Tea at Four - Ep 56: Women hate on me because of my BBL: Life after plastic surgery

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

We talk to Shannon Davies about how she deals with hate, both online and offline, since getting a BBL. The surgeons botched her first surgery, and she's been getting plastic surgery ever since. In this clip from episode 54, we highlight the difficulty of dealing with criticism from tabloids and the women around her.

what would you say is like your most engaged post and why when i'm showing the claws on the bum definitely because they love to hate isn't it so if they can see the bbl yeah then they can comment you know ew yuck stupid little thing so they're always the most engaging just because is that coming from men or women both wow yeah and the women are the ones that will show their face too when they're here so the men have always got like a cat or something on their profile picture yeah or it's not proper picture at all yeah but the women they're ballsy when they when they leave a hate comment they still got their face on they don't care i can find their linkedin yeah that's all i need find the husband i find it um not weird but i find

it strange that it's females that hate because i do feel like um maybe it's not maybe it's not hate but it's one of them oh i wish i could get a bb or i wish i was in your position type of thing but then i feel like especially in society females instead of like talking and be like oh my god you know showing concern it's like it comes out in a hateful spiteful way yeah but maybe them internally they want it done or they they wish i wish i was my machine i wish so it's it's interesting that it's hate and it's not like support from like females people see better yeah i know literally it's funny because like a lot of the hate is from women i don't i don't really get too many from men yeah women and on a night

out i get women staring at me and then if we get a bit drunk and they come over and they ask me is my bum real and stuff and then like i tell them and i show them some of the photos when it gone wrong and then they kind of like me because they can see it's gone wrong oh so it's quite twisted isn't it yeah you can see they're very standoffish to me at the start but when they see pictures that it's gone wrong and it doesn't look the same as it does in clothes yeah a bit like oh i'm lucky is that a bit of a superiority complex why do you feel the need to show when it went wrong do you not feel because i feel that i kind of feel the intensity coming off them that i know that they don't like me straight away just because of what my body looks like in clothes so i feel like i've

got to justify myself so i'm just like oh but it doesn't look like this you know it's gone wrong yeah so then because i i just i don't know i feel like i'm being judged so i'd rather them judge me for going wrong than judging me thinking that i'm stuck up because i've had surgery because that's what i get a lot of and i don't like that because i'm not so it's i'd rather them know that it's gone wrong yeah it's weird i don't know that's so interesting yeah and i guess so you kind of document your own journey on your own social media but you've mentioned that also tabloids have yeah uh written about your surgery how have you dealt with the comments from that where a lot of people in those comment sections are brutal

yeah they were horrible and they even the writers can twist your story a bit so yeah so the the preface was they contacted me they see my tiktoks and they wanted to share the videos originally about just what i filmed on tiktok and then when i got speaking to them and they heard how many times i had gone they were like oh okay um can you tell us a bit more so we can gather up a story about them just making it about a story of bbl's gone wrong in turkey so the storyline changed a bit and she asked me to send them a timeline of photos like 20 different stori amdano, yn gwneud hynny o ran stori o BBL sydd wedi mynd amgylch yn Tyrcia. Felly, fe wnaeth y stori llallu ychydig ac fe ofynodd i mi gysylltu â nhw ffotograff o 20 o ffotograffau gwahanol y gallant ddewis o. Felly, dyna beth oeddwn wedi'i wneud. Ond rhai o'r ffotograffau a wnes i'u gysylltu, doeddwn i ddim eisiau eu dangos oherwydd yn amlwg, rhan o'r gorffennol oedd nad oedd yn gallu ei fwydo o unrhyw ffordd.

Ac oherwydd roeddwn i'n ganddi, roeddwn i'n teimlo'n rhyfeddol. Felly, fe wnes i ddweud pa ffotograffau oedd yn iawn i mi eu gweld i said which pictures i was okay with them seeing just to kind of back up my story which is why i sent so many um so i sent which ones i was okay with which ones i weren't they ended up using the ones i weren't okay with anyway um the bit that they gave me to proofread was in the whole article anyway so i proofread some obviously so they've got me saying yeah it's okay but it wasn't the whole story the headline was also different um rydw i wedi gweld rhai yn amlwg felly mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud ie mae'n iawn ond nid oedd y stori cyfan. Roedd y llyfrau hefyd yn wahanol ac yn amlwg rwy'n meddwl y byddaf wedi'i ddweud i chi o'r blaen am y sylwadau arni. Roedd yn brwtol iawn oherwydd roeddwn i'n ganddi yn ffyn o amser. Roeddwn i a mi a mi yn ffyn o amser yn ffyn, roeddent yn brwtol yn dweud eu bod eisiau mynd i fyny i'n byw, yn dweud

