Tea at Four - How vapes can ruin your diet, facials gone wrong and Trap's Saleka Shyamalan spills all on working with her Dad
Episode Date: August 14, 2024Christie and Lauren are joined by Billy for another Quick Cuppa. They discuss weddings and engagements, a traumatising memory of a facial gone wrong, and a shocking side affect to vaping... Lauren als...o had the pleasure of talking to Saleka Shyamalan, who stars in the film Trap, directed by her Dad M. Knight Shyamalan. They talk about scary relics in her family home, and what it's like working with your Dad. If you have any funny stories or dilemmas you’d like to share, please send them to teaatfour@junglecreations.com or DM us on Four Nine’s Instagram.Â
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Hi guys, welcome back to T-App 4. I'm Christy. I'm Billy. And I'm Lauren and welcome back to this week's Quick Cupper.
Hi, Lester Cups. How's everyone doing?
Yes, all good in the state of the world.
It is scary outside, but let's do what we do best and think about TikTok.
Distract from the rest of the world falling down around us so what has been going
on on tiktok guys oh let's start with the real world first oh all that chronic chronically online
okay chronically online let's go what's in the real world why don't we ease in what's new you've
been to how many weddings this year 25 maybe i don't i don't even know i've lost count i'm just
waiting for my own wedding i don't know when it's
gonna happen always the bridesmaid never the bride oh actually the mc yeah always the mc
yeah so instead of me you know focusing on catching the bouquet i'm focusing on getting
the mic off the mc so yeah that's been my vibe going from mc to be Yeah. MC to, oh yes, Lauren, I'm down for that.
But yeah, I've been enjoying like seeing
people our age getting married.
Yeah, it's exciting, isn't it?
Yeah.
We don't know anyone like us.
Rosie's getting married.
Rosie's getting married last year.
Yeah, but I've not seen it with my own eyes yet.
You said there was a wedding last year with me.
Yeah, just one.
Just one.
Christy's been to more weddings than I have
in my entire life just this
year i know three people close friends that got engaged this year that's gorgeous how about you
how many people can afford it how do you afford it these days um what'd you say what about you
how many engagements or like have you i mean none had no like but friends news like our friends
are clearly like yeah only really
like two or three
yeah
and then I've probably
been to only about
three weddings
in my whole life
but we're
I think we're like
it's starting
the whole kind of
like phase of going
to weddings
is starting now
it's starting now
that's quite exciting
and you want it to be slow
because when you have
like so many people
who have like
ten weddings in a year
you have no time
for holidays
oh my god
and they want to
take out my annual leave wow I'm not sure on that yeah um but in our news not so much weddings we went
to go see girls loud at brighton prize oh my god which is probably just as euphoric and biblical
as a wedding day what do they sing Promise I can make you love you. Nothing at all that I can't do.
Promise I'm me.
Promise I'm me.
Like, my mum's generation is like queen at Live Aid.
Mine's going to be Girls Aloud at Brighton Pride 2024.
I'll be telling the kids, the grandkids.
I'm going to have all their names tattooed on my arm.
Comic Sans.
Comic Sans.
Comic Sans.
What a fun.
It was fucking magical, Chris. It was so magical So good Can't even tell you
How good that day was
What was the best moment
For you guys
Was it them coming on stage
Was it like
A particular song they sang
Like
Just being there
With everybody
Yeah
It was the fact that
They did their whole set list
Like
Because usually you get
These performers
That come do
Like a festival
And they do like
Three or four songs
They ate
And left no crumbs
Like I was
Fucking fed Like me at a buffet I was No crumbs I was full By the end of the night festival and they do like three or four songs they ate and left no crumbs like i was fucking fed
like me at a buffet i was full for the end of the night for me like they just they delivered
everything they needed to yeah the whole atmosphere especially with what's going on this past week
it was such an escape into kind of like actually there are people out here in this world that just
care about the people they're with they care about
love they care about sharing like a good happy positive message and it's like it's crazy how we
can go from that on saturday to this week which has just been absolute horrendous yeah it's nice
to feel love be in an environment where it's gorgeous like that and it's so funny because
after it finished we were kind of just like should we chase the night or just accept the fact that nothing's ever going to top this
ever again ever again my wednesday no unless they're performing i do know shara cole personally
and i do yeah yeah yeah in my overdraft does look like it allow that
about four credit cards later just to get a meeting with them.
