Taylor Lorenz’s Power User - The MrBeast of OnlyFans on Skibidi Toilet Porn and Elon Musk

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

If you’ve spent enough time online, you have undeniably encountered the work of John Kilo. John is a 28 year old OnlyFans creator in Portland, and he has become a fixture on meme accounts and viral subreddits. He's part porn star, part performance artist, part cultural critic and shitposter. He has created Skibidi Toilet porn, cosplayed a Trump supporter while having sex with a fleshlight mounted to an AR-15, made corn parodies of Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk, had s*x with every item on the Taco Bell menu, the Pizza Hut menu, and even ranked the most f'able pastas. He is also a brilliant artist, filmmaker, and kind of an internet and media prophet. He joined me to talk about YouTubifying porn, how virality is reshaping the OnlyFans landscape, leveraging meme culture, and creating art in the age of algorithms. SUPPORT ME ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/c/taylorlorenzBuy a subscription to my Tech and Online Culture newsletter, User Magazine to support my work!!!! 🙏 https://www.usermag.co Follow me:https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz3.0 https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz

I don't know if you've ever tried to have sex with the toilet, but it is difficult because you're basically in like a deep lunge the entire time. It's a hard thing and also cramming all of your cameras in the bathroom. If you spend enough time online, you've undeniably encountered the work of John Kylo. John is a 28-year-old only fans creator in Portland, and he's become a fixture on meme accounts and viral subreddits. He's part part-performance star, part performance artists,

part cultural critic and shit poster. He's created skibbitty toilet porn, cosplayed as a Trump supporter while having sex with a fleshlight, mounted to an AR-15, made porpoorities of Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk, had sex with every item on the Taco Bell menu, and the pizza menu, and even ranked the most funable pastas. He's also a brilliant artist, filmmaker, and kind of an internet and media profit. Today, he joins me to talk about YouTubeifying porn, how virality is reshaping the only fans' landscape, leveraging meme culture, and creating art in the age of algorithms. Hi, John. Welcome to Power User. Hi there. Thanks for having me. So I first became aware of you,

from memes. I started to see your face on all of these meme accounts and these wild situations. So can you tell me a little bit about how your career got started? I started starting. I started stripping here in Portland, Oregon. That's where I'm from. And in 2018, back in April of 2018, I started out as just as just a dancer. We have a ton of strip clubs here. Only two male show clubs, but I was able to find out of one of them. I think you were pretty early to the only fans boom. Can you tell me when you launched on that platform and what made you get started? Yeah, actually, I did launch pre-Covin. It was 2019 October, so, you know, a good, like, four to five months before, like, it was, like, the big, big boom for a lot of OnlyFans creators.

But I had, like, you know, kind of an internet presence. I had a little bit of an Instagram presence for it. That's, like, how all the dancers had in the PDX. And I was like, oh, everyone's selling nudes, so I should probably get on that. And I did. And then I'm like, well, I kind of want, like, a little hub for my content to be at. And people, like, you know, made some requests, made some, you know, customs and stuff. or they had some custom requests.

So I was started just posting it to OnlyFans. It's kind of like a way to make a little extra money and kind of express creativity a little bit. When COVID hit, I feel like that's when OnlyFand really took off. And I did a story about, you know, some of the earliest months of the pandemic, what a boon that was for OnlyFans creators. Did you see that bump as well? Like how did 2020 affect your business? Yeah, I mean, definitely, yeah, because I mean, obviously we couldn't do, we couldn't go dancing.

The only, there was actually, we were kind of like had like, national news having a drive-through strip club that was here in Portland. But other than that, it was more novel, I would say. It was more novel of a thing to see your average everyday kind of person, your girl slash boy slash person next door, kind of doing, you know, naked stuff online. And so, yeah, I saw a pretty big boom. It was also, like, the big, like, thing that inspired me to, to really change my content was, like, ironically, how many people were doing it. I kind of was like, okay, I think I want to do something a little bit more subversive. Yeah, I mean, You really, I think, stood out among other only fans creators for these viral, like doing viral content, basically on only fans.

So tell me how that started. I think it was with a pumpkin, right? Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. It was 2021 October. I'm like, I want to do something for special for Halloween. And I was, I had done some partnered stuff with people, you know, originally was a lot of just solo stuff. But somebody told me, they're like, I like to see some like kind of themed things from you.

