Tea at Four - Ep 22: The Devil Works Hard But The True Crime Girlies Work Harder

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

In today's episode Christie and Scott are talking about all things true crime, from some of the most shocking cases to why true crime is so popular in the media.

You are now tuned in to podcast T-at-4 crime dramas, true stories, the mysterious death of Elsa. Hi guys, welcome back to T-at-4, I'm Christy and today unfortunately we don't have Lauren as she's off on her travels. But it's okay because I've got my second favourite person, my colleague... Scott! Yes he is! Second favourite. Yeah because obviously I can't say that you're my first because Lauren will probably kill me. Lauren we love you, can't wait for you to come back and show us what you've been up to.

Miss you. Can't wait for you to come back and show us what you've been up to. But today, Scott, as you can see, we are dressed in prison outfits, jumpsuits. Prison jumpsuits. Jumpsuits, yeah. Jumpsuits, I like jumpsuits. Sounds nice. And we're talking all things true crime. Yeah. Petty crime. Petty crime. Yeah.

Any sort of crime. We're being criminals today. Well, maybe Scott is, not me. But Scott, any criminal records you gotta come and unleash should i say that well today everything's gonna be spilled on the table because this is everything that should have stayed in the group chat and we're bringing it to you guys today so scott enlighten me true crime is it something that you watch is something that you like i personally love it okay all over my for you feed uh on tiktok the true crime girlies devil works hard but the true crime girlies work harder yeah honestly they the the length of the episodes the depth they go into

yeah sort of like about these they almost seem like conspiracies okay but i love it i'm so invested i just don't understand the obsession really i'm not gonna lie for me but i'm can i say i'm a pussy can i say i'm a pussy i'm allowed to say that i am so shook of like the real world and stuff things like that scare me so the fact that people like apparently netflix abundance of true crime dramas documentaries everywhere tiktok now is getting worse on your full you page not mine can't hide from not mine what kind of crime are you trying to commit that you're watching all of these um things scott like what's going on what's so like my ideal crime okay let's okay let's hear this what's my ideal crime um well i'm always running late so it

probably would be speeding for one if it was actually going to be like real life but identity theft what would you not want to like be somebody else is there not someone you want to be like catch me cutting about southeast london and chris jennewick living my life really yeah no not an identity crime i think that's so funny okay how how would you okay talk me through it so how would you work to create the identity of this person you're trying to steal like how does it work so you've got to get the outfit okay i get wig clothing yep and then i would just go about my daily life and if people start asking to take pictures with me i'll be like yeah i am just jenna Delusional. Yeah. You're actually, yeah,

that's my crime. The delusion is also delusion for you. I think for me, oh, crime, ideal crime, probably speeding as well, because I've got some mad road rage.

Yeah. We know you in that car. I've got some mad road rage. It's really bad. And I didn't think I was going to be that person, but if not that, or maybe, can,

can a crime be being very, um, annoying? Is that a crime? not that or maybe um can can a crime be being very um annoying is that a crime is that a crime is it a crime to be too annoying is it no i don't think so probably not it's probably not actually illegal i'm so innocent like to be honest i shouldn't even be sitting here with this gel seat on please and thank you because i'm so innocent but um scott why do you think people are so obsessed with like true crime and the fantasy around it so the reason i think people are actually so obsessed with it is similar to like conspiracy theories yeah but conspiracy is not real it's just a perception or something i know but see some of these crimes especially the ones that i get really into they sound they're so outrageous like so detailed and it's like surely no normal person could ever commit a crime like

that or like murder someone like that yeah but it's like it just gets worse and worse and worse but then my thing is doesn't that scare you personally it doesn't scare me because i just think i don't know i feel like they're not actually real even though they are so eve let's say for instance right there was like a true crime drama on something that happened on your street so you're you're there watching it knowing that you live you live on the street but you're like yeah it's it's okay this is the thing right i don't come across many in the uk they all seem to be over in america oh so so it's the american ones that you if it's over that side of the water it's nothing to worry about so can i ask have you ever watched crime watch yes all right