That's funny.
I think we could pull a few strings.
Yeah.
Come on, Tia, four.
Yeah.
Please.
We'll have you on the podcast then.
Fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What else is new?
I went and had a facial last night.
Okay.
Which was gorgeous.
I mean, I've seen London.
Yeah, I know. know can't tell i first day i came out like i've been attacked with tracker jackers from the hunger games oh my god waltz
like at the end she gave me it was like a like a anti-acne facial and at the end she gave me a
mirror and i looked at myself oh my god even baxter it was like you know that fucking uh bit
in the grinch when he looks at himself in the cracked mirror
and it's like
all bugs and stuff
I was generally
taken aback
by what I could see
but it was funny
because throughout
the whole appointment
I have this weird
like thing
where I just feel
insane jealousy
because like
when she's doing
the extraction
like doing the
little one
just pimple popping
I just wish I could fucking have my eyes open I wish I could be a camera I wish I could be doing this for myself and like doing the pimple popping.
I just wish I could fucking have my eyes open.
I wish I could be a camera.
I wish I could be doing this myself.
No, but this did make me think of something,
a very traumatizing memory.
So I've had, the last time I had a facial was about this time last year.
And I went to my usual lady,
a lovely lady who does my lashes.
And she's doing all sorts
on my face
like
putting like wax and stuff
and like
I must have looked
like a right sight
and then when I got home
I got a message from her
with a picture of myself
with my eyes shut
what do you mean?
mid treatment
like
from
taking from bird's eye shots
she asked for consent
she didn't ask for consent
I could hear her
fucking giggle
no
oh
and is that on her
Instagram now
no but
I want to see if I can
find the picture
because
it was a violation
so
I'm really nervous
for you
but
oh
she
there's a video
oh my god
the mustache
I can't show you this
i did not know i was being no way that is a violation
you're gonna have to blur this out but my god i felt so scared after that and it's also so scary because when you go down there
like even when i get my lashes tinted and lifted like people are coming in in that room and i can't
open my eyes so now i've got a new fear a lot of like what's going on like my being robbed
what else is new with you billy what have you been loving what have you been hating what have i been loving what i've been hating um be well i've obviously everything new that i
tell people is what i've read online actually which is actually translation to what i've seen
on tiktok there you go first bit of news which i'm sure i've probably told you about a thousand times a lost mary vape bar has 30 calories in it per vape per vape and i sorry was kind of stunned
at the idea that something that i do occasionally thinking oh i'm so skinny cake more cigarettes
like eating cake right but i guess it's the same because they're fruit aren't they yeah they extract
the juices
from a fruit
natural
just a tiny drip
of nicotine
but ultimately
it's one of your
five a day
but my thing is
it's air
right
so how does air
contain so much calories
apparently it's like
the vapour droplets
they have like
it's the battery acid
the battery acid
yes
that you're vaping into
that's crazy
that's so funny to me in my head you're probably thinking like nothing tastes as good as skinny
feels i was like you're there just i was like said to someone i was like oh my god yeah i really i
can when i'm really hungry i'll just have a little bit and then it like when you're really hungry
yeah it takes away my appetite no wonder because i'm consuming 30 000 calories crazy are you putting that in my fitness power
yeah calorie tracker 90 calories a day oh my god so like billy what are you gonna do right
are you gonna like i'm gonna quit i'm quitting guys yeah putting out there there'll be no more
content after a couple of weeks at the end of summer yeah summer it's gone moment and that's it and you believe what was the source
TikTok
TikTok can't lie
yeah but who on TikTok
well I then googled it
because I was like
I didn't believe it outright
I was like
no this is bull
and then I googled it
first of all
it came up as 100 calories
but then it said
100 calories per milliliters
and I was like
I don't have the maths
to do that
and when I googled it
this morning
wow I lost Mary is 30 calories damn how are they getting that that's more than an apple
does it not come in the packaging i doubt it no i'd be surprised protein carbohydrates calories
it could be like 30 calories ingredients yeah make your own so before with like cigarette
packets you've got like a picture of dirty lungs all these other things this one will just be like
you me just an asshole wall of face actually not what i need to hear when i'm doing my doom
scroll every night yeah that's scary another thing to worry about my gripe on tiktok this
not great my gripe on facebook tiktok this week yeah um there's a trend going around and i don't
know if it's old or if it's new but it makes me sick it's to that song breaking my heart and it's daughters and sons posting their parents when they were young
like thirst traps and being like my dad in the 80s do you fancy your dad or something yeah it's wrong
okay yeah yeah it's like freud is freud is loving this like i I don't know.
