Tea at Four - Defending GK Barry, dirty belly buttons and an acne patch debate

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

This week's Tea At Four is full of juicy gossip and heavy debates... We come to GK Barry's defence regarding the recent Bonnie Blue controversy. Billy sparks outrage with the girls by claiming that ac...ne patches are childish and embarrassing, and we also answer an audience question concerning dirty belly buttons... PLUS Christie shares her dating app experiences and Lauren remembers that she based her university choice on Harry Styles.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi guys, welcome back to Tl4, I'm Christy. I'm Billy. And I'm Lauren. And this is a podcast where we talk all things that normally stay in the group chat. Okay, so we've got a submission this week. I'm gonna read it out. Tell me what you guys think. Hello. Last week I went on a date with a guy who was a full germaphobe, clean freak. Those words sound bad so I want to add that he was a lovely person. His words sound bad so I want to add that he was a lovely person. He mentioned that one body part that we all neglect is our belly buttons and it made me realise I never specifically clean my belly button until now. I didn't know we needed to. Did you girls know this?
Starting point is 00:00:35 Do you do this? When I got home I had a deep clean of my belly button and I was shocked how dirty it was. He advised using cotton buds with soap which felt really weird in there at first. I mentioned this on our girly whatsapp group and they were all the same as me. They had never properly cleaned their belly buttons. One of my friend has an outie so it wasn't as bad, but the rest of us innies had so much crud. Is this not something we should be taught?
Starting point is 00:00:58 What the fuck is crud? I'm getting like crumbs, crumbs, crumbs, crumbs and all the nasty things. Yeah biscuits on your belly. Can you stop in there? Do you know what I was giving Mr. Twits what's the bar mold out the twits? They have all the crumbs like corn flakes in their beards. Oh my another niche restaurant restaurant restaurant.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Take me there. Oh my favorite restaurant. I would guess when you're in the shower, like the soap goes in there and it comes out, right? Yeah. Same vibe as the legs. Like I never wash my legs. I wash my legs. I wash my legs. Like you've got to... Scrub your legs. Who's going near the legs? I will say though that I actually always love having a little feel in my belly button and picking something out In the shower! That is fucking digital footprint
Starting point is 00:01:49 It's normal! That's horrific Like dust and things and particles always get stuck in there It's true, I have cleaned it once I'm not gonna lie, I have cleaned it once with the cotton buds I've never done that And it's kind of like a weird kind of like weird feeling, it's like ooo
Starting point is 00:02:03 No No? It's giving same character as You know, they're like, you shouldn't actually clean your ears with cotton buds. It's like, I shouldn't actually be playing with my belly button with. I disagree. You should be cleaning your belly button. Because if you think about it, since you were a baby, all the particles and bacteria in there, that's... I don't think that's still in there.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I've cleaned my belly button since I had an umbilical cord flapping out of it. Yeah. But like how thoroughly since that primary I would say that all those dirt have gone by now. Yeah. Because the way that the way she read that submission, it was like, but like, no, unlike you're imagining like on a random Tuesday, just find a bit of placenta, like, I fucking miss that bit. No, that's nasty. That's nasty. I personally think that like picking your belly button is the same as picking your nose, and I love both.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I would rather pick my nose than my belly button. Why? Because I feel like, you know what it is, the belly button is so close to the stomach. What if you pick it too much and then you start internally bleeding? I do actually get scared of that. Honey, honey.
