Taskmaster The Podcast - Ep 58. Guy Montgomery - S5 Ep.2

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

On this week's episode Ed is joined by comedian, podcaster and NZ TM contestant Guy Montgomery. The pair chat all things series 5 as well as getting to discuss some NZ highlights!Watch all of Taskmaster on All 4https://www.channel4.com/programmes/taskmaster Get in touch with Ed and future guests:[e-mail]  Visit the Taskmaster Youtube channelwww.youtube.com/taskmaster  Taskmaster the Podcast is Produced by Daisy Knight for Avalon Television.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations, how a cannabis company markets its products in such a highly regulated

category, and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. Hello and welcome to the Taskmaster podcast. We are of course chatting about Series 5 of Taskmaster at the moment. We're on Episode 2. Thanks again to Nish Kumo last week for kicking off the series in style. But enough about him. Today we have another wonderful special guest.

Do go and watch Taskmaster Series 5. You can just watch the episode we're talking about. Come back here listen to us chat about it on the pod and then go and watch another episode and come back next week to listen to us. Watch along with us it's a lot of fun, I promise. You can get that on all four of course where you can

find all of the Taskmaster episodes and today to help us talk about Series 5, Episode 2, is Guy Montgomery. Guy Montgomery, a fantastic stand-up comedian from New Zealand, a wonderful podcaster in his own right. I'd urge you to go and check out The Worst Idea of All Time. It's a fantastic idea for a podcast and extremely well-executed. Guy's podcast with Tim Bat is very very funny indeed and of course Guy was on Taskmaster New Zealand series 2 and very funny he was on that so we are looking forward to chatting to Guy about Taskmaster UK series 5 episode 2 so let's get on

with it welcome Guy to the Taskmaster podcast thanks Edward, it's so good to be here. It's so lovely to have you here, of course you were a contestant on Taskmaster NZ series 2. Of course I was, it made a lot of sense, I think when they were casting the show they saw the opportunity and they ran with it. Now obviously obviously, look, that's a hugely popular series. People are really into Taskmaster New Zealand. It's picked up quite a cult following over here. Were you excited to be asked, were you a fan of the first series of TMNZ? And indeed, were you a fan of the global format of Taskmaster as a whole?

Huge, huge Taskmaster fan, as I feel like almost any Commonwealth comedian is. As far as the territories of the Queen Reach, where they broadcast the show, everyone is immediately on board. And you tried taking it to the Republic, and it didn't go as well somehow. I suppose it's got quite a royal feel to it, right? It's quite a regal show. So really the only people that are going to fully appreciate it are the people who like living under the rule of Her Majesty.

That's right. Who you successfully colonized. Congratulations to you guys, by the way. Thank you. We didn't really put up a good fight. That was a big part of it. We just wanted to be under your reign so bad. Yeah, one point to your country.

Yeah, so big fan. And when I heard there was a New Zealand version happening last year when it was announced, I was like, holy shit, how do i get on the show and obviously it wasn't to be uh and i watched it anyway in spite of my righteous fury and i thoroughly enjoyed it i was so especially because like it's in you know i mean the comedy industry globally is pretty small but in new zealand it's even smaller and so there's not just the nerves of watching an adaptation of something you love locally being made and wanting it to be good but it's also like the added anxiety of

wanting it to be good because it's being made by your friends and starring your friends and in new zealand we love to um like in new zealand we've got a big put down uh where we call new zealand comedians we put the word comedian in inverted commas um you know and to the critics credit it's a pretty pretty hot put down so you know there's this huge like national sigh of relief as it wasn't just like it wasn't just passable but it was really good and i felt like the first season really built a great sense of um momentum and trajectory across it as everyone found their feet and got more confident and so yeah when i was asked to be on the second season i was so goddamn excited like it's just it's honestly it's the best formatted panel show in comedy there's there's nothing better and it's

also the only timeless, or not only, but it's one of the most ageless panel shows because all of the episodes can exist in a vacuum. You can watch the first season of Taskmaster now and it's as funny now as it was when they made it. Yes. I mean, this is what we're finding. We can go back and talk about all of these old episodes

and they are just as fresh now. Oh, yeah. A few years later. I mean, we're going to get to a lot of a lot of my we're going to get to series nine and a lot of my stuff was quite topical for the time i was doing sort of skits about politicians who are only in the news that week i remember it was crushing in the studio but i thought it's not playing the long game here at all although i do see that it's earned i mean i know this it's earned you the bust and i've got to ask is that

always framed in when you're recording the podcast or is that just for me not only when i'm recording this podcast when i'm recording every podcast it's always framed in it's always sat there staring so your your time on Taskmaster New Zealand, let's, I mean, what I'm conscious of, we've talked to David Correos and we've talked to Paul Williams and I'm just conscious of not giving any, too many major spoilers or, you know,

give away too many exciting things about the task just because I know there's still people in the UK who are finding the series and watching it. But I'd love to hear about some of your your highlights if you can hint in such a way that it doesn't spoil anything exciting uh I mean the the interesting thing is that some often what I remember is highlights or what's top of mind if I'm asked that question aren't necessarily the tasks in which i um performed best yeah like and and i did want to do well and i i can you know i could empathize with you and especially with rose um from your season where it's like there's such a dance to do inside of the show if you have like an unflappably competitive spirit because you're trapped between two minds and two worlds the whole time you're on set which is like this is an entertainment

show where people want to laugh but also this is a competition show which i want to win yeah and um so there are certain tasks obviously where you think you've performed particularly well which i enjoy but like there was a task, a very, very simple task in our show, which was just, I'll say the title of the task, but it was just squirt the sunscreen. Further squirt wins. And it's a real, again, I'd say it's a perfect encapsulation or advertisement for the value of the format. encapsulation or advertisement for the value of the format because it's like you've got five different people who interpret like what is the most linear straight down the line task you can conceive of in just the the most far-reaching ways with the most you know like catastrophic outcomes really yeah um so stuff like that i thought yeah i mean that task is a perfect example of that like

so whatever anybody did you could see that in their mind that was the only way to do it there was yeah there was no other option like those tasks when they're presented and you're like i don't even know why this is why is this a task because there's only this way to do it so i'll just do that and i guess it won't make the edit and then you see it and you're like oh there's four other ways i hadn't thought of and interestingly that was actually um i found out after the fact that was a tiebreaker oh right yeah that makes sense that was that was just one in the can just in case but because of just how wildly different everyone's interpretations of the brief were it became like i would argue one of the stronger tasks of the season um but yeah the sunscreen was great and then um again it's not one i felt i performed

