Taskmaster The Podcast - Ep 95. Jack Bernhardt - S7 EP.7

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

Jackie B returns to the OG podcast to chat Series 7. And what an episode! They discuss the birth of the Knappett, the legendry extension task, the best Christmas Cracker plus Rhod goes in big on the no blinking task. Enjoy, your time starts now! Listen to Jack & Lou each week on the Taskmaster People's Podcast : taskmaster.tv/podcast Watch all of Taskmaster on All 4www.channel4.com/programmes/taskmaster Visit the Taskmaster Store for all your TM goodies!taskmasterstore.com Visit the Taskmaster YouTube Channelyoutube.com/taskmaster Get in touch with Ed and future guests:[e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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category, and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. Hello and welcome to the Taskmaster podcast. It's me, Ed Gamble, back again to talk about a specific episode of Taskmaster and discuss it task by task with a special guest. Today we'll be talking about Series 7, Episode 7. It's an absolutely iconic episode, stuffed full of some of your favourite Taskmaster moments. We have another brilliant special guest.

It is the very welcome return of the wonderful Jack Bernhardt, who is, yes, a Taskmaster statistician, a wonderful writer, and of course the co-host of the Taskmaster People's Podcast, of course the co-host of the Taskmaster People's Podcast, which is a little podcast that started up apparently the young upstarts of the Taskmaster Podcast cinematic universe. I'll be picking a few bones with him about that, thank you very much. People trying to come for my goddamn throne. No, it'll be lovely to speak to Jack. It's a great episode. What could be better? See you in a bit! It's a great episode. What could be better? See you in a bit.

Welcome back to the only official Taskmaster podcast, Jack Bernhardt. How dare you? Hello. Yes, how dare I? Of course, you are the co-host of the People's Podcast, which is sort of a, because this is really, it's an official taskmaster podcast because i'm a massive fan of the show taskmaster and the people's podcast is sort of a companion piece to this podcast would you say jack so it's you and lou going we're such big fans of ed we're gonna do a podcast based on his taskmaster podcast am i correct jack that's nearly right in in the sense that all the details are very much wrong um but i would say that we're more of the

cool edgy underground podcast yes like we're the we're the punks you're the um you're like harold mcmillan and we're the punks i mean if i if i had to describe you in one word jack it wouldn't be punk well i do have a mohawk, obviously. Lou, I would definitely, she's got a punk attitude, but I do see you as the square. It's like you've been employed to keep Lou under control. Five minutes in and I have to say again, how dare you? I think I've become very punk since I've been doing the podcast with Lou. I'm all over the shop now. I say things like, woo.

That was actually true that a lot of, a lot of the times when we're recording producer, Ben will say, uh, we need a lot of energy and don't just go woo. And I'll go, oh, sorry. Okay, cool. That's the only, that's the only way you know how to get energy into your life is saying the word woo woo here we go look it's a very good podcast jack um you do a quiz every week where you go up against a super fan of taskmaster and i always normally normally lose i'd say yeah yeah it's not been fun i lost to a nine-year-old a couple of weeks ago i had a i had a long look in the mirror after that yeah you've got you've got to you simply got to um now we're talking about series seven episode seven here let's get down to the meat of the issue

um fan of series seven i mean dare i ask you're a fan of all of it of course a fan of all of it i mean like i say it's like pizza uh taskmaster. Even when it's not quite the pizza you wanted, it's still very, very good pizza. Yeah, they sometimes throw some ingredients on the top of the pizza where you're like, oh, I didn't think that combination would work. And then you bite into it and you realize you are a pineapple guy. You're a pineapple and goat's cheese kind of guy. Yeah.

Who's the goat's cheese of Taskmaster? Okay, don't think about that now. But I don't think this is one of those series. think oh no i think this is uh this is pepperoni really this this is a classic pepperoni all your big hits are here pepperoni um who's pepperoni in this series well see i think i think carrie godleman is is i think carrie godlin's pepperoni didn't you on the taskmaster podcast weren't you talking about how carrie godleman is pepperoni. Didn't you, on the Taskmaster podcast, weren't you talking about how Carrie Godleman was people tapas? That's what Carrie describes Taskmaster as, is human tapas.

Human tapas, there we go. Because it's lots of little different flavours. I completely disagree that Carrie's pepperoni. I should yes and that, really. But Carrie is the base. Oh, that seems mean to Carrie. No, not at all she's she's absolutely necessary she holds it all together and uh she's crispy and crunchy

but isn't alex the base no i'm not they're not part of the pizza they're the chefs okay you wouldn't you wouldn't go um you wouldn't go to pizza express and eat the first slice and go i'm really tasting the um um chef you wouldn't that is true ed you wouldn't go to pizza express lick the chef and say that is the the entree carries the base carries who's who's pepperoni then rod i think rod's spicier than that and i know what you're gonna say pepperoni is spicy but i think spicier than pepperoni what so what else is on this pizza you absolute mad man oh it's a meat feast it's an andouille sausage i would say right we're terrible we should never be in an improv group we keep establishing premises and then the other

one just goes against it look it's a good series no but that's the improv show yeah no but with ed gambler jack bernhardt come and see it um we rarely show up at the same time the show never goes ahead because we tell each other the wrong time i would say the show is mostly the argument after the show yeah where we talk about how our scheduling was completely wrong. Good idea for a show. Jack, now you're a stat man. Obviously, now that you've abandoned this podcast to start the People's Podcast, you do get a lot of your... You sort of express a lot of your stat breast milk

on that other podcast. But do you have any dregs for us about series seven today? I do have some dregs to spurt out to you. Disgusting. I was looking this up because I was curious. Did you know that Kerry Godleman scored 71 points in the studio? As in, like, in live tasks and prize tasks. No other contestant,

so only one other contestant has scored more and that was Guz Khan. Wowee. That is amazing. She hoovers them up in the studio. Also very surprised that Guz Khan scored more than that because his prizes were quite bad. They were quite bad,

but A, he sold them and B, the time in the live task, he got a bonus point for 10, the 100th episode, he got 10 bonus point for the 100th episode. He got 10 points. Oh, right. Okay. That'll be it.

That's it, really. Carrie's very industrious in the studio. She is. She's also the second shortest contestant in the history of the show and the shortest winner. Oh. And, of course, we mustn't forget the only contestant shorter than her was Wee... Wee Timmy. Wee Timmy, do you remember?

Wee Tiny Timmy. He was on Series 8, but no one ever saw him because the cameras didn't look down. It's tragic. His agent was furious. But his agent's so tall that he never sees him anyway. Tall Michael. These are good Series 7 facts. I love it. Who is shorter than Kerry? Is it Richard Herring?