Starting point is 00:03:02 No, but come on. You're not gonna, that's not gonna happen. You never know. No, but come on. That's not going to happen. You never know. Sorry, who has not done a biology lesson now? Thank you very much. There is a weird thing amongst belly buttons though, because mine is like, looks like a never ending hole. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And then my boyfriend's is like a swimming pool. It's like a small jacuzzi. It just goes like, and I think you can see all the way in there. You don't need to clean that type of belly button, but mine it's just like, oh, neverending story. So is that like an outie? No. Is it an innie?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Innie, your boyfriend's one? No, like an innie, but it's like rounded sculpted. Shallow innie. My perfect god. A little puddle. Sculpted prince. Oh, anything. Yeah, maybe we should all start cleaning our belly buttons and the warm hygiene.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I'll try it in 2025. Yeah, New Year's resolution, babes. It's like my head is nowhere near that. Like it's just kind of outside out mind. Same like toe jam. I suppose when my belly's a lot bigger than yours, I always rest my hands on it. So then I'm like, ooh, and it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Whilst I'm here. Whilst we're here, this little finger phones is my in. I am screaming. It's not like you can smell your belly button. I've never smelled it though. I'm putting that out there. You fucking lie. You haven't.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You lie. I have not. You smell it. I've not smelled it. That makes me feel sick. Okay. I know that's gonna be gross, but also like, do you not ever pick your toe jam?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Like when you get fluff off your socks. No. You're not talking about socks, you're going in between, in between and around the house, in the house, into the house. No. In the house and around the garden. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We're all human. It's true. There's all sorts of smells and everything. There's the back of your ears, there's between your toes. Yeah. I just think that out of that, we all need to learn. The one class of people wants. Do you know what it is? At least she learned something new from going out on a date with
Starting point is 00:04:49 this guy because if she didn't she would never learn about belly button hygiene. Yeah. Belly button hygiene. Belly button hygiene. I'm here for it. Yeah so 2025 we'll be cleaning our belly buttons. Yes. Yeah thanks I guess. Yeah but so 2025 we'd be cleaning our billy buttons. Yes. Yeah, thanks I guess. But also don't know if cotton buds are the right apparatus. So maybe look that up online. Right. Stay safe out there.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Well. Think before you clean. I like that. See it, say it, sort it. Okay. Oh my God, what's going on in the group chat guys. So you see how dating is one of our lovely topics that we like to talk about.
Starting point is 00:05:27 So obviously the streets are cold. The streets are terrible right now. So your girl has downloaded all the dating apps in the world. Try to warm up Grindr. Not Grindr. Not Grindr, Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, Badoo. What the hell is a Badoo? A Badoo, look at that Badoo.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Badoo, Lovefinder, all of them. I'm trying to find said person because I don't think said person's in the streets. No. And you've got no more trips to Barbados. I've got no more trips to Barbados. So it's, you know guys, I was definitely not the person for it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I was like, I would never be on there. I couldn't do it. But I just said, if I don't try, I ain't going to find. So how's it going? So far so good. Some weirdos. Yeah, that's weird. Some weirdos online.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I feel like what is killing me is the voice prompt app on this. No, I hate that. Delete it. Delete that from the coding of the whole, where was that? Gone. I think that's also a sign that that person is going to be a voice noter and I hate voice notes. I would rock them.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I don't mind that. But with people I know though. I will know. Voice notes with people I know is even worse. Really? No, but guys, I'm a type of person, like if you've got a good voice, I don't mind listening to it. If your voice is terrible, don't call me.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Don't treat me like I want to be able to melt over the phone when you're talking to me. Do you get it? Surely people that only think their voice is pang are the voice noters though? Not all of them. Oh, yeah. Or they think they're really funny. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see that hinge thing I sent to you last night on TikTok?
Starting point is 00:07:01 It was of someone that has obviously unmatched someone on Hinge. And then this person had gone into their Instagram DMs, found them by going like, Kayleigh teacher, fucking, Monstersery what, what's that place? Mississippi. Monstersery nursery where I was brought up. Monsters and Kite.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah. He'd found her and been like, hello Kayleigh, weird glitch on the app and it seems that I've lost you on there, which is funny because I just went to message you. Like man, I'm going crazy. Maybe it's the fact that he assumed that she accidentally, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:38 accidentally unfollowed, unmatched or glitched. Yeah. Benefit of the doubt, I do always think that when someone unmatches me, it's like, oh, they must have deleted the app or something. Yeah. That can't like that. Benefit of the doubt, I do always think that when someone unmatches me, it's like, oh, they must have deleted the apple or something. Yeah. That can't be me. They've had enough of looking for love now.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But you know what, do you know what's actually kind of scary? Like I matched with a guy. Yeah, he looked nice looking, very, very lovely. And then he deleted his hinge profile. So now I'm thinking, were you a catfish? Oh no, Kristin, I feel you're being the person now. You're being... Do you think you're the catfish?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Ha ha! Do you think? You're like... Ha ha ha! Because when we were talking, they did say they don't have social media. And I feel like... They always say that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 No, but I feel like in this day and age, it's okay if you don't have social media, because I would rather... Okay, guys, is it a problem? Guy had a girlfriend, probably. Do you think? They never just delete that, no one does that. Confession, one of them on Bumble actually,
Starting point is 00:08:33 we started talking and we jumped onto Instagram and then he was like, oh yeah, he's going on a spa weekend on the weekend. I was like, okay, cool, that's nice, enjoy the spa weekend. Who's going on a spa weekend? Hold on. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So he's gone on the spa weekend now, right? Put on his story, you know, him in, it looked like a caravan, kind of like camper, you know, not Benidorm. Caravan? No, you know them- I'm so confused. You know them city breaks where you go in a cabin, cabin breaks.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Right. Right. Turns out it's actually half term. So he's not at the spa break. He's going to take his family out for a cabin weekend. He told me it was a spa. He fucking wishes it was a spa. So he's going to Centre Parks. He's going to Centre Park. But then watching his story, I was like, wow, people can lie. Because you told me you're going to the spa. So I'm thinking, what's the name of the spa?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Because that's a cabin. Well, maybe like giving me the benefit of the doubt. No. Dinner Parks does have a spa. No, because when- Is he saying he's not had kids though? Yeah, and when he was setting up breakfast, there was more than enough plates to feed a family there.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So- Oh no, she's counting the plates. She's on the story like- When's Dinner Parks my friends? Yeah, but then say you're going with friends. Don't say you're going by yourself. I think that would be a red flag first. Exactly. Go to the spa on your own.
