TBPN - Meta Connect 2026, OpenAI’s Australia ‘Incident,’ Bentley’s New EV | Diet TBPN

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

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Meta Connect yesterday. Zuck likes going late. He 4 p.m. Pacific, 7 p.m. Eastern for the keynote. Well, because he wanted to roll straight from the keynote into some beer pong. Oh, that's true. We will get into that big, hot debate on the timeline over his beer pong strategy. But really, really tight keynote, very well organized, very clear, didn't overstay its welcome. Did three live demos. Last year, there was a hiccup with a live demo, Wi-Fi, and I believe Baas, triggered everyone's agents by using the wake word. So this time he deliberately stayed away from using that wake word and used like the name of his agent. So he didn't cause a lot of chaos in the in the dome or in the studio, wherever they were.

But a bunch of great announcements, really good pacing, really tight one hour keynote. And it was it was fun watching Zuck like sort of do the live demos and be like one down. Like it's just high stakes. Like it was clearly high stakes for him. But he got through it all. No mistakes. Yeah, he had a funny line. He was like, and we love live demos here.

Yeah. It's funny because like he totally could just not do live demos, but he like wants to. So I think you need to. Do you? I think you absolutely need to. People have bought so many random hardware devices. True. You haven't met expectation.

Yeah. And I guess there was that. Hardware. If you want people to buy it, you have to do a live demo. Yeah. There was a, there was a demo of a, a Gemini model running like two years ago that was like sped up in post and and that faced a lot of criticism. And so I think, yeah, just demoing things as they are available in the real world is

very valuable. And I think in general, like the thesis for the products was like meet people where they are delivering tomorrow's technology with today's constraints. And that's just what I kept seeing as a theme was like, what do people want? And of course, the best, it basically created a huge dichotomy between like the crazy super intelligence RSI, ASI, P, Doom, X-R-R-R-R-R-R-SICs, crew, and then just like, Muse, it's a helpful agent. Nouraj Agarwal summed it up well. Anthropic marketing, we build a God only we can control and gave it a wet lab. Muse marketing.

Hey, girl, I know you have dozens of unpaid parking tickets. Let's get that cleaned up. And it's funny because it's actually working. I think that if you went back to a couple months ago, the consensus was like popularity of AI is turning. It's deeply unpopular. You need to just be quiet or not lean in or just like apologize like what a lot of the lab leaders are doing just being like, that is bad. I'm sorry.

But meta has taken a very different approach. They're not fearmongering. They're just like, it's cute. It's lovable. And they actually are successful. I mean, the New York Times yesterday, Jensen and Ezra duking it out over like X risk and acceleration, do we need to slow down? Meanwhile, the New York Times published like a really positive review of muse. They like they love it and like they're a tough cookie to like win over basically.

So success there. And it's interesting because it's been, there's been a few strikes for meta over the past two years. The vertical AI slop app vibes quickly disappeared. I don't even know. if it's available anymore. It might have been quietly shuttered or tucked behind a couple different tabs. The core meta chat app that was sort of just like a Gemini, a Chachimati clone, I don't think that ever really took on. Over the last year, you have massive spending, clearly massive focus for meta, but the strategy was at most times completely incoherent.

It was scattered. It was not legible to the markets. It was not legible to the tech industry. Yeah, you had, you had. But nothing was really. You know, Muse code. You had them buying and then having to undo the Manus acquisition. Oh, yeah.

The meta vibe, the first thing, and again, this was an unforced error, the first thing that they did post the whole talent raid was released, like, the short form slop video app, which wasn't even. It was mid-jurney. Yeah, it was basically a mid-jorney rapper. Yeah. And everyone was like, okay. Like, this doesn't align to what you're putting out, which is this, like,

personal super intelligence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so really yesterday, like everything felt like it came together really nicely, right? Tying in all of the hardware investments, tying in personal, making personal super intelligence feel a bit more real, right? Totally. AI that hustles for you. I think that's smart positioning. But it really felt like things came together for the first time.

And I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to give them full credit. as like if you were really going to give them full credit for like this was the master plan all along, then there's a bunch of other stuff you wouldn't have done unless you were just trying to confuse the market. Yeah. You're trying to just confuse people. Are we doing coding? Yeah.