am y plastiwch yn llwyddo i mi. O! Gwnawch chi. Dyna'r un rwy'n cael llawer o'r hynny. Dyna'r hyn mae pawb yn dweud i mi. Ond mae'n ddwfn oherwydd nid yw llawer o plastiwch yn ffat. Mae'n ffat yn gysylltiedig. come on that's that's the one i get the lot of that's what everyone always says to me but it's stupid because it's not much plastic it's fat it's recycled fat yeah so it's a stupid comment anyway which is why i can laugh at it now but i was pregnant at the time so it really hurt me um and they were just saying that like they feel sorry for my unborn child because like he's i'm gonna be the one giving birth to him um and you know the journalist said that she they take well care of ones that are pregnant they try to make sure that you know they are not vulnerable but i didn't once get reached out to they didn't once reach out to me and say are you okay even if they did leave the comments up just

asking if i was okay they knew i was pregnant i didn't have any of that they didn't remove any of the comments they're still there now so they there is no um there's no k at all they they use you to print the story and that's that that's it but like your family and friends as well and you say you've got a a child do you worry about them seeing the stuff online do they feel like they need to stick up for you um my parents and my sisters won't look at it i'm a brother yeah they they literally pretend like i'm not even in anything right okay so they they um they don't like speaking about it at all because they my parents and my siblings don't agree with my choices at all um so it doesn't get mentioned my body doesn't get mentioned my students don't get mentioned

and my parents actually only know i've been over twice so they don't know all the rest i've been over anyway so so you just say you're going on holiday yeah right yeah okay um i think they know because obviously they've seen the change but they they they like to live in in the dark they don't like to to know anything about me yeah yeah stay with my sister my sister's embarrassed so um oh my sister's getting married next week and i've been asked to wear a bridesmaid's dress and she said not to wear anything tight oh yeah so like when we go out together it's always don't wear leggings don't wear this because she's embarrassed to be seen with me because she knows that we'll get honks or we'll get people staring god we'll get the comments so yeah if i'm out with

my sisters i'm not allowed to wear anything that reveals my body shape in any way do you not go what if i want to what yeah but then i'll just get a silent treatment while someone with them supports right yeah yeah yeah and because i'm the youngest i always lose so yeah yeah i just i i got to take a big jacket all for me you know yeah yeah but for the 56 000 pounds you spent on the surgery would you not just want to show it off yeah exactly that's what I think yeah you should want to but yeah I'm like no I've I've got people that I can do in front of and people that I can't and then people that I can't yeah can I ask so you say you're not done with it what is there anything else you'd like to get done

right okay so i need a thigh lift i need an arm lift a back lift i need my bum cut and lifted and i need a tummy tuck and i need my boobs to be done right let's circle back what's a thigh lift the inner skin the inner skin on the inside of the thigh oh i want that i didn't i i would go for that yeah man just yeah just tuck it in yeah exactly mine just like slap each other when i'm walking i'm just like the chafing oh i hate a chafe talc's my best friend oh my god i hate a chafe okay yeah so what and what were the other ones um arm lift. Arm lift. And then another tummy tuck and a bum lift. So I don't want any more fat putting in the bum. It's gone saggy now. It's big, brisk, saggy.

There's no fat left in there. I just want to cut and then lift it up and I'll be happy. I want it back small. I don't care about it anymore. Yeah. Yeah, so trends have been a big thing. We've seen the Kardashians go from the big bum down to the small bum yeah um is that something you're going to be taking taking into account probably probably um i just want to be honest with me the reason why i want it all gone is because of what

i've been through now otherwise if i hadn't i probably still want it a bit bigger um but yeah no i i just want it gone now because of what i've been through i'm just done with with the look of dwi'n dal i eisiau pethau fwy. Ond dwi'n hoffi bod yn ffynhau oherwydd yr hyn rydw i wedi'i mynd trwy. Dwi wedi gwneud hynny gyda'r lles hon. Ond dwi'n debyg, dwi'n gallu gwneud i'r trenau fynd yn ôl i un a ffynhau fawr eto. Dwi'n debyg y byddaf yn ffantasiadu am ei fod yn ei hoffi ond dwi'n gallu nawr. Dwi wedi gweithio'n rhywbeth i gael y pethau yn ffynhau. Ond ie, mae'n anodd i'w nodi'n ffordd yn eich llyfrau. Yn siŵr. Mae'n gwestiwn mawr ond os allech chi fynd yn ôl i'ch hun 21 oed knock that off in your head anyway sure uh i mean this is a big question but if if you could go back to your 21 year old self that went and sent the full body pic on the whatsapp would you go back