particularly well in but uh there was a task called the the grape escape which was like so multi-layered yeah they essentially built a small like escape room and um again like it's just i think there's a there's a sort of a duality of thought where you're doing it and it's not going well and you're sort of on the cusp of a meltdown but you're also like wow this is you know really hats off to whoever wrote this task this is brilliant and you know and this is going to be funny for people like i think when you when with certain tasks when you cross over the threshold of this hasn't gone as well as i thought and then you're like i do you know always in my mind i'm like you've just got to finish the task

because you don't know how badly someone else has done and then when you get through even that to just being like well do you know what when i watch the show i actually quite like watching people capitulate so yeah that's the last thought when it's like oh god well i guess i'm the bad one in this i guess i'm the terrible one and that's fine people like the terrible one it's all right absolutely that sometimes they love the terrible one and i honestly i think i mean re-watching the episode for today's um for today's podcast that's part of what got me so excited is it's like it's i think quite rare for so early in the season for two people to self-identify as the terrible ones the thing is you look you know nish uh and obviously i know nish very well

nish loves being the terrible one he loves like early doors being like, I'm bad. I'm terrible. I'm going to make fun of everyone else for being good and trying too hard. And he really drags Mark in with him because Mark wants to win. Mark has Mark really wants to do well. He puts so much effort into this series and it just doesn't quite pay off. And this drags him down into his pit of despair. But do you, I mean, we can talk about more throughout the episode,

but do you know, like, we can talk about more throughout the episode, but do you know, like I think for Mark's mental health, that is the most sensible choice because already in this season, like he's clearly gone to such great lengths to interpret, especially the prize tasks and like, you know, you can just see there's a weakness in his presentation or a neurosis in the way he discusses these things which is like it's just like um you know it's it's like

a flame to a moth for greg where it's like if if there is a glimmer of a spirit to crush in front of him you know and to do that is to also make the funniest choice for the show he's gonna do it and mark is just sitting there and finished to like welcome him into his pathetic little sort of loser's chair and be like this is a love seat there's room for two it's actually quite beautiful yeah i agree it is nice but you're right about the weakness in presentation but he's given up before he's presented it even though quite often it's good like if you presented those things in a strong way, but he's like, Oh, okay, well, here's what I've got. That's what's so demoralizing. Cause you see the hours of thought and planning that have gone into them.

Just like fizzle out. I just also, Mark is like, he's such a funny, obviously he's just too, he's too bright. Like he's such a lovely, funny,

bright guy. And like I played when he did, he's done too he's too bright like he's such a lovely funny bright guy and like i played when he did he's done melbourne a lot and when i've done melbourne benedict there's always a comedian's football game yeah and mark is like it's i just his spirit is the same in that where he's just so enthusiastic and capable but there's something that's in his way and in playing football it is like it is speed he is the slowest like for a person whose body is going through the motions of sprinting i don't think i've ever seen anyone move slower but his body's doing all the right things that would suggest the sprint yeah like if you saw him without a moving background or other people around you'd be like whoa that guy's cantering i mean let's let's talk about the prize task in this episode,

Series 5, Episode 2, and we can sort of get some of your thoughts on some of the other contestants as we go through. So, I mean, let's talk about Nish first of all, because I think he was first up. So the prize task this week is the hippest item of headwear. Fairly straightforward, not too complicated um you like you love an item of headwear you've got a cap on now go i do yeah yeah i'm i'm a big hat guy i think the word hip is um i mean it's deliberately loaded

it's such an ambiguous word and like hip is almost a dated word for cool so in and of itself it's very difficult and then again you sort of have to have to think as greg you think well what does greg think is hip and like i can't imagine seeing greg in a hat and thinking oh i'd like that hat yeah well i don't even know that i can imagine seeing Greg in a hat. I've seen Greg in a hat. How does it look? Yeah, I mean, it looks... It doesn't look as natural as it does on some people, I'd say. But, I mean, sometimes I think he wears a hat to not be recognised. In fact, I do have a distinct memory of when I was on tour with Greg.

He bought a hat with him and he was like... Because he was getting recognised everywhere. And he put the hat on and he went it's solved it it's completely solved it like this hat for some reason people just don't recognise me he went you'll see and he put it on and we went out onto this high street somewhere and someone immediately shouted Greg Davis

at him or Mr Gilbert or something immediately imagine trying to camouflage his giant recognisable frame under a simple hat a hat that i mean he's so tall quite a lot of people can't see the hat the hat did not work it's the last thing you'd see may as well wear some fun shoes

um yeah so mish was first and mish is again he's in the firing line this entire season and it's not for the same reasons as mark but like because he can take it because he thrives as the not the heel but as the you know the bottom feeder yeah like it's just immediate it's the way the edit's done it's just like this is a hat my dad got me from disneyland and greek's like okay right one one point yeah it's very sweet though it's a beautiful hat too the colorway is good like it's the sentimental values through the roof is it hip there's kitsch value in a gift from disney disney world sure but that's not why nish is bringing it in you've met you've met nish like nish is not bothered? Sure, but that's not why Nish is bringing it in. You've met Nish.

Nish is not bothered about looking hip or he's not going, oh, this hat's got a sort of kitsch value. Nish will wear a black suit when he's performing and then the rest of the time he'll wear a Simpsons t-shirt. That's all Nish wears. He's not interested in kitsch value.

So this hat, the little smile he gave when he was talking about the hat and remembering his dad getting him the hat was very sweet but again like you say it's it's just open season for greg that's exactly what he likes to destroy yeah he's he's a sitting duck um but yeah i mean i i i personally i wouldn't have had it in last but but we can get to that later. Yeah. Well, let's talk about Mark. So it's the hat with a neon sign that he's paid to have made that says Taskmaster.

His mistake as well as saying 400 pounds, because of course the only funny thing to do in that situation is to not give him very many points. Yeah, immediately. But also, you know, Mark's got to get i that's obviously been weighing on his mind yeah like it's a sort of resigned delivery um and the it's it's you know it's it's it's very clever it's deliberate it's incredibly on brief but the hat itself is a huge problem. It's a funny little sort of red fedora style hat.

