Tea at Four - Ep 40: Talking To A Psychic, Seeing Naked Demons and Do Ghosts Watch Us Have Sex?

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

In this spooky season special, Lauren and Ellie talk to Psychic Leah, a Psychic Medium, who spills all the tea on what it's really like to see and hear the dead. We cover everything from paranormal investigations, having spirit guides and how everyone is born with psychic abilities. Our very own Lauren and Ellie even experience their first Psychic Medium reading!

I've actually spoken to many mediums about it and they told me that was the closest I got to demonic. What? I've lived seven lives. Really? You know, for instance, your nan's here. Welcome back to T4. For today's episode, we are joined by the wonderful Psychic Leah. Thank you. Leah, please introduce yourself and let us know what you do.

What is the gift? Oh, goodness. So I'm Psychic Leah and I'm a psychic medium and I talk to the dead. Gosh, things I can't do. Not on my Tinder bio. Amazing. Yeah, so for today's episode, we are going to be deep diving into the profession and learning what it's like to live with this gift.

We're ready. Are you sure? I'm gassed, I'm excited. Okay, so let's go back to the beginning. How and when did you discover you could talk to the dead? You could do all this stuff? Yeah, so I was 18 months old when i first had communication with the dead oh my gosh uh growing up it wasn't easy it just 18 did you say 18 months yeah 18 months old what happens now you should have had my mom sat on the podcast um so my mom and dad had me young my mom was 17 when she had me and we were moving around quite a lot. We was in a two bedroom flat, I believe it was. As you can imagine, we had people above us and people below us. And of course, being 18 months old, obviously, I'm assuming you're walking and you sort of talking at the time. i don't know much about babies no neither do i um the room my mum and dad stuck me in i used to see

a man that was in there and my mum and my dad told me that i used to be sat in the living room and i would go literally dead silent as white as a ghost looking out saying the man's there the man's there every time i was in my room i used to obviously walk out or whatever i used to do my mum and dad said all they remember was me climbing up into their bed my dad's always been like a biggish bloke um and i used to squeeze onto his fat well i was so scared yeah yeah so um turns out um because my mom ended up finding out um that the bloke actually died in my room oh yeah he was found in my room um and he used to try and tell me stories and stuff like that oh my god were you like no stick peppa pig on louder

really yeah do you remember like what like what did they look like sometimes it's like an orb sometimes it's like a physical and like what what did that look like yeah so obviously for me i see them very different like differently however that they want to come through okay um i can see them as full body apparitions but it's not like with your vision of your eye it's almost like within your third eye if that makes sense so to me it's almost like a daydream oh um so i'll see them there but when i was growing up i actually used to see that bloke visionally. Oh, he was a consistent... Yeah, it was like a consistent thing. It's almost like, obviously, where my gift is to talk to the dead,

everywhere we moved, it was so bad. I was about six years old. My mum, well, my sister was there. We had bunk beds. I was at the top. I don't know how much I can say on this through what I saw. Oh. X-rated? What were they? Well, all I'm going to say is I can say on this. Through what I saw. Oh. X-rated?

What were they? Well, all I'm going to say is naked. Oh, naked. You're right. I'll say naked. There's some worse things than that. Of course, between that time of seeing that man, obviously things went a little bit quiet.

I was obviously getting used to seeing the dead and whatever else. So it was a naked man? No, no, no. Wait for it. I was six years old and the place we moved into um we sat the bottom bottom two bedroom flat i went to bed and things were happening in this flat all the time it was things would move i would see things and whatever else i was led in bed and we had the tvs with the um videotes. And when the videotape would go off, it would fizz, wouldn't it?

Got to the time when my mum should have come in and turned the TV off. Well, next thing you know, I'm there trying to drift off to sleep. I remember looking up and it was a vision. It sounds really weird. My mum naked. And it was stood backwards and it walked in backwards and I couldn't see its face. What? TV turned off.