First trapping your parents is not okay.
No. I'm so sorry.
They did not give consent for that.
It's given a very...
No, not familiar, but...
Maybe to the up theme tune, but not...
Breaking my heart.
There's too much soul in that.
A little bass.
What are you trying to do?
Trying to find... What are you trying to do? Trying to find, you know...
What have you done before?
Protecting from the internet.
It's like you're...
Not exposing your parents,
but like, let's say for instance,
somebody comes across that photo,
that TikTok.
Yeah.
They find your parent now
on bleeding Facebook
or whatever the parent uses,
then tries to pursue relationship with your parent.
You're kind of to blame.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
I think it's a vanity thing that like people think
it's because it's what they look like as well.
And like, oh, look, this is how cool my parent was.
I've got cool jeans you know
what i mean you're cute jeans you're cute jeans yeah i agree i i don't know some people will be
like oh no i'm just appreciating my parents i love my parents but it kind of gives me the same
energy as when i once sent my mom a valentine's day card she was like that's fucking weird don't do that you got pied by your mom wait a minute i bought a rose did you that's cute
though that's cute valentine's day is for different types of love there you go it doesn't have to be
romantic yeah it's commercialized to be romantic but it's supposed to be about showing the ones
you love you love them because my mom still buys me chocolates on valentine's day that's cute my
mom don't buy me jack shit.
And it's just like, you're right,
it's the whole vibe.
Valentine's Day's for that.
But like TikTok, your parents might not even see it. And you're there just like replying to comments
of people being like, oh my God, your dad was a sort.
So sorry.
But if me or my sister put up a photo of my dad,
he'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
Take that down now.
I think my dad would probably like it my dad would be like yeah you see me
i was that was lovely i'm beautiful than all of you guys i'm like okay what he's more beautiful
than you yeah his children yeah he says but i guess you don't be confident in yourself you know
i'm the main character now you have to pass down your care for generations
that's what you have to do as a parent
when one supreme dies another rises
exactly
last night
I was
having my couple minutes in TikTok
before bed, classic
falling asleep, sending things
to people and I came across the best
video ever
did you know the Teletubbies,
Tipsy is voiced by a Jamaican man?
Let me try to say Tipsy again.
The green one.
Tipsy.
La la.
The tall one.
The green one.
Green.
Tinky Winky.
Yeah, that's purple.
La la's yellow.
Poe is the green one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Jamaican.
He's a Jamaican man. Yeah. I didn't know they spoke. No, I'm going. Lala's yellow. Poe is the green one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jamaican. He's a Jamaican man.
Yeah.
I didn't know they spoke.
No, I'm going to show you this video.
They don't speak.
No, they...
They...
No.
Yes, she does.
Does he have a...
Like, accent.
But I was absolutely creasing my pants off.
Oh.