Starting point is 00:09:50 For a weekend? I know it's 2024 and I'm all about like, starting with dates, but that's not, that's not so to say. No, I think that's weird. Right, so I think this is the only reason why I'm kind of like, I'm giving dating apps a try, but at the same time I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm about my wits because I'm like, I'm going to fact check all the receipts that you've told me, just in case. As you should. Yeah. I think a dating golden rule should be, don't add the person on Instagram. If you've met on a dating app,
Starting point is 00:10:15 or even if you've met in real life, don't go on their Instagram. One, you're already finding out things about them, because you know we fucking scroll. Yeah. You've found out all the things that you probably want to ask anyway naturally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And three, I get the ex so fucking easy from Agreed. Instagrams. Don't let it put you off before you've, you know, had the face to face interaction. But then what do you do when it's like they ask number socials? Be patient.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, I know. I completely agree because everyone is so like it feels like a natural step when you're talking to someone to be like, Oh, what's your Instagram? But actually, I'm gonna put out there, I don't think there's a single person who I like on social media. Everyone has a different the person that someone is on Instagram, I'm the exact same, like I curate stuff and like everyone thinks that they're portraying this different character. And it's nowhere close to the real them.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm not saying I dislike anyone on social media, but I agree and you're gonna get a different idea of them. You already start making perceptions about a person and I think if you truly are committed to building a relationship, having a slow burn, stop cutting out all the middle grounds of working out where did you grow up? What did you do last weekend? Oh, it doesn't matter because I've already fucking seen on your Instagram stories. You know?
Starting point is 00:11:31 I think also when people like try to portray like clean girl aesthetic on Instagram or like, you know, like different vibes, but in real life, they're not that vibe. You're giving mixed signals and then you're kind of developing a relationship that doesn't, isn't going to work. True, it's two different personas. Wow, come through. Click. Come through the advice guys.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So note to self, forget their social media, but that one, he just threw me all the way off. Yeah. He's still there on socials, but we don't. Keep it that way. Yeah, he's probably still at the spa. Mute him on Insta so you don't have to see him. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:03 There you go. What's new with me? Keep it that way. Yeah, don't really sit at the spa. Mute him on Insta so you don't have to see him. There you go. There you go. What's new with me? Nothing interesting, but something that kind of ticks me off this week. Not ticks me off, but I thought was just like, why are you doing that?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Oh. Those star spot patches. Pimple patches. Pimple patches. I just think people look like five-year-olds with them on. Whoa. Coming from someone that's never had a spot. Sorry. Yeah, this annoyed me and I saw someone else, we know, do a fucking, it's clearly there,
Starting point is 00:12:31 everyone feels like attacking the acne community this week. But no, I feel like they actually do work and they cover up a spot. And in my opinion, genuinely, when I've been in my most insecure, unconfident moments, I would generally walk around with a little spa, spa?