and not do the surgeries or i'd go back i would just say maybe lose weight first i mean that's i should never have been allowed all those surgeries at the way i was i mean i'm gonna tell me to get 16 stone come on that's ridiculous nobody should ever have approved that i shouldn't have even thought that so i would just say lose the weight first start off on boobs have one thing done and then if you still desire to have something you've just found out about today yeah yeah do some research about it there's so many groups on facebook and instagram yeah there's so many youtube videos as well people going and having it done just have a facebook a'r instagram mae cymaint o fideos youtube hefyd mae pobl yn mynd ac yn cael ei wneud dim ond i gael peth yn gyntaf gadael y gwaith gael un peth wedi'i wneud os ydych chi'n dal yn hapus yna gallwch fynd peidio â'i ddod i mewn oherwydd pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i mewn mae pethau'n mynd yn anghywir edrych ar fi

a sut a sut rydych chi'n ymddiriedol i chi sy'n ymddiriedol ac mae'n ddim yn ymddiriedol i'n ffwrdd yn gyffredinol dwi'n sori ond dim ond nid ydych chi'n gallu edrych, fe wnes i ac yn edrych beth a ddigwyddodd i mi rwy'n gwybod bod rhai ohonynt yn mynd i leiaf ond nid ydych chi'n ymddiriedu iddyn nhw fel y dywedais mae grwpiau y gallwch edrych arnynt mae llawer o grwpiau ar Facebook a'r Instagram yr un peth y mae'n rhaid i chi ei wneud yw teisio ar XX Doll ac yna enw'r surgeon ar Instagram ac fe fyddwch chi'n gweld eu llyfrau sydd wedi mynd os ydych chi'n mynd ar Facebook os ydych chi'n teisio ar enw'r meddyg maent yn cael llawer o gymunedau ie siarad gyda phobl bywyd wir yn gyntaf, felly mae rhai ohonynt yn dweud bod pethau wedi mynd yn anghywir if you type in the doctor's name they had loads of communities yeah just speak to real life people first yeah some of them will say things have gone wrong but they might say it's because of their health that they didn't declare or something like that um and you'll speak to other girls that a lot

of did go right so try to speak to as many people as you can because you might find somebody that has like a similar body shape to you similar health conditions to you yeah and then you'll be able to see how that doctor kind of tailored their treatment to them if they had a certain ac yna byddwch chi'n gallu gweld sut y mae'r doctor wedi'i ddysgu'n eu trafod i'w ddysgu. Os oedd ganddyn nhw amgylch go iawn o iechyd, sut oedd y doctor wedi'i gyflawni? Os oedd ganddyn nhw'n gysgu'r un ffordd o'u bod, sut oedd wedi'i ffyrddio? Felly gallwch ddefnyddio nhw fel pethau i'w ddysgu. Felly, os oeddent yn dod atoch chi, maen nhw'n fy ngyrch, maen nhw'n cael cymorth fel fi nawr, byddwn i eisiau cael rhywbeth fel y gwnaethoch chi ei roi iddyn nhw. Felly mae llawer o bethau y gallech chi ei wneud.

Peidiwch â mynd i'm sorry i feel like um i don't know if it's the last couple months or the last year or so i've seen and i kind of want to cover the the ultimate dark side of it i've seen influencers dying from and this is even influencers not just a normal person just dying from like a bbl especially how do you go into these surgeries knowing that's the biggest risk of it all yeah that's never on my mind if i'm honest with you yeah the biggest thing that scares me is the anesthetic um i think because obviously they say that like they don't go under the muscle now with the bbl so it's a lot like safer then you think like oh well it's very low chance then so then for me the anesthetic ddim yn mynd o dan y gwaelod nawr gyda'r BBL felly mae'n llawer yn siŵr. Yna rydych chi'n meddwl fel oh wel mae'n gyfle iawn yna felly i mi mae'r anaesthetig yn fy ngwneud mwy ond um ie rydych chi'n gweld

