Tea at Four - The Real Housewives of London Tell All on Cast Trips, Drama & Feuds

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

The Real Housewives of London Tell All on Cast Trips, Drama & FeudsAre the Real Housewives of London putting the drama behind them for Season 2? In this episode of Tea At Four, host Billy sits down with show stars Juliet Angus and Nessie Welschinger for an unfiltered chat about cast feuds, behind-the-scenes secrets, and cheap champagne.Juliet and Nessie open up about what really happened off-camera between Season 1 and Season 2, including the phone call that sparked an unexpected truce with Amanda. They break down their 9-day cast trip to Antigua, the strict rules of reality TV filming, support from global Real Housewives legends like Lisa Barlow, and how they craft their iconic opening taglines.Plus, the ladies review £13 supermarket champagne, share Karen’s wild travel habits, and discuss how they navigate family life under the reality TV spotlight.Watch Real Housewives of London on Hayu now!

Your questions are X-rated. There was nowhere to run and hide. You went in with a bang. Well, I tend to do that in life. Do you give off dodgy vibes? But I'm actually girls' best friend. Hardly. I am.

Hey guys, welcome back to Tier 4. I'm Billy. And today I'm joined by the stars of the Real Housewives of London. Give it up for Julia and Nessie, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm really excited. Thank you for having us. Now, before we start, I do have a gift for you.

Oh, yay. Um, as you, as I know, you don't drink anything but champagne. So we got you Sainsbury's champagne. Oh, by the way, it was Demi-Sec. Oh. So it wasn't even champagne. It was like a sweeter champagne. And I, this is not the one? This is much nicer than the weird day. Oh, my God. Is this not the one? I just love it because Amanda wrote underneath the post like, taste the difference. But it's like, you can really taste the difference, Sainsbury's. You really can. Wait, this is hilarious. Should we have a taste test and just see? Let's go for it. Just tell me if I was being over the top.

But it was demi-sex. I thought it was great. And isn't this from like a really good vineyard as well? Yeah, but it was demisect. So I had to figure that out at the bar. And I didn't think that the cameras, just remember, the cameras are always following. Yeah, that's true.

And I kind of thought I scooted off to go figure out what the champagne situation was. Yeah, that was more of a like a, rather than a scoot off, that was more like a, you know, a marda kind of getting in there. No, and I was like, guys, don't follow me. I just need to go figure out the champagne situation is. And the cameras were like right there. I'm like, this is not interesting. And cut to, it's like.

The best bit from episode one almost. It's so funny. I think it's so relatable because so many people have that same opinion. Do you think? I think when people don't like a certain drink, they can tell. Are you? Woo! That's a good sound.

I don't smell the difference. Do you drink any British champagne? I love English sparklings. Okay. I do. Okay. I love night timber. I love, there's another one.

Tatinga? No. I think that's champagne. Oh my gosh. Anyway, let's just drink. You don't have to think. Just drink, don't think. Just drink, don't think.

Cheers. Cheers. Congratulations in season two. Thank you. Thank you. Yep, that's sparkly. It's a little apple juicy. Wait, if you're taste testing, I feel it's really unfair to do it without like a dom on the side.

We're sadly on a rude budget. I was going to say like, should we get some in? I'm going to tell you something down. I'm going to tell you something that I don't love Dom. So you are a snob. I am a connoisseur. A connoisseur with fine taste. Who loves to drink champagne out of a straw.

Which, yes, thank you. So do you. Yeah, I don't want to mess up my lipstick. Yeah, so that's why we drink out of champagne out of a straw. That makes so much sense. So they put it in there because then the lipstick. So you don't have to keep replying lips, re-applying your lipstick. These are the behind-the-scenes facts that I love hearing about, but not joking.

So I don't normally drink champagne with the straw. It's just from the bottle. I'm entertaining you all. How much is this bottle retail? Can we find that out? I want to know how much this bottle is retail. 13 pounds, I think is how much it costs. No.

Is it really? Yeah. 13 pounds for champagne? I don't think so. You can't call it champagne. Okay. Season two has just aired. Well, technically we'll be halfway through the season as it's going.