It done a complete 180. No. Turned the TV back on. What? Walked out and I went, mum. And it looked at me and it had a pure skeleton face. I've actually spoken to many mediums about it and they told me that was the closest I got to demonic. So it was something that was reenacting my mum yeah yeah what like in the skin of your mum to try and make you yeah so it's

literally my mum why why why what's what's they'll do anything they will do anything to scare you obviously you have been imparted with this gift what's to say like are you born with it or is it something that can be like me and ellie can deep dive into like tuning into that part of our brain or our body or our mind or our soul so everyone is born psychic to an extent because obviously psychic and being a medium is a completely different thing yeah so obviously being a psychic um that's when you can tap into that person's energy say what's happened in the past present or future. Being a medium is when you just tap in, well, I say tap in, it comes when it wants to come,

into the spirit world. So that's when you're connecting to people's loved ones. But it's not something that everyone can open up. You're born here with it. You're supposed to be here to work with it. So everyone else in your family had the gift? I'm a fifth generation medium really yeah so my great nan's psychic wow and then it comes on from her nan as well yeah i always wonder this

as well like when when you're seeing like ghosts in the robot spirits yeah when you see spirits is it like super old and like ancestors or is it like a modern day person that maybe just died last week or last month is it like is there an age so no not really i mean like obviously where i'm so used to it i don't really talk about it anymore to people like i've been sat on the train for mum and i was when we was at the train station i could see a boy sat on top of the bridge but i knew he wasn't there was Was he dressed in like Victorian clothing or How do you know he's not actually there?

Because it's almost like you know when I said to you about the visions I know it's a vision of it and it's almost like a silhouette of someone sat there. Did I like glow? No. That's what it's like in my brain. That's the thing when it's depicted on

tv it's like maybe they're in black and white or like maybe just like a hue maybe then yeah it's hard for spirit to come through anyway yeah so when they've got the energy to manifest it depends on how they come through some people see him as light some people see him as silhouette some people see him as full body so this is what I have to ask you. It's obviously a classic thing that people say like white butterflies. Yeah. Like someone's been reincarnated. Is that a completely different vibe to the whole spirit thing? That's a soul and this is like them reincarnating.

So it's almost like messages from your loved ones. Yeah. Because obviously you get the butterflies and then you get the robins and angel numbers are a big thing that people are now starting to realize um so yeah there's loads of them that's obviously your loved ones can interpret angel numbers are like if you was to see one one one one or if you constantly without realizing you look at the clock and it'll be two two two two it's if you're seeing that reoccurring it's a message from your loved ones different yeah okay off the top of my head i don't know it's like four four four my friend's

got that as a necklace because it's something like so like seven seven seven could mean opening like you've got the support from your spirits is like opening new opportunities and things like that isn't that's not the right one but yeah yeah okay so obviously is this your full-time job yeah yeah it is now yeah and so you're meeting with clients day to day is it like when you wake up the messages are already starting to come through is it only when you're sitting in front of a person you're getting those questions like what do you actually do with the clients first of all so obviously i read for people all over the world and it's hard for a lot of people that don't understand because they believe that you've got to be in front of that person yeah um i do over video call i can do it over

message i can do it over a phone call yeah yeah because and what is that you you summon the person or is it literally just speaking to someone and connecting with them yeah just literally i can be sat in front um like now obviously i'm connecting i know your nan's not here and she's on the other side um who's trying to come through um so that's what i mean i could be on the phone to you and do a video call yeah and that person will come through i i wouldn't sit there and go hang on let me just call in someone's dad this is the thing i was that pete

no he's not he's not available so what's they come to you so they you can connect with their loved ones yeah oh i see okay have you ever like had to filter a message that comes through? Because I feel like when I watch these kind of things on TV when I see psychics, it's all pretty positive. It's like something that's looking out for them or saying it's okay, thank you for letting me go. But it's the only one that comes through and it's like

you bitch for turning off that ventilator. Yeah. My poor mum. Turning off that ventilator. Well, you never know. I never want want to die so if my family was sitting there going yeah turn off the do not resuscitation yeah crack it i i would be furious i'd rise out that body going well let's put it this way i've connected to i've helped with missing people yeah um murders uh what's going on with pedophiles and stuff like that yeah yeah in real cases real

cases yeah i always wanted this like like madeline mccann's parents have said no to psychics because they're christian right but surely if you i mean this is completely different podcast conspiracy theories surely if you were that keen on finding your child you'd go through any other things but so there are some people out there that would utilize you in this kind of so i've been asked by someone who works in a police force as far as i go to work alongside with them um i know the woman that solved the sarah pain case my gosh yeah um but psychics well psychic medians are never if you was to work with the police they won't put it on media because what we do is meant to be bad it's not right because if you look at it in the bible we're ones that work with the devil apparently when we work fully against i can tell you well growing up having that idea that kind of