llawer o bobl yn marw ond ar yr un pryd dydyn nhw ddim yn gwybod pa gynhwysedd iechyd oedd ganddyn nhw cyn i ac os oedd ganddyn nhw unrhyw beth yn ymddygiad ac nid oeddent hyd yn oed yn gwybod o'r hefyd felly mae'n rhaid i ni i ddweud yn gyflym bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni ddweud bod yn rhaid i ni d it's we're all quick to say like oh it's just because it was done in turkey but sometimes it might just be because of whatever health condition they were in anyway so you can't take it too literal about oh is it going to happen to me because it happens to them or you know because it's just a luck of the draw i guess with anything even over here though yeah even with routine surgery isn't it so you've got to try not to think about it yeah it's hard yeah i guess other than death do you know any other um shocking botched surgery stories or people you know that have had yeah even in the uk though right yeah her her nipple also went necrotic really bad um and she's actually having surgery in a couple days um but she's going to turkey to get it fixed right because

she had it done off here originally so it's quite funny isn't it? She did it here? Yeah she got botched here yeah but she's going to Turkey to get it fixed yeah so you can't catch a break so it's not even just Turkey then even here. And the handle did really bad up here as well she cut sepsis and everything yeah yeah really bad she paid like 16 grand for those boobs yeah have you seen actually interestingly over the time you've been getting surgeries has the cost gone down like we were we were we had a episode around aging and about how um fillers like they've kind of been going down in their prices to match the cost of living crisis um have you seen that in surgeries as well yeah absolutely

yeah because like now you can get a bbl tummy tuck and boobs for full so it's gone down by two grand in a way like when i had tummy um a gastric sleeve i paid 2000 um but the previous price i think when my friend went because i went to a company my friend went to yeah um two years prior they were 3800 so it's 1800 off so that's almost two people to go isn't it it's like half price so yeah because so many people are going like teeth they have gone down massively in price like when I was first quoted 6,000 I ended up paying 3,800 for my teeth so again it was almost half price but with fillers and stuff obviously that's what I do as a job and in my shop I've i've noticed

we have had to put the prices down as well because the cost of living yeah it's so cheap oh my god so can you do it on yourself yeah i do my botox and fillers all the time yeah wow what's your background do you are you a nurse i'm a non-medic i've been doing it for 10 well i've been doing microblading for 10 years okay um and i've been doing lips and botox for four wow yeah yeah i mean that if anything enables you it's having the needles in the back yeah well actually dissolved my lips a few days ago so they're not too bad so i had some migration going on but yeah they were a bit minging but yeah no it's hard especially like that's the thing as well is it being in the surgery world and being in the booty world you get a lot of clients that are going over and having stuff done even your older clients having their teeth done or having a gastric sleeve you're constantly about it like

i've got about at least 20 clients i've had a gastric sleeve got at least 15 that have had their teeth done yeah whether they're old or young because like they just the way they're going into booty places and they probably see someone like me with teeth done then they'll want their teeth done yeah but do you constantly around it yeah i mean uh there was that viral clip of you know molly may when people said that she had too many fillers as someone that does those injections in people do you feel you have the autonomy to go i'm not going to do that yes so i get a lot of 18 year olds coming in and i won't let them have it done i know they're old enough yeah you've got to because you don't have their mum throwing you up saying why do you reject my Felly rwy'n cael llawer o ddoddau 18 oed yn dod i mewn ac rwy'n gwneud hynny. Rwy'n gwybod eu bod yn ddodd iawn. Ydych chi'n cael gofod?

Ydw, rydych chi'n rhaid. Oherwydd nid yw'r mamau yn eich cymryd i chi, yn dweud, pam rydych chi'n hynod yn hynod o ddodd? Rwy'n gwybod eu bod yn ddodd iawn ond mae'r mamau'n cael eu cymryd i mewn yn y bali. Ond ie, roeddwn i'n gweithio ar 18 ac roeddwn i'n meddwl, gyda philwrau a phethau, ac diodd i fynd i 6ml ar ôl i mi fod 19. Mae llawer o philwrau yn eich llythyr. Ie, yn union. Yn union.