okay cool so that's based in the uk right and you're telling me you will sit there cup of tea popcorn engaged watching all that crime transpire on the screen don't get me started i have an irrational fit thank you yeah so when i was younger you know when they're like looking for someone they put together the little cgi yeah um this is what the person looks like yeah shit the life out of me honestly i would have nightmares that they'd be at my window i'd be walking down the road and like catch someone's face yeah it's them it's the criminal no i honestly feel like there's don't get don't get me wrong like i don't mind like the makeshift you know films tv dramas you know i love a good

prison break yeah what's the guy's name from prison break again the main guy the one who was with mariah gary was he with mariah no he wasn't i think no i think he was but i think you're making it up i think it was a facade but who's what's his name michael was his actor name yeah yeah what's the guy's name that's it delicious man that's delicious right i don't mind that type of crime you know i mean where it's like oh yeah you're breaking out of prison and stuff but when it comes to like the ones that feel close to home i personally don't know how you can sit there and normalize what you're seeing on the screen yeah that's for me it's scary when it's close yeah so then why do you think there's that such a rise and why are people so interested in that it's like it's just trying to make

crime normal or trying to like control our fears when it comes to crime maybe yeah maybe it's sort of just like fear of sort of like what could happen yeah but it's already happened it's happened that's it though but like for people it's like this stuff is actually happening out there yeah so like maybe it's sort of like the interest in like oh my god like no this is real i need to like find out more about it but then i feel like for me if let's say for instance i was into true crime what what you people then what i feel like that would be the perfect moment for me to sit down notes all right cool this is what they did all right cool i'm gonna write this down i'm gonna try this crime that they did but in a better way so you're basically feed no you're

feeding the next criminals okay by your podcast via your tv screens and via your that is true i guess yeah i guess you're giving it giving ideas, which can't be good. Have you not had any ideas watching? I don't think I should tell you. No, but if, like, is there anything that you've come across, like any morbid, crazy stories? Because guys, me, I don't watch that. Me, I watch my extenders.

You know, I like my safe, sound, make-believe dramas. Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what, I've actually got one that isn't even like a famous true crime so one of my friends uh when she was younger was watching the news um and she was like oh my god that's my dad's house what like helicopters like filming the dad's house and everything and she's like mom mom like what's this on tv yeah her mom comes over it was actually outside her dad's house the neighbor had um had a fight with someone else on the street decapitated them and left their head

in the wheelie bin yeah wait as in the the ones that they come every tuesday to come outside the front on the road someone opened their wheelie bin just put their bins in and there was a whole somebody's head yeah yeah it's crazy because you don't those type of things you see that have you watched you yeah that's a joe whatever joel goldberg but like how could you actually get so angry at your neighbor like talk about neighbor wars and they love us yeah what the hell yeah no i yeah i'm i'm gonna stick with i personally do feel like these tv dramas are and those true crimes don't get me wrong like i've i think the only one i've watched was can i even remember

alcatraz alcatraz okay alcatraz have you not like the the world's greatest escape of alcatraz oh yeah that's a good crime though like escape in prison like that's interesting so when i think of true crime that's what i think of escape in prison i don't think of what you just spoke about the killing people and chopping their heads off and put them in the bin like i know man's business i know and that was north london as well oh what's it whereabouts kilburn north london yeah that's northwest close enough listen i live in north not in my area not in my area but um i think that's mad that is so mad if you were to get away with a crime right yeah any type of crime out there it could be anything anything i mean you're wearing a gel suit right now right exactly

so what crime have you committed for you to be sitting right here at tf4 sipping tea with me in the jail in this beautiful jail house What crime would you have committed? What crime? What would I or what have I? What do you want to tell me? I mean. Do you want to tell me both? I've got a petty crime, but I'd need a smaller jumpsuit because I was about eight. What was it?

Let's hear. Right. So this is actually quite bad. Oh, good. I apologize, mum, in advance. Oh. But when I was about six, I't know really young i was going in my mom's purse and basically taking out like a little 50p here okay one pound there okay until uh this this went on for a while right i was just like picking at the change and then um went out with my dad and went into a toy

shop and i was like oh i want this toy he's like nope not having that it's 40 quid yeah i was like i'll buy it with my own money then and he was like yeah all right out i pull this massive bag of change i had 45 pounds in change accumulated from my mother's purse mama scott if you hear this i'm sorry i'm sorry yeah um and yeah obviously got a whooping got taken home and did you still get the toy of course i didn't my mom sat me on the table at home was like you know that's stealing scott and i was like no but to be honest it's from your mom exactly like some change for an ice and plus it's like saving you will learn how to save from young exactly and she got the 45 quid back so it's basically a saving scheme oh mama scott mama scott no that's actually actually yeah pick up here i don't think you need

