TBPN Live - We Review ‘You Can See Everything’, Tesla Unveils Rocket Powered-Roadster | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: October 17, 2026

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Why do you call it the capital of capital, Jordan? Why do you feel that way? Why do you think that way? We're of course referring to you can see everything, the fun Nathan Fielder movie that we saw yesterday, where he always asks the follow-up question, asks, why do you feel that way? Why do you say that again and again and again?

She never hit him with the why questions are over-determined. She should have hit him with the why questions are over-determined. That would have been the truck card that just a... Got him. Yeah, he would have been... Nathan Fielder. He would have been stunned-locked. He would have been stun-locked, yeah. But a Nathan Fielder PT crossover would be incredible. That's the next movie they got to do.

Deep-diving the Antichrist figuring out all the questions there, that would be so cool. That is, I think, the only way that you could one-up this. Yeah, no. So, I mean, it's maybe even too inside baseball, right? Because this was such a big story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone knows and they'd seen the show and stuff. But, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty much a 10 out of 10 on the movie. I thought it was fantastic. I really, really enjoyed it. We went with a bunch of folks, and thanks to everyone that came out and hung out with us. It was a great time.

And it had a big impact on us. We ditched the IEMs. Yeah. We're going to be using these headphones now going forward. We're also going to be shooting like this. Yes. The whole show. Cinematography was incredible.

There's a lot of debate going on in the studio on how much VFX was involved, how much cinematography and actual lighting equipment was involved, because every shot is beautiful. It's perfectly lit. And yet they're in these tight spaces, this small beach house in Del Mar, and it looks incredible. And my thesis is that just the cameramen are as good at what they do as what Nathan Fielder does. Like they are just experts of their craft. They use the best tools. They got incredible cameras, incredible lenses. And they went in there and they shot it beautifully, even with some crazy lighting at times.

They figured out how to make it amazing. And maybe there's color grading after the fact, but I was, I'm sort of skeptical of the theory that, like, before every scene, they went and set up a bunch of 10 by 10 diffusion and shot a bunch of light through. Maybe there's some stuff going on outside pushing through windows, but it seemed pretty natural to me. And I think they're just really good at making it look beautiful. Yeah, it was masters at work. Yeah, across the entire production. Everyone involved, even the A24 people who, I think they cast them, they cast actors. I don't want to spoil anything, but there's some A24 references that are fun, and everything about it is incredible.

So, highly recommend going and seeing it. Probably stay a spoiler-free if you can because it's a fun wild ride. Yeah, the thing is that I think you could know exactly what happened. Yeah. And it would still be wildly entertaining. 100%. Like the whole concept is just so absurd. Yeah.

It is, if you followed Nathan Fielder across his career, this makes sense as a natural progression. Totally. And yet at the same time, it's unbelievable that all these different pieces came together. Yep. And various groups agreed to do something like this being Billy and Elizabeth. Yeah. It is just almost unbelievable. Yeah.

When the trailer came out, a lot of people were asking like, why would she agree to do this? And I really think it's like you're serving 11 years in prison. There's nowhere to go but up. Yeah. Your view was like there's no real downside, all upside. Yeah. And I think people will come away from this generally having a lot more, like, regardless of you think she was guilty or not, you're going to come away. You're going to come away feeling bad for her and the whole situation, right?

The days and days and days of scenes with her and her children, these shots, the final shot before prison where she's. says she does her, you know, is pumping breast milk for the children saying, like, bring it back. Are you guys laughing at the framing or just what you already say? I'm so confused. Sorry, it's very distracting. Okay. Liz Wessel, ramp investor over at first round, big news from Ramp. Eric Clyman's coming on the show today.

But she took 150 founders, investors, and builders to an early screening of the movie. She polled 16 of them. And 14 out of 16 came away saying they are more positive. on Liz Holmes. Doesn't mean their fans, just means that they thought less negatively of her. That sounds like it worked.

14 out of 16. So she took 150 people. Very odd methodology, Liz. I mean, nice that you did this. It's interesting content, but you should have pulled off 150. But instead she pulled 16, sort of casually,

and she asked them some basic questions. Do you feel better or worse about Elizabeth Holmes after seeing this film? 14 said more positive. Only one said more negative. and one didn't change. But all 16 said they felt more negative about Billy,

and there's some other data there that will kind of leave. But you can go check it out. Anyway, don't miss it. Go see it this weekend. The spoilers are just going to keep trickling out. And it's just fun seen in a packed theater because everyone's laughing at different moments. Everyone's gasping at different moments.