Do you know what? Richard Herring's only just taller than Kerry. Of course. And that's because he has lifts in his shoes. Again, as I said on the People's Podcast, all of these facts about heights are coming from the internet, which is just incredibly wrong. It's like, oh, Lou Sanders is between four foot and seven foot tall and has a net worth of 85 million pounds. I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Sian Gibson is the only other of course the shortest person and she complained about the tasks being against short people in her series do you think that's true i we looked it up um i don't think it is basically i think people do very well in the show so i think there's um there's one task in this episode which is uh prejudice against short people but let's let's carry on very true um before we get stuck into this episode jack series 14 is on the horizon it's tantalizingly close oh um i know you very much deal with stats aka the past but could you look into the future and perhaps predict some things for series 14 perhaps a winner perhaps a loser perhaps who's going to do well who's going to flourish jack

i i've thought about this a while i i mean i think about obviously i think about taskmaster constantly and i think about taskmaster series 14 a lot at the moment as it's as it's coming up surely at some point very excited um i i don't know it's a tough one i mean for me for me i think millican i think millican i can't see much past millican i know on the on the people's podcast i said john kerns but that was because it was relying on stats because most winners are either um near the coast or from london i don't know how i know this this is a this is a nonsense fact um and john kerns is the only one who was born in london of this right so so it feels like a safe bet londoners tend to do quite well for some reason um but i don't know i feel millican's got it i've just i've just got a feeling. She's a solid bet, I think.

But then you've got to think about Dara, who I think is quite committed to these things. Dara is, of course, in the first chair, though. Oh, that's true. No one in the first chair has ever won. And I feel like... Dara's committed, but I feel like it could be the commitment of an Ardell

or a David Baddiel, where it goes very... He cares, but it goes very wrong very quickly. I mean, I think you've misjudged David Baddiel and Taskmaster. That guy was not committed at all. In a sense, he was committed. He turned up. He fulfilled his contractual obligation.

I have no idea what the show was. That's true. There is another person I'm thinking of, but I can't think of who it is, who is more committed, but also does terribly. James Acaster, really. Yeah, I suppose so.

But then looking at the actual stats for the series, he actually won more episodes than I would assume he did, judging by the fact he came second bottom. Ed, I've got another fact that's linked to that. Please. Did you know that Rod and James both won 15 tasks by the fact he came second bottom. Ed, I've got another fact that's linked to that. Please. Did you know that Rod and James

both won 15 tasks, like each? And that's good, is it? No other contestant has won more tasks than them. Wow! Isn't that amazing? Yeah, that's really, really good. Only Daisy Mae Cooper and Lisa Tarbuck have won 15 that's absolutely amazing

not even you Ed you didn't even win that many no no and even less by the time I did Champion of Champions we're not talking about

Champion of Champions today no we didn't mention that it didn't happen didn't happen didn't happen let's go back seven series to series seven um it's i mean this is we're just chatting before we started recording there's a lot of iconic moments in this series in general but there's a lot in this episode it it's sort of a greatest hits in a single episode i'd say well the whole energy of it is just chaotic yeah it's amazing i mean you say greatest hits

greatest uh being quite a broad term when we come to the prize task um most exciting thing beginning with g uh and i've got a stat for you now jack it's the lowest scored prize task round ever wow i did not realize that i mean when you look at the actual scores in the end i mean we normally do these at the end but um but uh yeah two points for two competitors and one point for three it is bad it's bad i don't think it's that bad greg was in greg seemed to be in a bit of a mood so i think greg was in a mood because of uh alex having pierced ears he seemed genuinely very annoyed by that yeah he did i mean yeah that sort of did put him in a mood i'm just i wonder about those all the time how do you how

do you get fake spaces i don't so actually on the on the um we had the assistant producers uh on the show on uh taskmaster people's podcast last week uh with lou sanders listen uh wherever you get your podcasts from um and uh i didn't ask them about that but they do all that kind of stuff like all the time and it's just for like one second jokes i i was watching it i i don't understand it how how would he have done that no it must be we're probably being really stupid aren't we but i i couldn't see how it worked unless he actually got them done which must be he must have plugs he must have plugs i don't know anything i can think or or is it just like a bit of thing i don't know like is it it might be a bit of thing? I don't know. It might be a bit of thing, Jack.

Yeah, that's a good point. That's very technical. Let's go through these submissions. I think you're right. I don't think they're as bad as Greg says they are. But it is funny that he's in a bad mood and gives them such low scores. Let's talk about Phil's gold $5 bill. Yeah.

That cost $3.95. With the haggling bit that he's been doing, which I'd forgotten because Phil mentions this, it's always to a different audience, the show. So the payoff doesn't exist. There's no payoff here. He just keeps on doing this haggling joke and it's amazing. He commits to it every week.

It's always to a different audience. the other thing about phil that's funny that it's a different audience every time is you hear the audience seeing his costume for the first time it's true every single time so every single time you hear a new laughter a bit of laughter and shock and every time someone makes a joke about it it's the first time they're hearing a joke about it it's brilliant i mean it's the gift that keeps on giving for the audience yeah but for him it's the nightmare that never ends the nightmare indeed that never ends the phil wang story um it wasn't a great it wasn't a great prize i'd say but it's very it was very phil wang it is very phil wang uh in the sense that it's i i don't know how i don't know how he would have done these things do you think these are things that he bought beforehand surely but why was the why was

the price why was the price still on it i think phil really sticks to the rules with the price task so when he's asked to bring something in i don't think he goes out and buys something specifically i think he's genuinely bringing stuff from home so you think that he at home has a gold five dollar bill with the price still on it yeah yeah wow someone's given it to him um that's such an insight into his life how much he sticks to the rules by with the worst present that you didn't well the the present that you didn't want from another family member or something that's true whatever the exact thing was. And he got his sister to give him a used piece of toilet roll.

He was desperately sticking to the rules there, but as such, flagrantly disobeyed the rules. But look, a gold $5 bill, absolutely fine. It's not the best, but it's no one's top glory moment. Oh, sure. No one's remembering that. That's true.

The bowl of guacamole from Kerry. It leads to one of my favorite reactions from Greg in the whole of Taskmaster. He doesn't fully process it and goes, okay, and what? It's such a good reaction. It's so funny. It's so funny.

