Taylor Lorenz’s Power User - Elon Musk's God Complex
Episode Date: December 24, 2025SUPPORT ME ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/c/taylorlorenz Buy a subscription to my Tech and Online Culture newsletter, User Magazine to support my work!!!! 🙏 https://www.userma...g.co As Elon Musk's influence has grown, so too has a darker, more troubling side of his persona: his rampant egomania.Faiz Siddiqui is a former colleague of mine at The Washington Post and he's the author of the new book Hubris Maximus: The Shattering of Elon Musk.In this episode of Power User we break down exactly how Musk's narcissism has evolved throughout his career, and the key moments that reveal just how deeply Elon's self-obsession has shaped his life and the future he claims to build. (This episode originally ran in June)***** Buy a subscription to my Tech and Online Culture newsletter, User Magazine to support my work!! 🙏 https://www.usermag.co *****FOLLOW ME:https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz3.0 https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz https://bsky.app/profile/taylorlorenz.bsky.social
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But Elon is so fixated on this idea that you don't understand.
This is going to be the biggest company ever.
I would rather commit Sepaku than fail.
Elon Musk was once seen as a visionary, a bold disruptor shaping the future of technology and human existence.
But as his influence has grown, so too has a darker, more troubling side of his persona.
What many first took as eccentric confidence has since been revealed as rampant egomania.
Fes Siddiqui is a former colleague of mine at The Washington Post, and he's the author of
a new book called Hubris Maximus, The Shattering of Elon Musk. He's joining me today to break down
exactly how Musk's narcissism has evolved and the key moments that reveal just how deeply his self-obsession
has shaped his career and the future that he claims to build. Fas, welcome to Power User.
It's great to be here. Thank you for having me. So I feel like we all know that Elon Musk is obsessed
with himself, but it seems like he's gotten more and more obsessed with himself over the years.
You just wrote this book that really charts his business journey and kind of his leadership
style over time, which I think is informed by this egoism, I guess.
When you look back at Elon Musk's career, when did you first start to see the inkling of this
kind of egomania?
So I write in the book, around 2013, a Tesla official asks Musk about this ambition of his
to go to Mars.
And the question on the official's mind is humanity is going to become so much more
advanced in coming decades, coming centuries or millennia.
Why do we need to go to?
Mars right now. And what this official quickly learns is that it's not about the necessity to
go to Mars right now. Musk wants to be the one to take us there. And that's a really
revelatory moment into Elon Musk's mindset. Got it. So it's not like he's obsessed with going to
Mars because he thinks this is humanity's future. And 2013, they developed some sort of amazing
technology that was going to make it possible for the first time or anything. It's really about
him being the one to go down in history as colonizing Mars. Absolutely. And there can be a little bit of
both. The ambition can be worthwhile, but Musk needs to be the one to help humanity achieve the goal.
It seems like he centers himself a lot, obviously, in his own companies. Like he has to be the CEO of
every company, it seems like, that he's involved with. But then there's also like these other
somewhat smaller events. I'm thinking of 2018 with the Thai boys.
caves. Can you explain what happened there? Obviously, there's this horrific instance of these boys
becoming trapped in this cave in Thailand. And nobody at that moment is looking to Elon Musk,
who heads a rocket company and who heads electric vehicle company to save these boys. It's really
Musk inserting himself into the conversation in offering up a solution that nobody was really asking for.
And what was the solution that he was proposing? The solution he was. The solution he was.
he was proposing in this case was a kid-sized submarine designed by those who work for his companies.
And this was a rescue that was very meticulous through a lot of tight spaces, extremely dangerous,
treacherous, required trained divers and experts. Yeah, it seems nonsensical. And it seems like a way to also
kind of flex his technical prowess, right? He sort of wanted to show people that he is this,
like, technical genius, right, that could solve these tough problems. And Musk's frustration at not
being a knowledge to be the genius sort of manifests in Musk lashing out at somebody who's actually
involved in the rescue and baselessly smearing that person as a pedo guy. When Musk's crew ultimately
arrives in Thailand and is not useful to the mission, that's when you see Musk start to get
really agitated and smear this man. I mean, this is when I certainly started to notice him
losing it a little bit and being a little bit crazy online. Like it seems like he was getting more
addicted to Twitter and that validation cycle and kind of needing validation, not just seemingly
from his work endeavors, but also through like the public, like the public seeing him as this
savior. And he was very publicly not seen as a savior in that situation. Just a couple years later,
the COVID pandemic hits. And I feel like you see Elon again try to center himself very
quickly, right? Before coronavirus had become widespread in the United States, Musk started commentating on it.
started to express beliefs. He indicates that he thinks COVID cases will be out or near zero by
April, that kids are basically immune, all kinds of unscientific thoughts. And then he gives one of
these trademark offers. Musk told people that Tesla was willing to build ventilators, which was a very
massive need at the time. And so Tesla would leverage its manufacturing expertise to build ventilators.