Yeah, the film was effectively a psychedelic experience. Yeah. In many ways. Yeah. Like it was river. It was, like, you know, funny at these... The cuts? The production is just so funny. We're dying back here.

I'm glad we have this tool now. But no, no, I agree with you. Someone just texted me and said, apparently... What? What did they text you? Apparently, my wonderful wife texted the team telling them the show is messed up. Super zoomed in. That's hilarious.

I will be going back to see it. I'm seeing it tonight again. You are with them? Amazing. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, we'll be going back as soon as possible. But the whole thing was, yeah, completely psychedelic in my experience. And just a very, it was kind of strange for me because two hours into the movie, there was a fire that got started somewhat near my house.

And so I started getting calls and texts about that. And then I ended up kind of like my attention ended up trailing off. So I have to go see it again. But really an incredible work of art. Yeah. Instant classic. Instant classic. Yeah. Very, very fascinating. Well, I think we can zoom out. This is a tool that we can have in the tool chest. We can go back to the normal lighting and the normal level of zoom because I got a big reveal because what am I wearing today? I got the Felper to get award because your boy put down $5,000 hard-earned dollars on a Tesla Roadster reservation two days ago. And I think I got to refund it because the debt. M-O's incredible, but it's not starting production until 2028. I was under the assumption that this was the launch of the Roadster,

that this was not the reveal that maybe I just read the tweets wrong and I wasn't dialed in or something, but I thought it was like, okay, this is the start of production. Like they're producing them now. They're going to show what's happening, show the final design, and then be like, yeah, and the people that have been waiting seven years, they're getting theirs next month, and then a couple months later. And if you just signed up six months...

Going into production, so first of all, I'll start by saying absolutely incredible feats. Insane. Amazing show. Absolute cinema. Wonderful that they're doing this. There's a bunch of stuff that I really love about it. But dropping, like, the car will be going into production in 2028, which is like completely

insane. That's how I thought. It was rough. I want a fun Tesla now. Like, that self-driving technology is so cool. I just want it now. If you gave Tesla a quarter million dollars in 27, Yeah. And if you would just put that in the S&P, you would be, you would have multiples of that by now.

Yeah, you'd be aware. And then there's this big event. The event gets delayed again. Yeah. Two weeks. And then, yeah, we're making the car, but it's going to be going into production in 2020, which easily means it could be like. Could be delayed. It could be, well, no, I just like, it could be getting deliveries in the very end of 2028. Yeah. I mean, you could start production December 20th, 2028, and that's not a violation. And then production. And then production. could run for like four years. So if you're later in the queue, it could take a long time. That happens with special cars all the time. Elite. Elite. We lost. We lost. But the other thing is that it just felt like they re-raised the stakes so much by being like, we're going to put cold gas thrusters and rockets on it. It's going to be able to do kicklips. It's like, okay, that's a lot to

work. Yeah. All you had to do is beautiful car that goes fast. Yeah. Beautiful car that goes fast. I was trying to, I was trying to imagine. So the reason that you do this now, even though the car is not actually ready to announce at all, is pressure from the probably 10,000 plus people that reserved this car a long time ago. It's getting kind of annoying. You feel like I'm not delivering on something that I said. And two, to kind of like make the Tesla SpaceX merger, like start to build towards that. I like that. That feels like why you would do this now. Otherwise, like, you don't need to announce a car that you're not making for two years? Yeah, when they open the car door for one of the cars, because I think some of the cars don't have seeds, some of them do, some of them

can be drivable, some of them can just do kickflips. There's a whole variety of products that they're demoing, and then they'll bring everything together over the next two years, hopefully. But when they open the door and they're like, there's someone inside, it's Spaceman, he's in the spacesuit. It's like, okay, that's a SpaceX product in there as well. It's not just the thrusters. And then I was expecting almost like an Optimus in there, but I forgot that Optimus is technically a Tesla project, not a SpaceX project, but it feels like a SpaceX project now because it's SpaceX AI or SpaceX SI. And so when I think of like robotics and artificial intelligence, I think SpaceX more than Tesla now. So it's like these these companies just are destined to

be. The contrast between how incredible like the show and the spectacle was and the demo and the technology with like the delivery from Elon and the two other guys. Oh yeah. A lot of dead air. Like the most awkward delivery. and so many of these kind of semi-awkward moments. Yeah. We got to play the actual video. Let's talk about everything that we love about it. Okay.

