TBPN Live - Apple’s MacBook Neo, OpenAI’s Pentagon Agreement, Anthropic’s Investors Silent on DoW | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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There was some big news this week. Of course, everyone knew that Apple was launching new products, but there were some surprises, and there's some cool stuff. Starting with the MacBook Neo, the more downstream take is like, how is Apple affected by the AI boom? But let's start with the actual products, because this thing, in the video, it looks so small. It looks like an 8-inch laptop.

So this is the MacBook Neo, sort of designed to compete with the Chromebook. It comes in at 599. Well, not even just a Chromebook, just all PCs. Yeah, but I mean, you're not going to get this for, like, if you're in a professional workplace, go to a desktop with multiple monitors, plug in, you're doing like advanced work. Like, this is for students, this is for the low end. Or just a personal computer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because of cost. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And now they can have an integrated suite. I love the launch video too. It's very weird when they start because it's just this blank block and then they're adding features to it with CGI. It does a really good job. It's sort of anti-climactive because every feature they add is just like what you'd expect.

I was kind of like, oh, is this gonna be a touch screen? And then it's like, oh no, it's just a normal screen. Just like, oh, like, guess what? It has a keyboard. Boom, mic drop. Oh, it has two USBC ports. It is kind of cool that they put the headphone jack a little bit further down.

And then they're like, check it out. You're never going to guess this. A camera, we put it on the computer. They're like, hey, we heard you liked having an iPad that you could attach a keyboard to. So we basically took an iPad and put a keyboard. But it's very cool how they like sort of expand the product, like show you, okay, there's the speaker.

It's pretty big. It goes on the side. There's two of them. 13 inch display, 16 hour battery life. The price is the really crazy thing. So $5.99. For students, it's $100 cheaper. So $4.99, that is $1,000.

One of the cheapest Apple products they've ever made, I'm pretty sure the headphones cost more. The Apple Pro, Apple AirPods Max costs like 500 bucks. Remarkably cheap, A18 Pro chip, 256 gigs or 512 of storage, four colors. They got it in Ramp Yellow. They call it citrus, but I think everyone's gonna be. And it now costs the same amount

as the entry level iPhone, 17E. Yeah, people are sort of like, ah, it's underpowered, but look at the price, this is crazy. The last time Apple had a product that was anywhere near this cheap was in 2014. So 12 years ago, they sold the MacBook Air for $899. And now they have this down at $499 or $5.99, which is remarkable. Really, really cheap, cheap for 2026, cheap for an Apple product, even cheap when compared to other laptops. So this is sort of like their escape hatch, their pressure release valve. So they can actually

increase the price on the other products more because if you're price sensitive, well, they have a product for you. And there was something. similar that happened with the new suite of iPhones where the iPhone pro max was getting so big and the camera notch was so in your face and the phone was bigger and heavier and the battery life was great it was very powerful and a lot of people want that but there were also a lot of people who were complaining I just want a thinner phone well then you have the iPhone air and there's going to be crazy trade-offs you only get I think one camera the battery life's not nearly as good lags it lags but for some people if they're going to be complaining about the all the features of the pro

max it's like well we got the air for you stop complaining and I think that's a lot of the strategy there the other products they launch MacBook air with a with an M5 chip MacBook Pro with the M5 Pro and M5 Mac chip how much memory did you wind up going with 48 48 is that enough feel a little I feel a little soft is that enough to pull up tweets and react to them on a live stream it's up there apparently you you actually have been maxing out something like 32 gigs of RAM which which took me but by surprise I have not had I've not been memory constrained but I do I do actually love the idea of getting the top-end memory which is the thing that constrains you on running LLMs locally

is that correct Tyler yeah I mean you can always like if you have a really model you can like get around the memory thing but it gets like super slow because you're like loading it in and out okay you're loading it in and out for like every token that you're generated yeah you need a lot of memory in swam yeah but but but so so if I go with the one 28 gig the top of the line ship I should be able to inference like a pretty smart model locally pretty reliably. I mean it's also like the you can always just quantize the models down and so like you can actually run like really frontier like source models on like pretty normal hardware now.

