Tea at Four - Migrant Protests, Cosplaying Prison and Why Gen Z Stopped Ironing

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

This week we're coming in HOT with our piping hot takes... From migrant protests to victorian orphans, we cover a LOT. What country are we really fighting for? And do millennials really wish they could be victorian orphans?We also debate why this generation stopped ironing, and if meal-prep is actually like being in prison.Send us YOUR hot takes, we'd love to discuss them xSend us your dilemmas, tea or quite frankly anything you find funny to [e-mail].💖 Watch on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Teaatfourpod💖 Follow on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@four.nine💖 Follow on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fournine/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Manifestation journals are healthier than gym journals. Huh? Jim. It's giving Fiona and Shrek too when he finds... You can't call her that. Mr. Mr. and Mrs. Fiona Charming. Mr. and Mrs. Fiona Charming.

What? And Mrs. Vianne. Charming. Hey, hey, hey. How's the best girlfriend? Hey, you. What did they say after that? I couldn't think of it.

Mom, leave. Mom, leave. No? Yeah, that's... Something like that. Iconic line. Oh, how we? you're doing. Oh God, I think I've got gout.

That's not new. No, it's not no, but it's rearing its ugly head again. Really? Do you know what gout is, Christy? Is that it like to do with your stomach? Henry the Ake-panic, it gets in between your toes even. It's actually between your joints, between, for having too much. Gout. So like goo, like, in between your drink.

I don't really know what it looks like, but it's kind of caused by an overindulgence of red wine and red meat. Oh, so you've been, you've been sipping on that. wine and that meat. I actually don't think it's gout. I've just got horrible stomach pains. Wamp, womp, get well seen, mate.

Thanks, I try to. The vibes are off this week. The vibes were up last week, but there's something even more rearing its head. This week is gout. Last week was e coli. Echolite. Anyway, so our theme of this week's episode,

we enjoyed it a couple weeks ago, debating some hot takes. So, obviously, we're called tea at four. So let's debate some piping hot takes of the week. Let's go. That's what take. With these Epping protesters, if safety is the argument, then why don't we see the same fury when locals offend? Selective outrage says more about fear of outsiders than care for victims.

Absolutely agree. I hear that. And there's a simple answer. It's racism. Boy. Yeah. That's what it is. So basically, in Epping, there's a hotel that's housing asylum seekers.

And one of these people has been done now for assaulting like a 14 year old, which is absolutely horrific. I'm not not not condemning that but it's the fact that finally this conversation is infiltrating my male circles it's not just protesters online it's not just what I see on TV of gammon shouting at hotel finally like men friendships people I care about are concerned about the safety of women and girls where was that before where was that before when Sarah Everard yeah so true not many guys were really speaking at no but it was it was women talking it was women that were kind of like shouting like there's a problem with men yeah and we're not seeing that and there's almost this kind of like is this is the way that people view it is it's like us versus them

do you know what I mean whereas men also automatically view themselves as the other them it's because the they and them in terms of like being in the UK is female male yeah but when it comes to other nationalities the they them one nationality versus the other as opposed to all just being people. Yeah. And like helping whoever. 100%. It's just at this point

people are looking for a reason to hate. And I wish that had that they had that same energy that they stream into negativity and anger and they put it into proactiveness for things like safety of women and girls. And actually looking at the fucking issues we have in our own house. Yeah. Also those men that were then going off and protesting were then seen shouting,

get your tits out to all these girls. How does that make sense? Protect our women. I feel like when it comes to like protest, people like to jump on the bandwagon, but then also I do feel like it's unresolved anger that they themselves haven't dealt with or insecurities, that is like, okay, cool, you know what?

Because now people are shouting at this. I'm going to utilize this area or this environment and I express my own kind of thoughts or feelings. But I think the danger of that is is that you don't know, because you don't put yourselves in other people's shoes, you don't know how what you're doing is affecting other people. I feel like, yeah, everybody just needs to like reflect, give grace and just see humans as human beings, like all the same.

Agreed. It's also terrifying because for the most part of like these past couple of years, I've always seen the issues going on in America as an American issue. Yeah. That's over there. Yeah, yeah. And like these past couple of weeks, I'm like, no, it's everywhere. It's actually the rise of the right and right wing and the kind of like the splitting of people, you know, people who have different views to you. It's scary because people who have different views.

views to me normally have very aggressive, hateful views and seeing how many of them showed up and were willing to be on camera and to walk the streets and stand up in such a large number. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. And I hate to say it, they've all got a very common aesthetic. And it's not, look, this is another conversation I've been having. Like, bold-headed men, what does anger and stress cause you? Hair loss.