And so I actually wanted to, to do like, costumes. or something with like a little bit of a storyline. And so with the pumpkin thing, 2021, I will say that this kind of became a big meme, like a couple years down the road. I really, I mean, I'm the first person to do this to a pumpkin, I'm sure. But I feel like I was like the one that first person to kind of like really like make it, bring it to the mainstream. But I just, I carved a hole in pumpkin.

And I'm like, hey, guys, I'm going to be doing this to a pumpkin. I did one where I carved a hole in it. And then I had the other side, I had a bigger hole that I was able to put like a toy in, I should say that allowed me for it to be actually more ergonomic to be able to do that with because pumpkin doesn't feel all that great. Okay. So you basically had sex with a pumpkin in 2021. That blew up, it sounds like, and became an entire trend. How did you evolve your content after that? I mean, did you just realize, okay, I've hit on gold now. What should I do next? Yeah. It was really like, okay, yep,

I've been making the things that I have been for a long time. And then now I finally found out what kind of works or what gets people's attention. And so, well, what else can I do? It obviously people want to see me having sex with weird things. I mean, yes, they want to see me doing it with people too. But yeah, I thought, hey, why not pie? Because, you know, people have kind of dropped those hints a little bit like, you know, what about like, you know, American pie? Still, I've never seen the movie. All I know is that is a person that has sex with a pie. So I did that. People liked that one. And then I thought maybe, um, how about I compare things, you know, just to see like, because tier lists were kind of like becoming like in vogue of a big

trend and so I wanted to see if I can make maybe I could rate several of the same category of items to see which one is the best so I did that with cakes got it so you had sex with multiple different types of cakes right how many are we talking and what types of cakes this would be like the lowest amount of food that I've ever done this with to compare in fact I might do a remastered version later but it was only three cakes because I was like what's the best feeling type of cake and so I thought of like a bunt cake because it has a hole in it obviously a little. layer cake because it has two layers, sandwich between, and then like a loaf cake. So it's kind of like a smaller cylindrical shaped type thing. Tell me how you marketed it, because I feel like this stuff

really started to take off online. And I know you used other platforms other than only fans, right? Like Reddit and elsewhere to get your name out. Obviously, you're making this viral content, some of it spreading organically. But tell me how you really started to like take over the internet. I was in this kind of like meme posting subreddit. And they were like a pretty cool subreddit that were like progressive. And they like, they had like trans rights was like kind of basically. their motto. And so I, you know, kind of, I had some pretty good memes in there. And so I made a, I made a post where I'm like, I'm going to post video of me doing this to a cake. And then I eventually did. And so being on, like, in like the meme and Reddit sphere for so long, it's, I found, like,

ways to memeify my content to see how, like, I've been following trends and like, and, like, every one of my generation follows the trends of, like, how they, how things get more attention and fit on the algorithm. And so I started making sure that it was like, not just like, a point video, it was a YouTube video that had it. That's kind of like became the big aspect of like the kind of striking gold of this format that I've kind of like been able to curate. Okay. So when you talk about YouTube, were you on YouTube as well? I know YouTube doesn't allow adult content, which is the same for like most social platforms, I think aside from Twitter. So how are you leveraging these social apps to promote that content without violating terms?

I censored it. I placed a big old black bar just like in the front of it and kind of like, And I said in the video, like, if you're watching this on YouTube, then know that there's going to be, I say that every time there's going to be a black bar covering, type of stuff. And so it went through for a long time. I mean, eventually the YouTube did get taken down. But I was able to get a lot of my videos on there covered. I think one of them had one where it was like, it was like, the black bar was like too small. It looked, it just kind of hit the bots that kind of scan for that type of thing. And it's probably also the language I was using too, because I wasn't like censoring myself. I mean, like, if, if you're watching this, podcast on YouTube, you probably are noticing how we are obfuscating a few words and carefully choosing our language here. I was not. I was just basically taking the whole video and putting a black bar over and cutting out the camera angle that was actually on the like the close up of it. So it was making like a basically a PG-13 version of it, or I guess in like a theatrical R-rated version of it. I was able to post it to Reddit and the the moderators of the subreddit I was posting to, they liked it. They liked seeing it. And then people also liked it. They liked it.

but then they kind of change their terms where they're like, okay, this is getting too much because people are going to start actually posting adult content. I feel like the success of so much of your content was really driven by this, like, ability to understand YouTube and the internet and kind of like Mr. Beastifying your content. Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah. I wanted to see what makes a YouTube video get, I guess, viral or get a lot of views and retain attention. That's exactly what it is.

