TBPN Live - We're all Jerome Powell, Apple and Google Make it Official, Anthropic Health Care | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

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First, we got to pay our respects to the big man, Jerome Powell. Pull up the anthem. The anthem. This is this week's anthem. We've been blasting it all morning here in the studio. Yes, it is. It will make you emotional. It's a very emotional song.

It's a trigger warning. I guess it's AI generated, but it hits. In a manufactured storm, power turned hostile. in the old whispers in hall. Yeah, we should have gotten lighters for this for sure. Of course, this is on the back that the New York Times reports that federal prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation of Jerome Powell. He took to the,

Jerome dropped a video explaining his side of the story. But instead of playing that, we're playing this. Jerome Powell. I didn't want to cry at the office today, but it's happening. Oh, what a story. Powell says the Justice Department served the Fed with subpoenas. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said the U.S. Central Bank has been served grand jury subpoenas from the Justice Department, threatening a criminal indictment related to his June congressional testimony on ongoing renovations of the Fed's headquarters.

In a statement released Sunday evening, Jerome Powell rejected the notion that the action was driven by his testimony or the renovation. Joe Wisenthal has a post here. He says Powell confirms the Fed has been served, subpoenas from the DOJ. Watching Sunday night, I'm all excited, right? One more sleep until Monday. And I pull up this video. I've got to watch Jerome. Two minute talk. Yeah, yeah. I mean, really dark moment. Who's funny, Bucco Capital shared, like if it's illegal to run over budget on a remodel my wife's getting the electric chair you didn't give me the punish line when you said that the first time and i knew where was going people have been standing up people standing up for and standing up for the federal reserve

chairman and fortunately i mean the the administration sees these they you know we know that they're very online and they see the support so we'll see where the story holds says like if you would let jerome powell crash on your couch for a few months is really at its best when you need a bunch of, you know, memes and images generated around a current thing. You just created a million central bankers. And Jordy said this to me. I just burst out laughing. So hard.

Fed chair, probably one of the worst jobs on earth, if you care what other people think about you. Right? Because it's just like every, you know, all the time, people just have this massive fixation on, on you. And they're going to form an opinion immediately. But in this case, I've never seen people so united. around, which is heartwarming. And it is, it is weird because the prediction is that there will not be another rate cut in January. There's a lot of people that would benefit from another rate cut.

If you're long in the market, you'd probably benefit. But I think people do are generally still fans of Fed independence and they want Jerome to do whatever's best based on the facts and the data and the unemployment and inflation. Merrick says absolute insanity. The Department of Justice just served the Federal Reserve Chair with a grand jury subpoenas threatening criminal indictment over a historic building renovation. Interestingly, I don't know the details of this building, but it's not like the White House where he lives there, right? It's like it's just a it's a workplace, I assume. It's not

like it's his personal house. Jerome Powell is appealing directly to the American people and bluntly stating that the criminal charges are not about Congress's oversight role, but rather about the Federal Reserve's independence in setting the interest rate, American equities traded a premium because of our respect for law, accountability, and central bank independence. Public service, sometimes requires standing firm in the face of threats. I will continue to do the job the Senate confirmed me to do with integrity and commitment to serving the American people on a Sunday evening before market open. Yeah, I think everybody expected last night for things to happen. Of course, nothing ever happens.

But we'll see. In some ways, this will just give the DOJ and the admin more confidence in their decision. Although they did come out and say the White House had nothing to do with it. Yes, yes. Trump said, I'm not pressuring. He said something like, I wouldn't even think to pressure. What are you in for? I gave imprecise information to Congress about the scope of renovations to the Federal Reserve's HQ. Trey in the chat says the funniest thing is the Fed renovation is self-funded. Bubble boy says I'm willing to die for the Federal Reserve. So he is Jerome's the strongest soldier. A lot of people are coming out in favor of Jerome Powell. How watching Stock Turned Green after thinking the market would defend him.