Yeah. I suppose maybe it was the only hat with the sort of independent structure to support a 400 pound neon sign. Yeah. It's not a great, it's not, yeah,

it's not a hip hat, is it? I mean, it's maybe hip if you were sort of in maybe 1970s America, you could probably describe that as hip. Yeah, but also quite loud. I feel like they were all wearing much more muted tones. Just while we're inside of the prize task conversation,

can I ask, Ed, were prize tasks one of the things you were the most excited for or that you sort of looked at as a challenge for you? It's tricky. Some of them I was very excited for. The ones that did well out of my prizes were not the ones I expected to do well. But it's that thing of, I think I did, it was up and down my prize tasks. But someone like Rose, who hated doing the the prize tasks and then she did the first prize task and then you just sort of you can imagine how the rest of them are going to go down

so every time we got to them she basically had her head in her hands before she said her thing which was she had the watson style of presentation which was wonderful to watch but like i also i know greg quite well so i i felt like that was a that was a bit of a cheat and certainly a bonus to have a bit of an insight into his mind and know that you know i could bring in a garden gnome with a massive dick and he'd think that was funny well i mean yeah you don't know someone well no that's gonna come over well how about yours your your price task that that seems like something that would play into what you enjoy doing uh yeah some of them some of them were great and then some of them i um again it's just so unpredictable and like i think jeremy and greg are unpredictable for different

reasons but if you get on the like if just in the first you know the opening exchange if you get on the wrong side of the tracks with you know what their interpretation of what you're doing is you're just scrambling and it's humiliating um i remember for one of them it was bringing the biggest bargain and i was like what i what i wanted to do was find a fake rolex and present it as real and be like can you believe i got this um rolex for 30 dollars and you know everyone would be like no you don't yeah it's unbelievable but um i couldn't find a fake like it's an incredibly hard thing to shop for online because yeah they've all been struck i mean i don't know where to get them i guess because yeah because i'm a goody two shoes who

only buys legal rolexes um and so i just wound up scrambling and bringing in like a an overly expensive um bottle opener that I bought which is like 120 New Zealand dollars which is like a pound I guess yeah and um it was like a gag one and I knew it and I sort of took it in and did it as a gag and it kind of got a laugh but I was also you know like then when you're competitive again you're balancing these things it's like i know that's you know is it worth is a laugh in episode five or whatever worth you know scrambling for points in episode 10 just thinking ahead as a comedian going is a laugh worth it in this situation and of course it is of course that's the best thing to do but you're just yeah i completely agree i completely i completely that resonates with me um let's uh let's talk about ashling b's uh hip hat um a yorkshire pudding hat modeled by taskmaster

celebrity dave gorman um yeah it's i i enjoyed this I think she's she's thought it through it's offbeat it feels like she's done some work for it and I think it deserved a few more points because I only got three points I thought I thought three was fair for the Yorkshire pudding hat and again I feel like it's one that could go it could go either way obviously having the alumni in there does bump up the relevancy of the the celebrity a little more and also to not address it is very funny it's very funny to you know it's very funny to bring a famous person in and not address the person yeah um which is satisfying but yeah i mean i i thought it was good and yeah i i'm i like talking about the sort of the competitive characteristics of the contestants. But again, I've got more to specific moments or tasks where I feel like I feel like we've been running our mouths all morning already.

Let's talk about Bob Mortimer, then, who brought in a military hat for a future war that vic reeves gave to him i mean this hat the thing is with bob i mean i don't know what's what's the sort of standing of reeves and mortimer and bob himself in in new zealand i am honestly working my way backwards to reeves and Mortimer so Bob funnily enough had one of my favorite uh recent episodes of or that I recently listened to of Off Menu yes he was and I knew him from Taskmaster but and thought it was very funny but hadn't like explored his oeuvre or whatever and then since then I've got his um audio book yeah and. And so once I've finished that, I'm going to go back and cut. And then I've watched a lot of his like,

would I lie to you cut downs and stuff. And I've got a sort of read on, well, as much of a read as I feel like you can get on Bob. Like I have an understanding that he's quite an impulsive and slightly, he's not David Correos, but like he's got an off kilter way of interpreting and seeing things. Yes.

I mean, once you hit Reeves and Mortimer, it's further off the kilter, I'd say. Yeah, great. You're in for an absolute treat. I'm really jealous of you. I mean, this military hat for a future war, I think, hits an area of humor that's so distinctly Bob Mortimer in that it's really weird. He presents it in a dry way,imer in that it's really weird. He presents it in a dry way,

but it's also not really weird. It's just in the pocket. It's just in the pocket of, you don't see that very often. It's quite odd, but no one else would present it like Bob does. Yeah, and it was actually my first place because on top of all of that, the comedic inbuilt value

and the you know articulation of a persona or person i thought it was the most likely hat to become cool or hip at some point i was like you got the gray sort of wool felt you've got the red stitching like this isn't this is probably five years away from milan or something yeah totally oh i can see that yeah and it's just i mean bob's so brilliant uh so that was four points but it would have been your five would it that would have been my five yeah so where would you have put sally's uh um hip hip beret as alex called it the the most literal way she could interpret it uh it with two hip bones stuck to a beret and a balaclava

i love sally i'm a huge sally fan but i would have had her in last i thought um i don't it just it reads as a beret and two hip bones like the balaclava is an afterthought and so it's not like it's just essentially what you've got is a beret which i guess is it's pretty hip but also when stacked up against the homework done by some of the other contestants except for maybe nish who's just brought in a cap um we can always when we say the other contestants i think we can assume we don't include nish in that yeah i mean yeah it was very clever but i just like it was it was almost so clever that the fact that didn't it wasn't perfectly perfectly executed made me want to mark it down which is probably unfair but that was just my instinct no i see what you mean i was i was quite impressed by it if i was on this series and she brought that i'd

be like i'd be kicking myself going like why didn't i think of that i see yeah i would yeah i would have been i would have uh gone for the same route that i can't remember who did saying that they looked like eyewear i would have been trying to haggle her down yeah oh no i would have said that out loud but i would be thinking i would be thinking i'm jealous but no, I would have said that out loud, but I would be thinking I'm jealous, but out loud I would have said that it was rubbish and really tried, really laid into it. Incredible how the brain works, that you can sort of be living these two simultaneous lives

in one moment. Yeah. What I would often do on Taskmaster, and I don't know if this resonates with you, is I would think, oh, that's quite good. And then just start talking and like trying to take it apart and be horrible about it for 10 to 15 minutes,

have an argument with them, have an argument with Greg, say it was bad. Why is it getting points? And then when Greg was like, it's getting these points, I'd be like, I quite like it actually. Yeah, yeah. And then just have to tell the truth and reel it back in.