Are we doing, you know, a knowledge work harness? Are we doing short form slop? And so I think it was really like- So you're not giving them the benefit of the 4D chess. No. Okay. No, no, no. Tricky.

But. Go in Occam's Razor. Total credit. Total. Occum's 40-Raser. Total credit to them for. like figuring out how all the pieces connect together. Yeah.

And then putting that in a one hour presentation that actually like makes sense. So what are the pieces that come together? Why does it make sense for META's business? Why are they seeing success here when the models haven't jumped to the frontier? The benchmarks have always been a little, there's been a lot of confusion on are they going to sell compute, sell tokens, sell, you know, go after the coding market, desktop agents, all these different things that they were testing. This seems to be working and I think there's sort of four key points that come together to make this make sense. So first is like they have scaled and secured systems for years. WhatsApp encryption is a great example.

They have a lot of compute and so they can offer a VM for millions of people that is secure and also well resourced. And they won't be losing sleep over costs because they already have a lot of the compute built out. And the question was like, when will the demand come? Are those GPU sitting idle? Are those, is that infrastructure getting used efficiently? They're building a lot more of it. Do they need to? Well, they got to find a product to actually distribute all that through,

and it seems like they have. Two was they have the distribution to continually educate people about features and benefits of muse through big ad placements across the family of apps. I think that there is the world where they've been able to funnel, what, like half a billion people over to threads. It's not a particularly differentiated app. Obviously, it's a different community and it's done well, but it's a different challenge because with threads you can just show someone a text post. People know what that looks like.

It's more content. They go over there. Jobs finished once you show someone. All you need to show is that their community exists over there. They're scrolling Instagram watching basketball highlights and you say, hey, there's some basketball commentary going on in threads. You hop over there. With all the AI agent products, the capabilities change so rapidly that you have to re-educate the consumer. on what it's capable of.

Like, can it actually deal with parking tickets? Like, if it can, you need to confidently tell someone that. And that capability might change. It might not work one week, and then the model updates, and then all of a sudden you can do that the next week. And so Chad GPT came out, and it was like, it can answer Google searches. It can do your homework.

Then it was like it can write some code. And there's this constant, like, re-education of the community. Obviously, the early adopters, the enterprise, the business, the startup community, tests everything, but consumers don't. Consumers just, they need to be told the new iPhone has an ultra-wide camera. The new iPhone has Memoji. Even though Memoji was not a wildly popular feature, Apple told everyone what it was. We know what it is. Everyone sort of knows that concept because they ran billboard campaigns and meta has the ability to actually go and tell everyone what

Muse is capable of and run an ad campaign across the whole platform to get people back. up to speed on the latest and greatest feature. The third is that no one needs their... Winston says, quote, deal with parking tickets. Hack me out of it. Then we are talking. Well, no, no. So the thing is that they are behind on the frontier.

They're not dominating all the benchmarks, but it actually doesn't matter. Because no one needs their personal AI agent to solve a Millennium Prize math problem or secure their enterprise infrastructure from cyber attacks. Like, that's not a requirement. the model is definitely good enough for a lot of this. They obviously will increase the model and the capabilities,

but it's not what consumers worry about. Consumers don't care about benchmarks. They don't understand them. The benchmarks are often hacked or not indicative of the feel of using a model. And so it leans into the capabilities. They have near-fier intelligence. They have good enough intelligence. And so if it's good enough to do this, you just roll out the capability

and the harness is what matters, the integration, the distribution, that's what matters. So they actually didn't launch watermelon. They've been teasing that for a while. There's been some leaks. It totally could have happened here, but they made the decision to either not rush it because maybe it does just need more time.

But also, even if it was ready, I don't think they should have launched it here because MetaConnect's not for that audience. They don't care. Yeah, the AIRISP. The watermelon might scare people. Yeah, yeah. You probably don't want it to be too powerful.