a gel seat for that exactly yeah yeah any emphasis on the petty crime so petty starting small right yeah yeah something like little that's not a little okay okay i did i didn't do this i didn't do this but i do remember back in the day my hands are up because it was me back in the day um primark right you know the earrings yeah and that the pack of like bear earrings so i i know some friends some friends they used to go in there why is my head still up please primark no you're just a kid they come and be like oh so you're one of them no it wasn't me so i remember my friends obviously school friends to go in there you know walk around yeah my hands are starting to hurt yeah and then they used to like pick pocket the the earrings right yeah from yeah yeah yeah i mean two pound fifty that's everyone in school though isn't it like

not me i didn't do it i know people in school who did that though i didn't do it i think okay that really hurts maybe blue fingers so i watch a lot of true crime on netflix criminal like but um do you watch any do you watch any at all um that's not even real that's not true crime nah so like what about dharma or is that dumb on the glasses yeah i'm not gonna lie because the guy looks very very scary it put me off watching it it looked it looks a very big that one actually is really gruesome that one's really i don't know what it's about but what about don't fuck with cats well i don't like cats so i won't be watching anything but that had me in a chokehold right so it's basically about this guy who he makes a sort of like a

youtube video of him killing a cat like yeah literally like puts him into like a bin bag and like vacuums out the air right which for one is like it's all right if it's like people i can deal with it but like as soon as it's animals i was literally like wait hold on you hold on hold on you just wait wait wait if it's people i can deal with it but when it comes to animals you are you are fine you know did you just hear what you said yeah when it comes to basically yeah but never it's like marley and me it's so sad when the dog dies isn't it guys disclaimer this podcast we love animals we love dogs we love cats we love everyone i'm just i can't vouch for my friends and my colleagues

that talk about dogs dogs and cats are going through pain but um so yeah he puts the puts the cats into a minibar kills and films it puts it on youtube right now over to i think her name's baldy is the name of this woman right yeah runs a cat lovers group on facebook yeah sees this video yeah she's absolutely like heartbroken by it yeah um and basically launches a manhunt for the guy who's in this video who kills the cats okay and like basically amasses like this big team of people all on facebook yeah and he's like just search like looking in the back of these videos like he'll have something hung up on the wall yeah they reverse image search it fine and that's only sold in this these states in the u.s yeah so then like is looking in the states trying to find like the people like

picking up crumbs to basically work out who this murderer is and it sort of goes on i think he done like two videos where it was like animals getting killed then it went on to he actually killed a person um and what's really really messed up is the, his name's like Luca Magnotta, the guy who actually done it. So it's a real life story? Yeah, it's really true. Yeah, like he's in jail now. But he also was in these cat lovers groups, made like fake accounts

and was trying to like throw them off the scent and like do all of this stuff. And he was like, make it like he wanted to be like, he's obviously like stuff and he was like make it like he wanted to be like he's obviously like a psychopath of course but like he wanted to be an actor right and he wanted fame so by killing animals yeah so he like made like loads of accounts yeah to sort of follow himself to make himself look famous and it's like oh it's so mad but i think he just loved the attention of sort of like that killing these animals and obviously people was giving him that there was so many people out there looking

for him until eventually he just sort of got arrested it was in like i think it was in germany yeah um but yeah they finally found him in the end down to that woman and her her cat friends who basically hunted him down and got him put in jail i oh do you know what yeah what's just ah so you're sitting there watching a guy's video of him killing a cat the poor cat's making they don't they obviously don't properly show it but like yeah they very they show some of the video but i think that's so crazy yeah that i'm pretty sure that video got loads of views online right um i think when like when the woman found it i think

it was only on like a few thousand like it wasn't it wasn't like crazy yeah so yeah i don't even know it was it's just so crazy to me how it was it wasn't even the police who found him yeah it was like it was the facebook warriors like on this group who just were like no you are not you're not gonna fuck with our cats i'm actually i find that out of order yeah but then i find the facebook group it's like those people on like for instance tiktok that they cover like a story yeah i feel like they have more information than the flipping police like you just said the facebook group are the ones that found yeah the killer not the bleeding police hello police so y'all do something wrong but um wow like that's crazy we have too much time on

our hands absolutely mad yeah and to think like that someone could actually do that and it was kittens as well see i'm not a cat lover but me either but like come on and you watched this did you not give you nightmares yeah it did this one actually messed with me. And like each episode of the series, I remember it. It messed with you, but you're still watching it? Yeah. Because I'm hooked.