Chill out, baby, peace. When you look back, when you look back at the, you, look back at the, you. The male hippies back in day, long, glorious hair. That's because they weren't stressing. They weren't getting angry at things that shouldn't they, like spending a Saturday going to a march like that. I was having lovely pizza. I was going to sin while.

I was chilling out. I get the need to obviously make a stand and vocalise and be politically proactive. I get it. But calm down. Yeah. I also saw like one video. Also, fat.

Fat. Fat. Oh my. It's because they've got a belly of beer, gout, beer. And hate. A belly of imported beer. Imported beer. Yeah.

This is the thing. Like, it's also like all those people. Dr. Dr. Dr. Actually, no, I like Marjorie. But you're not there. No, I know, exactly.

That's why they're, we're like, check yourself. Surprise, surprise. But it's also like, no. It's also the people that were like wearing those flags and then those videos of them helping themselves to a food market where it was all from different walks of life. I think it reminded me of, I think that weekend

I stayed at home but then I had like friends like going out there like yeah just be careful on your outside I'm just thinking that's absolutely not. This is not the life of the world that I'm living in but it reminded me when I was younger and I went to visit my cousins in Scotland and playing out

oh it was it was tense but it's so it's so annoying because it's obviously it's taught whereas let's say as kids you're paying out with other people other races and we're having a way of a good time and as soon as their parents come you could just see the change of like the atmosphere the way people were talking to you um i did i feel like that's my first kind of experience of racism but it was just i think as a child especially it was like why are people like where did you get this for like should i mean like it's all taught isn't it like crazy it's all inherited

thoughts like it's what you learn from what you it's what you take on what you learn from hateful parents. And the media has a massive responsibility. Oh my god, yeah, big time. I've had friends that saying they've gone out of London a little bit and they're seeing the people don't the flags outside the house. What's the not flags? Like putting the flags out. Oh yeah, I drove to the Airborne and I saw it. Yeah. I don't care what people say like there is a different connotation between the the Union Jack and the St. George's flag. I only like St. George's flag when it comes to football. I hate it when it comes to things like this.

Like, give me the United Kingdom because that's the United Colors, you know what I mean? I love that. But that white and red, oh my God. Yeah, it's terrifying. It's like, there's also like the similar connotations to, in America, I think it's the Confederate flag, which was used in the South during the kind of like the Civil War, which was like the South were fighting for the right to keep slaves versus the North who

wanted to abolish slavery. And now when people fly the flag, the competition. Confederate flag, I think people are like, well, it's the flag of the South, but it comes with all that history and that meaning and like why people are actually putting it up. Are people putting up the St. George's Cross because they're proud to be English or they put it up because they want to say, this is our home, this isn't your home. Yeah, and this is the thing as well, because people are so obsessed with this idea of like back when we were a proper country, tell me what that looks like.

Because I feel like you're imagining like in the cat and the hat when they're all coming out their house at the same time. this, this. Hello, good morning. Yeah, Truman Show. How does that turn out? And like, like socially, we move so much more differently these days. It's not possible to have the same kind of like community, I don't think it's possible to have the same kind of community interactions that you had 20 years ago because of things like flexi working hours, working from home, COVID. There are so many factors that come into play that you don't need to blame it on racism or migrants. Or what were you saying at lunchtime? Not a single straight person will smile at you out of

the office. I'm really upset about this. I smile at people, a small smile, and I get a straight face back. Yeah. When did we lose that? That's what I'm obsessed with. Not. I mean, I used to fly a big smiley face. I'm going to be, it's a coming, it's definitely a coming of age. I feel like, more like to ourselves nowadays. Because I remember my neighbor before, I'd know everybody's name. Like, I would be so happy to leave my door open. I don't do that now, so don't even try and find me come to my house. But, um, can you imagine? I leave my door open. But like, It was just nice that you come down the stairs. How you're right?

Happy Sunday. Blah blah blah. Nowadays, when I walk to work, I tried to smile. People just looking at me like, people want to hold me at Godpoint for asking for my parcel to be held at that house. I'm controversial opinion coming in. I don't want to talk to strangers. I don't want to.

I don't want to waste a smile and strangers. You never know your smile. Orchid just a small interaction can make their day. Billy, you're telling me if I come into work and I don't smile at you, that's different. I know you, I work with you. I mean, like, community with you. Yeah.

And, like, that's different to kind of like being on the, on a train. And I don't know who these people are. I don't know when they washed their hands last. I'm screaming. I think I'm not having a hard shake them. I don't know what their hygiene levels are. I don't know what they get up to when they go home. I've got to be, you have my wits about me.

