Tea at Four - Harry Potter Star Jessie Cave On Why She Joined OnlyFans
Episode Date: September 24, 2026Why did Harry Potter star Jessie Cave launch an OnlyFans? In this unfiltered episode of Tea At Four, hosts Billy and Lauren sit down with actress, writer, and comedian Jessie Cave to discuss the real ...financial realities of life after a massive film franchise.Jessie opens up about supporting her family of four, hitting a wall in her career, and how a bizarre LA acting seminar taught her to monetize her signature long hair. She breaks down the misconceptions surrounding her non-explicit, niche content, managing public scrutiny, and staying firm on her personal boundaries while navigating the platform.Billy, Lauren, and Jessie also touch on her iconic role in Pride, her approach to motherhood and social media, and how she navigates press headlines, personal loss, and creative autonomy.
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For the true fetishists, it is about texture.
What separates a high performing video?
Booms.
No, jeez.
My Google search is disgusting.
The most awful things in my life.
And the word Harry Potter is in front of them.
Forever.
Hey guys, welcome back to Tier 4.
I'm Billy.
And I'm Lauren.
And this is a podcast where we talk all things that normally stay in the group chat.
We're joined by a very exciting guest today.
We're joined by Jesse.
Thank you so much for joining us.
No, thank you.
It's such a nice studio.
Oh, thank you.
This is something we put to get that.
Our producer Bobby did that.
Thank you producer Bobby.
Now, Jesse, we, just for a bit of context,
you were a massive part of our cinematic childhoods.
You're obviously on Harry Potter,
but you're also now breaking the stigma
of using only fans as a way to support yourself and your family,
which I think is incredible,
and we're all for that and see it for.
So thank you for coming on and chatting about that today.
Thank you.
It's nice. It's really nice to have these conversations more and more now.
100%. Yeah, for sure.
You've been talking about what you're doing now for a couple of years,
but there's always the attachment to Harry Potter.
Does that get frustrating for you?
No, I'm incredibly grateful for the ticket.
I mean, it genuinely was a lucky break, but it was 20 years ago.
Yeah.
It's lovely to still have the association sometimes
because it was an incredibly fond period of my life, very exciting.
and a gift to have at 20 years old,
but there has been lots of negative things as well.
So it's one of those bittersweet references.
I wouldn't be able to earn a living on Onlyfans
if I had not been in Harry Potter.
I've been doing it 18 months now,
and I'm further and further away from it, put it that way,
which is I'm happy about,
not to say that there's anything, you know,
I'm not being nasty in any way about about that association.
Yeah. Can I also just add, you're in one of my favorite films of all-time pride.
Oh, thank you. I love that film. I'm so proud of that. You should be so proud.
Yeah, it was one of my most brilliant experiences on a film set and it was a really unusual job because I auditioned for one of the bigger parts and then I got given this smaller role, but she was there the whole time.
So actually it was the longest I've ever spent filming because it was such an ensemble cast.
So it was such a great.
development because you were with these amazing actors, like all stars.
And then these young actors who became stars.
And we just were all such a nice group.
And oh, I just learned so much.
And it was such an amazing script and such amazing directors.
And it was so powerful.
And I was so happy to have just a few lines and just to be there.
It was honestly just one of the best things ever.
That film means so much to so many people.
Like the story, the history.
it's like one of those films that I rewatch all the time.
Oh, I always rewatch it.
And that's a lost start.
Not many of these new films that are coming out, I'm going back to.
Same.
And it's one of those ones that just has, just will always,
I think it's a low, low rumbling thing.
It will just stay there forever.
And yeah, people constantly reference it to me.
Yeah, we were on the red carpet last night for Sense and Sensit Sensibility
and interviewed George Mackay.
And it's just mad, that pipeline.
I know.
Like you say, so many big stars.
Everyone is doing brilliant in their,
own right. We'd love to obviously talk about the stuff on only fans. The niche of content that
you do, could you just talk a bit about that? I am not somebody who does research. So I, and that's
part laziness and also I just don't like knowing that much stuff because my brain can't take it. So I
didn't do much research about only fans before I joined it, which means, crucially, I did not
realized the extent of the association with porn.
Okay.
Which has got me into trouble.
Before I started, I just, I was in a really bad place, emotionally and financially.
And I had four kids.
By the time I was 34, I had worked constantly for 18 years.