Absolutely. I think we obviously so much gets cut. yeah yeah and then just have to tell the truth and reel it back in absolutely i think um we obviously so much gets cut like we there was so much cross talk and argument that i think across the season as we all got familiar with the rhythm and how it was all running that we probably started like arguing over one another less yeah my rule was always like you can argue it all the way to the line and then when the point's given out, you take your medicine and you move on. But until that moment comes... It's like when you're playing Mafia or Werewolf or whatever,

where it's like, until you're hung out to be killed, you're going to keep pushing your case. Yeah. Okay, so it's five points to Sally, four points to Bob, three points to Aisling, two points to Mark, and one point for nish as is

tradition well um it's uh headwear and it has some hips on it it's sort of more eyewear than headwear it's not it looks like hips are attached to the white balaclava and on the top of the balaclava in case this came up right i've attached a beret do you know how i described that in my notes i described that as hip hip beret task one make the best coconut flinging machine you have 20 minutes in one attempt furthest coconut fling wins your Your time starts now. A bit of a classic setup for a Taskmaster task in that it's asking you for the definition of machine and fling.

Those are two things to be argued with. Coconut, you can't really argue with. No, no. Yeah, coconut is a coconut is a coconut. Yeah. But the others, and it's actually, especially watching the um

construction process i haven't actually since watching the i watched our season back live and i watched a lot of taskmaster before it because i was sort of trying to build my own player of like how i might want to approach it the do's and don'ts but But it was, it alighted a lot of previous fears I had in doing the show. And one of them was like advertising my practicality or lack thereof. It was like the construction of things, just the understanding of basic mechanics and like physics. I was mortified that I would have to display like just how hapless I am. Were there any particular tasks in your season that displayed that?

You know what? I feel like I got pretty lucky. I'm trying to think of one. I remember Matt Heath tried to build a trebuchet, which again speaks to what people believe they're capable of. Well, yeah. The ones where I misconstrued it or didn't quite get it right. Like there's one where you're trying to get a Swiss ball into a kayak

and they cut a lot of my most humiliating footage, which was just like my brain scrambling to find things that might be able to roll a ball a certain distance to a kayak. You know, like I pretty much emptied the shed and took it down to the dock. It's so hard. It's so hard because i do this all the time where and especially on taskmaster where you might be called upon to build something like this and in my head i know exactly what i'm going to build and then i start doing it and realize i have literally no idea how to do it no it's i honestly i feel like i still live in like my understanding of the world

is that of like a 10 year old in a cartoon which is just like everything exists and i accept that and like you know i have no idea the process between someone thinking of it and it being there but i'm like yeah there are experts working on everything of course it's not my everyone's got their job that's how society works exactly i'm not gonna muscle in on that in on that game thank you yeah it's called supporting the economy um i'm being supportively ignorant if you don't mind so yeah i i just watching the construction process because again in our one like there's so we you you talk through so much of your process and your thinking and like you define the parameters of what you're going to do and your interpretation of it and then so much of that gets trimmed that you often just wind up with like you read the task you do the task and then

there's an hour of you talking about your process just like in an edit suite somewhere with some poor bastard who's like lived inside your brain trying to cut this thing together so to actually watch the the building of it was very satisfying and also to watch people just be so hopeless um so confidently hopeless i actually really enjoyed i found it very inspiring yeah i mean it's they were never going to get the the absolute impressive coconut fling that you'd hope for that no one was ever going to build something that suddenly catapulted a coconut like 1500 meters or something yeah yeah to nish's credit of the first three because they they packaged them as it was sally ashling and

nish yeah and like sally's fulcrum first of all when she said fulcrum it worked i was like oh shit you know she knows yeah she knows um i thought that she was going to build something brilliant but it sort of became this cardboard mess and then ashling with the uh was sort of like onto something maybe and then introduced the roller skate and i was like you've got too much you know too many ingredients you're making a soup and you're putting something in the soup that doesn't like you're putting the bread in the soup you go yeah they don't actually credit about halfway through when she realized it wasn't going to be good she decided to be the funny bad one and just have a cup of tea she she's so smart and she's so sharp just like i've got to do something with this

and i'm gonna have a cup of tea one of the funniest laughs was when she's like how long and it's like 11 minutes and she's going to suddenly become worried and he says what about because i time my sleep such a good call but nish is his advertisement for the bow and arrow he built like before he actually launched it even though i know the outcome i thought well done nish nish is very good uh sort of proclamations or exclamations before he does something that he knows is going to be bad um yeah i was actually at a uh a golf driving range with nish three days ago and every time before he hit the ball he'd say something different um see you in space to the moon and you can imagine how far the ball went after he said those things yeah really really good um and yeah fat Indian Robin Hood I mean Nish no yeah just perfect

but you know what it didn't it didn't go as badly as i would have expected like it went some distance yeah there was the opportunity for it to just fall immediately at his feet or go behind his like yeah i was trying to remember i i think i conflated two tasks because the task he does later in the season it's a throwing task or something yeah it's like the most comical worst possible outcome befalls him like rebounds or something but i can't remember it i'll have to keep going on the season i mean if it's if it's the worst possible outcome befalls him you're really gonna have to be more specific yeah yeah yeah what i need is a super cut of nish in taskmaster but it's great great. I mean, I love that.

It's that thing of, I'll use a bow and arrow. Why would you think you could design and build a bow and arrow that fires a coconut? Yeah. He's a smart guy.

But like, and even in all of that, so they all go and Sally gets 5.5 meters or whatever, which is already good enough for third place. That to me is like the

spirit of taskmaster which is just just finish you just especially if you're playing it competitively it's like you just got to finish because you really do not like threes can win a whole season you just do not know how shit like someone will nearly always shit the bed on a task yeah you know everything helps talking of uh shit in the bed let's talk about mark this was just this was outstanding i don't know he did he didn't seem to consider anything other than using a hat he he captured um like the worst your worst fear or some of your most harrowing memories of taskmasters so brilliantly where he's standing around and alex is sort of looking at him like

it's sort of the entire show hinges on you doing something just anything paralyzed there's no wrong or right answer in this mark just do something the only wrong answer is doing nothing and it's like the feeling you have when those cameras are pointing at you and you've got to come up with something it is you know like it's depending on your mental state at different points there's different weights of pressure you feel but when you're when you're sweating it amplifies that sweat so much yeah i yeah that was that was a disaster and you can see it bothered him because he edited a wikipedia page which again is like perfectly in keeping with his character on the show, which is like.