How's the reaction been? What does it feel like to be back? I feel it's been incredible. People have loved the fact that it's just started off where it left off. It's just skyrocketed. Yeah, it's gone. It's everybody's stepped up. I think everybody understood the assignment.

You're not quite in the wings anymore. No. No. I guess you could say that. I think I wished for something too much. Yeah, exactly. Be careful what you wish for. always like, get you out of your shell.

We know you have things to say. Now I'm like, literally. Yeah, now you're like, please. I'm like, Karen. I'm like, shit. Get back in that box. No, I love it. It feels really refreshing as well because, I mean,

season one was explosive, especially for you, Julia. Yes. What happened in that break? Because at the reunion, it was like nothing was going to get resolved. And this new season feels like a complete, fresh slate for everyone. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it, actually. What happened?

What would you say? I called Pay. Panthea before we started filming and she was at Amanda's house and Amanda answered the phone. And it was a big like kumbaya moment that was kind of initiated by Panthea. And we spoke on the phone for like an hour about, you know, working together again. And Gregor was in the kitchen and he was on speaker. And Amanda's like, I'm really sorry about the things I said Gregor. And he's like, we'll see if we can forgive you.

And, you know, and she said, yeah, I really apologize. And so you don't see that right away on camera, but we did some work like before we started filming. And then that night at Jamaica night was, so it was like two weeks before that, that we had that conversation and we had messaged each other. So when you saw us together at the Jamaica night, we, you know, she had already done a lot of like, I'm sorry. And then, yeah, and there was more.

She was, she's been, she's been really, like I just went, had her birthday dinner on Monday night, but she's super like telling me she loves me and trying really hard. So it's, I can't, you know. I mean, I want to like move forward. And for us all girls, I feel like it was, I feel like it was also like good for you guys because all the drama was on the two of us, like for so long. Like, I couldn't go on that way. I think as a viewer, that's what you want.

You kind of want to see real resolution. You want to see friends, be friends. I think it is exactly that. I think it was a real friendship and they'd taken it to screen and they had a real falling out off screen prior to even starting this whole thing. And you're just seeing the evolution of a real friendship come back together. And I think that was really nice. She posted a picture with me and her bestie and said my besties.

Yeah, that was really cute. And she said she never done that before. Yeah. She said that we claim the besties. But I don't lie. So the more I think you guys fall around, I tell the truth. and I'm honest about things and I want the best for everybody. I'm not, there's no ulterior motive.

And I'm not trying to say we were something that we weren't, you know. Yeah. I mean, season one was so, so loved by fans. And Real Housewives are celebrating 20 years of this incredible franchise. So crazy. Have any of the other Housewives been in touch? Have they kind of reached out and showed their support for you? Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, you knew quite a few before starting. I know, all of them. I feel like it's like a breed. Yeah. All across. Yes, yeah. And one of my like family members right now, Tracy Tudor is starting Beverly Hills. And I was with her the first week of filming. And she was like, Adiric, she was like, wow, this is a lot. I'm like, it is. Yeah. And I, she's ready for it. She's so good. She's so amazing.

Beverly Hills is one of my favorites. Oh, it's so amazing. Mine too. It's like the one I can watch. I'm just loving the ultimate girls trip as well right now. Everyone's talking about it. Have you not seen it? No. So last night at the dinner party. It's so good. Everyone was saying that I need to watch it. So I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to watch it. Yeah, Lisa Barley reached out to me. Oh, she's, she's really cool. And she was just like, you know, welcome to the sorority and you're amazing and like love you.

That's so sweet. I mean, as you said, I'm watching that at the moment as well. Is there a housewife in particular that you think really paved the way, like personality-wise who kind of like one particular? No, I'd say there was a franchise for me. I really love Salt Lake City. And I feel like it pushed boundaries. It makes us look really calm. Actually.

I can't watch it. I get anxiety. I'm like, I'm like, oh, we just bad. Really? I love it. I love it. And I can do all the anxiety. But sometimes, I think that's what I love about London, right?

There is real friendships. And like with Salt Lake City, I feel like at the moment they're in a place where, especially for Lisa and Meredith, they're almost on their own, which feels really sad. And I don't, I don't like watching people. Get isolated. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it.