And then fourth, they, of course, already have a business model that's heavily aligned with this type of use case advertising. We've talked about this idea that brands would love to sponsor agenetic workflows. You open up a personal AI agent and it says, hey, you know, the new Nathan Fielder movie is coming out in a couple months. I saw that you were scrolling reels. You seemed to be a fan of this. You shared the movie trailer with your friend. do you want me to get tickets, text some of your friends, share it on WhatsApp, share it in your Instagram DMs, and actually make that happen, send a calendar, invite, do everything necessary

to take care of that. And I think movie studios are just one example of a business that would happily pay for placement for extra attention around that particular workflow that they can monetize through the traditional pathway. And then, of course, small businesses will buy pixels anywhere. So, you know, if you open it up and there's a full bleed ad, like, that's fine. And people will pay for that. Yeah, the other kind of examples I get pretty crazy is your personal agent, for example,

knows that you have home insurance that's set to renew in three months. And it's like, do you want me to go get three competing bids before we renew? Yeah, totally. And it's like, yes, right? And that's like an opportunity for some type of paid placement as well. Sure. So the vibes, not the app, but the actual vibes at Meta, internally, how are the employees feeling. I feel like this is a turning point. I feel like if you're at meta, you're like,

okay, finally there's a thing to align around. We have a strategy. As long as I do something that's in support of muse and what's going on with a personal superintelligence mission that the CEO and founder has laid out, I'm good, even if I'm on Facebook Marketplace team. And I feel like I'm going to get steamrolled because of the Nikita Beer take that everyone's going to be negotiating and low-balling on Facebook Marketplace. Well, the Facebook Marketplace team, they can say, okay, well, now we're going to build tools for sellers to make that not annoying. And so there's more work to be done and it's more aligned with the overall mission. The vibes should be good.

At the same time, the verge ran a story that said the vibes are internally way off still at meta, that people are upset about the scattershot nature of the approach, that they're still reeling from like the metaverse misadventures. But I feel like that was like the last hit piece you could write about meta. And I think things are turned around. It's hard to be feeling that bad when the stalker. walks up 38% in the last month. Yeah.

And so I think it's pretty easy to align all the efforts across what's happening, personal super intelligence. And even if you were on like the glasses team, there's a whole narrative of like, well, you were trying to build VR. You came, you were in the division that was building the cool Oculus stuff. It's evolved. And now it's kind of just a GoPro on your face. There's been some negative, oh, these are just for, you know, people to spy on each other,

blah, blah, blah. But now they even have a version without cameras. and it's very aligned to what the users want. And so the top line hero initiative, even if you're just on the glasses team and you're like, oh, like, they're building the data center and that's not really anything to do with me or they're working on a coding model

and like that's not really relevant to like getting more people to wear the Oakley's or the Meta Raybans. Well, now you are aligned. Now you are on the same team. You're rowing in the same direction. And so I would expect the vibes to get better. I think. And yeah, this is all good news, super reflected in the timeline.

But I'm even more excited about the VR glasses. That was the highlight for me. It was the one more thing. I was hoping that we'd get a new VR headset last year. We didn't. And no one was speculating that this would drop this year, but it did. And it's very, very cool. So the headline is $1,300 bucks, VR glasses.

It's 100 grams, which is. is the weight of a pack of deck of cards. If you go back, John Carmack was the CTO of Oculus, working with Palmer Lucky. He came into Meta through the acquisition. He's the creator of Doom, legendary computer scientist now running keen, working on AI. He wound up leaving. Very disappointing to not have him realize his vision there at the company. And he had been pounding the table at Meta.

And actually, there were some leaks. And there was like, oh, this is like a source of frustration. His goal and his mission was to get to 100 grams for the headset, very light, at $100. He said it needs to be cheap and light, and then it can go everywhere. Then you can see mass adoption, and then you'll get the developer ecosystem, etc. Obviously, $1,300 is not $100. There's been a lot of inflation, but not that much inflation. But it is half the price of the Apple Vision Pro, basically.

You're in a more accessible territory. Half the price of spec. Oh, yeah, it's half the price of. of specs and it's, I think it's less than 1% the price of a Ferrari luce. So there's that if you're in the market. You can just put that on it. Imagine that you're driving an electric Ferrari. Glasses in the car sound the same.

Oh, yeah, they're both very quiet. But he pitched it as three key things. It's a cinema. It's a workstation and it's a gaming console. You can play VR games on it. I almost felt like they were listening or just like same line of thought as Ben Thompson. because they're rolling out a bunch of like 100 experiences, it sounds like a year, where you're going to be able to get some entertainment, live entertainment value from your headset.

And specifically, sports. Sports. Sports. You sit anywhere in the stadium. Yes. Yes, yes. And you can pick your seat. And I don't think they will be doing the crazy frenetic editing or the cut downs.