But I think he must have been in a bad mood because I can see on another day him loving the bowl of guacamole. Exactly. It's delicious big bowl of guacamole. It's really the whole... That's what I mean about this. The energy of this episode is very weird from the get-go

and I don't know quite why. And I think it does come from Greg just being like... It's like a teacher who's been given a piece of bad news before he comes in and sees a class. And then it's just like, right, that's shit. That's shit. What what is this and then the children are just handing over their homework being like here we go a poem for you sir yeah just a normal poem he's like rubbish just yeah die I I think it's it's odd because the guacamole didn't look good I will say that no no

because because Kerry had basically I'd imagine what happened is they'd said kerry what your price tasks and for g she said i don't know some guacamole so andrew for example would have had to go out and buy some supermarket guacamole that's what that was that was supermarket guacamole and supermarket guacamole is disgusting it is and it was also because it had been then been put into a bowl it sort of looked like it looked like a sundae yeah it was a very it was very unappetizing but i don't think i given greg's reaction to the mention of guacamole i don't think it would have done any better if it was homemade guacamole that's true i think but again if it'd been a good day if she'd said guacamole and he'd been like oh guacamole i like guacamole yeah because he's hungry

If she'd said guacamole and he'd been like, ooh, I like guacamole because he's hungry, then maybe she'd have done better. It's hard to know. Yeah, very hard to know. I'm trying to work out if... No, that would have been the first episode of a day, so they wouldn't have had dinner yet. So you should be hungry. Never mind. It was one point for that, anyway.

Jess brought in a signed poster of Greg. The way Jess leads into this is so funny because she teases it everyone knows immediately what it is everyone's annoyed james is gutted james is absolutely gutted when she says oh the best person beginning with g and he's like oh no and then she literally keeps it hanging for so long with a big smile on her face. It's so funny. And she got Greg to sign it under false pretenses. It's so funny.

And didn't need to do it under false pretenses at all. No, no, no. I checked what it says, what Greg wrote, by the way. And it said, we've never met, but I sense I would fall in love with you. He was writing that to himself in a way. he was writing that to himself in a way i love that she panicked as well and decided to give her dad's name as one beginning with g because she thought that was part of it as if as if they'd be like what his name is peter disqualified immediately gone yeah um very funny one point i mean it's one point but it should have been more again on a different day i think greg would have loved that i think because i think there have been a couple of times where

didn't someone else uh they they uh got him to sign a vegetable under false pretenses who was that in series four well there was best celebrity signature on the best vegetable wasn't yeah and was greg one of them oh yeah maybe he was all obviously all i can remember from that is sushi on a broad bean exactly it's it's that is Sousche on a Broadbean. Exactly. It's hard to look past Sousche on a Broadbean. But I feel like he found that quite charming. He liked the grift of it, as it were.

Yes. I think this was a bad day. This was a bad day. But he gave Rod two points. But I guess you've got to give an extra point for the effort of going to WEM to get the toys, right? Yes, except I think he'd gone to... this is when he got Blue Ted, wasn't it? Yes, Blue Ted and I'd imagine the picture of... Oh, no, someone else took the picture of Greg's mum in the bath wearing a dress.

You think that was one trip? You didn't go down for the shoot. I've got to pick up some toys and I've got to get a photo of you in the bath. Is that alright? Sure. This is why I don't think it should get any more than one point because it's a used task. He's already gotten that before. I don't know.

I know it's thin on the ground with points anyway and it feels mean to take one of the few people who've got two points. But, yeah. I mean, I think of this prize task a lot when i think about james on taskmaster gandhi's glasses because because of the way he describes the way he put his prize task together so he got he opened them on the train and then he just wrote them all in like he just literally went yep yep yep yep just wrote them all in one sitting like that really quickly so best thing beginning with g he's gone literally this quickly candy's glasses

why but i don't understand because james is so competitive and you can tell he's so competitive did he think he had done really well in the film tasks and he was like yes i think he had i think he did think that and but also, I mean, I think he just probably thought this was funny and it was funny to argue in the studio. And it is really funny. But he actually, he looks genuinely gutted that he's been called out on it at the end.

That they've gone, they're obviously not Gandhi's glasses. And he looks really quite sad that they realised. But why wouldn't they realise? This is what I don't understand from James's perspective. I did like his comment about them going down in value in eight years. But also, we're assuming that Gandhi only had one pair of glasses there. That's true. Maybe this is like knockabout glasses.

These might be his free pair that he got from Specsavers, so they would be worth much less. Yeah, one's worth 1.8 million, and the other one's free yeah that's how it works average out it's a good price but also he planned that little line which really makes me laugh the uh he had a vision for the world but he was given vision by these glasses i like that line because it said while greg is judging you can just see that you can feel the fury from Greg. Yeah.

Like, what are you doing here? But he gets two points. And I think a lot of that is because Greg is baffled by him. Yeah, yeah. So he's just like, give him another point, for God's sake. He's a weird boy. I don't want any arguments. So it was one point for Jess, one point for Kerry,

one point for Phil, two points for James, and two points for Rod. You're hoping to humiliate me with these toys, aren't you? No, I thought you'd be excited to see toys you probably haven't seen for 40 years. I am? Yeah. I'm excited to see this six million dollar man. The glove puppets were my sisters, so fuck you.

Well, I think that fuck you should be directed at your mother, because she said you'd say that. your mother because she said she said you'd say that yeah task one throw something into the bin on the other side of this fence you may not use ladders you may not touch the fence you must stay this side of the fence fastest wins your time starts now seemingly a very simple task that a lot of people made look very difficult i mean i think this is a deceptively hard task

i also want to query what you may not touch the fence means because i think there was a lot of fence touching going on i think kerry almost immediately touches it exactly with well if you're touching something with a drill because she uses a drill to Within the language of Taskmaster, I would assume touching means skin to thing contact. Okay. Then couldn't you, I mean, if you were being, not to be pedantic, but you could probably put gloves on. But how would that help you?

How would touching the fence help you? Could you not knock down the fence? You could. But you could knock down the fence with something else, couldn't you? And I don else couldn't you and i don't know why no one did i would have done that would you have done that as you well know jack i would have destroyed the fence do you think you'd have done better if you if if the fence was you probably would have done better if the fence wasn't there it's still very hard well i think the time it would have taken to knock down the fence because i would have i my brain would have gone it's funny to knock down the fence sure so do that but i think the time it would have taken because it looked funny to knock down the fence. Sure. So do that. But I think the time it would have taken,

because it looked like quite a new sturdy fence. Yeah, it did. I think that would have cost you time-wise. Well, you'd have spent 90 minutes trying to knock down the fence and then failed to knock down the fence and then buried the fence in the background. Buried the fence so it didn't come back and haunt me.

