TBPN Live - Bezos' Prometheus Raises $12B, America Inc. Moves to Texas, Trucking Rebounds | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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Bezos is getting very serious about the AI game. $12 billion raised for Prometheus. It's just been six months since he emerged from stealth with $6.2 billion in funding. The industrial AI startup, as they're calling it, raised another $12 billion in Series B. It's just a thousand times bigger than a normal Series A and a Series B. You used to go from 6 million Series A, 12 million Series B. Now it's $6 billion Series A, $12 billion Series B. Serious dollars, but AI is expensive.

The valuation, $41 billion. Back in November, there was very little disclosed about Prometheus. We wrote about it a little. There was some speculation on the time. 41? 41 billion. Bigger than what's a $40 billion company? And this is a business that is buying existing companies?

That's the thing. We don't really know. We don't really know. But it's a lot of money. It could be buying companies and trying to transform them. Well, being able to raise that much capital to buy businesses with that little dilution is a pretty remarkable feat that pretty much only Jeff Bezos could pull off. So the Wall Street Journal has some more details. And mostly it just gives you, takes you a little bit more inside the mind of Jeff Bezos and where he's thinking, like how he's thinking about the shape of the AI impact.

The headline is very clear. Bezos bats down AI job loss fears while launching. new venture, new startup Prometheus seeks to build an artificial general engineer. AGEE is the new buzzword. You thought we were at, we thought we were running out of them. We got AI, AGI, A-I-F-D-R-S-I, A-F-D, personal superintelligence, meta-superintelligence, TBD, continual learning. Standard intelligence.

Yep. Your regular intelligence. ineffable intelligence. The irregular intelligence company. Of the dog patch. The dog patch. Something like that. But artificial general engineer is the new phrase, the new term.

And he wants it to be able to design and manufacture complex physical products. So Jeff Bezos expects artificial intelligence to create a labor shortage in the economy. Interesting. There's some correlation between like liquid net worth and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And your projection. And your optimism? Great. Yeah.

So he expects a labor shortage, rejecting fears that fast evolving technology will put humans out of work as he launches a new venture aimed at making engineers more productive. The billionaire founder of Amazon.com, and don't forget Blue Origin, is co-leading a new AI business called Prometheus, which plans to build an artificial general engineer that can design and manufacture complex physical products such as a jet engine. He said in an interview that the company, The company's goal is to, quote, empower engineers and make innovation easier and faster so smaller teams can do much bigger things on much shorter time cycles. That'd be good. It takes forever to build a jet engine. It takes forever to build a plane.

We've talked to multiple founders that have been trying to build new plane designs for decades and haven't really been able to scale them up, although they've made incredible gains and traction and demos. Actually getting new planes on the runway safely approved has been far too low. long if AI speeds it up by 10%. That's like years. It's crazy. The Amazon and Blue Origin co-founder technology leaders that have jumped into the AI fray. You got Uber co-founder Travis Kalanick, Coinbase co-founder Brian Armstrong, Robin Hood co-founder Vlad Tenet. Also, Brian Chesky over at Airbnb, these folks are all building new companies around the AI boom, among others. Prometheus, which said it is valued at about $41 billion, has raised $12 billion from investors, including Bezos, J.P. Morgan, Chase, Goldman Sachs, and BlackRock went straight to the big banks.

Yeah. Like, invest VCs are just like, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, there's another world where doing six on 40 billion is just like your IPO. Totally. Yeah, that is IPO numbers. That's, yeah, that's a crazy amount of money. Yeah, you've got to go to the banks for this. They've hired 150 people across San Francisco, London, and Zurich.

Interesting. Despite Silicon Valley's enthusiasm for AI's promise, the broader population has become very wary fearing widespread job losses. Some of the pessimism about AI among young people is the opposite of reality, Bezos said. And we've been seeing this in the jobs numbers, like the job, the economy is running hot, inflation is high, but also unemployment is very low, lower than expected. We're adding a lot of jobs. AI will mean fewer workers are needed in jobs that exist today, but it will also create

far more opportunities and increase productivity, he said. That's a very white-pilling statement. Bezos argued that if AI makes it cheaper, faster, and easier to invent things, employment will ultimately rise because even though you're shrinking the number of people needed by 10x, the technology will create more than 10x as many opportunities. And he certainly saw that with Amazon. The number of store workers in physical retail stores probably shrunk, but the number of entrepreneurs building products, selling them on Amazon,

in and around the Amazon ecosystem, not just in the warehouse, but in the broader Amazon ecosystem probably increase. And we certainly saw that in the broad job numbers in the United States. Like the labor market has grown unequivocally since 1999. We've added jobs all over the place as people have shifted around. There's going to be two earner income households where one earner drops out of the labor pool because there's going to be so much productivity, he said. That's an interesting take.