And I had run into just this wall of how do I keep making money as a weird one-woman show
person. Most of my life, I just, I write and I draw and I make shows and I occasionally get an
acting job, but that is not enough to support a family of sex. I just got rejected for like yet
another job and I was just completely out of loss for what I was going to do anymore. And my hair
is something that people have always commented on, which is lovely, mainly because it's just weirdly
long. I mean, it's, it's, I just don't cut it. When was the last time you cut it? So I last
cut it in the January before I started the only fans in March. Right. That's January
2025. Didn't know that'd be my last ever haircut. Famous last word. Did you think any of the
hair? I mean, obviously I'll cut it if I need to, but the longer the better, let me tell you. It's a niche
business, the hair world on only fans. Basically, I, I just, I had started doing comedy stuff on Instagram of
like having a funny caption with plaiting my hair.
And that was only out of desperation
because social media has just become such a monster.
Yeah.
And if you don't constantly create on there,
you lose out.
You lose out on opportunities.
You lose out on jobs.
You lose literal followers.
So I got into this position.
I need to sell tickets for my one-woman show.
What should I do on Instagram?
And my identity for so many years has been mother.
and I really enjoy documenting, you know, the early stages of motherhood.
I've always loved doing that.
But I draw the line at sharing my kids.
Like, I don't do that.
I really respect that.
I do share them when they're babies.
I'll say that.
But then once they have their identity, I just, you know, I stop.
And that means that you do lose out because the motherhood game on Instagram is massive.
Oh, yeah.
You can really, you know.
But there's a danger to that.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
So many influences go down that route.
And you have to question sometimes I do anyway.
Like you're almost selling your children at that point.
You are.
You are.
They didn't understand what's going on.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And I even felt weird about it from day one.
But I,
Instagram was different in 2014 when I had my first baby.
And I just, you know, I just was like, oh,
I was so used to sharing that I didn't think you don't share your baby.
You just had it.
But then as I've had more kids, I've realized,
oh, there's a cost.
I just feel weird about it.
But then I also lost out
because if I had just done motherhood content
and that's my life.
You know, I'm a full-time mom.
I would have been able to
maybe have opportunities
that other people who share their kids do,
but I just can't.
I feel too weird about it.
So the one thing I don't feel weird sharing
is my hair.
And so that's what I started doing
is I doing more funny videos
and me plaiting my hair.
And then I realized,
oh, I'm getting loads of interest
in this, I was just completely business-minded about it.
I was like, oh, I could do something with this.
Yeah.
I have no other options.
What do I have?
And when I went to LA years ago, when I was a younger actress,
I had this horrific seminar with an acting coach.
Oh my God, I still have like goose on thinking about it.
And we had to all sit in a living room of her house.
And I have, like, we weren't allowed in one room of.
I went to get like a glass of water or something and I,
and she was like, you can't go in there.
seen these documentaries before.
You had to sit on a chair in the middle of her living room and you had to sell yourself.
She said, you need to tell me what's in your shop.
Oh my God.
What do you mean?
She was like, who are you?
What do you have?
Oh, my God.
So one by one, people went up and was like, hi, I'm Harry.
I was in one episode of Coronation Street.
I was a waiter number two.
And I remember going up and sitting there and being like, hi, I'm Jesse.
I am an actress
I was in Harry Potter
and I've never forgotten that
and then as I was in this moment of like
how the hell am I going to make money
what am I going to do
I don't see any money coming in for a while
you know what am I going to do
I just thought back to her saying
what is in your shop and I was like hair
sounds like that
hair's in my shop
it sounds like that little
traumatic
it's in a way because it's in a way
Because from then on, I was like, what do I have that's different to other people?
Like, how am I going to find my way in the sea of other people doing the same job as me
who are arguably better, prettier, thinner, whatever, you know?
So the hair thing was just one of those, you know, I just suddenly was like, okay, I'll do something with this.
Yeah.
I did not realize this would, you know, be an actual thing.
Right.
Yeah.
And it has worked so far, but it's, you know, it's not going to last.
I don't know.
Sometimes, you know, if you find, if you like,
and the more you talk about it,
there might be more fans that haven't thought about.
Well, I definitely started a little bit of a craze.
Like, I definitely have people messaging me all the time
asking for advice with their hair
and seeing lots of photos of hair suddenly in my DMs.
Which is nice.
It's one of those things where, oh my God,
Only Friends are just a might,
like you really have to learn so much on it.
It's not a simple site.
Okay.
Going from someone who didn't really know what OnlyFans was,
it was at the time when Bonnie Blue
it just kind of exploded onto this.
Oh, hell.
Like, all of that, it just kind of was in the news.
Yeah.
