Tea at Four - Ep 15: The Truth About The Traitors: With Alex Gray

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

Hi, and welcome to Tea at Four! A podcast series by Four Nine, where Lauren and Christie talk about all things that should have stayed in the group chat- your icks, picks and hot takes. In this weeks episode we have our very first guest, Alex Gray from the hit TV show 'The Traitors'. We're discussing the truth behind lying, what it was really like to be apart of the show and we put Alex's skills to the test in a game of 2 truths and a lie.

We were so sleep deprived and stressed and anxious and paranoid. It's quite a dangerous state to be in and it can really mess with your perception of reality. So I was getting a lot of abuse on Twitter of people telling me I was so dumb and you cannot dictate how you're going to be presented, how you're going to be perceived. You only saw an hour of The Traitors for example but that was out of a 16 hour day. It did get toxic towards the end, definitely. Hi, welcome back to T4.'m lauren i'm christy and today there is a traitor among us or is she a faithful faithful through and through we're joined by the wonderful alex gray

she's in here she's in here thanks for having me How are you? I'm good, how are you? Very well. Yeah, we're so excited to have you, our first guest on Tia Fall. Am I? Yeah, number one, number one. Really? So we're shaking in our boots

before you walk in the room. Why me? Because we fall, why not you? I feel privileged. Now I feel like there's a lot of pressure. No, no pressure. Do you feel it? Really?

Yeah. Just a couple of girls chit-chatting, stuff that should have stayed in the group chat amongst food that we have been told you can't eat and well no unfortunately I can't consume any of that but uh we can we can don't worry perfect so just give a bit of intro to you obviously you're on the hugely successful traitors but what is your background what's your everyday job what got you to go on a program like that just being a legend really no um no so i do full-time presenting but acting uh content

creation you know nice kind of whole shazam um for the last what are we 2023 six years now so been at it for quite a while. And I think I got picked, well, yeah, I got selected to do the Traders because I do have a background in poker as well. I've done high level professional poker hosting. Wow. I haven't played at high stakes, high level professional poker,

but I've dabbled in a little bit of it so I can play poker. So I think they wanted that because poker players, you know, it's- There's poker face. There's poker face. Right. Synonymous with lying, manipulation, bluffing.

So that kind of ties in with tracing. So I guess you're good under pressure. I think so, yeah. Or at least I fake it. Fake it till you make it. Fake it till you make it. Yeah, fake it till you make it. That's all you have to do.

Okay. That's so interesting. So did you know when you were doing this presenting acting thing you wanted to go into such a psychologically competitive program like the traitors or were you like any other reality tv i never wanted to do reality really i never wanted to do it yeah i was just i was always terrified of reality if i'm completely honest because you ultimately have no you can't you cannot dictate how you're going to be presented how you can be perceived like you know that you only saw an hour of the traitors for example but that was out of a 16 hour day so you know they can change the storyline and

and perceive you in a way that potentially is not how you want to be perceived so that always terrified me but um here I am now and I did a reality show yeah were you able to watch it back and like do it quite neutrally or were you watching it back and being like that didn't happen that way that what why you know how attached can you be to the process p i can fucking feel the pr pressure coming down on me here from from bbc um i have to be very careful what i say annoyingly but uh yeah of course i mean ultimately if you're only seeing an hour loads of stuff's gonna be missed out i can't say what but um i'll leave that to your imagination okay um but yeah i mean it is what it is and i think ultimately it was good i know i cringed at a lot of things

but i think you do whenever you watch yourself back and you're like oh god did i really say that oh god why did i react like that or whatever yeah um but you know it was good it's yeah what was like preparation you did before going on the show like were you doing some deep diving into like what makes a liar versus someone that's a very good poker face you know i actually did yeah i bought some books did you yeah i did i bought uh books written by a cia detective okay about how to detect lies and how to interrogate people but i'll tell you what i read it and i was like i'm gonna be the best and it all just went out the window so you kind of forget in the moment um but i think ultimately like you just you can read you can kind of get a feel and so like for example the

lissa i just got a feel i just knew but it was kind of i don't know it can kind of get a feel and so like for example the lissa i just got a feel i just knew but it was kind of i don't know it was kind of obvious to me um so that was kind of the preparation i really did you can't you can't really prepare for that show ultimately so if you were to do the show again would you do anything differently would you be like you know maybe i'm gonna be a bit more calm be quiet quiet, I wanna be a bit loud. What would you do differently if you were to go back? Say for a long time if I was to go back and do it again as if I hadn't done it already. Already, yeah.

So I have a fresh slate. Yeah. I would try and not be as vocal as I was. Cause I let slip my, cause my initial game plan was to go in and be very unsuspecting. As if I was a bit of a bimbo, didn't really know what was going on,

kind of was very unthreatening to the traitors. But I kind of, when you're in it, you kind of can't help but voice, I'm quite opinionated I think. I'm quite loud person with my voice. I'm not really a shrinking violet. So I couldn't help myself at times. And then they started, I remember there was a scene,

Alyssa and Wilf and Amanda were in the turret and they clocked on to, actually this girl's not just a blonde bimbo, like she's a bit more perceptive than she's giving on. So I would try and hide that a bit more. And I would now having seen it on TV and now having done it already, I think I would have accepted being the traitor.