Starting point is 00:12:48 I wanna go to the spa. A little star sticker, rather than a fucking oozing cystic acne spot. I usually put what's called toothpaste on my spot. So you want me to walk around with toothpaste dots on my face? I would rather the star. Sorry, but you're not Olivia Rodrigo.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, come on. You go walking out with like little stickers all over your face. What are you doing? rather the star sorry but you're not a love you Rodrigo like come on you go walking out with like little stickers all over your face what you doing you know like playing around with kids like working in a preschool kids star stickers for putting on your well-done chart what would you rather just wear a spot or even like where they spot. I use clear circle ones though. Yeah. Yeah. They're fine. I just have an issue with like how like childish they look. Oh my god. You think stars are childish. Exactly. Sorry. They are childish. The last time I saw a child was in your five star book. So, the guy that hates stickers has stickers on his bleeding phone case. Okay then. Well it's the work phone actually, it's a joint four nine phone and they were your stickers.
Starting point is 00:14:14 They're not on my face. They're not on my face. What, how does it affect you? Well I just have to look at them, I'm sorry but like if you saw me with this stupid little sticker on my face because I'm too embarrassed to my spot, do I look like an idiot? No, you don't. I think that's very old fashion of you to call me an idiot because I decided to come to my spot
Starting point is 00:14:31 with something decorated. I'm sorry, but okay, I say actually turning around people that have been, you know, a little bit embarrassed. Thank you. Even wearing like a clear spot patch, I think is actually drawing more attention to that I've got a spot. They're trying to see how is it oozing underneath there. Give me the star.
Starting point is 00:14:49 The stars are bright yellow. They're the first thing you see on someone's face and I just think, is that supposed to be there or have you done that by mistake? No, but Billy I'm perfect and I don't have hormonal spots because I was part of it. I've got one right now but you don't see a star on my face. That's you. People put stars on them. They can do and that's my opinion on when they do it. That's my opinion. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Next, the next episode, I'm wearing those stars. You do it. My fucking face is gonna be ace, girl. I mean, go for it girls. You do you, yeah, but that's just my, that is my opinion on those silly little stickers that'll be on your silly little faces. Our faces are not silly and the stickers are not silly.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No, I'm joking. That is very horrible. No, but the joy is I feel like whoever created the pimple patches, kudos to you guys, because honestly, you guys are building confidence on girls that don't want to go out without their spots on show. So, mm. True.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I actually think you're ruining the self-confidence of a lot of women out there that need to embrace their beauty. Do you know what? Wow. Wow. Also, it's a lot to do with like antibacterial hygiene and stuff like.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah. Okay, fine. Do like. It's quite actually like. I'm not saying that like they're a bad invention. I just don't think when you go out in public, you should wear them. I mean, you wear them and then you take them off, Billy. They're not on your face 24 seven. But when I, why am I seeing them in public, you should wear them. I mean, you wear them and then you take them off, Billy.
Starting point is 00:16:05 They're not on your face 24 seven. But why am I seeing them in public? Yeah, maybe they're going somewhere. Where are they going home? Yeah, fine. You only see it for a minute. You're not seeing it like, they're not gonna stand right next to you.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Hello, I was spot right in your face. You are, you have been and you do and you will. A person with star pimple patches hates to see Billy coming. Right, literally. Oh my God. I'm just saying every time I see Billy Cummings. Right, literally! Oh my god! I'm just saying, every time I see them, they're just like, oh you've got a spot. Alright, we get it. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's my opinion. Alright. Well, in other news, we spent more of our wages on tickets! Woo! We got Primavera tickets. What is that? Which is a festival. It's a festival in Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And we went a couple of years ago and it was carnage. Yeah. It was actually quite bad. It's called Primavera Sound, but we couldn't fucking hear anything. I'm screaming. Amazing after that we were like, shot go again.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Soon as they put this line up in front of our eyes. Splendid. So who's on the line up? Three, two, one. Sabrina Carpenter, Charli XCX. Chapel Rowan, Charli XCX.