I'm just purely thinking for you know doomsday prepping the idea of you know how you have your library in case you're bored during the apocalypse you have your DVD collection you can watch all the movies from start that's the big one for you because you're going to be able to watch All of American cinema from the beginning. I still don't think I'd actually watch. You wouldn't do that. What would you be doing? Assuming that the internet's down,

this apocalyptic scenario, you can't scroll. There's plenty of other things to do. What would you do? Take a walk on the beach. What if you can't go outside because there's nuclear fallout everywhere. You're stuck in your bunker. What are you doing?

Whittling? Did you get into whittling? I actually used to love whittling as a kid. Called it. What else did they launch? In a world where computers keep going up in price. It's kind of wild to see Apple drop a 599 laptop, says Theo. A phone.

Price Mac agree more Fry says oh man they're gonna sell five billion of these things Yeah this is this feels like more of a no-brainer for kids than an iPad for some reason I don't know if I'm just like old school and I'm like if it has a keyboard it's I had iPads with kids just have really bad aesthetics it does it does an iPad Yeah, zone and out right you get him a keyboard they're locked in but you get them there I think there's something here you're like are they date trading yeah they're doing something I think there's something about you know typing on a key that does lend itself to more creation and less consumption.

Like the iPad is a media consumption device. That's where most people use it for. They're on Netflix, play a game, do something. There aren't that many people that are power users. But as soon as you get the keyboard, you're ready to type, you're ready to work. Hilarious chart from Andresen Horowitz. Apple on CapEx?

Nah, we're good. They looked at the standard standardized quarterly capital expenditure for Amazon, Microsoft, Alphabet, Meta, and Apple. Apple. All of the four companies that are working on AI, Amazon, obviously through AWS and Anthropic, Microsoft through OpenAI, Alphabet through Gemini, and meta through MSL, they are all absolutely off to the races going to the moon on CAPEX and Apple is down 19% since 2015. Very, very funny and it's just interesting that Apple has been so unaffected by AI costs, not just on the CAPEX side, which is where every hyperscaler sort of had to say, you,

Yep, you know what? Our business is fundamentally different now. We are not the high margin cash flow generating business. We're going to draw down on that cash. We might be taken on some debt. This is a big different financial model. It's a very different financial model from years past. And buckle up. You're coming with us, shareholders. And the stocks have done well because a lot of shareholders have believed in the goal, believed in the value of AI, believed in the value of building compute infrastructure broadly. and they've been rewarded for it, in most cases. But Apple's just sort of sat that out and said, hey, we're not going to train a foundation model. We're not going to build a whole bunch of compute infrastructure. We're going to serve Gemini.

We're going to serve Gemini. And we'll pay them, what, a billion dollars a year or something like that? Yeah. It's like... Yeah, I mean, this year will be really interesting. It'll be fascinating to see what the new Siri actually looks like, what it can really do. We'll start to see that, I think, in Q2.

Yes. And then separately, we're expecting new devices from Open AI. right no yeah teasing the puck time whatever you want to call it yeah it'll be interesting to see if they can kind of break the AI hardware curse yeah that I feel like is well I wanted to think about that because I wonder if the story's over for some of those like cursed bad launches product like we saw friend apparently has found a little niche very controversial but humane has sold to HP it seems like they're not working on that product anymore, the PIN, the AI PIN. But the Rabbit R1, I think his name's Jesse, you know, that product, there's something there

where with enough iterations, I feel like that might sell well. There's still these niche applications that I think you could potentially, if you have a hardware team, you have the ability to sell something. It wasn't polished. The AI wasn't good enough. Well, the AI got better. You still have the supply chain. Maybe there's a way to cut through, but it probably needs to be a little bit more niche.

Yeah. Everyone's going to have one. Tyler, what do you think about hardware in the age of AI? I mean, I think the Mac Mini is like a good example of like AI hardware right now. Yeah, no, that's a great example. I wonder what, like, how exposed the Gemini APIs will be in iOS. Because if you, if you fully expose like Gemini kit, like, you know, in iOS, just like you can call like a Weather API or a Maps API, like Uber exists because there was like a,

there was like a GPS API that you could just call within an iOS application with a couple lines of code. And you didn't have to like figure out where the user was because the iPhone just told you that as long as you click like, yeah, share my location with Uber. If you now get an app that has not just Apple's local LLMs that are sort of, you know, mediocre, but it can go and call Gemini and do a whole bunch of crazy stuff, you start running into like Willowel. someone build an open cloth app or something, like how much of Apple's AI strategy will wind up being vended into the third-party ecosystem, which has served them so well for so long, they've sort of turned their back on it. They locked down Apple Vision Pro a little bit more. There was way less uptake there.

