Tea at Four - Paypigs, toenails and spit - Adult creator reveals how she makes her money

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

We have a spicy episode today with Adult creator Latiesha Jones, who joins Lauren and Christie to discuss how she makes her big bucks every month. She explains how she found her 'paypigs', how... she has to treat them and why they like to be financially dominated. She also makes more money by selling all sorts of wild things, including her spit and her braids. She even reveals her clients with video game and toenail fetishes…Latiesha also feels strongly about teaching women to do this safely, how you can set your boundaries and how she vets her ‘piggies’.If you have any guests you’d like to see on the podcast, let us know in the comments! Or DM us on @teaatfourpod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I sell my toenails and that person uses it as salt and puts it on his food and eats it. Hi guys, welcome back to T4. I'm Lauren. I'm Christie and this is the podcast where we talk all things that normally stay in a group chat. But not today because we are joined by a very special guest, Latisha. Literally. What egos have you got? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
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Starting point is 00:00:41 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? I was super excited. I was on your Instagram, it's TikTok this morning actually. And I saw one of your clients made literally 300 pound before nine. Nine AM this morning, yeah. Right, so yeah, so let's give some context. Yeah, because.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Let's give some context. Who are you and what do you do? How have you got clients making 10, 10, 10 grand before 10 AM? 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, perfect. So my name is Letitia Jones and I, I don't really have like a general like title really. I just say that I sell word things online and I do own a webcommentary but with the premise of our conversation today
Starting point is 00:01:16 it's mainly more about selling. So I have a group of like nearly 3000 women who also sell with me as well all over the world. Yeah, there is a lot. So that is why you're seeing the girl who made 300 pounds before 9 a.m. this morning, 10 a.m. this morning. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And also on your TikTok, I see that you stayed at a 2000 pound a night hotel room. So you must be a very successful, you are. I love a good hotel room. So you've obviously made a really successful career out of this. What roads led you to here? So when I was 18, I started doing OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I was in uni, obviously broke as hell. And I was thinking, there's gotta be some way we can do something that is a lot easier than my degree. I was thinking, I can't do this anymore. So I started doing OnlyFans, and then it quickly just kind of progressed into just like all the different avenues, and because of like the fees and stuff
Starting point is 00:02:14 that OnlyFans take, and because of the fact that- They have fees. Yeah, yeah, they take 20% of everything. Eh? Yeah. So that's basically the tax man. No, so that's the platform, and then the tax man is separate. Okay. It's double the tax man. No, so that's the platform and then the tax money separate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This is double tax. Right. Sub-over-the-side. Noted. So I wanted to try and venture into ways where like I could do it and kind of cut them out. So I didn't really speak, like have to give them any money. So I started dancing in a strip club
Starting point is 00:02:42 and my regular customer, he one day was in VIP and he said, oh, can I give you 200 pounds and you give me your stockings? And I was like, yeah, of course, what do you want them for? What? What do you want them for? And he was like, like to sniff them. And I was like, ooh, all right, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So I genuinely didn't think he was gonna give me this 200 quid for it, but he did. He gave me the 200 pounds and then that's, yeah. Here's the 200 quid. And then he basically that whole time in VIP, we just spoke about the fact that like, there is so many other people who have these kind of like fetishes and like to smell and eat
Starting point is 00:03:22 and do weird things with stuff. Yeah. Eat. Yeah, maybe it's a bit early for the eat and stuff. She's got all her words jumbled up. She's gonna go for the hard ones first. Right, so aside from this instance, what are, they're called paypigs, right?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yes. So what is a paypig? Are there different levels of how hard you go on them? Yeah, so a pay pig is like, it's in a area of the adult industry called Find On, which is financial domination. So a pay pig is in that dynamic. So basically what it is,
Starting point is 00:03:59 it's somebody who is a submissive, usually a man, and their kink is rooted in the fact that they are, just like humiliation, it's embarrassment. They get a kick from just giving, completely submitting to the woman financially. So they will just give, give, give, and you don't really have to give anything back at all. You only engage with them really
Starting point is 00:04:20 when you're having the session, which is when you take their money, which is called a drain. So you don't have to engage with them outside of that session. There are different levels of doms, which is the woman. So I'm a soft dom. So I cannot be like a really hard dom.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Like I can't really be, I mean, some of the things I say are quite nasty, but I can't. But I'm not like really nasty. of things I say are quite nasty, but I can't. But I'm not like really nasty. So my dom technique is through kind of being really emotional with them and kind of just making them fall in love with me so then they just give me everything.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Question, so like, do you have to like get into character? Do you have like an alter ego? So you see how there's Beyonce and then she's got Sasha Fierce. So what is yours like to get into that emotional state that you've drained money out of? So it's kind of weird because obviously my name, where I come from at home,
Starting point is 00:05:13 like my name is very unusual being Letitia. So when I was in the strip club, everyone who was around me, they had different names. So that kind of given them their alter ego. But whenever I was in the strip club, I was just Letitia. So, but people would say to me, what's your name? I'd say, oh, Letitia, they'd say, no, but what's your real name?
Starting point is 00:05:29 So I feel like that is kind of embedded into me anyway. So I don't have like a complete separate thing. And I also think because of the fact that I'm a soft dom as well, I don't really have to go like full away from who I actually am. Because I am very like strong-willed, very level-headed, like strong-minded woman anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So I feel like it kind of just comes hand in hand with me as a person. But most of the time, if I was to be like a really hard dom, then I would have to completely separate. I think I'd struggle with that. I would need like a completely different person. I'd need a whole latex, everything. I'd need it all to get into it.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But I think it just comes quite natural to me. And in terms of like deciding that you're gonna clock in, clock in on this, like you're at uni, you start doing this online. When did it actually start like taking off where you could actually have a whole income from this? So I think, so it's been what, like five years now? I think probably like for me personally,
Starting point is 00:06:28 I think probably like this two year mark really was when I was like, all right, okay, like I couldn't quit my job. I'm effing uni off, I'm not doing that anymore. So I used to work at Tesco as well. So I was still at Tesco and at uni. So I just thought, you know what, like this job is taking over and it's seeping into the time
Starting point is 00:06:46 that I've got for everything else. I need to just get rid of the other things. So that's when I was like, I can't do any of them anymore. So I quit Tesco, quit uni. And then I just went all in, all in. She's fucking a god. She's like, wow. So we have to ask the big question.
Starting point is 00:07:04 How much profit have you made from having pay pigs? Let's say in the last like, since the 1st of January, let's say, this last seven, six months. So profit probably around about 60,000 pounds in the last. Right, that's it, I quit. I quit. Is there spare?