And so it was one of those things were like,
am I, oh, God, am I doing this?
My goodness.
Me and Bonnie Blue, like, doing it.
Like, what's going on?
And so I really had to learn it all,
how to use the site and how to upload a picture or a video
and just, oh, God, it's so hard.
A lot of people don't know is it started off as like, it's like a Patreon website, right?
And that's not got like an explicit connotation to it.
No.
And the top one, I think the top 10, 1% of creators, there's only a couple that are like things
to do with sex.
So you've got like ASMR, cosplay, fandoms.
Cooking.
Cooking.
It's not completely X-rated.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Everything now ultimately is monetized.
So it's just a way of, I mean, I was also fortunate because.
As a quirky woman, also somebody who's never posted a bikini shot online,
I hide behind what I wear.
And, you know, so for me, OnlyFans, is just automatically kind of more intimate
because I'm not, my hair is down.
And I might not have glasses on.
I might not have a bandana on.
And, you know, so it's to have never really expose my collarbone on social
media to go to OnlyFans.
It's like it's it's just a way of fans seeing some more of you that they don't see on
Instagram.
So I had I had you know roads to go.
It had something that wasn't just there already online which was useful.
I think there's also there's been like such a misconception because often you'd hear see the
headlines you know with other celebrities as well like Lily Allen Kate Nash.
Star only fans and then it kind of like everyone always goes to the
explicit content.
How did you kind of,
what was that experience like for you?
Yeah, Lily Allen was in the news
as this happened too.
So that was really helpful.
She was an inspiration.
Love Lily Allen.
Love.
And Kate Nash too.
She was selling her,
she was using it to fund tour buses
for her tour because the music industry
is awful.
And in a similar way for me,
Edinburgh Festival,
which is my main goal every year's
to perform my shows at Edinburgh Festival,
cost so much money.
That's why I'm doing Onlyfans.
If you're not somebody like Lily Allen or Kate Nash, you know, most people join and you use your, you very quickly realize there's a limited time frame before you're going to have to go to the next level.
There's just no way around that.
You have to have your boundaries from day one.
And if you don't, they disappear.
Yeah.
So I was just always very firm from day one about what my line is.
And obviously the line changes as you grow, like I have, there's no way around it.
also that I have just grown in confidence in 18 months.
Like when I started, I realized, like,
I haven't really had any photos of me in years on my phone.
Like, it's just my kids or my boyfriend, you know, it's just them.
And there's something been very nice about looking at myself again in the mirror
and seeing how I look in a photo.
And so my confidence has grown,
which means that I might now be doing photos that I wouldn't have done 80 months ago,
but that doesn't mean that's ever crossed my line.
Whenever you feel forced to do something, obviously it's bad.
But I think that's a trap that lots of people fall into.
And sure enough, I've now been exposed to people who've done it
and look at their timeline and see, oh, wow, it was six months.
You had six months.
And you were naked.
You were naked within six months.
So you said you would never go naked.
You went naked in six months.
It's just one of those things that happens.
I haven't got there yet.
And I don't think I will.
but there's no shame in that too.
Maybe they want to go naked,
but at the same time, you have to have that kind of outline
at the beginning before you set out,
and I was quite careful,
even though I did really not know very much too all about Onlyfans,
I decided I would do it in the January,
and I didn't launch until March,
because I was like, I need to make sure
this is what I want to do,
that I'm prepared for the consequences
and the associations and the students,
and all of that.
I need to just make sure that I know what I'm getting myself in for.
And I need to outline what I will not do and what I am doing on here.
Okay.
And I've never, ever crossed that really.
And I'm proud of that.
And I also, I feel a huge sympathy for people who do it and just,
um, you just, you just get on that treadmill.
Yeah.
Suddenly you're like, okay, what's next?
Yeah.
But you can have a nice low rumbling way of doing it.
And I'm, I'm completely.
secure in the fact that now my because it is so niche i mean it's so so niche it's going to go up and
down and and as long as i'm still doing my i feel fulfilled creatively with my other work
it's something that i hope is there as a kind of way of earning money but i have my
low pay jobs on the side yeah i ask like as as someone i've seen a couple of your videos
so you're you're brushing your hair what kind of
separates a high performing video versus a lower performing video.
Is that not really a thing on Only fans?
Boops.
No, Jee.
On On On Ony fans, it's really different to Instagram.
Okay.
With hair itself, like it is genuinely for the true fetishists of hair.
It is about the actual texture of the hair and the way it falls and how it moves and the, you know, looking at the ends and the, you know,
volume and movement and all of that stuff,
the sensuality of it, I guess, is really important.
