability issue with what is required didn't like his face genuinely didn't like it and it's just like you know and I wonder whether in the back of my mind I've got one of those um lovely little metal ones that Bob Mortimer favours in my mind yeah maybe you know maybe that that was something yeah no you've got that have you but I felt very I just didn't like it was that one of those days where you weren't you weren't

in the mood or oh no I was in the mood but it was a very long day and there was and we did uh we went to I you know I knew I'd had an okay idea but I knew that it wasn't over exciting but um um yeah then we decamp and it all got a bit fussy and I'm just like oh come on you know when you start to know exactly oh come on I know how to make this that's just stick two gopros there let it go I mean like where somebody just has to give you a point and just say, shh, sorry. So I'm in a smart-ass mode, I suppose. And yeah, I overheard somebody in the background saying,

if this task goes quickly, I'll bring Lisa's cab forward an hour. Well, there we go. That is the absolute honest truth of that. I'm just like, ah, yes, I could do with a, you know, I need to avoid the across London traffic. Bosh. Well, that's taken care of that, though.

So you didn't really take against the man at all. The man was simply a sacrifice for you to get home quicker. It's an amalgamation of the two i didn't care for him so you didn't yeah yeah i mean if they'd given me a puppy i'd still be there good i feel very relieved that if you were given a puppy and they said if this tasks over quickly leaves against a cab early you wouldn't have stepped on the puppy's back to make it that sounds awful that you put it like that no i'm glad i'm glad that's not what you would have done no no but you know what i mean it's just something like i don't care about this prop and it's fun being able to destroy stuff and

know that they well also it is you do have to think about um you do have to think about, I don't know, not shocking Alex as such, but that thing of not necessarily doing what he expects. Yeah, I think so. I take a lot of pleasure in that. I think that's right. I think that's exactly what you should aim to do. You want that moment where he has to cover his face up with the clipboard, right? You want to break him. He has to process it yeah oh oh god or make him sit on a cake with no trousers or pants on that's the that's the only way to do it now really um uh hi lisa and ed this is from suzanne uh i really want to know if you get to know alex feel he's

on your side and view him as a friend during the tasks and then feel totally betrayed as he points out all your faults in the studio. Well, we've kind of covered this. And the answer is yes to both things. I mean, you're an old pal of Alex's. I'm a pal of Alex's. And he's obviously such a lovely man. And on those days when you're doing the task he's very

much in character while you're doing the task but then he'll pop back to your dressing room and say oh well done that was great that's really good that's going to look so good and you try and engage him on how other people did and obviously he doesn't give you anything there but then you do get to the studio and he's in character in the studio and he does go well that wasn't very good though it's like well you came to my dressing room and said it was good so when you said good is it good from your point of view or my point of view i mean that is it is a puzzle that you've got to get get round yeah um but yeah there is there is i i genuinely viscerally felt uh hang on a minute um but but also you know there's a guy producing as such and keeping keeping an eye on the talent as you're doing it the turns keeping them happy so there is

a level of placate isn't there oh he's wearing many hats he needs to check that everyone's relaxed and they feel comfortable in what you're doing because the last thing you want to do is is you know have uh second guessing yourself you don't want to second guess yourself in the task do you want to go well no you you can a bit um but actually i think that they they must have learned that over the years that it's it's not very helpful so they the steering is um it's safety more than sort of like a dull instruction. It's just to make you feel safe and consequently get the best out of you. Then everyone wins. And I, you know, I mean, this is his love child, this whole scenario. So yeah, I think he is a cracking leader.

He is, he is basically just gently guiding you until it comes to tramadol, at which point they'll just take it out of your hand. Yeah, no, we're not having that. OK, thanks so much. One more question. Dear Ed and Lisa, I was wondering if either of you had a task where you thought you did terribly and regretted your performance, but when it came to the studio, you actually did really well.

Love the show and the podcast. Connor from Plymouth. Thanks, Connor. I don't know actually i don't know that i can remember enough um to think i mean the ones that from my point of view that the little quickies that you know i mean i actually darts i thought i knew tim vine because i'd met him doing um a darts thing for um comic relief well not that I just met him I saw how into it he is he loves it yeah proper proper into it so I just thought oh well this is this is going to be uh Tim's thing it's going to be perfect for him and just may as well just crack on yeah I have no idea I'd do well in darts because I'm, you know, just some munt down the pub playing darts.

It's like, yeah, I can do that. But yes, yeah, I don't know, actually. I think it's a shock when you see how they've been put together anyway. Yeah, I think it's always a shock when you see how they've been put together anyway. Yeah. I think it's, yeah, I think it's always a shock when you see it in, in the context of other, what other people have done. So yeah,

you can think you've done terribly, but everyone else might've done way worse. I had a couple of those. I think I had two where I thought I'd done really badly because I'd really stuck to the rules and done badly in the task, but then everyone else had done something wrong with the rules so it was the last task of the series where you had to do seven tasks

in a certain order and whatever you did in one task influenced how the next task went and I did terribly and had to start them all again but everyone else had failed so I was the only one to get the points Oh now how did that feel?

As that's being revealed, how did you feel about that? Well, the issue was I'd already had a tantrum because I thought everyone else was going to get points. So I felt dreadful, Lisa, because I had a real tantrum and then it went my way, which is the worst thing that can happen, I think. You throw all your toys out the pram and then it turns out you've got what you want anyway.

I felt like a horrible little baby. It's perfect to watch. Perfect, yeah, perfect to watch. Perfect to watch. See, it gives you what you need. Yeah. thank you so much for coming on the taskmaster podcast lisa we always get our guests to rate their experience on the podcast between one and five points in the style of the taskmaster so feel free to be honest well should i well five yes i i you know i've only done two podcasts in my life

have you yeah and this is one of them what was it what was the other one uh do you know what this is the trouble you see people ask me to do things and i forget that they've asked me so you do have to keep replying and i don't mean that as a silly old lady it's just being interested in other things and suddenly at the moment you know Joseph of Arimathea has got my full attention and I'm digging into the tribes of uh ancient Britain well you must come on and do my podcast about the tribes of ancient Britain at some point I'd love to I'm slightly yeah slightly obsessed about it thank you so much Lisa for coming on the Taskmaster podcast. You must come back when we discuss Series 6. I will hold you to that.

I'd love it. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. Bye. There we are, the wonderful Lisa Talbot. We will get her back on the show for Series 6. Very much looking forward to talking to her again. But what another great episode of Series 12. It's shaping up to be an absolute classic.

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