Oh! answer oh he's so serious and the comments were even better
i saw that this morning i didn't understand it and i was like what is this no context
is that his the way he's yeah it's like just it and I was like what is this no context the beginning of that literally
is that his
the way he speaks
yeah it's like
just a normal person
yeah like
what's going on
me ordering a kebab
at 4am
me when I have to
leave a voicemail
and get nervous
oh
I didn't know
that was who's behind
no
that is crazy
the more you know
the more you know
do you know what else
I found out this week
what
Christ
Jesus Christ that isn't his last name.
Yeah, it was never his last name.
I don't think he has one.
What is it?
He doesn't.
Windsor?
No, because he wasn't rich enough, he didn't have a last name.
So he was just Jesus of Nazareth.
And Christ just is a translation for Messiah.
I always thought he was like last name in the register, Jesus Christ.
Yeah,
so you're saying
he did a Cheryl Cole
and dropped the Cole
and just went for Cheryl?
Like now he's just Jesus.
Jesus.
Or Beyonce,
Madonna.
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
But you heard it here first,
Jesus Christ copied Cheryl Cole.
Wow.
That was brilliant.
I had a shower thought this week
after watching
the Kardashians new series.
Something that I've picked up on is they never crease up.
They never belly laugh.
They're never slapping their knee and laughing till there's no audible noise coming out.
Yeah, I agree.
I think they would have done in the early seasons when they weren't so popular.
Yeah.
Manufactured.
Yeah.
Famous and like serious about everything like could you think behind
closed doors they're like i would they no i just don't think they would laugh at all to be honest
i did watch you know you know that kaisa that guy he he got invited to north i think 11th birthday
i don't know why i sat down i watched he's a twitch streamer yeah i don't
know how old he is but he got invited to i think north yeah he got invited to north's um birthday
party and he vlogged the whole the whole thing and literally they'll be doing stuff where the kids are
like laughing about or the or him and the kids are kind of you know joking around playing knockdown
ginger and literally kim just she there's no emotion it's very like but that's what happens when you
sell your soul to the devil he takes your soul and that's why they've got all the fame and rich
in the world the fame and rich
i'm telling y'all they've been selling The answer to the devil I just find it weird That there's no personality
Have a laugh Danielle
Come on
Tongue and cheek
Ha ha ha
Goes a long fucking way
I see
Like there's nothing better
Than having a crease up
With your friends
Like do you think
They've ever experienced
Like that level of happiness
Like you know
When you just like
You're too
high on like just life and it's perfection as well yeah a level of perfection is just like
like you need to overshare it on a friday night oh my god you need those about your poo on the
internet right come on kitty k come down i can give I don't know about the rest of them
but I can give
Kim some grace
because obviously
she's been through a lot
that kind of
wasn't that
that happened in Paris
yeah
she's had
quite a bit of trauma
to be fair
I think it probably
is trauma
so maybe she's just
living life on like
not the edge
but like very like
trying to take life
very seriously
but I think she was
like that before
do you think
I do think
my biggest laughs come from my trauma maybe that's and you've had some big laughs
bigger the drama the bigger the laugh oh my god
yeah i just think like there's some celebrities i want to be friends with they look like a right
laugh yeah who would that be um who'd that be jade from little mix with they look like a right laugh yeah who would that be um who'd
that be Jade from Little Mix okay she looks like a right laugh sure maybe it's the British girlies
then yeah yeah Danny Dyer Danny Dyer the guy Charlie XCX yeah yeah so we were just talking
about Charlie XCX then um one thing I did want to talk about was so she has released a remix of
her song Guess which I'm obsessed with.
Obsessed.
With Billie Eilish.
I don't know if you've heard it.
Have you heard it?
I don't even know who Charlie XCX is.
Oh my God.
You know about Brat?
You know like Brat Summer?
The green stuff.
The green stuff.
I just know that because you guys bring it up.
So now I know.
But I don't know who created it.