But then you can have a video where you're just, you know,
you can see the contours of your body a bit more
and how the hair is falling in between it.
And that's what is high performing.
It's sometimes incredibly basic.
And then sometimes it's like, oh, they do like the weird stuff.
That's great.
But on Instagram, it's very different.
I mean, I don't know how much you've gone into this before.
But like, it's again such a trap.
that creators fall into early days with only fans
because you cannot promote it
without probably getting restricted.
People don't realize this at the beginning
so they're like, hey, start an only fan!
Even the word gets flagged, right?
Yeah.
Join me on only fans!
Unless you're on Twitter, Twitter is...
Oh, no, Twitter's free for all.
Yeah.
It's almost like a free only fan.
Yeah, I haven't even got into the Twitter game yet.
But yeah, you can put the full link on there
What's going on?
I keep it very, very discreet.
And when I see people who've just started
and they just are putting it out there,
I'm like, shh,
just just do it on that, like,
just be a bit.
Yeah.
But there's no way around it.
You have to make those mistakes.
And I made those mistakes.
I was in like, only fans merch that I got sent.
And I was like,
Oh, no.
Brilliant.
That's great.
I was like, why have I suddenly just got like,
what's happened on my sense?
settings. Two people have seen this. What's going on? Oh no. Oh, wow. So you have to be so careful. And again,
there's no, there's no handbook for it. Yeah. What was the reaction like for you when you first
decided to do this? Like from the press or from fans? I just didn't realize it would get so
widespread because again, I didn't realize stuff like you don't say only fans. Yes. You don't
say I'm launching an only fans. And I, the video that I did, because I do comedy,
people thought it was a joke so it didn't get it went wide like it was it was worldwide it went on variety
dot com oh my god it went it went everywhere so people thought it was a joke people thought it was a joke
but but enough to write about it and right and then subscribe which is really handy really really handy
obviously all the subscribers left when they realized i was not doing porn and i was just doing hair um yeah
the response was crazy and I found it very bizarre because there was a lot of judgment
judgment but also kind of like more of a you go girl thing but I guess because I'm a mother
and I have four kids and I've always just been like you know earth mother vibes on Instagram
so then to do a complete you turn into she's on a porn website now for money and she's in debt
you know like that like debt is a dirty word you don't talk about my
money.
Yeah.
And I didn't actually talk about debt on, you know, I wrote on my substack an essay about
why I'm starting only fans.
And I've, since day one of OnlyFans, I've written my diary of OnlyFans on Substack.
And they lifted that directly, even though it was behind a paid wall.
And the quote went everywhere.
So I didn't realize, because I'm again, no one teaches you these things about social media.
So you don't realize until you've made a mistake.
I mean, it wasn't a mistake to admit that I'm in debt.
I'm actually quite proud now that I was open about money.
I think it's really inspiring.
Like you say, it's a dirty word and people don't like,
I think there's a shame that comes with it
when people admit to being in tech.
Especially if they think, you know,
people just assume you're in a big film
and then you're just, you're rolling in it forever.
You're not.
You're just not.
Especially if you get the job at 20 and it wasn't really, you know,
20 years later.
Yeah.
Like, what do people expect?
Like, I'm an artist.
I don't earn that much money.
Like, I'm lucky to get one acting job a year
and I do my weird shows and I write
and writing is, I would love to make all my living off writing
but very few people can,
even though my novel was a best seller.
Whatever, you know, like I've had huge success in lots of ways.
That doesn't mean I'm safe for money.
No.
You're talking about so inspiringly,
like you take an autonomy of everything.
So you're writing substack, you're obviously doing only fans,
you're taking, your sport.
your whole family with this.
Does it feel a bit frustrating when the press do take those headlines, like,
about the debt and, you know, the ex-Harrie Potter star,
when that is taken out of your hands,
does that scare you about being in this industry?
So at first, it really affected me when there would be like, you know,
tabloid things in the early days.
But massive crossroads in my life was when my brother died in 2019.
He was electrocuted on the rail.
is an accident.
He died with his best friend,
like a drunken mistake.
And, you know, in a second our lives, like, completely changed.
And so since then, like, it's just like part one and part two of my life.
Everything has just, the way I react to things is different.
So tabloid stuff.
And obviously it was in the press then, you know, it was, you know,
Harry Potter brother dies, you know, electrocuted, whatever, you know.
There's been so much crap.
You know, I was raped when I was 15 by my tennis coach.