But I think in every franchise, you get the archetypes. And I think. I think Salt Lake just really push the boundaries of each one of those. I think the original New York was real friends and like a group of women that knew. And I feel like they kind of paved the way. I mean, Bethany Frankel and Jules Aaron. Yeah, absolutely. But you also see that, you also see that when you see the ultimate girls trip.

You see the OGs come together and that is quite special, I think. I can't wait to watch. Yeah, it's so good. Okay, watch it. If we go back now before season one, even started filming, I'd love to know what is the process of joining. I know you joined a little bit later and had already been on Ladies of London. but what was that like for you, it was so quick.

I mean, they tried to get in touch quite a while before and I had a closed Instagram account so I just wouldn't open it up and they were like, hi, we want to see you. I was like, no.

Who are you? But then eventually, I then got a call from Juliet Mayhew while I was in New York and she said, these people really want to talk to you and I said, oh, do you know them? Okay, let me pick up the phone.

So, and then from there to actually filming was really quick. Yeah, so I think I was one of the last ones cast and it was just like a whirlwind because I'm such a control freak in real life. And then to go on a show like this, you have to relinquish control to just people that you've never met before and just kind of give up your life and open your doors. And that was a bit strange for me at first, I think, but, you know, like everyone's welcome now. We're watching you live. Relinquish control, Nessie. Don't give anything away.

Oh, I saw it on. Are you allowed to set boundaries? I know that like in the past some housewives I said bedrooms are off limits. Obviously like you're opening your livelihood and your children to the world. They don't go in the children's bedrooms now. No, they don't go in. No, it's not so much.

It's like, yeah, it's a mean. You protect. Closet always has to be. They always want to be in the closet. No, they're respectful as well, by the way. You know, we have a really respectful and amazing production team. And I don't think we could do anything like this. without them. We're obsessed with it. It's like we're one big fan. Yeah, we are one big dysfunctional

fan. Like literally, they're all in the house and Gregor walks in. They're like, hello, Gregor. How was your day at work? Someone's like, do you want some tea? I'm just making, I'm just helping myself to dinner. And the same question for you, Julia, that you joined later. What was your process like? Well, um, I knew I always wanted to show more. I felt like incomplete in my, in my kind of reality journey. So I was very adamant that I wasn't done. And I got a call, yeah, midway through. And they were like, what are you doing? I'm like, well, and they kind of said, are you free next week? And it was like really fast. Yeah. And that's like, you went in with a bang. Well, I tend to do that in life. I am not, yeah, I kind of make my way and a loud noise often, yeah. Because I felt like

back in season one, it was like a nice kind of like trajectory. The ladies are getting to know each other. And then obviously you come with all this history and just like then the show just goes off. I mean, we were having a nice picnic. We were on the river. I was drinking champagne. I was wearing a headband. It was so nice. Yeah, well. But in the best way possible, because I think you kind of lit a fire under the show and it kind of brought this unexpected twist that yeah people do say there's a shift from episode five a day in filming what is that like for you both um it's intense i don't know whether to drink the shit the shinsbury champagne or my tea the what sorry the shes champagne what did i say the ramsbury's champagne um yeah a day in the life um it is intense so sometimes we can film many things depending on

what we have going on. But I really love it when we all get together and do the big group things. That's really exciting. Yeah. I think those are the moments that. It's almost like leading up to that each episode, isn't it? Yeah. Our cast trip was amazing. I was so happy that you got a big trip this year because those are always where everything goes down. That's the moment that everyone, but it's happened quite soon in the season, I think. Yeah. And it's a long trip. Yeah. I don't think we were gone. Normally that long, are they? They're like four or five days. Matt is like nine days. 10 days. We love to travel.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Talk to me about the trip up into a certain point. What can we say? Where are we now? Episode 4. Okay.

It was, I've never been to Antigat. Mm-hmm. Excited to go. I was so excited to go. I don't think I hid it at all. Yeah. And just being out there, I just think the sun just makes everything better. Yeah.