I don't want to
I thought Brat was just
As in Bratz
No
I don't want to do
Like Charlie the disservice
Of going to one of her
Earlier songs
Because she's done so much
But you know like
Boom clap
The sound of my heart
The beat goes on
She sings the Please song
No
That's Sabrina
No that's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
That's Sabrina
What have you been doing
you've been walking too much
you've not been listening to music
been listening to our EastEnders podcast
Charlie XCX
she's like the big
there is a song that she
I think I know
I know one song
yeah
but I don't know
like it's the one that plays all the time
it's the apple
yeah
the dance
she's basically her sabrina carpenter and
chapel rona arguably like the biggest pop stars at the moment yeah let me just go search how they
look like yeah what i wanted to talk about was she's released a song with billy eilish and it's
a remix to a song that was on her album and it's really cool and billy who has like who features
in the song says something like oh like the lines are like, I want to try it, buy it.
And then she says,
I know Charlie likes boys,
but she know I'd hit it.
And people are like now calling her out for queer baiting and saying that her lyrics are too predatory,
which I just kind of think is absolutely crazy.
Firstly, on like the queer baiting thing,
because Charlie is,
no, no,y has had to
come out and defend her sexuality because people have claimed yeah queer baits anyway even though
she's openly said that like i like boys and i like girls yeah don't have a label for it i'm not
going to put a label on it but fans are still not letting her just talk oh no not just not letting her be and i feel like that is so
problematic that's like that's sexual sexuality and like talking about that stuff isn't hurting
anyone if you think about something you're referencing like eminem lyrics where fucking
i tied her up and pissed on her yeah like that's a completely different game but i think with
something in terms of billy's talking about a personal experience blah blah blah that's a completely different ball game. But I think with something in terms of Billy's talking about a personal experience, blah, blah, blah, that's not hurting anyone.
I also think, like, so the line is, like, Charlie likes boys, but she, but she know I'd hit it.
Is that not just kind of like...
Charlie likes boys, but she know I'd hit it.
Yeah.
It's a call to that book.
Do you not think that is just, like, a modern way of, like, being, like...
I fancy her. You're cute, I fancy you. I fancy you. I don't think, it's not, like, do you know think that is just like a modern way of like being like i'm i fancy you're kind of
you're cute i fancy you i don't think it's not like do you know what i mean and like charlie has
okay the lyrics she's okay the song she's shot the music video charlie has a no problem whatsoever
with this lyric and now the whole internet is kind of like fighting for charlie despite charlie
not having that okay do you know do you mean that's just this generation
to a t though yeah i mean like everybody can do anything they can create a tiktok video on that
and that creates talks and conversations in the comments and then it leads to something else so
it's a bit exhausting to be famous i was gonna say it it must be exhausting being an annoying person on TikTok.
Constantly upset by everything.
Right, I know it looks a little bit different right now.
Christy is absent.
She is not dead.
Oh, but maybe that's a little teaser for what I'm about to talk to you about.
No spoilers.
Right, Billy, I need to tell you about this film that I've seen this it's called trap and it's by m night shamalan no director yes done signs split
unbreakable the classics so he's just brought out this new thriller which is set in a concert
right instantly i was hannah montana There you go Not quite People die So
Hannah Montana the horror
Well
Something I would watch
So the film follows
A father and daughter
They're going to a concert
But what everyone doesn't know
Is the performance
The artist
Everything has been orchestrated
To catch the dad
Who is also a serial killer
In the act
That's scary It's scary you know the butcher
that freaking nut job that goes around just chopping people up
or the feds or whatever heard that he's gonna be here today so they set up a trap for him
this whole concert it's a trap the the dad is played by Josh Hartnett, who has had a big comeback from the 90s, 2000.
I think he was a big actor back then.
And then the main singer in it,
who's performing the whole time when this is going on,
is in on The Secret.
She's also a singer.
That's M. Night Shyamalan's daughter.
