Tea at Four - Embracing your self confidence, dealing with hate comments and being bullied with Dani DMC

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

This week Lauren and Christie are joined by an exciting guest - the incredible creator and body positivity queen, Dani DMC. She takes us through her tips for staying true to yourself and how to be confident even in the face of haters. She shares with us how she was bullied through childhood but used this to make her stronger, and the highs and lows of being a plus-size influencer. They discuss growing up in the UK versus the US, and also give advice on a relationship where the boyfriend hasn’t set clear boundaries with his girl best friend. If you have any dilemmas or funny stories please send them in to [e-mail]

People were constantly telling me I was wrong and I was ugly and I was fat and I was this and I just felt like f*** all of you. I feel like I'm able to have such successful male-female relationships because of the boundaries that I have with men. I need more girl best friends like you. Like I have to teach women this because it's a superpower. When you're confident, it's like your love life is better, your career is better, your quality of life is better, your health is better. Like everything is better. You show up in a

different way in life. Hi guys, welcome back to Tea at Four. I'm Christy and I'm Lauren and this is a podcast where we talk all things that normally stay in the group chats. Today we have a very exciting episode of Tea at Four. We are joined by someone we have only watched on our screens for years, genuinely. So she's worked with Four Nine, our company, for numerous years and now we finally get to meet her in the flesh. Here is Dani Dibs. Dani, Dani, Dani, Dani. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you guys for having me.

We're live in the flesh. Finally, it's about time. Yes, it's actually bizarre. Like when you've seen someone, you feel like you know them and then you just walked in the room and I'm a little bit starstruck. Yeah, I'm not starstruck.

You'll learn very quickly. I'm just a regular shmegular girl and it's gonna be very easy and we're gonna feel like friends i love it we're friends already like yeah duh it's exciting you're our first like non-british guest on the show oh i'm the first american guest i think so yeah oh my god i need a badge yeah a picture we frame it on our show yes i love that obsessed worldwide so what brings you to london how come you're in our studio today yes well i love london so much i've been a fan of london since the first time i came when i was a little girl i don't even remember what age i was

but i just feel like big cities make me feel super alive i'm from chicago i've lived in new york a lot of my family lives in new york and i just get a rush when I'm in a big city. And I feel like London gives me all of that. It gives me like big city, cozy, feels like home because I'm used to, you know, growing up in a city. But then it also gives me that like international rush of like, you know, new thrill, adventure, spontaneity, which I love so much. So that always brings me to London. This time particularly, I'm here for holiday. I was in Italy for my family reunion. My family lives in Italy.

And my extended family, not my parents. Nice. And so I was like, let me just hop over to London because it makes me happy. And I knew I could do some work out here with 4ix9ine and Jungle. And yeah, so I just said, you know, I'm in my kind of like effort era of let's just do things that make me happy and make me feel good and london makes me happy it makes me feel good so i'm here for a whole month i love that yeah it makes you happy it does laura does london make us happy it exhausts me i think because it's summer i get it like the london kind of vibe busy the sun's out shining but i like winter too i love winter i'm from chicago

so it gets way colder in chicago than it gets here it's also very similar where it's like gloomy all the time it rains all the time you get like two months of sunlight in chicago if you're lucky oh my god yeah and it makes me feel like nostalgic that weather the um my group chat at jungle always gives me such a hard time because i'm like i hope it's raining and cloudy and they're like danny literally we're gonna remove you from this group chat because you're manifesting this weather that we're sick of no we need more of that romanticizing because like london in the rain i'm just yeah the first week i was here it was like raining and super cold and everyone was saying to me like oh i'm so sorry about the weather i'm like please don't apologize this is my happy place

i love to whip an umbrella out you know it's a little dramatic effect like why not a prop yeah exactly a prop so what what i've always no i was gonna say what the fuck was it like growing up in america in simple terms because i have an absolute fascination with the us never been yet to go you obviously love london yeah but like we're like switched switched at birth yeah what was it like um well that's such a loaded question because one thing I've really learned having so many friends in the UK and Europe like in general is it's such it's so different obviously but the US is so big and like you know that growing up in the US but like hearing from my friends like even my family in Italy how they'll like drive from one from northern Italy to southern

Italy in a day. And it takes like eight, nine hours. You could never do that. Like a drive from the West Coast to the East Coast will take you 48 hours, 40 hours. Yeah, it's insane. That's why people rent like RVs and make it like a whole trip to go across the US. And where you're from makes you so different. Just like kind of in the UK, like if you're from Newcastle versus Liverpool, you have

a different accent and like stuff like that. It's similar. Like everyone has different accents, different tendencies. If you're from London, you're going to have more street smarts and you're going to, you know, watch over your shoulder and know how to move. Whereas if you're from the countryside here, you're going to be, you know, a little bit more to yourself, maybe more shy you know whatever the case may be so the u.s is like that too every place is very different i feel like i'm a very

like um typical chicago girl that grew up in the city i'm a little rough a little rugged um i have good energy i can dress okay but like everywhere is different based on where you're from so it's hard to say like to describe the u.s as a whole just like if i were to ask you like describe the uk as a whole like yeah yeah miserable no bad vibes i think we have our moments but that yeah i think overall because yeah overall bad vibes man i think it's more bad than good didn't he yeah i mean i could say the same about the u.s i feel like the u.s is an absolute mess i feel like everyone sees that too like we're embarrassing like at this point it's like i mean just like our our infrastructure and like you know our politics and i'm not into politics at all but like it's just it's just a mess and it's just a bit embarrassing that at this

ripe time of 2024 we still can't have things together not saying that london or the uk has things all the way together yeah so for real yeah but um for real. Yeah. But I just think that America is just, it's, it's, you know, we're taught in America, like as a kid, like we're the best country. We're the biggest. We have the best army, the best education, the best healthcare. We're the wealthiest. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, it feels like the younger child that didn't get enough attention and

is like me, me, me, me, me. I'm the best. I'm the best. Yeah. And it's exhausting you know and I just feel like when I go to London when I go to Italy I feel like this is like the older more mature sibling that's like we've been doing this for a minute and of course we like we're not perfect but like we're more seasoned and like take a deep breath you know like just relax yeah so what have you been up to what's you've been here i've been doing so much i've been my friends that are from london are

like girl sit down i'm like no like i don't think you understand that's why i feel so excited to be in a city like this because in la you have to drive everywhere i do live in downtown la so you can walk a bit more but um it's not like this where like I'm tubing, training, busing every day. And yeah, I'm just like all over. I'm in Shoreditch. I'm in Spitalfields. I'm in, I yesterday I went to Bistro Village. Yeah. I'm just all over. Like I want to see everything and do everything. And I want to like be immersed in the city and feel like I live here and like experience everything.