And there's a ton of risk because if I develop like a free iOS app that then incurs like a ton of Gemini tokens and ton of charges, how do those get? passed through, is Apple just biting the bullet on it? But there's something interesting there where turning app developers loose to build software that takes advantage not just of local LLM capabilities, but Gemini under the hood, and sort of wrap it up in a neat bow that is available to the consumer. Could be very cool. The big question that I had, so Apple's unaffected by CAPEX costs, but they've also, with

this release, been unaffected by memory costs and the Ram-Mageddon. I get the strategy of Apple saying, look, we're good with Google handling the AI inference stuff. They have GCP. They have the TPU. They got Demis, who's got a book written about him by Sebastian Malibi. The deep mind is great. We're working with them. CapEx, unaffected.

I understand that. How are they not affected by memory prices? Ram-Mageddon has come for us all. Apple always overcharges for RAM. If you went to build a computer or a phone or laptop or. you know, iPad equivalent, and you just went to retail, getting an extra 128 gigs of memory or a slight memory upgrade might cost you $30. In the Apple ecosystem, that's like $200.

So Apple has built in this pricing buffer for a very, very long time. Many companies are dealing with Rammageddon this year and some stats that are interesting. DRAM prices rose 172% throughout 2025. DDR5 spot prices have quadrupled since September of 2025. Renforce expects PCD RAM to roughly double in price just in Q1 of 2026 with LPDR pricing, seeing the steepest increases in history. So every wafer that's allocated to an HBM stack, a high bandwidth memory stack for an NVIDIA GPU, is literally a wafer denied to the LPDDR5X module of a mid-range smartphone or consumer laptop SSD.

So they are truly commodities. There's only so many of them, and they can only go to one place or the other. Apparently, OpenAI's Stargate initiative alone could consume up to 40% of global DRAM output as it stands today. And this is the problem because there's only three major companies in the memory category. It's Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron. Together they control 95% of the global DRAM production. Remember, Micron has been trying to build a new facility in New York. Yes.

And six people basically blocked it. The rumor is that it's like foreign funding. Oh, interesting. actually trying to hold Micron up. I mean, Micron has been very, they've been a huge beneficiary of AI margins and higher prices. So much so that they've actually reallocated all of their capacity to AI, and they pulled out of their consumer brand, which is called Crucial. So if you ever tried to build a gaming PC, you probably found crucial ballistics,

which was like this very aggressively X-Games branded, like PC gamer DDR memory. It's like the monster energy of RAM. Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. No, it really is. Gamers will be rising up soon with monster energies in hand to take the RAM by force if they need to. I already see memes about this all the time. I see these like the worst AI slop video you've ever seen, just absolute junk. And then the caption will be like, so this is why I can't afford RAM, you know, or this is why RAM is $800 a stick or whatever.

And then on the flip side, people will say, you know, occasionally there'll be a good AI slot video. People will be like, okay, it's worth paying $800 for RAM because this is so good, right? It goes both ways. It goes both ways. But clearly people are feeling the pinch. But Apple fans will be sitting out the fight thanks to a few key moves from Apple that help them avoid disaster this year. So one, Apple has long-term supply agreements that allow them to secure memory 12 to 24 months in advance. they also benefit from vertical integration and custom silken.

So instead of buying consumer-grade commodity DRAM modules that you see go into either gaming PCs or Nvidia GPUs, for example, they negotiate multi-year contracts directly with Samsung and SK-Hinix for custom LPDDR packages that meet Apple's exact specifications. And so I think... Yeah, so this is like... RAM's always been cyclical. Yep.

locking up the demand. I don't even think Samsung would have predicted this level of demand even three, four years ago. Otherwise, they may not have priced it in the way that they did. Of course. The other thing that maybe you get to is... And Samsung's still making their default margin. They're just like, the opportunity cost is so high. We could, we could react. The other thing is they probably have so much margin in the upsell that they could have some margin compression still be so Apple at various times has had over a hundred billion in cash they currently have over 66 billion in cash like they can take the hit there they can also just take a hit to their margins every AI lab looking at

that cash I know Tim I could really put that to you right now yeah they're the only the hyperscaler that hasn't really shelled out to the tune of 10 20 30 billion into one of the frontier frontier labs my takeaway is like this is an incredible testament to the operational prowess of Apple to pull this off at this scale. The Sony PlayStation 6 is allegedly going to be delayed until 2028 or 2029 because of rising memory costs. They're going to wait it out. Because there are three players, it's not just TSM in this case. It does feel like there'll be more pricing competition and there's more of a race to build capacity.