Starting point is 00:07:23 There is actually. Oh. Oh. What do you mean? What do you mean? Yeah, wow. Right, let's just sit with that first, I think. Yeah. 60,000 pounds. And then that's not considering the other things
Starting point is 00:07:35 that you sell. Yeah. And so within that other realm of things that you're selling to people, how much would you say you've made from that? I've already paid my taxes this year, it's fine. And they already know. to people, how much would you say you've made from that? I've already paid my taxes this year, it's fine. They already know.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So probably about two more times of the 60K, so just add it on again. No, let's fucking go. So saying if I wanted to make 120,000 pound a year, we wanted to make 120,000 pound a year income. Selling things, what could we sell? Anything, absolutely anything and everything that comes into it.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Anything like what? Socks, shoes, knickers, bras, gym clothes, toothbrush heads, waxing strips, old razors, your hair. I just took out my braids. Eyelash it. Now, if you wanna talk about braids, and that is one of the things that is the most expensive thing that I sell.
Starting point is 00:08:28 What? Which is the only reason I get them done, because they sell. What is, do you think like the hair from the scalp? The smell from the scalp? It's the smell. Oh my, around. Bubby loves a smelly scalp.
Starting point is 00:08:40 She could be your next customer. Oh my days. People get it. Oh my days. People get it. Oh my God. Yeah, it's the smile, the hair, yeah. What do you think it is about men that like this like smelly, buddly fluids items from a woman?
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, I don't want any of my customers to think I think they're weird. Love you. I just think, I don't know what it is. I think it is maybe like a trauma from like childhood or something. I don't, I think there's obviously a psychology, a reasoning for it.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And I think a lot of like arousal comes from different senses. Is there any like age, common age of clients? No, no, no, it's so vast, so vast. Like age, ethnicity, background, job, profession, completely vast. So could they be from like anywhere, not just based in the UK?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh yeah, no, you can sell to anyone all over the world. Oh, amazing. Yeah. It just gets a bit more difficult if it's outside of the UK, especially if you're anonymous, because obviously with postage and stuff. Oh my God, yeah, so when you go to the post office, and they're like, what have you got in there?
Starting point is 00:09:46 And you're like, all my pissy knickers. Yeah. Sorry, not assuming that you do sell pissy knickers. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, but I actually really wanna know, what's the most common fetish you get asked to send or? Me personally now, I only work with five customers.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So I have five clients, two of them are pay pigs and three of them are people who buy my weird things. So I've worked with them for two years consecutively with just them. On average, the most like common thing I would probably say is anything foot related and any kind of sweaty item, like clothing, gym wear, any kind of lingerie, underwear, whatever,
Starting point is 00:10:26 those are very common items. Face masks are a common item as well. Any kind of fluid, spit, pee, shower water, bath water, those kind of things. Bath water, that's so salt burn. Wow. Thinking all of the things we've made to go to waste now. Like those toenails, that bath I ran last week. Joke, and I live in London, I don't have a bath. Oh, thinking all of the things we've made to go to waste now. Literally.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Those toenails, that bath I ran last week. Joke, and I live in London, I don't have a bath. I need to do what you do. Yeah. Wait, so what's the biggest single one-off payment that you've had from one of these items that you've sold? So the most expensive thing I've sold is my spit. That was 1,500 for just under 100 mil vial,
Starting point is 00:11:04 like, you know, the travel size ones. And you're not scared you'll get put on like a crime scene or clones or like use DNA, like? We're in 2025. Yeah. The police actually do a good job sometimes. No, look at your TikTok and be like, yeah. I think I'm safe.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I always get this question all the time on TikTok. But I always say, if when somebody buys something from someone, you give your DNA to anyone, even if you do it on Vint, even if you sell on Vinted, any kind of selling, any connection with anyone, coming into contact with anyone,
Starting point is 00:11:35 you're passing your DNA. Me walking outside now, brush past my hair, my DNA is there. So it's not gonna happen. And there's never just like two people's DNA at a crime scene, like the victim and the perpetrator. There's always millions more DNA that the police have to see through.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And say like, I sent my spit to Scotland and it got pulled on a crime scene and then the police came, oh, hi, your spit's here. All right, well, I sent it to John in Scotland, so that's where it is. That's why. Do you know what they do with it? I don't usually ask.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I always have a rough idea. Like I know what they do with it? I don't usually ask. I always have a rough idea. Like I know what they're using it for. It's usually like, if it's like a liquid, then they're usually pouring it on the down below to do their business. Then sometimes they will drink things. I sell my toenails and that person who has my toenails, he crushes it, like grinds it in a pot.
Starting point is 00:12:24 What is it called? Them fucking things. Pestle and mortar., he crushes it, like grinds it in a pot, what is it called them fucking, them things? Pestle and mortar. Yeah, that's it. Mortar and pestle. Yeah. What is it? Pestle and mortar. We get the gist.
Starting point is 00:12:32 One of them. Yeah, a grind. And he grinds it up and he uses it as salt and puts it on his food and eats it. And cut. The lady was too stunned to speak. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Oh. Okay, okay, cool. Hold on, hold on, wait a minute. Do you realize you like tone-out salt? Yeah. I don't know. With, is it Findom? Yeah, Findom.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Do you set your own boundaries of what you all do and what you won't? Yes. I say with anything you have to, with anything in this industry, whether you're selling an item or you're doing Findom, you have to set your own boundaries because men will try whatever they can try.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So you have to be strong-willed and you have to say this is what goes on. If not, then see you later. Because I always say somebody will come round and they will completely respect every boundary that you have, so you need to set them at the beginning and set them firm. If somebody wants to push your boundaries,
Starting point is 00:13:26 then see you later, you move on to the next person. But yeah, you have to set them at the beginning and say what you are okay with, what you're not okay with, what you wanna talk about. So with Fyndham specifically, when you get in an arrangement with a pay pig, the first thing you really should be doing is setting a contract at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Oh wow, interesting. Yeah. And that's like, is that tailored to the specific person? Yeah, so every person will have a slightly different contract because say like the times of when you engage with that pay pig will be different for each of them because obviously everyone's schedules will be different.