Really? I think I would have done. I don't regret not accepting it the first time around because that felt right. And that was my gut decision at the time but now in hindsight yeah you know what actually I think I could have played it well and I didn't you don't have to be backstabbing and I guess malicious whatever you can I could have had quite an easy ride I think because I got recruited but I didn't think I didn't know that at the time, you know, it's very easy to look back and say,

could have done this, should have done that. Could you have anticipated before that you were gonna be such a like core part of the storyline, the whole love triangle scenario? No, I watched the first episode, first couple episodes, I'm like, how did this even become a thing? There was nothing going on. This whole Matt declaring his love for me and in his

one-on-one interviews i didn't know that was happening mad well we really nothing you had no idea no i mean obviously he dropped a few comments like oh you're prissy or whatever but i thought he was just being flirty and friendly not i was completely oblivious to the fact that he saw me as his future wife yeah in the green room oh my god i can't breathe he caught the vibe he was like yeah that's the one for me you know yeah i mean confidence is key we love confidence on a show that's about like a psychological competition i didn't expect love no i didn't that was not my vibe going in let's be honest i was there to you know try and suss out who the traitors were yeah not have a

little love triangle no and what i mean obviously things did pan out that way but if you were to go in again do you reckon you would have still gone in with your boyfriend tom uh yeah fuck it why not sorry i don't know if i'm allowed to swear um but i wouldn't i would have gone in and said i have a boyfriend but he's on the outside right yeah just to prevent that happening i didn't think that through in all honesty i actually didn't i know that sounds kind of dumb but i actually didn't even consider that would have even happened because because it's not love island it's it's a game for a chat about detecting liars yeah so yeah oh my god yeah so on tv it showed that obviously you

you had no like communication at all were there moments where you were just able to go i can't breathe no literally never i think we had one moment where we whispered to each other about I think there was a moment we passed outside the toilets and we were like I think it's this person and then we just got off our separate ways that red breakfast episode 4 where it all exploded that was the first chance in that morning where we actually got to sit down and chat and be like, okay, I actually think it's Ivan. And I think it's Alyssa. And, you know, so, yeah.

That's so exciting. Obviously going on a program like that would invite, it got so much engagement, so much success. It got a lot of opinions online. Obviously you do have that online presence as well. How much were you looking at that whilst the show was coming out? A lot. Yeah, I'm really, I'm a very nosy person by nature and i'm very nosy about what people have

to say about me like if i could have a superpower one of them would be mind reading and i know that would be hell for a lot of people but i'd love it i just i don't know i'd love i love knowing what people really think oh my god so in like in your interviewing are you not scared that the other person's just thinking like oh but you could turn it on you could turn it on and off yeah i don't need an off button yeah crazy um but no i i was reading it a lot and then it got to the point where i ended up turning down the role of traitor and tom actually said to me he's like just don't go on twitter he's like just don't do it and at that point i just stopped reading because yeah because i to be fair i did dance with regret at that time uh because because of the show's portrayal of the show i i'm probably not allowed

to say this but it did look a lot nicer on the show than it was in real life it was a lot nastier in real life yeah so and at that and you know we were so sleep deprived and stressed and and and anxious and paranoid that to turn down the Royal Trade at the time was the right thing to do. But like I said, what you're seeing on TV is not the reality. So when you see that storyline portrayed on your screen, you think, why the fuck did she turn that one idiot?

So I was getting a lot of abuse on Twitter of people telling me I was so dumb and blah, blah, blah, blah. So, and then because I'm watching it back and that kind of changed my memory of what the reality really was so i then started having really weird mind games in my head about oh i should have taken it and what if i'd have just accepted it so i had to stop reading it because it was making me go to your lally yeah and it's not nice reading i wanted to fight the world i wanted to be like no you don't understand but yeah so i stopped that oh good and it's kind of drifted off now people are yeah

good i don't think anybody really cares who i am anymore we care that's why you're here yeah um so obviously that is one side of things. You said about the like mental turmoil of being on a show like this. I never even thought about that because one, you've got the main game you're playing and then you're being turned upside down on a fucking wheel outside. Yeah.

So things like that, it must be like grueling. Let me tell you that wheel, right? Watching it, you don't think it's going to be that bad. Well, I think I did. I'm the 81 year old woman probably thought it was quite bad as well. She got a little bruise on her shoulder from it. She is such a trooper. I got the worst headache ever had in my life from that. Yeah, to the point I was actually quite concerned about my brain.

