TBPN Live - Bezos' $100B AI Plan, Nvida Chip Smuggling, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: March 21, 2026

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First, I wanted to chat more about the breaking news from yesterday. Jeff Bezos is in talks to raise $100 billion for an AI manufacturing fund. There was a funny post that was like, he has $200 billion. Why does he need to raise more money? No conviction? No conviction? Oh, yeah. No, it was funny.

It was like, it definitely, this broke containment and got into kind of the anti-capitalist part of X and they were like, wait, why are you asking people for money? money you have all the money yeah he wants to let other people in on the action well I want to let I do wonder what his like GP commit will be that's what I was saying yesterday I was like I would expect him to be like yeah I'm good for 20 20 or 30 or something like that I don't know maybe he'll go even longer but in general I think the I think the idea of going around the globe because he's an international person at this point hoovering up money from all over different sovereign wealth funds and then deploying that to help rebuild the

American manufacturing base is a good thing I wrote about it today in the newsletter, tbPN.com, and I also tried to, you know, do some searching and think about, like, what do you actually buy for $100 billion? What does a portfolio look like if it's a private equity style roll-up? If you're just taking out the market caps and you're sort of assuming the debt and continue to operate the business, but then bring more efficiency to bear, what are some of the top options? What do some of the options look like? The other thing is I saw a very viral post about someone that seemingly read the headline and thought, don't you have enough money already?

Why do you buy all these companies and fire? Like they saw automation and they just assumed like job loss. And when I look at this, I'm like, okay, if he's successful, we will actually start adding a bunch of new manufacturing jobs, which we've been shedding over the last year. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So a headline number is funny. If he had done 99 billion or 101 billion,

I don't think people would be making as many soft bank comparisons, but of course, as soon as you hear 100, billion for a mega fund. You instantly think this guy's got vision. He's got vision. It's a vision fund for America. I like the idea of an American SoftBank, I'm an American Vision Fund.

So I'm generally pro. But, of course, people are going to make comparisons to SoftBank, which has had some huge winners and a few black eyes. Moss is a high-val guy. He's been the world's richest man, briefly during the dot-com boom. It was reported that he was worth more than Bill Gates. It was pretty temporary, unclear exactly how much.

Of course, there was no liquidity at the time. But he's also held the crown for the man who lost the most money in human history after losing $76 billion in two years. You're supposed to do the want-want for that. But he made it all back. I was preemptively hitting it. Okay, yeah, yeah. He did make it all back.

He's made almost $100 billion twice. I think maybe there was a moment when he had the title of making $100 billion twice, one on Alibaba and then the second one on Arm. He's made money on Nvidia and lots of other things. The idea of an American soft bank, especially one focused on revitalizing American manufacturing, I like that idea. There are a million reasons why this is an important project, job creation, economic independence, national security, and you might just get more cool stuff. Like as manufacturing gets cheaper, like the tools that you use, the cars that you drive, the washing machine in your home,

the tires on your cars, all these different things get better, not just cheaper, but actually unlock new capabilities and new things that people enjoy. And so I'm in favor of more manufacturing, more economic development, basically. And so the question about, like, you know, Jeff Bezos' role, like, he's a great operator, and I think he's the right person to take the reins and actually deliver here. So like Mossa, Jeff Bezos has been through the ups and downs of the dot-com boom and bust. At one point, Jeff Bezos lost 85% of his net worth in like two years. But he made it back.

He did make it back, and more. He was worth like $8 or $9 billion and got down to his last $1 billion. basically because of the stock drop in Amazon. But he built it, but he not only kept Amazon alive, which I think everyone knows that Amazon went up during the dot-com bubble and then crashed and then built back up. But he also kept Blue Origin alive during that time

because he founded Blue Origin in 2000. Wow. Before the crash. Yeah, before the crash. So he was... Was it before SpaceX? Yeah, before SpaceX. Whoa.