It's attention retention is the biggest. And taking Mr. Beast videos and. seeing what works for him, all the things, because, you know, it's really making something that is, that captures the attention and holds it for a long time. The quick transitions, the quick jump cuts, the always having something on screen that's like, that's always constantly moving. Like in my cake video, I had a bunch of like, you know, memes kind of on screen and like a bunch of silly little sound effects. I did a video where I ranked a bunch of fruit. It was like eight different fruit. And I knew that the, the thumbnail was going to like go viral. And it kind of

me having all the holes cut in the fruit and my hands crossed. It just, it's the, it's the, It's building the aura with that. It's also turning them into TikTok, shooting separate promos for the TikTok and for the actual video itself. Because different platforms have different aspect ratios, like TikTok is a vertical, whereas somewhere like Twitter or Reddit is horizontal. Then I did a pizza one where I tasted which pizza chain in the U.S. has the best pizzas. It was five-year-old ones like Domino's Little Caesar's Pizza Hut, all these things to see which one was the best for folding up the pizza and using it that way. And then, of course, there was the biggest one. My biggest one was the pasta one. It was like my eight mile. It was the one that really blew up. I had six toy containers that were see-through that you can buy the actual cases on the website that are just the cases. There's see-through. I put six different types of pasta in them. So it's just like you can see them all pressed up against like the almost like they're pressed up against glass. And I ranked which pasta was the best for doing that with. Things like spaghetti, mac and cheese, lasagna, toys, toys, toys, tortellini ravioli in various different sauces, too. That one was the most ridiculous just because

like how unhinged it looks to see all the food pressed up into a little container. The Taco Bell was another one that was really big. It was me ranking the best item on the Taco Bell menu. I think Taco Bell is just, it's already very meable. It's very like everyone has it all the time. And for that one, I definitely leaned into the presentation aspect of it and being like, if you want to go to Taco Bell and I actually had music over it. I had so many different like angles and cuts and things popping up on screen. That's when I used like actual subtitles for, because I found that when using subtitles, you want to make it so that almost like every word or every few words are like flashed on the screen at one time. It's not just like a, you know, full sentence at a time.

It keeps retention. It keeps attention a lot more. I did the burgers. The, the sandwiches was the big one returning to the toy container. I put five of America's popular sandwich chains like subway, Jersey mics, Jimmy Johns, all in like the fleshlight containers. And I, uh, which sandwich was the best. That one attracted the attention of adult star Kazumi. And Kazumi, for people who don't know, is like, I feel like she's the original OnlyFans influencer. She's so massive online and she's so good at going viral as well. She really is such a interesting, like, self-made person in the OnlyFans world. She does all kinds of studio work. She does all kinds of solo work that also, yes, goes viral.

And that's why she saw the video she wanted to work with me because she knew that it would be a great kind of like collaboration for her content, for a restaurant she was actually kind of like advertising for at the time. And yeah, she had a burger that she was doing. She had me come out to to test out the burger for her for the first time ever. Got it. So you basically had sex with one of the burgers, right? It was the special Kazumi burger, yeah. So since you make a lot of this like viral content, what's your audience like? I mean, do you have like a mostly younger audience? It seems like since you're tapping into such like zeitgeisty things on the internet, it would skew more Gen Z. But who's your fandom made up of?

My fan up is made up of actually a lot of like middle of the road queer people. It's like I would say probably maybe 60% men, 30% women, 10% gender nonspecific. I would say, yeah, it might skew towards people who are, who would be younger, who are able to go on to only fans, but definitely terminally online people. People who understand the memes and understand the contexts of why this meme is funny. But you don't have to be terminally online to know about something like skibbitty toilet. You don't have to be terminally online to know that, you know, having sex with pasta is a weird thing that you might want to see. So people who are easily entertained by that type of stuff, people who want entertainment is kind of like has been my following.