Yeah, but also I think there's actually an advantage from standing on something and throwing downwards as opposed to being on the same level as the bin that's true yeah it is true i mean i was thinking is there was a way to say technically you could you know you can't go past the fence but is that because there's a hedge on the other side i was wondering could you go through the hedge and yeah and and like like curve the fence. Like make, I don't know, this is like really eating into your time, but like make a smaller fence

that counts as part of that fence and then throw something over that fence. Yeah, I think this is one of those ones where you can massively overthink it and you should just do it. You should do it and not care what's happening. Everyone realises eventually, it says you're not allowed a ladder but you're allowed loads of other

stuff yeah you just need to get something else stand on it throw it in that's that's all it is um james doesn't seem to realize that for you know over 10 and 15 minutes quite a long time it was quite um it was very sweet watching him actually um because he was trying he wasn't messing around this is not a g a Gandhi's glasses situation. No, no, no, no. He wasn't trying to be funny. You can definitely see him try. It's when he kicks a football and hits the camera crew.

Yeah. God. He is trying really hard. Yeah. He's being genuine. There's real attempt there and real effort. Yeah. I feel bad for him in this one i love that moment where he he spies where the bin is from one side of the fence goes right the way to the other side and says it's in this area and he's off by a whole panel

it is out it's an outstanding bit of editing it's really good there's a lot of really good editing in this episode yeah there's a lot of really good editing in this episode. I mean, there's a lot of really good editing constantly. But yeah, it's not quite Nish kicking a basketball into a hoop levels of breakdown, but it's close. It's close. And he, well, because he doesn't do the same thing over and over again.

That's what Nish does. And then eventually he does come up with a version that he gets the table to stand on but that's so this i mean you mentioned sort of you alluded to the uh the duck task that i had getting the duck in the pond i think he has a similar thing uh to me there in that he tries one way and he probably realized he could stand on a table about five minutes in but is so stubborn that he wants to do it in the way that he's decided that he just keeps going with it and eventually gives up. It is interesting because I feel like, yeah, you're right.

There's a tunnel vision with you and with Nish in your ones where you can't see any other way of doing it. No, what I'm saying is I did see other ways of doing it. No. The big sort of bobbin i saw that that rolled out in front of me i thought maybe i could use that then why did you use it ed because i decided on a way i decided it was going to look nice and i thought i'd be a hero which is exactly what james felt in this task he thought if he couldn't see the bin and he threw it over then he'd look like an absolute hero but eventually ed he saw that he saw another way didn't he he did that was that was 19 minutes in and not 97 minutes in oh i'm so

sorry about that oh god i loved it um i love it now uh but it was one point obviously for james um carrie drills a hole in the fence like we say and i don't think that counts as touching i don't know i feel like this is another one of those things where there was probably a big debate in the studio and they were like, ah, this isn't interesting. I don't know how much it would help is the other thing. Like I know it helps with the panel. I guess it's the whole question of whether you knock, if you knock down the fence, does it help?

Well, she should have just got straight on Alex's shoulders. Yes. I find it odd that she sort of seemed to work that out but then it wasn't like a big realization she was like i could probably do that at some point couldn't i yeah i mean jess and rod around are the only ones really who do what they should do straight away away yeah because jess i mean jess does it too quickly she stands on the wheelie bin and then realizes she's not brought anything to throw that's really funny but as is the bit where she throws it and then slowly falls down the fence afterwards god that made me laugh

just her going oh no she's so funny in this episode jess i mean just like she's got so many brilliant moments yeah um and i think that's sometimes overshadowed in this episode by james's rant later on but but boy oh boy i can't wait to talk about the live task. Oh, yeah. Phil, this is an amazing bit of logic from Phil. He thought it might be the bin like 150 metres away. Like, what did he think the plan was there? Like, you would have to call someone to do it for you?

But there are tasks like that, I suppose, where they're just so impossible. Yeah, it's because he has that thing where it's like, oh, it's either that bin that's 150 metres away, or it's directly below the fence. And like, I will be able to do it in a second. And he can't see like there's a midpoint between those two things. Yeah, there might be a midpoint, Phil.

And then he realised, obviously, and he got up to the level where he needed to be and threw in what he remembered as being a satsuma. Very, very bad with a fruit this season, Phil. He is. Yeah.

He doesn't know his fruits. That was a terrible time of it. Rod goes for, as, as he repeats, I mean, what felt like eight or nine times a scattergun approach. He was so insistent that people recognize the scattergun approach. I should get more points because the scattergun approach, I think is a lie. I did a scattergun approach he was so insistent that people recognized the scattergun

approach i should get more points because the scattergun approach i think is a lot of gun and did you see there's a bit where where because he uses a scattergun approach and um he throws it and it hits i think it hits alex in the back of the head these pedals and alex i because i always thought that alex getting annoyed at contestants started with Bridget last series and series 13. I think you can see genuine irritation here. Yes. And this is a man who threw a javelin quite near to him. Exactly.

I can't work out if this is before or after the javelin thing. Either he's remembered the javelin thing and he's going, oh, God. Or maybe by the time the javelin thing happened, he accepted his fate. And he was like, I will will die at rod gilbert's hand i just have to accept this the scattergun approach is something that i personally also ended up using maybe inspired by rod in the get something into the bin yes yeah without but you the lid has to be closed when you when you throw the thing um it's just the simplest way of doing things it probably is it's the most i'd say it's the it's it's not route

one because route one is to i feel like is to do the carry thing of just getting on the shoulders or getting high up and then throwing one thing but it is probably the it's just like a the idea if you are walking past of just like a rain of terror of of stones being thrown at you is quite scary but then that's rod through and through so it makes sense yeah i think it's not necessarily the route one but it is it's the most efficient and it's the it's almost the least show boaty yes that's true whereas everything else you sort of feel like there's an act of aiming it well throwing loads of things at the bin is essentially what James did, but he did it over 19 minutes and Rod did it in 3 minutes 17.

That's true. Five points for Rod, four points for Phil, three points for Jess, two points for Kerry and one point for James. Phil tried to do something clever initially, right? Well, he spotted a bin way off in the distance. Yeah. Oh.

Which turned out to just be part of the golf course. Yeah. And so I thought, there's actually another bin, which is really close, it's right next to the... That's what I thought you'd presumed, there was a sneaky bin there. Yeah. There wasn't. So once I established there wasn't anything close, I jumped on the drawing table, saw it,

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and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. task two don't blink last the blink wins your time starts in 10 seconds now this is an amazing task and i'm fairly sure that i'm right in saying this was filmed as a tie break oh wow um that's interesting because we had one of, which was the lassoing task. But now and again, it should be a straightforward task.

Now and again, one person does something so insane they have to put it in as a normal task. I think that's great. If Rod hadn't have done that, this would have just been a tie-break. Sure. There's no necessarily reason.