Did Tesla actually have any experience in building ventilators or even have the necessary equipment to do
that type of thing? Tesla was not a medical device company, and what they deliver ultimately falls
far short of the need. Who did they even deliver these ventilators to? Tesla ultimately built a
prototype of a ventilator, which was never put into medical use, and what Musk delivered to hospitals
were CPAP and bi-pat machines, sleep apnea devices, which were a partial need, but which were not at the
heart of the needs during the height of the coronavirus pandemic. So it seems like this is another time
where, again, Elon Musk has these sort of visions of grandeur, right? He thinks that he can come in and
save the day. He doesn't have a lot of respect for people who actually have knowledge and authority
in certain places. It sounds like this is the story of himself with so many companies. I think he wrote
in the book in 2021, Elon Musk calls himself the techno king of Tesla instead of CEO. And he did it on some
certain date. He did this on March 15th, the Ides of March, which anyone familiar with
Julius Caesar knows as a doomed date. He was not content to have a title that was like an
NPC title. This is a big theme for Elon. He does not want to be sort of this generic character,
the non-player character. So he's the Techno King, you know? He's not the CEO. Well, he wants to be the
star. It's not even like he wants to be a supporting character, an NPC or a side character. It's like
he has to be the main character in all of his things. And there's a hubris to it. I mean,
you write a lot about obviously the takeover of Twitter and so much of what you're saying of these
previous events ultimately show his strategy in Twitter. There's this famous tweet that's like
Elon Musk is going to basically realize over and over again by making mistakes that the original
owners of Twitter weren't like evil, woke people that were censoring everyone, but everything that
they did was for a good business reason. And I feel like that's what we've seen. He takes over the company.
He tries to roll back all of these things, content moderation, whatever. And now,
he's in the business of content moderating, right? He's doing a lot of the things that he
lambasted Twitter executives for doing just a couple of years ago. And if you look at the blunder
that ultimately led Musta have to step aside as head of Twitter, he limited sharing of outside
content on the platform, which just flies in the face of what Twitter was about, which was an
information sharing platform, this idea that you're going to ban people from sharing links to their
Instagrams, Twitter users were not having it. But this is an instance of Musk overruling.
the guiding philosophy of the platform and deciding that he knows what's best.
Shortly after he took over Twitter, he also insisted on himself being inserted into the feed more, right?
Like it became, I feel like, an Elon feed where suddenly engineers were being forced to
manually put his tweets into people's feeds, right?
Yeah. I mean, if you don't want to call it hubris or megalomania or a hero complex or a
god complex, call it main character syndrome. And Musk was going to make himself the main character
whether you liked it or not.
I feel like you see this with so many Silicon Valley billionaires.
And when you look at the landscape of Silicon Valley,
it's full of so many main characters,
each kind of in their own little fiefdoms.
We've seen an explosion of interest in AI,
especially since OpenAI,
released ChatchipT in 2022, widely.
And it seems like Sam Altman is undeniably the main character of AI.
And that seems to bother Elon.
So it's unsurprising that Groch hits the scene shortly after this.
I read about in the book,
about how Elon launches autonomy and Tesla's in this big bet on full self-driving shortly after
the ride-hailing companies embrace autonomy as part of their IPO ambitions. And you see the same
pattern with AI. The large language models hit the scene. And then in the snap of a finger,
you have Grock now hitting the scene. He can't handle not being the center of attention when there's
a big tech bet that's in the news. It's not even just him trying to be the center of the media
cycle, which I totally agree he is. Like he wants to be at the forefront of every single hype cycle.
and be the main guy. But also, he has this kind of like God complex about AI, right? So this idea of
playing God is not entirely foreign to what Musk does. He's applied similar thinking to Tesla
autopilot where he believes that at the moment where autonomy is safer, it's a moral imperative
to roll it out. The science is not overwhelming that it's safer than human driving. Tesla has
numbers that it trots out. So when Musk's decides we're at that moment, he is taking on a
godlike role in society because he's the person who has the tool and the unique ability to
unleash it. And then you also see him building these humanoid robots where it seems like he wants
to kind of rule this army of robot humans. Similar to Musk's thinking on AGI, he believes that an army
of humanoid robots could go rogue and overpower humanity. So he's talked about when Tesla made this
bet on building humanoid robots, he wants to build them to be nice and to be obedient and
ultimately serve humanity rather than overpowering it. He specifically said it's a robot that
you could take yourself as opposed to one that would dominate and ultimately destroy you.