The tough thing is like if you assume that rates are going to come down, like you don't exactly want to sell assets. Yeah. Yeah. You want to own assets. There's this weird dynamic where you might not like what's happening politically, but there's a big difference between what should happen and what will happen. Positive and normative analysis. You could be like, I don't like the fact that, you know, the Fed's going to be less independent. But if it means that interest rates are going to come down, then that's bullish. That's a bullish catalyst. And so you wind up going long. Marco Rubio is finding out he has to be chairman of the Federal Reserve. I haven't followed the Marco Rubio meme too closely.

I just know that he has a lot of jobs where keeps getting tapped for things. And so I've seen him in an astronaut outfit. I've seen him in different Venezuelan memes. I don't exactly know where this all came from. But I'm familiar with the concept of Marco Rubio doing everything, I guess. Yeah, it's somewhat depressing because it just means like if you're in the inner circle, you're going to get a lot of responsibility, and if you're out, you will eventually get the laser beam of the admin.

Well, gold is through the roof today. Silver. Well. Hosts a chart. Gold jumped from 4510 to 4585. Not a huge move, but a huge move for gold, of course. So people are bailing on the US dollar potentially. Silver's also up, says the COBSC letter.

Silver surges. of $85 an ounce for the first time in history. It's already up 19% in 2026. There's been a number of hard tech founders have commented on the fact that silver is actually more of an important material than gold in manufacturing. The semiconductor supply chain, a lot of different AI supply chains.

And so there's an interesting narrative of the knock-on effects of high silver prices. The Apple Vision Pro is in the news because Apple Vision Pro announced you can now watch a full NBA game in the Vision Pro, not just a little highlight reel, not just a trailer. And Mark German asked the question, is the total addressable market for watching tonight's Lakers game in the Apple Vision Pro, just me? Or is anyone else tuning in?

Have they ever done this before? They've never done a full game. So they've done MLS highlights. You could watch like an eight-minute summary of an MLS game that had a ton of different cuts. A lot of people were not fans of that. This release cadence needs to be studied. It's crazy. And I mean, that's what Ben Thompson wrote about today in Straterecary. He sees all this as like crazy own goals, a lot of really obvious things. Also, the reason that you see this video so grainy like this, so Mark German loved it in the headset. He said it's absolutely wild. It's like watching courtside. Trunk fan has the video here. You can't record what's happening in the headset. You can't just steal an NBA game because, so you need to like put your phone up against it and you don't, really experience it here because for DRM reasons, you can't just pirate it. You can't just

record what you're seeing. So the actual experience is better than this. I actually went to the Apple store yesterday to try and pick up a Vision Pro to experience this and they were sold out. And I don't know if that means that they were just like not expecting to sell anymore so they stopped stocking them, but they didn't have one. The real review would be getting the Apple Vision Pro going to getting, going to the actual game, getting the ticket right next to the system that they're using and then just having the headset on and taking it on at the game yeah at the game you want to see how real it is well so this is cool because it's like emulating like what it's happening in real life but in VR you can do like things that like you couldn't do in real life so like I want to see what is

the point of view like if I'm the ball you probably be so motion sick I want to be the ball that sounds terrible you know what wants to be the ball I know ball Ben Thompson wrote about this because he's obviously a huge NBA fan also he's a Milwaukee Bucks fan and the game was the Lakers versus the box. So this is like a royal flush of like the sweet spot for Ben Thompson analysis. He had to jump through VPN hoops to watch the broadcast because it was only available on Lakers home market, which is California, also Hawaii and I think one other state. So it's somewhat tricky. Wait, you can't. No, no. If you're in New York and you had a vision pro, you could not watch the Lakers play the box unless you had a VPN. Yeah. There's a lot of details

here and that's a huge detail I know I know I know like I have this I have this $3,000 device yeah that is just gathering dust yeah and then you make this big deal about this amazing experience that I can have and then if I'm not actually within the area that the game is actually taking place I can't yes I can't experience it what's the point of ER so there there are a lot of reasonable critiques like that Ben puts a lot of those in his piece I think that there are logical reasons I don't think Apple is dumb I don't think they just made a mistake.