i mean it's not necessarily normal to sit there and have other people in the room other than the living ones yeah be communicating with them how did you deal with that did you were you really open about having that gift or was it like oh this is something for at home and i feel like oh i was quiet about it um throughout school i used to have dreams about my friend's grandparents that passed away um there was a girl in my year that had passed away um of meningitis and i tried to bring a message through to one of her boyfriends and i never said anything oh so it's it's things like that like it literally is the older i've got the worse it's got

it's 15 in a shower hearing a woman talking to me and i ran out i was gonna say i thought it was more common like within children because they're like, I don't know, imagination is more... Yeah. So with children, I'm a big believer. Now, many psychics and mediums will have different opinions on it. Every child is able to see and hear until they hit a certain age. Now, because they're, like he was talking about their imagination when you know when we get old enough where our imagination sort of starts we we have our own

mind we start growing up more realist yeah if you don't have that gift it stops and that's when that child doesn't really remember much does that make sense yeah um which many people don't have experiences as kids or perhaps don't remember um which is my argument when people say um because you know when you was talking about uh opening up is that something that we could do yeah i've seen people who have said oh as a kid i used to see this woman in my room and i used to see this and i used to see that and i'm like that does not make you a medium yeah because if you're going to deep dive into something that you're not meant to deep dive into i've seen people get cancers heart problems people pass away of trying to open it up and it's not something that and mentally some people can't take it yeah if you're so obviously i'm here

supposed to be doing it so my mental health has to be all right for it does that make sense yeah because i see a lot god and quickly just going back to that whole have you ever had to filter a message that's come through like have there been any occasions of that because you don't want to look like a bad person like i never filter a message my poor mum's been there with me because my mum comes with me to most of my readings yeah just out you know if anything happens to me and there are times i've upset a client because the person on the other side's gone i know the truth i've told people i've had couples come to me and i've known if the woman or the man's had an

affair and i'd have to mention it yeah i've caused some rows but not purposely it's what it's what the dead want to bring through yeah i mean it's going to come to light at some point you may as well well for instance my grandfather passed away in 2018 and he told me about my nan now none of my mum's family tell don't talk to me because they know that i know what's happened oh yeah literally yes oh my god that's incredible no wow and what's so so what do the messages from the spirit sound like is it like a voice is it like so it's sometimes i can hear them sometimes it's almost like a written message okay um that i can see or i just generally can lip read them yeah um but nine times out of ten it's they show me visions and i can hear them yeah and how do they see us so they just see us like they were here normally yeah yeah and so obviously you're you're kind of having clients

and things but i always wonder i believe in like guardian angels guardian angels and things like that i believe in the afterlife and i'd like to think that like for example my loved ones that passed away are around me all the time yeah i guess what i'm asking is maybe there are some times in life that i don't want my loved ones to be around me all the time so are they around me all the time so um obviously no they have to respect your privacy yeah they're not gonna be in your bedroom or in your toilet okay it's just moments where i look like i feel like i'm a big brother and i'm like oh you don't mind them being on the

toilet with me you know girls in the bathroom you know but i guess i think you look a bit weird just speaking up yeah um no that's really interesting um we were gonna ask as well like this is quite a female dominated area is it a thing that like women are more likely to have that kind of gift no i think men are very quiet about it because there are like her for instance colin fry he was a brilliant medium yeah yeah um have you had a derrick akora derrick akora legend he passed away didn't he yeah yeah well you see that there are a lot of men especially on tiktok i mean i've seen more men on there than what i do on really i see more women than i do might be your algorithm babe yeah yeah yeah yeah we wanted to

kind of cover that on tiktok because i feel like there's been a massive growth of this niche of people doing tarot card reading um do you find it harder to prove your authenticity when it's such a oversaturated environment 100 because how do you do it well when i do my readings i don't hold back that's the only way you'll be able to know who's real or not because when you're connecting to spirit i can't just say you know for instance your nan's here right does that make sense because anyone could sit here and go yeah your nan's here sure but the way that i describe the personality whether it be that names come through or anything that they've got to say whatever makes sense to you that's their way of going i'm actually here right so they can tell me stories that have happened they can tell me things that have um

you know perhaps have happened in the family that you remember yeah so it's things like that are there any times that people just don't come through like they're busy in heaven or it's hard because when you have people that have been murdered and when you've had people that have sadly taken their own life, sometimes it can take the soul just a little bit longer to come through because they do get worked on because there's a reason why these things have happened. What do you mean by worked on?