I love that. Yeah. I've also love how like, well, you're remembering all the place names. Cause when I see Americans talk about coming to London, they're like, I went to Peckham. Big Ben. And I went to Bicester Village. Well, I've been tested. I have London friends.

You have to remember. So I'm not going to lie. When my friend first showed me Bicester, she said, how would you pronounce this? And I said, Bicester. Halfway there. Yeah, nearly there. I have to ask

you yes you have expressed being obsessed with the nation's favorite love island absolutely have you been watching this year yes and i honestly this is my pitch itv i feel like i feel like i should be on after sun i feel like i could give like the american perspective no seriously like i've i've thought about this a lot charlie let's make a note of i've i've thought about this a lot charlie let's make a note of this um i've thought about this a lot um i've been watching i will like proudly say this and like confidently say this i've been watching love island in the u.s before anyone like i'm telling you i saw the very first season when like that you were seeing parts and yes and like vintage and like there was no drinking limit

and they were getting sauce that was content yes and um everyone was like what are you watching what are you watching like this is so weird and now all i put everyone on it literally i put america on love island that's the thing though if you've watched it from the beginning do you not think it's so overproduced now a little bit yeah for sure but i feel like that's kind of all reality like it's always gonna change a little and now that it's come to the u.s market and like it's in other place australia it's gonna and even though they're they're separate shows like uk is always gonna reign supreme for sure in my opinion um i just feel like yeah it's gonna change a little but, but it still has all the things that I love. Like, I love that they haven't taken out Casa Amor.

Casa Amor is, like, necessary. It's needed. And I just love, like, they continue to add Spice. Maya Jama, can we talk about it? Like, utterly obsessed. Like, if I need to be reincarnated as someone, I choose her. I just imagine, you know how you said about, like, the America looks a little bit dumb sometimes like i love these people on there but

there's moments where there's this one girl and she keeps saying generally instead of genuinely and i just want to get in that or like lucinda when she was like really oh my god it's not looking good yeah my only problem with love island which like i feel like i would have a bigger problem with if this isn't like what we were used to in society is like can we get a little more like versatility and diversity like i will say i feel like uk has always been um more diverse than us the first season of us love island us like plummeted and tanked in america because they had like one mixed race girl and then everyone else was white nothing else but now it's like okay there is some

racial diversity but like can we get some body diversity can we get some people I know it's huge in the U.K. but can we get some people that don't have plastic surgery you know can we just have some like yeah let's mix it up a little bit you know I know it's like it's reality like give us some real stuff so that's like my only my. Like give us some real stuff. So that's like my only complaint with Love Island. I feel that. And there's been a lot of feedback online or a lot of memes about these girls that people say they are topped up with plastic surgery. They don't look their age.

Everyone's like they look so old. Did you guys see there's a viral TikTok going around of a U.S. plastic surgeon. And his nurse, because he's like older and doesn't watch TV, his nurse showed him photos of all the contestants. And he has no idea who they are, doesn't know the show, never heard of the show, whatever. And he has to say their age and what work they have done based on looking at them. Everyone he guessed over 35.

The girl, what's her name? Harriet? He said 42. Wow. wow yeah and he like clocked everything he was like nose job cheek filler lip filler chin filler like um and it was crazy he said everyone looked like oh and they're like 23 25 like but the saddest thing is like the reason these girls look so old or if they have had stuff done is because we're constantly projected this idea. It's not favorable to have those smile lines or wrinkles in the sun or texture on your

skin. Yeah. I'm sure they've talked up with Botox and everything before they've gone in for the purpose. To be. Yes. Are going to tear them apart. Yeah.

Yeah. So I guess it's a double edged sword. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. But it kind of leads nicely into our conversation with you because you are essentially a body positivity creator that's a lot of the content that we've worked with you on in the past yeah and it would just be amazing to talk to you about like what that's like kind of how the how the environment online has changed over the years yeah being in

that role yeah um and all the highs and lows of it yeah there's a lot of highs and lows yeah there's a lot of highs and a lot of lows yeah um but it's worth it to me um it's definitely not for the faint of heart my career and um it's taken a long time to build up I mean I started my career in 2017 as a plus size model in LA I was signed in LA New York and Chicago kind of traveling as a model. And I just kind of realized, um, similarly to what we're talking about is I wasn't fully fulfilled in the modeling industry. I felt like my body was being edited and Photoshopped a lot, which I was not okay with. Like I hated that I have a lot of cellulite and they would like

smooth my skin out. And it's like, this isn't who I really am. And you're not showing people the truth. Like, let's say another girl that looks like me is trying on this pair of denim and she sees that her cellulite shows through or it doesn't fit comfortably or there's no stretch or whatever the case may be. Like now she's not seeing that because you've airbrushed my body. So that kind of led me to like, okay, I want really my biggest superpower is my voice, my voice and my confidence kind of in those together. And like, how can I amplify that? How can I, you know, give myself an audience where I can speak about this and really help women and like help us be our most confident self. So that's when I started YouTube 20, like end of 2017, beginning of 2018. And, um, it changed my life. I mean, it really took off because I feel

like at that time there were fashion bloggers, there were plus size bloggers. People were just starting to kind of make their way into video. And I just felt like there wasn't someone young, like my age at the time I was 23 and as fashionable as me. And that's like no shade to anyone, but I had different fashion at the time because to be a plus size person was to be extremely creative. To be a fashionable plus size person was to be extremely creative because at that time you're wearing peplum, you're wearing floral, you're wearing things that, to me, are not swaggy. I was shopping in the men's section, trying to find the swaggiest thing I could find,

whether it was oversized or whether I had to cut it up or just get really creative with it. And it was a long process to kind of live through that. And now it's like, okay, I can come to you today, this swaggy girl, but it took a long time for these brands to get it together. We are still not where we need to be. And so I feel like using my voice and being able to not only be a voice for other women and say, Hey, we deserve to be in your clothes. Like we need to take up space. And it's not just about the clothes. It's like, we deserve to take up space in the world, you know, and there's certain areas that we can start, but also being a voice

to these women to say, Hey, look at me. You know what I mean? I'm plus size. I'm a big girl. I'm confident. I'm an it girl. I'm cool. I'm nice. You know, I treat everyone with respect. I think I'm the shit, but I don't think anyone is below me. I think I want everyone to feel the way I feel about myself. Like, and I've always felt felt that energy even when i was a kid and bullied really bad i always felt like why are these kids bullying me like do they not know like i'm that girl i love like i used to feel that way i used to be so confused by by kids at school and by society and magazines like i never was that insecure girl and i never really let that i let it get to me in terms of like it made me a more angry and protective person, but I never let it get to me where I was like, damn, they're right.