They have a great deal with UFC. Obviously, Dana White's on the board. But it seems like they also rolled out partnerships with so many other leagues to get that there. They also put the compute and the battery pack on a puck that you wear on your belt. I love that design. It was very controversial, very un-Apple when Apple Vision Pro did it. And everyone was like, Steve Jobs never would have stood for this. Well, like, that's the reality of the technology.

It doesn't make sense to put a battery on your face. And so put it on, put it in your pocket. I've never had a problem with the way the Apple Vision Pro works with the tether. And they did a good job in the, in the, promotional videos of like hiding the puck like you can't even see it there so they're clearly aware that you want to forget about it and I think in the best case you actually can so very good there the other other dynamic uh tabletop typing so if you have a flat surface in front of you bad bad bad no one wants to do that german says it's insane I don't think I don't think it'll I trust him with my

life okay okay maybe I think people will either connect this to to a computer and just be using their computer or they'll just be using voice. I think that that's like a half measure like the writing and I think I think it won't be it'll be 99% of the way there so in a demo you'll be like oh this is pretty good. But if you're thinking about actually wearing this for work hours a day, you'll be like yeah let me get a $20 keyboard. It has tactile feedback like you can actually feel the keys the keys move. I don't know it's good that they did it like it's clearly cool. It's possible And especially if you're in a situation where you can't bring a keyboard or a laptop, like that makes a lot of sense.

That is a glimpse into the future. I would be surprised if that has, if that's the dominant input, like way people input stuff. They'll either just talk to it because the voice models are good, or they'll be locked in at a computer with an actual keyboard. But good to have. This is an awesome step forward to, you know,

humanity living inside a world owned and controlled and monitored by Mark Zuckerberg. Instead of trying to purely position it as like this entirely new thing, metaverse that you live in and VR and everything's immersive and full like immersion. Instead, you're like, this can replace your triple monitor display. And you're like, yeah, you know what? I was in the market for a triple monitor display. It was going to be two grand across three monitors. Why don't I pick up this instead?

And if they can deliver on that, I still think this might be V1 and it might be the second one that actually gets the breakout success and really broad adoption. Yeah, he did say. this is a glimpse of the future. And any time you hear that, you're kind of thinking, okay, like, I'm going to get some cool demos. It's not going to be dailying it. Yeah, I mean, it'll take a while for the ecosystem.

But it was the same thing with the iPhone. Like the first iPhone didn't have an app store, didn't have 3G, but it kicked off the beginning of a big revolution. And this feels like it could be that. Also, the pixel density, they haven't shared the exact specs. It feels like it might be 5K per I, which is about 53%, about half as much as the Apple Vision Pro. So there's a world where in six months we're talking about,

it's still not that high fidelity to actually do work on for a full day. A lot of people are running 5K for a single monitor that's only in this much of your vision. You're talking about 5K spread over your full field of vision. Could be a little bit of a setback. But I think that that is something that definitely gets resolved on the next iteration because the display technology is going. What do we think about hologram calling? I think it's cool. They did legs in VR. It's very difficult to do legs in VR.

Boz took the victory lap on that. And I think it blew people away. I think it's cool. I did an Applevision Pro call with someone who got one the same week. It didn't really, they never really took off because there was never a broad install base. It's all based on like, do they sell millions and millions of these things? it's always been hard for Facebook to develop like a new network that requires hardware distribution. It's much easier to go from a friend in real life to we're texting each other. We have each other's emails and then we're also sending Instagram reels to each other on DMs. Much harder to be like, oh, did you get the device?

Oh, no, I don't have it. Oh, I don't have it set up. But of course, you can portal into someone with just WhatsApp or, or, or anything else. So it does seem good. There's one thing that is 100% sure, which is that you will be buying these, and I

will not. That is 100% true. Let's go through the timeline. React to some of the reactions. Mark German loves it. He says they're incredible. Half the price of the Vision Pro, one six, the weight

external pack. He's stoked on it. What else is going on? They launched in spring, 2027. The interface is basically the same as the Vision Pro, but it has an absolutely bonkers tabletop virtual keyboard that blows the Vision Pro keyboard out of the water.