I was like, do I have a hemorrhage or something? Yeah, and I think it would, the headache wouldn't have been as bad if I wasn't experiencing all the sleep deprivation and stress and whatever but yeah it did there were moments where i was like i think you've seen a couple scenes where i'm at the round table i'm like holding my forehead yeah because it was really hurting um so yeah i mean i like the physical challenges though apart from that one because it took you it was the one time you could actually just kind of switch off from the mind constant mind games and going over who was there any like obviously on a game show on the show it's very much intense was there any like aftercare in terms of like people you could

talk to because i'm guessing coming out of that show i'll probably be like you're lying you're you're all lying like everyone's lying to me like have you guys watched the truman show yeah it would feel like the truman show so like was there any like aftercare yeah massively I think they did because it's it is a really intense psychological game I mean paranoia within itself is it's quite a dangerous state to be in and it's and it can really mess with your perception of reality but being in an extended period of paranoia for like two three weeks which it was it's you know yeah there was a psychologist and he was very good with us and you know we had people calling us and messaging us checking in

yeah that's good that's good needs that across reality tv at the moment definitely definitely and i think the worst part really it wasn't actually obviously filming it was really bad and then as soon as i left i was just like okay that's done yeah but then watching it back was the hardest part for me i don't i can't speak for everyone else but because of like i said you know the what you're watching on tv is not exactly how my my memory remembered it yeah so dealing with that and then having the public's commentary alongside it was quite hard so it was balancing all of that and making sure to remind yourself that this is just a show. It's edited, you know, that doesn't alter my real experience. And I had to keep kind of reminding myself that.

Yeah. And obviously, like, you've gone in in a relationship. When you come home and all of the filming's done, do you sit there just with each other being like, he's lame, she's lame? No, not even that, but just like, was it completely normal? Do you think it changed your relationship going through something like that no actually i don't think it did it um it was actually really good coming out because we just vented to each other yeah we had each other to just chat because no one else you know say for example will amanda whatever they they didn't have someone who was in there with them so they couldn't just go home and and vent who understood

me and tom we were there together we understood it so we could come out and just talk about it they didn't have someone who was in there with them. So they couldn't just go home and vent who understood. Me and Tom, we were there together. We understood it. So we could come out and just talk about it. And it was quite therapeutic. But then I think, you know, obviously watching it back, that's when it, you know, it was quite tough. Seeing all that play out on TV. And then, like I said, public commentary alongside.

And that's quite hard in a relationship. But a shared experience made it like, you understand where I was coming from there. Yeah, we could support each other, but I think sometimes we got lost in our own. And it was kind of like the blind leading the blind at times about what to do and how to handle it. Yeah.

And obviously you've come out and life after the show. Do you kind of want to go into that realm of like reality TV even more or like do a bit more influencing, content creation? What's kind's kind of what's next I always just say never say never it depends on what opportunities arise um I wouldn't be opposed to any of that stuff I mean influencing stuff and content creation that's kind of happening that was really good but doing another reality show it would really depend on what it was yeah yeah. But like I said, I'm open to anything that comes my way. We actually had a game that we wanted to put to you.

Ooh, okay. We wanted to see how good you are at detecting the lies. Okay. So we've both got two truths, one lie. All right. And we would love to see if you can see who's talking shit. Okay. Would you be up for that?

Yeah, I'm up for it. Okay. All right. Fab. Okay. Who's going first? Oh my God. Do you want to go first?

Okay, you'll have to look me in the eyes. Oh, okay. One thing I can't do is stare. I hate when people stare at me. So I get very uncomfortable. That sounds suspicious to me. I'm so nervous mom help me um do i actually have to stare well i mean i can can i can i look at both you can't look at the

camera we need it's as if you're okay we're you know all right so number one right i'm going i'm going i'm going full detective i can i can sense it. The pressure is getting worse. D.I. Gray is in the building. Oh my gosh. What is my true, true son of life? Two deep breaths. Okay. So.

Hi, Alex. Hi. Hi. You guys all right? Good. Cool. Don't get too nervous. Police are coming.

No, I'm actually getting nervous, guys. I don't like this. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. yeah so when i was younger um i forgot my life oh my god you can't you can't say no guys i'm actually no i'm actually nervous they're both staring at me i'm just like oh just just have a think have a think okay cool sorry i pressurized you too much yeah i can feel the pressure do you remember them all yeah okay cool all right yeah i took this too seriously sorry i'm innocent guys right so when i was younger in school right um we used to there'd be break

time right so we break time people go out and play but i wasn't allowed to go outside i had to stay in class with a teacher for extra lessons why was that just because i like to learn what were you learning everything and anything everything and anything yeah i was like quite a slow learner okay how old are you um yeah one how old are you in year one like six four six four three okay is that allowed are they allowed to stop you having a break time extracurricular activities did you get any breaks at all yeah i did like i got like a little apple and some milk but you didn't have any downtime at the end of the day i guess it wasn't every break time but like most break time okay that what used to happen okay and then the other day or the other statement yeah i was in the other day the other statement is on holiday i was in senegal beautiful country very very beautiful we were

stopped by the police right so they took our drivers um they took our driver's passport and they didn't want to give it back to him until he paid right but luckily enough um nobody understood the language that the policeman spoke and the driver couldn't you know speak kaiyvah okay so um me being me tried to be like yo boss man like give my man back his passport you know police london and um he had a rifle like the police but they have like big big guns right yeah so imagine like i'm a six foot guy and i'm like a five foot four short little girl it's about the attitude yeah but um long story short i got a bit scared and i walked back into the car with everybody else and um the driver they still have his passport.

How do you know till this day? Oh, we're still in contact with the driver. You're still in contact with the driver? Yeah. Where is the driver from? Senegal. But why did they want to take his passport? I don't know. I guess it's just a ploy back then.