I think these are all contract negotiations. And when we look at the history of sports and transitions through various eras of broadcast and new technologies, I think their decision making makes a little bit more sense, even though I agree from a user experience perspective, what you're saying, what Ben Thompson is saying, makes a ton of sense. So Apple clearly reads strategyry.

They've sent him multiple headsets. He bought his own, but they keep sending him to him being like, hey, you should try it. Like, we're coming out with something new. So they've sent him the new one, M5 Vision Pro and he was ready to he was ready to watch this he was ready to love this but he was very disappointed because it it cut from one scene to another and so that takes you out of the experience he says do away with all of the pre-show special

announcer post-show content just let me put on the headset and if I put it on 30 minutes before the game starts I'll just watch the players warm up and then you don't need any overlays because if I want to know the score I'll just look up at the score you're in the theater like people pay a lot of money to sit court side and they're not like, oh, I also need a bad experience. I know, please, please give me an iPad with the score. No, no one cares. They just look at the score.

They hear the audience. If something great happens, they hear the roar of the crowd. They see everything. They can even look up at the screen and usually see a replay if they need to. And so all of that should be possible with just one simple Apple immersive camera rig streamed the whole game. And that's it. Instead, they did four different camera angles.

They're cutting between them. And every time they cut, you get kind of like, where am I? Like I just teleport it. It's weird. So Ben frames this as, he calls it Apple, you still don't understand the Vision Pro. He's like taking shots of them.

And I titled my piece, Apple, they actually do understand the Vision Pro. And I think they, I think they've heard his response. They've clearly read his piece. He wrote about this maybe two years ago when he got a demo before it even came out. And he said, the secret to success with this product will just be put a camera on the field,

let me sit there front, court side that's it no editing nothing else and then every time they delivered him something that was edited he wrote a piece about how bad the editing was and how you don't need that and just let me let me sit there and so my question was there's no one that really disagrees with Ben like Ben comes out and says these these things every time there's an Apple Vision Pro piece of content that comes out he comes down says too many edits too many cuts just let us sit there and there's not like there's a lot of people that are like Ben's wrong actually I

love the edits more edits like they need to be even crack well to be clear no one's talking about for Ben, basically. So they should clearly listen to him. And no one's arguing that Ben's wrong. But my question is like, why on earth isn't Apple doing this? Why, or at least why haven't they made it an option? Like, they have the single camera there. They could just be like, do you want to watch the edited version? Or do you want to watch just the normal just sit there in the seat version? Yeah. And then Ben would be happy. And he'd be writing a glowing review right now. Instead, Apple's not giving what's your techery wants. And they're feeling the pain because

They got an article that was not very complimentary to them in the experience. I think that this actually has less to do with the technology, less to do with the creative direction and the directorial vision within Apple, and more with just straight up contract negotiation. I went back to 1947. So TV adoption, I didn't realize this. TV adoption went through a fast takeoff. In, for 1947, there were 16,000 TV sets installed in.

America eight years later it was 32 and a half million it's like do completely asymptotic completely fast takeoff so the technology trend was clear but there was still financial risk to getting the timing wrong for your league the NFL is obviously a huge beneficiary of TV today they make a fortune from the Super Bowl ads that are extremely expensive but in 1949 the Los Angeles Rams because the Rams are in LA now but they didn't do it went to St. Louis and then they came back, but they were in Los Angeles in 1949. They sort of got wrecked because they jumped too early.

So the NFL had gone to all the franchises, said all the teams were giving you the permission to sell your broadcast rights this year. This season, if you want to put your particular teams, home games on TV, you can do that. You can go out and negotiate. You can sell those. It's an option. And the Rams said, yeah, we'll do it.