Starting point is 00:17:12 People that I don't listen to. The current girlies, they are also known as the Power Pop Girls. Like Power Pop Girls. Power Pop Girls, because they each wear a different color. Like Charli XCX is known for her green, Sabrina's known for her little baby blue,
Starting point is 00:17:27 and Chappell's known for pink. So people are just like, that is so, canty! Wow. When you add it all up together, the Sabrina Carpenter tickets that we got that were way overpriced, secondhand, which might be fake, Primavera tickets, and potentially Glastonbury tickets, which are probably gonna have the exact same lineup,
Starting point is 00:17:43 that's enough to put down a mortgage on a house. Yeah. Stop. That was a joke, but I had a run and sinker. No. So wait, you're basically seeing them how many times next year? We're seeing all of them again in different cities, different fonts. We're not seeing the chapel on Charlie. Yeah, but we might see them at Glast and Charlie. Yeah but we might see the cast of Marie.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah we might too. Do you want us, I'm here for it. I feel like any festival concert that is outside of London or outside of England, go ahead. You think but it's actually a ball lakes go to a festival in a different country. Oh my god it's like thankfully I had the intuition to do this but the night before the tickets went on sale, I messaged the group and was like, I've got a feeling that the hotel prices are going to double. We should just book one now, free cancellation, pay at the hotel. Silence from everyone. So I just sit there and I do it.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I book for everyone. So I was there playing with my star spot. Really? He was, I was. I was tapping, you were tapping. Well. And I booked it, fine, we got tickets. And then the next day we look at all the other competing hotels and the room that we could,
Starting point is 00:18:53 the room that we've got, everything is like doubled in price. Wow. It's so expensive. What an angel. So well done. Ah. Well done you guys. So yeah, that's just us.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'll be at the next one. I've actually never been to a festival, so that would be. A festival? A festival? I've been to, is wireless a festival? Yeah, wireless is a festival. Yeah, but that's wireless. That's in my back garden. It's always a big no.
Starting point is 00:19:17 This one you wouldn't camp at. We need to get a hotel for. Yeah, I would love to do that. Oh my God, let's find a festival, next festival that we can go to in the UK. Let's do that. Yeah, I'll be there. Yeah, so in other news with SME, obviously One Direction have had a slight resurgence the last couple of weeks with the news. But in other jolted memories that were just put into my consciousness before bed the other night.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I was just reminded of this awful time of my life, a very delusional time of my life. It wasn't awful, it was actually really happy. But all this One Direction news reminded me of this time that I was picking my university choices. And let me just tell you what they were. Okay. University of Manchester.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I know where this is going. I picked that one. No, I know where this is going. Because? Harry Styles. It is near Holmes Chapel where Harry Styles lived. Second one, University of Sheffield. It's where Harry Styles' sister went to uni.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And the third one, University of Brighton, because that's where Zoella lived and she got to interview One Direction. That's a far fetch. I fucking know. So wait. And also which one did you go to? Yeah. University of Brighton.
Starting point is 00:20:33 To become a journalist to get here so I could just at least try and get in there. I was fucking delulu. That is so unserious. Like I sat there writing a personal statement. I'm going, yeah, these are the universities that I really want to excel in, I really want to do well.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Back of your mind. They're actually good Unis though. Yeah, but Sheffield is fucking six hours away from the Isle of Wight. I wasn't even thinking what I was doing. Also sister left Uni like four years before or something. True. I was like, I gotta be at this one.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I mean, the passion, I hear it, you know, to be close to. That's not passion, that's like restraining order. But back then it was passion, right? Because you made sure you got into those unis and you picked them. No, that's still restraining order. Picking a uni based on your favorite pop stars, like tiniest, tiniest attachment to them, like crazy. Yeah, but look at me now.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Look at her now. Nowhere closer to Harry Styles. It's actually embarrassing. That's really bad. She's been in certain situations where you've you know crossed paths with him though. That's nothing to do with her uni. But it doesn't matter if she didn't have that inkling of that one and that urge then it wouldn't have happened. She manifested it man. Come on give her her flowers. Yeah. I don't think that you were manifesting it. Just for context, I didn't even look at the course or go to the uni campus or the accommodation. It was purely just the vibes.