Yeah. So... Elon Solk. I assume that Blue Origin was just memet. with Elon. No, no, no. He did it earlier. Wow. And so he, so he kept Blue Origin alive. And can you imagine how stressful it is. You're like, okay, I'm worth $10 billion. Certainly I can have a little side project as a treat. And you're like, okay, I just lost 85% of my money. I deserve, I deserve a side project that loses 20 million a month. Exactly. Yeah, I don't know how much they

were losing, but like, but that doesn't seem unreasonable. But he was able to keep it going. Of course, Blue Origin was a slow story all the way up until like last year when they landed New Glenn. And so he kept both alive and he's never given up on the project of Blue Origin that always has felt behind SpaceX for the two decades that's been operating, but is now sort of unlocking new capabilities and feels more real. They were going to turtle mode for sure. But it's working. Regardless of the fact that, you know, SpaceX is still ahead of Blue Origin, you have to give him credit

for like operating that company efficiently and actually delivering a product that we all saw go up and come back. And so like the rockets did go up and land and come back. And he's delivered people to space and back. And so he's he's like achieved the goal and not lost all the money and not put the company in jeopardy. And so like clearly there's some operational experience. That's a narrative violation. It is a narrative violation. What makes Bezos uniquely equipped to take on this type of project is the nature of his business over the life. last few decades. So he's never really had the zero marginal cost luxuries afforded to other pure play internet founders. Amazon's just always interfaced with the physical world. So it's been,

even though it's a software company and a tech company, it's always interfaced with the physical world. And they've had to focus on operational efficiencies to scale. So in 2012, Amazon bought Kiva systems, which turned into Amazon robotics. And that's a big risk to buying a big company. And we think that, you know, if this turns into, if this $100 billion fund turns into sort of a private equity roll-up, you're going to ask the question, can Bezos buy a company for $1 billion, $5 billion, $10 billion, 50 billion, who knows, and operate it and scale it and actually continue to deliver value. And he certainly did that with Kiva robotics, which turned into Amazon robotics, which delivered over a million robots that are deployed across the operations network.

So from fulfillment centers, warehouse automation, inventory flow, last mile delivery, All of these require tight integration between hardware and software to run smoothly. Bezos clearly loves this stuff, and you can actually see it. When you look at his face, whenever he gives a tour of an Amazon warehouse or a blue origin facility, he's just beaming, and he's absolutely obsessed with this technology and the physical world. And so the question I had was like, what should he buy? Yeah, the other thing is like, you know, seeing all the different volume across Amazon and being like, well, it'd be pretty convenient if that was made here or this was made here, or

or at least some of the components were made here. And it wasn't, you know, you didn't just have assembly here. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there isn't, I hadn't considered that narrative, but there is a different flow where you're, he's not sitting there being like, great, I love that so much of our volume is having to be shipped or flown across the ocean.

A ton of that, yeah. And then also he's seen attacks from T.moo and Sheehan and Alibaba and Ali Express and a whole bunch of direct from, manufacturing plant to customer and how do you respond to that maybe getting into the deeper in the supply chain makes sense although i'm not entirely sure that there's so little reporting at this point it's it's the only line is that he'll be buying manufacturing companies so there's a lot in the supply chain so i wanted to dig through some stuff that could potentially be in the crosshairs for bezos the first is lear they manufacture seats and electronic systems for the automotive industry

And a lot of these companies have huge revenues and small market cap. So Lear did $23 billion in 2025 revenue. The market cap is around $5 billion. And so the business is operationally complex. I mean, on a P.E. ratio, it trades at, like, I think, 13 priced earnings. And so, like, you have these high revenues because you're in the manufacturing business, but you're low margin. Yeah, and this has been some of the concern around B.C.'s investing in manufacturing businesses. Yep.

Are they used to it? And just a general concern that, you know, they might today be getting valued on a revenue multiple. Yep. But as they get to the public markets, people will expect them to be valued on earnings, and that is very different story. Borg Warner is another example. They're a scaled auto supplier, $14 billion in 2025 revenue.

Market cap is $9.5 billion. They're more focused on propulsion and power-related systems. They literally make turbochargers for internal combustion engines, although they've They have shifted their business a lot to be focused on electronic components, both in terms of making battery packs, motors, but they're actually already getting into selling turbine generator systems for data centers. They're part of the AI boom already. Hexel is another company.

They're guiding to $2 billion in revenue, but the market cap is $5 billion, so a little pricier on a price-to-sales ratio. Here's a fun one. Goodyear. Not only do you get blimps, which is got to be important, if you're trying to go blimp for blimp with Sergei Bryn, you just just jump to the front of the line. It's only a one point. This revenue multiple is criminal.