Like I'm ugly or I'm unlovable or I'm not worthy. And so because I was able to kind of keep, maintain and develop that confidence, it made me feel like it's my unequivocal duty to pass it on. Like I have to teach women this because it's a superpower. When you're confident, it's like your love life is better your career is better your quality of life is better your health is better like everything is better you show up in a different way in life yeah so that's kind of what led me to to the space and doing what I do and I love it so much but there's also a lot of lows yeah I guess so if you were starting in that

mindset of like this is what my message is yeah and you're thinking if I want to be taken seriously as like a plus size creator does all my content have to be in that box for people to like like I don't know have you felt in the past you can't really branch out to like the other stuff as to not be taken seriously for the body positivity stuff yeah not really i feel like for me and this kind of goes into the lows as well is just like in society in the world same online people want to put you in a box and they want you to stay in this box and they don't want you to get out at all and i'm claustrophobic so you put me in a box i I'm a break that motherfucker. Like, I want to get out. I'm always going to be a rebel by nature. Even like we kind of talked about this,

but even for me, the term body positivity, I feel like sometimes can be a bit restricting. I typically say like, I'm a plus size model, a content creator and a confidence activist. I feel like confidence activists aligns more for me because yes, I'm a plus size woman, but I feel like the people I speak to are all different body shapes. And it became, it started for me as plus size women, but then it evolved into just all humans that feel other, whether it's your skin tone or color, whether it's your culture, your religion, your sexual orientation, like anything that the world has said, this is not good, or this is not okay. Or you are not beautiful because of blank. My space is for

you and I I want to make space for you and for us to feel good and to thrive um so yeah I feel like I just went off on a tangent there which I always do but um but yeah I feel like that can be a difficult part of my job is like people want to put you in a box but I'm I'm meant to make break boxes I'm meant to make boxes and I'm gonna do whatever feels good to me what feels right so if making different type of content if you know switching it up feels good I'm gonna do that and naturally I'm a really creative person so I like to come up with different segments and different things to do recently I just added um street style interviews my repertoire. And a lot of people would say, oh, you can't segue. You're used to doing content in the house, doing fashion. And

I'm like, oh, no, I can do whatever I want. Yeah. And I think because I have that purpose and intent in what I do, I'm not someone, of course, brands want to know the numbers and clock all of that. But for me, I have a lot of friends in this industry who are very consumed by numbers and that can really get to them. And I've been able to separate myself from that. Even if I try something new and it only gets 20 K or whatever, I still, I'm going to keep doing it because that's 20,000 people that are in one person,

10 people, a hundred people saw that video and resonated with it. So I'm going to keep going. Cause why not? The next video might get 50 and then a hundred. And you know, I'm very tenacious. I'm not just gonna, I'm not going to keep going because why not the next video might get 50 and then 100 and you know I'm very tenacious I'm not just gonna I'm not gonna conform I'm not gonna just be okay with like the bare minimum and making fashion videos in my house like I'm gonna do different stuff to switch it up I love that yeah yeah I feel we've had that conversation haven't we about like

the pressure of stopping being creative for the sake of like i just feel insecure about myself i i might how this is going to look online the non-perfected version um yeah i think for me it's like not thinking about what you want to do first or what you yourself want to like bring out all that share to the world yeah you're always consciously thinking about okay cool i want to do this but how's it going to be perceived there you go will they accept it oh my gosh or like you post something oh my god i don't hear the comments yeah so i feel like especially with the job that we do sometimes it's like of course we don't speak in our in our videos we just literally start faces yeah um i think when i first started i was super scared to look at the comments yeah because like

if i see a comment that triggers me that's it yeah lauren lovely job i'm out there could be 50 positive there's one negative that will kind of like knock you off yeah so i do feel like it's you need to have that mental strength as well be super confident in yourself but then it's it's hard because the society that we live in and the work that we do there's always somebody judging or like criticizing like there's always feedback yeah so you've got to be open to the feedback but also have that sensitive ear to be like yes i hear it but to me and my own feelings i've got to be yeah to the feedback, but also have that sensitive ear to be like, yes, I hear it. But to me and my own feelings, I've got to be, give myself grace. It's a very difficult space to be in.

I do think I have that mental toughness and confidence because I was bullied so bad as a kid. I was bullied from like second grade to eighth grade, like every day because I was with the same kids. But it was different than what it is now. And I feel like no one should have to have that mental toughness the place that the internet has come to now is a really sad and disturbing place and it's very different than when i first started even like in the plus size space we all were so supportive of one another and really showed up for one another we had like groups like dm groups where we'd be like hey i just posted and everyone would go show love and like now it's so oversaturated you don't know everyone it's very disconnected um and just everyone has something to say about everything yeah and i think i'm very

grateful that i have that ability to turn off what people think of me the only way i was really attacked prior to social media was for my body and told, you know, you're ugly in this. So any comment I see that's like, you're fat, you have cellulite, this, that literally doesn't affect me. Like I don't feel it. I don't, it literally does nothing to me because I learned at a really young age that the word fat or, you know, someone commenting on my body was like kryptonite. It make me melt it would make me stop dead in my tracks it would ruin my day and how dare I let anyone have that much power over me I'm the one in control this is my story we only live our life for ourselves so I can change that I can change how this affects me I can't change what people are going to say I can't

change their thoughts I can't change their judgment or their opinions but I can change how I react to it how did you get to that mentality, though? Because just at the grand age of 27, doing therapy like a couple of years last year, last year, I feel like I was kind of understanding like it's only the power of their words. It's a reflection of them. Like, yeah, if I don't want it to hurt me, it doesn't have to hurt me. But like from being bullied for so long and then getting to that point where you take power of those words