I think that's very funny because if you're scared of a robot army going rogue, the first step in that
disastrous series of events would be to build a robot army, which is now what he's doing and being
like, no, this one won't go rogue.
This is what Musk has managed to sell his investors on.
When we think more about him kind of centering himself, I think also of the most recent election
and people saying President Elon and how he's kind of the shadow president.
And it seems like not only did he want to be central to the election and claim that he was
sort of responsible for the victory of Trump.
And I think he probably was, at least in large part, right, given the amount of money
in the way that he leveraged his platform to promote Trump messaging.
But he also wants to have this crucial role in the administration, right?
he sort of immediately sets himself up where he's not president, he can't be president,
where you get this vibe where he's kind of once again trying to be the main guy.
Musk believes that society is hamstrung and strangled basically by regulations and by what he is
called the woke mind virus. Again, you have to take him out his word here or accept that maybe
he's trying to sell people on the idea that these things are getting in the way of humanity's
ambitions, and he has to be the one to free humanity from that stranglehold.
Of course, that's really just about, like, getting tax breaks, right, and firing regulators
for his own business.
Trump takes power, and Musk assumes this godlike role. He can decide or ultimately delete
entire agencies, so he can decide on the fortunes of entire agencies or delete them, if he wishes.
And Musk was the person who was Trump's largest donor, Republican's largest donor, he was the
person who made this possible. So how is that going to be rewarded other than with a massive amount
of power that is unprecedented for an unelected official? But it goes back to this like delusions
of grandeur, right? It's hubris. It's I ran a car company successfully and a social network,
not successfully. And so I should be the one to come in and mandate all these changes in government.
Musk once again centers himself. He believes that he is uniquely equipped to carry out this wish of
his of reining in the federal government. And he doesn't need to have the relevant expertise.
And that belief is egged on by hordes of investors and fans. And obviously, Elon has millions
of followers and people that kind of hang on his every move. And I feel like even the media
themselves kind of like bed his delusions for a really long time. What role do you think the public
internet has played in building up these delusions of grandeur in Musk said?
Whenever Musk needs to feel validated in a decision that might be unpopular everywhere else in society,
the fans on X are backing him.
And we saw this play out when Musk entered into government.
Some of Doge's initial work was highly controversial and was frankly unrelated to the agenda of the Trump administration,
regardless of how people might have felt about that agenda.
And yet, Musk was cheered as a hero and somebody with this unblowning,
business track record. It's somebody who, if anybody could rein in the government, it would be
Musk. But some people were ultimately disappointed. He said he was going to cut a trillion dollars,
and he got to $150 billion. And now he's stepping back from Doge. It seems like also framing
himself as this singular leader and this sort of cult of personality has also allowed him to
shield himself from a lot of accountability over the years as well. Absolutely. I mean, when there are
attempts to scrutinize Musk, whether it's in the press or whether it's among regulators,
there's a tremendous amount of pressure put on people, people who've had to flee in fear of their
lives for daring to say something negative or even with the appearance of negativity about Elon Musk.
So there are instances of auto safety investigators who found themselves facing threats to their
safety for daring to look into Tesla. And so extract that and think about, you know,
Musk is now in power. And
where do you get an environment of the expected scrutiny of a public official when there's so much
pressure on people to just shut up and accept that he is a great man?
How do you think also Musk self-mythologizing so much and building himself up into this figure,
this like godlike figure, I guess, in tech, has affected other tech leaders in the landscape
because I feel like this brain rot that he has is spreading.
I think this next crop of tech leaders faces an impossible task of trying to measure up to Elon.
place in society. And I think that's why you get a maybe deeply flawed Sam Altman,
or you get a serious crash in the case of Sam Bankman-Fried, or you get extreme disappointment
with Mark Zuckerberg. You get the entire picture of who these tech leaders are. But you also
get some occasional wonkiness. I'm going to go back to Zuckerberg. You get the cool Gen Z Mark
Zuckerberg. Where did that come from? I don't think you get that without Elon. Sam Bankman-Fried
is such a good comparison because he also kind of positioned himself as this force for good, right,
that was solving humanity's problems. And I feel like that's so common now with these younger tech
leaders that I guess have grown up in like the post-Musk world where they just self-mythologize very early.