Under pressure collapses. But when he has time to think about it and put in loads of work, he can totally do it. But again, the problem is that you can always see he's putting loads of work and Greg is always going to gleefully smash right through there. But especially as he's clearly thought while he's putting it in a hat that in the studio he'll because he's so smart he's such a clever guy mark that he'll be able to argue that a hat is a machine he's banking on his negotiation skills his sort of skills of debate but then

like you say as soon as he gets into the studio he just crumples under under greg's gaze it's it's almost you know you can and he's a professional comedian like he's a talk he talks for a living yeah but he's not he's not up against a judge i suppose in his shows except for the audience and laughter is the only thing that you're trying to earn but like yeah because his intellect is incredible but his negotiating skills are you, like devastatingly bad. Bob, very calm. I mean, Bob's very calm because if Bob has an idea, he does it well. And if he doesn't have an idea,

he does something silly. And at no point does he care if it's bad or not. So that's Bob's credit. And he uses a crutch and he flings the coconut. I would argue, Guy, I don't know about you, if a hat isn't a machine then neither is a crutch yeah there's um there's a gray area there and it like my instinct is to be more forgiving to the crutch also because yeah it was like there is a part of the crutch which

the coconut nestled into so neatly that even that made it more visually satisfying where i was like wow a crutch has got multiple moving parts like a hat just does one thing but a crutch has got like you know like you can adjust the height of a crutch yeah the handle there's a bit more going on but it's more machiney but it's still i wouldn't call it a machine for the same reasons i wouldn't call a hat a machine but But then the fact that Mark panics about it while he's doing it, he's going, oh, it's a hat a machine. And Bob just does it.

I think that's why he gets the points. And Mark undermines himself while he's doing it. Yeah, which is brilliant. It's great. It's great, Tilly. Oh, it's fantastic. It's two points to Mark, reduced, obviously, because he got it the furthest,

but reduced because he did it in a hat. Two points to Aisling. Three points to Nish. He's so proud of himself for getting three points. Four points to Sally and five points to Bob. I put it to you, Mark, that a hat is not a machine. Your other hat was more a machine, the one you paid 400 quid for. Yeah!

LAUGHTER I did find evidence on the internet that a hat can be a machine, which I then sent to Alex. You did send me a link to a site which it seemed like there was evidence that machines could include hats. Do you want to see it? It's called Wikipedia. And the entrant on machines, the final word there, you can see a list of machines. LAUGHTER Computers, televisions, radios and hats.

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Or we can demand more from ourselves. At York University, we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. Task two. Paint the best rainbow scene. You may not open the lab door until the task is complete. You have 10 minutes. Your time starts now. And of course, all the lights are off. That's the important thing to remember here. All lights are off this is a great task yeah anything with a little hack on the side yeah is always um and it's the sort of task that poisons you when you're competing because you think that there is a little hack for everything

and you sort of you know you you spend like so many tasks trying to find the hack or thing of the hack and then you wear yourself out and by the time you get to the task where they've actually built in a hack you're just like which in my season was um open the can of beans and there was a table full of tins of baked beans that had tomatoes in them yeah and like you know but it was all everything was slightly different and i i bombed it and like which is again which is so brilliant with mark in this one where it's like he see you know everyone else does their performance and mark sees it yeah he turns it on and then it's just it's so funny to find the hack and still bomb the task it is fantastic i mean what else was he going

to do to to realize to turn the lights on and think outside the box your brain to work in that way is very impressive but the only way mark could then go was and no one was expecting when they put the picture up and alex says there's some there's one detail that he's missing a completely flat rainbow yeah well you know in addition to all of his intelligence mark is also famously a flat earther so in some respects it makes a lot of sense it was outstanding um but nish nish another one both of them in a similar way nish found the other hack which was the all the smell of the color and then he found that's like the idiot that's the idiot's

hack that's like a you know it's a false it's a red herring of sorts i guess because they're like yeah you could sure you can sniff the paint if you want man fill your boots sniffing paint it's gonna take a while no one else even thought to sniff the paint because why would you huff on a tin of paint? Yeah. So yeah, Nisha's was... What was his painting again? It was just a rainbow. So I think the argument was...

Not a scene, that's right. It wasn't a scene. And also I think the colours were... I think he got them in the wrong order as well. Yeah. I mean, I must say, before I start laying into anyone else for that, I also did a rainbow-based task that needed a hack

because we had a blindfold put on us. And if we found the dodo, we could take our blindfold off. And I was the only one to find the dodo. I took my blindfold off and then got the colors of the rainbow in the wrong order. Well, it happens to the best of us. And also to you i i was really taken there's a lot i loved in this task namely sally outlining what she wanted to draw for her her rainbow scene which is like because sally has kind of a like a you know she's got this incredibly composed presence

and she's so like demure yeah and you know in the first the first episode of the season she does like i think one of the most insane interpretations of a task i've ever seen with that special cuddle task yeah it's like she comes and you're just like you know i've got no idea what you're like beyond your comedic performances but i would never in a million years have kissed this and so she's got a few more of those coming up as well um yeah giving there's there's one where she gives birth to alex and there's another the water cooler moment where she's in the caravan with the water cooler she's just she's like off the chain she's great she's had such a characteristically normal episode so far and then she's like two lesbians test your strength machine

where's that buried in her head you're fucking crazy sally phillips to have that at the forefront of your mind is she in the car on the way in just being like well whatever happens today i'm getting in two lesbians at a test strength machine i've got one in the bank you know just to calm yourself on the drive to the the set you think okay i'm just gonna have one in the chamber so that you know whatever they throw at you you're prepared it's so it's so funny as well because it's not i don't it's not offensive it's not on the light because it's also not a stereotype that i've ever heard before it's not no it's just she's just like grabbed the word rainbow and thrown an alternative interpretation yeah um really good and then ashlings i was just like

blown away by the actual visual like the artistic merit of what she did in the dark no less it was pretty impressive she's a gun with a paintbrush am i wrong am i crazy for thinking this you're not wrong you're not wrong i mean it's a shame that greg brought up that it looked like a leprechaun smith and shit because then you can't really unsee that yeah yeah well yeah i mean but it did look a little bit like the leprechaun yeah i was having bowel trouble i but also i mean also doesn't it enhance the scene and then bob's was uh bad from memory it was really bad yeah but i'm so everything bob says i'm charmed by so the fact he created that story of the little man running away from the police i was like oh five points

yeah yeah absolutely i actually also thought that mark's little throwaway like i that this is the thing with taskmaster is because you've got all these you know brains and if you get if you get their like response at the end of tasks and all the synapses are firing so hard there are so many throwaway laugh lines that like you know when you go back to rewatch seasons you're just collecting all these moments that you might have skimmed over like when mark is being challenged for his scene like you know it's not incredible something it's like whoa i've got two witnesses saying wow it's just like it's just these beautiful tidy little details to to qualify the decision making but yeah bob's again was that and bob's what was bob's line when he said it's not every morning you wake up and someone's been murdered on top of you.

