Taylor Lorenz’s Power User - Your iPhone Could Send You to Jail: The Terrifying Truth About Prairieland

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

Inside the Case That Could Change Protesting ForeverFOR AD-FREE EPISODES SUPPORT MY WORK: Buy a paid subscription to my newsletter at https://www.usermag.co         Support my work on Patreon: http://patreon.com/taylorlorenz    This week on Free Speech Friday, I sat down with independent investigative journalist Andrew Fedorov, whose bombshell Mother Jones piece reveals the horrors of the Prairieland case, which was one of the harshest protest sentencing outcomes in modern U.S. history. Activists who gathered outside a Texas ICE detention center on July 4th are now facing sentences ranging from 30 to 100 years, with combined sentencing for the group reaching over 580 years. Andrew sat in the courtroom for the entire trial, interviewed the defendants' friends and families, and pieced together a detailed timeline of what actually happened that night. We break down the real story of how these activists were persecuted and how the government built its case using Signal chats and iCloud backups. We break down:Who the Prairieland activists actually are and how they got involvedWhat really happened outside the ICE facility on July 4thHow the government used signal chats, iCloud data, and TikTok activity as evidenceWhy one man is facing 30 years and deportation for moving a box of zinesWhat these sentences mean for the future of protest and free speech in AmericaWhy big tech companies are complying with government subpoenas targeting anti-ICE accountsThis is a case everyone should understand because prosecutors are already calling it a successful blueprint, and similar cases are emerging in Minnesota, Washington, and beyond.Read Andrew Fedorov's full investigation, "How Anti-ICE Protesters Became Prisoners in Trump's War on Antifa," linked below.https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/07/prairieland-texas-antifa-trial-ice-protesters-terrorism-conspiracy/

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And all the other people at this meeting are like, no, that's insane. We cannot do that. a federal judge handed down some of the harshest sentences for protesting that we've seen in our lifetime. Activists protesting an ICE facility in Texas were handed down harsh sentences from 30 to 100 years, many for simply exercising their First Amendment rights. The details of the case are shocking, and Andrew Fedorov and independent investigative journalists recently published a phenomenal piece in Mother Jones titled How Anti-Ice Protesters became prisoners in Trump's War on Antifa.

He sat in the courtroom, covered the trial, talk to these people's families and friends and put together a detailed timeline of what actually happened that day. Today he's joining me to break down the Prairie Land case for people who haven't been following, talk about some of the shocking details he uncovered in his reporting, and discuss how these sentences are being used as a blueprint to censor and silence speech across America. Hi, Andrew, welcome. Thanks for having me. So to start off, I kind of want to back up for people that might have seen headlines about the sentences these poor activists received. And I want to explain who these people are and how they got there.

How did all of this get started last July? So Dallas, Fort Worth is a pretty red area in a pretty red state. It's not Austin, but there are still leftist activists around. It's a pretty disparate, but interconnected community. One of them that I had focused on in the article, Savannah Batten has been protesting since she was 12 years old. She got really into animal rights, and then she got into everyone's rights. And during the first Trump administration,

She was very upset about what the administration was doing to immigrants. And in this administration, she was even more so. Around Fort Worth, there's an ICE detention center that houses people from across the country, not convicted of anything, just detained. And the people in these activist circles felt terrible for them. They wanted to go out and show their support for them. And who are these activists? I mean, you mentioned Savannah has been an activist since she was 12,

love another animal rights advocate, I'm vegan. But who are some of these other characters that are involved? And how do all these people know each other? So most of them are in a signal group of over 200 leftist activists across the region. They would show up to potlucks together. They would go to poetry readings. Some of them were quite involved in the local leftist gun scene, like the Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Gun Club.

Savannah and several other people helped run a book club for a lot of people that would take in different readings from the left. Some were quite insurrectionary anarchists. Some were more sort of like Wiccan poetry. This sounds all very honestly standard and benign. The way that you're describing it, I mean, you could say this about like any kind of leftist group. It's like mostly potlocks poetry readings.

There's some maybe Wiccans, maybe there's some anarchists. Maybe there's some people like, especially in Texas, right, that are into sort of like the gun rights aspect. But overall, it seems like these people are focused on improving society at least. It sounds like they're motivated by sort of like this moral duty that they feel like maybe they have to make the world a better place. And I feel like these groups of people I covered the anti-ice protests in LA last year. And it feels like a similar group of people where there's all these sort of signal groups where people will just kind of say, hey, everybody let's go protest this detention center, let's all show up here, let's march here.