Starting point is 00:13:58 The amount of money that you agree on to drain in a certain time will be in that contract. So obviously every person's budget is different. So all of that will be set into the contract at the beginning so you can. I have one question. Please me. So is there like consultations?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, yeah, basically. Yeah, it basically is. And do you run all of them yourself or do you have like a assistant or like? So I have two admins who work with me now. Wow. But I, with my arrangements, I do all of that in the beginning with them first.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Right. I guess that's actually like something I thought was a thing. So they don't have access to you at all times. Oh no, absolutely not. Okay. No, I'd be a trillionaire if you did, because it would be expensive.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. Do you have any female pay pics? No. It's not really, it's not a thing. Really? I just really don't think it's a thing. Why, do you think? Because I just feel like women just wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:14:55 we just would never, I'm not giving no money to somebody else. I feel like women hold money in a way that is different to men. And I feel like a lot of women, they know what they bring to the table and it doesn't have to be money for us. So I just, no, you don't,
Starting point is 00:15:13 you get some women who will be customers and who will buy with things on like the websites that we use, but I've never come across a woman who's a pay pig or even eludes to the fact that they would possibly be. strange, I don't know. I mean, who knows, it might be, if someone is then. Can you let me know? I'll be happy to have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, so does everyone, does every pay pig always want something in exchange or can some people just be sending the money purely to send the money? Yeah, so pay pig engagement in situations, there isn't really an exchange. The exchange is the act of the pay pig giving you the money,
Starting point is 00:15:55 and what you give to them is by receiving it, by taking it off them, they feel humiliated, embarrassed, whatever, and that's what they get off from. It's not technically you having an hour conversation with them, because you would never. Like my pay pig, you're not allowed to ask what I'm doing, you're not allowed to ask where I am,
Starting point is 00:16:10 what I'm doing with the money, it's none of your business, we don't have to have that conversation. I just say, you don't even say thanks, what's gonna say, I say thanks, no, I don't, I would literally be sticking my mouth. Right, if I did that. I would absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You just said, oh yeah, I'm a soft, and then she's like, I don't say, I don't say thanks. Oh my God. I slid it. You just said, oh yeah, she's a, I'm a soft. And then she said, I don't say. And I said, thanks. Oh my God. I'm just drinking. Some of them want praise. So I think some of them want praise. So praise is like the most you go like,
Starting point is 00:16:34 oh, you're such a good pig. Oh, I love praise. I think that's what I would want if I was a pig. I think everyone's got a slight praise kink, a little one. So that would be the most you would do. Like you would be like, oh, you're such a good little piggy, and then, but it's not really that much, is it? So you can do better.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Then they would send more. Really? That's like manipulating, but in a very good way. I told you I'm a soft arm. Oh wow. When you got into this, did you have a mentor? How did you learn the ways? Oh no, I just literally trial and error, got scammed, literally wasted all my time, stress.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Nearly gave up a hundred million times, but here I am. So it was definitely a journey. Like in my head, I'm thinking, if I was to get into it, I need to think of a price list. Like here are my quotes. Yeah, there is a lot to think of, which is why I like do the mental bit that I do as well with the girls who work for me.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So I've kind of covered all of that basis for them. So then they don't have to think about all the things that I had to think about in the beginning. So their profit is faster. So they make money quicker than what I did. Cause I mean, shit, life is getting hard. Nobody's got six years to wait to make some money these days.
Starting point is 00:17:41 We want it now. So basically it's like a fast track to actually learning everything properly and being able to work on it and make money. But you do have to have everything like priceless. You have to obviously with pricing like that comes with experience as well. So you have to like a spectrum broadly in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And then obviously you can increase that as you wish. Obviously if you're anonymous, then your pricing will be slightly lower because they're not seeing you. So there is a lot of things that go into it. Okay, so like, okay cool. So you send these things, right? Do you ever get like, okay,
Starting point is 00:18:16 because for me I'm just like, okay cool, I've sent XYZ to XYZ, or ABCD, I'm so regarded right now. What if you bump into these people on the road? I don't know who they are. But then they know your face, right? Yeah. Are they all anonymous?
Starting point is 00:18:33 She's just like, huh. I know, like I know my customers now. Like I would notice them and like if I was like wherever they were. Yeah. But like in the past, no, like you don't know. And like when the girls who work with me, they join the websites and they sell it.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You don't know who you're selling to. Obviously you know their name and their details, but like unless they send a picture of themselves, sometimes they do, you don't know. And there is like a billion people in the world. If you're anonymous, you don't get much, you can't pay, you can't get, or you can't sell. Well, you can.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You can sell, but then you won't get as much as if you're in the, I don't know if I'm trying to say, I'm still from the class, to be honest. So being anonymous in the grand scheme of things doesn't necessarily hinder the amount of money that you can make. Some people like it, some people don't like it, and that's just how it is.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Some people like you even if you're not anonymous, and some people don't like you. So it doesn't make a difference to your earnings really. And you still can be, you can still get really good spending customers. I say, as long as you are showing your personality, you are just being yourself, just not speaking to them like they're any different
Starting point is 00:19:38 to a normal person, you'll be fine. Right. And is there anything you'll be like, no, not sending that? Yeah, so I got somebody who asked for my sick. Oh my fucking God. Maybe I should have trigger wards that. Yeah, emetaphobias.