And this is one of the few episodes where there are six tasks across the episode rather than five and you feel like it's almost a little bonus task yes exactly exactly um obviously the way to do it is brilliant the brilliant twist uh that alex's seven-year-old came up with this and of course what you do is close your eyes before the time starts and then just keep them shut for as long as you can manage um i didn't think of that when i first saw this i don't think of that either and i think about that that like hack quite a lot in terms of task i'm always thinking about the eye closing task as in like a way of getting around it through that because i think that's just genius it is

and then a seven-year-old came up with it amazing but maybe that's when you know we lose that we lose that as adults you know maybe we could have come up with that when we were seven but but then it was crushed out of us by school yeah no i was i was thick i would never would have thought of that um how did carrie only keep her eyes open for 11 seconds i don't know because she in the thing she looked like she was going quite well i would have thought she'd be brilliant at this because she she wants she wants she's committed to the show and she's intense and i would have thought she'd be brilliant at this because she she wants she wants it she's committed to the show and she's intense and I would have thought she'd she'd nail this yeah I I think

everyone in the everyone did I would say apart from everyone tried hard in this one whereas I think a lot of like other a lot of other tasks where it's like endurance based or like the sneezing task because this is quite similar to the sneezing task or the keep your tongue out task from series 13 um and sometimes you know you'll get people either like finding a workaround that doesn't quite work whereas i feel like everyone tried really hard to keep their eyes open but for some reason carrie was terrible at it yeah like i don't understand that at all she and she looks genuinely very annoyed when she fails um yeah which is great that's what we love about kerry she genuinely wants to win it's great oh so much and she will try in just the most basic way but does it really well phil even beats her and phil doesn't want to

win phil phil's technique is bonkers can i say keep moving keep that face moving because also he keeps his eyes really really really small to start with. And you're like, okay, this is a good tactic. And then suddenly he just goes, bah, bah, bah. It's so funny. I love him so much. What a great face. And James is the opposite. Just so still, like a corpse.

He looks like a serial killer from a netflix documentary yeah a very handsome one like very maybe maybe actually a drama based on a real thing exactly like um like you yes yeah yeah he looks like he's in the show you that's what i'll say yeah it's a pretty iconic thing i think i'd like a maybe like a limited edition photo print of james's face in that be a good album cover as well very good album cover yeah um he lost 12.4 seconds he narrowly beats phil um i've never tried it but i like to think i could beat james it's hard to know because once you know it's 12.4 seconds i reckon you can get past it i ain't going anywhere near jess and rod oh no jess's one sounds like jess's one being 77 seconds good lord yeah like that's a lot and she doesn't she doesn't

seem it doesn't seem to be an effort no it feels like if she whereas with rod it feels it's agony watching it just makes it look very easy yeah for that and she just sort of goes oh no okay i'm finished but that's a minute 17 it's incredible rod is in agony from the from the first second he starts by saying oh this is fucking agony it's amazing how quickly he's like this is terrible yeah and then he goes on to last seven minutes 10 the commitment oh the absolute commitment of the man is outstanding if if they had got him a staple gun do you think he would have used a staple gun uh i think he was joking about the staple gun but i mean i would joke about gaffer i'm not using gaffer tape to do that yeah this is what i was thinking as soon as they brought out the gaffer tape and he was actively annoyed that it didn't

help him i was like what god stop it's okay well because you need to go with strips going the other way right yeah it did it was just a bandana yeah you need to it's a league of gentlemen it yes or a clockwork orange yes yeah exactly exactly what it is very it's very clockwork orange if alex did it to himself that's true it's yeah it's absolutely horrific but god he deserves five i don't think there's a task in Taskmaster history where someone's deserved five points more. What I was going to say, I think Sophie in series 13 with the keeping the tongue out. Yes.

That's the only thing I would say comes close to this. Yeah. Because I mean, there's a sort of, there's an effluent issue there as well, isn't there? There's a humiliation sense of, God, what have I done to myself to get these points? But I mean, but the pain, the pain that rod would have been in oh grim grim i wonder whether that's why he keeps his eyes closed in the rest of the show so much there's a lot of really he really meditates

before to come up with ideas i remember speaking to him about about doing taskmaster and he enjoyed it i think but also was so worried before every task that he had to do the funniest most outrageous thing that that's why he spent so long thinking about it because he he's a very hard worker rod and is very committed to the product he puts out and wants it to be exactly right so i think being asked to do something suddenly is sort of a nightmare so that's why he had to think about it so hard um i mean like this like he i didn't start the time in 10 seconds because he clearly didn't read the end of the task yes he just kept thinking of things until he read the end of the task really it's a it's it's a commitment i suppose it's that

agony of having like so many different ideas and yeah working out which one's the one to go for he says later on like i'm just shutting out all the voices yeah which i think really speaks to a lot about how rod approaches the world also at that point he he doesn't say whether the voices are real voices in the outside world or the voices in his own mind oh they're in his own mind yes um it was one point for Kerry two points for Phil three points for James four points for Jess and a well-deserved

five points for Rod have you got anything like super glue or a staple gun or something like that gaffer tape might do it actually

yeah please get the gaffer tape on there it's killing. Yeah. God, please, get the gaffer tape on there. It's killing me. Like this? Yeah. I've got my eyes firmly open, don't you? I'm not sure that's gaffer tape at all. I think you've just given me a bandana.

I'm just going to have to tip the tears out. That's a bit better. Oh, that was good. Oh! The right eye is the worry, I think. Yeah. That's where most of the pain is. Did I blink then?

Did I? Is that a blink? I think it is. I think I don't even know what I'm doing anymore. Oh. Oh. Oh. Task three is the team task. Make the best extension to the Taskmaster house.

You have 30 minutes. Your time starts now. Quite a banal and bland task on paper, you'd say. You'd, I, I would struggle to find where the controversy is in this one. Yeah. Reading that. And, and I think how how jess and

kerry do like yeah you watching you be like what's that's sort of all you can do really isn't it it's lovely it's sort of it it's what it is it looks great also imagine if the boys had done something like that because they would have we would have just been watching two teams like build a little house it'd be it'd be grand designs it'd be like a small small version of grand designs i mean it's not even what the girls do is not grand oh no they do put effort into it and they're collaborating and they're sort of they're coming up with ideas together and they eat a banana in the house afterwards there's it's really nice there's a lot to be said about the girls attempt i would say because like the the phrase look at these massive spoons made me laugh

so hard when they think when they're trying to find things to build and the first thing carrie goes look at these massive spoons massive spoons yeah it is great i i don't think there's a way to do this task well enough that you would you would feel happy after watching it and i feel like the jess and carrie's version is the best version you could do yeah i think so given the time i think you can only really do that i mean they had 30 minutes which is all the more baffling as to why rod really sticks with his idea of finding a truck a lorry he keeps wanting to get a lorry this is great to watch as well because when james is doing tasks by himself a lot of the time and i think the fence one was was the exception that proves the rule a lot of

the time there is a level of persona still with james yes yes when rod starts talking he is so baffled by rod that he is just the most normal the most normal james i've seen ever i think those these are the precious moments in taskmaster when because i think taskmaster reveals who people are quite yeah and i feel like this you're right there is a level of this which is like oh he's he's actively getting really annoyed by rod when it's even the confusion at the beginning when rod's talking about getting a lorry. Yeah. James is like, what? We've got 30 minutes. Oh, yeah.