Whereas a TSM, if they don't build the next FAB, they can just continually raise prices and increase margins once the next contracts go up for a range. renewal, whereas if Samsung has a bunch of capacity and Micron doesn't, like, Samsung wins. And so there's more of this game theoretic, like they got to, they have to build. Herald Harrison says that, quote, we ran the math. Open AI is buying three to four times more memory than it could possibly need in the short term. The most charitable explanation is aggressive forward positioning. The less charitable one is that they're cornering the supply to kill on-device AI before it starts. Well, if the on-device AI happens on Apple products, that doesn't seem like that real of a scenario. But it is an interesting thesis. Across the frontier labs, everyone is just

very AGI-pilled. They're seeing the increasing capabilities, but also the these sort of like stacked exponentials. When you went from LLMs to reasoning, the number of tokens, the number of compute required just to get a single answer when like, you know, 10x all of a sudden. And then saw the same thing with coding agents where these long-running tasks are squaring the amount of compute. And so you just keep stacking these things on and you just get more and more compute demand, but you get more economic output. So it winds up being all worth it.

When will Apple release the iPhone 18? Kalshi has before October at 35 percent, before 2027 at, at 34% what is the chance that they don't release it this year that would be probably zero and I think it is it is zero So we submitted a new semiconductor fab construction plan for the southern Taiwan Science Park last week Mm-hmm the site is located on Taon's on ding district adjacent to the F-18 fab Mm-hmm and covers 15.46 hectares they're doing more two nanometer production the leading edge with eight hectares allocated for the production area and one hector for administrative facilities. The project is expected for completion and production start in 2028, says semi-analysis.

More importantly, Wendy's U.S. President post-new video amid Burger Battle with McDonald's and Burger King. Let's see. Let's watch. Let's rate it. I like the way that he's holding it, you know. Okay. Seems normal. Yeah. Wonderful.

Kind of. burger. This is good. I like talking, talking about food in his mouth. Okay, yeah, going, going, going back for a second. He got to top it off. He's saying burgers. He's not saying product. Product. What did you do at the end there? He dips a french fry in the frosty? Whoa, okay. Okay, doesn't call it a product. No hesitation. Talking with the food in his mouth. Yeah, yeah, that's bold. That's bold. I'm giving this an eight out of ten. If you scrolled out, I like, Colonel Sanders after seeing this. Just knowing... Also, also the way he kind of puts the fry in and quickly, you know, kind of pulls the hand back.

He's got style points. Dude, here's a good job. If you're looking for a gig that will bring home the bacon, apply for the job of CEO at McDonald's. Apparently, the guy makes 18 million a year. It is funny that there's just like one after another of CEOs. This is probably good for all of them. I don't know. I want no jump. cuts. Somebody should have seen swallow. Somebody should be seen swallowing the food. Oh. Okay. People are analyzed. That's somewhat somewhat fair. We analyzing the details. Altman defended opening eyes defense department contracting in all hands yesterday calling the

backlash, quote, really painful. This was an example of a complex, but the right decision with extremely difficult brand consequences and very negative PR for us. In the short term, he told staff. I still stand by that given the events that have transpired in the world since last week, being there to like meet the government feels like being on the right path. It was just, yeah, it was just odd that Google strategy was to not say anything. Do nothing win, basically, I would think. Or do nothing, don't go up or down. Gemini just.

But I don't think Gemini is involved in this contract. It's GROC. It's GROC was the other one that came in with the same term. So Gemini doesn't have any relation with the Department of War? I think they do. I thought that there was an announcement. I might be, they might. I just don't think they were involved in this contract negotiation.

Open AI announced its Defense Department deal on Friday, hours after the Defense Secretary Pete Haguezeth designated rival Anthropica supply chain risk. There's still a question as to whether or not that's going to go through. So Kalshi has it at a 42.8% chance and it hasn't really moved. I mean, I have to imagine that at this point, both the Department of War and Anthropic are talking to each other. Do you have more information? Yeah, Gemini does have deals with the DOD, yeah.