So the market cap for good here is 1.8 billion and revenue was 18 billion. So they're they're training at a point. Somewhere out there there's like a VC funded tire company. It's like a hundred X revenue. We're like we're going to go through a thousand X multiple compression of the next decade. Yes, you will. But Good Year is sort of the classic AI for manufacturing. They got to focus, they got to get investors thinking about their advertising blimp monopoly.

Yep. And scaling that business. Yep. So quality control is really critical. There's opportunities for downtime optimization. So if you can have better systems that limit downtime, you can produce more tires. The tire market is extremely competitive. You see Chinese tires on cars more and more.

And so these are thin, thin, thin margin companies. and that's why the multiple is so low. But getting good year. Scariest moment of my life in a car. Chinese tires. Old Chinese tires. Old Chinese tires. But, you know, a lot of people go in, they say, I need new tires.

Just give me whatever's cheapest. And so if you're competing on price and you're a low-cost supplier, every dollar counts. On the bigger side, you have Rockwell Automation. I don't know if you ever seen those videos for the Rockwell Turbo Incabulator. Have you ever seen these? Look at this. Research has been proceeding to develop a line of automation products that establishes new standards for quality, technology.

technological leadership and operating excellence. With customer success as our primary focus, work has been proceeding on the crudely conceived idea of an instrument that would not only provide inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors, but would also be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal gram meters. Such an instrument comprised of Dodge gears and bearings, reliance electric motors. Alan Bradley controls, and all monitored by Rockwell Software, is Rockwell Automation's Retro Encabulator. Now basically the only new principle involved is that instead of power being generated by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it's produced by the modial interaction of magneto reluctance and capacitive directance. The original machine had a baseplate of pre-famulated amylite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with a panometric fam.

The lineup consisted simply of six hydropical. in joke for electrical engineers because it's just a whole bunch of like slop basically like all none of those terms mean anything good startup launch video concept yeah yeah it really I mean it it helps you like detect like are you in group out group basically very very fun but they are what well were you able to clock it or were you like oh that sounds good yeah I mean it sounded silly it sounds silly so rockwell automations on the bigger side but they sit right at the intersection of factory automation software and control. So although that video is a joke, Rockwell does work on factory

automation already. So the thesis with this one is that the business is already dedicated to industrial automation. And so it's less of a turnaround, but it's a control point for pushing AI to thousands of other factories here deeper in the supply chain. It's expensive at 40 billion, but potentially in the budget. Do you think there's a world where he just buys a Ford Motor Company? That would be crazy. I mean, he wouldn't, he would have to lever up. What is Ford now? I thought, it's 45, but I'm not, but he's not going to just drop, like, raise $100 billion and then,

and then buy a company for entirely with equity. I feel like it will be deeper in the supply chain than a brand, but I don't know. It's possible. It's possible. But he might say. Isn't he already a big investor in Rivian? Yeah, sure. So like looking deeper into that supply chain.

And there's a few other car companies that you've been. been involved in. I just don't know that there's, that like, that's where the big opportunity is. It might be deeper in the supply chain, like bending the metal that goes into the bumper, this and that, and like, you know, it's 12 steps deep. It's more boring, but it's even thinner margins, less, you know, brand risk and brand value, but really focused on that, you know, applying that actual, like, commercial excellence. And then there's also the option that we get some sort of Elon-style megacorp with Blue Origin involved at some point. Like, you know, XAI and SpaceX merged,

it's possible that Blue Origin and this vehicle come together with Project Remethias in some way, and then that goes public as a new entity. A lot of these, he's actually mentioned the whole space data center thing before, I think a while ago. Wasn't it like more than a year ago? Yeah, I think they also just filed something

with the FCC. Okay, yeah, for the new cloud. Yeah, for the new. It was like 50,000 satellites, I think. Yeah, yeah. So he wants like a direct Starlink competitor. And so when you think about the full AI stack, if he's really, you know, off planet, you know, pilled and thinks he can get things he can get there even if it's like a year or two behind or I guess what's the timeline for his starling competitor? That would be like three years behind, four years? Yeah, I mean, for the moon, he's supposed to be ahead. Oh, yeah. So maybe this will all go on the moon. Well, either way, it's a big move from an experienced operator with lots of opportunity ahead. And it'll be fine. to follow along and I'm glad he's back in the game in a big way yeah not just doing random you

know side projects bottle service or bottle service he's got to be spending no more time and energy securing america's future yeah securing bottle service well you know i mean the guy can take a weekend off but one photo from his weekend flies a lot further than you know he could be completely locked in and just grinding 80 hours and then he goes gets bottle service to one time and let's go over to Jensen on the all-in podcast. At the end of the year, I'm going to ask him how many token, how much did you spend in tokens? And that person said $5,000, I will go ape something else. Yeah, right.