We'll take the jump. They were the only one that did it, and it sort of makes sense since they're in LA. There's a lot of production people here. it would be a natural. They were a little too TV-pilled. They were extremely TV-pilled, and they got burned. So attendance dropped significantly.

On an inflation-adjusted basis, they lost $2.5 million of today's dollars. And so the Rams had to go to all the sponsors that sponsor the TV broadcasts and say, like, hey, can you just make us whole because we're going to go out of business? And they did, and the sponsors basically paid the Rams for the difference in what they had taken in ticket sales. But it was not a good, it was not a good outcome. Although the NFL eventually got through all of this and figured it all out, that was not the case for minor league baseball. Minor league baseball attendance at minor league baseball events, minor league events peaked in 1949 right during the TV install base fast takeoff.

49 million people went to little, went to minor league events that year in 1949. By 1957, the total had dropped to 15 million. So it actually did wreck the minor leagues in terms of like their business model and they never really recovered. The job of a league commissioner is to get the transition right. Like if you transition too early, you'll have a really, really bad year while everyone just says, hey, I can just do the new thing, the new technology, I don't need to buy the tickets. If you do it too late, other leagues might have figured out their contracts, their ad sales, their broadcast rights, all this other stuff.

So Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA, who we learned about through his connection to Josh Kushner, of course, He said, I think it's my job to incentivize our partners to be able to look out into the future. He's not saying, hey, my job's to get everyone out of the stadiums and into VR headsets, ASAP. The end result is like there is a separation between immersive rights and presence rights. So there's broadcast rights. And effectively, they're using the same framework. So when they sell a broadcast right, they're not selling the right to, they're selling the right to broadcast with an announcer, with multiple cameras, with different cuts and edits,

they're not selling, you're teleported into the stadium. And that's something that they might sell, but they haven't sold yet. I think they're deliberate about this. And so I think when they went to Apple, they said, yes, we can do something, because they did a deal with meta,

and you can watch a number of NBA games in the meta quest, and it's the same thing, they cut around. And the reviews are bad. Everyone says it sucks. And so it's obvious that the tech companies should, you know, Google, how did people like this?

And it's obvious. No, no, people don't like it. But I think the NBA is holding fast that they're like, no, actually, our courtside seats are really, really, really expensive. And we want to keep it that way. We don't want it to be substitutive on day one. And Ben Thompson, when he first wrote about the Applevision Pro, he said, I would pay thousands of dollars a year for an NBA league pass that allowed me to in VR sit courtside. And that's less money than courtside seats to every single NBA game, which is effectively what you're saying. So there's there's financial risk there. I think it can work out. I think that there's a deal and there's a price and there's a number the install base gets to this level and you price it at this level and I think there are two I think in some ways they could very easily be two wildly different consumers. Yeah. Like Ben is probably like Ben Thompson knows ball. He wants to what he wants to be able to watch courtside for the love of the game. Yeah. Whereas somebody that's going court side at the Lakers or the Knicks they're going there to be seen. watching courtside, right?

A little bit of that. You're willing to like, you're not just paying to watch basketball, right? Because you could pay like, you know, a fraction to sit a couple rows back. Yeah. You're paying to be sitting court side. The other interesting angle is, is this like region lock thing. It almost feels weirder to allow someone in Los Angeles to watch the L.A. Lakers play because they really could just buy a ticket and go down to the stadium.

But maybe you should actually be trying to get. whole point, if you're like a diehard Lakers fan, but you don't live in Southern California, and then somebody says, hey, with the Apple Vision Pro, you can watch it. Like your courtside, that's great. Yeah. What you actually want is like Ben Thompson's in Milwaukee. He loves the Bucks, but they're playing in L.A. He's not going to buy a flight to go courtside in L.A.