But if he's from Senegal, why did he not speak the language? Well, they speak two different languages. Oh, they do? Okay. What are the languages? French and Dakar. Okay. What language is your

driver's um one off i think it was you think yeah so how did you communicate with them um well one of the you can tell i'm really trying to take this seriously it's getting hot in here okay last one I think I know do I I think I know

do you okay but I might be wrong it's gonna be embarrassing now if I guess it's wrong yeah it is fucking embarrassing yeah it is

shit no it's hot you know good luck yeah good luck um during lockdown um i won't ask questions for this i'll just let you talk so during lockdown um i started a side hustle like a side business and it was like removing people's exes out of their photos wow because um my ex he called me a tour guide when we went on holiday and um he called you a tour guide he told me a tour guide did he pay you no to be the tour guide no he didn't wow that's rude and that was on a vlog so so literally i taught myself how to like remove people out of like pictures and videos because

of him okay yeah that sounds pretty plausible how much did you charge how much did he charge no because you were doing that was your side hustle yes oh sorry sorry that's suspicious oh it's on fiverr so it really depends it depends on how many images you guys want removed so if it's like two will be like a five or okay ten will be like 25 on how much did you make do you mind if i ask how much you made in total um i mean at first obviously during lockdown not much to do didn't make that much but i think the most i made was like 350 wow that's good proud of myself yeah wow and how did you advertise it um social media yeah i love the twitter i love it i love a snapchat too so and plus i like to

rant as well so when i'm writing like guys if you guys ever want to remove your ex out of that picture you want to post it come to me because I believe that I actually can imagine that what was the hardest picture you had to remove someone out of um holding hands okay but then the background was so we're holding hands right but the background was like do you know like you're in have you guys been to Dubai no no no I've been to Dubai no Dubai so we'll buy like um so we just finished skydiving yeah and we took a picture by the sign and obviously the sign had a nice little beautiful like sunset so lovely and obviously I was holding his flipping hand so I had to make it seem as if it was your own photo yeah my own photo I had to make it seem as if oh so how yeah so what were you holding instead um just a bag okay yeah just a bag carry a bag no the bag of the skydiving bag give you a little souvenir it's what do you know sorry

okay i think i have my answer yeah so. So what's interesting is, obviously I asked you those questions. She said she wouldn't go into it. I'm really sorry, I couldn't help myself. This like, trade is all over again. I can't help it, you see. When I asked you questions about the first story,

you didn't really give much, you didn't really have much to say. I don't know if that's, I don't know if that was just coincidence, but I feel like your first story about the break time thing is false. That the lie am i wrong yeah the last one was yeah it's the holding hand that was the weird like in front of a sunset easy yeah i was panicking guys i just said i have to run with it before we started filming she

revealed several details that would have made the first two very obvious lies the first one was to do english lessons from being french and the second one spoke french yep okay yeah okay well done sorry i was really annoying christy is going on the season two oh no i'm not they will not see me sign me up bbc good luck okay right stare at her i'm gonna stare at her too what yeah because that's what you guys are doing to me so okay okay okay i'll just let you talk this time okay i say that but watch me not be okay oh my god i'm already fucking looking up the first thing on if you're lying on google it says you're lying no i'm just got bad eyesight when it was my seventh birthday first thing on if you're lying on google it says you're lying no i'm just got bad eyesight when

it was my seventh birthday okay okay on my seventh birthday i was in a car and i was kind of obsessed with playing you know on all the different controls what's in a car the wheel the steering wheel and the handbrake obsessed with it loved it um and one time happened to have the keys left in and i actually was rolling down the hill with the car in drive moving and i had to crash into two cars to make it stop wow oh my god yes what car was it i was too young god. Yes. What car was it? I was too young to know what car. Whose car was it? It was my nan's car.

Your nan's car? Yeah. So why were you in the car by yourself? Oh, she was just going in and getting a birthday present for me. For you? Yeah. Okay.

Okay, next story. story okay um one time a couple of years ago i accidentally ended up meeting two members of um the very well-known band one direction in one evening okay one of them was outside my house. Doing what? Walking. And how did you see him? With my eyes. Were you just looking out the window? Oh, no, no. I was walking home. Oh, okay.

And walked past him. Loopholes. Eyes. How old were you? This was like 2019, I'd say. Where was he going? I wasn't able to ask. You said hello, though.

No, I was on the phone at the time, and I just couldn't really... I was just screaming. You were screaming by yourself? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he not worried about you? He was running away. You said you saw two of them? Yes. So I'd seen another one earlier on in the evening at an event oh yes what event was it uh it was a it was a cd party uh listening to an album it was an album

cd 2003 who's album party yes an album party was it one direction's album party uh no just one of them their parties for their upcoming album who but who no oh okay and he was there no i was at the event and then he was on the street harry was on the street what was he wearing uh a bake a baker boy hat a break what's that okay what was he doing walking just was he on? A baker boy hat. A baker? What's that? Okay. What was he doing? What bakers wear. Walking. Just, was he on the phone?

He was on the phone. He was on the phone to someone else. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay? Okay. Good. Yeah.