Harry Potter actress raped by her tennis coach.
You know, there's every, everything you will, you will, my Google search is disgusting.
You know, it's traumatic to look at, you know.
I will never ever Google myself again because the first three things that come up are the most awful things in my life.
Yeah.
And the word Harry Potter is in front of them forever until I die.
So it just means that now,
I just don't give a shit.
Like if,
if they,
they say Harry Pod's actress
doing porn
and it gets me some subscribers
and the subscribers
go on to my only fans
and see I'm brushing my hair
with a tango teaser
but they pay me $6.
Yeah.
All good.
All good.
Thank you very much, Daily Mail.
Yeah.
I'll be taking that $6.
Nice.
It's actually not $6.
It's only $450, but that's fine.
That's not even a pint.
It's likely.
It's dollars.
It's probably like two.
It's,
that,
yeah,
that's a whole different stuff story.
But so it really doesn't affect me anymore.
And also because it has less power.
Like podcasts have power now,
you know,
social media has power.
Absolutely.
Those articles have to be clicked baity for them.
And so now I think,
oh,
you tried.
You tried to get that widespread,
didn't you?
They didn't really work.
You gave it a good guy.
And even if it does,
like I don't find it as embarrassing
and as like deeply and shameful
as I,
I did before because it's, I can say something,
I can do an Instagram story and be like,
oh, you see that thing, that's complete bullshit.
Yeah.
And you can believe it if you want, but that's fine.
And so yeah, it doesn't affect me as much anymore.
Obviously, I'm human, but.
Of course, yeah.
I think that's really powerful.
Me too.
Do you think you know enough about, like, finance
and have been taught enough to support yourself?
I don't think I should talk about finance.
Well, no, but I'm like, I'm terrible with money.
I've always been bad with it.
It's not like I spend very much money, but I just, I don't know how to, to, I just
always make mistakes.
Always make mistakes.
And then I thought, oh, when you have kids, you're, you know, you're suddenly become
an adult.
You don't.
You just, I'm making mistakes.
I'm buying so many Pokemon cards.
Like, it's just, I should not be buying this much stuff.
Not that my parents made a mistake by not teaching me about money.
Obviously, they did.
And it wasn't like I grew up with lots of money at all.
So it's just like, why?
It's because we weren't taught it at school.
And I think my son, who's just at secondary school,
like they have business classes in year seven now.
They are teaching kids about money.
But I think, like my generation, like I'm nearly 40,
like I think that we're all slightly clueless.
Yeah, absolutely.
Not quite ready for the change that there's so many different types of jobs now.
and younger people are just kind of a bit more savvy
about how to make money.
But I think my,
I'm just like in this weird little group
where we all just kind of like,
have just hoped for the best.
Yeah.
I think I still am.
Yeah, I think there's something really big
in the fact that we don't make enough money to save
so the idea is just make more money.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's all through side hustles
and, you know, growing on social media and things like this.
but it's never like, or if you've got money, keep it.
Somebody said to me the other day, you know, you are saving for your pension, aren't you?
And I was like, I don't have enough money to go to ASDA this week.
How would I save for a pension?
Literally.
We're going to have trouble when you're older.
And it's like, I'll just be grateful to get to 60, to be honest.
Yeah.
Like, I can't save money.
Like, there's no spare money.
Where does it go?
Where does it go?
Where does it go?
Per money.
And why can't you just use monopoly money?
What's the difference?
I know.
Why can't they just make more money?
money.
Everything's online as well nowadays.
Someone just hack the system,
had a couple more extra euros and be done with it.
Yeah, literally, when it's online stuff,
I'm like, this isn't even real money.
It's just like, do, do, dude.
Yeah.
I hate it.
Paying people is the most scary thing for me, I find,
because I'm like, but I just click that button.
What if it goes to somebody else?
Oh, yeah.
Where does it go?
How can I get it back?
It's agony.
Well, obviously we are talking about money,
so it seems like a good opportunity to talk about this.
There was a figure 15,000.
in a day.
Is that true that you've made on any fans?
I think it was true on like say day one because people,
because it went so viral that people did subscribe.
But then they left within day one.
Pop the head in.
They go in,
they go out.
So I probably did make that like in a day.
But obviously I'm not making that every day.
And there are some times where my number of subscribers
does feel more like a group therapy session
rather than like a successful business.
Oh.
So you're basically one of those little living room meetings now.
My hair seminar.
Yeah.
So sometimes it is much more intimate.
And then sometimes it's like, okay, this is fun.
There's some new people.
Yeah.