Also, a lot of people like trans men who are like, yeah, if I had the appendage to do this with, I would. I think also just being born as this woman, it's like if you did wake up, you know, with a male appendage, like, what would you do? Honestly, having sex with pasta sounds probably like something that a lot of people would do. So I know in addition to doing all the stuff that you do with food, you also have these sort of like longer character based viralish content too, which is like almost the form of like political commentary. Can you tell me a little bit about that content? Like when did you start to do? I think you did like a Ben Shapiro. Yes, I did. Yeah, 2002. I did a video kind of parodying Ben Shapiro. Now Ben Shapiro, if not familiar, online right wing personality type thing. He mixes his his entire platform about owning. college kids in debate. He's a debate lord type thing. Like one of the very like original debate lords. So I made a parody about him. The video is called wet-ass P-word. That's what the whole film is called, basically. It's based off of a viral clip of him talking about the song Wop and how he disagrees with the message with it. And he tweeted something very ridiculous and he read it, read the words. And every time

the lyric would come up, he would say, wet-ass P-word and everyone made fun of them for it. great title for a adult film. But I started doing that in, yeah, 2022. And that wasn't the only Ben Shapiro video you did, right? No, I did another one actually kind of under the same like pretense, but like really hamfisting that actual like tweet. I took a toy and I was in character as Ben Shapir explaining why a dry version of it is actually better than a wet one. And I actually dubbed over some like noises of balloons rubbing together and having so it's like emphasize how dry it actually was. It was pretty ridiculous. I did one for the election, which was me pretending to be a Trump supporter, where I wore a hat that wasn't a maga hat.

It was supposed to look like one instead of Make America Grey Grant. It said, make P.P. Pee, Poo again. Because I wanted something that was like a maga hat, but actually wasn't that. It was me with that. And then, of course, I mounted a flashlight to an AR-15 and had sex with that. Now, that was a pretty unhinged video because it was basically me saying, this is what the average Trump supporter is like. This was supposed to be a common. on gun fetishization and gun culture to, like, I'm literalizing the kind of way that people have glorified and kind of worships guns as almost like in a sexual manner. I did also, most recently, the Elon Musk one. Yeah, tell me about the Elon Musk one.

I wanted to kind of like make a commentary of like, what is Elon Musk doing? How is the best way to make fun of them? Well, obviously, besides being in character and doing sexual things, I figure that it would be, again, to literalize how Elon Musk is kind of affecting the world. I took a globe. I cut a hole in it. And I I put a flashlight in the globe, and it was, you know, Elon Musk wore this, like, weird outfit when doing an interview, doing like a talk show where he says legalized comedy and they want to make comedy illegal. It was like an outfit that was so weird that you can actually find on Amazon and it all was like a very like cheap, like $20 shirt and like a silly pair of sunglasses that I was able to nail it because it was the exact same things that you could find on Amazon. So it's weird seeing the richest man in the world wear such a strange-looking outfit.

You also did a Skippy Toilet Parity, right? I did. Yes. That one is still actually just, like, as we speak, is still, like, blowing up again. It has around almost 300,000 views on my Instagram. And I think it's my most watched reel that I have. How did you do the Skippity Toilet? Oh, boy.

So a company, food companies have sent me six stalls. They sent me, like, life-sized, like, 100 pounds. So, like, these things are built. tough. They ship headless, which is unnerving. When you open the box, there's just like a headless looking body. I was able to fix it to a bracket and mount it to a piece of wood

that I then put inside of my toilet and then it was there. This doll head also has like a hole in the mouth. That's kind of its own kind of toy flashlight type thing. So as it's in the toilet, it has the wig on. It's like, you know, it's a woman's head with like the makeup and the eyelashes and

everything. I dressed also for in Skibbitty Toilet, which again, you're familiar with, you broke the news upon Michael Bay's thing that I, for the longest time, I thought was fake. I did break the news of the Skibbitty Toilet movie. Yes. But for people that don't know, there's these cameramen that are sort of like the enemies of the Skibbitty toilets and you dressed as a cameraman, right? I did. Yes. I wore like the suit and tie with the black gloves. I actually looked for

the longest time to find an actual like camera that I could probably fix it and put on my head or something like that. I decided against it because the logistics of it were already hard because doing this into, I don't know if you've ever tried to have sex with the toilet, but it is difficult because you're basically in like a deep lunge the entire time. Like your body position is just, it's a hard thing and also cramming all of your cameras in the bathroom. How do you come up with your ideas? Like I feel like you're so in the zeitgeist of the internet with the content that you're creating. How do you develop these ideas and how do you kind of formulate them to succeed?