how did you get there i think for me like it's a bit of fight or flight when you're in situations like that any type of traumatic situation whether it's bullying abuse etc you're either going to become a victim which is totally understandable most i think that's the common case is becoming a victim to your abuser to your bully to society whatever the case may be because it's easy to go there if something someone's telling you something over and over and over you're gonna be like okay it's true yeah especially at a young age your mind is a sponge i think for me i had this fight mentality of i just from a really young age there was a lot set up against me and i just felt like

people were constantly telling me i was wrong and i was ugly and I was fat and I was this and I just felt like fuck all of you and like I don't know I just at a young age learned how to take my power back and I feel like that's why I say like I know that this is what I'm supposed to be doing because I almost feel like sometimes it's not even about me it's not about Danny DMC I'm just like the vessel that this message is moving through and like i feel that like really powerfully spiritual yeah could i just ask are you though in at home your siblings yeah one sister she's my best friend older she's older i'm the youngest that's actually quite weird because i'm the oldest okay yeah so i feel like i went to all-girls school and girls can be absolutely evil

so I think the I got bullied by boys though that's a different oh that's a different I'm ready to fight I know

but um I just feel like as the oldest you've got to show like obviously you go through everything so you've got to kind of like

show out like yeah you know what I've been through that and you basically not show that you're internalizing what they're saying so that your younger siblings don't go through that same thing yeah I do feel like with me even though I in one ear out the other yeah I don't show out that you know it's affecting me but internally I

I'm broken down whereas my sister oh she's got a lip for days yeah so it's like there's something about the younger sibling like I don't know what it is we're made from the dirt i don't know i don't know what it is i see what you're going through because you're not sticking up for yourself i'm going to be as rude as it can be oh okay yeah so i'm just trying to think like what is your maybe because you're the younger sister yeah my sister always had it very much together she's an earth shine she's a taurus and i feel like tauruses they're just very grounded she was very independent are you a taurus i love tauruses i feel like Taurus is they're just very grounded she was very independent are you a Taurus I love Tauruses I feel like Tauruses don't need a ton of parenting like they're usually like pretty good kids they follow the rules for the most part very smart for the most part yeah and so basically no Tauruses are my favorite side like you guys are the best but I feel like I didn't see my

sister go through a lot okay and so you know everything was kind of together for her and then my life was just like chaos um it was just kind of one thing after the next and I would do that 10 times over again for my sister to have a perfect life because like I said she's my best friend in the whole world and I feel like we love each other so much because we're so different we appreciate our differences and I wish the world could be more like that like me and my sister are so different we sometimes we value different things like my sister's a social worker and so she is like honestly the best human ever and she you know recycles and composts and like is very much about the environment in the world she tries not to shop she only tries to shop like secondhand if

she's gonna buy clothes I consume a lot of clothes and like sometimes I like expensive things I feel like I'm like a balance I feel like I'm I'm better than a lot of people in LA but um she doesn't try to make me feel bad about that or make me feel like be this way or you know be judgmental and I'm the same with her like I love her for who she is and she loves me for who I am and we accept each other's differences imagine if we were like that in this world Imagine if we were like that in this world. Imagine if we were like that on social media. Like and we could say, oh, you're different than me. You love someone different than me or you've decided to be transgender and that makes you happy. So I feel so happy for you, even though I don't understand this experience or I've never met someone that's gone through this experience or, you know, you feel comfortable

in your fat body and you take great care of your body like someone like me where i'm vegetarian i don't drink i don't smoke i don't drink anything but water i'm very aware of what i put in my body but i'm also 240 pounds and i love being plus size i don't ever want to be skinny like i enjoy my body what if someone could say that and see that and just be like oh i i appreciate that for her that makes her happy you know what i'm saying i don't need to tell her i'll go on a diet because i have no idea what she That makes her happy. You know what I'm saying? I don't need to tell her, oh, go on a diet because I have no idea what she does with her body. A hundred percent.

You know what I mean? You're so right in like embodying that as well. It's like not just not saying it out loud if you're thinking it. It's like truly thinking that doesn't affect me. So why would I have these very hateful comments about something that doesn't? Like what is it doing to you?

And a lot of times these people that have so many judgments, I always say it's the interpersonal work they need to do. That's showing up. You know, they have some insecurity or they feel some type of way. So they're projecting it onto you. Yeah. And it's hard as a content creator. I have a lot of empathy for my coworkers, as I call them, because not everyone has my story. A lot of girls in the plus size industry became plus size later on in life.

So they were smaller as kids. So they're adapting to having a bigger body, one. Everything that comes with that, all the insecurities internally that come with that. And then the external of people projecting and saying all these hurtful and hateful things. And not everyone can handle that. I know that I'm the exception to the rule. Again, circling back to why I do this. But it's like, it hurts people.

And, you know, I have friends call me. And, you know but it's like it hurts people and you know I have friends call me and you know there's a it's it's hard to experience that type of judgment and even me personally we've talked about this but I've been through some things online where I was attacked and you know my character was questioned and that was really hard for me because it's one thing to come after my body but to attack my character was so hurtful because I again my confidence I know who I am I know that I'm this really beautiful person I'm so kind I'm so compassionate I care so much about the world and every individual every human living in this world I don't care what you look like or what you've been

through like I will love and accept you as you are and for anyone to think that I would want anything bad to be done in this world or any harm to be caused to any human kills me that was a different type of pain that I experienced because I've never my character's never been attacked it's always my body that's been attacked so that was that was a new obstacle that I had to face and kind of endure yeah and I guess how in that scenario I've never seen the behind the scenes of like when a content creator gets questioned for their character like that you can obviously choose to respond to it publicly but in that moment between processing what's going on that's so out of your control

yeah and then deciding what to put out of there what is going through your mind yeah it's so crazy so I did what you should never do. I responded quite quickly. Um, and I responded in a way that if I were talking to my bullies at school, so when I was a kid and I got bullied, I never stood up for myself. And so when I got attacked online, I felt fuck this. Like I'm this strong woman. Now they don't know who they're coming at. People were telling me to kill myself, all of these wild things. So I posted a very aggressive video you know i'm from chicago um and uh you know the streets came through me a little bit um i definitely regret that i feel like if there's one thing i could do would be to kind of pause i'm a very impatient person and i want people to understand