He's saying that there's going to be so much more productivity that some people will choose not to work. And of course, that won't necessarily show up in the unemployment rate because the unemployment rate only measures people that are actively looking for jobs. So you could have a world where the workforce is shrinking in terms of the number of people that have typical jobs is declining. But the unemployment rate is also very low because you have more single earner households, one person working, making more than enough money to support the whole family. Sort of an older school mindset carkins back to, you know, the maybe apocryphal stories about the mid-20th century, but certainly an optimistic view nonetheless. Yeah, it's notable. Neat levels have been rising since 2021. That's not employed in education or training. Not in employment.

So that trend started well before the current AI paradigm. but wouldn't be surprised if it continues hopefully for the reasons that Bezos is talking about. I think there's going to be a lot of focus on his summer plans, John. I think there's going to be more scrutiny than ever. This is a guy that can hardly jet around the Mediterranean on a big boat without being photographed every single day. And this was prior to these back-to-back, you know, multi-billion dollar rounds. And so going into the summer, I think people are going to be paying extra attention, right?

is he doing back-to-back days at the beach club, or is he keeping it to a four-hour window on Saturday, locking back in by Saturday night, getting a good night's sleep, spending his Sunday, you know, preparing for the coming week, right? He does have a co-CEO. Maybe they've split it up. Most people would think co-CEO is like they're both involved in every decision.

Maybe it's more of like a he takes the winter and fall quarters and the other co-CEO takes the summer and spring. Like if you divide it up that way, No one's ever tried that with a co-CEO, just like you run the company for six months, then I run the company for six months, and you're completely off on vacation, maybe? Yeah, yeah, the alternative is, you know, Bezos would say, like, Friday from 7 p.m. until 2 a.m. on Saturday, I'm not going to be super available, super online. And then also from 2 a.m. until around 11 a.m., I'll be fully, fully offline.

Okay. then there's about a one hour window on Saturday where you can take like a lunch break or whatever you need to do. But then from 1 p.m. until 2 a.m. Sunday, I'm going to be offline again. But back, you know. Maybe if you're co-ceeos, you should just do, I'm CEO of TBPN on the odd hours and you're on the even hours. And so if there's a big decision that comes down. Is that the secret to nonstop productivity and seven-day work?

Interlace them. Yeah. So, oh, it's 3 a.m.? Call Jordy. Oh, it's 4 a.m.? Call John. Co-CEo's working out. They held talks to raise a hundred billion dollar fund, which is a lot of money. We'll talk about SpaceX in a bit, but SpaceX is looking for 70 billion, and it's a huge business with so much attention.

This is an entirely new thing, and they want to put $100 billion to work. But, of course, Bezos has plenty of money to backstop it, anchor it, do whatever he needs, and he has massive connections. So the Wall Street Journal reported this, and they said the goal was with that fund to acquire manufacturing businesses and deploy AI across their operations. Remember, we did that whole list of, like, what could they actually buy for $100 billion? What would be a good buy? And there were some very interesting, like, you could buy like Goodyear, for example,

and work on tire manufacturing. And I think I was wrong in all my predictions. But it was an interesting exercise to just take a little tour of the American manufacturing industry. But my read on it is some combination of like a foundation model that allows you to generate full products, full products, basically, like product specs, designs, et cetera, to high fidelity.

And then something like a send cut send style infrastructure where you can just make that product on the fly and get it delivered. And that is the moment we're in right now where on your computer you can make at least an image of anything you want in the entire world, but then

there hasn't been that much of a speed up on the other side, right? And so closing the loop there is going to be very, very cool. This company, Prometheus, is bigger than AIG, the insurance company. Bigger than CBRE, the real estate company. Are you on companiesmarketcap.com? I'm not a Manchester B.D. Bigger than Bidu?

Wow. That is crazy. John, do you think that they're going to be punished for their hubris and chained for eternity with an eagle? The nominate of determinism of Prometheus is sort of crazy, right? Yeah. Chained up for eternity, eagle comes, eats his liver every day. Isn't Prometheus, like, the third time an AI company has done this? Because there was the Prometheus Data Center at Meta.

There was a company called Icarus, too. I got in trouble for that one because I was talking to a New Yorker reporter about that and sort of overstepped a little bit because I was like, they have a great team. I'm rooting for them. So I think we need another company named Hercules, right? Because Hercules saves Prometheus. He frees him from the chains. Okay.