If that $500,000 engineer did not consume at least $250,000 with the tokens, I am going to be deeply alarmed. Okay? And this is no different than one of our chip designers who says, Guess what? I'm just going to use paper and pencil. I don't think I'm going to need any CAD tools. Right, right. This is a real paradigm shift to start thinking about these all-star employees. It almost reminds me of what we learned in the NBA when LeBron James started spending a million dollars a year

just on his health of his body, like maintaining it. That's right. Here he is at age 41 still playing. It really is, hey, if these are incredible knowledge workers, why wouldn't we give them superhuman abilities? That's exactly. Where does that go? If we extrapolate out two or three years from now, what is the efficiency of that All-Star at NVIDIA and what they're able to accomplish?

What do they look like? Well, first of all, things that, wow, this is too hard. That thought is gone. This is going to take a long time. That thought is gone. We're going to need a lot of people. That thought is gone. This is no different than in the last industrial revolution.

Somebody goes, boy, that building really looks heavy. Nobody says that. Wow, that mountain looks too. big nobody says that right everything that's too big too heavy takes too long those thought those ideas are all gone reduced to creativity that's right what can you come up exactly which means now the question is how do you how do you work with these agents well it's just a new way of doing computer programming in the few in the past we code in the future we're gonna write ideas architectures

specifications we're gonna organize teams we're gonna help them define how to evaluate the definition of good versus bad. What does it look like when something is a great outcome? How to iterate with you, how to brainstorm. You know, says guy that sells shovels says you should spend 50% of your salary on shovels. But of course, Jensen's point is generally correct, which is that you should give your best people a lot of leverage. Yeah, I do wonder what the like leverage ratio is in other industries. if you're a crane operator and you're making, I don't know, if you should give him the best possible crane.

Yeah, like is it possible that if you're operating a $10 million crane or something, I don't know how much a crane costs, or like a cargo ship that's ferrying oil across the world? How much does that crew cost? And then how much does the ship cost? And then what's the depreciation on that ship? Because it might be like a $100 million ship that will last 20 years. So you're looking at $5 million a year. And if the crew, total cost of the crew is like $1 million,

well then you're actually spending more on the capital asset than the underlying talent, and you're getting leverage on top of that. And for a long time, software engineering has not been that. It's been, you know, $100 worth of internet and a couple thousand dollars on a MacBook and a lot of open source software because you're using Python and Linux and these things.

And, I mean, I guess you could maybe burden like your cloud budget once you actually deploy the app. Like if you think about if you're a Facebook engineer or Instagram engineer, you could push a feature that consumes a ton of compute. But this is also going back to like the AI Talent War where you get back into, if you're a elite software engineer and you're like, look, I'm going to be in charge. I'm going to be managing half a million dollars worth of token budget over the next year. well, I want comp that's higher than that or something like that.

It'll be very interesting to see how the value works there. A reasonable ballpark for the annual cost of a fully loaded cargo ship is around $4 to $18 million, so including the cash operating cost plus the depreciation. So I don't know. In other news, the U.S. Department of Justice announced yesterday three charged with conspiring to unlawfully divert, cutting-edge U.S. AI technology to China. The indictment unsealed today details alleged effort to evade U.S. export laws through false documents, staged dummy servers to mislead inspectors and convoluted transshipment schemes in order to obfuscate

the true destination of restricted AI technology, China, said John Eisenberg, Assistant Attorney General for National Security. These chips are the product of American ingenuity, and NSD will continue to enforce our export control laws to protect that advantage. So the company, SMIC, Super Micro Computer, Inc. They caught him, they caught him red hand. James Wally, he's arrested today or yesterday. He personally holds half a billion dollars of super micro stock still risked it all and now he's facing 30 years in federal prison. That is crazy. who's charged smuggling billions in NVIDIA servers to China, use Southeast Asian shell company to funnel two and a half billion in servers to Chinese buyers.