me so for me i'm like fuck this internet shit let me come to you real you know what I mean I just woke up turn my camera on not a great idea um because I was definitely very defensive and I wasn't in like an open space to hear anything I more so was like you don't know who the fuck I am like um and I definitely regret that but I feel like after taking some time to reflect you know I was able to come about it a little bit better I feel like I wish I would have just it's hard a part of me I'm never one to stay silent like I can't stay silent because that's just not who I am everyone tells you when something is highlighted on the internet stay stay quiet stay silent but it's like that's not me that's not who I am and it was hard it was a really really dark time it was yeah it was a tough one yeah do you think the ease as well of like going from long form content on youtube to short form on tiktok where it's so

easy to literally wake up that morning yeah film a video yeah post it yeah takes us away from that like thinking time yeah truly being able to consider what you're putting out online it does i feel like it's good and bad i feel like the beauty of it well i feel like the bad part of it is that where like you're not taking time to really fully think things out but that's also beautiful because you're seeing people in their natural state like on youtube i was never filming with no makeup on on tiktok instagram i film with no makeup on all the time literally yeah and um so i feel like you're seeing more real raw it's not so like um thought out and that can be harmful but it can also be really beautiful if you're just like oh this is me off the top of the dome like let me tell you my thoughts today or you know it's much more relatable I feel like um but yeah but I feel

like through that situation I everything I've been through in life has made me a better person so once I got through the really dark point then seeing okay this is going to make me a better person I'm going to become stronger I'm going to be able to realign my brand and figure out I made mistakes for sure. Like I'm always an accountable person. So like where could I have gone different? And now which direction can I go? And I feel like it's mentally, you know, it was really, really hard for work for a long time. But then mentally it opened up so many doors and I just refound my passion for what I do. And it became less about, you know, you can get caught up in the money and the brand deals and all that. It became, I've disconnected from that fully now for the, you know, for the last year, I'm just

like, whatever makes me happy, whatever I want to film, whatever content I want to create, I'm doing it. Who cares about the money I'm going to make? I'll figure it out. You know? And I feel like it makes it better because people aren't doing that anymore. People are like, how much is this brand going to pay me? Okay. I'll whip a video together. Like that's all it's really become about. And I feel like everyone wants to be a content creator or an influencer, but like, what are you really influencing people to do? What is your point here? Because for me, it's become such a dark place. I have to be a light. I have to show people that there's beauty and positivity. We have all of these horrible things going on in the world and people are dying and people are going through so much and there's so much grief and trauma and every other way I need to add some positivity and light

to the world and if this is my way to do it then I'm going to do it full force definitely yeah oh my god and you you live in LA as well which I feel like is that tenfold. Yeah. Like that idea of like you want to be in your audience's good books, but then you've got all these people around you silently judging you. Or not even silently judging you. No, for sure. Audibly judging you. When I was going through kind of that tough time, I remember going in restaurants and people were like whispering about me.

It was awful. Jesus. It was mortifying. Yeah but if that was me like yes what's the problem i'd actually go sit down with the black what's going on what's good but i felt it felt so different because like i almost felt silenced again like when i was a kid like i i felt like i didn't want to turn up because i understood where people were coming from if they didn't know the full story if they read lies that were being told about me or if they didn't you know I I understood where I went wrong as well so it was hard I just I felt like I had to be silent and kind of just live through it but it was it was tough and LA can be a really tough place I feel

like you need to know who you are before you go to LA and if I'm if I'm honest I want to move to London I I feel like I've thought for a while now do I want to go back to. I feel like I've thought for a while now, do I want to go back to Chicago? No, you know, I've outgrown Chicago. Chicago's type of city. Once you make it out, you kind of want to stay out type. And I lived in New York and I feel like London is everything that I thought New York was going to be. New York's a little too suffocating for me. It's a little too tight. You can't really breathe. People are really unhappy in new york like mental health when i lived there like you go to work like wake up go to work come home don't talk to people like it's very even people here like are nice they'll look at you me and a girl on the tube today sitting

across from each other we both had the uh onisukas on and i kind of like pointed my foot at her and we like smiled for that would never happen in new york that doesn't happen in london that was a good day yeah i feel like people i feel like people probably know they're like she's american um but um no i feel like people are kind here like i i just it's different when you're from chicago and new york because people are mean like actually mean so i feel like london it feels nicer because you're giving me that look but I'm telling you like you know what I just I think maybe it's just the UK I was in Barbados oh yeah literally every single day you come out good morning well yeah that's different yeah and coming back here that's not fair you can't compare it coming back I started doing that it's also I'm coming I need to move to the

Caribbean because the way they show love to me in the Caribbean I'm like I'm Mona Lisa so I've come up my house and I'm trying to I've kind of adapted that like hello hi yeah so I'm saying hi to people hi smiling people like yeah can can you come I'll tell you when I first moved to LA people would stop me and say oh you're so beautiful and I remember the first woman I was I was near Rodeo Drive I was walking in my zone this lady saw me and she was like oh you're so beautiful and I was like what really yeah you know you don't talk to people on the street from Chicago like you don't why like because you just don't you mind your business you get where you need to go like I don't know it's just not like that it's the same in New York like that's what I'm saying mental health in New York summertime in Chicago is better summertime shy people are nicer more vibe and then maybe around christmas holidays bring out like you know

but um on christmas day do you do the merry christmas on it like my thing is british people we don't talk to each other the whole year round and then on christmas morning it's the merry christmas well to be fair i don't see people on christmas because i'm in the house in my jammies opening gifts yes but i oh i'm like santa claus i'm mrs claus so like i literally after thanksgiving which like f thanksgiving because i'm a londoner now um yeah yeah also what even is thanksgiving um but after the end of november i'm like happy holidays and i always try to say not merry christmas but i want to be inclusive to anyone that sells like celebrates

hanukkah or kwanzaa or whatever so i always say happy holidays happy holidays to everyone they're like girl calm down yeah if you do that in london i don't know if i don't care though that just goes back into i don't care if i want to spread some it might make someone feel good you never know like you know what i mean like why not i was telling my friends i'm not gonna lie if you don't care if I want to spread some, it might make someone feel good. You never know. Like, you know what I mean? So like, why not? I was telling my friends, I'm not gonna lie. If you don't say happy birth, not happy birthday. If you don't say, if you don't smile at somebody today,

your bad vibes, they're like, Christy, we need to talk to them. Does it mean no? Because smile. You never know what people are going through, smile. It's so true. Actually that day I was just like. And it's like, I feel like, I love that.