It was a long winter. Yeah. And so, yeah, it was good to go away with the girls. And like, yeah, it's, you know. February, March of London. Yes, we just wanted to get away and be in the sun and wear really nice skimpy clothing and just enjoy ourselves and drink champagne. But then we got into it deep, though.

Yeah, we got into each other deep because there was nowhere to run or hide. There was nowhere to run and hide. But we got to know each other really well. Really well. I think it broke barriers. It bonded us deeper. Totally. It felt like sisterhood of, like.

like, you know, the traveling pants or whatever. Oh my God, yeah. It was like we literally were like meshed and like understood each other more. Yeah. I mean, a girl's trip or any kind of friendship trip, I think, pushes any friendship group to its limits anywhere. Yeah, totally. You can't travel with any friend, by the way.

You can't. There are friends you can hang out with and then there are friends you can travel with. And the two are never the same. Not always the same. I have to disagree because my friend's sitting in the corner and we travel together. Yeah, me too. I love traveling with me. But I feel like I could travel with you guys. Like you guys seem cool.

Yeah, I guess we're not carrying around. What kind of friends do you have? You need new friends. I mean, our suitcases are from Primark and, you know, we're just throwing things on from vintage. Speaking of traveling, who would you say is the best to travel with and maybe the least so best to travel with? But outside of ourselves, obviously. The best to travel with? Well, I'd say Karen because everything's done.

Yeah, that's true. She only plays on private jets and, yeah, and mega yachts. That's true. I'll travel with Karen anytime. I would pick her. Although she's really funny about like the rules she has when she travels. Like what? She'll never travel with something that's not her own.

So I left my camera on the- Oh, yeah. I left my brand new, like really expensive little Fuji. like snapshot, like a Canon G. And I left it on the boat. And so I called her because she was still on. And I was already at the airport. And it was like an hour and a half to the airport, right? And I was like, can you please bring?

She's like, no, I don't travel with anything that's not mine. What if there's drugs inside it? And like, then take the battery out, like open it, separate it. Like take it apart. But can you please bring my brand new camera from an island, you know, in the Caribbean? so I don't have to, like, maybe have it get lost in the mail as a friend. Like, it's an electronic item. It's a camera.

Like, and she was like, oh, hell no. And, like, it basically had to come around to it. It, like, came in a Ziploc bag. Like, the other pieces were separated. She had to see and show that it was all, like, you know, in this case, Border Patrol, like, saw it so it was in a clear zip lock. She wanted to make sure her fingerprints were on it. Like, it was, like, she was.

Like she was like, you know, but when they ask you at the, when they ask you at the death, has anyone given you anything to carry on board? She would, she would have to say yes. Then look, all the pieces are here for your, for your viewing. I've never heard of anything like this before my life. She was being like, she was like, I don't want my fingerprints on it. It was like, it was so funny. She just thinks you're dodgy, basically.

That's what it is. You give off dodgy vibes. Fair enough. So Antigga's the first international destination. If you could pick anywhere else where we're. what you want to get? South Africa. Singapore.

Oh, my gosh. I love San Francisco. Have you been to Singapore? Oh, yeah, you went for the F-1? I'm half Singaporeian. No, I know. I know, but some people are. I have the biggest family in Singapore.

Okay. I've been to Singapore many times. But you're dreaming of going there. I would love to take you girls there. Oh, I see. Okay. South Africa, I'd love to take you girls there because I get quite a bit for my husband's work.

Malaysia. Well, Singapore is bordering Malaysia. I've been to Singapore, though. Oh, I'd rather go to Malaysia. Okay. So we can start in Singapore and. go to Malaysia. God, she'd be the difficult ones to travel with. I'd love to go to Cuba. I'd love to go to Peru. I'd love to go to Bolivia and stay in those like igloos. No, but when I was in Peru, I actually

got altitude sickness and I had to have an oxygen because they were like, oh, drink this tea. This is from like cocaine leaves. And I was like, oh no, we've got, we might get piss tested when we go back to work in London because when you're in banking, you do get random tests like that. And we're like, no, we won't take the tea, but we'll take the oxygen mask. You're really high up. And they were giving you tea. There's a tea there that's from like the leaves. Of cocaine.