Also, predictions. Because if you remember yesterday in the show, I predicted that it would be able to lift off the ground. I said something like six feet. It clearly does more than six feet. That was my prediction. I did not predict ramps. I said ramps everywhere.

Ramps everywhere. And that's exactly what we got. I mean, it's just one big ramp, but it's effectively ramps everywhere based on. I think this totally counts. sane that it can go upside down like that. The McMurti Spurling can actually do something similar with just fans. Should we do a tier list?

Sure. Sure. Okay, I like this. Let's get a tier list going. Okay. Okay, juvenile, I'm going to start with juvenile humor. All the jokes about all the sucking-related jokes. I'm going to put those at F-tier.

F-tier. Completely unnecessary. Okay. Yeah, the childish humor is F-tier. What about just the fact that it went on the ramp? up to the top before it did the kickflip. That is so insane. That is S-tier.

Yeah. The thing about watching it is even seeing it live. Yeah. Part of, I think it was amazing, super smart that they had a live audience and everyone there to see it and all this stuff. But because it is, like, looks like it's breaking the laws of physics, it just, it doesn't feel real just for that reason. So, which is, which is, what tier are you putting? That's S-tier. Okay.

Breaking the perceived laws of physics. Okay. So the kick clicked off the ramp in the chat says I expected more. What did you expect? You'd gall post in the atmosphere, in the stratosphere. What are you doing? That's crazy. What about the rumor that it will be able to beat an F1 car on the time?

Okay. This is what I love. Okay. The flying stuff is cool but irrelevant. if you're a buyer of this vehicle because I think they maybe ship it to a handful of friends of Elon, some influencers. I'm thinking people like Whistling Diesel maybe gets... You know that Tesla hates him, right?

Is it a cyber truck thing? Oh, right. Oh, yeah. No, he is. Okay, so not Whistling Diesel, but maybe some like car influencers and they do some demos. But it was very clear during the thing, as he started saying, I was like writing some of this stuff down before they actually released these like specs. But he says, not sure it'll be legal in all jurisdictions, but it will be a,

car that someone can own. And so I'm just thinking, okay, it's like a not a road legal car. Yeah. And so all the flying stuff, completely irrelevant to people like you and me that put down a deposit to actually get a car. So Ron DeSantis chimed in and said, like, we're going to make this thing legal in Florida. And I think it's actually pretty easy to, what? Isn't that amazing? I do not. As much as I want flying cars, I don't want to be in traffic with someone that has this capability? But what if it's, what if it's geo-fen? That's just because they're going to mug you. Oh, that's because you would be getting mocked.

Watch out. What about, would you be okay if it was, there's never been an explosion of the tank? It's a very highly pressurized 10,000 PSI tank, and it's geofenced so that if you're on a public road, you cannot

take off, you cannot engage the cold gas thrusters, but you can just drive it like a sports car. But one of these pulls up next to you, yes, there is a highly pressurized tank there, but the software is limiting it on street roads. Are you okay with that? Anyone will be able to jailbreak it with Codex out of the box. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's just, it's the way that it works currently, it gives you one and a half to two seconds. Yeah.

Of air time. There's no real utility to it. It's purely... What if a bridge collapses? And you need to get... Yeah, there is a video. We do have a video of that. We should pull it up. Yeah, the ultimate usefulness. But I think that there are two real utilities, and this was a tech demo that could fork into two paths. And maybe both. Maybe it'll try and do both. But one is, what if, yes, this is the real most likely scenario where you'll want this car.

You're driving along a very long bridge, and it explodes down, and you engage the cold gas thrusters, and you save your life. What is your life worth? A couple of years on a Tesla roadster waiting list and $250,000 of your hard-earned cash in Tesla's bank account. Easy price to pay. Anyway, there's a fork in the road right now. And I think Tesla's trying to do both. And they might see. By the way, in 89, the Bay Bridge had a bunch of damage.