So are you talking to them as well?
Is that part of the package?
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of it is communication.
It's like people are seeing more of you.
They want to hear you and see you.
And it's built on the idea of.
this parasycial relationship.
You know, it's so important.
They feel like they know you.
And there are some fans that you get to know more.
And then there's some fans that, you know,
just come on and say, can I see your clit?
And then they leave.
You know, that's fine.
You say no, you can't.
Bye-bye.
Do you ever have to, do you kick people out or?
I have, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Of course, yeah.
It's like running a club.
Not that I've ever really been to a club.
But I imagine.
I've also never.
I've never ran a club.
It's like, you're a bouncer of a cool hair club.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
Obviously, we have spoken.
This is not a sexual thing, but the way that people respond to the content is
sexual.
Is it in a sexual way?
You would hope so.
I mean, like, I don't really know.
That's the side of things where I don't, I choose to be a bit more oblivious about it.
Like, obviously, I am hoping that they find it nice.
Yes.
I don't see, I think probably at first I was,
a little bit more delicate.
Now I'm just like, you know, whatever.
If you want to come to that photo of me brushing my hair,
you know, whatever, like, go for it.
Go for it.
But also, I don't need to see that.
No, of course.
So it's like, la la la la la la la.
And also, that's a huge side of the business.
You can't go on it and not be exposed to that language.
You know, sometimes graphic images that you do not want to see.
But you can, again, go back to your boundaries and be like,
I don't accept this.
Or this is not.
what I do on here. I have explained very clearly in my bio what I do. If you don't like that,
please leave. But you know, I'm not going to judge anyone for that. You know, there are lots of
lonely people in the world that, you know, I've spoken to so many people from around the world now
that are alone in the middle of the night and they just want something. And it's like, if they're
also going to pay for my milk this week, great. Yeah. Great. I'll have a chat or like, you know,
I'll send you this photo. I'll, you know, I find it quite beautiful. Yeah, for sure. It's also like,
What was the difference between that and an acting role?
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So I was just on the tube and I just saw an advert.
I won't see the brand for beans.
And it's someone sticking their tongue in a jar of chickpeas.
There's one chickpee and they're trying to get the last chickpea out of the jar
and they're just sticking their whole tongue in it.
And it's like 8 a.m in the morning and I'm seeing someone's full tongue like blown up
on like underground.
God so.
And I'm just like.
That was me.
Why are we sexualizing chickpeas?
Yes.
Why are we doing this?
Like everything is sexualized now.
To such a everything we go on Instagram, you're seeing someone's whatever.
Like it's just the way it is.
And so why are we judging someone going on OnlyFans and doing their hair content?
I'm having full power.
I've never even done a bikini shot online.
Yeah.
How can you be judging me?
Like I'm going up for a role where you have to do a full sexy.
Yeah.
Oh what?
There's a piece of plastic on my vagina stopping.
it from being real sex.
No, it's fucking sex.
Like, that's what it is.
You're paying me to have sex on camera.
That's what this job would be, you know?
People are naked in films all the time.
You can find exactly the time stamp of when they're naked,
when this right boob is out.
Yeah, it's a weird time, isn't it?
It's mad to judge something where you're being honest,
you're being upfront about what you're selling.
If you do that, I'm not doing that, but whatever.
Like, I would love to do a sex scene in a film.
I've never got cast in anything remotely sexy.
Like I've never even really had a kissing scene properly
Apart from Rupert Grint and Harry Potter that was it
But this I mean there must be a power as well
In like what you're doing like having these people interested
And on a confidence level
Yeah
Like I personally would never do an only fan because I just don't think anyone would subscribe
Like that's my only issue
And I can't deal with that level of embarrassment
Lily what have you got in your shop?
What is it in my shop? A beer belly
A receiving hair like?
What's your feet like?
Oh
I can see feet.
I've seen them.
They're dogs.
They're dogs.
Yeah, it's really been, it has been really good for my confidence.
It's nice for people to also like my eccentricities.
That's been quite nice.
I think people do have a slightly archaic attitude towards mothers and sex.
Like it's really untalked about, like, how you might still want to have lots of sex after you have a baby.
Or you might, like, want to be considered it.
sexual person after you have a baby you might have seven kids and still like want to be seen as
like fucking hot well there's reason you've got seven kids yeah exactly because you have but you know
I I feel like that was something that I I just always felt slightly invisible and um there's there's no
bad thing about you know people I don't know I'm not saying that I wanted to be seen but I also
I think I did have this moment at like 35 where I was like
okay, I don't think I'm going to have another baby, even though I would absolutely love to.