And it kind of feels like a social activity for a lot of people as well. Totally. On the 4th of July, these people came together to shoot off some fireworks outside of this ICE detention facility. They brought coolers. They brought some loudspeakers. It was in some sense a very social activity and a social activity between them and the people inside the detention facility, but also between them and just their local friends. Protesting and ICE detention center on Fourth of July actually sounds very American and setting off some fireworks and drinking some drinks from a cooler. Like it sounds like a way a lot of people on the left would celebrate. I mean, I could picture this being like a part of full event, you know, like people being like, yeah, I feel weird.

feel weird about the America patriotism that we are sort of subjected to on Fourth of July. Maybe I'm not feeling that proud of my country in this moment. So this is an alternative way to kind of celebrate Fourth of July with friends, set off some fireworks, but also feel like you're maybe doing something. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So this group plans this activity in the Signal group, and they just invite a bunch of people

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Not quite. So there's a smaller signal group that's initially planning this, and there are some in-person meetings. One of the people who's helping plan, Ben Song, according to some trial testimony, they propose, we can shoot over the building and get the people out. This is a few months before one battle after another comes out, but it's very much the idea from the opening scene of one battle after another. And all the other people at this meeting are like, no, that's insane.

We cannot do that. Let's just do a noise demo. Yeah. And a noise demo is basically just making lots of noise, drawing attention to it. I think keeping eyes on the ice facility, right, reminding people that they're there, that there are innocent people imprisoned inside.

So this one person is like maybe suggesting some ridiculous things. It sounds like everybody else in the single group is like, you're maybe doing too much. Let's just do a regular demonstration. And to walk me through how that ultimately plays out on the 4th of July. So the Prairreland Ice Attention Center, Center is a, it's in a very small town. It looks almost like my high school looked from overhead. It's surrounded by like fields. It's got huge parking lots around it. It's got big windows where

the people inside can see out. And this smaller group that's been planning it puts a pretty janky looking flyer into the bigger signal group. People from all over the area see it and some of them think maybe they should come along. A little after 10 p.m. on the 4th of July, people start showing up around the ICE attention center. Savannah Batten works a full day at Panera Bread in Fort Worth. She gets a ride with her friends Inez and Elizabeth Soto. They see her friend Mari Ruwait, who is holding a megaphone and shouting Esperanza. Benjamin Song, who made the one battle after another ask proposal, is there.

A bunch of other activists are there. And so when you say showing up, are they in these fields? Do they gather around one point? Are they in cars on foot? What are they doing? I mean, do they have blankets out to watch the fire? What's it like? A bunch of them carpool together and people start lining up along the fence that runs

alongside the facility. It's along the set of windows that people inside can see out of and they start setting all fireworks over it. Later on, the police will claim that the fireworks were aimed at the detention center, but if you look at the video, it's, I mean, it's not purely vertical. These are not professional fireworks experts. One of them actually set off a firework in his lap because he was not professional firework expert, he didn't read the instructions.

But certainly they wouldn't be firing them at the immigrants who they are there to protest for freedom. No, certainly not. And everybody inside the detention center is literally behind a wall. They're behind the windows. It's unclear if they can hear them, but eventually somebody presses a phone to the window

and they can't read it, but they see that they're in touch. So it's a little after 10. There's maybe a dozen activists here having fun, protesting, lining up, trying to make the people stuck inside feel a little bit less alone, setting off some fireworks. It sounds like it's a pretty somewhat wholesome scene. So when do things start to go awry?

So there's this one guy that showed up who only knew about the protest from the signal group. His name is Nathan Bauman. He drove up from College Station, which is several hours south of Fort Worth. He doesn't know anyone there. He's wearing black block because he saw that on TikTok as a good tactic to wear at a protest. He's lied a lot in the signal group coming into this, saying that he's got a bunch of protest arrest and his parents are immigrants and are in danger of being abducted by ICE, none of which turns out to be true. He would later say, I'm just saying this to fit in. He brought spray paint and at some point breaks off.