You have such a great smile. I feel like Chicago and New York, especially like New York, it's like everyone, if just one person was like, you know what, I'm going to be kind today and just smile. Literally, you don't even have to say anything.

Just like smile. It could affect someone's day. You never know. And if everyone collectively started doing that, just like if we all said, okay, on social media, we're going to be nicer.

We're going to be kinder. Let's, I'm, like for me, I have a couple friends I'll see sometimes post comments on, I don't know if you guys know, like the shade room. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I'll see them say something like judgmental and I'll text them or call and they're not content creators. So, you know, so they consume content in a different way. I'll be like, what's wrong

with you? Like, don't add that to, to this environment. Don't add that to social media. Don't say that about a woman or whatever, you know it'll be girls it'll be women that i know and it's like we have to hold our friends accountable too because we all need to make spaces feel safer yeah yeah i really love the london market and i feel like a lot could be done here because i feel like plus size is just acceptable here even like if you look at the modeling industry boo Boohoo, ASOS, et cetera, your plus size model is much smaller than our biggest plus size model. And there's still a lot of issues. I'm wearing mostly all jaded London today and this is their biggest size. And it just fits me. This is so tight on my arms. I can't hug anyone,

but it's fly. So I'm going to wear it. But like we need to do better. And so I feel like if I'm out here, I can be the rep for doing better. I love that. So yeah. Yeah london that's iconic i know i'm definitely gonna start spending more time so my plan is now and charlie i haven't even told you this but you're gonna be so happy my plan is now for yeah exclusive content my plan is for now to do um to come back maybe september october for like another month month and a half and then next year because well i shouldn't be putting all my uh information out for the for the uh UK government but you know you can only stay for three months at a time so I'm thinking next year I'll come beginning of the year maybe

come for three months you know come on and off a little bit you know do it like kind of slow get settled because I still have some things going on in LA working on a clothing brand that's also exclusive wow um so yeah so you know i'll probably be back and forth for a bit but i definitely want to spend more time here and i feel like i could do really big things out here i love that yeah i actually just had one more question to ask and this is actually just on a personal level of course babe um anything there we go the accent i'm like a you could serve a confidence activist and I've brought up a couple times and just generally neglecting to feel or embody confidence in myself and my body and I think

ironically in two days I'm going on holiday where which is a time and I know you've done a lot of videos on how to feel confident in a bikini yes and truly I'm wondering what tips would you give to feel that confidence in both real life and online? Yeah, I feel like it all starts in real life because online, it's almost like a figment of our imagination. You know, it's this this exterior thing that's like, what even is that? I kind of had this moment when I was going through that hard time on social media where my friend told me to leave my phone at home. We went on a drive in LA to the mountains. We took our tops off, sat, sat on the mountain. We just weren't nudists. Okay. We took our tops off, sat in the sun.

And we screamed as loud as we could in these huge canyons in LA. And it was like, wait, nothing on my phone is real. I don't have my phone. So like nothing's, that's not real what's going on. Cause like I'm just here right now in this peaceful moment to me that's like an analogy of a place that i want to live mentally and internally so my number one tip is to be alone spend alone time with yourself just you like that's why i'm having so much fun on this london trip like of course i'm meeting up with people every here and there but mostly i'm by myself 100 of the time time. Yesterday I took myself to Bistro Village, had a day, took myself out to a meal, went shopping, did whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, however I wanted.

That's why I love dating myself, spending time with myself. Like it's so important. And I feel like you get more comfortable with yourself, even not just externally, but internally. Then you start to build that trust with yourself, that confidence with yourself. Like, okay, I'm in control here. I know who I am. I love myself for my personality and how i am now let's work on the external and then being the nudist that i am i always say getting naked spending time naked in front of the mirror by yourself it makes you feel less awkward more comfortable with your i mean this is your body

you have this body the rest of your life what are you gonna do cover it up and never look at your body or like never spend time lotioning your body or sometimes you get that mindset where it's just like every year i go past i'm like oh i'll wait till next summer to feel better about myself no i will say this summer yeah this summer yes i feel like today i don't think i could go publicly topless on top of promos hill okay yeah no i'm not okay that's not what I'm saying. No one, no one was there. It was just me and my friend in the middle of like nowhere in LA. Okay. No one was there. However, I've gone to many topless beaches cause in Europe it's very common. So like in Mallorca, I've gone in, um, Ibiza in, um, in, uh, Italy. Love it. Don't, don't go to the beaches. I go to now that I said this.

Um, no, but that's not what I'm saying. The goal is I'm not saying the goal is to be comfortable being naked in public. That's not everyone's cup of tea, right? My sister's extremely confident. She's modest. She's never going to go topless at a beach with me. Right. That I'm just a different level of like, I just being naked. Um, but I think that getting to a point where you're naked with yourself is very important. And then you start to get to the effort mentality of like, I can put on a thong string bikini at the beach because this is for me i'm not putting on a show for anyone else and if someone has a problem with me like i said people are going to have opinions they're going to have problems with your body they're going to have judgments on your body it's how you react so it's like you just have to build this impenetrable bubble around yourself and realize people are going to

try and poke and prod but if you build up, no one can get in there. And it's like you're on holiday for you. You better please fucking wear the bikini. Express yourself. Allow your body to be free. Do not cover your body up. And take it one day at a time. If wearing a more full coverage bathing suit makes you feel better of wearing a one-piece, do that first.

And then slowly challenge yourself. But don't stay comfortable because that's expected of us. And that's so boring. And we have one life. You have one life. You you're 27 you're never going to be this young again you're never going to be in this moment again you're never going to be on this exact holiday you're going on again right effort yeah go for it i love that yeah and all you that are going on holiday this this uk summer yes go for it go for it express yourself and don't be worried about anybody else yeah and message me if not.

Or follow me. You message me on WhatsApp and I'll give you. Please. I'll give you a talk or two. Microdosing. Yeah. Just take one sip of it by the day. Literally. Yeah.