So fantastic. Just great. I mean, this cast is particularly special, I think. I mean, all the casts are good, but just the way this cast click together is particularly memorable. Yeah. It's also like,

I feel like they organize themselves into their um you know their factions very very quickly which is also like what's such a delight about bob and sally on this season is it's so rare for the two more um stately cast members to both be like in my estimation the wild cards yeah that's so good yeah it is great and i mean you'd say they organize themselves beforehand. I mean, yeah, Nish went in there knowing because he'd obviously filmed all the tasks. He knew what was coming up.

He told me he thought they were... He went in there being like, well, there's two I know I've done well in. Two? He must have filmed 50. It's like, you know, it's... I don't know. It's self-protection, isn't it? You can't,'t you know like if you only believe you've done well in two there's no possible realm in which you can

experience disappointment no i'd say that with everyone else guy that it's self-protection nish knew he'd done well in two because he'd only done well in two it can be whatever you want for the rainbow scene Two beautiful gay women. Yes, if you could. I'm going to do something very xenophobic against Irish people. Which is put a little pot of gold where all the leprechauns do be hanging out. My very first job was as a painting decorator. I saw the woman whose house, first house we painted,

and she said it had never need painting since because it fucking burnt down. Task three. There is a loaf of bread in the lab. Slice the loaf as neatly as possible. You may use one tool only, and that tool must be found in this caravan. You have five minutes.

Your time starts now. It's a lovely task. It i mean ashton's the only one who falls into the the horrible trap of them leaving a loaf of bread in the caravan and she does that one instead the the classic bread trap um and on the other end of the spectrum in a rear you know display of brilliance i was really taken by nish thinking to test his cutting device on the um the loaf of bread provided yeah like you know that was a that was that was a really a brilliant stroke um so yeah ashling's undone immediately and then i yeah i i I think that shows maybe a lack of obsession with the show. Because obviously, as soon as I see there's a loaf of bread in the lab,

I know exactly where the lab is. I'm going straight there with my thing, right? Whereas Aisling, maybe... You get a tour at the beginning of the series, sure. And someone says, this is the lab, this is the... But maybe she hadn't quite taken that in or she didn't remember that that's what that room is yeah i also think hers was shot hers is visibly shot at night yeah so you know the way that the tasks fall on any given day you don't know what's going to land where and if it's you've

been on your feet you know trying to think of funny creative solutions to problems for eight hours or whatever and it's like there's a loaf of bread cut the loaf of bread you have five minutes until you can go home you're gonna be like okay that life i'm cutting that loaf yeah this is pretty much what she does she's sitting down both things are with an arm's reach but at no point did it occur to her alex isn't here alex is normally there for the tasks and he's just stood in the lab waiting for her it was great it was a lovely shot i actually found myself i'm feeling sorry for alex when they hid the footage of him in the lab no i can speak to that i used to live with Nish and that's how Nish slices bread anyway. With whatever book of poetry he has on hand, he's a huge word guy.

Yeah, he loves words. He navigated the book like a knife. It was incredible. Yeah, it was incredible. And then on the other end of that spectrum, Mark took out what looked to be a pretty solid thing, but as soon as he was putting it into a loaf of bread, it was softer than the bread itself. It's like this mangled, heavily bent piece of metal at the end of it.

But still four points. This is the wonderful thing when they get five and four points and Aisling's disqualified and Bob and Sally are disqualified for using more than one tool. That's when you really see... I think Nish physically drags Mark towards him.

He does. In a sign of, this is me and you, we're so bad at this. Finally a victory. Yours wasn't the most obvious choice of knife. No, in the sense it wasn't a knife, it was more a grill. Yeah, I... Pretty blunt. I have to say, I'm increasingly starting to understand

why we're being grouped together in the way... Me too, me too. ..because when you got that grill out, I was like, this guy's a fucking genius. Achieve the greatest splat. One teammate must be splatted for the splat to be valid. You have ten minutes to choose your splatting materials, then 10 minutes to pull off your splat.

Your time starts now. Team test day is interesting because did you know who was in your cast when you're doing it? Yes, I knew who was in the cast. I didn't know who was going to be in the team when we arrive for the day. When team day arrives, you don't know what day it is

and you don't know who you're going to be with. And also you don't know how you're going to respond to who you're being paired with and when nish is when nish is standing there and mark walks in and you know you both obviously like ah obviously we're in the same team and uh nish says like something like what's going on and then mark just sort of like it's like almost got a thousand yards there it's just looking slightly off camera he's like well yes and i i feel like i saw a moment where maybe he was communicating that this is not the optimal partnership to you know exercise both of their respective strengths yeah i think i think you're probably right yeah no when i when i arrived for team day as soon as so i think i walked in and katie wicks was there and then i saw there was another seat so i was like it's going to be rose because

they will have they will have done it along age lines um so i was very excited for that team and it was obviously uh david baddiel and joe brand um and neither of them i'd not really met either of them before so i was like if I was in a team with them, there probably would have been a certain amount of reverence when they turned up to be in a team. I mean, followed by, no doubt, just sheer anger at David Baddiel's incompetence.

So it would have gone from, really swung from, oh, David, I really like your work. Thank you so much for everything you've done in the world of comedy. You're a big part of my comedy history as well. Immediately followed by, what the fuck are you doing david it's a real don't meet your heroes kind of situation especially when you're being filmed doing natural thinking together no one comes across well yeah your team your team was great though i seem to remember you guys were

were pretty were pretty solid you're pretty good yeah we were we had um well like we all do we were in an improv uh group together which obviously yes to even do improv together you both have to suffer through you know so much humiliation and degrading like you know arty theater games where you're um you know like you're trying to break down any sense of humiliation you have in front of each other which i think is a big leg up but still i think it helps to have a sort of a senior figure or some sort of um designated authority figure because we strip we we i mean i think we did we did really well and some of our team tasks my favorite tasks in the whole show like the the puppet show is i would say it's you know it's

pretty outstanding it's like it was like a 40 minute show on the day uh well i what i loved about that as well and i said that to david as well that you you all bring your own strength to it like it's some outstanding writing and performance from both you and laura and david brings just loads of jizz how did that go i take it it was written and then david went and then this character's gonna jizz and you're like yeah if i will let him have that yeah well we were brainstorming our show and there's a period we were worried worried. We were ripping off animated show, big mouth.

Cause we were doing like, you know, kids learning about puke. And we thought, ah, it's going to be pretty bad if we're, if we're doing a puppet show, big mouth.

And like the whole time that Laura and I sort of having this mild panic about what we're presenting, David's just cutting his hair and gluing it to the front of one of his handmade puppets. that it has pubes Oh great really strong so good but let's return to this team task

it's a great task and I mean the image of Mark Watson being splattered with liters liters upon liters of yogurt i think the words splat undersells his physical response to the yogurt hitting him he's being like pelted he like it looks like i don't know if there was a even a line about in the studio but it looks like it's causing him physical damage. And he also looks like he bruises easily.