So there's the 200 million one that was in July. That was, Anthropic was also in that one. And then they did. There was the recent, like, genAI.mil, but they're, like, involved in that, too. Yeah, but I am, what I'm so shocked by is how does AWS have, an advantage in 2026 on FedRamp and like federal classified network. But I don't know, I guess I guess AWS does have like a material advantage there still. Scott Besson went on CNBC this morning and said no private company will ever dictate the terms of our national security. Anthropics

attempts to push use clauses into their contracts with the United States government are unacceptable and their products will no longer be utilized by the U.S. Treasury or any other government agency. So doubling down there. There was also a story in in semifference. for this morning from Reed. Anthropics investors don't have its back in its fight with the Pentagon. This is very interesting. Anthropic may be standing its ground against the Pentagon, but the AI powerhouse is doing so with a noticeably quiet quarter, its own high-profile backers. Despite the company's defiance, Silicon Valley's biggest players have remained silent. In a recent meeting between Amazon CEO, Andy Jassy and Pete Hagseth, the issue of Anthropic came up, according to two people.

Amazon has invested billions in the startup, a crucial part of Amazon's custom chip strategy. as the largest consumer of the company's tranium AI chips. And Hagsath has been threatening to designate Anthropic a supply train risk, which would make it impossible for many of the military suppliers to do business with the company. Jassy Demurred declining to take Anthropic side, the people said. He wasn't alone, despite Anthropic CEO Dariomedes' very vocal opposition to the Pentagon's demands and rival OpenAI Sam Altman's running commentary on the matter, a number of anthropic investors have remained silent.

One investor told Semaphore that speaking up might further inflame things with the admin and that they were still holding out hope the issue could be resolved. And others said that Anthropic requested they say nothing. Anthropic and Amazon declined to comment. The most important thing here is that we get Pete Huggseth on Twitch. Amazon, Andy Jassy is sitting down with Pete Hegseth. Heg Seth likes Twitter. He likes X.

Got him live streaming those press conferences. Put them on Twitch. That's the goal here. Go direct. We got to talk about this. Me and Tyler were talking about just the general. like AI safety discourse on both sides always ends with people just saying like we got to talk about this.

No one has any answer to, you know, we got to figure this out, guys. We all got to talk about it. We got to talk to each other. Yeah, yeah. No one's like, no one's like, I have a clear plan. You might disagree with me, but this is my plan and this is what we're going to do. And here are the steps. And like, I think this gets us the good outcome.

Everyone's, everyone's just like, I don't know. It's very, very weird. Just from a comm's perspective, it's very weird. I mean, I feel like that's how decisions get made and, companies. Like if a decision is really obvious, you can handle it over text. Yeah. If you, if it's not, it's like, let's discuss live. Anyway, my portfolio every day at the opening bell looks like D-Day says, humon. This is an absolute disaster. It really is so crazy. I was trying to explain yesterday to a friend, like how the market, I was like, you're probably getting destroyed, right? And he's

like, yeah, it's terrible. And I was like, well, is this your retail investor friend? Yes, it might shock you to learn that the market overall is like flat for the year. It's an absolute tale. Korean stocks are crashing. The KOSPI Index, the Korea Stock Exchange, is down 10%. Korean stocks are crashing, says Joe Wisenthall. The South Korean stock market fell over 8% and triggered a circuit breaker. Jim Kramer said, beware of South Koreans, spillover to our markets, WDC, STX, SNDK,

MU, all still vulnerable. So there's lots of companies that are at risk. Sudo says developers are cooked. I vibe coded a worse version of an existing product in four weeks with serious security clause. Yeah. It's a wild time. Be careful out there.

There's new data on serious, serious traffic declines across tech publications. This is from Danny Crichton. It says no discussion of tech media can get past this basic traffic fact. in the AI world, Google and social no longer refer traffic, which means that the vast majority of readers just never find you in the first place. This is, of course, a reaction to Trace Stevens' proposal that maybe that he should buy Wired, and it's unclear if he's just having fun, but there's been a call from the tech community, like, bring back the Wired we read in the magazines as a kid, you know, it used to be so techno-optimistic. Now it's this hypercritical, maybe

semi-political outlet. But what Danny is pointing to is that these publications have seen just in the last two years since 2024 traffic declines of between 30% and 97% for digital trends. The interesting one there, I think it was, of course, Wired. In November of 2024, Wired was putting up 7.7 million 7.7 million views in traffic. Now it's down at 2.9. I wonder how much of this is due to AI overviews and Google search results now are more ad, more paid links than organic links.