I figured that like I see how a meme is getting like traction or like a viral video or something like that. And I think about how do I make this like an adult video? How do I make this something that I can put on OnlyFans? How do I make this sexual? And I figure that if I can match that type of trajectory, if I can match that kind of virality and that uniqueness of the meme and make it into something that is, you know, sexual, that will kind of, I'll carry on the momentum that the meme already has, you know, that the trend is already going.

It kind of like, I'm like sailing in the winds of it. Was there anyone doing this kind of before the internet? Like, are you inspired by any adult content that came before you? Definitely a couple. For the political commentary stuff, obviously the who's nail and palin type thing, that was a big kind of cultural moment for adults video parodies back in the day, back in during the like John McCain, Sarah Palin era of electoral politics here in the U.S. It was that time that like it really showed that this type of media attention that it got

is actually something that I could, you know, not just use, but also used to be able to make political commentary. something I've actually wanted to do. Another one would be of my other silly stuff and a lot of like, you know, character-based, cosplay-based stuff is Woodrocket. Woodrocket is a company that is not, I don't think they're around anymore.

They're not making, they haven't made any videos in like three years. They made some ridiculous, like, they made a bunch of Pokemon ones. They made a Game of Thrones one called Game of Bones, and it is an hour and 40 minutes long. You know, the budget couldn't be, have been more than like $1,000.

It's so fun, and it's just, it's so creative. but they also do some really good costumes. They're, like, really ahead of the game, or they were, in terms of, like, parody character-based type things. And other types of content that the way I market myself, too, if you look at my Instagram, is a lot of, like, comedic skits or TikTok type things. It's really taking the bunch of, like, formats that a bunch of, like, TikTokers have been doing, which are skits in the form of fake Snapchat videos,

where it's, like, someone taking, recording a video of a person doing something in public. But it's obviously, like, a skit, but, like, the can. camera isn't set up like a, like, say, like a college humor type skit. It is like as if like someone's secretly recording. It seems like only fans is so intertwined with virality and being shaped by virality. And there's all these only fans, creators that have really sort of starting to build a career off going viral. How do you think of your place within that ecosystem and how virality sort of as a whole is shaping only fans? Virality is a very important thing because it's basically just marketability. Being viral is being able to get your your kind of content, your

profiles all airwaves to be able to be seen by the general population. And I'm seeing a lot more people do things like TikTok skits and Instagram reels that are not just like thirst trap type things. They're leading more into the comedic edge to kind of push their content, or at least to push the, I guess, exposure of their content. There's a very big, like vast network of, of people working together and collaborating on silly comedy skits that are, again, fronts just to promote their only fans content. And it is nice. It's like when, you know, the difference between like an advertisement being a soul-sucking thing that tells you what their product is versus something that actually makes you laugh and engaged. And I do appreciate that. And it's nice. It fills our algorithm with funny, kind of interesting kind of content. One thing I noticed when I was looking at a lot of viral news recently for work stuff is that so much viral news content as a whole is promoting only fans. I mean, I'm thinking of people like Ava Louise, the girl who flashed the portal in New York.

I think my generation was very much influenced by something like the boom of YouTube, like back in 2013, Vine kind of became this, like, accessible type thing that people were just kind of doing. That that was a very fun thing, very short form videos, seven second videos. But these seven second videos had people like Logan Paul and Drew Gooden and Jake Paul, Tanamadu make so much of a career out of just these seven second videos. And I think we missed, it was like our gold rush. The gold rush of being able to be a viral person to do. the most minimal effort type thing to blow up and then have a career instantly, almost overnight. And that's something that I think people are catching on to is engaging in kind of stunts, in kind of things that, well, no attention is bad attention type thing.

There's a lot of cultural commentary on something like jackass or like this kind of self-flagellation as entertainment type thing. But it's really been a way that not only can we become famous, but we can launch a career off of it. And there's been kind of a cultural infrastructure set up. Our only way out of this increasingly insecure times financially, especially for my generation, which is like Gen Z, I'm like the older Gen Z, is through becoming a influencer or a content creator. And the best, the only way to really like the really like last vein of gold ore there is left to mine is only fans content. And so a lot of viral stuff is is not just trying to be the world's funniest person or be known for saying a. silly little joke, not just known for being, for saying Hock Tua, but it's being able to build an

entire career off of that in a, in the best, in most accessible way possible, which is selling nudes, because all you have to have is a camera and internet access, and that's it. So it's really become this a kind of avenue that I don't blame people for, for trying to go down. And like, culturally, that has been where we've been out since 2013, and it's only been building. So now anybody can become a meme. anybody can make a seven-second video and hundreds of thousands of people want to give you their money. It's just that quick gold rush that I think that's the reason why we're seeing this type of thing happen.