Somebody else in the group joins them. They go into the parking lot. He starts spray painting on various cars and vans, Ice Pig, Bigot, somebody breaks a security camera. somebody slashes some tires, and these guards inside start freaking out and call the police. Nobody warns you that when you go independent, no matter what your career, your income stops arriving so regularly. These days, I don't know when or if my next paycheck will come. And that makes managing my money really, really difficult.

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lot, Benjamin Song, who'd been stationed as a lookout holding a rifle at a corner near the parking lot, starts firing at the cop. The cop is hit. He has a flesh wound. The bullet lodges in his body armor, and he goes down, but he's ultimately okay. He only spends about four hours in the hospital. But back in the parking lot, he gets back up on one knee and starts firing back in the direction where he was shot from.

He seemingly manages to hit the rifle that Song is holding and jams it. Song starts running in the other direction, ditches the gun, runs past another of the protesters who was there, who's like, what did you just do? Nobody was expecting this to happen. And yet the song is on the run for like 11 days. What about the other activists there? There's close to a dozen other people there. What do they do? Do they just start scattering?

some stick around. There are pretty much immediately cops in every other direction who round up almost everyone who's there. There are two people who are still unaccounted for in some of the testimony, but pretty much everyone who is there is arrested. One person makes it home. One person is arrested in a van full of guns and body armor and the sheriff's deputy who arrests her is immediately jumping to this is a terrorism incident, which is a narrative that spreads very far. They also start fanning out, right, in the days following and arrest other activists that were actually not ever at the protests itself, right? Yes, so shortly after the protest, they arrest Daniel Sanchez Estrada, the husband of Mario Wade, one of the people who was arrested at the protest.

She'd called him the day after being arrested, asking him to go check on her car so it doesn't get repossessed. He's a green card holder. He starts thinking, I have a lot of leftist zines at my house. I should maybe not have them there. He boxes all the zines up and brings them to his friend's house. Then as he's pulling away, he's arrested on the pretext of a wide right turn, which is a little bit ridiculous. I don't know if anyone's ever been arrested for a wide right turn. But then essentially he's charged with concealing evidence.

They claim that he's trying to cover up these zines as evidence in the case against his wife. Because these leftist zines are somehow radical, and they have to do with this like radical terror plot. or whatever that his poor wife is involved in. This is terrifying. So what case does the state start building against them? The state starts claiming that these people planned an ambush on the ice facility, that they wanted to hurt the cop, that they wanted to attack the facility.

They don't initially use the word terrorism in legal chargings, although that word has been used since almost the beginning in this case. But then in September, Charlie Kirkish shot, and things change massively. the government's view on leftist activists is inflamed. After the Charlie Kirk shooting, the government, I feel like went nuts. The Trump administration was knocking on people's doors over tweets. Like, it was really intense, even though, of course, the shooter has not been yet found guilty. But it seemed like there was this narrative that emerged, especially on the right, that there were these radical leftist gun maniac shooters that could gun down any innocent YouTuber, apparently.

How does that shooting and the media firestorm that ensued around Charlie Kirk affect these, activists cases in Texas. After that shooting, Donald Trump issues a new directive to focus on Antifa terrorism across the country, which he categorizes as far-left organized violence. And the government needs a case to show that this exists. And the case of the people who were arrested at this ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas becomes their showcase for that. What you're talking about, I've covered on this channel before, it's NSPM 7, which is

this designation. I think it designates like anyone who criticizes capitalism or something is also like an extremist, Christianity, American way of life, which like, what does that even mean? I think it's also if you promote LGBTQ lifestyles, like this is just basically a broad attack on left wing values of equality. Can you talk a little bit more about how that plays out specifically in how these cases are handled? Obviously, I understand like they're trying to make this show trial prove leftist extremism. But ultimately, it doesn't sound like a lot of people were there that day to be extreme. I mean, it's not even like they were dressed in black or trying to do anything in secret.

It sounds like basically like a party. Yeah, I mean, the government's case never really came together as far as I could tell in the courtroom. To the extent that these protesters, defense attorneys rested their case before calling any witnesses because they thought the government hadn't met their burden of proof. They show pictures of the book club. They show pictures of these people hanging out. and being friends. They bring up signal chats that were pulled from their lock screen notifications. Yeah. Let's get into the signal chats because one thing that the government was trying to claim

at some point with this case too is just like being in a signal chat. We've seen this in other cases across the US in the past year, especially as the government has sought to criminalize speech on social media. I tell people all the time these social media bans, these social media regulations also apply to apps like signal, which are considered social media under these laws. They argue that basically just being in these signal chats or consuming the wrong content on TikTok, right, was sort of evidence that these people were radical terrorists, right? Yeah. So the government actually brings in a right-wing scholar of left-wing violence.