Yeah, totally. I bet he was covered in yogurt bruises. Which is a funny bruise, obviously. Yeah. I loved both teams. It's such a good cast, isn't it? And it's such a good episode like i love both teams interpretations of the task like bob's piss balloon ashling and sally's enthusiasm for bob's

piss balloon yeah like sally lying there with a sword you know and then the satisfaction of one of them hitting the sword is is really cool and looks really cool and then like his stabbing and the dancing it's all just so beautiful and then yeah market the simplicity of market dishes which is like okay we'll get a lot of yogurt i guess it's so good and it also like sets up the rest of you know intrigue and excitement for the rest of the team tasks for the season where it's like you have one there's no one can be hyper competent and task master but yeah you look at a team of bob eschling and sally and you're like you know these two are going to come up with some some solutions they're all bringing so they're all bringing something

yeah and they're going to come up with something good from from their different skills whereas mark and nish are all both coming from the same direction and yeah that direction they're gonna have they're gonna have a lot of trouble and that is such an exciting feeling to have on only the second episode of the season just mark being like assaulted by yogurt and no i there's got to be an element i think if i was being pelted by yogurt i'd probably try and take it for a bit like there would be some shot to me being still like taking the yogurt, but he is immediately shielding from the yogurt as if he wasn't expecting it. Yeah.

So it's like a really sort of interest. I didn't really come into play, but the way that the helmet he was wearing was cut, like the visor reached sort of lip level. Yeah. It's a really interesting possibility for sort of yogurt on the chin um it was it was three points uh for mark and nish uh and two points for ashley bob and sally i see i see why greg went went in that direction because there was certainly more

splat directly onto mark and the simplistic idea of the buckets of yogurt i think worked better than the swords which were an impressive idea but didn't quite pay off in the same way yeah and they also they you suffer like you know um the first impressions count and you suffer when the first two balloons you drop just sort of very gently bounce around yeah yeah totally because once they got splatting there there were some great splats, but you can't beat a bucket of yoghurt directly to Mark Watson's face. Famously.

Yoghurt is a good splatting material. A big bucket full of yoghurt. A bucket full of yoghurt. Ambrosia rice. It's traditional, isn't it? Because there are lots of balloons full of cream. What colour balloons? All green, apart from one that's yellow and that's

the piss bun. We'd like two big buckets and all the non-sat yoghurt. Money combined. Let's talk about the live task. With your face placed firmly in your hole at all times, paint the most recognisable animal, vegetable or mineral. You must

incorporate your face in the picture. Most accurate representation of an animal, vegetable or mineral wins. You have incorporate your face in the picture. Most accurate representation of an animal, vegetable, or mineral wins. You have three minutes. It's a good live task. There were some outstanding live tasks in your season, I think, as well. Yeah, the live tasks, well, something I was probably the most, not nervous about. I love live performance, but know doing them on the on the on the day

you only have to worry about yourself yeah and again it comes back to that sort of competitive spirit where it's like it's very difficult not to be measuring your performance immediately against the people who are around you but yeah like i thought that was so great. My favorite was actually, I think I came last, was the Onions or No Onions. Yes. It's honestly a great parlor game for anyone, any time. Yeah, it's a great premise for a game. So that one, just describe that one for the listener. Was that you had to go behind and you either put onions in a was it in a you're

not putting them in so there's there's there's basically there's a curtain and behind the curtain there are two briefcases one of them has onions in it the other one has no onions in it and you walk past you pick it up and you walk to like a mat a marked point on the stage and you put the briefcase down and then jeremy has to guess onions or no onions yeah so it's it's a simple guessing game but there's different ways of presenting the onions and um i i tried to sort of go businessman like you know i didn't even give myself a chance to think because i think often thinking will undo you but jeremy i'm pretty sure guessed because i think i had onions I think he he's like a

precision, he's a big cricket fan so he thinks about coin tosses I guess but I think he just guessed the same one every time and they happened again in another prize task with the lemonade roulette where he just kept guessing the same way and I think he eliminated us all without anyone getting a point

that happened a couple of times to you guys i think where everyone got knocked out um so this i mean this one is this one's great and as as greg says at one point you know you can literally pick any animal any vegetable or any mineral and there's how many carrots are there three carrots three carrots three carrots to be fair that's where my mind went immediately it's the easiest you're under time pressure there's nothing that says it has to be original which is what makes i mean first of all ashling's decision to go cat and again she's obviously good at painting because it's a pretty good cat yeah i you know admirable and bob's decision to go it is an obviously an ice cream cone yeah and he's trying to represent ice cream but it almost looks like an ice cream cone with two halves of a banana split

and no ice cream it's mad it's also mad to hear animal vegetable or mineral and go ice cream that almost feels like it doesn't fit it doesn't fit any of those categories so true but the rest of the carrots and even even at the point where they they realize their carrots and sally and nish start painting each other's faces and Mark's just left. He's even left out of the carrot gang. Yeah. He's having a hard time. But I mean, you know,

he gets his carrot points. It's, he's okay. Yeah, he's all right. He's good. He's all right. Mark's okay. It was five points for the carrots and the cat um and then four points for bob's ice cream

meaning that sally wins the episode with 20 points mark and nish in second with 19 points this is probably the closest nish comes to winning an episode all series that is what i thought i as soon as there was the double elimination of bob and sally in the bread task and they're still not in front i think you poor boys um ashling uh got 17 points and bob got 16 points mark is actually in the lead in the series at this point uh which is quite amazing uh bob and sally Hot on His Tail, then Nish and then Aisling. I mean, that changes fairly rapidly, I seem to remember. Guy, we've got some emails for you from listeners.

Would you like to answer some emails for us oh yeah more than anything and i only came on the podcast for the emails ma'am well we've got a lot we've got a lot of them after we said that you're on genuinely um and a lot of them were about your t-shirts uh so okay here's one that sort of represents a lot of them um hi guy ned uh love your running gag with the paul williams shirts who was your photo source and was there much studio chat about them that got cut in the edit or did everyone just decide to ignore them after the first couple of episodes it was my favorite running gag and i love the commitment that's from modor in massachusetts usa oh wow massachusetts Massachusetts um yeah so the the Paul t-shirts the the idea to have a t-shirt of Paul for my task outfit was basically born of um I wanted to get Paul in some way like Paul is really

unflappable yeah and uh he's a very satisfying laugh and I actually the first thought I had was I was going to have a have a picture of myself on my t-shirt. I thought it could be funny, but then I thought it might be too much. And I thought, you know, second level thing.