Where do you see your career going, like, as you develop? Because I know you also make like these longer films, these more cinematic films. And I feel like you have a really good understanding of like characters and your video production quality seems like it's improving. So where do you see this all going? I mean, are you going to be making like viral meme content? 20 years from now, like, where do you want to take this? I want to be in the director's seat. I want to make movies and in films, short films, long, for films that I've already made.

I've already made a couple of these, actually, that aren't just, they're not just stories, but they're actual, like, cultural or social commentaries that I want to somehow attach an adult video to them. It's not like an original aspiration either. There's been a lot of places that have, like, high budget, big production platforms. And I don't, I sound so snotty saying this, but some of these plays, some of these plays, some of these, you know, studios and stuff. They make these videos that are a little bit more of a sexual lifetime movie type thing. I'm really interested in making kind of Artur style film

and bringing it into almost the sex work world. I have a bunch of stories that I want to tell. I've always been a writer. I've always had like an imagination and like trying to bring like big fiction stories to this has been my greatest aspiration. So I would say my future ideally looks like, yes, making the silly skits and the, the, the, the, the silly viral videos, which I do love doing, but really using it as a way to help promote and fund my artistic endeavors, such as making films based off of experiences that I have and social issues that need to be addressed and need to be brought to light. Yeah, it seems like you're really interested in social and political commentary and technology. Yes, especially as a person who is kind of both a subject and object of this technological world I live in. One of the films I did make, it's a film called Recuperable, And it's about kind of how I feel having to be a content creator.

It's not really it's like something that is so thrust upon us by the kind of social infrastructure that we live under the film is about this person being watched by basically an Alexa in this case it's called discordia. If you know anything about discordia or recuperation or the situationists then that's that there's all elements of that type of like leftist politics in there the key here is that it's it's like an Alexa bot that's watching this guy do things and it keeps telling him, hey, Hey, did you know you can make a video of you cooking your food? Or, hey, did you know you can make a reaction video of you watching this movie?

You should do that. You should set up an account. And it's just constantly, like, harassing him to be like to make stuff. When he's like, fine, I'll kind of, I'll just make a video where I'm cooking. And it keeps telling him, like, it keeps critiquing him and telling him, do this, do that, do that. And so everything becomes a performance for him. Not a single adjunct he does. Isn't something he is trying to monetize.

And eventually he has like a big mental breakdown. And it's like, it's a big, like, rant about this type of thing. He's like, I just want to live my life without having to try and commodify everything. And then she, you know, records him saying that. And it says, hey, did you know you can make, you can make an account of you ranting kind of about capitalism? Funnily enough, this is almost like a very similar plot conclusion to a Black Mirror video or Black Mirror episode that I did not know until I watched the episode.

It's 15 million merits. Yeah, that's true. I think yours was more creative. But yeah. And so I want to make things. that are a commentary of everything everyone has to deal with, which is everyone is kind of a content creator, whether you make money off of it or not, and just kind of the world that we live in with that, like, you know, the performance of having sex with pasta for

people to watch you. And where can people watch that long form movie? Like, is that also on your only fans or where else is it? Yes, it is on my only fans. The long form movie recuperation is actually pinned to my Instagram. My Instagram is at John underscore kelo.p.p.d.c. You can find that and also a all of my other silly little skits, but of course on my only fans where you can find all of my stuff, it's just John underscore Kilo on there. And then if you want to see, you know, the actual

trailers and, you know, the more, I should say, in-depth trailers that I can't post a YouTube or Instagram. It's going to be my Twitter, which is John underscore Kilo underscore PDX. John, thank you so much for chatting with me today. Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm just so happy to have been a part of this and being able to talk about my silly little corner of virality here. All right. That's it for the show. Don't forget to subscribe. to my tech and online culture newsletter, usermag.co. That's usermag.com, where I write about all of this stuff and more. You can watch full episodes of Power User on my YouTube channel at Taylor Lorenz. If you like the show, give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen.

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