Starting point is 00:19:52 That is mental and you're like, not for me. I said absolutely not. Why did that come, did they have a list of like, they'd run out of everything else, so they were like, what's left? It's a word, it's actually a really popular thing. A metaphylia. Yes. Oh, a metaphylia.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Interesting. I've got the phobia, but not the feel. That's crazy. Yeah, so I was like, no. Right, and we've obviously just discussed before filming, I was gonna ask about dating, but what does your partner think of this? So he, when we got together,
Starting point is 00:20:26 I was already doing all this anyway, so everyone already knew I've always been very open with it, so it's never been a secret that I do this job. I think with guys especially, we didn't start our relationship like wanting to be in a relationship. It was very just like a casual thing. And I think when you are so open
Starting point is 00:20:45 in the adult industry on social media, I think people have a certain view that like, you not wife material, like no one will ever take you seriously, all that kind of thing. So I feel like they don't then take the chance to actually get to know you as who you actually are. So it just kind of progressed in a relationship in that way.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But he doesn't care. Like I think as long as you're very open and honest, I've never kept a secret, my boundaries are airtight, there is no crossing them. If I don't wanna do something, I'm not doing it. If he's not comfortable with something, I'm not doing it. So you've just gotta have proper good mutual respect and understanding and an open-minded partner, really.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. Which we all should have. Secure king. Yeah, I love that. Do your clients know that you're in partner really. Yeah. Yeah. Which we all should have. Secure king. Yeah. Love that. Do your clients know that you're in a relationship? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:29 So have they ever asked like, they want something from the both of you guys? Or they've just been like, yeah, so they have done. Cheeky. Yeah, to know from me. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I mean, some girls who work for me, they sell a part of stuff. And guys, stuff actually sells really well. Boxes, socks, et cetera, that sells really well. Always. Wow. That was harmonized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I know it sounds a bit bleak, because it's not bleak and you're doing amazing right now, but is this something you see yourself doing forever? No, no. I feel like I'm not kind of the person to wanna set myself doing one thing forever anyway. So even whatever avenue I would have gone down, I don't think I would have done it forever.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But I think there's a lot of potential. I'm seeing this, my stuff right now, just as like catapults get somewhere else faster. Like I want more properties, I want more houses, I want bigger businesses. Like I don't wanna be working at all in general when I'm older. So I'm just kind of using this as a way to propel that
Starting point is 00:22:36 so it's faster. Yeah, smart. Is there anything arousal wise out of it for you? Or is it purely detached? I'm detached, yeah. I think when, obviously when I get paid, like, or like when like my sugar daddy or something sends me something like 5,000 pounds
Starting point is 00:22:55 at the beginning of the month, I'm like, oh. But other than that, like, it is what it is. Really? Yeah. So it's nothing sexual? Oh, no. Like, at all? No. Wow. Do you know what, it's crazy, because I feel like when you is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:23:13 I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what is this? I'm like, what partner, nothing. Not even like a little nude picture of my boobs, no nothing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:30 No, you don't have to, you literally don't have to. See, it doesn't sell like that. If you look at it online, you're thinking they're definitely doing all their art. Yeah, I think that's the thing. So the fact that I'm here and I'm just like, interesting. Yeah, I guess our outside perspective of like only fans creators,
Starting point is 00:23:45 general adult sex creators online, do you find yourself being painted with that brush? Like, especially with the negative stuff she's been coming out with recently. Yeah, so I think we've, you're talking about Bonnie Blue. Bonnie Blue, did I say Bonnie Blue? No. Oh, sorry, I thought it in my brain.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I don't even need to say, I know you to be honest. Yeah, I know, I know it in my brain. We don't even need to say it, I know you, to be honest. Yeah, I know, I can't, I knew the word, where were we going? Yeah. So I think it sometimes annoys me, to be fair, that what I do is still under the umbrella of sex work. Hate the word sex work, so that's why I usually say adult industry,
Starting point is 00:24:20 because it broadens the spectrum. So I don't like that it gets put into there because it isn't like as outward as what she does. And I also think that there's something psychologically not right with her. However, I think she knows how to rage bait. She knows how to get the view. She knows how to get the something.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So I do think she's a very, very smart business woman. Absolutely. And she's obviously raking it in. So I think she's just seeing the pound signs and she's not bothered by anything else. However, negatively, it does impact everybody in the industry. And then we all get painted with the same brush
Starting point is 00:24:59 that we all just have no morals and no respect for ourselves and no nothing when that is not the case literally at all. So I do think she is having a negative impact on the industry, but I don't think she cares because she's making her own money, isn't she? She's not making money for everyone else. So in her head, it probably doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:25:17 for what the general thing is that she's doing. I don't agree with it at all, to be fair. And I don't know anyone who works in the industry that actually does agree with it. Yeah. Really? Hmm. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I was gonna ask, that being said, like, how do you, do your family, in regards to like personal, how do your family see what you do? Do they support it or are you still close with your family members? Yeah, so all my family know, everyone's very just, oh, it's whatever, as long as you're safe and you're not on the street corner,
Starting point is 00:25:52 like doing some crazy stuff. As long as you're looking after yourself and you're doing it in a safe way, they're fine. The only person, whoever I had a problem with, it was my mum. And then we didn't speak for six years. So we were completely estranged due to my job because she didn't understand it at all,
Starting point is 00:26:06 but she also didn't want to even try to understand it. So she in her head was tunnel visioned that like I was sleeping with random men, I was doing crazy stuff. Even though when I started OnlyFans in the first place, it was only content anyway, like I'd never met anybody, but she just couldn't see the actual logistics of it. She just tunnel vision to the worst
Starting point is 00:26:26 of the worst possible thing. But everyone else, fine, supportive. Everyone I've ever spoken to, ever met really has been fine. Obviously people have questions in their own opinions. Like my nan's 86, she was like, can you tell me what it is again that you do? I'm like, no, I just speak to men online and they send me some money, all right. So sometimes you've just got to tell them
Starting point is 00:26:48 what they need to know. But in general scheme overall, I've never had that bad of an experience like with anyone about it. No, like I've got twin sister, she loves it. She's- Yeah. Oh, this is a sign I'm having twins guys.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Anything is a sign, because she's having twins. We love it. That's amazing. Does she, she doesn't do anything within this industry? No. No. No. No, I always say, do you want to try?
Starting point is 00:27:13 And she's like, she would literally like quiver on the spot. She would literally like just break down, turn into water. Oh God. She could never. What is like, so you obviously document all of this stuff on TikTok, as well as obviously doing the service. What would like, so you obviously document all of this stuff on TikTok, as well as obviously doing the service.
Starting point is 00:27:27 What would you say is the most common question people ask about your profession? Most commonly people ask is, is it actually legit? People always ask me, is this actually real? Because I feel like, because especially in my sector, it's not very well known. Obviously everyone knows about OnlyFans and selling content and stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:47 but people don't know usually this is an area of the industry as well. So they get a bit worried that it's not actually real. So that's one. I also get all the time, if you can be anonymous and if you can make money anonymously, which you can. And what's another one? Usually, oh, the crime scene one.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, it's done now, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's jokes. Yeah, they're usually the most common things. Yeah. I think, cause obviously, even though this sounds amazing, it sounds like what you do, like you're raking it in great.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I think the back of my head, cause I'm a panic all right. I'd be probably thinking, I'll be worrying about, is there financial risk? Am I exploiting people? Like how do those questions ever pop in your head, because I'm a panic all right. I'd be probably thinking, I'll be worried about is there financial risk? Am I exploiting people? Like how do those questions ever pop in your head? How do you? Yeah, cool, so like sometimes you do, like especially with a pay pig, like they will say,
Starting point is 00:28:35 like, oh, I've got, this is the last 500 pounds in my bank account, queen, like I've just given it to you. I've got no food for the rest of the month or whatever. So it, being a nice just given it to you, I've got no food for the rest of the month or whatever. So, being a nice woman, it is sometimes hard to disconnect and to say I'm doing a service because also they could just be lying. Oh, do they do that?