Crazy people. Okay, yeah. It's like horror films. You can like a horror film. No, I am a pussy. Yeah. I said I'm a pussy. Meow.

Not me. Don't fuck with cats. No, don't fuck with cats. Don't fuck with, I don't fuck with horror. I don't fuck, anything that is like, no, I don't fuck with it. For fuck with I don't fuck with her I don't fuck anything that is like no I don't fuck with it

for me personally I like peace I don't I want peace not problems so I don't want no problems when I'm sleeping right I want a nice peaceful sleep think of something else

don't haunt me there don't haunt me there like that's my time of rest let me rest well I just can't do it I feel like it's it's mentally challenging right

in a sense I do kind of get where you guys are more like very curious to be like why did a person like that how do they get like this what's their background and stuff but i'm not gonna lie that will mess with my head because now i'm looking at everyone like you could be you all could be you know capable of committing something sort of it's sort of down to like your your you obviously don't have the thought process of a psychopath whereas like i i got told something really good once and it was no it's actually quite a good analogy of like how a psychopath's brain would work okay so guy goes to a wedding who is a psychopath and he sees a girl that he really really likes it's a family wedding but like sees a girl that like he sort of fancies really wants to see her again how do you think

in his brain he works it to see her again stalks her no murders her cousin what it's a family wedding murders her cousin because then they'll have a funeral and that's his chance to see her again that could literally that's literally how like the thought processes work they have no empathy for killing people they're just like get them out of the way like get rid of them huh yeah if there's any family members that are psychotic and are psychopaths. Yeah, exactly. Don't get me. That is crazy.

But then wait, so they'll kill somebody that's in their way. So what if that, surely they do have some sort of emotion. So what if that person, let's say for instance, no, they probably could kill their mother as well, wouldn't they? Well, yeah, that's it. They don't have, they have no emotion. Sort of like these people who can just serial killers, basicallyiness for instance is it chucky yeah that's not a real that's not real christy that's a doll that came to life

okay let's try again let's try what. What about Home and Away? Home and Away. That's like. No, no, no. Home Alone. You've gone from one thing to another. Home and Away is that. It's like Neighbours, like Australia, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Home and Away. The Grubbers and Home Alone. I think just the thing, my type of crime that I don't mind watching is the fake ones. The ones that are not based on a true story. The ones where you can watch that, on a true story um the ones where you can watch that feel a bit scared feel a bit oh my god shocked but then you know oh it's not it's not true when you listen to that i feel like for instance if i was to make my way home do you listen to podcasts like true crime podcasts on your way home no i don't i don't listen to podcasts

i'm more of a series okay so those that let's say for instance they're driving to work they're listening to their podcast like a true crime podcast you're walking home it's late at night it's dark and the podcast is about um somebody that robs people whilst they walk why are you scaring yourself have you have you ever heard some of these like podcasts or for instance i see a lot of the tiktok videos yeah it's the way that they explain it and it's it's the I don't know if it's like the people who become popular it's their voices and like the tone of how they do it but literally it's like do you want to give me an example

it would just be like and he took her down the road and chopped her head off and like it would be like so and it's like how are you so calm as you say this well speaking of we've actually got a couple of stories for you guys to read. Chris is going to cry.