Their breath smells. Exactly. Imagine wasting a smile on someone with bad breath. It's not really wasting a smile. It's like, you know, it's a bit, it's endorphine to yourself. I do actually smile quite a lot. lot on the train to be fair. I'm just playing a devil's advocate.

Because I don't know who's... My mum always says to smile at strangers in case they kill you or in case someone kills you later on. And then people always remember that lady who smiled. That's so true. And also, on Saturday when I actually went on the train, it did feel a lot like the Joker. Like, everyone was just trying to be like silly and like...

Just acting out of sorts. And I thought... Yeah. Because then at least people remember, oh, she smiled at me. Oh, that was a lady that was murdered. I remember her. And I remember more of the case said they make it tell the police. Okay.

Right. Should we go on to the next one? Yeah. Who's next? Who's next? Okay. Hot take. I knew this generation didn't give a beep when everybody stopped ironing.

Facts. I agree. And I hate it. Sorry, sorry, Benny. I love you. My sister. Oh my gosh. I'll be like, are you going outside like that?

She's like, yeah? I said, are you going to iron your clothes? Yeah, fools out. And she was like, no, it's going to, you know, it's going to crease out whilst I wear it. I was like, it's absolutely not. I think the day she took an eye, not iron, a straightener, and she was like, let me just, I said, excuse me? Yeah.

When it's done? Yeah. Absolutely not. Iron your clothes! I'm really 50-50 on this. You don't iron your clothes. Sometimes no. I love ironing.

You were quite good at ironing your clothes. It's because when I've got a space or when I want to, but sometimes I'll put something on without lining it, and then if I think it needs an iron, I'll iron it. That's so brave. I'll iron it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You can't afford an iron though. Right, that's nasty. I will say, this is a toxic trait of mine. If I get something out and it's creased, I put it back in the wash again. What? I do that all the time. What should you put back in the wash again?

It's going to be even more creased. I won't be even more creased. I agree. If I'm putting cloves away and my like, I've got a pile of things I didn't want to wear that day that I've already tried it on and try it again in the wash bin. Yeah. Because all you've got crease. Yeah.

Also, it's more the effort of putting them away. But you know how. lovely a nice creased, a nice iron top jacket, trout. I've got finer things in life to care about them. No, guys. You could do with ironing some of your clothes.

Yeah, like, fuck off. Yeah. And it's worse because the clothes are getting cheaper and made with worse fabrics. So everything creases so much worse. You guys are just finding excuses. I know, I do agree with you. Everything does.

I can always tell when someone hasn't ironed their clothes. Something from Zara literally looks like it's part of the fucking foil fabric. But there goes ours are a brand deal I don't want them anyway No I I feel like everybody should go back into like Buy an ironed It's so therapeutic as well

I do actually quite enjoy ironing Thank you think about it yet You know what you're wearing Okay go and then There's nothing else to do You think on a Sunday night I'm gonna set slaving over at my flat mate My flat mate were iron like loads

And like just do all Why not? And I still don't even understand That function What? The theme I don't I'm just doing up the funk satisfying it is doesn't do anything I'm going to make it so much quicker

you've clearly never ironed without it I don't know it at all get yourself a steamer then don't feteer I know what I'm getting you guys for a secret center then I don't want it I don't know I lost my steamer

I'll have a steamer steamer yeah I'll bejazzle you're gonna bejazzle me you're gonna bejazzle my betazel thank you you're bedazzle what My vajazzal.

Vajal, you're bedazzle. A vajazzal is for a vagina. Okay, next one. Yes. People who meal prep are cosplaying prison. Cosplay in prison. Yeah. I do always feel like a dinner lady when I have to, oh, no, it is horrible.

We eat meal prep today, didn't we? And we hated our lunch. And it did feel like an inmate. Really? It was so gross. Together? No, we just happened to have the same meal. The exact same lunch.

We made the exact same days ago. Three days ago. So we're cosplaying. It felt like in prison. It feels like prison. It does like when you make a meal and it's fresh and it's lovely. But then when you sit down for three days in a row having the same meal that's now got a box of condensation. Oh no, no, it's the condensation.

Mine was half frozen because the fridge in there is broken. Yeah. And my bag I brought in was like water world. Well then why? No, I don't know what your problem with a bag is. Wait. So then why don't you guys just do different meals for each day. So meal prep but different.

You think my fridge? We live in a house share. You always think you were me to spend my Sunday. ironing, cooking and cleaning. You should go back into it. Absolutely not. It's a life skill. I can do it.