He just looks so baffled and sad. And when he doesn't, like Rod is, I don't know how long Rod would have been standing there with his hands like over his eyes. It looks like, it feels like it's about at least five minutes. Just no collaboration whatsoever. Just shuts his eyes. He's going to do rod's thing at rod's own pace exactly not mucking because what they'd started to do what phil and james started to do is basically exactly the same as the girls right yeah it looks it looks fine and if they'd all mucked in and all taken the time to do that they could have done a fun version of that and added some extra things that got them as many points to the girls or maybe even more exactly yeah to build his own extension and i

think in one of my favorite moments of this entire series phil just toddles over and without without phil even realizing it he's suddenly helping Rod. And then he's discovered by James. It's like a sitcom. It's absolutely incredible. It is so... It's so like a sitcom. And no one is... What I love about it is no one's trying to make it like a sitcom.

No one's like thinking, oh, this will be a fun bit. It is literally three people having a... I feel like three very funny people who are just in a nightmarish situation. And their personalities just meld perfectly and also don't. Yeah, because I forgot that Phil goes over to be like, he starts by going like, what is that?

As if he's doing a sort of James thing. And within seconds. Yeah, Jedi mind tricks into passing Rod some tape. Phil, this is the ultimate. I think I've said it on the podcast before. Phil for this whole series has very Winnie the Pooh energy. And I think this is the ultimate i think i've said it on the podcast before phil for this whole series has very winnie the pooh energy and i think this is the ultimate example of it just sort of blown by the wind just wandering around oh hey i'll pick this up a pot of honey i could help you with that ticket sure oh bless them yeah i love it it's so good and then obviously we've got to talk about

the garage situation the reveal that rod shuts the garage um is outstanding the first time i watched this i remember i was thinking that they weren't spending a lot of time on the boys and when james like did they have the garage for us as well? And you can just see the fury or like the cogs turning. And when he, yeah, it's that, it's the genuine, I think there have been, there are very few moments in the show when there's genuine rage. Yeah. And I think Desiree in series 12,

when she's dealing with Guz in the riddle task. Oh my God, yeah. That's genuine rage right there. She's trying not to let it show. You and David Baddiel, obviously. Yeah, Daisy May Cooper with Richard Herring. Exactly. And then, and then this. I think those are the big ones. Yeah, Daisy May Cooper with Richard Herring. Exactly. And then this.

I think those are the big ones. Yeah. I mean, what a moment. What a moment. The perfect stuff. Oh, the perfect stuff. Oh, yeah. I love it.

I love it so much. So if I was in James' position, I would be angry. I think we all would be. Sure. What would make me even more angry is Rod really laughing. He's really laughing in the studio he's dropped all pretense that he loves that he absolutely loves that he's done that there's no apology i think i would find it hard not to apologize if i was rod

but then you know you're not right i'm so far away from being rod yeah punk i could be punk rod sure you'd go like this and that would make james very angry uh it's i mean one point for uh for phil and rod phil takes basically has a point taken off him for being a turncoat which like he is now involved in rod's poster um that's interesting do you think it's for that or do you think that james got the extra point for being angry no i the reason i thought the points were justified was that james was genuinely trying to build an extension and sabotaged and his extension was sabotaged by rod because he was building his awful what it was whatever it was it was just you know

repurposing the garage and And Phil ended up helping Rod. So I think James gets given a point because he was trying to do the task. But maybe you're right. I hadn't thought about it. Interesting. I don't know. I mean, I think, I'm pretty sure

this is the first and maybe only time that there have been different points in a team task. Yeah. As in someone in a team gets an extra point, which is, I mean, just a credit to James being the saddest and angriest man in the world at that moment. I love it. So two points for James,

one point for Phil, one point for Rod. Something that's not mentioned in the studio as they come out of the VT because everyone's so angry about the garage is Phil saying, they're very charming, the Irish. Great.

Why does he say that? Because when James finds him helping Rod, he's like, why are you helping him? And Phil goes, they're very charming, the Irish. It's really funny. Oh, my God. That's amazing. And the girls, obviously, the girls' team,

four points for their structure. That's only missing the two litres of white cider. In seven series, we have never had a group break-up during a team test. He didn't want to join us. He named me foreman and then fucked off. We'd done tasks all day together by that point. That was our final one. Yep.

And I don't know how you've been friends with him for so long. I didn't know until we watched that that at one point he opened the garage, saw it and then did that. Like, that blows my mind more than anything else. I thought on the day, oh, it's bad enough that he's done that and put the cardboard on and gone, this is an extension, and then just kind of looked at us like, what the fuck are you going to do about that?

And then got up in the house. I didn't know he'd also gone, oh, the perfect stuff. And then done that task four make the best christmas cracker you have 10 minutes to order your materials and 20 minutes to make your christmas cracker your time starts now um so this is the best christmas cracker a lot of people seem to think best means biggest yeah yeah i was interested by this decision as well because you can't this is this is a so they call these launch tasks where you open it first and then you have this time to order the materials that's a launch and then you'd come

back later in the day to do the task because obviously they've got to go off and get all the materials yeah this isn't go around the house and find what you can get to make the christmas cracker interesting so why kerry uses a drain pipe i have no idea because they she would have got that from the house why didn't she order stuff to make an actual cracker and same with rod he's he uses like drain pipes or something i think kerry uses a drain pipe in three out of the four film tasks in this episode. It is baffling. So, hang on. She tries to throw one in the bin, doesn't she? She tries to throw one in the bin, and then she doesn't use it in the blinking

task, and then in the task three, in the extension, she's like, do we need guttering? Holding up the drainpipe again. And then in this one she uses a cracker. And these can't have been on the same day because the team day is different. It makes me want to go back through the series

and work out how many times she's used the drainpipe or like, she's just obsessed with it. Jack, I know that's not a joke. You have to do that now. I know, I know, I know. I'll do it i'll send to you by the time this episode goes out don't worry that is so funny that's so funny imagine if she uses it in like 80 of the tasks she somehow uses a drain pipe what she used to make her big circle um oh maybe she had because it's it's snowing isn't it so maybe she does use

a drain pipe oh my god it's like an um it might be the drain pipe she uses you know it probably is okay we'll work out percentage film tasks in the house how many times does she use a drain pipe it's almost amazing she doesn't try and keep her eyes open with a drain pipe in the blinking task It's almost amazing she doesn't try and keep her eyes open with a drain pipe in the blinking task. Let's talk about these crackers. Because, yeah, I think it's weird that, like, I mean, Rod and Kerry go with big crackers, right? Yeah. But I guess you've got to go big if you want to put big things in there.