And his definition of Antifa includes things like not publicly saying that you're Antifa, using the signal, wearing black as you're currently doing. It's an extremely expansive definition, whether you say you're an Antifa or not, that is a signal that you're in Antifa? Right. Like, by that definition, I guess I'm Antifa right now. I'm wearing black. I'm in signal.

I'm talking about leftist politics. Like, arrest me. It's quite terrifying. And I feel like it's another example of people's digital footprint being used against them. A lot of people on the left have, I think, struggled to grasp why they should care so much about privacy laws and why these social media age verifications, child safety measures are dangerous. And here I think we have a very clear example of why something like your watch history is not something that you want the government to be able to have access to. Right. I mean,

the main things that they were able to pull were from their eye clouds. And you know, they were using apps like signal. They thought they were safe. But basically Apple just handed over whatever the FBI wanted when they came with a subpoena. Which is something the government will do all the time. And we, we know that the New York Times reported a little while ago, but their meta and Google are currently complying with hundreds of subpoenas a week from the government seeking to unmask anti-ice accounts on Instagram specifically and Instagram group chats. A woman was arrested in Virginia for contributing to the delinquency of a minor because she joined an anti-ice group chat from an anonymous account to encourage high school's anti-ice protest.

So I feel like when I hear these cases, I think a lot about the laws that I cover and how this stuff can be weaponized. Texas just sought to pass the App Store Accountability Act. It was upheld in the latest court. Hopefully it gets overturned at some point. But I mean, that would just eliminate all anonymity from every single platform and give the government. They wouldn't have a need for a lot of these subpoenas if these child safety laws pass. So it's quite terrifying.

Yeah. I mean, something I wanted to specifically get your take on was the person who started spray panning doing illegal things at this protest was somebody that didn't know these people from an in-person community, just knew them and knew what they understood to be their tactics from things like TikTok. I wonder if, you know, what you think of like not in-person organized. First of all, the internet is the most powerful organizing tool of our time. So we don't want to not use internet and not use digital technology. The far right constantly leverages the internet. And so I think to never engage with any sort of digital communication, it doesn't make any sense, right? But I think that we need people on the left to wake up and understand that we need policies that protect our privacy.

I support people having better operating systems instead of using Apple. There's graphene OS, which a lot of people are sort of learning about these days. And basically just recognizing that these laws that would obliterate everyone's privacy, would make this so much worse and make it so much easier to prosecute anybody, basically, on charges like this. These laws are being passed under the guise of cracking down on social media addiction. So when you see these leftists that say this stuff about social media addiction, we're cracking down on big tech. No, you're not. You're literally handing the government a loaded gun and you're saying, do whatever you want because anybody can be implicated in this way. And we don't

have to imagine how these laws are used. This is a case in Texas, right? But similar laws like this already exist in places like Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China. And look, there are a lot of great things. China, people have housing and stuff, right? But we don't want to give the mass surveillance capabilities of China to Donald Trump. We don't want to replicate the censorship regime in Saudi Arabia of the internet in America. These are dangerous ways, right? These are countries that do not celebrate freedom and free expression, I would say, most of them.

And I just want people to know, there are a lot of stupid American, especially around China, right? There's all these conspiracies. There's a lot of American interests, imperialist interests in sort of villainizing these other regimes and stuff. And I think that that's legitimate. We don't want to feed into that. But what we do want to look at is the structure of the Internet and how the Internet is structured in different places. And what's replicating those regulations in America would allow our government to do? I would argue in China, they have a radically different government with radically different goals.

So the same policies and the same surveillance mechanisms are used in radically different ways. And in America right now, we're seeing privacy obliterated. We're seeing this moral panic about sort of social media being used as pretext to remove anonymity from the internet. And we know how the government is using it. It's using it in the same way that honestly, the Russian government was using it in 2013 when they passed similar child protection laws. And it ultimately just cracked down on LGBTQ people. It's been used to do horrible things to people seeking free expression or seeking to challenge the government. So I want people to like really understand how this.

played out in this case because it is scary. And I think a lot of these activists don't realize things like you muted notifications, maybe, but you have an I message pop up, right? And so your messages are available or you really only need one person's phone to be compromised in a signal group for it to be a massive liability. When Westchap first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked the Rachel.