Starting point is 00:21:51 The vibes. Okay, now I have to take that. Because that's the madness. That's the madness. So what did you tell your parents? Oh, they didn't care. They didn't know you went to uni. They were just like, this is a, literally.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Speaking of unis, has everyone seen what's been popping up on TikTok this week with Bonnie Blue? How could you miss it? Yeah, thoughts, feelings. If I ever saw Bonnie Blue on my siblings or nephews because they're going to unis, like for you page or search bar, I would be on their neck. I'll be taking them to their courses,
Starting point is 00:22:28 their lecture room and back because that is crazy. Yeah, why is she hanging around like that? It's predatory. Let's call it what it is, like going after like the youngest group of people in a demographic that you can have access to. Also like every time she says, barely legal, barely legal teens,
Starting point is 00:22:48 it's this kind of like vultureness that like, if the roles were reversed and it was a man only seeking young women, you know, people, I think that's why people are furious about it, right? And I think that's so valid. Yeah, I think the's why people are furious about it, right? And I think that's so valid. Yeah, I think the issue with, especially having lads around this age, is that it's such an impressionable time in their life
Starting point is 00:23:13 where they're forming thoughts, opinions about sex, about women. And especially I think in our generation, there's a big issue of porn addiction, one. Two, just like how we view sex as a whole. And I think going for them at this age is going to affect the trajectory of how they view women for the rest of their life.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Like waiting eight hours, and she's like, there was a quote, and I'm gonna read it out because it's a bit shocking. She said, I loved it, they loved it and it made me rich. She also described how some would arrive looking visibly nervous. They're holding their IDs up, they're shaking. I can understand why they'd be nervous.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They don't know me. They've just queued up for eight hours on end. All they know is I'm videoing it and they don't know what to expect. Like she's getting a bag of like taking people's virginity, people that are not that comfortable with what they're doing. And like, they're too young to know. There's like this whole situation
Starting point is 00:24:14 that seems a bit like wrong. Yeah, I was gonna say, sorry, Christy. No, I feel like just listening to that and then knowing that in one of those cues, there was a father and a son waiting in line. And then also finding out that her dad knows what she does, like Bonnie Blue's dad knows, and he actually hands out flyers. So you're basically enjoying what your daughter is doing. And it's...
Starting point is 00:24:39 Her mum helps clean up the mess. Yeah, goodbye. Is this not just like as well, because it's only fans. Is it not just like glamorize, privilege sex work? Because if someone was doing this from, you know, a poorer community or a place of desperation, wouldn't they be fucking put in jail? Right. Soliciting themselves on the street saying like,
Starting point is 00:24:58 have sex with me for free. Yeah. As long as I can video it. I think that also like that whole thing, like I made loads of money from it. They didn't know what they were doing. Surely that just speaks volume. You know, you're taking these impressionable young kids
Starting point is 00:25:12 who have no idea what they're doing. At the youngest point of their adult lives, where they don't realize that in five years time, the consequences that could come from these choices. You know, like you say, it's like, this is birthing and kind of like the way that they're now gonna see women, see other women and like.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Question, is it even safe? Apparently they have like STI tests every two weeks. Who does? But Bonnie. But still, yeah, you're going into something that's like a canal of unknown. I just think the way that like, she's made so much money from it and all they've got out of it is to sleep with her.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I feel like, although they've had to sign consent forms, at that young age, you don't really know what's going on. Yeah. And it's just, yeah, I think it's vile. Yeah. It's a hard one. And she's obviously been on the Saving Grace podcast this week and I've got a few feelings about that
Starting point is 00:26:08 because people, one, it's a bit problematic giving her a platform anyway, spouting this kind of information, saying about how like basically women need to stop coming up, Karen's need to stop coming after her because the, wait, let me say the quote. She believes that if men's wives aren't pleasuring them, that they will go elsewhere and that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Opinions hurt when they're close to home, which is why I receive a lot of hate from women. And anyway, so she's going on the Saving Grace podcast. She's saying stuff like this, and obviously everyone's in the comment going, can't believe you've put someone like that on your podcast. One, I get you shouldn't give people like that a platform. But two, everyone's coming at Saving Grace
Starting point is 00:26:47 for saying that she's like a bit of a yes man. She doesn't challenge anything that Bonnie Blue is saying. But ultimately, Saving Grace is a content creator. She's not a journalist. Yeah. That's exactly what I was gonna say. If you're looking for someone to probe this kind of person, then you're probably looking in the wrong place. Yeah. Yeah, like that's not Grace's prerogative looking for someone to probe this kind of person, then you're probably looking in the wrong place. You do.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, like that's not Grace's prerogative to make them question what they think that they're saying. And like, you know, she's not Oprah, for fuck's sake. No. Like, she's just a girl from TikTok that's like done really well for herself. Yeah, I don't think that, I think people are now being really unfair,