Okay. And. This is lovely. And number three. Yeah. So, about four years ago, I was actually scouted to be on Love Island. And I had just joined this job here. And I was told that I couldn't go on because I couldn't take an extended sabbatical to do the six weeks of the show.

So I could have been big and famous. So four years ago, that's 2019. Yes. The same year you met Harry and Niall. Yes. That was a good year for you. Big year. Yeah. Yeah. years ago that's 2019 yes the same year you met harry and niall yes big year big year yeah yeah but it was like it was um it was i think it was danny dyer the year that she won so i don't think

i would have matched up against the son of eastenders gods that son daughter i wasn't alive did you not consider just leaving the job i think because i didn't have a profile built before i didn't really think it would like if it all went wrong it would benefit me so I kind of went the other way and took the stable nine to five how did they scout you Instagram through Instagram yeah are you not private on Instagram no not okay not by then I was doing like a bit of YouTube as well at the time so I I feel like okay that makes sense maybe through that yeah um did you go through any of the application process um just the first interviews load of interviews so it

might not even gone as far as but I had to kind of put it to the workplace to see if I would be even allowed to progress okay yeah hmm i do feel like the first story is very plausible they're all plausible i think the last one is true that could be your life but i think the last one's true uh first one was it your birthday that day yes it was so your granny went to get your present yes on your birthday what day? Yes. It was. So your granny went to get you a present. Yes. On your birthday. What was she getting you? A Nintendo DS.

A Nintendo DS. Yeah, I wasn't allowed it after I crashed the car. But you were seven? Yes. So she left you by yourself in the car. Okay, let's not slate my name. With the key in the ignition. I was responsible for that age.

That's not just popping into the local corner shop and getting a drink of water. Yeah, she's old. She went to John Lewis and got a full on Nintendo DS and left you in the car with the key. I think that's a just popping into the local corner shop and getting a drink of water that she went to john lewis and got a full-on nintendo ds and left you in the car with the keen i think that's a lie i'm sorry i feel like you can give context of where that was okay so there's not a john lewis on the isle of wight that helps we don't even have an ando's so okay um just a store a friend a friend actually it's friends friend's house friends mum's house so it wasn't a shop you said she went into a shop

i didn't mean to say that okay it was bad bad storytelling just like my friends but you're good you're good with your pressure here and it is really coincidental that you met Niall and then you saw Harry walking outside your house outside my house same night that was the same night Hackney yeah wow I feel like he wouldn't be walking alone through Hackney because he's quite famous back then probably walking from Chrissy's house I don't know it's between the first two i think okay i'm gonna say i just don't think your granny would leave a seven-year-old by herself in a car with the key in the ignition that's wild pick up granny though she trusted me uh i'm gonna go with the first one i think wrong oh my god thanks for believing i'd

go on love island oh my god my no my confidence is in the bin i can never go on that that was fake that was a lie that that was very plausible though thank you that was good thank you love island if you're listening a big up to my nanny nanny for paying the insurance of two cars i crashed into wow my lie detection skills are really bad that's okay that was shocking and i asked loads of questions that's why i thought i was gonna get it right i was so convinced we're under pressure it's fine i wasn't under any pressure well i was just chilling i think thinking that i could get it right that's embarrassing it's all good now i'm thinking all the times that my ex-boyfriends lied to me and I just believed them. And I would quiz them about it.

Just stare at him. Yeah. I'm looking at you now, Tom. Amazing. Amazing. We obviously did the two truth, one lie. But maybe this can be our audition for season two of the traitors i won't be going let's see if you can give us a little lie and ask not to text it okay i deserve this um all right okay first one let's go growing up i was um a massive gamer

i love video games i spent a lot of my time doing that. I love Mario Kart. That was one of the games I used to play a lot. I was so good, in fact, that I was in the top 100 global leaderboards for not only Mario Kart Wii, but also Mario Kart Nintendo DS.

Okay. All right. How do you even get into the top leaderboards? just on the ones on the screen uh yeah you play there's like a setting to play against other people like strangers so i would play that a lot because i didn't have any friends so what's your username i think it was trixie and ned one trixie and ned one yeah i don't remember if i actually yeah I think it must have been how old were you when you got this between the ages of like nine till

fifteen probably I was kind of lame any other games you like to play love Super Mario Brothers Sims obviously obviously

RuneScape big up okay don't know what that is heard of it don't know what that one is loser yeah what else though i used to play

everything um crash bandicoot you name it i would have played it right but those the ones i named were my main ones and what was it going the fastest getting the most points you had to win yeah you had to win around the track the quickest okay top 100 you said top 100 in the world in the world age what age again between 9 and. But then obviously not at nine, I wasn't up there because I was still kind of. An apprentice. An apprentice.

And then by the time I got to the age of 15, I was sick. Right. Like annihilated everyone. No one stood a chance. Did you play in a character? I would always be Yoshi or Mario. They were my favorites.

Okay. Next one, please. Next one. mario they were my favorites yeah okay next one please uh next one i used to do foot footwear modeling for asos when i was at uni footwear modeling it's like shoe modeling but your face wasn't in it so it would just you know where they do the catwalk it's just your legs and your feet so were you doing general modeling before this not really i did a few modeling things huh how would they know you've got good feet then? Huh? How would they know you've got good feet? Because I was part of an agency.