Like, all I want to do is have another baby.
I want to be pregnant the whole time.
Like, I'm hopelessly addicted to having a baby.
Oh, wow.
I would have like 10 kids.
If I can have 10 kids, I'd have 10 kids.
I was watching one of, because you do a podcast with your partner, don't you?
Where you were talking about this.
And I was really laughing to it.
I would have, if I could have twins, I think I would die happy.
I would just like, I would die as I had them.
I'd be like, I'm just too happy.
I'm too happy.
What?
Can I ask why?
I just, I just, I am.
bizarre like this. I just think it's the most amazing thing. Oh, that's beautiful. Like my
boyfriend is obsessed with dogs. We've just got a giant dog and I never have even touched
a dog and yet now I have a giant dog. I don't understand how this has happened. But the dog is
kind of like now my fifth baby. I have, I've suddenly just started loving a dog and putting
blankets on a giant dog. And now that my youngest has started school, I'm bereft and I'm like,
the only thing I've got is a dog. I have to ask. We have spoke a little bit about like the
public's reaction and tabloids. Have any of your co-stars shown any support to what you're doing?
Oh my God. So soon after I launched it, I did a Harry Potter convention. I've stopped
doing Harry Potter conventions since, for loads of reasons, but I won't go into that. Everyone there.
So there was like, it was like Devon, who plays Seamus and Ivana, he plays Luna, Afshan.
And oh my God, it was like a group of us together. And we were all in breaks.
like talking about only fans and joking about it
and they were all like helping me with ideas
and Devon in particular was like
you need to be careful about leaked photos
thanks Devon
and I was like
Devin will you be in a head
this would be the best thing ever
and I think we did a video there
and like I just love him he's my favourite
oh my God I love him so much
and yeah they were just so supportive
so so supportive I love that
not enough people speak about, like you said,
this was 20 years ago,
that kind of gap between being a child actor
pretty much to being an adult,
that bit in between is that there's a microscope on you.
Are they finding the same, like, worries with that?
I think so.
I think it's hard because unless you've worked throughout,
like I wasn't a child actor, so I don't know, but you do.
So that's be considering 20 year old is young.
Yeah, I think I see 20 as like,
I feel like I was an adult when I did it.
Yeah.
But I have met loads of child actors and lots of jobs I've done.
And I definitely watch them carefully.
And I look at the parents and I have seen some really great stage moms, stage dads.
And I've seen some really bad ones.
If your kids turn around to you in a couple of years times that they wanted to be actors, what would your response be to that?
I would say absolutely not.
Really?
Absolutely not.
I mean, it's so hard, isn't it?
I don't know.
I don't think it will exist.
I think everything will be monetized.
They'll be like, no, if she said, like,
I don't think my sons will want to do that.
But my daughter was like,
I want to do it.
And she has already said that.
Because I think every nine-year-old wants to be, like, an actor.
I would be like, yeah, sure, write it.
Yeah, if you want to, if you're, right, right,
write a one-om show, yeah, write it.
I love that response.
I want to be a singer.
Yeah, cool, write your songs.
Yeah, cool.
Yeah, play an instrument.
Yeah, cool.
Like, that's all I say, because it's like,
you're not taught.
that again. I think now actors know that if you want to make it, you've got to have other
other things in your shot. Yeah. I think that dream of now like when I'm older, I want to be
an actress is just completely done. Yeah. I think so. I mean, I think that's such a brilliant
response because especially with music, but like on the acting side, so many of these like great
projects like Fleabag like are written first and then they star in it, don't they? Yeah.
These actors and it's kind of like you also teach yourself to have so many more avenues than just
actor.
Yeah.
You can then go down the writer path, maybe even a director's path, and you've just got more
opportunities.
That's what I just instinctively did, because I didn't really ever intend to do acting.
I wasn't a child that did it.
I was at art school and I needed money.
My little brother was on an agency at the time and I just, it was a complete accent
basically.
And so since day one of doing acting, even with Harry Potter, I didn't really get any work
straight away after.
So I just was, I mean, even then, I was still at art.
school so I was drawing at the same time. I've always done multiple jobs as I've done acting.
So I don't really know how to do one job, basically. For sure. I mean, it feels like a nice place
to round up with just rectifying again. You don't solely do OnlyFans. You are also an artist as well.
You are still making shows and things like that. Where can people see your other stuff?
Well, I don't really know at the moment. I mean, I do shows all the time, like sporadic ones.