Absolutely. I don't think the environment would be conducive to that without the myth of Elon.
Do you think that Elon ever exposes himself to criticism? It seems like he has the thinnest skin possible.
I think he does everything in his power to avoid that unpredictable situation where somebody might ask him a tough question.
The example that I think of a lot is when he was booed at the Dave Chappelle show in San Francisco,
the city where he had laid off so many workers from Twitter.
This was around 2023.
Musk is getting just like vigorously booed and he is facing this very public rejection.
And he turns to Dave Chappelle kind of like a deer in the headlights.
And he's like, Dave, what do I say?
He does not like to expose himself to that unpredictability.
There was that great piece recently that cataloged what happened to people who criticized him on Twitter.
These are people on the right, including Laura Lumer, right?
Like what happened to their accounts and you just see it drop off a cliff where certainly my account was affected as well, where I'm rate limited and all this stuff.
But like if you criticize him, he tries to de-platform you.
Like it seems like he cannot take any sort of discourse.
Try to think about the last time you saw Musk sit down with a journalist who was prepared to grill him with tough questions.
Or think about the fact that he bought Twitter under pressure, you know, to be deposed in that
Twitter case. He's not somebody who wants to be in any way subject to critical questioning.
Where do you think this goes for him? Do you think there will ever be a crash and burn?
Did you learn anything in your book that might give us a clue as to how all of this ends?
So the term crash out comes to mind. And will there be an Elon crash out? I don't have a direct answer to
that question, but I can tell you what the cycle is. There is generally a crash out that precedes
a moment of quiet and deep discomfort and retooling where Elon decides what his next bet is.
We've seen this repeatedly. The most recent one that comes to mind is after he was rejected
as, you know, should he stay on his Twitter CEO? Twitter users overwhelmingly said no. And it was
kind of hard to get Elon's every thought out of him at that moment. And then we saw him.
him retool and get himself involved in electoral politics. Well, this is another moment where the American
people have expressed a deep dissatisfaction with his role in government. And Elon has to return
his attention to Tesla, which is under a tremendous amount of pressure. What does that retooling look like?
Does he become even bigger and more powerful? Well, the last few cycles have produced a bigger,
more powerful Elon. And the question now is, how do you even get more powerful than he has just been?
It seems like he, no matter what, he can't just, as they say, build in silence, grind in silence.
I can't remember what the kids say.
But it makes me think of that quote that he just gave when he's leaving Doge, where he compared himself to Buddha.
Yeah. Elon asked, is Buddha needed for Buddhism?
Was it not stronger after he passed away?
This was Elon's way of encapsulating Doge's role in society without Elon necessarily in charge.
But it's also a glimpse into the mindset of.
Elon, that he is driving an entire theology, I suppose, or at least philosophy of how government
should be run. But it also tells us how Elon sees himself. Yeah. There's one more story from your book,
I think, from the early days that seems to be really relevant of when he kind of compares himself
to Alexander the Great, right? So Elon was working to build his first startup, Zip 2. He's in Silicon
Valley, top investor in the company is grabbing lunch with their precocious founder to
Check in with Elon on how it's going and digitizing the yellow pages.
And Elon, rather than having sort of a mundane company update, starts getting frustrated with the line of questioning.
Because to Elon, it's kind of narrow-minded.
Elon has bigger visions, he says.
And the investor is kind of taken aback by this.
Elon ultimately turns him and says, you don't understand.
I'm the reincarnation of the spirit of Alexander the Great.
And the investor, like you, Taylor, is kind of like, what?
This was a conversation about getting addresses and phone numbers for our digital iteration of the
yellow pages. But Elon is so fixated on this idea that you don't understand. This is going to be the
biggest company ever. I would rather commit Sepaku than fail. Elon ultimately says. And this is
another just glimpse into how he saw himself even from the earliest days of his rise. Wow. Well,
Bez, thank you so much for joining me. Tell me where people can get your book and follow
your work. So you can get my book, I think wherever books are sold, definitely check out your local
bookstore, check out Barnes & Noble. Check out your local library. It's hubris maximus, the shattering of Elon Musk.
Bez, thank you so much for joining. Thank you so much for having me. All right, that's it for this week's
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