So they took pictures of your feet? Yeah. So you went to a foot modeling agency? Well, I tried to become a model. And I knew my friend. She did ASOS footwear modeling as well. Right. So she was like, just join.

Go contact my agency and sign up. And your dogs were good enough to get on asos well i didn't i didn't like ask to be on asos they just put me forward for it would you push your own feet no okay no no no my feet aren't even that nice but how are they on the world's biggest retailers website well they were nice enough for that apparently but you don't really see them do you know what i mean because it's just you're just wearing shoes most of the time. Yeah.

So you didn't have to do any full body shots on those footwear collections? No, just feet. Just shoes. Interesting. I'm a big shopper on ASOS, you see. This was back in like 2016. 2016, on every day. 2015, when I was at uni.

Whilst you were gaming, I was on ASOS. Wow. You were cool and I wasn't what's your point you were getting paid for it yeah okay okay all right any more questions christy no i'm just i'm just looking i'm just looking observing okay okay number three surprised you're not interrogating me like i interrogated you you have to you have to straight for the sweat yeah it's good to look alright final one again when I was at uni

I had partied with Prince Harry a couple times was he at uni as well? no this was when he was not at uni Prince Harry yes your guy

my guy Harry he probably wouldn't remember me why was he at the parties? so I used to work in nightclubs doing like hostessing oh yeah why was he at the parties so i used to work uh in nightclubs doing like hostessing oh yeah he was quite a wild one so i wouldn't yeah i wouldn't want to pass him and uh yeah he used to come in to the to one club that i used to work and i'm not going to mention

it just just just in case i might get in trouble and uh yeah he would come through like a back entrance and a curtain would get pulled we We'd be partying with Prince Harry. Is coughing lying? Christine? Are you all right? Did you watch that so far? No, I'm good. Okay.

Did you ever speak to him? Yeah, a little bit, but not really because he was just more in the party mood. So he wasn't... I thought he wasn't allowed to speak to anybody but me. Oh, well, in your dreams. This was pre-Meghan Markle days. Pre-Meghan, okay.

I think. I think he was definitely single. I never had anything like that with him. No. Thanks for specifying. Well, just in case it was implied. No. Understood.

You all right? Yeah, I'm good yeah good okay i'm feeling a bit of a pressure here yeah any do you know what she did she looked down at her feet when she talked about the one that she was cast yeah yeah exactly did you look down at her feet i think yeah sorry oh she's sorry sorry sorry sorry i i would also say the foot was uh not real yeah why because it's just about believe that i have nice because because i asked if you were in the modeling thing first to get into foot modeling and you said no and then when i said what you just did in a foot modeling agency and then you said and you wanted to be a model no but i wasn't i wasn't i was a student and i was trying to earn money on the side my friend was a footwear model and i was like wow

that's how long has she been was she doing it for a good few years but she was an actual model as well but she was part of a agency called body london they they specify in hair modeling and that kind of thing but then you won't post your own feet up yeah but i'm not gonna just post pictures of my feet on my instagram that's weird defensive she's got defensive christy if somebody appreciates your feet i'll be like right i've got great people they gotta pay for that do you know what i mean i'm not just gonna post pics of my feet i mean what not post people on your story like guys you know feet in the sand right i think i think the foot one yeah i think lie lie lie big lie big lie

batty lie not the prince har Harry one nah I thought that could but then I don't know if the dates are matching up because I swear pre-Meg Markle he was in the army not in

clubs and he used to club when he was younger innit yeah he's quite old now her line is receding yeah

wow sorry sorry sorry sorry no one asked no one asked I think you already called your answer there didn't you yeah i think that lie and it's going to shake the table stick to your guns yeah you guys right you did a cracking job oh my god yeah i realized as soon as i was telling my lie it didn't sound

that plausible it's the look that you looked down i was like why is she looking down it's what you got it's good to observe yeah you did a really good job thank you you did a really good job i'm obsessed with asos asos that's why i know these things but genuinely i did i did know a couple people who did footwear modeling that's why i can ring this i wish i did footwear modeling but i think with the footwear you also need a full body shot which you said you didn't admit to but you actually didn't back then their faces were never in it no yeah just so you were wrong on that i need to shape up on my knowledge it might have changed now yeah but back in the day okay it wasn't like that almost had us and congratulations for being in the top 100

okay it wasn't like that almost had us and congratulations for being in the top 100 it's my biggest flex it's my biggest flex thank you fab so you obviously went on the traitors with tom your boyfriend how did you guys meet what's the tea uh so we met in a very unconventional manner so basically 2021 summer i just had enough of london i was living in bow i was living not far from hackney had enough i was so depressed packed up two suitcases and was like fuck it i'm out of here i was intending to go to california um but at the time because of covid rules you have to be out of the schengen zone for two weeks so i was like i'll go to mexico uh end up in mexico and my friend Julius Dean, who is like a magic influencer, he saw that I was in Mexico.