Starting point is 00:27:24 calling her out for it because also, it's a business for Grace. Having to her, I don't think she realized how, not how successful, but how massive this conversation is gonna be or has been. And she's thought, oh, this is a crazy story. I wanna talk to her, that'll be really good on the podcast. And now it's got all this backlash that I think is unwarranted.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Agree. There's definitely other platforms where I think Bonny Blue could go on to, where people could question her a bit more. But for people to come at Grace so much and be like, why didn't you question her when she said this? You're against feminism and things like that. It's like, no, this is clearly just a very viral woman at the moment who is having her five minutes of fame, fine, but it's not Grace's job to kind of question her character. It's none of her business to be honest. I give you the platform and you speak your truth and I'm just like, wow.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah. And then people could form their own judgements what they're doing in the comments anyway. That's why the comments are there. Agreed, agreed. Yeah. Yeah. That could just as easily be us, couldn't it really?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Exactly. Yeah, literally. We don just as easily be us, couldn't it really? Exactly. Literally. We don't have any authority on the matter. Neither of us have studied feminism. I actually did. You studied journalism. Yeah. Yeah, but that's not the same as like,
Starting point is 00:28:37 a PhD in psychology and stuff like that. That's what I mean. I mean, I did sociology. Sociology. No, that's not it. That's not the same. How is Bonnie I did sociology. Sociology. No, that's not it. That's not the same. How is Bonnie Blue's forehead like that? Pfft.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Pfft. Oh my God. It is so shiny. Apparently she's only 24. What? No, that shocked me as well. I don't know if we should really be talking about that. I'm not going against her.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I'm saying her skin looks incredible. Maybe it's all those sperm facials. Ooh. That's a thing. They inject it. She maybe gets it externally and internally. I mean... Um, but yeah, just interesting. I'd be very interested to hear what you guys think.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Um, our listeners of this whole Bonnie Blue stitch. Did you visit Bonnie? Are you one of her clients? And remember, opinions are not facts so take them and let them go. Like a fart. Is that the saying? No. So we about to play the game! The game let them go. Like a fart. Is that the saying? No. So we about to play the game, the game we haven't played in a while. And that game is Don't Spill the Tea, where you spill the tea and we try not to. So cheers guys!
Starting point is 00:29:37 Cheers girls! Girls night! Okay. I'm single as fuck at the age of 40 and I can't stop thinking about the fact that I dumped my university girlfriend because she had an old lady name. What do you think constitutes old lady names? Esther. Joyce. Joyce!
Starting point is 00:29:59 Joyce's old lady name! Christie. What?! No, it's joking. When I was 10, I had a wee in the bath and then my mum got in after me. Until I did sex ed at school, age 13, I thought I got my mum pregnant
Starting point is 00:30:14 and I thought my little sister was my secret daughter. Now, if I wee in the bath, I'm to the plug hole and pretend I did it by accident, even if we're supposed to be sharing the water. I don't want them to sit in my wee. You ever poo in the bath? As a child definitely. What?
Starting point is 00:30:33 On purpose? Yeah all the time. I mean I couldn't get out because it was going to be cold so I said let me just sit in there and pooing in the bath because it was cold in the air. You never did that. Are you joking me? That's disgusting. Yeah. You never did that. Are you joking me? That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah, but it's cool. You're like three or four times. Exactly, you poo, you come out of it. That's better than instead of coming out, pooing and going back in, I'm really cold. What's the point? But when you're really, really, I'm not talking about like past six.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. Teen. Yeah. Teen. So it's the first time I'm staying over at my boyfriend's house. He lives with his parents. In the morning, in the morning he had to go to work early
Starting point is 00:31:14 and I had to leave a little later. I get up, go for a poo and lo and behold, their toilet has the worst flush ever. I know his mom works from home and it's a small house. You can hear everything. So after two flushes, I know his mom works from home and it's a small house. You can hear everything. So after two flushes, I know I'm in the territory that she's wondering what I'm doing. I try weighing it down with paper, no luck.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm running out of options. One more try, it still doesn't fucking flush. At this point, I remember I have an empty Chris packet in my bag. Yeah, I scoop the poop out. Put. packet in my bag. Yep. I scoop the poop out. Came up like Shamu You sound like Shamu No It's crispy, it's like water
Starting point is 00:32:08 Is that the end of the story? Don't water the story She She scoops the poop out Puts it in the empty crisp packet That's disgusting I fucking hate that Okay
Starting point is 00:32:24 I went on a date with a guy and we were driving around So for all our audio listeners out there I've just been violated For all our audio listeners out there, I've just been violated. It was a step too far, I agree. And for that, I'm so sorry. Thanks so much everyone for listening. If you have any dilemmas, any funny stories, anything you want to submit to us,
Starting point is 00:32:57 to laugh, to react to, to violate each other to, please send it to us at tf4 at junglecreations.com. We can't wait to hear them, see them. And I'll see you next week, Billy. Okay, it's on. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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