Your best true crime podcast impression. So right now we have brought down the lights. We have set the mood because we are about to try and read some true crime stories in our best true crime podcasting crime boys boys all right so scott you're gonna go first like i need to believe it i need to be intrigued i need to be in the drama all right for a moment okay let's go all right the case of the vanishing family no next too much for christy but that wasn't giving me a switch channel it was yeah start again play okay right okay the case of the vanishing family in 2010 a seemingly ordinary fap you're trying to

you're trying to entice me what What do you want me to do? Give me the best voice. Let's go. In 2010, a seemingly ordinary family of four from Ohio, the Sodders, experienced a tragic event on Christmas Eve that would leave the community baffled for years to come. On that fateful night, a fire broke out in their home. And while Mr. and mrs sodder and

four of their children managed to escape their five other children aged 5 to 14 vanished without a trace as investigators sift through the rubble they found no remains of the missing children and the cause of the fire remained undetermined. The Sodders, refusing to believe their children had perished, launched their own investigation and uncovered a series of strange occurrences leading up to the fire. Witnesses reported seeing unidentified individuals near the Sodder home on the night of the fire, and a mysterious telephone call with a disturbing message

was received by the Sodder household prior to the incident. Additionally, a woman claiming to have seen the missing children in a car passing through town sparked further intrigue. Despite the Sodders' relentless efforts to find their missing children, no credible leads emerged and the case grew cold. However, in a shocking turn of events, over two decades later, a woman contacted the Sodder family claiming to be one of the missing children.

She recounted a chilling story of abduction and forced separation from her siblings on that Christmas Eve night. While the story ended with a twist that brought hope to the Sodders, subsequent investigations were unable to confirm the woman's claims, leaving the mystery of the Sodder children's disappearance unresolved to this day. The case of the vanishing family continues to captivate and shock both investigators and the public alike,

with questions remaining about what truly happened on that tragic Christmas Eve night. It's giving Madeleine McCann. Literally? It's actually giving Madeleine McCann. Literally? It's actually giving Madeleine McCann. That's quite scary though. Yeah. Not the woman saying it was her. Can you imagine?

I know. Do you think it actually was her? Or do you think she was just like, Who knows? Pick me. No, but who knows? I feel like sometimes people do actually could be like, yeah, it's me.

I'm not going to do that. People won't believe them. And it's like, that was my perfect chance of me, you know, admitting my crime, but you don't want to leave then i go back to my business exactly so yeah well scott i'm about to show you how i think real yeah okay true crime podcast readers yeah okay deliver the message of fear all right hear, here it is. I'm scared. You are now tuned in to

podcast Tea at Four Crime Dramas True Stories The Mysterious Death of Elsa Is that like as I'm stuck in a room? I'm stuck in a room. The Mysterious Death the mysterious death of elsa lamb in 2013 elsa lamb a 21 year old canadian student stop looking you're going to make me laugh. I guess I'm all true, I'm sure. Checked

into the Cecile Hotel in Los Angeles during a solar trip. However, when she failed to check out and her family couldn't reach her, a massive search effort was launched. I'm still waiting. Weeks later, reach her a massive search effort was launched weeks later her body was discovered in a rooftop

water tank of the hotel raising numerous questions about how she ended up there the case took a bizarre turn when security footage from the hotel's elevator was released in the footage is it Elsa or Elisa? is it Elisa?

is it Elisa? Elisa Elisa E-Lisa E-Lisa that's not Elsa yeah Elisa Elisa

gotta make sure you know say the right name you know Elisa is seen acting. Gotta make sure you know, say the right name, you know? Elisa is seen acting erratically, pressing multiple buttons and peering out of the elevator as if someone was following her. No, I didn't mean to do that.

Back to podcast voice. Her behaviour appeared strange and puzzling, leaving investigators and the public perplexed. Was she trying to hide from someone? Was she experiencing a mental health episode? Dot, dot, dot. As the investigation unfolded, theories raging from foul play to paranormal phenomenon emerged.

Some speculated that Elisa was a victim of foul play, while others believed that she may have suffered from a mental health crisis that led her to the water tank. However, no definite answers no definite answers were found and the case of Elisa Lam mysterious death remains unsolved

leaving many unanswered questions and fueling ongoing speculation and intrigue oh my god you didn't let me land no we've got to do that again wait wait intrigued