He was like, oh my God, you're here in the area. Come around to the crib and meet the crew. And I was like, what the hell is he talking about? Anyway, so he had a massive content house running in Mexico, in Playa del Carmen, with a whole team of people. So videographers, editors, creatives, content, other influencers and that kind of thing. editors creatives content other influences and that kind of thing so I got there and I ended up staying with them and became part of the team and one of the team members was Tom and he was the

basically like the head creative of the whole thing and and were you like living there for free or yeah well I got paid yeah oh my gosh making content around magic or it was some magic it was some pranks basically it was just you know those really annoying fucking videos that pop up on facebook and snapchat and tiktok where it's clearly fake and they have millions of views you know like why why is this video got millions it's one of those videos where you want to smash the screen in because you hate the people on the video. Yeah. I was in those videos.

Did you know that that was what would entail your, your character to be? Well, it was just a laugh. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't serious. And because we were just making money,

living in Mexico, having a time of our lives and making these silly videos on the side. Just, yeah, it was mental. Just inconveniencing everyone on the internet yeah fucking our jobs every day yeah literally i feel like the creator houses they get a bit of a bad

rep these days we're just yeah they're very unruly yeah unruly was it like that out there or uh yeah uh at the beginning it was great it was really fun well i came in i was fresh energy and i was loving it and a few people were quite grumpy and i didn't understand why and then it came apparent to me that the more time went on that actually working seven days a week filming every single day wasn't that sustainable and there's a lot of clashing you know you're living and working together and it just it's too much wait did you say seven days a week yeah even the weekends yeah so there's no friday just don't go this friday no no tgifs no tgif no oh yeah my god it was wild uh it was so silly anyway

the business ended it just kind of collapsed because people just had enough um but yeah it did get toxic towards the end definitely and i think i mean one of my kind of reflections on as to why i was a because of that there was no real kind of factoring in people's mental health and any kind of normal business operation you don't work seven days a week because right so you'll know that people end up just becoming miserable and frustrated and angry and there were other various reasons which i won't divulge because probably don't want to make them public but it just i mean it was great while it lasted would i do it again no um but i ended up meeting tom and uh so yeah it was it was it was a it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and it's mental but in your seven days a week working,

how was there a moment to go, I like you, you like me. Oh, because we were literally filming together every day. So he would either be in the videos or he'd be filming the video. And all the videos, he'd be creating the concepts of them. So we'd be working in close proximity every single day. And because he was my director, technically, I i don't know there was a bit of like he's kind of in charge of me it was quite sexy so um a bit of tension developed and and at the

beginning it was oh no like nothing should happen here we were friends we were actually really good friends to begin with um and then just time went by just it was a secret for a long time yeah because we don't want anyone to know so they were lying before the lie of the love the show the lie they were lying or the lion no i know lying is bad but unfortunately sometimes it's kind of necessary yeah um because we were not there were no relationships allowed in the house right yeah again toxic and um so we had to keep it a secret because otherwise i would have been booted out yeah because tom was too essential to making money for the business wow tea yeah tea tea so this is the part of the show where we play

brutal we're gonna rate some very interesting teas brewing on the internet. I'm going to rate and see what we basically think about it. Right. Ready? Yeah. I'm excited to hear these. Let's go. Okay.

Number one. A wedding's red wine and rich food combo cured my constipation. I took a pic of the resulting epic shot. Who wrote this? This hasn't been adapted. Right. Okay. I took a pic of the resulting epic shite

with a disposable camera left on our table that was in my pocket. Mr. and Mrs. have ghosted me since the wedding. Dawned on me later that all the preceding pics were selfies. Wait, what? I mean, so at a wedding they've had like a... Like, what? Okay, I'm going to be the first to say that I don't think...

I mean, it's gross. That's not ghosting worthy. Like, lighten up a a bit do you know what i mean like everyone shits we're not no one's no one's immune to pooing how did they know it was his it didn't have a fucking label on the top wait wait i'm still trying to process what actually happened and you gotta talk about people she's at a wedding and he's done a poo and took a really big poo and took a picture of it with the like disposable cameras oh and they've said oh it's not like he's stuck a poo and took a really big poo and took a picture of it with the like disposable cameras oh and they've sent oh it's not like

he's stuck you know the little book in weddings yeah it's not like he's done that no that would be bad lighten up

lighten up just have a day off do you know what I mean like it's just life's too short to care about things like that absolutely not ghosting material

no you don't want those people's friends anyway I think yeah there we go if anything as a bit of spice to the to the wedding there we go there we go that's that's uncle john's pig so what were you reading that what were you right at oh out of 10 yeah as in 10 being the worst yeah purely for the ghosting i'd say that's pretty shit

so seven but i mean four we actually did i think it's about three yeah i don't think it's that deep three i think it's all right yeah give it a three funny as hell i'd love that okay right all right so this one says i had a oh english this happens all the time i had a friend confess that every time he stayed at my apartment which was frequently because we lived in different countries sometimes he would stay for a month at a time he watched me sleep i woke up with him staring at me he was literally inches away from my face just staring just staring and i freaked out he broke down and confessed my husband was asleep next to me what's what was he confessing wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