What's funny. I thought, yeah, Paul. And so I, I wound up using, I don't know if I'm allowed to reveal my source, but someone in his inner circle as he says on the

show he was betrayed by someone very close to him and they unearthed this dropbox treasure trove of young paul and so before i even chose the t-shirt i was going to wear for my task outfit i had like paul through the ages you know i was i was drowning in paul and i i found the right t-shirt for the tasks because it was like clearly either it was he was on the cusp of puberty which is a tough time for any young person and it was like a yearbook style photo and i thought that's you know like that's the one pretty frustrated if someone showed up with me at that point in my life on a t-shirt for a tv show and so i did it and the whole time i was you know like all i was looking forward to is that first moment where he sees it and it reads on camera where he's like yeah huh

i and got that and then i can't remember if i thought of it before or after it's somewhere along the line and i had all these photos and i was like well do you know what i should just go all in yeah you can't waste them i tried to stack them chronologically so the first episode one i've got an um infant baby paul all the way up to episode 10 where i'm wearing uh present day paul and yeah the first few episodes they get acknowledged but then i think it just you know that stuff's never going to make it into the edit and it's the gag isn't seeing it and also not referencing it i think is is what makes it funnier definitely and it's it's lovely to it's lovely every time you start watching an episode to be reminded of it and to see the new one it's quite exciting you

don't need to chat about it you're just like oh he's found another photo somehow yeah and i i would try to like um especially initially because paul didn't know i was doing that either i wore an over shirt so that he wouldn't see it until we were doing so i could surprise him on the air again and then i tried to keep that gag going where i'd always cover it up for the first break and then take it off or something. And then in the last episode, I think I just came out all guns blazing, just Paul. This is from Kylie in Australia. Hi Guy and Ed, a big fan of Taskmaster in all its iterations.

My question for Guy is, what do you think about a cross nations Taskmaster and how would you feel about being part of it? Oh, I would love, I love the idea and i would love to do it so very dearly like you know part of the reason i felt like i was so competitive in or like i felt so competitive in our season is because obviously you you want to win but also just the back of mind possibility that we get enough seasons to a champion of champions and when you're doing taskmaster you're like this is the best you know aside from stand-up this is the best application of my this is the best job yeah i can get and the only like you know the only way you get to do it again is if you qualify for champion of champions yeah and so any

opportunity to do more tasks i like you know i i would love to put myself forward if they need people to test tasks if we get another season in new zealand yeah i would like you know just to just to experience the goddamn feeling once more i'm i'm up for a cross cross nations would be great i mean oh yeah who would you who would you like to come up against in a cross nations it might just be the recency of speaking with you and also knowing you are also competitive and have had greg's bust in front of me for the entirety of this chat ed but i would love to bury you in the sand well actually this let's let's talk about this email then. This is Kira from Exeter.

Long-time listener, first-time caller. My question is more an observation about the parallels between the UK and NZ Taskmaster versions. Guy and Ed both give me the same vibe and energy when on the show. Competent and aggressive when tasking, with a hint of trying to act reserved but failing completely. Do you think you two are similar in your performances i mean i feel like we've covered that kira i definitely i definitely think there are some similarities there is still something to be upset about in the email which is just the very plain clothes observation that i hid my

feelings badly i think you are better at hiding your feelings than i was i think you i think you're better at remaining calm some of the time yeah you and you and rose had a like you're you're i think the and laura and i are also incredibly close friends but there's something in the alchemy of your friendship which yeah the the pure like the most pure kernel of intense competition between you bleed out onto the show whereas i think laura and i we both knew we were sort of we were competing against each other and both knew we wanted to win but also didn't really want that to you know like it's just a line or didn't really want it to get in the way of just enjoying the process of making the show but yeah i can definitely i i mean yeah i could feel parent i

on my list of don'ts for the show was be too competitive massive success we'll finish with this question this is uh torren from adelaide asks my question is how well do you think you would do guy if greg davis was scoring you instead of jeremy wells and for you ed how well do you think you would do if jeremy scored you instead of greg uh it's interesting because i think they're both it's just it's hard to it's hard to know i i think i could do quite well with greg i feel like i could key into his sensibility and you know find ways to present my performance to try and endear myself to him but again like he's just got that he's got that teacher energy where it's if he decides you know today's the day that you're

going to be the heel of the class you're powerless to stop it so i believe i could do well but i guess you know i feel i feel like you would i feel like you you don't have that thing that we were talking about earlier that greg wouldn't necessarily relish crushing you yeah because as you said you take your medicine right you just you just deal with it whereas he enjoyed being mean to me because he knows as soon as it approaches anything sort of that feels vaguely unjustified i'm going to kick i go from naught to 60 in about a second and immediately get angry and you can see the look in his eye when i do it which is just sheer enjoyment of like i'm making i'm making my friend so upset i think i'd be more sort of simpering with jeremy because he's got a sort

of more sort of calm fatherly energy i think i think i'd feel like silences and be like please jeremy love me and i don't know how that would go down he does he does have that effect on you and he's also like you know he was it's the same with greg i suppose but growing like he was such a comedy icon for me yeah uh growing up that you are immediately um so excited to be sort of involved in a project with them and then more than that when you meet him he is like so striking yeah he's taller than you think he's got hands the size of feet and it's impossible not to simper and And those pictures pop up now and again of him, like glamour shots of him with no top on and stuff. Where you're like,

oh god, and he's ripped. This is unbelievable. So handsome. You see him running around Auckland. He runs so fast. I don't know. I'm imagining him running in a suit. Don't know why. There you go. He's wearing the full suit. Yeah, I like it guy you've been absolutely brilliant um we always ask our guests on the taskmaster podcast to rate

their experience between one and five points in the style of the taskmaster um look i hope you've enjoyed it you know i want the five points you know that's all i care about but feel feel free to use this window of opportunity to crush my spirit i i actually can't do it to you i i i was thinking today all day what am i going to dole out but i've had such a good time i can't give you anything except the five oh you've been brilliant man and do look do come back on uh to talk about another another episode in another series we'd love to have you back on and i imagine at some point hopefully the uk uh gets gets in uh the taskmaster new zealand series officially um and then we can chat about those as well but we'd love to have you back on what a feeling that would be thank you so much for having me ed enjoy the season i'm looking forward to listening thanks Guy there we are

that I think is one of my favourite episodes of the podcast that we've done so far thank you very very much Guy for coming on it's a very late night for him very early morning for me hugely inconvenient for everyone involved but what a lot of fun do keep watching along with us

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