So we've been sent some dilemmas from our audience. And I would love to like share it with you guys to get our reactions. Let's do it. Should we get into it? Yes. Let's get into it. share it with you guys to get our reactions let's do it should we get into yes let's get into it lauren do you want to start sorry love her so i want to share something with you so lauren let's go lauren it's a longing okay right for context i've been with my boyfriend james for about a year now and the girl best friend poppy has grew up with james since primary so they've always been close i met james through poppy and i love him dearly because he's always been so kind and friendly towards others especially

me my laptop's just run out of battery i always knew them two were close growing up and i don't want to be in the way of that but lately she's been overstepping boundaries such as long overdue gaming calls which makes him unable to respond to me just to clarify Poppy has a boyfriend called Miles who she also grew up along with James and they have been dating for over two years but yesterday she took it too far and overstepped the boundary because yesterday was father's day and she decided to message my boyfriend happy father's day daddy i wasn't aware of the fact that she sent him this and was told by my boyfriend that she sent this i know she meant no harm but calling your best

friend's boyfriend daddy seems alarming am i wrong i didn't know how to approach james that i am very uncomfortable with this and quite honestly i am both jealous and weirded out by their behavior do I have the right to confront her about it are my feelings valid am I in the wrong for feeling uncomfortable about it I asked my family members and close friends about this and they agreed with my statement but I don't know if I'm being biased or not yes yes Christy yes Christy i'm like i'm in school um okay i feel like me personally was that lol at the end was it no how was it written happy father's day comma daddy i like how you say daddy oh i feel like that makes it sound naughtier oh i hate it daddy daddy like daddy no that would be funnier girl she said happy father's day dad yeah but is she expected in much of she expected she's not

gonna be crazy no i feel like okay first off to this um girl i feel like you should never question like how you feel and stuff so like at the end when she's like, do I have a right to feel this way? You always have a right to feel a certain way. I think the fact that you're thinking like that is good. You know, take a second, think, reflect instead of just acting because I've done that in the past. But I feel like as a woman that's had many male friends my entire life, I mostly grew up with guys.

I am a firm believer in boundaries. I feel like I'm able to have such successful male female relationships because of the boundaries that I have with men and I feel like it seems like there's a little lack of boundaries between both of them I feel like if she feels comfortable saying that then he also is not setting boundaries and I think that needs to be a conversation between them and I definitely think she should voice herself like hey you guys I love you both so much this made me uncomfortable this is why going forward I feel like you know we should all have some boundaries that make us all feel comfortable 100% yes Christy I love it um he showed her right she

didn't just see on his phone yeah he told her so I think it's fine I don't think something's hard to worry about but then it's good that she should question it yeah that's true and and like i wonder what his like when he showed it to her like this is weird or like what did he say or like haha look at what there you go whatever her name was sent me yeah i feel like that's important too because why does she feel comfortable you know sending this or joking in that way um yeah i feel like there just needs to be more conversation 100 yeah the scariest thing in the world is the unknown and i feel like there just needs to be more conversation 100 yeah the scariest thing in the world is the unknown and i feel like you could just snap all this up by just asking yep exactly and again this all goes back to confidence because if you have confidence in who you are

as a person as a woman it makes you feel comfortable more comfortable to just bring things up and say hey this made me uncomfortable let's talk about it instead of overthinking and being like do i have a right to feel uncomfortable is this wrong you know when you're just confident you're able to say i feel like that's what helps me too in so many of my relationships is like if i have a problem with someone i tell you what it is right away so we can fix it you know so we can solve the problem instead of just like ruminating on something yeah wait so you've got a lot of close boyfriends yeah have you been the best girlfriend in that dynamic before like whether the girlfriend's been a little bit sus of how close you are with yeah but i so okay i have many times um i feel like as a woman for me personally

it's my responsibility to like show and explain to the to the woman our relationship so perfect example is um my best guy friend from high school, his name's O'Shea. He literally just came out here last weekend to visit me in London. We like grew up together. We have a really close relationship. When I used to live in New York, we'd like sleep in the bed together, but we're literally like brother and sister. Like there's never even been an ounce of anything. Like, and we both know that. I literally said to him when he was out here the other weekend, like, thank you so much for giving me this friendship because I feel like we're the exception to the rule people always say you can't have guy friends like it's impossible

but I think when you have boundaries you can and if he were to let's say he were to start dating someone right now I would I would take the initiative because I'm sure he would tell her about me right I would take the initiative to reach out to her to get to know her personally so that we could be friends as well and to ensure her make her feel safe and secure like I feel like it's not only the boyfriend's responsibility but also the female friend's responsibility to make you feel safe and secure and like know that hey I promise you you ain't gotta worry about me you know what I'm saying this is literally like if we were born from the same mom like it's not like that at all and if you ever have any questions or you know anything here's my number you can always hit me up and um

another perfect example is when i was in college i had a really really good friend that was going to the army he was going to iraq and um he had a girlfriend and i had never met her but him and i were really close and i told him i was like introduce me to her so that i can check on her while you're gone make sure she's okay you know that's that's like intense going you know away he was going to be driving military trucks and so at first she was a little like hesitant of me. We ended up hitting it off, became like best friends. When he came back, they had a baby.

I'm the godmother. Like, yeah, because I just feel like a lot of if there is some weird stuff going on, you're not able to show up in that capacity to a girlfriend and be like, hey, we're just friends. But because it's genuine and we are strictly friends it's easy for me to be like hey girl let's go get lunch like you'll see why he loves me because i'm chill and i'm fun and i'm a good time and i'm able to help him with your relationship because me and o'Shea like he talks to me about the male perspective i talk to him about the female perspective like it's nice to have that but there needs to be boundaries set i need more girl best friends like you love it love it right do you want to do

this one yeah let's go that was a great response for real for real play your part girls play your part period all right so the next one we got sent in was i might ask her for being upset my long-term boyfriend doesn't want to plan to be buried next to me so my boyfriend and i have been together for going on five years he has made it clear he's not proposing anytime soon but we have talked about getting married so we both are in for it for the long haul i was thinking about getting old and dying last night so i asked him if we're getting buried together he said no i remembered he previously talked about being cremated so i said oh yeah should we plan for uh for an urn oh my god should we plan for an urn with room for us both he said no and that he wishes to be buried next to his father who passed

in his childhood which not trying to be an arsehole but wanted to be buried next to him is news to me i'm not about to be insensitive to him about his burial wishes though so should i plan should so should i plan to be next to him next to his dad it doesn't really seem like he cares where i end up forts sorry wow this is what those those late night cremation chats whoa what wow there's so many so many things going on first off i don't think you can confidently say we're in it for the long haul after you just said that he doesn't plan to propose anytime soon I think as women we go about that the wrong way we're like oh if we're together for a long time he's in it for the long haul that's the whole point of marriage

is like and I feel like you know I'm someone too I'm like do I want to get married do I not I kind of go back and forth but I do think there's a beauty in the commitment of marriage of like okay this is a next level of commitment where I'm saying i want to spend the rest of my life with you yeah you can't fully say that until you've done you've proposed or made that act or done some type of ceremony that you know doesn't have to be government documented but you know something to kind of solidify that so you lost me there also um i'm definitely not an overthinker i can tell this girl's very much so an overthinker. Um, but I am a future planner and I'm actually not super mad at her. I took this college course called, I had to like finish, I had to do an elective or something to like graduate.