I did, I prove that. Yeah, but think about all the money you're saving. I'm not like some bun snacks. No, no, no. You know, Stacey, wait, what's her name? Doodley. No, no, her name's not that. Stacey Solomon.

Yeah, she went viral this week for saying about how she meal preps for her kids and they just have to deal with like the soggy carrots on a Friday. Why? That's horrible. You've got money. That's so horrible. You've got time, you've got money. Screaming.

Maybe I'm just used to... You don't meal prep. Yeah, I do. Easy to meal prep when you're eating watermelon, isn't it? Oh yeah, when you're having a melon and grapes for your lunch. Yeah, you do. It does feel like prison. I really rate that one.

Yeah. The third day. The third day. Yeah. Depending on what you're eating. You can judge it up, man. Yeah, I did. I went out and bought Nando's chili jam, especially for it.

Is that like, still taste the coli? Still taste the mold that's, like, been growing between the vegetables. Oh my gosh. Manifestation, German. are healthier than gym journals. Huh? Gym journal? Who has a gym journal?

Like you write down what you've done. What you've done? What you're going to do? Pan it out. What, dear diary. Today I did, three push-ups. No. Monday.

Like a schedule? Yeah, schedule. Like a little like checklist. It's not quite like the dear diary. Today I'm going to find a boyfriend. That was my joke. I just said that joke three seconds ago. Yeah, no.

I'm reversing it. I'm uner reversing it on you. Because you're clearly in the corner for manifestation of course. A manifestation journal did say. Yeah. So powerful.

Yeah, I would say speak life into yourself. I mean, love it. I think they're a load of waffle. Oh, what I mean? So you're telling me, before you go out, let's think you're going on a date, you're not manifesting right into yourself like,

yeah, I'm going to, yeah, he's going to love me. He doesn't really do that, does it? No, I'm not a loser. Oh, that is the craziest thing to do. Speaking life into yourself as being a loser. It's giving Fiona in Shrek too

when he finds... You can't call her that. Mr. Missy Missy Fiona Charming Mr. Mrs. Fiona Charming What? Mrs.

Mioffi I stand by a manifestation because you always have to like what you write comes to fruition Absolutely I stand by it I'm so sorry

I don't believe you Well trust me It works I don't trust you Because you believe in manifestation No, yes to manifest Great things What will happen will be

I don't think It's going to work So you don't believe In the law of attraction No Oh you're going to get distracted I don't care I don't it's so

This is why nothing is coming to you, Billy. I don't really care about it. That's a hex. I don't care what she says. Is that going to happen? That's crazy. Even if you manifest it. I massively disagree.

I think lots of good stuff has come to me because of the energy I put out onto the universe. I don't think it's because of the energy you put onto the universe. I think it's because either you put in the effort or it's just luck. No. I think you're programming yourself. You're preparing yourself. You're pushing. You're motivating yourself to see.

We don't have magical powers, guys. Oh, you called yourself a witch. I am a witch. I can't wait to see you on the energy healer episode. You need to get healed. He needs it. Oh, you really, really. That's crazy.

If I ever hear you say, yeah, do you know what? I'm going to get that. I'm going to get this. I'm going to do this. I'm like, excuse me, ain't that a bit of manifestation? Yeah, I do it as a joke. Let's manifest, manifest. But I know it's not going to have any real consequence.

Because you don't believe in it. Exactly. You have to believe in what you're saying. I've still had a lovely life. Can't believe you've done this. I'm not, I've never missed out on anything, apart from Marian on the Ground Day tickets. Oh yeah, where's the manifestation there then?

I didn't do it, I didn't have time this week. There you go, period. Oh. And how many times have you manifested for Glasembury tickets? I've not got them. Oh, you don't know someone until you've seen them navigate a group bill at a restaurant. Yeah. I mean, it's telling.

Yeah. And I think it's you don't know someone because then again, let's say, for instance, they're going through something at home. Yeah. Or they've just had a very bad day. So I don't think it's you don't know somebody. I feel like, but the way they are. approach the situation, maybe it's just like, well, I think you can tell me, all you need to know about

someone by how they interact when the bill comes out. Really? Yeah, definitely. Like, the way that people change and shift and all of a sudden, you know, like, they're so, everyone becomes like slightly different because it's like, like, money changes people. And some people will go into their wallets and then they will start automatically working it out. Some people would be like, share it, it's fine. And it's, the real ones come through.