That's probably the thinking behind it. Yeah. James manages to have a sort of a reasonable size cracker and foot put a full christmas dinner and a bottle of wine a huge bottle of wine a massive bottle of wine massive bottle of wine it looks ridiculous that one i will say yes absolutely ridiculous and i love the hat which he clearly decided when it came in the moment in the moment and that's also your hat um sticks because of the gravy another great quote from this episode

there are a lot in this episode the gravy helps it stick the gravy helps it stick there are lots of episode titles you could have in this episode yes

if it wasn't for the the perfect stuff which is the perfect stuff the perfect stuff is a perfect episode title but later on I loved um

uh what's Santa's favourite number 12s I think 12s would have made a perfect episode title but later on i loved um uh what's santa's favorite number 12s i think 12s would have made a great episode title god i love that and it's alex acting the joke out yeah and saying so so when someone says to santa what's your favorite number he says 12s even 12 would have been a better joke. You're right, 12th. I hadn't really... Then I need to be like, what's your favourite number?

What's your favourite position? That sounds worse, actually. Yeah, yeah. Don't like that one. Although I think you actually verbalised something that I wasn't able to work out. I think Phil's is the best because it looks like a cracker. It's amazing that he's able to put all that stuff in

there and i thought a full christmas dinner does actually come out yeah and there's the crown separate yes but i appreciated that it was a luxury crown exactly yeah and you sometimes get those things like like like sellotape to things you'll get extra presents or prizes to crack but i do think that james should have got five points as well because it is the same concept there was more dinner in there yeah and there was the bottle of wine so it was like the full thing yeah i i agree i agree well i think it maybe should have been five four because i thought something very satisfying about the way that you pop open the cracker there's a satisfying pop which isn't for anyone

else satisfying pop and then you just dip for anyone else. Satisfying pop, and then you just tip it out. There's your dinner. That seems to me, that seems fractionally better than huge cracker Christmas dinner on the floor. Why did no one,

when they had 10 minutes to order their materials, order Christmas crackers and take the banger bit out? Oh, that's interesting. I don't know. Instead of using a drain pipe that in no way opens whatsoever open and then throwing bangers on the floor and stuff or as rod did saying bang saying that that was weak there were a lot of weak pops in this one i'd say yeah weak pops i i think i personally would

have ordered a pack of 12 christmas crackers i, I guess it depends what time of year it was filmed. And then used all of the cardboard strips in my cracker. Yes, and then you get a big massive explosion. And then you get a big crack at least, yeah. Because I think that's a huge part of a Christmas cracker. It's not really about the stuff that's in the inside. It's the pulling. You want a good pull motion, really.

It's the crack. It's not called an er maybe maybe then yeah maybe it's four points for james and five points for phil but i feel like we could have we could have divided the others as well i wonder whether the fact that this was a bad day was getting to greg at this point and because there was an extra task he was like let's get through this there's some real lazy scoring in this episode it feels like just just a lot of just ah ah, that, fine. You get one. Everyone else gets two.

Sure, let's go on. It feels like Kerry's should be one point. Yeah, I think there needs to be a separation for Kerry because it's also not the best idea because I wouldn't say the reason that I find crackers annoying is that all the items inside them are find crackers annoying is that all the items inside them are small is that all the items inside them are kind of terrible yeah so like big cards

i'm not like great huge cards in this huge cracker it just it doesn't appeal to me no no what you need is higher value items or something weird like having the whole christmas dinner in there yeah i liked and i don't think i don't think uh jess made a big enough thing of it i like stealing alex's credit card and putting it in there yeah that seemed like the way to go you want i think you want items from alex's life yes that you stuff inside there so he thinks he's lost the way to pitch it would be say you thought you'd lost your credit card there it is and it's in the cracker so that's an amazing feeling isn't it when you think you've lost something important and then you find it again i feel like i'd spend if i was really me and i and i'd spend all of

christmas day incredibly stressed until until we had christmas dinner and then my credit card would fall out and i'd just be confused more than happy well maybe that's why it was only three points um rod just goes was this an early one for rod because this occasionally rod goes pretty route one with i'm going to make everything about making fun of how big greg is yeah and this was one of those i think i really i don't know why though i really liked the ear uh the cotton buds they they were very satisfying to me could you imagine could you imagine could you imagine someone with a massive ear using that yeah and i think that's what i want and i think the visual of that was like oh that's good that that should that should get more credit but then

what would you if a massive bit of wax came out how would you feel about that i'd be very upset yeah well i'd instantly regret what I'd done, sure, yeah. It was three points for all of them apart from Phil. Rod, Jess, Kerry and James all got three points and five points for Phil's Christmas dinner

plus the twelves joke. Why does Santa have three gardens? I don't know. Why does Santa have three gardens? None of your business. And you wear it as a hat. Pardon? You wear this as a hat as well.

What is Santa's favourite number? I don't know. What is Santa's favourite number? 12s. 12s. 12s, because there's Ls in it. Yeah. So when people say, what's your favourite number, Santa, he says 12s.

Yeah, just put it on your head. There you go. Yeah. The gravy makes it stick live task I mean we don't normally spend a lot of time talking about the live task but I think we'll spend a little bit more time talking about this walk over and hit that drum in exactly 9.58 seconds also there are two bonus points for the person with the most magnificent walk

now let's I mean let's just talk about Jess falling off the stage of course yep good 9.58 seconds. Also, there are two bonus points for the person with the most magnificent walk. Now, let's just talk about Jess falling off the stage. Of course. Yep, good. It's perfect. It's a perfect bit of comedy. It's perfect because it's set up by Kerry. Yep.