So obviously this is our shell, right? So our soul is inside. So obviously this is our shell, right? So our soul is inside. So when we leave our shell, our soul goes up and gets worked on. So it's almost like the angels will work on the emotion and everything that's happened because it's trauma. Right. So that's why it's going to sound a bit weird now.

I've lived seven lives. I've continuously come back down. Wow. And certain people, what they don't understand if they have certain anxiety so my anxiety when it kicks up my throat closes yeah i get that and that i was actually hung in a previous life oh so that's why my throat closes oh my god as in as in by someone out like a lynch yes so i was a herbal witch and i was called for it yeah so i was hung how do you know these things oh i get told i get told in the scene so that person that was you before would they come to you the shell of the body or is it all just like you're kind of tuning into those different parts of your your souls so i think

if i'm honest with you i think spirit spirit make it easier when they come through as the person that you knew them as does that make sense yeah um but when you do leave here you however many lives you've been before you meet back up with all of those souls right and i always wondered this as well because like for example when i've had like old people pass away in my life and i'd like to imagine they're not they're not in the spirit world as the age that they were really not in their best and healthiest self yeah and then i'm imagining oh it would be nice if they were like like they're 18 year old stuff do they do they come through in the age that they are oh they choose they choose oh if i die in my 80s i'm coming through at 21 because honestly i've had people come through

and they'll come through at 17 18 you don't look right you're lying to me i've had someone you know grandfather come through who died at 93 and he's come through really young and i'm going don't lie to me oh it's the men that are worse than the women classic it's that receding hairline ellie the receding hairlines yes why would you want to come through though back old um i i don't know you might be more wise to be when i think about like this age now i might be really instilling myself i might be the happiest i've ever been with like the same mentality you would at that do you or what's that sorry so if you come back as like a 21 year old do you have the same mentality that you had when you were 21 no you just obviously you're a lot wider aren't you because you've lived that life yeah it's just the shell of yourself that you

choose so yeah why would you want to come back looking older no i'm not asking that i'm asking like if like an old person died and they had ailments and they couldn't walk, would my granddad grow back legs if he wanted to be in heaven? What I'm asking. Okay. Yeah. That make sense? Yeah. Okay then.

My question is how do you respond to skeptics? Like have you ever sat in like a reading and someone's gone, that's not right. How do you go about that? So, skeptics, I love them. Absolutely love skeptics. Really? Yeah, I've had lots. Trust me.

When I wanted to start my business, obviously my dad knew I could see and hear the dead. And he was like, hmm, you want to start a business? I've got two men for you. Right. So, obviously my dad has a lot of friends. And he brought me two of the biggest skeptic um men didn't believe in it load of crap yeah sat there with them and you find it's more men than women that are skeptic but i can sense when someone's a skeptic and when

someone doesn't want me to bring out the truth oh yeah so yeah the tea it's definitely the tea um and i read both of them and i had both the first one i actually went to his place told him a certain object was somewhere in his house from his dad um and told him that obviously his dad was ill uh later on he actually passed with what i said was wrong with him and that exact object where it was hidden in the house was in the exact same place and no one knew about it oh i've never seen a man go from no i don't believe in this to complete floods of tears it's scary jesus but so those people were alive at the time yeah so you can read into people's lives like when it's going on yeah is there any like degree of aftercare when you have a reading like that and like how do you just switch someone off because i i think if one of my family members

came through they wouldn't fucking stop going you'd be lying in bed at night just one more thing how do you go okay thank you that's enough spirit and then just like go about the rest of your day honestly I have to do prayers before I come here I have to do at least two prayers when I leave here I have to make sure whatever's

sticking with me stays here what are you praying to yeah my guides okay um obviously they're my biggest protection um i did have my rosary but i left it in the car um but i've got my crystals on me all the time okay prayers are like the biggest thing of protection for me even when i do paranormal investigations and stuff talking of paranormal investigations thoughts on uh like ghost hunting ouija boards normal people maybe don't have the gift summoning these spirits that maybe they they don't even have the mental capacity to right ouija boards i don't agree with them no

you get these people that i say trained but they know what they're doing does that make sense what they'll do is with the ouija board they have the little planchette and they'll circle it start talking now it's the same ouija boards are exactly the same as tarot cards right you don't know what you're talking to right so you've got imagine you're doing this you've opened a portal yeah things are coming through onto that board to tell you certain things you don't close that down properly. You're going to have things follow you home. Oh my God.