And so you let him experience that game. And then when they're back in Milwaukee, he can go get the courtside seats in his hometown. So you almost want to do the inverse region lock. Something like that. I don't know. What do you think, Tyler? Wait, so is that deal where it's just a broadcast, not the actual, like, live stream? Is that basically every single league? Like, can you do the same thing in F1? So that's also like, I think that would be everyone wants that, you're in the cockpit. So every deal is unique and there's no, there are some, there are some laws around sports broadcasting

and that sort of solidified like the blackout periods and made some of that, defined some like legal language around that. But really, it's up to the leagues to decide how they negotiate these contracts, whether every game's available, only home games are available, region locking blackout dates. There's all sorts of mechanics where, I don't know how true this is today, but I know that if you have a home stadium and it's full, then you can be much more permissive with the broadcast rights because you've sold out all your tickets. But if you're not selling out the stadiums, then often you won't broadcast as much or you can't broadcast as much. So you'll be in your hometown and you'll go to watch the game and it won't be broadcast because they want you to just go buy a ticket. And then the equilibrium, like the clearing, the market clearing prices that people that are on the fence who are like, I really wanted to watch the game. I can't watch it here. I'll just go buy a ticket.

And then over the time you fill it up. Yeah. You're going to be very excited about this. Please. Ben Thompson's going to join the show. Really? No way. Amazing. Someone in the chat earlier said you're Ben Thompson's biggest fan.

I am. And you are. I am. We are. That's amazing. Maduro. We're back in politics land, but don't worry, not for long because we're going into Watchland, because he was caught rocking a Chopard Ganesh, a fantastic Indian watch that is incredibly, incredibly detailed. Look at all these different Swiss made.

This is a crazy. I feel like this is sort of a lost art. You know, maybe Mark Zuckerberg should get into this. Wear a watch that has Sweet Baby Rays on the dial. The Sweet Baby Rays, Chopard dial might go incredibly hard. Also, it was the Golden Globes. I know Jority didn't watch because you probably haven't seen any of these movies, but they did it in fact happen yesterday. Rob Report has some images of the best watches at the Golden Globes. If the Golden Globes were any indication, subtle is officially on hiatus, says the Rob Report. This year's red carpet made a strong case for statement watches with bold dials, diamonds. Did we kind of call this originally with the show? Did we?

I mean, no, I mean, the joke early on was like, quiet luxury is over. Yes, loud opulence. A lot of these are screaming loud opulence. In fact, I need to return to my, let's start with the beginning of the slideshow. We need to return to our original statements about the value of loud opulence because I see these and I'm like I couldn't pull these off with my life dependent on it. But the rock was spotted watching a Chopard, much like Maduro. But this one is the Alpine Eagle Frozen Summit. Look at all those diamonds.

I like it, but I'd like to see. I mean, could we get at least a couple more diamonds on here? I think it's a little understated. Adam Scott was wearing a Vachron Constance. on Traditionale, Perpetual Calendar Ultratern. This is nice. That's a very nice watch. I like that one a lot.

I also like this Omega Sea Master, Aquatera, that Glenn Powell was seen wearing. Mark Andresen, notoriously, he's no mega guy. That's right. New fund. Maybe this was a nod from Glenn saying, like, I salute you. Hat tip. Yes, he's celebrating the $15 billion.

He probably read the Paki piece. And he says, you know what, it's time to put on the Omega Sea Master Aquatera. In terms of Omega Sea Masters, this one stands out to me. Gold is a choice, but I think it's working very well here. And you know who else is wearing an Omega Sea Master? George Clooney, also an Aquatera. I would love to know the details of Omega and Rolex and the other brands,

like fighting over people like Clooney, right? Because, you know, I don't think Clooney's putting on a watch without getting paid. Walmart partners with Alphabet's Google to allow shoppers to purchase products through Gemini. So Walmart is jumping in with Google. Google is posting a video of Wing. The future of retail is landing. They're taking shots at our boy Keller, launching a drone delivery service. This one hit me pretty hard.

I know. I know. We love Zipline. We love Keller here. We love Google. Obviously, their sponsor. Can Google just leave one future of X thing for someone else? For someone else?