Who says, what if we fall off the stage? Amazing response from Alex. You won't be blindfolded when you're walking. Everyone laughs. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I think that's what you look for in comedy.'re like that's a setup that's also a joke yes so you can that's perfect no it's not obvious that that's what's going to happen later yeah and then i don't know what i mean and it's the glee with which she attacks her walk really smiling and then goes down and rolls off i don't know what happens jacks isn't she doing

like so that so there i think there are three stages to it i think you've got the first stage where she's kind of doing like the weird leg movement and then there's a bit where she's like oh i'm gonna fall off which is perfect and everyone's like this is great i'm having a great time no no peril here then she does a twirl like several times and then that's where things go wrong loses the balance on the twirl right balance on the twirl and then she falls off the side that she said she was like that she was pretending to fall off on that's what i love about it she's gone wouldn't it be weird and ridiculous if I fell off here? Two seconds later, I've fallen off. It does that. It reminds me a bit of the, in series 10 with the catapult, with Johnny Vegas.

Yes. When he's like, oh, if you had an accident at your work, immediately falls off and has an accident. Off the ladder. Again, it's the perfect setup. Oh, it's so great. And then the added thing for me, for the whole image, is how serious it suddenly sounds and Greg runs over.

And the fact that the other four all have blind spots on, so they have no idea what's happening. And James puts his arms out to try and catch her. I don't know what's going on there. He has a moment of just going, oh, oh. But they don't know until she sits back down. And you just hear James go, please tell me you fell off.

I mean, it's wonderful. It's the best moment of the show, of this episode. I almost felt bad for everyone else who came after because you're like, what are you going to do? Those are hard anyway, when everyone's got to do something. Especially if you're coming basically third, fourth or fifth. Because we had to do that on Champion of Champions

where you're doing the suitcase and doing a little walk across. And everyone has to think of something new to do. You have to try and top it. And you can't top what Jess did. Exactly. And I think there's no... Yeah, it's difficult. I assumed they would restart that for her.

The fact that she then just has to get up on the stage and hit the drum and it's 27 seconds feels harsh. 27 seconds, by the way, is short, I will say. Yeah, for falling off. There's a lot of business before that. Then she falls off, then she gets back up on stage and hits the drum. Perfect.

Like, I think another show would have reset and you'd just pretend it didn't happen but i think they probably would have done if she'd hung around any longer but i think she just wanted to get up and get on with it yeah um she just looks incredibly embarrassed she does the thing that i do when i fall over to immediately get up and go i'm fine i'm absolutely fine guys but look it's a legendary moment the stage is now forever called the nappet so yeah um all good efforts from everyone really i mean in terms of the walks phil carrie james rod all good magnificent walks timing wise phil and carrie really i don't really far off you can kerry's

literally the first thing you're taught about counting actual seconds is put another word in between right yeah she just goes for it she's one two three four it's like no that's not gonna work it's elephant you say elephant in between yeah i i feel like because of the voice and because she thought the voice would add a bit of character she thought maybe that would slow it down anyway but no very funny very funny uh rod of course has to top it um shoes on the hands wheelbarrow motion with alex but also then comes incredibly close yeah now weird this is going to be controversial jack jess was given two extra points for most magnificent walk that wasn't a magnificent walk she fell over those two points become sympathy points rod should have been given the two extra points rod should have got seven points so rod should have got seven

points and jess should have got one point one point yeah i think jess deserved something for falling off for falling off sure why because of the theumult and pain that she felt i don't think i don't think you can i also don't think i think greg is very good at knowing when to play the the tyrant and when to play the the or when to be a human and i think here he's aware that if i don't give this person two points like the vibe's gonna change. No, because when he dangled that, when he dangled that he might not give her the points, there is a reaction in the studio that makes me suggest they would have absolutely loved it

if he'd taken those points away. I don't know. Oh, I don't know. See, okay, by the letter of the law, sure. Yes, that's what I'm going by. If you want an easy life, which I think as Greg has proven this episode, he definitely does,

then I think he does the right thing. I don't know. You're right. It would have been an iconic moment anyway. Would it have been more iconic if the points hadn't been given to him? No, I don't think it would have been more iconic. I think he probably did the right thing,

but by the letter of the law, it should have been Rod. It may have changed the rankings if Rod had gotten it so you know not to be yeah i'm gonna check would it have probably not probably not enough certainly no um the final scores in this episode it's a rod victory anyway uh 21 points uh jess gets 18 um james and phil 15 points carrie 14 points terrible episode for carrie not a good episode no it knocks it down to second place in the series at this point and

Jess is in the lead and James and Phil sort of hovering around the book I mean Phil's so rock bottom Phil's gone Phil's really gone at this point Phil's gone Phil's now sarcastically cheering when his points are announced yeah well they they say wow

you've gotten to triple when you say this person's gotten to triple point triple scores and everyone cheers yeah oh no yeah it's when the joke is this person's got 87 points and the studio audience like wow because they've got no idea what's good at this point they go and with 150 points oh no so Jack, thank you very much for coming back on the one and only true official Taskmaster podcast. How dare you? It's only the third how dare you. That's a record for me.

That's pretty good. Actually, there was a long gap between the three. Yes. Of course, I always ask our guests to rate their experience on the Taskmaster podcast between one and five points in the style of the Taskmaster. Have you enjoyed yourself this time, Jack? I've had a lovely time. I interrupted you there. Maybe I should take a point off for

that. You take a point off your experience for you interrupting me. That doesn't seem fair. I felt horrible at that moment. I've had a five star time this whole time, but then as soon as I started talking over you, I was like, oh, it's gone down to one so maybe it averages out three yes go with three all right thank you so much jack of course you must all go and listen to taskmaster the people's podcast with jack and lou it is an excellent lesson i i personally listen to it while i'm doing a bit of cooking i listen to your podcast while I do a bit of dog walking. Oh, nice.

I never cook, by the way. But thank you. No, I do. I do a lot of cooking. The sizzle of onions and your dulcet tones are all I need. Jack, thank you very much. We will see you again soon. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, there we go. Lovely chat with Jack. Thanks very much for coming on jack uh do go and listen

to the people's podcast uh the the other podcast the runt of the litter uh and we will see you again next week to talk about series seven episode eight and we have another special guest we have nish kumar the brilliant nish k from series five, of course, and everything else he's done. My best man, for example. It's going to be a fun chat because there's personally nothing I like more than talking to Nish about James Acaster. There's going to be a lot of sort of gentle bullying going on, I think. But look forward to that. If you've got any questions, of course, Taskmasterpodcast at gmail.com.

Get them over. Any questions, of course, taskmasterpodcast.gmail.com, get them over. Any questions about this series, another series, if there's any chat about series 14, who you think might win, who you think is going to be great, who's going to be terrible, get that over as well. But thank you very much for listening. We will see you next week. Bye-bye. Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations,

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