Yn union. Yn union. Ond mae'n hawdd i mi gael fy nghyffyrdd i mewn i'r llawr. Ac fe wnes i fy nghyffyrdd i mewn i'r llawr oherwydd roedd fy rheolwr ar y pryd, i ddweud time i was 19 it's a lot of filler in your lips yeah exactly it's exactly a lot it's so easy to get sucked into it and i got sucked into it because my manager at the time we to work there you had to have fillers to work no way yeah if you wanted to work there you had to have it done botox and fillers at the age of 18 so it was just wrong isn't it so if i can say no to girls now we're 18 then i absolutely will yeah no i love that i feel like we need more people like you especially because you work in that industry as well it's like having that duty of care and i kind of understand like listen work from my perspective what i've been

through as well and i do feel like a lot of places where let's say kids or kids teenagers will go to these um aesthetic boutiques and stuff and they're like oh yeah just get just they're just doing it for the money whereas you're actually doing it for the due of care like wait a minute do your research do you actually need it you're literally questioning the client before they actually do something because you know if they just have it done then they're going to come back and then have more done yeah and then they're going to end up looking ridiculous before their face has even developed properly maybe they're 18 years old they still got baby faces other than they're not even 21 yet so i say to them like if you really need it if you really got small lips and have half a mil then wait until you're

21 to have more because your face is changing so much like your facial structure is still changing you know everything is so um yeah i i tend to tell them no definitely i wish somebody told me no do you see many boys coming in yeah a lot of boys these days yeah yeah because like even when you said about you you've just had your kid and you're already doing a tummy tuck we hear about mommy makeovers i'm not seeing any daddy makeovers over here so yeah i get someone that does the injectables you so you're seeing a lot of in the last two years i mean i've had the salon for five so yes the last two years i'd say there's a lot of men coming in for botox they come in with their wives their wives they're just like my husband

needs to come in and need these botox please convince him it's not my job thank you just like if you think he's wrinkly bring him in the salon like that's funny an odd phone call yeah a lot of men especially eyebrow threading oh they love eyebrow threading beard threading

they just want a snap beard threading yeah yeah wait what yeah they like to have like that really white sharp line

around their beards so they like to have either waxed or threaded it's painful I can imagine I mean I'm doing it I can feel it just snapping out their cheeks i love it oh i know i feel sorry from the same time but yeah

you can feel on your teeth you can feel the hairs coming out oh my god the price of beauty yeah that's a beauty wow yeah so i guess uh do you have any other things you'd like to talk about in the realm of surgery or like the realities that you want to bring up i would just say at least wait until you're 25 if you're gonna have any surgery if i'm honest with you again body's still developing um your mental health is still developing as well so i think wait until you're 25 at least if you're gonna have anything done and if you are maybe speak to surgeons over here just as consultations just have your health checked over here privately get a full blood count just check everything have a few consultations for 50 pound 20 pound over here and see what they say if they think you're in good health and what they

would do then go over to turkey they may just have consultations over in turkey compare the two maen nhw'n mynd i Turceg, maen nhw'n gallu cael cymhwysiadau yng Nghymru, rhannu'r ddau, ac yna gweld os gallwch chi ddod yn hapus gyda'r un. Ni fyddwn i'n dweud nad ydw i'n cael gwrthdaro, oherwydd rwy'n credu bod hynny'n hypo-gyrtychol i mi. Ond rwy'n meddwl, cadwch yn ofalus gyda'r peth, cadwch eich amser. Nid yw unrhyw un yn ymrwyso amdano. Mae pawb yn ymrwyso'n fawr yn y dyddiau hyn. Rwy'n bob amser yn ymrwyso. Mae pawb yn ymrwyso i gael rhywbeth wedi'i wneud, oherwydd maen nhw eisiau edrych yn berffaith yn fuan fel y gallant. Ond bydd y ffordd yn bod yn ymwneud gyda'i gilydd os ydych yn dilyn y ffordd, dim ond stop. in a rush everyone's in a rush to have something done so they want to look perfect as soon as they can yeah but the trend is going to be there for a while if you're following a trend just stop like if you touch the ground a bit and yeah just take your time that's all i am still intrigued about that thigh in the thai one yeah i'll be doing my research but i just love the perspective

you've coming in it's not or just not it's not heavily negative but also just the the sense of like concern thinking and actually being real with yourself yeah and i do feel like anyone that's listening if you are considering as well like let's just have that moment to kind of like stop reflect do your research that you did and just don't rush exactly so um i've taken that out of it i just i love the fact that you're just so real and honest do it and i think another thing is real people hearing from real people and not influencers because you're going to be 100 times more transparent about these things versus someone that might be being paid to say the thing they're saying thanks for watching that clip if you want to see more make sure you subscribe to four nine or search t at four on your favorite podcast app to

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