I didn't even know about Wing until today. Was this an acquisition? Wing.com. One of the best domains. You're going to be texting Keller, like Sam Altman and Elon, we're texting each other about the future of AI. You're going to be like, the future of drone delivery is in our hands, brother. We got to be a wing.

No, Google's been working on this for a long time. Just on the point of Elon and Sam, Elon just said on the Apple and Google collaboration, he said, seems like an unreasonable concentration of power for Google, given that they also have Android and Chrome. So he's still on the... He's taking shots. He's not a fan.

We talked about Apple confirming, Gemini, very excited for that. I want them to roll this out immediately. I know that it's probably going to be some normal release cycle with very polished ads and onstage keynote and a developer preview and there'll be a whole cycle to updating. But we are in the age of AI Apple. Just ship it today. Just replace Siri with Gemini today. I'm sure a lot of people would be fans of that, but they operate the way they do. I pulled a little history on wing.com. Please. So started...

Wait, they only wing.com? Wing.com. That's the thing. It's not only, not only do this, this is an amazing partnership, but a fantastic domain. Yeah. So it started with an X,

Google X, the Moonshot Factory. It really is a factory. The original mission was focused on emergency medical response. Okay. So they wanted to deliver defibrillators to heart attack victims. Basically, they pivoted away

from emergency services to last mile commercial delivery. They started doing their first, like, real world trials back in Queensland as early as 2014. It graduated from X in 2018. They later became the first delivery, drone delivery company to receive a Part 135 air carrier certificate from the FAA. And they've just been scaling the network since then. So, yeah, I guess they're going to be able to serve 40 million people by 2027. Yeah, I mean, as an American, as a human, as a technologist, I want more and I want more.

competition, but as a big fan of Keller at Ziply, I want him to dominate. No, I think, I think, I think Google maybe did this. They knew Keller had the potential for, to be one of the greatest in history. But they realize if he didn't have a viable competitor, he would never live up to his. So they're inspiring him to grind hard. Exactly. That's what's going on. Okay, now we understand it. Open AI launched Chatsypte Health, now Anthropic, has Claude Code for heart attacks or something like that. Health care and life sciences. Cloud code. I'm dying. Give me blood transfer.

Don't make a mistake. I used cloud code this weekend in a funny way. I was having slow Wi-Fi, which of course is a weird thing to go to Cloud Code for because it uses the internet, so you're going to have slow interaction. I told her like, hey, I'm having problems in my internet. Can you just go fix it?

It ran all these different diagnostics, pinged Google, pinged all the different DNS servers, ran through everything, ran speed tests, and it came back and told me to turn it off and turn it back. And it actually worked. And I could have saved myself like 45 minutes of sitting there being like, yes, I'm okay with you using curl. Yes, I'm okay with you using W.

The entire time super intelligence was just turning off and then back on. It's Lindy. It's Lindy. It should have just preempted me and just been like, look, dude, have you at least turned it off and turned it back on? Anyway, Tyler, what do you think? If Claude was being slow by the, because of the Wi-Fi, then that's the example of like, you know, self-improvement. Self-improved itself. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Interesting that everyone's pushing into health care. I'm still waiting for the push and to leave. I'm wondering if that'll happen or if that's more complicated than healthcare. I'm also wondering maybe health care is more lucrative, more viable, more, I would love to be in the meetings where they have prioritization of who's in whose lunch they're trying to eat off. Who's, whose plate should we eat off? The lunch meeting. The lunch meeting.

Meta-Coreau, Zuckerberg is launching Meta-compute planning tens of gigawatts this decade and hundreds of gigawatts longer term. This effort will be led by Sanchoche, Janard Hahn, and Daniel Gross, governments getting involved in financing meta's infrastructure. So he's saying, he's like, Sam, they said it. I'm going to say it now. It's not a backstop. It's the front door. Nvidia is investing a billion dollars in an AI drug lab with Eli Lilly over five years.