You know? The real ones come through. real ones and then the crack start to show and you start to think I don't want to go for dinner with you if you're going to be like that it's quite awkward but also like if I'm actually if I go out for dinner and I've already eaten say because otherwise there's no real chance of me not eating I said I'm just going to have a drink I'm I would actually still be like oh just split it it's fine every millennial secretly wants to be a Victorian orphan yeah that is so true what's the hot taking out of fact not every not every because I don't want to

be a Victorian orphan. I should know, it's a Victorian orphan like Annie? No. I think I'm quite niche in this fact. I don't think it's in every millennial. No, I agree. Just you.

And also, the more I did think about it, we went to go see what Oliver Twist a couple months ago. I was like, I don't think I could do that. I'd rather be like a... You're obsessed with Victorian children. Yeah. Like that chimney sweep from the Isle of White. He's Malentine Gray.

Yes, I do appreciate the Victorian child form. Oh, what? but I wouldn't like to be one. I wouldn't mind being a little Nancy, a little ditty in the city, but I don't want to be the actual child kind of scraping and skrimping and kind of getting shoved up chimneys.

You like to roll, want to roll players. No, I just want to, I just want to peek. Type in Valentine Grey, Christy. No, don't. It's so weird. Valentine Grey. There's a wax work on the Iron White that I used to be obsessed with. Valentine Grey by Sandy.

No, we don't have time. to go through that. But anyhow, yeah, I guess I don't think it's in every... Just Lauren. Just Lauren. I had a hot take the other day. Gen Z like to refer themselves as savage

because otherwise they'll just cry all the time. I'm a savage. Okay. Do you know what I mean? I feel like Jen Z is always like, oh my God, we will come for you, blah, blah, blah. But actually reality is they're crying most of the time. I thought about that when I was watching Cat'sine,

all do they do is cry. Really? Yeah. Cat's a show about this K-pop girl group formation. Superband. And I then thought about like, oh my God, crying is so common nowadays. Really? I think people cry less.

Really? I think millennials are crying more. Really? Camera and stuff. Oh, I love a good cry, boy. Cry, cry me a river, baby. I don't know the last time I cried. Do you?

No. I definitely do remember the. I write when I cry. I love it. Oh, my God. So you're manifestation diary and cry diary. What do you write? It's just how I'm feeling.

Do you scrapbook and collect like tear samples? I mean you can do the smudges on the page But yeah I think it's just nice It's not nice to release And when you read back it's like Oh my god this is me

And now I'm here Okay Aw Yeah man Wild I just think people should stop crying How can you stop crying? How can you stop crying?

It's an emotion bro I know but like people feel they need to cry all the time It's like just stop Who the fuck is crying around you? Thank God not that many people But I see a lot online Keep you crying

Just keep scrolling, babe. So often. I think actually that is a hot take. I think you shouldn't cry online. Oh, sorry for all us sharing our emotion. Do you know what? Showing some real emotions.

But for who? People you don't know. If you get attention. If you cry and you don't get attention, did you even cry? Thank you. But it also, does that mean? I'd be pretty my point, though.

Wait, are you saying, yeah, in movies as well, they shouldn't cry in movies? I'm saying people shouldn't cry and put it online. Okay, a film is online, so you shouldn't cry on in a film? Christy. Break it down what I'm saying for me.

Yeah, but I get it. Yeah. But I'm telling you, I'm asking you, so you're saying in a film, that's got nothing to do with people posting social media. Yeah, but they post themselves. It's content though, Billy. Okay, cool. Tears get clicks.

Yeah, award ceremonies. Arianna. Christy, you are, you are jumping fields over what I am saying. I'm saying people shouldn't put on their TikToks. People shouldn't put on their TikToks. Yeah, but. So you're just saying crying in general shouldn't exist? No, I'm saying.

social media. I was joking with that. I think people shouldn't post videos of themselves crying. So even your favourite artist shouldn't post videos with them crying then. No, give me the ick. It gives you the ick. Yeah.

I think you've jumped to fields over what I'm actually saying. The joke, I was making a joke that people shouldn't cry. Yeah. Cut that now. And what I'm actually saying is when people put on like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, that they're crying. I just think it's weird.

And I think that keep it to yourself because no one else should really, it's not anyone else's business. That sounds with the sound of the hunger games when a, thing goes off and someone starts crying. Someone that cried just died in the distance. Thank God. Okay.

Well, ending on that really negative note, negative Nelly Billy. Okay. Zoom in. Yeah. Well, thank you guys for joining us this week. Of course, if you've got any fun confessions or don't feel the teaser to send them to T up for at Junkercreations.com.

And we'll see you next week. Bye!