Well, yeah. Coco. Maybe just cocoa. Yeah, maybe. I mean, we'll move on from that question. Your questions are like X-rated. It's like, I feel like we're like on the dark, dark web right now. No, let's get away from them.

Okay, if you're planning your own trips, what's on the itinerary? What's what the lady's getting up? to. I would love to do some kind of nature something. So if I was planning my own trip, I'd love to do it outdoors, maybe a safari, maybe a wine tasting, some really random activity like cliff jumping or something like that. Hell no. Yes, you would totally. I am not cliff jumping. I'm not jumping out of an airplane. I am not doing anything. See what I mean, like the worst person to travel with. I say no to everything. I am the best person to travel with. I always have something to wear on your ground.

I did not loan you a dress on the thing. I always have extra clothes. I'm always up for a good time. We're going to drink nice champagne for sure. As long as your feet are on the ground and you're not going. Yeah. I'm a great person to travel with. I've like traveled around the world and back.

Like I could do it backpacking. I could do it five star. I can like I can do it three star. Like I'm like I can do like little. You can do a three star? Yeah. I could stay in a little like hotel like up in like yeah. I see that.

Like I don't, you know, if it's clean. Yeah. Like I'm like I've done like. Is that what you would plan for us if you were to plan something? Yeah, what would you plan? I don't know. I like making things. We could like do some kind of class.

Crafts? Yeah, like we make like. Do you see what I mean? You know what I mean? Like make something that we take home like a blanket like you know or like you know necklaces from like a tribe or something or like something that could we can bring home with us as a souvenir. You're like paint Birkins.

Yeah. Can you do that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to paint my burghins. I've seen people do that before, but that just seems like a wildly extravagant task. No, I don't want to do that, yeah.

I love my dogs, but I don't want to paint their face on my burghans, you know. Although, that would be cute. It would be cute. It could be really cool. They're very cute. And when you look back so far on your time on Housewives, what's been your low and your highs? Well, actually, what we sometimes say is your rose banana and thorn? So Rose is your favourite moment.

Your thorn is obviously perhaps a least favorite moment. And then banana is something that's like an unexpected surprise. Why is a banana an unexpected surprise? Because you slip on it and then you're like, whoa. That was fun. That was fun. I unexpectedly enjoyed that. I think that's what I was saying.

And I cracked my head open and it wasn't so great. You don't know if it's going to be bruised or not today. It's nice. Yeah. What would be yours? I'd say Rose probably like getting to know the girls and actually making real relationships and friendships has been nice. I always like that.

Enjoy people and bonding. I do. Banana would be probably like how personal I let the cameras in about Gigi going to school, about my father. There's stuff that's coming up with that. So that's banana because I didn't want to do those things. things, but cathartically, I did. I did and it was cathartic. And then the worst would be, um, I don't know, my fight with Karen, I didn't realize it went zero to a hundred so quickly.

I felt like it built up a little bit more. Yeah. Your poor mother. I don't think that was my best moment in front of somebody's like, you know, parents. She was worried about you guys. Yeah. I don't think it was just me. No, I think you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's not nice. Yeah. I love those You hit the nail in the head with the banana. Yeah, totally. Description that I gave. Yeah. What about for you?

I would say my favorite parts would be just all the fun things that we get to do that are quite extraordinary. It's just living your best life every day with, you know, really big characters and having a good time. Some of the parties are really fun. Some of the parties are really fun and the traveling's really fun. And we just don't get to do that every day because. you know, I'm a mom of three. I've got a busy family life. So that, I would say, it was really fun. I would say the worst thing. I really don't like falling out with people. So I take that home with me and I don't like it when these things infiltrate my life. But then you just don't,

you can't shed them. So, yeah, I think that's really hard. And then the banana, an unexpected surprise. I would say, yeah, just probably the friends that I've made throughout this whole thing. Because we are also different in personalities. And then you don't expect us all, even though we kind of run in the same circles in London as well, but you don't expect us all to become such good friends out of this. But it does really cement a friendship and bond you together. So I really like that. I have to add to that because that's why I love London so much, the real housewives of London.