Yeah, because the Vision Pro keyboard like hovers there. You're not supposed to really use it. It's a terrible keyboard. What else is in here? I underestimated Zuck's game, Ryan says. It's a hearing aid. You can't tell me I can't wear my meta glasses anymore or else you'll be going against ADA,

the Americans of Disability Act. That is sort of crazy that there's all this backlash to smart glasses. maybe there will be a next wave of like restaurants and bars that say, no, you can't wear those there. But if you say, no, it's my hearing aid, you can't, that's some 4D chess. Are you given Mark Zuckerberg the benefit of Occam's 40 Razor on this one? No, I just think it's, I think it's cool.

I think it's just cool and independent. I don't think it's actually a cool looking pair of, I was meeting with an older friend the other day. and his hearing aid setup was like this, like, you know, seemed like kind of clunky. And if you could just throw on it, he was wearing glasses, if he could have just thrown on a pair of glasses and be like, cool, I'm in business.

That's been awesome. So I think, again, what many people forget about glasses is that smart glasses are way more appealing if you have a need for them outside of just wanting smart glasses. So if you just want, you know, if you need help with your vision or you need help with your hearing, I think these are going to have much stronger product market fit. Don't you think if you're wearing,

if you're wearing camera glasses, VR or AR, you know, meta ray bands, and it has a camera there. It should be, it can see your hands, right? It can see your elbow. So if you were playing beer pong, it could tell you, hey, back up, you're going to lose a point. It could go to your agent and kick off an agentic workflow to schedule you with a professional beer pong coach, have them come to your house and do hours and hours of drills so that you never make that mistake. So is this vaporware if it didn't happen?

Because we saw Mark Zuckerberg get caught with his elbow over the line. Way over the table. Beer pong. I just don't understand why glasses, smart glasses CEOs go out in public without wearing the smart glasses. Oh, he's not wearing them here. And it's like Evan is doing interviews all the time without, you know, wearing, you know, speaking, you know, at places like Sun Valley not wearing the glasses. Suck is, you know, all the time out in public doing things, not using the glasses. I mean, they make clear versions of them, right?

So if the glasses are, if the product's so good and everyone should buy them, shouldn't you have them on at least half the time that you're out socializing? I personally think if you see Jensen at a conference, he should be having an NVL 72 in a backpack. He should have a rack and he should be carrying it around. No, I did notice, so he was wearing a very special watch and everyone's, He's obsessed with Mark Zuckerberg's watch collection. He always debuts a new, unique piece every time he's on stage. But I think the watch thing, it's getting a little old.

I would like to see him get into cars a little more. And I'd like to see him drive on stage on like, you know, Gordon Murray T50. And do a quick burnout. Quick burnout, yeah, exactly. Something to show that he's not one-dimensional. No, my hot take about this beer pong elbow violation. is I don't care about these. I think that people who play beer pong and worry about elbow violations are pedantic and annoying. And I think that it violates the spirit of the game. So I think that there's no problem with this at all. I think if you're the type of person that's like, oh, you put your elbow over your nerd and you're not having fun and you're ruining the fun for everyone. And it doesn't actually make that much of a difference, whether you threw from two inches forward to two inches back. It's, I mean, it does make a difference, John.

Yes, yes. But the point is to just play. Like the gentleman, the gentleman is not, you might address it if it's habitual. Shane is saying, clearly. Shane is bringing, Shane is bringing up the bunkey in the chat. I think Zuck is going to have to get a proper setup, get down in the bunkey, spend two, three years in the bunky. Beer pot bunkey?

Yeah. I don't care about it. I think cheating is wrong. Oh, okay. You hold the line. Law and order guy. here. It's late.

We got to talk. Charm. Charm. Oh, yeah, the charm. The charm. The Tomic got you. This was added at the last second. Mike Isaac says, Mark does a one more thing with a new hardware device, AI agent called

Muse Charm. Voice activated and palm sized. Out in time for the holidays. This feels super smart. People already think Muse is super cute. It's a tech-enabled Labubu, basically. Which is extremely popular, like the most dominant consumer product of the last couple of years. And so it's distinctly sort of like outside of the tech bubble. The quirky

Laboooo is is not like the refined edge of like a cyber truck or even an Apple product. But meta has been sort of not blinded by the clean aesthetics. And instead they're like, yeah, this is just a cute, fun thing. And so people will actually like this. They know what people like. So, Avi Schiffman over at Friend responds. The market has spent billions trying to compete with me, and I'm still winning. Let's go. That is the right attitude. Right attitude.