wait wait wait i woke up i woke with him staring at staring i woke up with him staring at me he was literally inches away from my face just staring and i freaked out he broke down and confessed my husband was asleep next to me oh as in he broke down and confessed what he was doing and her husband was also asleep next to her at the time i think that's what that means yeah okay um that's really weird yeah and i don't think i could be i i knowing me i forgive and forget really easily to detriment but oh it'd be uh i'd i'd try and understand why yeah but i still find it weird why are you staring at me when i'm sleeping is he is he lonely is he lonely is he is he lonely is he lonely is is he yeah but surely if he's lonely he wants to be while i'm active and awake yeah not when i'm shall we find you a good therapist yes that's what i would take

yeah uh so i think six out of ten because i feel sorry for this person oh there's something deep rooted there that needs needs looking out i'll say four because if if i wake up and i punch you in the face because your face is in my face i will feel bad so i have to give it a four because that'll still help you find help do you get you know what i mean like a face in my face yeah a face in your face yeah no that's completely justifiable yeah four for me yeah lauren um that that would give me nightmares uh that's the seven i think okay like my sleep paranoia is already through the roof i don't need to imagine my friend fucking having his face full no yeah yeah ptsd from that yeah sure

so this is the part of the show where you spill the tea and we try not to producer bobby off to you ready to you producer bobby off to you ready cool one time when i was in middle school i walked into the classroom and saw a huge bug on the floor and stomped on it and killed it then the teacher said the praying mantis class pet was missing and to watch our step I was making out with a guy and he pulled away and said I'm sorry but your breath smells so bad but then leaned in to kiss me some more and then pulled away again and said

I'm sorry I can't do this so I ran out of his apartment but my flip flop caught the stare and I fell all the way down the stairs whilst he stared at me that's horrible series of unfortunate events okay reload reload reload okay thinking about the time my kid was screaming trying to get away from me in the supermarket

so i held on to her hand while she got progressively more upset then i looked over to see my child stood with her dad and i'm there holding some random kid hostage market so i held on to her hand while she got progressively more upset then i looked over to see my child stood with her dad and i'm there holding some random kid hostage once i was going down on my girlfriend and my fake tooth fell out i was too preoccupied to notice when i returned from down under we were kissing and she noticed she pulled my head back to see what was up and did a full double take at my mouth i realized what happened and started trying to explain when she reached down fumbled around her bit and pulled my tooth that had been stuck to one of her labia.

That's horrid. That's horrid. Can you put the tooth back in? Can you imagine if he did? What would you do? Have you seen the movie Teeth? Oh, it's the vagina with teeth? Yeah. I've heard.

Heard of her. I heard that's what that film was based on. I'm too good of a wife. Oh, wow. Paid for. Whoa. Okay. Long one.

Right. I was lucky enough to be chosen for an award giving out to only a handful of employees at my job. It's a huge company, so it was a big deal. I was honoured and very proud of myself. To receive this award, the recipients were expected to attend a company award ceremony that hundreds of people attend. And although it isn't required, most award winners give a speech thanking their mentors and the company. Fast forward a couple of weeks and the big night was finally here. I bought a sexy dress and even memorised my speech after a lovely meal with my colleagues and the big night was finally here. I bought a sexy dress

and even memorized my speech after a lovely meal with my colleagues and a bit of mingling. Because of my last name I was going to be the last one to receive my award and the nerves started to kick in. Finally my name was called and I ushered my way up to the stage. Once I was handed my award from the host I was given a microphone and suddenly felt everyone's eyes on me. I noticed that my dress had ridden up a bit so with the hand that was holding the microphone I grabbed the bottom of my dress to pull it down. Now I don't know how it happened but while the microphone was hovering over my crotch area I let out the wettest loudest queef I have ever expelled in my life. Maybe it was the nerves, maybe it was the nerves maybe it was the excitement the crowd remained completely silent

and i couldn't stand there for another second so i calmly handed the microphone to the host walked to my car and drove away why do i keep fucking over milling my legs every time i laugh whoa that's unfortunate that is horrible bless her poor girl i know what a queef now is well okay well that was it that was what we had today um no no big spillages today me sorry i have a little wet wetageage over here sorry RIP Mike so fine um okay well

how'd our ground well done I see you were quite contained there I don't know if you want to say any kind of final thoughts

feelings feelings how do you feel today went it's like a therapy group session well I feel like um any highs and lows yeah um highs the fact that we're How do you feel today went? It's like a therapy group session. Well, I feel like...

Any highs and lows? Yeah. Highs, the fact that we're all matching our sets. I know! Unintentionally. Obsessed with that. Love the synchronicity there. We're obviously maybe the second version of the Sugar Babes.

You are the third member of our cast and first guest on T4. Period. I feel really privileged. I think it's been fun. It's been amazing. And I'm really sad it's over, if I'm'm completely honest i could sit here and chat all day and i don't normally feel that way sometimes like okay i want to get the hell out of here but i actually feel like this is the lie

no there is sincerity pouring through my pores um i i am genuinely really really sad that this is this is done well you're welcome back anytime she's allowed she's got the green pass the red pass the black card to come back onto the show whoa huge i've got triple a triple a there you go yeah amazing well thanks for joining us on this week's episode of tier four join us next week for another episode bye even the ending was good oh yeah

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