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yes. So they could be like, oh, this is the last amount of money. Like it is a role play situation, so it's not real. So you have to think in your head, it's not real. Obviously sometimes they will say, like I've got no more money, like, and I'm like, well, tough, find it.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Cause you have to be like that, that's what they signed up for. But sometimes it is like, you always have that little niggle, like, oh, I feel a bit bad. Like it is a lot of money. But then that's why in the beginning of the service, you have to vet the person. how much money they have what they have
Starting point is 00:29:27 to spend what they what they what bills and whatever they've got so that is why you do that to cover your back because you'll set like an amount of money that you would then get from that person over that month obviously everyone's got their own budgets and stuff and but you there's always a little in the back of your mind thinking like, oh, poor guy. That would be my downfall. But he said that, oh my God. No. But.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, especially with some items like bed sheets and stuff or like pillowcases and whatever. Like I feel really bad. I'm like, oh, he's really lonely. Like he's put my pillowcase on his bed and he's like cuddling it to sleep. I'm like, oh. Then he could be wanking into it.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, and then I'm like, what a fucking weirdo. I'm kidding my girl. So you've got to snap yourself out of it, but there is always that second bit of conscious, like. Is there like safe words or anything like that if they like really want to say, no, I actually am fucking strapped for cash? Yeah, so like you'll, if say like my pay pick said like,
Starting point is 00:30:22 genuinely like I literally have no money at all, like I can't do it. Then I would understand the change in the tone anyway. Because it wouldn't be our normal arrangement like how we normally would speak. But then also if it's a pay pig in particular and they didn't have any money, then they just would never message me until you had money. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Because you're a pay pig, I don't wanna hear from you if you don't have the money because then otherwise you're just a pig. And that is men. I'm really curious, what does, can you give us an example of like how the conversation would go? So with my main pig in particular, I will.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Number one. My number one, please. He knows he's number one pig and he pays for that. Let me find, he's called Sam. Hey Sammy boy, real name or alias? No, that's his real name. Oh nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:15 So my conversation with Sam, if I want something, I literally just send the receipt and I will say, sort it piggy and then he will say, then he replied saying, sent it, sent a little mug on us, treat, treated you all to a drink tomorrow. So he paid for my Beach Club tab when I was with my friends. So he, it was 409 but he rounded it up to 500 so then we could get extra drinks. Yeah nice. So to my friends that are listening to this podcast, and I'm sure you guys are subscribed
Starting point is 00:31:50 and push and share this clip, this episode, yes? Yeah. This is what you need to be doing. This is the thing. Please don't thank you. Yeah, like he can't ask me a question. Like he asked me, what are you doing tonight? You know you don't ask me questions. Oh yes, of course. I'm so sorry, goddess. Please forgive me a question. He asked me, what are you doing tonight? You know you don't ask me questions.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Oh yes, of course, I'm so sorry goddess. Please forgive me. Wow. You have to set what you are all right with. I don't want him to ask me questions about what I'm doing in my life so he doesn't ask me questions. And you have to always make sure
Starting point is 00:32:18 that you're reaffirming that no, can't do it. Because guys will push boundaries and a lot of time, if you're not strong-minded and you don't think you need to do it, some people will let the boundaries slip. And I think that's where a lot of people go wrong sometimes because especially with a pay pig, they want a strong-willed woman, that's what they want.
Starting point is 00:32:37 They don't wanna be in line. Yeah, if they like humiliation, would the fact you coming on this podcast, talking about it. Oh yeah, loves it. Wow. Nice one, Sam. Hey, big number one. Do you ever like, okay, you see, so you've got three different phones, right? Do you ever find yourself speaking to like your friends
Starting point is 00:32:55 in the turn down you just stick up? I'm like, wait, hold on, excuse me. I'm trying to say like, oh, sorry, sorry. So where's your piece of pie? Yeah, sometimes like if I've got like a really busy day or something, like there was one time I was in Tesco and I was doing a like a voice note and it was to one of my pigs,
Starting point is 00:33:14 but I was just literally berating him to be honest. And then I was in Tesco and then I thought, shit, I'm in Tesco. Like there's people behind me that has just heard me calling me slimy little turd. And literally I'm doing Tesco. Like there's people behind me that has just heard me calling me a fucking slimy little turd and they're literally, I'm doing my food shopping. But it is, you do do, you do do it where like you'll speak to your friends in the same way
Starting point is 00:33:32 or like you'll send them a message and you'll be like, oh shit, wrong person. Oh my God, I did not mean that. That's amazing. Wow. Yeah, so it is hard, especially if you've got like loads of things going on and you're really busy. Just do it at home in your bedroom and don't go outside.
Starting point is 00:33:50 That's mental. For someone that wants to like get into it, not saying that I, anyway, what would you recommend the best number of people to, how many pay pics should you start with? Also, how do you find them? Yeah. So with pay pics, when you first,
Starting point is 00:34:05 usually, like everyone would say now, like, oh, Twitter X is the best place. No, it's not. It used to be the place, it did used to be the place where you do literally find anything. Like three years ago, you used to literally break it in on X,
Starting point is 00:34:17 but it doesn't work in that way anymore. Because of social media evolving, there was a lot more scammers and a lot more like AI people and whatever. So a lot of things is fake. So you have to use designated websites for this. So literally on Google there is loads. And then the websites, they will vet the people
Starting point is 00:34:34 and make sure that they are legitimate and they're doing this for the right reasons. And then you go from there really. I think with pigs especially, it's not really about finding them. It's about you portraying yourself in a way that will make them find you. Because you, as you're a goddess, you don't need them.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So you're not gonna make the first move. They have to find you. So you need to advertise yourself in a way that will allow them to understand that she is a goddess. Wow. Woo woo woo. Stab. You know how fast you were going.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I'm gonna have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Neeson. Buy your tickets now and get a free chili dog. Chili dog not included. The Naked God tickets on sale now, August 1st. How does one be a goddess? Yeah, get your latex out queens, get your heels on,
Starting point is 00:35:26 put your feet on the floor. Like I've got a video on my TikTok and I'm in a hotel and I've got my lubes on and it's like from the down at the bottom and I put my phone down there and I'm literally just drinking champagne and it's just my, the bottom of my heels. And that would show that you are powerful and that you are a dominant woman.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Well, see, I don't think I could do that because my boyfriend says my heels feel walked on. So do you have to have nice feet to do this? Oh no, no. Do they like the worst feet? Yes, sometimes guys actually do like the worst feet. And then that obviously will allow you to then get more because you can say, well, you can make them look pretty.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You can give me the money and then I'll go and get a head. Upselling. Yes, I think you'd be good. and give me the money and then I'll go and get a page. Upselling. Yes! I think you'd be good. Yeah, I've got to reverse psychology it. Right. So I'll probably just be laughing like. Yeah, but they don't see that.