That being said, I don't see people really using the Mews charm that much over time. Like, I think it's like a fun, I think it's a fun kind of like toy gimmick thing, but I think it's the kind of thing that people get. It's funny. It's worth doing for meta because it should. be, yeah, but they'll still be on it. It'll be, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be viral. And you can talk to it.

I like, yeah, let's see these like narrow one off hardware devices for like one interaction. Also, it's just like it's a, it is a more wide open space for them to sort of try and come into devices. Like you have the glasses. Then you get this. And it's like slowly they're eating into more of the device footprint in people's lives, even if it's at the smaller scale. And again, I would expect them to sell this just out of loss.

It's like good marketing for the core product. Do we have a price? I don't think we do. We don't have a price yet. But this feels like something that at most you price at like $99, but probably he tries. Like, again, he's selling a lot of hardware at negative. People are going to wear this as a watch potentially.

Like you're going to wind up with the AP swatch thing, right? Where people wrap this. For your most swagless friends. What's going on with Australia and Open AI? Tyler, you dug into this? So, Jority shared like the high level news, which is that as part of like the hugging face, rogue AI agents going all over, looking for everything on the internet, that Australia had been hacked.

But what actually happened here? Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the details are still not like fully revealed. The Australian prime minister was like really up in arms, like, oh, they hacked and they didn't tell us for, you know, weeks on end. But it seems like the consensus now is that, well, like, the hack was essentially that there were some, like, unlisted files that were still, like, publicly accessible. Yeah. But they're just, like, not listed anywhere.

Yeah. And then the agent, like, found those. Yeah. And so they're saying, like, oh, they hacked into us, but, you know, there was no, like, real personal identity revealed at all. And, like, these are private in the sense that, like, you can't just, like, Google search for them. You can navigate them.

There's no link if you just click a button. Yeah. But if you're scraping, if you're doing some kind of more sophisticated scraping thing. I have a funny story about that. In 2012, I had a buddy who was, I don't know, hacker, hacker-ish, software developer. Not actually like hacking into things, but just capable with computers. And he was scraping the, I think it was maybe Boston Dynamics, but it might have just been like a humanoid robot company at the time. and there was a, there's a tool where you can go and get like a list of files and URLs on a server. You can just ask for it as a web crawler.

You don't actually need to, you know, click through all the links and look at the HTML. You can just see, what does this server actually have? Let me go browse it. And one of the images was like an artist rendering of the humanoid, like with a gun, like full like murder bot mode that never made it to the publication. It was never like, yeah, we're going to do that. because it was like, we're still in friendly mode. We were like, wow, like that's wild.

So this, I mean, this stuff has happened, you know, years ago. And so not quite a hack. But certainly hacking equivalent of elbows over the table. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's accurate. Bentley's first electric car is set to be half the price of the Ferrari Luce.

The launch of the luxury carmaker's Torcal SUV is aimed at younger and first-time customers. What do you think are they over their skis with an EV at a time when people are sort of moving away from it? Or does it work for this particular luxury SUV buyer? Well, I don't think we're going to be seeing a lot because Bentley is just not selling a lot of cars right now. But I think the car looks great, minus the grill. Instead of recreating the V8 engine noise, the EV has a propulsion sound handcrafted by musicians with a unique blend of sounds. from percussion, crystal glass, birds, and the tapping of leather. So as you drive it, it sings you a song.

The Volkswagen-owned luxury brand said it had also completed a $350 million investment to design and build the Torcal at its plant and crew, bringing the total investment in the UK automotive sector to more than $1 billion. The EV launch comes at a challenging period for Bentley as it struggles with slowing demand in China, fallout from Middle East conflict, higher U.S. tariffs, as with the broader VW group. Bentley has slimmed its workforce as profits and vehicle deliveries have declined. It's serious. We have to bring back the competitiveness. We have to be quick. We have to work harder. You can hear this is the sound it makes when you drive it, I suppose. You hear the, oh, it's the

finger on the edge of the glass. Can you hear that? Was there anything else we need to talk about? Congratulations to Huberman Lab, Andrew Huberman, is number one on the New York Times, Better Sellers and advice, how to, and miscellaneous for protocols, an operating manual for the human body. You can go pick it up everywhere books are sold. Tyler's going to do it. Leave us five stars in Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Sign up for our newsletter at tbPN.com. And we will see you tomorrow.