But then Hercules. Is there a company called Hercules? That's a good company name. I like that one. Yeah, that's free from chat. But yeah, so if raised, it would be the latest in a series of investors buying established companies and using AI to improve productivity and margins. We've seen a couple of these funds roll out, the AI roll-ups, AI modernization, private equity firms.

Obviously, private equity firms themselves are doing this. But no one's come in with $100 billion. You're in a completely different tier from all the other companies that are doing this. AI's advances have paved the way for, quote, a multitude. of golden ages, not just one. Happening simultaneously, Bezos said. He said, this is the best time to start a company. I love the optimism.

It's very easy. You can buy strategy, micro strategy, and Prometheus are roughly the same, value the same, as well as coin. Micro strategies in sort of a rough spot, right? Isn't Bitcoin down? No, it's a good, I mean, it's an interesting, it's an interesting bet, right? What do you want to, what do you want to buy? What do you want to own at $41 billion?

Yeah. Microtetrategies at 42, technically. Yeah. You can buy Reddit. That's $33 billion. Anyway, the next story we got to talk about is gamers are rising up. Gamers are rising up. You heard that the government was trying to put gyms in airports.

The gamers had something to say. They're pushing back. Airport lounges are catering to gamers. The airport lounges where video games are more important than drinks. Travelers can kill time, play everything from Mario Kart to Minecraft before their flight. We've got to do this. Get a little rust going next time we're flying? Before we dive into this, has TSA gotten better, more consistent?

I have a hot take on this. I think TSA might be goaded. I think they're pretty dialed. I think it's good. Out of the last maybe 30 flights, I have not waited more than 30 minutes in a security line. Yeah. And that makes, like, commercials obviously still. Torture.

Torture. It's sort of a, it's sort of a, amoehenian punishment. Humiliation ritual, but that being said, being able to plan on a 30-minute security line makes commercial travel Pretty yeah pretty pretty pretty pretty I mean it was the bud of every comedian's joke because it's so universal everyone's been through TSA it's very slow take your shoes off there's a million little places for comedy gold that's highly really don't have to take your shoes off Yeah, you don't have to even take your laptop out no it's it's getting back and there's like I mean I guess it's getting more surveillance because they take a photo of you like 17 times on the way through. You can refuse that, though. You can just say no?

Nick does that. You can just say no? But then don't they pat you down and stuff? They don't, they used to about, I would, I will say about two years ago, they would tell you more frequently, like it's optional. Yeah. It's optional. Okay.

Now they're just like photo now. Okay. And you can read the text and it says like you can opt out? Okay. Can you opt out of the whole thing? Is it all just like a high agency test? You can just be like, actually, I just want to go around. I don't even want to go through the metal detector.

and they're like, yeah, right this way, sir. No one's ever thought to break out of the Matrix, but you reached the final level. You reached based reality. Good job. Continue. Yeah, but truly being able to plan on, it's going to take me like 30 minutes to get through.

You can like comfortably show up 45 minutes before your flight. Yeah, reliable. Make it every time. Every time. Every time. Which means that you're pushing it even more to them. Oh, yeah. Oftentimes I will be getting through security.

Yeah, yeah. And John will text and be like, just got my car. I'll be there. I'll be parking in 45 minutes. And I'm like, I thought I was cutting it a little bit close. But mandate of heaven, you always make it. I always make it. And if you're not missing flights at least like 10% of the time,

you're actually, you're not cutting it close enough. No. But you have to be taking some level of risk or else you're just wasting time. No. Yes. No, because oftentimes the thing that you were doing, your goal is to never invest in a company that goes down. Oh, you're a VC.

But if you get a single zero in your portfolio, you can never invest ever again. Would you do that? No way. No way. No way. I'm not engaging. No way.

So you're going to have some zeros in your portfolio. You're going to miss some flights. But on average, your DPI is going to be quite good, which is? No, but the expected, yeah, comparing, comparing that to something with something. This is where the argument goes. I can just have as much fun at the airport. So I don't mind showing up five hours early. No, no.

But okay, if you miss your flight and then the next flight is like three hours, then like, yes. It doesn't math out because like if you just get your flight 10 minutes like a little bit earlier, then it'll like match. I think it makes sense. So basically like, like let's say I fly once a week and I save an hour with my strategy. That's 50 hours a year and I only miss one flight. I save like 25 minutes.

And you're not like saving the time. I am. I am. You were probably, you were probably at. You were probably at your, just like having another coffee at the hotel and or having a conversation that you could just have. No, I was literally. And now, before I go to the airport, I am literally locked in at the clock factory, okay? I'm locked in at the clock factory.