Starting point is 00:36:17 No, you're just laughing your finger then just go, okay, now I can reply. Wow. Just gotta get yourself in. Did you just do this sober when you first started this? Or did you need a couple of drinks? Oh no, I was pissed every day when I first started. Not a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's courage. It is a lot. I saw one of your TikToks where you spat into an Ugg shoe. Oh yes, that had, he wanted me to eat some crisps. I think they were salt and vinegar, French fries, and then spit them into my Uggs and then I sold them. I mean, they were good in the bit and they had to make them worse. His favorite crisps were salt and vinegar, French fries, and then spit them into my Uggs and then I sold them. I mean, they were going in the bin, they had to make them worse. His favorite crisp with salt and vinegar,
Starting point is 00:36:49 so I actually did something nice. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. What a life. What a life. And did they have to buy the Ugg shoes in the first place
Starting point is 00:36:58 or did you just have them? Oh, no, I already had them. Right. But they have to re-buy it, so they have to purchase the shoe from me. Amazing. And the service and then the postage and then the acts of me doing it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Wow. Do you film it? Yeah. So you film it and send the item? Yeah. Amazing. So I usually film it obviously just for TikTok but then I'll put it on the invoice to them.
Starting point is 00:37:23 So then they will also get the video as well if they want it. Wow. What a service. Like she's catering for all. Literally everything. How did you get your like five pay pigs though? So like what's the longevity of that?
Starting point is 00:37:36 What's the turnover? So two of my five customers are pay pigs, two of them. So I have got an arrangement with them and every like four months we will go over the arrangement and see if it's still working, if they obviously still have enough money to keep it going. But it's been two years now, so. I don't think we're going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Do they not have high paying jobs? So I am very expensive, so mine do. Period. That's a shame, so mine do. So mine do because I expect a certain amount of money and out of the service. But there is varying like, obviously amounts that a pay pig will have to give.
Starting point is 00:38:16 There are a lot of pay pigs that are just like, oh send you 20 quid here and there. And that is normal when you begin your journey. So if you just start as a dom, like that, to have 20, 30, 40 quid every now and again, that's a lot and little things do add up. So like with our group, with the girls who work with me, I always say like, we need to like be really appreciative
Starting point is 00:38:34 of our wins now because that will allow you then to grow and make more money and charge more. But everyone has different budgets and stuff. So once you're six years in, you'll be able to charge what I charge. Wow. It's fucking amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I think, no, genuinely. And that's why I was so keen to get you on this podcast because we are in a cost of living crisis. Yes. And money as a whole is a massive taboo for women. I think we are ashamed to talk about things like this, but I think it's quite inspiring that you're so unapologetic actually.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, it just is what it is. I've been broke, I've been in debt. I've had a bloody Bayley's knocking on the door for my Eon, that's electric debt. It's like- Oh, I hate Eon, you need to flip in it. Eon are literally dogs, but it is like, life is hard and it's not getting any easier.
Starting point is 00:39:24 So I'm just grateful that I started when I did because it wasn't as hard as it is like life is hard and it's not getting any easier. So I'm just grateful that I started when I did because it wasn't as hard as it is now. Which is why I think that I have kind of moved into the more like teaching space. So then girls don't have to wait so long to be able to actually make money. They can do it straight away. We don't have time these days.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like we need convenience and I need things done now. Exactly. No shout out you because you know, anybody else could be doing this and not like want to help. Yeah. Where people trying to, but the fact that you're like, listen, I got a community, we're gonna.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, we're gonna do it. I love that. Yeah, and we all do it together and everyone celebrates each of us wins. And we're all just, I think with women, like women thrive with community spaces and having such nice people around you. So a lot of the women who work with me,
Starting point is 00:40:06 like they don't obviously tell their immediate friends or immediate family because they are anonymous. So it gives them that space where they're able to connect with the same women who do the same stuff. And like, if they're worried about anything or if they need like help or whatever, then they've got it there. And it is just really nice
Starting point is 00:40:20 because we genuinely just want everyone to make money and actually do nice things. Like it's so nice when someone will message me and they'll be like, oh, like I finally been able to pay this or I've been able to book this and like not have to worry about anything or like I paid this debt off or something.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And it is just such a nice feeling because it's such a struggle in this economy right now. So we need all the help. Question, is there like, so could you like start and then drop out of it? Once you're in, you're in? Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, of course. We're our own beings. You can do whatever the hell you wanna do. You can begin and then sometimes it might not be for you or maybe you started one avenue but you need to look at a different one because that one isn't working. So with me, like I give, when the girls work with me,
Starting point is 00:41:02 I give them every option that you can do and then they pick what they wanna try. If they're struggling, then they can try something else. If they don't wanna do it at all, then they don't do it. Some people might just do it for like two months to make whatever money they need, and then they don't do it again. So you can go.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's not often that people stay for as long as me, really. What's the sort of, like if someone's done it and tried it, and then they've used their face and stuff and then they wanna like kind of go back into a normal job. Digital footprint is real. Yeah. Like what's the process there? Is that ever an issue?