I'm hoping that next year I do the show that I have written about OnlyFans, which I did just now in Edinburgh.
It's fictional, but it's based in reality.
It's about the subscriber-creator-creator relationship.
So I did a work in progress in that in Edinburgh just now, and I'm hoping I do that as a full-scale theatre show next Edinburgh.
I don't know if that will happen.
I hope it does.
But I'm trying to write a book, another book.
And my job is now kind of like, job.
struggling how I keep going as a writer and earning money
and do the content that you need to do to survive on OnlyFans
and have a podcast and trying to work out what my next step is.
It constantly changes, but it's the first moment I've had really
to come up for air with the ages that my kids are.
Okay.
Because my youngest has just started school and I've found that incredibly shocking
to like suddenly have no one at the house.
in the day and just be on my own,
apart from the giant dog, and my boyfriend, obviously.
But so it's now just like, okay,
what do I want to put my creative energy into
whilst also trying to make money?
Yeah.
Because genuinely, I could be a, I mean,
I would say my, in terms of percentages,
my week at the moment is like 80% only fans.
Yeah.
But if it's not, you can't survive on it.
So it's one of those things where you just have to constantly weigh up
can I survive financially if I'm putting 40% into it?
Yeah.
Probably not.
Or can I survive this month by putting 20% into it
and then really focusing on this writing project or whatever?
It constantly is just going up and down.
And that I don't have the luxury at the moment of having a sure thing.
And speaking of your only fans account,
where could, if any of our listeners or watchers want to check it out?
It's just Jesse Cave.
You can find it quite directly.
Perfect.
I really can.
And that should be at the top of the Google page.
Is it?
I don't know what is.
I'm so scared about that.
Don't look.
Don't look.
We'll do it in our...
I have a website.
I haven't ever had time
to build a website.
Like maybe I can do that
now that it's called build a website.
Can I also say I'm in a film?
Yes.
Thank you.
Because I actually did do a film this year
which was my dream job.
It was like a lead part
in an independent film
for very little money.
I'll just say that
because I think it's important
to talk about the realities of...
Of course.
Like I actually, the childcare cost meant
that the...
I didn't actually earn any money during the film,
but I'm really proud of the film,
and it's called A Curse and a Frame.
And it's out soon, and it's, yeah, look out for it.
It's really good.
It's about a curse painting.
Oh, my God, that's that nice group.
And what's the name of your podcast?
Our podcast is called Before We Break Up Again.
Amazing.
And it's on YouTube every Friday.
Good.
Thank you.
Really enjoyed the clips from that, actually.
I watched a couple on your social.
It's really good.
Chemistry is amazing.
I really enjoyed the one that you put out recently reacting to the comments from you on this morning.
I know.
They were so funny.
That was the one where there was a back shot.
There was a back shot.
Why are they showing the back of my head?
Well, they know that's where the money is, the money maker.
It's common.
And I had dressed in a rush on the train,
so I was wearing a normal outfit underneath my, like, TV outfit
because I thought that would be nice,
and I didn't realize I hadn't done the buttons up on the back of my dress.
Oh.
I looked bizarre.
Nobody told you?
No, because they didn't tell me there was a camera behind me.
That's crazy.
If someone put a camera behind me,
and I would just be like,
I was,
posture.
Yes,
so it was awful.
The hunch of my back
and my neck would be atrocious.
Yeah,
watch out next time I was asked on this morning
to promote your own fans.
I was wearing this, like,
very conservative dress
that I knew would be funny
to be talking my own friends.
And I was like,
would it be really inappropriate
if I wore like a bondage necklace?
Oh.
So I look completely.
Um it.
People were like,
She's Amish.
She's definitely armish, but I have a bodice.
And I'm like, I roll up my tattoos.
I thought the clip was, like, brilliant anywhere.
And then your reactions to the clip was just so funny.
I was just laughing nonstop watching it.
So I was like, okay, girl, you do you, but that bandana and that dress on TV is a big no.
Shut up.
That's crazy.
Oh, my God.
As I walked into the studio that morning, I think people did.
Like the people on this morning were like,
oh, she's one of the rescued, um,
she's been in a bunker.
Ushering me to the,
to the sofa,
like,
the lights could be okay for you.
Oh my goodness.
You don't look like you.
I try to look more normal today.
Oh my God.
Some people on TikTok,
I sometimes don't even watch the video.
Oh,
the comments are so good.
Yeah.
Well,
Thank you so much for chatting with us today.
Everyone give it up for Jesse.
Thank you so much.