Does this happen? Someone did drive off the cliff. That's crazy. Okay. And it was fatal. And that's only 89. So, yeah, our infrastructure is crumbling, right? We haven't re-industrialized yet.

This is a good value problem. That's value prop number one. Value prop number two is, I think this car can actually, if they really design it for it, do a sub five-minute Nuremberg ring. I think that with the fans and the thrusters, when you're on the straits, you're actually a rocket car. You're never leaving the ground, and it's designed to keep you on the ground. So it's sucking you to the ground, so you're going around the corners really fast, and you're effectively in Porsche 919 Evo territory with a car that's like,

from a manufacturer. And I don't know if it's road legal, but I think that they might put up like an actually insane track performance from this thing. Yeah, by teasing the lot time at Kota, that was like the best Easter egg of the whole thing.

Exactly. Because, again, there's two ways to view yesterday's demo. There's just like shock and awe. It's crazy. Colt of Elon's amazing. The car's flying, all that stuff. And then there's like, I want to get this car or I'm considering buying this car.

what is it actually going to do for me? And creating massive amounts of downforce and being able to put up F1 style lap times is insane and is very exciting. And actually, the things that they kept hinting at were like, this is a driver's car. And that's what I loved, right? And I think that a lot of the people

that have reservations will be excited about that. And so that obviously was just like a minor detail compared to the whole circus. But that's what I think is actually cool because no other car manufacturer would do this in that way, nor would they add the thrusters to the rear to help with that zero to one time. Yeah. There's a lot of questions that you immediately start having of like,

do you think tires would last like one lap if you're pushing it on at Cota? Yeah. Like it would probably, like they would probably just be completely shredded after a single lap. I think it's just get the record, just max the record. It's like zero 60 times. And then I was starting to think about it. I'm like, tracks will 100% ban these from public track days. Can you imagine, like, your average roadster owner just, like, heading down to their local racetrack and being like, I'm going to go out for a public session.

And they're just, like, driving, like, an absolute banshee. He was gesturing towards, like, flying car, flying car. Flying cars here. And, yeah, I can only fly for two seconds. But you could see a world where you are actually able to deploy this as a flying car adjacent technology. it's really far from that. But there is a world where, like, my example was like parallel parking or like jumping the car somewhere, like not quite the bridge mode and also not like I'm taking this from

L.A. to San Francisco. No, the obvious use for the thrusters in daily life is two cars are pulling down a street and there's one spot available that you're going to need to parallel park into. If you see somebody pulling up to that, you hit the thrust. just float into the spot. Yeah. You know what actually would have been a really awesome demo? Have you seen those videos of, I think it's I Show Speed, jumping over a Lamborghini that going

full speed at him and he jumps over it? If they'd done that with two roadsters, like the old roadster from 2019 that they never released, like driving straight at it and you're like, it's going to crash and then he goes and jumps over it. That would be cool. Yeah. But I do think that like this is one percent closer to you get in the Jets and future. Like, you get in the car and you say, take me there and it flies you there. Like, there's a lot

that needs to happen. You need actual rockets on board. You need sustained thrust. You need a lot more. But, like, if we were, this is clearly, like, one notch towards, okay, yeah, your car actually just flies you from one place to another. So, I don't know. What do you think that? Only one percent closer. I think this is one. I mean, it goes for two seconds. You're going to be in the car for two minutes. Do we know that? Or, like, the demos were very short. Yeah. And, like, presumably it can't go for 20 minutes, but like, can it go for one minute? Like, did they actually say that? One minute would be 5% of the way there

from a 20 minute flight. And I think you're going to need, I think to be flying car, you're going to need to be in it for like 40 minutes. You're just going to blast off and just coast and land. It launches you with such force. I mean, you only need launching. Then if you have, like, some kind of glider mechanism, then you don't need more thrice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's channeling like the James Bond car. I don't think anything's off the table over the long haul. But again, this is like 10, 20-year vision. And this is not. Like, if I have a car and I'm in a ton of traffic and I can jump over that traffic for like 20 seconds, that counts as a flying car. No? That's a jumping car?