Drug lab sounds. It's AI Ozeptic. It's the two biggest super trends of the last five years, weight loss, And AI, could it get any better? Well, now it will. Tom Brady is now the face of the former CEO of X's new company, EMed. So Tom Brady, if you're not familiar, he was the former face of FTX. That's a rough one.

And also, was he actually the face? Because there were a lot of celebrities that partnered with FTX, Larry Davis in there. He was part of some of their bigger campaigns. He did a bigger campaign. He did a TV campaign. So he's joining as the chief wellness officer of EMed. And it's interesting because this kind of just makes him the face of GLP-1s, right, which is kind of a beneficiary, like is beneficial to the entire industry, right?

If you sell GLP-1s, you can be like, well, Tom Brady. Yeah, he's down. Yeah. Maybe he's just super AGI-I-pilled. Maybe he, maybe Sam said, hey, I'm an investor in Anthropic, and he said, well, I think Anthropics is going to win. I'm partnering up with you. I don't care about the structure of your hedge fund.

I don't care if there's a backdoor out of your, out of your, out of your, trading platform. I'm in on you because of your investing track record. What about that? Yeah. You know, Phanthropic gets out at a trillion. There's going to be a debate, at least, about Sam Begman-Fried's legacy. He, of course, invested, what, 10 million for 10% of the company or something? 8% of the company. So that would be maybe like an $80 billion position today, something like that, 50 billion, 10 billion with dilution. I don't know. It was a good investment. Paramount Skydance has now initiated what insiders are calling Plan D. They're running out. of letters as they look to upend Netflix's winning bid for Warner Brothers Discovery. Hey, maybe

the D just stands for Discovery. Maybe they're saving the best for last. Plan W. Never take the L. Skip plan L, go straight to Plan W. Get the W. We're rooting for you, Ellison. It involves banging home to investors, the immense amount of regulatory uncertainty of involved in the Netflix deal and how that could spell trouble, not just for the transaction, but for Netflix itself. And so if Netflix finds itself in a quagmire trying to acquire Warner Brother Discovery, that could be bad news. And

David Ellison wants to make that clear to all of the shareholders. I have some other breaking news. Give me some breaking news. Okay, so Anthropic, they have cloud code, they launched co-work, which is ClaudeCode for the rest of your work. No way. So it's like everything else. That's crazy. Yeah, it's exciting. It's basically a local app.

Oh, it's a local app. Oh, you don't need to do the terminal stuff anymore. You can just use it in an app with a prompt box. Yes, and then it can interact with all like your local files, whatever, and then... This is going to be really, really big. I don't know if you guys have used the Claude Chrome extension, but it's like super good. I have. The computer use is super good.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, this is very exciting. Okay, yeah, yeah. Get ready for some threads, people. People are going to be breaking it down on all the fun things they had to do. I fix my Wi-Fi in under an hour by rebooting it. But no, seriously, I was listening to Doug O'Loughlin from some of the analysis talk about how he uses cloud code in a knowledge-weiser. work setting, and it's fascinating. So he'll kick off one deep research report about one company

that he's researching, then a few more, and then he'll do a deep research report on top of that. But instead of it all living in the Claude web UI, it's just creating markdown files that then he stores an obsidian, and then he can run these meta-deep research reports on the other deep research reports that he's put together, interact with whatever's going on in the semi-analysis, private data world, all the data that they've collected, interact with their. They're slack bot that interacts with it. And so he was talking, he was very, very one shot by Claude Cod code and was saying, everything is a skill issue now.

Everything is a skill issue now. Tyler, you have some breaking news? Yeah. So, okay, so earlier on the show, I was reading into the Jack Clark. Yes, yes, yes. I was like, oh, maybe Jack Clark is pointing to something that Anthropics can build space center centers. I posted that.

He responded, put me in the truth zone. He said, no, you should not be reading into this or any Anthropic Grant Strategy. And he totally ratioed me. Oh, wow. We got destroyed. Brutal, but... Brutal magging. Brutal mauging.

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