I was about to say you should have a career change I was bloody chilling if you heard it there now that's that's how that's how you do it how you do it

that's how you do it that's how you read some true crime do it that's how you do it that's how you read some true crime podcast okay yeah you've got me there you've got me there did you like that one yeah

it was sending like shivers down my spine I'm not gonna lie whilst reading it I said to myself yeah the people that come up with these stories

these are real stories right when they find these stories yeah I've seen I've seen the video of her in the elevator oh so it's yeah there's actual seen the video of her in the elevator yeah there's actual cctv footage of her like in the elevator like yeah it's real it's true story okay question you see how there's it's a true story right you see how people can manipulate certain

videos and stuff right don't you think sometimes they exaggerate and then they manipulate these stories just to make them extra more juicy extra more saucy maybe yeah i don't know but that's the thing that's it you don't know it's what if so yeah is it true is it not so y'all just watching it and they're just feeding y'all with with with cap they're capping well i guess that's what you want to believe so you can sleep nice at night yes because who doesn't want i want peace not problems all right scott peace not nightmares i don't want nightmares yeah okay and they're always on like late at night aren't they always and it'll be on like history plus channel you see see what i mean yeah them late night tv shows wow so you guys should be sleeping

enjoying your sleep you guys are racking your brains oh my god there's somebody gonna come and get me that's y'all yeah yeah y'all continue looking behind your shoulders with flash we'll be real so yeah what did you guys think about our interesting voices I know I was better than Scott

because Scott tried but it wasn't really I tried I was given newsreader yeah you're given no but to be honest you were given newsreader and then it was like

talking to your friends and back to newsreader and then you were like and then I think you were engaged like you were interested I was like I was getting into it

yeah you were getting into it whereas me it was I even gave you guys pauses to think it was a performance thank you like you're even looking behind your like the goosebumps or goosebumping i went for informative you went for you went for like dramatic reading yeah but guys it's true crime not not dramatic reading i'm trying to sell the story here you know yeah get so listeners did i give you the chills the goosebumps the you know shivers down the spine or did scott just put you guys to sleep and change your channel did i give you guys the information you need whose podcast would you tune

into mine or scott this is the part where we play a game called brutal meet up brutal did you get no you didn't get did you i did did you get it i promise i did act like you got it i like it already guys but yeah we're gonna this is the part where we play brutal meet up where we're gonna share some like statements some of them will be crimey some of them are gonna be just general and we're gonna rate them out of 10 of how brutal we think they are okay cool so let's start with this one because this the first line really got me my grandmother confessed to murder on her deathbed right not nanny nanny true criminal usually you'd think it was the pain relief but she was such an

english and just a disclaimer my english is really bad so when it comes to reading my reading is a criminal how about that yeah let's go okay my grandma confessed to murder on her deathbed usually you'd think it was the pain relief but she was such an eccentric such an eccentric it was actually believable we traced all her ex-husbands partners and any other likely candidates and unfortunately no one was missing or died an untimely death but sometimes i wonder oh my god well so she just said like, I've committed murder. I'm out. I'm out. One last word.

What a cliffhanger to leave it on though. Can you imagine? But my thing is, is the fact that you actually believed that your grandma is a murderer. Because why would you then go and trace all her ex-husbands, partners, and likely candidates?

How many did she have? How many? Wow. So yeah. Fortunately, no one was missing or died an untimely death oh i don't think that's that brutal then no but then we never know it could be a friend that wasn't her she didn't say yeah she confessed to murder she didn't say

if it was a human if it was an animal because you know you people love killing animals exactly so but sometimes I wonder I wonder yeah I wonder what you're rating this brutal out of 10 I know I'd probably say like

4 4 yeah I'm not that bad yeah I don't think it's that brutal to be honest knowing me I'm a funny person

so I'll probably end on a cliffhanger like that yeah bye guys I left some money somewhere yeah there's a hundred grand somewhere somewhere in my house you lot have to find it before you send it imagine so yeah i guess yeah i think four i'll give it a four yeah yeah i think four four's a good one next one i don't think i've ever said this out loud before because it's so damn weird and people might think

I'm more screwed up than I really am now I'm getting scared but I've always wanted to get whoa but I've always wanted to get into a car accident like wanted bro this is what this is what it says like the type that gets you hospitalized and severely hurt when I drive I just have this urge to drive straight into traffic or swerve into the opposite lane people think i hate driving because i suck at it but it's really because i have this huge urge every time i'm alone in the car it's nagging i'm in college now and i take the shuttle to school so i haven't been driving for a month or so but whenever i'm in a car i still have have that craving. What craving? To end it all?

Just like... What? Pull up, screw it, get in the ride. Get out his ride. What the hell? No,

I think... Wait, hold on. She blatantly said... Was it she? I don't know. I don't even care about that part of the story. I don't even care who it is.