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's not really an issue. I think in this day and age, a lot of things is more accepted as long as you're just not bringing it into the workplace. Like there's been women who obviously have got jobs afterwards and like the work know about this job or that they've done it and whatever. I think you just need to, it needs to be done with. Like I think it'll be hard to kind of do both.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Especially if it's like a professional job. Like I've got a really close friend and she used to do OnlyFans. She's literally only just finished it, but she still did OnlyFans and she had a sales job. So her job knew, but I think obviously like if it was a proper professional job, then you wouldn't be able to do that. So I think I always say to the girls,
Starting point is 00:42:20 if you've got something in your head that you really wanna do, like if someone comes to me in the university and they wanna be a teacher or something, I say, you listen, you need to really think if it is worth doing this and putting it out there, because that will affect that job. So I am very open and honest,
Starting point is 00:42:36 if I don't think someone should be doing it and they come to me and ask, I'll say, trust me, I don't think you should be doing it. That's a good mentor. Yeah. And is there demand for everyone? All your 3000? Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there's literally demand for everyone.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I think people don't realize how many men actually do this. Like one of the websites you work on gets 13 million men to the website every month. Like there is thousands and thousands and thousands of customers. Oh my God, and are they all just wanting quite like tame things or does it go bigger than just like the shoes and the nails?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, it goes bigger. And like when, to be fair, when you get on there, like because of the platform specifically, it's there is people from all over the world and sellers from all over the world with different experiences. So you might go in there and you think I wanna be tame. I just wanna do foot stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And then there will be some crazy stuff on there. So I do tell the girls like, you need to like, just understand that there is lots of crazy things on there but that doesn't mean that you have to do it because you can do it and you can keep yourself tame. So it does definitely go a lot more higher but that's where you need to be able to pull yourself in. And if you can't, then that's what we're here for,
Starting point is 00:43:41 to help you keep things where you want it to be so you don't go down the slippery slope of just accepting anything for money because when you're in a desperate situation, a lot of the time women will just say, oh, I need 20 quid for this album, I'm just gonna do it. And I say, hold on a damn minute because you're gonna feel worse after you've done it
Starting point is 00:43:57 and then you're not gonna be happy that you've got the 20 quid. So you've gotta keep yourself. So we've got some questions from our audience and we'd love to share with you. Yeah. Oh my God. So the first one is,
Starting point is 00:44:11 do you have to build a stock of things before you sell them? Oh, I should have said that. I get this question a lot. I should have said what you asked. So no, because a lot of the things that you can sell in the beginning, you will already have socks, old slippers, dressing gowns, bedding, whatever. You will have a lot more than what you actually think
Starting point is 00:44:30 you can sell in your house. Like I do TikToks and I'm like, right, so I'm in my bedroom now, I can see all of these things that I can sell. So it gives people ideas of what they've got. I do say that if you wanna do like toenails or like spit or anything, you just need to go and get the pots to put them in
Starting point is 00:44:46 and that's it. But you can get them from like home bargains for like two pound. So you don't need like a whole wardrobe where they open it and there's knickers and stuff. And whatever. You just need like to understand what things you've got so you can just get them out.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. But I guess with the toenails, like once you're done with them, you've got to wait till they grow back, right? Yeah, so that's obviously like a duration. My toenails, every six weeks, I'll get them done. So if somebody wants two lots, then they have to wait the whole time.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Two lots of toenail salt, then. It's a six week wait. Wow. Some backlog, some backlog. Wow. So good. This one is, how do you make your feet content interesting enough to make money?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Or can I just upload the pictures and be done with it? So you need to think about what you're doing as a business. Don't just think about it as, oh, I wanna make some money, let's just take a picture of my feet right now. Like, don't be so boring, everybody will do that. You've gotta have a little bit of something different. So like, you need to just think of it
Starting point is 00:45:52 like really seriously like a business. And then think, right, okay, I'm doing some content now, what can I do? You could put some cream on your feet, you could rub it in, you could do a foot massage, you could do a crushing video, you could stand on a packet of crisps, you can stand on some food.
Starting point is 00:46:06 You could put oil on your toes. Like you could do a video painting them. Like there's so many things that you can do when you actually sit down and genuinely think about it. And it's a lot of things that you would do anywhere, but you just don't think about it as a service to give. Yeah, yeah. I'm literally gonna do this.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Right, I just wanna circle back around to something crashing. Cause this is like a thing I've found on TikTok. Can you explain a bit about what that is to be honest? So crushing, you literally just crush different types of items. And a lot of the time it's a kink for being like, it's called giant-esque kink. So basically where you are really, really big and the person is really small. And then also it kind of comes into like ASMR. They like the sound of crushing and whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Like I had one customer and he used to ask me to go to the shop and I would buy a packet of jelly babies and I would use the white jelly babies to represent him. I'd put it on the floor, my phone would be behind it and then I would like stand all the way behind so I'd look really, really big. And then I would be like, oh, look at you teeny tiny man,
Starting point is 00:47:13 I'm about to stamp all over you. And then I'd stand on it and crush him and I'd be like, oops. Yeah. I like food and stuff like that. Like they like sound, they like watching it. Like I've done like crushing with like mushy food and stuff like that. Like they like sound, they like watching it. Like I've done like crushing with like mushy peas and stuff and they like to see it come through your toes.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Like there's lots of reasons why that would make you a lot of money. Loads of different things. That generally made me want to joke. That used to, I literally had to like take 10 minutes to get myself into the zone. Cause I had to take seven million takes, I'm pissing myself laughing every time I'm out.
Starting point is 00:47:48 My sister's there and she's like, Tisha you need to get yourself together. And I'm like, I can't. What's one of the funniest ones that you found yourself like this is a fucking joke. Yeah, so that one probably. And then I've also had somebody who had a video game kink. And you know, think of a video game where you shoot someone and they, like think of like a video game where like you shoot someone
Starting point is 00:48:05 and they like splat on the floor or something. Like there was one guy, and he wanted me to position myself in a splat position, but like in different places in my house. So like splatted down the stairs, but like I think it was just funny because I obviously couldn't take the pictures myself. Like so I had to get my sister to come and I was like splatting on the floor on the stairs
Starting point is 00:48:31 and she was absolutely pissing herself off. And I was trying to keep a straight face and I was like, Leah you need to take a picture, you need to take a picture. She stood in front of me literally like dying. I was like, I need this fucking picture so we can move on to the next one. What the fuck do you like if you like splat pictures? I really don't know. I feel like at this point men just make a kink
Starting point is 00:48:50 out of literally anything. Yeah. I thought, I don't know if you guys know that the girl on TikTok, is NPC, ice cream so good. Yes. I thought that was weird. But the fact that you splat. No, that's also a kink.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So they will make a lot of money. Yes. Really? Yes. That's what they do. Was he at Fox? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I think so. You should get into it. You're actually really good. Oh. Should I just have a good voice? Yeah. That was a good answer. See, boy.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Hell no. That's the good one. Yeah, that was a good answer, see boys. Hell no. So that is it, that's the king. But that's more like social media-ized so then they can get away with making the money on social media by doing it without flagging that it is in the industry. So that is a very smart move. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Oh my God, yeah. Have you ever had it where someone's stolen your content? Oh, all the time. And then used that to sell on to people? Yeah, all the time. Oh, what do you do? So you have to do, you have to get like a takedown and you just have to, you have to pay a lot
Starting point is 00:49:52 to get lawyer, solicitor, send a cease and desist. Don't do that. And to be fair, especially since now that I sell like a guide to do it, I have that all the time. All the time. So like all of my stuff is copywritten to me. So especially with digital marketing being a thing now that everyone thinks, because I've got a guide to do it, I have that all the time. All the time. So like all of my stuff is copywritten to me. So especially with digital marketing being a thing now that everyone thinks, because I've got a guide
Starting point is 00:50:09 that means that everyone can sell my fucking guide. You can't. So it is hard sometimes, yeah. But people just, I give people the benefit of the doubt a lot because I'm like, oh, like she, people a lot of time don't know, they don't think about things like that. Wow. Okay, this next one from the audience is,
Starting point is 00:50:29 how do you price it up? So, and I was gonna ask that question as well. So if I'm just starting out and say, I'm like, yeah, let me try selling my feet pics, what's my starting point? You have to be realistic, obviously. You don't wanna set yourself too high in the beginning because somebody will know that you are new.
