Tea at Four - Age-gap relationships, Lily Allen’s post-break up tea and is going to a strip club cheating?
Episode Date: March 19, 2025This week, we dive into some Celebri-tea, including Louis Tomlinson’s new rumoured relationship, Lily Allen’s risky comments about her ex and how Cruise Beckham’s new girlfriend looks a bit like... his mum…This leads to debates about if age-gap relationships are acceptable, and if gender plays a role with this. Also, should we be bad-mouthing our exes? Lauren, Christie and Billy also tackle two dilemmas, one regarding a girl who’s boyfriend lied about going to a strip-club. Should attending a strip-club be considered cheating? If you have any dilemmas or confession you want us to read out anonymously, please send into teaatfour@junglecreations.com or DM us @teaatfourpod
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Hey guys, I'm Billy.
I'm Kristy.
And I'm Lauren and welcome back to this week's Quick Cuppa.
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We try to fill in the blanks of some of this week's most scandalous headlines.
Celebrity!
Everyone's got too much sugar today.
Cruz Beckham's girlfriend looks like his mom.
Mom.
Grandma.
Yeah.
Cruz Beckham who's going out with Jackie Apostle.
Is that Jackie Apostle?
Who's 29, 10 years his senior.
I don't think that's a problem.
Do you not?
10 years?
I agree.
You think it's a problem? No, I don't think that's a problem. Do you not? 10 years? I'm kind of a cougar.
You think it's a problem?
No, I don't know if like, I find it weird that he's 19 and she's older than what we are.
Not for you, Christie, sorry.
But those of us under the age of 29...
I'm right with you.
I'm right with you guys.
It is a little weird that he's 19, but I don't think a 10 year age gap,
like in a couple of years time,
that age gap's really not gonna be a problem.
Have you seen him though?
He looks, let's say 14 years old.
No, he doesn't.
He looks older than 19.
Have you seen him?
Yeah, I saw a picture.
And he looks, he's given quite, you know,
quite old for his age.
He looks like his room smells like B.O. and X-Box.
Oh my gosh.
I don't believe that David and Posh.
I don't believe that.
I do feel like when you're a celebrity, you age quicker.
And I do feel a lot of like Gen Z's, they look older than they actually are.
Yeah, but we're still not taking away from the fact that he was born in 2000 and what is it, four?
Really? The Spice Girls had been together, split up, and she'd already had four kids by then.
Who had? Three kids. Victoria. Yeah, but she's not, he's not going out with his mum.
No, I'm saying Jackie, as Jackie has been alive, she's 29 years of age, and in 2004, the Spice Girls had been
together, already split up, and Jackie's lived however many years of age and in 2004 the Spice Girls had been together already split up and Jackie's lived
However many years of her life Jackie was only 10 in 2004. My point was he was born in 2004 and I find that a bit weird
I would have done a couple of years ago, but I think when you realize that people born in 2007 like
2007 now 18 that makes no sense
2004 but like it's just I don't know. I don't think that that's the weirdest age gap relationship
I've ever seen. I think that's fine. Yeah
Yeah, and I do think there is a very recurring theme of boys wanting to go for older ladies and I see it
I understand it. Yeah, I think like both sides though, isn't there like there's always people know what they want
That's bad isn't hugely. Like there's always people like what they want. That's fair.
Isn't hugely, I don't have a huge opinion on this.
I think if he was below the age of 18,
there would be a, I see a problem with that
cause he's not an adult, but even though he's like a,
he's like a newish adult.
It's weird in the context that he probably
part-time lives in America with his family
and he can't drink there.
21.
21?
Do you know what I mean?
So like the age of adult being an adult there. 21. Do you know what I mean? So like the age of being an adult there.
21. Yeah, I think, but then again, it's like who seduced who? Who moved to who? Did he move to her
or did she move to him? I mean, I don't think I would date someone that's 10 years younger than me.
Younger. No. It's weird that with it, gender roles reversed maybe. That's what I think. I think
everyone would have a problem with it if it was the other way around.
If she was 19, if he was 29 and she was 19.
And they have been like,
just a bit weird we're all being a bit quiet now.
If Victoria and Beckham, Victoria and Beckham.
If David and Victoria are happy then who the heck,
you know, we can't be happy.
I don't see it for me. I mean, also, like like actually even if Victoria and David aren't happy it's not really their
say. Their son is now 19.
Yeah man he's a big boy.
I think parents would like the idea of their teen son being with an older woman because
it keeps them on the straight and narrow. They kind of know where they're going with
their life. They can look after them like a babysitter.
I find that quite interesting because I feel like parents' opinion would be different if their
daughter was going out someone who is 10 years older than them. Yeah but that's a man's issue
because they're not mature. That's what I mean like that's where I find the comparison slightly
different isn't it? I'm gonna take one now. Go on. Zara McDermott sparks rumors she's blank One Direction star.