500 million worth shipped in just three weeks in spring of 2025. That's a lot. Two and a half billion in servers feels like enough for like a frontier training run. Like that's a big, big, that's a big push. Built thousands of fake dummy servers to fool U.S. compliance auditors, caught on surveillance camera using a hairdryer to swap serial number stickers. And so OX, Gigi says, this man is a billionaire and was removing labels with a hairdryer personally. You're simply not grinding hard enough.

There's always a grind set lesson in any story like this. It's also notable because there's the export tax or tip that you're trying to bring chips out of the country. the U.S. government kind of flips over the square terminal and they say tip, please. 25%. So you're looking at hundreds of millions of dollars, even if these were chips that were able to be exported. We were debating the flipping the iPad around asking for a tip earlier today. And I think our joint stance was if the iPad is turned around, you got a tip. Yeah. It's just the etiquette is that you got a tip. But is there anywhere where that, that line crosses and you say, I can't, I can't possibly push something. Funny thing is Air One asks for tips.

Really? On online orders? Online orders. Wait, but there will be a human delivering it or? No, there's two separate tips. Okay. There's the person in the store who puts the things in the bag and then there's the delivery person.

And they flip it over twice. Yeah. The game theory of this stuff is always hard because I feel like, I don't know, there's regulations on taxes on tips, but it's very unclear if companies actually funnel, how they distribute the tips, like are you tipping the person, are the tips grouped together? Were your tips pooled when you were a valet? Yeah, yeah. They were pooled. So even if you did a great job. I had two jobs at the hotel, the valets, they pool. Yeah. Val staff, the people that like take you down to your room do not pool. Interesting. And that was just the rules. Oh, it's because I might be the one who

parks the car, you might be the one who gets. Well, in a dynamic where you have a bunch of valets that are waiting for cars, it would be a bad experience for the guest if the valets are like, they see a nice car pulling and they're like fighting over themselves to deliver service, right? It should just be like

whoever's available, should deliver the best possible service. Whereas Bell work is much more one-on-one. It's like, I'm kind of your guide on the property. I'm going to like, you know, you might have the person's cell phone. They might be texting you, etc. Interesting.

And so it makes more sense to not pool. When a broker who had bought NVIDIA-powered servers from the Southeast Asian company sent Sonny a text message containing a link to an announcement about Chinese nationals being arrested for smuggling AI chips into China, Sonny allegedly responded with sobbing emotions. Scroll up, scroll up so people can see. Morning Bruce says, hey man, you're probably going to jail. Supermoker, co-founder. Cry, cry, cry emoji.

And scroll down and you'll see Nick Carter, literally this. Your son has passed away. It's the war dog explosion. I'm sorry, but the super micro thing is awful, but parts of it are genuinely hilarious. They literally used a hairdriver to move serial numbers from real servers to dummy servers to throw in a warehouse and got caught on camera. And the pictures have actually leaked. Literally caught red-handed.

Yes, it's a red. It's a red hair dryer. That is remarkable. Trung fan says do things that don't scale. Classic founder energy. In January 20, posted by Beijing based entrepreneur, Suu D on the Chinese social media platform,

Doeen, has sparked significant. Wait, it's literally, you can see, watch this, watch it. Look at that. Rewind for a second. You can see a super micro logo. No way.

Sue Diy on the Chinese social media platform, Doin has sparked significant discussion. In the video, Sue boasts of... Oh my God. That's like the biggest logo for Super Micro ever. Well, Bone

is absolutely correct. And this is from January. No, I'm telling you, like a lot of, I mean, I'm sure the Justice Department were working on this, like, earlier than this. But a lot of times, like, legal action will happen like downstream of, like, YouTube

drama videos. So almost a year and a quarter ago, somebody responded to Bone and says, it's SMIC packaged. And Bone says, do you think SMIC is smuggling chips. Wow. And the...

It's possible. It's a family and business in Taiwan. I won't be surprised if there are some family members who want to make this money by setting up fake shell entities and smuggling chips for business partners in China. Wow. It's good money. Wow. Kevin Kwok has a good meme that everyone enjoyed.

They expect one of us in the wreckage brother. And it's not Jensen. The Bain meme. It's very, very funny. And yeah, the SMIC. founder, I believe, was at GTC just a few days ago. Oh, really? No way.