Oh. Yeah. People don't realize the severity of it. Yeah. So when people there, especially on TikTok, it's the worst for it with these paranormal investigations. Really? They're there doing this. Where's your prayers?

Where's your protection? You've literally opened something up that you don't know who you're talking to yeah half of these places that they go to which i do want to state not everywhere you go is negative and people that go to like the exodus house or the conjuring house and things like that that demonic thing that was there isn't there no more so people are going there thinking oh this is intense this is where a possession happened this is where this happened you're not going to be calling that back oh interesting and another thing in that i watched

um a clip on google box of some ghost hunters and a spirit punched a man oh yeah i saw that fully like is it possible for them like because you know the whole thing of like when you feel a breeze on the back of your neck it's like an angel kissing are these can you actually be physically touched by yeah spirits my partner's been scratched really oh yeah we went to a couple of locations and he's a demolition man so he went to a bunker um and i said to him there was i just kept saying to him make sure you pray just make sure that you look after yourself and i kept shoving in crystals in his pocket without realizing right because he's got those pockets right and the one day i forgot to put the crystal in oh my god i don't know if

it's a coincidence i've got the picture actually um he went to work he was working on this bunker they were taking the bunker down i said they don't like you taking that down that's what we're contracted to do that's what i'm paid for i said well you need to protect yourself you come back home he had an a imprinted in his back now his name's aaron oh yeah well that could have been a lot worse well like in a scratch in a scratch a where was it on his back yeah on his back that's insane i said just do me a favor just try and reach to that spot he's there right that's hilarious he's like that i can't reach it i said no you've got a pure i've got the picture so say on his back wow that's mad that's crazy um i think the last thing i want to uh round up with is the idea of dreams because although i don't feel like I maybe have the gift or can speak to the dead

I think I've had a few occasions where maybe like someone that's passed has come to me in a dream and I've had a conversation with them and felt that comfort and I'm I guess I'm just asking like is that my subconscious looking for comfort or was that like an actual message from so loved ones can manipulate to talk to you in your dreams because that's when you're at your resting point i suppose your energy it's neutral it's open isn't it yeah so they can come in and manipulate your dreams or come in and come in themselves um so last night i had a dream about a woman talking to me and she said you're gonna you're gonna go to that thing tomorrow and you're gonna talk to me all right now i know it's your nan so that's their way of like talking to you but it's nice it is really nice it's comforting

yeah it is and they'll show you some people go leah i've had the weirdest dream i saw this animal i saw this i saw that and that I saw this. I saw that. And that happened. If you separate all of that, that's separate messages. Yeah. Which is clever. It is clever. Clever, clever.

Wow. Well, I guess what the natural thing we'd ask you, so Leah, would you be able to give, I mean, any of us a reading? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. When you mentioned, yeah, you mentioned my nan. Yeah, she's a very strong individual, your nan.

Oh, I don't actually know either of your nans that well, so. It's funny, because it's not just the one. You've got loads, you've got a bloke that's stood with you as well. Oh. Oh, I've got goosebumps. But it's funny, because I'm more connected with your mum's side of the family. Okay. I don't know what it is with your mum's side of the family. Okay.

I don't know what it is with all the women. Fair, yeah. You know, like some families, some families have more women than men. Yeah. Your side, even your mum's side, it's just pure women. I've got a lot of women to be fair on my mum's side, yeah. So you've got obviously a grandmother on your mum's side of the family that isn't here anymore yeah all i'm gonna say is absolutely to the t the way she does herself you know like some nans when they get ill right they don't really care what they're wearing yeah your nans like this

oh she's very like yes i'm ill but i can still look after myself yeah does that make sense like if she can still walk she's gonna walk yeah and what she didn't like was how how do i put it how things have gone so quickly because where she's always been so independent and always had to do things for others, for other people to look after her, that was a hard pill to swallow. Now there are two initials that I get, which can be for the living or past. A and S. Okay. If that makes sense to you.