Oh yeah, dating.
Slept.
Slept One Direction star.
Oh.
Pardon.
Are you awake today?
Zara Dermot, whoa.
Zara McDermott sparks rumors
she's dating One Direction star.
It's Louis Tomlinson, isn't it?
Louis Tomlinson.
Yeah, both of them are pretty boring people really.
Don't be nasty about my Louis. I know but that is that headline is scraping me. Can someone just show
me how Louis looks like? What does Louis look like? Louis looks like that character from Flushed Away.
Oh I love him, I love him. Because I know I know I, I know, I just can't picture Louie in my head.
Exactly. Most people can't because he's the one member of One Direction that everyone forgets about.
I'm not having that slander. I'm actually not. I'm not having that slander.
My best friend actually met Louie Tomlinson in the smoking area in Cirque in London and she showed
him her One Direction tattoo. Oh, the one with the mushroom hair.
Mushroom hair. They all had mushroom hair at one point, to be fair.
I mean, that's an old pic, but.
Oh, they're dating. Good for them.
Well, the 1D fans are going to come for you.
How does that make the news?
Honestly.
Lily Allen mocked David and other exes for not blank blank blank in the bedroom.
For not blank, three blanks?
Yeah, three blanks.
I was going to say something like not pleasuring her or...
Oh, yeah.
For not pleasuring her vagina in the bedroom.
In the bedroom.
Actually satisfying her in the bedroom.
Prioritizing her, yeah.
Oh, who's David?
He was in Stranger Things.
She was married to him recently
and then she found out that he was on.
Was it Grindr?
No, not Grindr.
On a dating app, Mariah.
Oh gosh, you don't want to be known as that guy
that prioritizes themselves in the bedroom,
doesn't make a girl see you on Tuesdays.
Yeah, I also feel like Lily Allen is the type of person that would like love to spill those
kind of secrets.
So he was a bit of a silly boy for messing around with her then.
Yeah.
Do you think it's okay that she's done this?
No, because if it was the other way around, they'll be up for all.
Yeah, I kind of feel like it's a little tacky
to talk about, like, to slag your partners off.
And do you know what I mean?
You're steeping to a level where you think that, like,
this is only to hurt them or embarrass them.
And they're kind of like, I mean, if that's true,
you know, sorry about it.
But it just feels like a bit of a tacky
move. Yeah, I think it's always better to be the bigger person and stooping to like humiliation
is only going to make you look just as, not just as bad. Yeah, that's the thing, like I feel like
people have an opinion on, you know, most people probably find it funny, but then there's also
people that were on her side, but now feel like she's kind of being a bit, I don't want to say classless.
Yeah.
I think it's okay to have those type of conversations with like your friends and stuff,
but then to kind of like air it out, it's like, why are you airing your dirty laundry?
Because then what if he's like, okay, cool, you said this, I'm going to say that about you.
Then it's a whole back and forth thing. And then also it does then spew for people online
to be like, oh my God, yeah, my, this person
has had, wasn't, this is that.
And now you're kind of like-
We all have bad days, you know?
We all have bad sessions.
What about bad penis sizes?
Is that what she's talking about as well?
Yeah, she's mentioned that as well.
That is so sad.
I'm mortifying.
And that's frustrating as well.
That's something you can't change.
Don't stoop so low you're commenting
on the physical appearance or the kind of-
It's cheap shots.
The girth.
To me, it kind of sits in the same category
of tacky early noughties conversations.
I feel like very mean girl spirited,
very like, how old is she, like 40?
It's giving play around gossip.
I think I feel like we all should have matured into kind of like, just don't talk about them anymore.
100%.
Yeah, it's none of our business. Get over it.
Precisely.
Thank you.
You do you babes and focus on you because you are amazing.
Don't talk about him.
And get vibrated or something.
Yeah.
Married Danny Jones scene blank. I'm a celeb co-star, Maura Higgins at Brit's after party.
Scene kissing.
Not her getting the fanny flutters.
What?
That's what Maura said on the show.
Oh, okay.
I thought you were.
I don't mean that.
No, she said, my fanny is trabbing.
Oh, I'm scared there.
So since this, Danny Jones has actually been accused
of calling the paps on recording him
and his wife of doing like a retribution walk.
Yeah because the photos are very like most a lot of celebrities have like contacts with
like paparazzi and they were like Diana Princess Diana did it it's how the Kardashians basically
built up their fame.
They would let paparazzi know and it's all start part of like strategic PR, isn't it?
Because clearly they're going to stay together, but they need to convince the public that
they're working on things without putting out a statement.
Who gives a...
I mean, again, another group of celebs I'm not really interested in.
But that Danny was on Loose Men.