I'm being the most productive I've ever been. Making clocks. I'm making clocks, clock by clock. And you think that that time's useless. Okay. Now you can be gaming at the airport. Yeah. So I should get there away or wait.

I should get there. I should get, if I want a prestige on Cod, I should get there maybe like 70, two hours early. Yeah, John, you're just like, yeah, I got to get up at 2 a.m. this morning. Like, I got like a super early flight. They're like, oh, what times your flight? 11 a.m. 11 a.m.

Like, yeah. Is this a coincidence? GTA 6 dropped and you're going to the airport 10 hours early? Well, now you can because airport lounges are starting to cater to gamers. Gamers are the most important constituency. We're going to have a gamer president. one day. The first thing that David Lee and Cassie Yang noticed when they popped into the new lounge in Terminal 1 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport on Friday wasn't a robot bartender,

which they have apparently. I believe Ben will be traveling through Minneapolis-St. Paul. We should give him a little gaming challenge, see if he can get to prestige on Cod before he hits his flight. It was something only parents in this digital device era could appreciate unfettered access to their phones. Their kids, eight and twelve, were busy playing Mario Carton Crash Bandicoot at the Lounge's video game stations to commandeer their phones for some pre-flight screen time. The Portal Lounge is by design, not your grandfather's airport lounge. Yes, there is a small buffet and bartenders, robot and reel that pour that lounge libation staple an old-fashioned. The focus is on entertainment. They're gaming.

It's the latest concept from a husband and wife team on a mission to amp up. airport downtime. Emma and Jordan Wallbridge, with backgrounds in hotels and medical device sales, respectively, opened their first airport video game lounge at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport in 2018, called Gameway. There are now 11 of them at airports across the country, and two more due to open this year. Portal in Minneapolis is the latest iteration of a concept with a few more bells and whistles. They zeroed in on video games after regularly visiting lounges on business trips and finding them to stay. I always felt like I was in a library, Emma says. with some guests slushing others and throwing shushing others and throwing side-eye.

Like the light, this picture makes me feel like I'm a television screen. Oh, because they're looking at you like you're... With the control. You're the game. Yeah, interesting. I think this is going to be more successful than like the whole airport gyms movement. I think so. Like, every once in a while, somebody will post online.

Why don't airports have gyms? There's been a few moments where it would have a gym. but imagine a world where even just 5% of your flight had just gotten off of an hour on the treadmill and was getting on the flight. Pretty brutal. Pretty heavy. There's some heavy breathing going on.

I don't know. But it's also trucking season. The four-year U.S. trucking slump is officially over, says the Wall Street Journal. It's over at last. Truckers who held on through almost four years of slumping freight rates finally have something to celebrate. It feels like a breath of air for an industry that maybe felt like they were running out of air.

Trucking executives are calling an end to one of the longest freight downturns in carriers' memory. They say rates have risen to more sustainable levels after a period of low earnings coupled with Trump administration crackdowns and immigrant drivers, pushed many carriers out of the market. Logistic managers index, a monthly survey of supply chain managers showed transportation prices increased in May at the fastest rate for any metric. in the report's 10-year history. So if you scroll down, yeah, that chart is crazy. So good news for the truckers, of course, this is going to push up, you know, prices and inflation potentially,

but it is good to have a healthy trucking industry, a healthy dry van spot rate, which I'm sure you've been following intently. Dry van spot rates for the week of June were up 5,200 basis points. Let's go. 52% year over year, excluding fuel surcharges, according.

to a report. So the fuel prices get passed through, but the economy is doing well, and so prices for dry van spot rates are increasing. As he said, because the stronger freight market over the last few months, the nationwide company is increasing its fleet of more than 10,500 trucks and expanding its pool of about 11,000 drivers. What is driving this? This has been a supply-driven freight recovery as opposed to a demand-driven freight recovery. Turnaround comes after four years in which carriers have been squeezed by a combination of too many trucks on the road and not enough loads. Drivers rushed into the industry during the pandemic. So there was a boom in online ordering, shipping, all the different things that happened during COVID. Consumer demand drove freight rates

to record highs. Rates plummeted in 2022, forcing hundreds of thousands of smaller carriers out of business. Many truckers held on even as cost for drivers, and insurance rose. The exodus accelerated over the past year, and trucking specialists say the industry has finally found in equilibrium where the supply of trucks is low enough to lift rates, which will, of course, bring more trucks into the market, and rates will adjust, of course, but higher fuel prices due to the war have pushed up trucking companies' expenses, but operators are largely passing along those costs to their customers. We have some breaking news.