He was, I saw a picture of him with Jensen. Yeah, until the music stops playing, I suppose. We will be watching Bruce Lee fight Chuck Norris in the way of the dragon, because this is the way that we pay our respects to Chuck Norris, who of course passed away at the age of, I think, 86. And this is one of the most iconic fight scenes in movie history. Have you seen the way of the dragon? Of course you.

This scene was unique. It was set inside Rome's Coliseum, and it was often cited as a turning point for how martial arts were portrayed on screen, particularly because they didn't use actors. So both Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris were legitimately high-level fighters. Norris was world karate champion at the time. They cast him in part because of that,

and it has a much more grounded, credible feel as opposed to like previously more stylized kung fu films and and you can see this with the Bruce Lee actually directed and choreographed this himself so Lee had full control so the director didn't say anything and they do these cool like punch in shots look at this so you're seeing nice wide you can see exactly where he is there's no body double and then we're going to zoom in and then what are we going to do again we're going to zoom in again and so he see his face and he's just sitting there waiting brilliant shot so so much time to breathe and understand and feel what he's feeling.

The music, footsteps, breathing, clothing movement. The cat, of course. Any snakes? Yeah. No snakes, I don't think. I haven't watched the clip. Your camera often stays wide. This stays in contrast to something like the born identity.

Very like fast cuts, close-ups, much easier to get something that feels intense when you're cutting and chopping. It's much harder to make something like this where you see the full body, you see, now we're in slow-mo. They're shodding back. forth. The empty arena gives a gladiatorial vibe, a sense of ritual combat, visually frames the fight as mythic, not just physical, increases his mobility, switches his rhythm. We got to talk over it or else we get demonetized and banned. So, let's move over to Montana. One and only Moonlight Basin. There's a property that made it into the timeline. Ooh, indoor pool. New, okay. This is a new hotel. Got to visit the property a few weekends ago with. I saw some promotional material.

material for this. It is absolutely stunning. I want to have Sam, the founder of Cross Harbor, who's the developer being on the show, because he is, he's basically, in my view, felt like he was the mayor of Big Sky. He's developed and all these incredible properties. He donated to Big Sky, too, just said, here's the hospital. That's cool. For the local community, which is amazing. Does it have zebras? No zebras. Does it have twas? Does it have tortoises? For $5.1 million, this Safari like estate comes with zebras. Oh, you got a solution to my problem.

I need zebras. Animals roam free at California's 137 Oak Hill Preserve, which has a five-bedroom lodge and a helipad. I feel like anything that has zebras and tortoises should be up in the double-ditch. I don't know how much it costs to get a zebra, but you should get like a 10x multiplier on it. Yeah, for sure. So, Brian Craft. It's like having an AI researcher. Visited Africa for the first time.

in the 80s, he said, but his heart never left. He proposed to his now wife, Bernadette Kraft, in a hot air balloon, that's elite. Above the Serengeti National Park. A couple got married in Nairobi, Kenya in 1988, and two decades after taking their three sons to Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe. Brian started wondering how he could bring some of the African experience closer to home. Can I recreate a mini Africa that's a short distance away from our house? thus began a years-long process of developing a roughly 137-acre safari-like sanctuaries in Ione, California. So now approaching the age of 70, Kraft, who is a commercial real estate broker, entrepreneur, and aspiring screenwriter,

is listing the vacation property for $5.1 million. Approximately 15 animals are included in the offering. That's only less than a 10x multiple per animal. Flat two hours right now from San Francisco. but get this. By train, it'll only take you six hours. Wait, did you guys miss this line? It says one of his friends discovered what he believes to be a century old gold mine.

Wait, really? Okay, he's just pranking everyone right now. This is crazy. I think he wanted to just show off his, I think he just wanted to show off his ranch. So he's like, yeah, I'm selling. I'm selling. He's not selling this thing.

There's no way. Zero shot. He just wanted the journal feature. We do need to get this guy on the show. though. He seems like he's just had a great life and a great time. There is a colchie here, which companies will officially announce an IPO this year. Jersey Mikes is running away with it at 73%. Open Ayes at 48%. Anthropics at 42. SpaceX is at 88. Cerebrus is at 91. We got to do the Jersey Mikes IPO.

Jersey Mikes IPO. If they don't get on the New York Stock Exchange, we're not doing our job. We've got to have the founder on the show. Skims at 31%. Stimms, IPO is interesting. Databricks, 22%, Sheen, 21%. Beast Industries at 14%. Anderol at 13%. This is an interesting.

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