Starting point is 00:50:44 So then they will think, well, why the hell are you pricing 40 quid for one picture if you're brand new? Like be so for real. So I usually say for like, if it was say a foot picture, like a fiver is fine for one. One or two is fine.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Realistically, people see, I've seen your feet for free. So to get a fiver, to get a fiver, you'd be like, all right, it's a fiver. Oh my god, do you think my feet are only worth five pounds? No, no. Trust me, my feet were a lot less than five pounds back in the day, so don't you worry.
Starting point is 00:51:14 No, fuck. Then I'll upsell and then I'll say, no, no, you need to pay for me to get my gels done. Yeah. In fields. Right. If you want me to sway to a colour that you like, then you need to pay me even more. Oh, so they can pick the color as well?
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, well, like I say, like, oh, I'm a white tip girlie, so like, I'm not doing anything other than that, but I'll say like, oh, do you wanna pick the color? Oh yeah, what are you getting? A French white tip. Oh yeah, get that then. Oh, nice. I'll say it looks absolutely gorge on my toes,
Starting point is 00:51:41 so you can see a picture afterwards. Oh my God, yeah, get it. So smart. What do you do with your earnings? So at the moment, it's just investing all the money that I've got. So I have two houses and it's just building it to get obviously more, to keep it.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Cause obviously I would like to not work at all ever. So that is a very easy way to be able to then just live your best life. Amazing. Yeah, yeah. You've been our best guest. How's it in hotels in London? So after this, should we sit down and do my consultation?
Starting point is 00:52:14 How do I get into it? We're taking notes fully. This has been amazing. Sorry, quick question for me. What does your like, like how often do you do it? Like have you got like 10 a.m. toenail clippings? 11 p.m. Oh no, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Beforehand, yeah, I had to set myself a schedule, but like now, obviously I've been working with my customers for two years, so I kind of know what they want and when they will want it. Like I already can preempt what they're gonna ask for. Like the guy who buys my braids, he buys them every eight weeks, so I know that every eight weeks,
Starting point is 00:52:45 I'm gonna get new braids and he's gonna send me the money for them. Like toenail guy every six to 12 weeks, if he wants to, it's too long. So it's very much like I kind of already know what they want. But if I was beginning again, then I'd have to set myself a schedule
Starting point is 00:52:59 because you'd have to post the items, you have to take pictures, you'd have to do the content. And obviously when you begin anything, the start journey is a lot tougher than when you've done it for a while. So you need to be strict with it. Otherwise you won't take it seriously.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And if you wanna make big money, you need to take it seriously. That's a question. When it comes to like, I see the social calendar, you've got Christmas, you've got Easter. Do they get extra like? Oh yeah. If it's like his birthday as well, it's my birthday.
Starting point is 00:53:23 If it's Christmas, it's Christmas from every single person individually, birthday from every person individually. So there are very good times of the year. Wow. And what would it take to have, let's say, pay being number three come about, or like your numbers to go up? Yeah, so with me, I think I've reached my limit with five,
Starting point is 00:53:47 like it is hard for me to manage everything else. But if somebody else came to me and said, I want you to be my goddess, then I'd say, well, you need to make it worthwhile. So minimum at least it would have to be around about 15, 20,000 pounds a month from that person. Minimum. Just so crazy, I get,
Starting point is 00:54:03 you know them random messages on TikTok where they're like. Yeah, don't reply to those. And I'm just like, I'm bummed out man. I'm more limited to what you gotta say here. Although once I did and I did get 40 pound for a. All right girl. Yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Oh no, we were really drunk and I got my friend to take the picture. I just put my jumper around it and he still asked me to send my knickers in the post. Around what? What? Around what? My feet.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Oh. That's what, her feet. That's cool. Yeah, but he's always like, send your knickers, send your knickers. Yeah. I don't know. I think even at that point, I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:37 oh my fucking God, I've just given away my whole life. Yeah. My soul's got everything. I was like, he knows where I live. But he doesn't, he just has my bunzo details. But. There is a lot of women who are very skeptical like that. But that's why I say if you don't know what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:54:55 you need to not try and do it on your own because then you will be even more worried. So like a lot of women who come to me, they will be really anxious and be like, oh my God, like I really need some money, I'm desperate. And I don't really like it when somebody comes to me desperate because then I feel like they will do anything and they won't set their boundaries.
Starting point is 00:55:10 So we have a conversation and I'll say, right, what is it that you need? What is it that you wanna do? What is it that you don't wanna do? And we set everything in stone. And I say, you cannot cross your own boundaries. Cause when you do, the customers will and you just get all respect and then it will just go up
Starting point is 00:55:23 in the air. So there's no point. So. She's confidence building. Thank you. Love it. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:30 You're on bust it. So do you think you're gonna undertake this new side hustle with Christy? She's shaking her boots here. If I come back and be like, me and Lauren are going to her they guys, what? Yeah, we need a break from TX. So I just need to send my fucking flight receipt.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Maybe I'll do it now. Literally, I'll just be like, guys, yeah. You do need your flight receipts. Yeah. Well, I'm inspired. See the clogs turning. Thank you so much for coming on, Letitia. We've absolutely loved having you.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And where can everyone find you on your socials? Oh, sorry, guys, I'm off to check because my old account got deleted. So what's my new name? Oh, why? Because people are haters. Oh, like flags? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Boo. So I mean, to be fair, all my accounts are Letitia Jones. So if you, there will forever be that. So just search Letitia Jones and you'll find one over a million. But currently it's LetitiaJBackup on TikTok. Gorgeous. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Thank you for having us. Bye. I said thank you for having us. Bye. Bye. I said thank you for having us. We are the students. You're welcome. Thank you. Oh.
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