A is my mum's maiden name. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. that makes sense yeah um but i will say your nan doesn't take anyone's crap and i can see where that comes from in your mom's side of the family where you get it from okay interesting but her guidance for you i don't know what it is about the air as well because the it's almost like all put together but it's yeah it's stunning honestly she keeps herself well you know like when they put the fresh rollers in

and then they take them out and then that perfect yeah that's her um she um has guidance for you oh okay well and she said because for some reason she says you and your mum are really close and she says um she knows that you worry over your mom sometimes because your mom doesn't like to open up and say many things to you that's very true yeah and she says that your mom's got to stop worrying about our elf because there's stop worrying about her health yeah because she's worrying about too much because if i show you like different she shows me too many different parts right because she's like this is going wrong that she's worrying about that she keeps trying to withdraw bloods from your mom and says just go get them checked but it won't be as bad as what

she thinks okay um and i don't know why she keeps talking about your mum getting her hair shorter and shorter and shorter you know when like i don't know if it's just a natural thing but you know when women get older and they end up cutting their hair yeah i won't be doing that um is your mom blonde as well yeah she's blonde because i keep getting like you know like the little highlights you know i don't know how to put it you know when you're blonde then you have like little blonder streaks that's the best way i can put it she keeps saying to your mom stop tell her to stop cutting her hair and the older she's getting the more she's looking i keep saying that's where i stop cutting hair she's like i'm just going to put a little bit oh sure but i like it when it's longer

but she does a guidance for you she says when it comes to um because she keeps highlighting love love is a massive thing and she's she grabs you around slaps it oh she says she's got this thing on you and it's called a weirdo magnet fucking hell yeah she's not wrong yeah and you seem to attract all of these people that your energy ain't serving i'm sorry it's not yeah yeah to be fair she's correct but she knows what you like she says she's so le Leah she's so easy to read Oh I'm not so easy to read You just know your next steps

But With you she just says She just wants you to be careful with who you meet I don't know what it is But she keeps giving me the letter J J? So if you meet someone new To be fair I always try and avoid j's

anyway yeah nothing good comes from a j i want to i want to say sorry i want to say it's more the name jamie is the name i keep getting so if you have someone that comes to you and his name's jamie i'm off okay noted did any of that resonate yeah i think a lot i mean i don't know my nan very well she died when i was very young so but she's very protective of you lot and your mum's got the sister yeah she's got two sisters because i don't know who the middle one is then because she says the the one after your mum i'm assuming yeah my mum's the older sister right so the middle sister. Yeah.

She's concerned about at the moment. Oh, she's always concerned about both. My mum looks after both the sisters. Yeah. And where does the letter C come from? C, Carol. My mum's name's Carol. Wow.

Wow. So she looks after your mum more on the side of... The best way she puts it, and I'm not filtering anything because I don't filter what spirits say, your mum's like an emotional punch bag. And she feels sorry for your mum. I kind of get that, yeah. I'm laughing because...

But just try... She says she knows it's hard for you but just try and keep yourself behind the scenes and just make sure that you know your mum knows that you're there you're all right she'll be fine your mum tell her stop worrying about health okay interesting wow oh let her know that but yeah yeah interesting would you be able to give me a reading what do you want to know that's the question you've got a bloke around you that's interesting because i thought i would have the the woman the woman energy mostly see i can read people and they'll come for one person yeah but then you can have other people that come in um from it's funny because your dad's side they're a bit more really

what are they saying let me sit you in the air yeah i know i wish i could so there's the best way i can put it is with your side you've got your mum's side here yeah your dad's side there they put a brick wall straight in the middle yeah so they're not whether that be your mum's side's fussy and they don't want your dad's side intervening coming in and talking right on their side of things but your dad's side there's a little bit more to know so sorry i'm probably the worst person i'm gonna so there's a bloke on your dad's side of the family right which i believe to be a fatherly figure for your dad i don't mean this in a nasty way but he comes through with a bit of a

resting bitch face um he's sort of like he's very hesitant what he's going to tell me but he's got the problem with your father all i know is that he keeps going he hasn't done as he's told he hasn't done as he's told and my dad yeah your dad hasn't done as he's told okay um i don't know how you can make sense of this i keep seeing a row of houses i don't know what you can make sense of this i keep seeing a row of houses i don't know what this means it could be work it could be what your dad done i can see your dad going in and out of different houses right yeah we'll move on from that one right

this bloke in spirit the fatherly figure to your dad yeah he's not happy with him he's seen everything there's a thing about um his chest as well where i don't oh no he's telling me he goes no leah it's something that is hereditary in the family and there's a problem to do with when you got the top of the lungs before they cut off, that little bit there, there's a problem there. So, you know, like... Is it a trachea? I think so, yeah. And then, if he shows me again, into the left lung. Sorry, my left and right are bad.