Why am I going to sit and listen to him? I know, I actually quite liked him on, more annoyingly, I really liked Maura on I'm a
Celeb and I was a big fan of Maura and I don't think this is a good look for you girl.
Yeah, it's a bit peak how everyone's obviously focusing on Danny for being the one in a relationship
but equally Maura, you never want to be that girl.
She's better than that. I think that's her type of, um, that's her, that's her, what's the word, her brand.
I feel like she's the, she's that they've branded her that the mischievous.
The little Jezebel.
Like not the Jezebel, but the one that gets away with anything.
The little what?
Femme Patel.
What does that mean?
It's like Britney's album.
It's like a thing from the 19, early cinema, like film noir.
It was kind of like this stereotype of this evil villain female character that would come
in and seduce the man.
And it was very kind of like, a bit of a bad stereotype, but it was always kind of seen
as like this sexy vixen that comes in.
Like in Love Actually, the girl that steals Alan Rickman.
Yeah.
Or what's the film?
With the barb.
Where she crosses her legs and reveals her.
I feel like with Moira, she can get away with it
because she can take it.
She's got quite a snappy manner.
So I feel like she can take it.
So regardless of the bad press,
I don't think it's bad press for her.
I don't think any bad press is bad press for Moira.
Well, there's another article saying Moira Higgins
really struggling after the Tony Jones backlash.
I feel like we say that no bad press is bad press
until you're actually in the press.
And if it affects you mentally,
then it's obviously not good for your mental health, is it?
And I feel like she's obviously getting
a lot of slack from this.
Apparently she's fled to America.
Oh, well at least she's fled to America. Oh
Well, at least you can fucking hell I got caught doing something bad. I can't go to
LA so this is the part of the podcast where we respond to some dilemmas that have been sent into us by you the listeners
Should we go for it? First one I've been with my boyfriend for almost eight years recently during a couple's game
I pulled a card asking if he's ever been to a strip club. I've been with my boyfriend for almost eight years recently during a couple's game I pulled a card asking if he's ever been to a strip club. I
Confidently said I already know the answer is no, but he replied actually I have and told me it happened a year ago
He says he mentioned it at the time
But I'm hurt because I was clear early in our relationship that going to a strip club was a boundary for me
Should I break up over this or try to work through it?
Oh, break up's quite harsh.
Yeah, man. Yeah.
I think this is a very common dilemma, actually,
and I'm interested to hash this out.
Okay. Because although going
to a strip club is not cheating,
it is an environment where
you can't keep your fucking head down, can you?
You can't be sat in the corner being like, I'm not gonna lie.
I've been to a shrimp club in Miami and I hated it.
Really?
Because the girls are very light forward and they're literally in your face.
Even if you're like, no, or like you're just standing there.
It's not for the faint hearted.
It's not.
And like, it's just a lot going on.
So I do get her being hurt by it,
but I don't think it's something
that you should break up from.
But then also you never know how your guy
is in that environment around his friends as well.
So then you've got all that thoughts that,
those type of thoughts that are in your head as well
going like, okay, cool, you went and you didn't tell me,
or you did tell me, it was a year ago, but why didn't you? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's
a bit of a hard, it's a hard one. It is like sometimes I'm like, oh, well what's the difference
between them watching porn and then going to a strip club? But actually it is a step further than
porn because you're interacting with another female and you have the only reason that you're
there is because there's a sexual pleasure that you're receiving
Whether it's actually physical or if it's just kind of like in person
It depends also like she says it's in her like her boundaries are that she's not comfortable with it. And if he's not
Respected that then there is an issue and if he won't respect it again
Because you know if some people in their relationship say like it doesn't bother me you can do what you want
That's fine. But she's clearly said that that's not okay with me. So yeah, I would dump him
It's just the open and honesty about it
like I think if you picture a lot of these situations say if you're with a group of lads, it's stag do or something and
They're all saying we all want to go into the strip club
Rarely gonna have the one or two guys that are going to say,
no, I respect my girlfriend realistically.
Yeah. So I'm just trying to think as well.
If you turn it around the other way, even though women don't really frequent
strip clubs as much as much as I know, what about something like Magic Mike?
How is it the same thing?
Is it slightly different? I think it's a violation because
I think the violation, a friend of mine had a birthday party and had a guy come and do that.
I was the youngest one there, but I was like,
guys, you can't do this. You have a boyfriend.
You have a boyfriend. You have a boyfriend.
You can't be looking at another guy's penis.
Stop doing that. It's crazy.
And obviously they're there to do their job,
so they're going to go and give you the full experience, right?