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This is horrifying. So the government's building this case. They're using trumped-up claims after Charlie Kirk is murdered to say these people are radical, anti-va terrorists. And they're handed out sentences that are shocking. I feel like this is what most of the headlines have centered on. How was the government able to get such extreme sentences for these protesters? I mean, some of these people are like the guy you mentioned

who just moved the box of zines is facing potentially decades in prison. Yeah, I mean, and interestingly at a time when the January 6th protesters were all pardoned, right? I honestly cannot tell you what was in the minds of those jurors. What I can say is that when the jurors came back to deliver the verdict after just two days of deliberating, two of them were red-eyed or teary. To me, that speaks to like pretty mixed feelings in that jury, but to Savannah Batton, one of those protesters who was sitting there hearing their verdict on her that just read like cowardice. It read that they didn't fight for their doubts for the necessity of doubt in that

jury room to coming to such a monumental verdict. What were the verdicts and what are some of these people facing and is there any chance that it can be overturned, appealed? I mean, what is sort of the fate of these protesters? Most of the people who were there got 50 years in prison as there's sentence, Benjamin Song, who pulled the trigger, got 100 years. Multiple of them were charged with attempted murder because the prosecutors claimed that they were well aware enough of what Song was thinking to foresee that this might happen. Those people eventually were not convicted of attempted murder, but basically every other

charge, rioting, material support for terrorism, I believe the explosive charges were, they were convicted on. Mari Ruwait, whose husband moved the zines, got 70 years, so more than the 50 that other people got because of the conspiracy to conceal evidence. And her husband, Daniel Estrada Sanchez, who literally just moved a box of zines, got 30 years and is facing probably deportation proceedings. The defense attorneys are appealing these sentences, but they're in the Fifth Circuit of Texas, which is a notoriously conservative court system. And I'm personally not super hopeful about that. There is talk of appealing for pardons if there is a Democratic president down the line. I don't trust the Democrats who the Democrats love the police just as much as anybody else.

This seems like a horrifying prospect for these people. I mean, even if a Democrat does come into power, it's unlikely that they would be willing to pardon so-called terrorists. I mean, these people's names have been smeared through the media. I think the right is very mobilized against them to the point that they would make controversy if they were given clemency. It's really scary. And I'm curious, just as somebody that sort of follows this stuff, too, is what do you think this means for the future of activism? And how do you think this is going to play out? Do you think that we'll see more cases like Prairieland? I've been writing a lot about the government's crackdown on free speech and free expression online. But it seems like they're also just really aggressively trying to silence in-person protesting as well. Yeah, so we're actually already seeing this. There haven't been other material support for terrorism charges filed on other protests. yet. But there are cases against ICE protesters in Minnesota. In Washington, there was one in Illinois that was dropped because of rampant misconduct by the prosecutors. But they are repeating this

playbook and recently Mark Arubio hosted a conference on like combating Antifa internationally. So they're trying to export this program as well. The Prairieland case does seem to be for them like a successful test case. That's horrifying. And I feel like it should be such a wake up call to people of what can happen. These are people that ultimately joined the signal group, showed up at what was, wasn't it originally kind of determined to be like a low risk activity? Didn't they have some sort of like rating score of like how risky is this activity? No rating score, but Enosoto was like, this is a pretty chill introductory protest activity. It's nice for the people inside. It's nice for the people outside.

Come have a good time. Right. I mean, I've been watching all those videos of like the Portland ICE protests where they're like wearing silly costumes and doing some stunts or doing yoga outside the detention facility. I don't know. Some of that stuff is easy to make fun of. But at the same time, like it's ultimately it's sort of also community building for these groups. And they're trying to show solidarity and make these people that are held, I would argue, unlawfully inside feel less alone. Yeah, exactly.

It's important first amendment activity. And it is much scarier to do that now under this, under law enforcement that can react like this. Well, Andrew, I'm so grateful for your time today and your coverage. I'll put the link to your story, which everyone needs to read. It's just like a gutting story. It'll be linked in the show notes below. But thank you so much for joining. And I hope everybody follows your work because you're doing such important reporting.

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