Yeah, that's a jumping car. I only think it was amazing that the mission S launched the same day. Yeah. Because it was like the most beautiful version of stagnation, right, in the Mission S. In that the Mission S is, you know, some combination of the Portia 959 and the GT1. and there's some other influences in there. But fundamentally, it's just like a car that just sort of returns to the kind of cars

that everybody wishes were still being made, right? Like, in some ways, like the interior looks like it could have been done by like a RestoMod company, right? The interior is so good. And it's just going to have like a vanilla-ish V8 is like at least the rumor. And so...

Not V8, but yeah. Flat 8. Maybe. They didn't confirm it, which is crazy. They're both doing vaporware. It is crazy that they've been working on the mission S so long and they can't tell you what type of engine is inside. I think they'll just, they'll, I expect the mission F's to progress a lot more quickly than the roadster. When do you think it actually will be delivered?

I would expect a first one customer delivery, human driving it. I would hope that they go into production next year. Me too. Like at the end of next year. Me too. So like 2028 deliveries. That'd be amazing. But that being said, it was like, it was like stagged.

but it was perfect, right? Like they listened to their customers, which automotive manufacturers have, for better, or worse, not been doing or been sort of unable to. And there was just so many details to that car that are just amazing. Like the almost every single angle is great. I've noticed like everyone has like a different favorite angle. Like there's not like one. Totally. Like to me, you know, the rear end of the car is just like absolutely incredible. Saw some people that didn't like that. Some people like the side. I don't like the side nearly as much as the front and the rear. But regardless, like absolute perfection, but basically zero innovation, right?

Like everything that really draws you in, like the seats, right, and the harness. And the fact that it doesn't have a screen, right? It's all about going backwards in time. And I think that's amazing. And then I think that Tesla pushing the boundaries and like trying to reimagine the car, adding like new forms of propulsion, right? Like the taking us into the future while Porsche just sort of returns in a beautiful way. I thought the contrast was amazing.

And I think that it's okay to like both cars, even though I cancel my order this morning of the roadster. Yes. I felt for it again. I like the design of both. The only thing I don't like about the roadster is just like, I'm worried it's not going to ship. and I think it's just going to take so long because they added so much crazy stuff it'll take forever.

RX says the front of the roadster looks like a Gallardo. I think that looks cool. I think evolving the Gallardo language is great, and I think that Lamborghini has kind of like shirked that responsibility, ceded that territory. So I think this is fine.

There's a little bit of Gallardo in there. There's a little bit of cyber truck in there. I'm in. It's awesome. I think it looks great. Yeah, obviously nowhere near street legal, You need mirrors. We've had this debate a million times. Every concept car takes the mirrors off.

It looks amazing, and then you've got to put them back. And Elon would have figured out how to take the mirrors off of the model Y and the model S if he could, because no one likes the mirrors. No one uses those anymore. But the laws are the laws, and he hasn't been able to figure his way around them, and I don't think it's going to start now. Although that seems like something you get maybe some single-issue voters are behind candidate in 2028. specifically on removing the side mirrors.

Good for emissions, good for aesthetics. It's a win-win. It's a two-party issue. Anyway, what do you think the wing on the back? I think the rear of the vehicle is where it shines. Cool. I think the side profile on the front are horrific. Okay.

But overall, very, very cool. Let's close this out, give you some facts. The Tesla Roadster pricing, you put a $5,000 deposit now, down now, for the default performance level, which does not have the thrusters, the jets, it can't do kickflips, but it is Tesla's fastest, craziest sports car at the moment. That's going to be a $45,000 deposit within 10 days. The thruster model requires you to put $245,000 down for a total of $250,000 within 10 days. Then you've got to wait. And the flight model is unknown, and it's invite only at the moment.

So the thruster model can't do the kickflip. The one that they want to do the kickflip, the one that wants to actually fly. We don't know the pricing. We don't know where that's going to land. I'm actually not that worried about pricing just because SpaceX and Tesla are really good at making things pretty cheap. So if they can get this out and they can get it to be $250, you know, a million dollars, you'll see them and they'll be popular and they'll be cool. Again, the flight stuff feels like very limited and then it's like are you going to have like a new type of track day where you can go do kickflips all day in your car is that is that going to be appealing because well no i'm expecting the gas recharging for the thrusters to take like 24 hours you know so you're

going to i mean it really is it really is a really good party trick yeah but but but after seeing can you imagine the experience of being in the car for a kickflip? it would be extremely violent. But I don't know. Wear a rare helmet and five-point harness or something. Yeah, I don't think, I mean, there wasn't anyone in the car, but I don't even think the inside of the car that the kickflip has seats. I think there's some pictures of the underside,

and it looks like it's basically just all a roll cage. We can pull up this one from Zarin Dub. A lot of my timeline last night were a bunch of suckers who fell for this very expensive parlor trick without asking any questions, and it's quite disappointing. this sort of grid, maybe an empty shell in there. It doesn't really matter. It is a tech demo, but it's not the iPhone moment, because the iPhone, of course, was available after it was announced.