He or she wants to just kill. It does say, like, the type that gets you hospitalized and severely hurt. How can you fantasize? This is what, see, this is what you true crime viewers,

audiences, listeners like, because it'll be planting some seeds in your head that makes you want to commit crime. Right, Scott? Yeah, like me. Yeah, that was actually me. I sent that one in. What would you

people think i hate driving because i suck at it but it's really because they have a really Really? Because I'm trying... I don't suck at it. I'm trying to crash. I'm trying to unconvince myself to be in a car so that I don't have to crash. So she's battling with her own demons. Crazy. What are we rating that out of 10? I definitely think that's a nine. A nine.

I'll give it a nine. All right, cool. I'll give you this long one because my English is... I'll take off the scene here. Cool. When I was very little, probably around three four i used to play a game with my parents where i'd go to the bathroom and brush my teeth before bed don't know how that's a game that's just like normal yeah um and when i got to my room they'd pretend to be asleep and i'd find creative ways to wake them up. Well, being so young, I thought my dad was superhero style indestructible.

And in thinking so, I decided to try something that would hurt a kid like me, but wouldn't harm him at all since he was big. I found a pencil laying on the desk and tried to stab him in the eye with it. Luckily, he was peeking and stopped me just before i did it to this day it gives me a sinking feeling in my stomach thinking about what might have happened okay you know my culture yeah they would have said that child is a witch that child is a witch no i'm just that's horrible i'm sorry i wasn't having them thoughts at three four but then again okay a child is innocent but i i hear it with your with your finger yeah yeah but with a pencil but surely you should know like oh that's something sharp stab yourself with a pencil first like yeah that

kind of hurts like rather than criminal testing it out in your dad's eye i mean and where's this person now well i don't know what somewhere with a sinking feeling in their stomach literally what were you rating that i would say probably it's not shocking as the last one no probably seven or eight seven how old how old was the child when they did it around three or four okay so they can't have actually had that much strength with the stand have you have you felt a newborn's grip when they grip your finger actually yeah and those post-pandemic babies be strong my niece has yanked my hair once and that exactly my wig has come off so listen they're strong yeah um i'd

give it yeah probably a six i'd rate a six okay yeah all right what's the next one right a few years ago i was walking through the woods off the beaten track a bit and i smelled this really overpowering sweet smell okay being nosy i pulled back the undergrowth to have a look and found a dead body. See how they described it as overpoweringly sweet? Sweet smell. I'll continue. The guy had clearly been there a while and wasn't looking great. All swollen and green and black with various runny bits. The local wildlife had also been dining well for a few days.

Damn. I called the police, who told me to wait with the body until they arrived. Huh? I must wait. Yeah, I'll just point you to where it is from the road. I won't be going back. Being in the middle of nowhere,

it took a while for them to arrive, and it got dark, and I was just sat there in the dark with him for a long time. It turned out he had committed suicide. For a long time afterwards, I had dreams about him and he would talk to me and not nice things, mainly about how he was angry I had disturbed his resting place and he wanted me to kill myself. Probably just my imagination, but all pretty disturbing at the time he still turns up in my dreams from time to time and no doubt will be in them tonight after typing this god forbid get the sage out this is this is what i mean i feel like stuff like that i feel like that's what happens when you watch or listen

to true crime podcasts documentaries tv shows no christy it's what happens when you find a dead body no but also no but also when you watch these things because no sorry so now i'm being haunted for for finding something that i didn't know oh god the local wildlife have been eating him as well yeah that's brutal me oh i'm giving that a 10 i'm so sorry i'm giving that a 10 he had to sit with a body blessing why are you sitting i'll be out the body's there i'll be like i put an x amongst the sport yeah and i'm i'm going home on the map you know i mean see you later i'm going home we're going to the church to get some cleansing because what the hell definitely yeah cool give that 10 that's 10. That's a 10 for me.

So this is the part of the show where you spill the tea and we try not to. So Scott, are you ready to play Don't Spill the Tea? I think so. Yeah? No, I think I am. Let's get it. Let's do it. All right.