There's a lot of that. There's a lot of, like something happens and just get screenshotsed and shared on X. That's pretty new. The screenshot, there's a hundred, for each one of these publications, there's a hundred or a thousand people that will take whatever news and just make it more socially native. So I would imagine that the stories these companies are telling are getting a similar amount of impressions overall.

That's just not happening. Potentially more because a lot of the stories that they write about, at least the ones that do scoops, are more interesting than ever. Well, we're not seeing a decline in VC podcast viewership. That's true. There are a number of VC podcasts that are racking up a million views for interviews with Series A or Series B founders. Yeah. Very, very impressive numbers. I mean, it's a white guy.

A lot of people think that, you know, technology is niche, some Series A founder that you haven't heard on. They can't attract a million people to sit down and watch them on Zoom talk about their business for an hour. But apparently they can. And many venture capital firms have showed us that it's possible. You do have to pay the people to watch and the views might be a little low quality, but if you pay the viewers... And people won't comment.

If you pay... Yeah, they won't comment. That's an extra bill you've got to pay, and it's very unclear why they aren't buying comments because if you're buying the views, just buy the comments too. The reason is that they are running paid traffic on meta at their own YouTube videos.

Oh, is that what's going on? They're getting the views. The meta ads, as of a couple days ago, we're public, so you can see them. they're just like running. If you're on Instagram, you'll get an ad for a podcast. That was on meta?

Because you can actually just run ads for your content on YouTube. And then you get people who are in YouTube to click on that content. Now, are they less likely to comment? Absolutely. Like the example on the right is Dwar Cash. He got a million views

and it had 4,700 comments. What else is going to do that? Kyle Corbett is highlighting some news. the New York legislature is rapidly pushing through a 2025 bill that would prohibit LLMs from providing substantive legal analysis or advice in New York. It seems that LMs could still provide substantive help to lawyers under this bill as written. Consumers, however, would be stuck with the chat bot refusing to answer their legal questions. So, again, this just seems bad.

The entire point of LLMs and AI is to give intelligence to anyone. right, like the fact that an individual can get the equivalent of five hours of legal work in a single prompt by like uploading a contract is very good for consumers. I don't even know how bad it'll be for lawyers, especially given that at least right now, even if I could generate entire legal docs, I still want a lawyer to, you know, play a part in it. Again, Kyle Corbett says, I sold my company last year, GPT5 Pro, was at least as valuable in that negotiation as our attorneys who billed us $450,000. Things that were not on my bingo card.

One, anthropic marked as a U.S. supply chain risk by the government, same as Huawei. Again, that hasn't actually happened, but it's predicted. Two, clog going viral across non-tech people as a result, number one, on the app store. Three mass chat jebc tc cancellations, thanks to open AI becoming the government AI supplier. And Prime Egent says, then they will release 5.4. Everyone will say AGI and forget all about the last week and this week. That's why it's so fun to cover AI. everything changes every two weeks.

Julian Weiser interviewed a founder named Ben Serra. He's building a company called Pulsia. They've gotten to one and a half million of AR in two weeks with zero human teammates. Very, very cool progress. But Zareem says, why is the company named AI Slop backwards? Is that intentional? Is that a nod? Or do they just get lucky or unlucky?

No, I think it was maybe a happy accident. funny. Donald Trump is at a roundtable, I believe on the data center buildout, and Donald Trump, according to Mike Isaac, wistfully at the tech roundtable, speaking about Open AI's Brad Lightcap. Brad, so young. Look at how young. That's so funny. Brad Lightcap does look very youthful. He has aged very, very gracefully. A very youthful business man. Also an absolute dog who's been on a generational run and done fantastic things throughout his career. That's a total record scratch, freeze frame. Yep, that's me.

Here's how I wound up at a White House roundtable with the president of the United States saying, so young. Look at how young. Thanks, Mike, for finding that up. And a good place to close out the show. Brian Johnson walked at a fashion show at Paris Fashion Week. A Capital says,

from Immortal Unk to Runway Unk. The only thing is it kind of looks like a futuristic funeral. It does. He's looking jacked. That is true. He is looking very strong. This is some mass surveillance going on. They're surveilling his mass.

We hope you have a wonderful evening. We'll be back tomorrow. For a big show. Goodbye.