And so, I don't know, it's a very interesting dichotomy. Elon is simultaneously Thomas Edison and Barnum and Bailey. He's the circus entertainer who can, you know, put on a crazy show and talk about what technology will be like in, you know, 10, 20, 30, 40 years. But then he can actually deliver, like, the most popular and successful car in the model Y and become the most popular car in China even and actually land the rockets and get Starlinked to work. I use it on planes.

Like, the technology is real. And then the hype is also fake, but both exist at the same time. And it's very rare to see that in a entrepreneur, in a founder in the modern era. Most people are either all style or all substance. He's both, which is interesting. thing I would say somebody there people were pulling out this post from Elon in like 2019 describing yeah with Marquez describing exactly what the roads were become yeah and there were a bunch of viral post being like oh my gosh we live in a simulation yeah yeah because he just said what he was

going to do and did it it it was so funny because I was like are we live in a simulation because he just said in 2019 I'm going to do this and then eventually and then he did it in a decade later that's not a simulation that's just that's just called playing. That's just a prediction. Wanted to distract you from the absolute disaster that we've had today in the markets. Oh, it's rough. What's going on? Jim Kramer says maybe we clean out this blown up hedge fund and start fresh on Monday.

Okay. So the NASDAQ is down 2.14%. S&P 500 is down 1.09% and the Dow Jones is down just 0.34%. But Kramer called it one of the worst days of the year. Yeah, NASDAQaeda near. biggest weekly loss in more than a year. Tech stocks are falling sharply Friday. Remember, you got this alpha from us yesterday because if you paid attention to the stream, the stream title was sell everything, including your dollars. It's over, over. And it looks like it is,

in fact, over over. But maybe we'll clear out this hedge fund and we'll be back on Monday. We'll see. AI-related shares came under new pressure, pushing the NASDAQ down 2.4%, which leaves the benchmark down 4.7% for the week. If the tech heavy benchmark finishes down more than 4.68%, it will be the worst week since the tariff meltdown. I like that in this Wall Street Journal report, they were hammering this out so fast. They capitalized the THE all caps for some reason. I think it's just a typo, but it lets you know that a human was hammering this out and saying, I'm mad, I'm angry. This is crazy news. Anyway, there's a bunch more stories, but we'll get to them on Monday.

2.6 says wait before you guys go, is Tyler still an intern? Newsflash, Tyler has never actually been an intern. There's always paid. And he dropped out of college like, how long ago? Year ago? I think his original deal, he had to go to school for a decade. So he turned that down, came here. Came back.

But, yeah, I don't actually know your official title. Co-host. Oh, I mean, in the Wall Street Journal, just host. They didn't even hit you with the co. Tyler Cosgrove was featured in the Wall Street Journal. One of us. He made it into the journal. Very, very, it's a big moment.

The first time you get in the print edition, did you actually get the copy of the print edition? Did you see if you made it? We didn't get it delivered that day, so I don't know. Somebody stole it. But I don't think it was in the print edition. Okay, well, we should figure that out. But Tyler is in the Wall Street Journal.

You can go to WSJ.com. Sign up. You can search his name. And he was in the article about Cheeky Pinet. how the tech elite are drinking beers, and Tyler broke it down. Do you have anything else? They sort of,

they sort of mocked you a little bit, didn't they? Well, it's... God of him. Okay. The writer said, he didn't watch the full episode because he has a life,

but Tyler calls him a TV. Yeah, yeah. That's great. Yeah. The Walser Journal said, The journalist said, I didn't watch Chinky Punt because I have life. But this guy over at TBPN, this host, Tyler Cosgrove, did. And so he hit you with the host, hit you with the full name, spelled it correctly, got the name of the show slightly wrong.

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