Right at the bottom. So, it'll be... Because he keeps saying that COPD runs in your dad's side of the family and that there's particular lung problems that go on. But he says that your dad's not helping himself with his health anyway so whatever your dad's doing all i keep seeing is this so i don't know if your dad smokes quite a lot right but he's doing this and he says he's gonna have problems here again um that's really nasty um he says oh honestly this man you don't care i don't know what it is with your dad's side of

the family but he's he's upset big time um don't feel you've never had a reading done before for him to come through never no no that's why he's come through then he wants you to know it's nothing against you lot or your mum he knows what is what um your dad's done yeah he's upset big time he reckons he shouldn't have died at the age he died at it was young um in his eyes obviously like i say my granddad died at 64 that's young for me um he keeps giving me the letter b um in relation with your dad's side of the family is there another brother uh his brother the granddad's brother i'm not actually sure i wasn't that close with him i think i only met him once

it's all right just take these initials with you because you might find out um he says lear it's a split name so it would have been someone that would have been called william but it's been split down to bill right or billy whatever they want to call his name's billy um yeah he just keeps saying to me just tell her not to worry we know what he's done and his karma will come around the corner oh god but all i can see is that there's three kids and then i can see your dad doing things that you shouldn't be doing with the three kids still young so i'm wondering if my dad's one of three three brothers okay and then he's got two kids which is me and my brother yeah unless there's a third one in that third house listen i ain't bringing no family dramas in here. Sign, sign, sign, sign. Because obviously where...

Your granddad's not happy. Right. He's going to come out and say, look, this is what I've seen. Tell her this, tell her that. But there is more to your dad. But it depends on how much more you want to know. Wow, this is really interesting.

What I can't understand is the houses your dad's going in and out of neither he's got a new job was like a milkman no no no do you know what he is he no he is a uh electric he's a heating engineer so that could be it could be it so he is going around to numerous houses hopefully just doing the uh the heating but the way that your your grandfather puts you it's like a little lost puppy still not quite aware of what we're doing yet so when it comes to like career it's like yeah i'm enjoying this but then he's going leo give her a year and she'll be confused again oh okay but i don't know what it is with you two you're very very similar with the worrying yeah oh you're more of a silent warrior that's where your fact your family get all the silent warriors but yours is like you can feel the energy radiating yeah yeah

and that's when you know yeah i'm vulnerable i think yeah that's really interesting so how do you know who was who like how did you differentiate lauren so the different energies yours is more hectic it's more like this yeah but with yours it's like nope rather not tell you my problem um but yeah that's how i'm thinking it and is it to say that like that time maybe that maybe that was my granddad coming through if i was to come see you again would someone else come through because some people can get addicted to these kind of readings right yeah i always say to people if you're gonna have a reading done with me on a one-to-one basis you find out as for much and then you come back and then you find out more because different people come in yeah i read for a girl every month um she often brings her nan and the first time she brought her

nan um she's alive by the way when she comes you get about 10 people that come through and it's like it's insane i'm like oh yeah i've got bobby i've got this and that and that and she's like oh my god i'm so excited like what's my husband doing she'll go off and i'll be talking to the the main client again and i'll just give her updates about what's going on in life so people do get addicted to it but i always say leave it every so often but yeah you can come back to me and someone from your mum's side could come through yeah okay cool i definitely will i think this i'm obsessed with this conversation it's been incredible yeah it's been a very

interesting conversation everyone needs to get at least a little bit more in touch with like yeah the spirit and energy that is around us because i feel like that fit was into my day today and you're always going to go back and ask family questions afterwards anyway so then you get to know your family more like so no no harm maybe some harm if yeah if I don't know depends what your past loved ones have been doing that you don't know about but

yeah they don't bother you when you leave this room you're fine brilliant my nan can bake so apparently ghost cakes that concludes our today's episode of t at four thank you so much for joining us leah thanks so much for joining us on this week's episode of t at four if you want to follow leah

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