So I just took whatever. And it was called like something death and dying. And it was all about like how you want to die and how, like, um, writing your will and like all of this stuff, like power of attorney. And it was fascinating because it's all things we don't think about when we're young but like eventually you have to decide on and um you never know when you're gonna die so like i don't give her shade for thinking about these things i would say it does seem like her partner is maybe not the most forward planner

and she is also um i have grandparents that are buried separately i don't think you know because they're buried with their families or whatever the case may be i don't think that's a huge deal but that's just me personally yeah oh my god i just can't even think about death i can't do it me personally she shouldn't be upset but she should give him the grace that you know maybe he's not there thinking about that right now yeah maybe closer to the time when we're actually married but maybe the bigger conversation too is like are we actually in this for the long haul yeah there you go yeah like instead of are we gonna die together are we gonna live together there we go how about the present days about the present day yeah

we are not dust yeah yeah romeo tweets didn't she like not die she like didn't die then he killed himself because she died and then she came back to life and then she killed herself because he died like too much a lot of death yeah i think just focus on the now yeah yeah yeah that's my she said no death over here yeah we're living forever yeah we're immortal please put me in the cloud all right boom so this is the part of the show where you spill the tea and we try not to danny are you ready i hope so yeah are you ready my spit's coming your way so i'm just kidding your outfit's too nice i know i'm excited i think this is gonna be good yeah we get sipping yeah let's go let's When I was little, I once found these weird squishy earrings

in one of my mum's drawers. I would continuously ask her if I could wear them until the embarrassing age of 13 when I finally learnt what condoms were. No? Okay. My friends and I were at a bar and a cover band was playing.

The lead singer was being obnoxious. He was hitting on all the women in the audience in a very lewd manner and he was being far too pretentious for being in a cover band. It was making everyone uncomfortable and annoyed. At one point during the show, he says, I would like someone special to take the microphone and say a few words. And he then lowered the microphone stand so that it was right where his crotch was i don't know how he had originally planned this segment to pan out but before he could say anything i yelled in a high-pitched voice i'm so tiny that is the quick wit i need

in my life that was a good one that hit hit my ankle. Not your ankle. Sorry, babe. You're polite. Thank you. So, I almost had a threesome with a couple I knew, but I got too scared, so I went to their toilet and climbed out of the window and ran home. Worst thing is that I worked with one of them,

so I had to face them monday after um tried to pick a girl up and lay her down on a bed failed miserably it was dark we were slightly drunk slammed her head onto the bedside table and knocked her out 15 years later she still sends an occasional selfie wearing a helmet what that's crazy permanently or that has to be a joke like yeah i was gonna say right oh my god always wear a helmet oh sorry sorry 15 years later okay um right about 10 years ago i was at a concert with friends having the time of my life about halfway through i noticed something had been dripping onto my top i must have been sitting under a leak this

whole time i then spent ages trying to figure top. I must have been sitting under a leak this whole time. I then spent ages trying to figure out where it could have been coming from before realising that both of the gel chicken fillets I'd chucked into my bra earlier had popped and were soaking a sticky liquid into circles on my breasts. Hmm? Okay, okay. I thought it was going to be lactation. I really fancied this new girl at work.

She wears band t-shirts and is clearly into rock and metal. So I lied and I said I was also into the same type of music. She asked me who my favourite band was. I said Linktin Park. She laughed at me for a solid ten minutes. Oh, it's Linkin Park, innit? Not Linktin Park. I said Linkin as in the social media platform yes that's silly that's silly so i bought hinge plus to try it out for a week i started liking

absolutely everything and anything it got to the point where i wasn't even looking at what i was liking a week later i had a telling off from my mum about why incest is wrong because i'd liked my cousin and my sister that's fucking vile that is if it's not your standards you can't be doing that yes also let's have higher standards because then these crazy looking men think then they can treat you bad because you made them feel like a big man. Didn't you say you found your cousin on Hinge on time? That's my uncle.

Your uncle? What's your age range? Yeah. This is the first year I've started here. I think my age range was like 31 to like 45 plus. How old are you? 29. Oh my god.

Crazy. I ate something in my girlfriend's ass because I thought she'd put it there on purpose for me to find. She had not. First off, I don't think I had enough water in my mouth because I would have fully spit. So what was in her ass don't know what do you mean there for me to find it maybe she thought it was like a i don't know if i'm like a part of a small percent but like don't lick my butthole.

No. Ballads. Yeah, like don't lick my butthole. Also, don't try to find things in there. Don't put things in there. Like what? That's not for you. Well.

Mad. Do you have Evian in America? You have Evian in America? Of course. I've never been. At work, I forgot I had a radio mic on. I went to the loo, had a wee, said to the toilet, thirsty thing, aren't you?

Washed and dried my hands, walked back into the conference room to shocked and amused faces. I pretended I knew it was on, but it still haunts me to this day. Sad. Sad. is i pretended i knew it was on but it still haunts me to this day sad sad never spoke to the toilet it's the one streak of water you have going down your neck thanks for playing with us of course how we go to the podcast i know thank you for having me this was so fun i want to come back again oh no you're coming back again keep my seat warm 100 when you're a full-blown londoner yes you're gonna come back in a union jack hat no no lauren she is a londoner tell her fruit and fruit yeah sorry sorry there give me my credit babes and for the people that

might not know who you are where can we find you online i am danny dmc you can find me at at danny dmc d-a-n-i-d-m-c on instagram and then um tiktok is at it's danny dmc its and uh youtube is just danny dmc you can follow me on snapchat and facebook and all the good places you can find me pretty much everywhere yeah and on tf4 yeah exactly and maybe on pretty much everywhere. Yeah. And on Tietful. Yeah. Because she'll be back. I will be good.

And maybe on a big screen one day too. Come on. Love Island. Yes. Hope you heard. After sun, call me. Love it.

Thank you, Jenny. Thank you guys so much. Love it. See you next week. See you next week. Bye, guys.