Because you can see that you are real friends. Yeah. And you can see like the bonds that you've made and like the friendships. And it just, I think that's what everyone really inherently loves about the housewives is because you get to see these women enjoy their lives, have the occasional argument, but also there is friendship there at its core. Yes, absolutely. I mean, we do care about each other as well.

Or really building friendships too and understanding each other's buttons and what pushes, you know, you and what's where you've pushed too much or what makes somebody tick and, you know, boundaries. Yeah, for sure. You know? And this last part of the podcast, I want to talk about the taglines because there's so much fun and they kind of like how much preparation goes into them. We do get it.

We do get to think about that. Yeah. Yeah. I always have such a hard time, but such a label to put. And so we narrow it down to like four. And I was going to go like fashiony, you know, because I, there's, I do a host of party. Of course.

Yeah. At Jacques Moose. And so like, you know, and fashion's like my DNA. But then also I just thought Chicago is so a part of like who I am in this group and like the American. and stuff and that's like about loyalty and Chicago like Midwest people are like really like salt to the earth like good people people have loved that tagline by the way people have really commented on the wind I love like they got it yeah I love when there's like a pun involved or it's like

a play on words I just think it's like ever always my favorite ones yeah what about for you well I did think about it I thought I was going to go down the the cake and you know the spice or the cooking and I did that for episode of season one and I just thought that that might continue and that could be my thing But clearly there was another subject that took over this season. So we went there. Did you look at like any of the previous housewives at all? Because there's some really iconic ones. What's your favourite?

Nini Leak says one where she's like, I think it's early season. And she's like, I don't keep up with the Joneses. I am the Joneses. It kills me every single time. Or like I think Lisa Vanderpump says, throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack. Oh, that's a good one. That's such a good one.

I just like almost got the chills, almost, kind of. She had some really crazy ones. Are there any that, like, don't get approved? Like, do you ever have, like, a really bad day or, like, you kind of want to vent and then you write one down and you think that would be really funny? No, but I did see that Salt Lake had, if Brittany had written them, and they were so funny. Have you seen that? No.

That clip, it's like, if Britney had written the Salt Lake tag lights and they're awful. Like, what? So I just feel like maybe, can you imagine if someone really horrendous wrote, can you imagine if we wrote each other's taglines? No, yeah. Oh my God. We should do that, actually. Let's do that with the teacup because you know normally you have to hold your item.

Wait, hang on. Now you have to give us a second. I'll give you a second. I have to pretend I'm nasty doing science. Yes. I say I'm sweet, but I'm really extra spicy. Oh, that's cute. That's really cute.

That's really cute. Yeah, that's really cute. I just feel like... Because you always go, they say. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Did I say that twice? Yeah.

Oh my God, that's so true. They say. Yeah, that's really good. I don't know what to say for you. I would say something about like... You may think I'm the enemy, but I'm actually girls' best friend or something like that. I am. I'm like a hundred.

I would say something like... I may have a resting bitch face, so you bitches better watch out. Oh, I like that. Okay. Sure, I may go with that one next year. Season three, we know what's coming. Ladies, thank you. I love swearing too.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Oh my gosh. Yeah, next time I would like to see a little swearing in it. Okay, ladies, thank you so much for joining me today. It's honestly, I love the show so much. She needs a top up. Let's top up.

And people can catch Real Housewives of London on Hey You every Monday. Every Monday. And don't forget the after show. And the after show. No, I don't want to tap. You don't want to tap her? No, thank you. We've got to get that.

I can taste the difference. Oh, my gosh. How much? Well, here, darling. Thank you. Cheers. Lovely to have you on. Drink up.

Well, you just sit from the bottle as normal. Don't you're joking. And we'll see you next time. Yeah. Bye. Cheers. See, it's already flat too. Taste it now.

Oh, it went flat. It was. so fizzy and now it's flat and gross. Yeah, I'm really gassy right now. Do you know, right? Don't you feel like you could burb? Yeah. Yeah. I was really holding it in for.

Yeah, me too. I remember why. I was like, what is this? I'm like, what are we drinking? And then when I did that taste, I'm clearly a cheap day because I will drink anything.