What's the breaking news? Ty Moore says on Saturday, we finished construction. of set number two. Set number two. So Ty had built a set for his interview with Elon Musk. Yes. It sounds like they built it in a place that they were only able to occupy for this week. Seven days.

So they're shifting. One hour notice. And that was on June 6th. This is gripping. This was a trending story on X. He says, for the past three months I've been asking myself, a simple question, what would Elon do? Elon would build the rocket and put it on the lawn.

stand before he got approval, he would ask what's the biggest bottleneck to achieving my mission and then go about systematically undoing the bottlenecks until he and his team had made the impossible happen. A maniacal sense of urgency is our operating principle. And so he has built yet another set that I think can last a full month and hopefully he lands the interview. He's incredibly pumped up for this and the meta story of him building this set has done better than most podcasts. There's more views on... John, I want to read the summary of the book about the story of Time Wars getting you on his podcast.

Like 7,500 people, 2 million people watch the video about the set. And so you do have this a dynamic where the meta story is more interesting or it's by default more interesting because the interview hasn't actually happened. But there are plenty of Elon interviews at this point, like he does a lot of interviews, that don't go super viral. Like he did this interview with Jamie Diamond, and I think that's fully recorded. I think you can just search it and watch it.

But I don't know that that's something that like everyone in tech saw and everyone in tech talked about. But this is a story people are talking about, the meta story. And people love to see bold moves. People love to see building and all these crazy things and risk taking and all of that is on display. And so Ty Morse is getting a lot of attention. So good luck to him. Godspeed, Ty. Texas is America's new center of gravity, says the economist, Exxon's reincorporation.

They were in Texas. They left Texas. They went back to Texas. There's one more feather in the state's cowboy hat, says the economist. This is a hilarious, hilarious song lyric. Just when I thought I got him to fall in love with Tennessee, I should have known better than to take him back to Abilene. Abilene, Texas. They were singing about data centers in Ella Langley's Choosing Texas,

a song that has ranked near the top of America's music charts throughout 26. Some of those listens may be coming from policymakers elsewhere in the country. Much like Ms. Langley, they are losing to Texas. On May 27, Exxon Mobil shareholders approved a plan to cut the oil giant's ties with New Jersey and reincorporated in Texas where it has long had its headquarters. It's not alone, according to CBRE, a property firm, at least 1804 companies shifted their headquarters to Austin, Dallas, or Houston, between 2020 and 2025. Among them, Tesla, a car company, and Caterpillar, a maker of construction equipment. Texas is steadily establishing itself as America Inc's new center of gravity.

No state receives more business investment or is adding more people to its population. from 2020 to 2025, it created roughly a fifth of all net new jobs in the country. In the early 2020s, Texas was luring remote workers fleeing high taxes, exorbitant house prices and bad policies in America's coastal metropolises while benefiting from the Biden administration subsidies for green energy and chipmaking facilities. Now the state's dominance and energy has made it a major beneficiary of the data center boom. Meanwhile, its technology and finance ecosystems have been deepening. This summer, it will ring its full.

stand-alone burst, the Texas Stock Exchange, joining outposts of the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ already operating in the state. Donald Trump has called the New York Stock Exchange's new branch an unbelievably bad thing for his hometown of New York, even if his social media venture was the first business to list on it. So that's a very funny thing. But, you know, he was obviously giving that in the context of, like, New York is defined by its exchanges and in the context of just New York, the city, losing out to Texas or New York State, losing out to Texas in any way is bad for that state, I suppose. The state's appeal is to Yuppies. To Yuppies is growing with every stream of a country song.

I've been listening to a lot of country songs. Joe Wisenthal plays in a country band, blues band. People ask, dream guest. Yeah. And I tell him, dream performance. Oh, yeah. Joe Wysenthal, acoustic set. Ooh, unplugged?

Unplug. Tiny desk. The tiny desk. What if we set him up with a slat wall set? We got to get Roger from Kandai Nast. He can jam. Yeah, but a little slat wall set. Yeah.

And he can just play. And an SM7B podcast microphone on the guitar. That might be the trick. Might be the trick. To understand its ascendancy, start in Houston, heart of the Texan energy industry. It's oil and gas barons.

They've been raking in profits as a result of the Iran war. But over the past, the state has also become a hub for green energy. This year, it's expected to build two-fifths of all utility scale solar in America, a technology for which its wide-open flatlands are ideal. Interesting. Anyway, leave us five stars on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Sign up for our newsletter at TBPN.com, and we will see you tomorrow for the SpaceX IPO. We're going to just be hanging out. We're hanging out, no guess. We're going to have the stock price

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