So let's say, for instance, you touched the guy's chest
or you slapped the guy's bum or X, Y, Z. That's... Yeah, so let's say for instance you touch the guy's chest or you slap the guy's bum or xyz. That's
Yeah
Do not seem one step worse than that though before I got this job and I was at uni I worked at a job
No, not quite I worked at job at and at the hotel they had this karaoke room and
every weekend there would be like a private party or a hen-doo. And a hen-doo came in
one time and I was just on the bar and then a mouse dripper came in and I was just kind
of like, can I leave? And I just had to kind of like stay there manning the bar.
Oh my God.
Hello, can I get you anything?
Oh, yeah.
It's hard.
And it's as well like, the more I watch these films
where it's like these girls that just make a living
and they can make a good living out of dancing.
Oh yeah, respect the crap, the grind.
Yeah, they probably are quite detached
from the whole flirting, trying to, I don't know.
I think what you said when it's like,
it depends on the scenario, like have they gone
on their own, or have they gone with like one friend
and it's just the two of them,
or have they gone in a large group?
And it's kind of like, I don't want to do this,
but I'm, do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like there is a kind of like different boundary there,
I think.
Yeah.
But again, I think she's more upset that like,
she only found out in the moment around friends.
A hundred percent.
Which I guess is why it's fueling the breakup motive.
And then how dare you even say it in front of the friends?
Like you couldn't tell me in private you want to say it in front of friends to kind of
load the blow?
Yeah, it's loading the blow.
Now we're going to talk about it because you're cheeky.
And you're just trying to one up her in that situation.
Yeah, don't embarrass me.
Actually, that's where it kind of comes in a bit. So dump him for that. No don't dump him, put him on timeout. Yeah timeout. Separate from him. Oh
oh. Cut him off. Eight years. Have a break. Yeah. Oh yeah eight years actually that's not the respect that you put on the
fuck off. He can leave. Whoa. Wait did you say they were to go for eight years? Yeah. I'm sorry that's not good.
You don't do that. Yeah. But that's
nothing. I don't think that's something to break up from. No, but you give them a severe,
wait, give them a severe, not even warning, like your punishment. I hear it, but that's
embarrassing. You're embarrassing me. Castrate him. Oh yeah. That's it. That's the one I was
looking for. I don't think break up eight years to break up over him going to the show. Yeah,
but eight years to not be honest and open with me
And then me find out my hands. They happen last year. So it only happened last year
Yeah, he's been going to sleep at night knowing that he's a dirty cheating liar
Last year they're like five four years
No, I think it's even worse if it's like it's seven years down the line then's still not acceptable. I don't think that's something to break up with eight years. Not
break up with, but it's a big, it's couples therapy. Put him on time out and really, you
know, make his last three, four months. Sleep with his brother. Oh hell no! Yeah. What in
the story line is this? Hire a private stripper, bring him in and make him watch you watching the stripper.
Absolutely, we've now that. No, we don't do tit for tat here. I personally feel like just talk it out,
stand your ground, make him feel bad and then continue the relationship. Don't end it because of that.
Okay.
Make him do the bins for the rest of his life.
There you go.
In a thong.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Oh la la.
I'm in an open relationship and create content on OnlyFans,
but a former close friend of mine
recently started following my account
and is getting a bit too personal,
commenting on my body, even hinting at meeting up. The issue is they're married to my ex best friend and now their
spouse is reaching out saying my content is causing problems in their marriage. I feel
guilty but also don't want to censor myself. My current partner says they support me but
I've noticed some possessive behaviour when they watch my content. Should I step back
from OnlyFans to avoid drama
or is it okay to prioritise my own boundaries
even if it affects others?
I think the easiest thing to do is to kind of just focus
on the relationship you have with your partner
and the boundaries you have with them.
A lot of the time people get really worked up about,
you know, this friend, that friend,
everything kind of adds into it. But
you need to, providing that your boundaries are set with your partner and that is strong,
then I think you can focus on whether like, I don't think you should stop doing only fans.
No, and it's also kind of what you sign up for, not to say that you're allowing people,
close friends to have access to your body in your life but putting your body and your bits on a platform which is for everyone you can't really stop certain
people from... Can you not block the clock? You should be able to. I think you can.
Because if they're subscribed and they pay you should surely be able to
terminate their subscription. Yeah I think also they're clearly uncomfortable by this person.
I think the best way to do is to be like, cut that out.
That's your bread and butter.
I agree.
I think you should set boundaries to the people and you know,
focus on you, your partner, you know,
only fans if you're enjoying it and you're seeing like success
on there, you should absolutely continue doing that.
And then cut everyone else out.
Yeah.
I have heard of a couple situations actually
of people having only fans
and then people in their hometown subscribing to them
and then commenting on their...
Like ex-teachers.
Hey!
Happened to me.
It can be...
What?
She obviously knows.
It can be quite dark,
but it's kind of what you sign up for putting your body on a subscription
site like that.
Everyone has access to you and it's scary but just focus on you and yours.
Thank you for watching.
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