And she composed and performed like 14 songs,
which are on the soundtrack,
which I thought was quite impressive.
Yeah, that's really impressive.
The main girl's called Lady Raven.
Bit of a star. She's a star and um there's also a bit in the
film where the the dad's daughter gets to go up on the stage that's proper like justin bieber one
less lonely girl vibes but lesbian no no what it's a two girls she's a child i'm sorry
no it's a very innocent situation sorry just for clarification this one needs to go to the film
but it was very interesting because also m night shamalan always likes to do a little cameo in his
films and he's also appears in the film for a bit but she's also in the film um so in this interview
i was asking all sorts of stuff like i was asking her what a childhood home looked like,
being a proper creep, play the answer.
So I was talking to my team about this and it's quite a random one.
But when I imagine, not I do this often, but like your childhood home,
is it filled with like interesting or scary relics?
Like anything supernatural or is that completely not accurate?
No, I mean, there's some of the stuff from the movies, which can be creepy.
Right.
There's like random, there's like a doll from The Happening that is in our house somewhere.
Oh my God, I would not.
It's now like in a case, but it used to be when it first was in our house,
it was like just sitting in a chair at a table and it would just scare people when they walked into the room.
There is like some like torn off fake leg
that was sitting around from some movie.
Just the stuff from the movie is very creepy.
So there's a few of those things,
but now they're all like kind of in display cases.
Juju hidden away.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't see them like every day.
And obviously,
because I sound like a freak obsessed with her family,
I've asked her what it's like working with her dad.
Because can you even imagine working with your family on a film?
Oh, on a film as well?
I don't think so.
I can't imagine my dad on a film set though.
It's quite niche.
Yeah.
Apparently he's a really nice guy,
but here's what she had to say.
The movie follows a father and daughter relationship.
Can I ask what it was like growing up with yours?
Oh, I mean, amazing. I feel like it's hard to, you know, compare because I don't know anyone,
how anyone else grew up. But I would say, you know, I feel very blessed to have one very present
father who, you know, supports his kids and really genuinely believes that, you know, we can do
anything. And I feel like he has this very positive outlook on the world where he sees everyone's
potential and not just his children, but he, I've seen him do this with so many people where he
sees somebody who maybe has never done this before a production designer a composer or this and they
just done something small that he believes in he's like I think you can do it and he gives them
these opportunities and he believes in people and then he makes them do their best in a way he
brings the best out of people so it's incredible to have kind of a father and mentor that's like that well obviously on the podcast we've had a couple chats around like nepo
babies and like having people that have handed stuff down to them in the industry so i thought
that would be quite an interesting thing to bring up considering her dad's given her this first
acting role she's usually a singer but she had quite a good answer for this one what would you
kind of argue back to the kind of Nipo baby claims
that might come with you starring in a film that your dad's in?
Yeah, I mean, luckily there hasn't been much of that
and I think it's because of, you know,
it's all very, we're filled with so much pride for each other.
I think there's no, I think the sort of Nipo dialogue
is kind of insinuates like a bit of guilt or shame in it and I think that's just
not how we feel about each other you know our family my grandparents came to America you know
with literally like pennies in their pockets and had this American dream and worked you know
overnight in the hospital to make one dollar and another dollar another dollar dollar they were
staying in like a reformed hospital room with like a hot plate. And then their son got to make movies.
And it was this like American dream, this miracle.
And, you know, the fact that we're able to make art, we're just so grateful for that.
I also think, you know, we're a family of minority storytellers.
And so I think we should support each other.
And I think that's a beautiful thing.
That's a brilliant answer.
I love that.
Thank you.
So it was a really interesting chat.
She was a lovely girl. And I feel like this kind of thriller feels very 2024 so if you're an
m night shamalan fan it's definitely an interesting watch put it on your radar thanks for watching if
you've got any confessions or dilemmas be sure to email us at t at four at jungle creations.com
or you can leave a comment on Spotify. See you next week. Bye.