Ready? When I was 13, a doctor prescribed me an adult dose for a certain medicine based on my weight i was a big kid but it ended up constipating me for a month i did not poo for a whole month i obviously got sick i had raccoon like eyes and my stomach would jump by itself the cramps were so bad i finally told my parents how long it had been since i had a poo and they freaked out and took me to the hospital there they gave me three enemas back to back after the third and final one all of that water softened all that poo up just enough so i could shit everywhere oh wait i read it wrong after the third and final one all of that water softened all of that poo up just enough so i could

expel it i ran to the nearest bathroom with my gown open at the back and tried to make it in time i didn't my ass was hovering at the 45 degree angle above the toilet when i burst i got shit everywhere on the ceiling on the floor the toilet was covered the walls even the sink got hit with some spray i felt like a new kid after that i cleaned myself up the best i could and then left the bathroom and told a nurse it needed cleaning badly a janitor was only a few rooms down from the bathroom so i saw him go by to clean it up and shout oh hell no i ain't cleaning that up i quit and he did when you gotta go you gotta let it go.

It's like that scene in Daddy Daycare. You know where he goes inside? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is mad, though. Yeah. Oh, God. Right. Today I fucked up by forgetting about my butt plug. My husband and I like butt plugs.

We did our last... We did our thing last night once our young daughter was in bed. Afterwards I took the plug out in the bathroom and washed it with antibacterial soap and put it on the side whilst I had a shower. For context, this plug was pretty with a red heart-shaped gem on it. I accidentally left the plug in the bathroom when i went to bed fast forward to around 11 a.m sudden today and i suddenly remembered where i'd left it i go and look for it and it's gone i work a lot so my husband knows i like to sleep in on my days

off and he took the kids to school this morning my heart fucking sank and i started freaking out i called the school and lied that my daughter had a dentist appointment and i needed to get her once she's in the car i asked her if she took something to school this morning with a heart gem on it she said yes and that she wanted to show her friends i asked if i can have it back but it turns out she's lost it so it seems like my pretty butt plug is somewhere at my kid's school i knew it this was going and i was i was praying that the child didn't have it in her mouth yeah i honestly thought that it was gonna be a dummy that would have been i was i was like no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no when i was 13 me and my friend decided to play a spitting game where we would alternate spitting out of the window i'm not sure what the end goal of this game was but either way it ended with me

accidentally spitting on my on the head of this lady walking past we tried to hide but she immediately looked up and yelled at us she rang the doorbell to my house my mom opened it she told my mom we spat on her my mum yelled at us to come down immediately i had to awkwardly look at her and say sorry for spitting a big ball of phlegm all over her hair that is so embarrassing having to apologize afterwards no but what's even more embarrassing is the fact that that lady has got got her and she's got a wash oh gosh it's a flemmat

Christy do your best impression of a woman who's just got spat on outside you're walking along no no no I'll be like wait what no but you will touch it as well no I think I'd kill somebody that would be your true crime

if someone's don't spit on Christy if you see her in the street no but I've been I've been shot on by by who? by whom? by a flying rat.

By a pigeon. By a pigeon. By a pigeon. I've been shat on. By a pigeon. It's okay if you're into it. No, I'm not. That's a real true crime.

Criminal. I'm not. I'm not. Every camera, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. that's a real true crime criminal I'm not I'm not every camera I'm not I'm not I'm not but um

I've been yeah I've been pooped on by a flying rat a pigeon and I'm not gonna lie I actually took my wig off there and then

that's good luck though no it's not because if you get pooed on by a bird no it's not that's a violation yeah but it's

it is supposed to be good luck what good luck what are the chances out of everywhere that bird could have flown over london the poo landed on your wig um the chance where now my wigs are the same because no that is criminal that's yeah that and it's not good luck so y'all start with the conspiracies and the fake true crimes

of such crimes that are not crimes please and thank you yep yeah peace out thanks for joining us today if you enjoyed this episode

make sure you guys like comment and subscribe and also if you have any stories any spill the teas or any topics you guys want us to speak about please do send them to t at four at jungle creations.com and inmate number 0078119 how did you find the show today it was great it was really good it was really good yeah true crime id yeah he does and hopefully he won't be committing any more

crimes on this seat when he comes back if he comes and hopefully he won't be committing any more crimes on this seat when he comes back if he comes back christy won't be having any nightmares thank you for watching guys you