Tech Over Tea - 100% Serious Linux YouTuber | Bugswriter

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

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Good morning, good day, and good evening. Welcome to episode 164 of Tech of a T. And today, we have a new guest. Welcome to the show, Bugs Rider. How's it going? Yeah, I'm really good. I'm really glad to be here. I feel like...

This is live, right? Sorry? Yeah. This is live. I mean, are This is live, right? Sorry? Yeah. This is live. I mean, are we live? Yeah, we are live now. Yeah, yeah. We're not streaming it,

so I can edit things out if there's anything you want me to edit out, but... Wait, you don't do live? No, not with the podcast, no. I don't do this live. Oh, that's good. Then it's fine. I'm like, okay, I can the podcast. No, I don't do this live. Oh, that's good. Then it's fine. Like, okay, I can be way more.

Yeah. Now you instantly sound way, way less worried. Yeah. I already mentioned this on my channel. Like, uh, every time I go live, it's really hard for me. And I'm like, so that's why I never do live streams on the channel. So, so yeah, we can, we can do this. Is that because you're like, you know, not as good with English as you would like to be, or are you just not comfortable like talking for a long time?

Like why, why do you find it weird to do streams? Yeah, actually the main reason why I started channel is because I was I had this fear of communicating with anyone in general. So they, you know, with the audience, so even in speaking in front of the mic was really hard for me. So the channel was kind of like a self improvement. So I was exploring Linux, I always loved Linux, I always felt bad. I never got a chance to show my journey of the beginning of Linux, like how I went through all the desktop environments and all the exploration which usually people do. So later, but when I started using DWM at that point, I started this channel. And yeah, so first of all all i made videos because i had some really cool ideas

which i wanted to show and luckily mental outlaw so my first video got shot out by mental outlaw and then my second video also got shot out by mental outlaw so you know back to back two videos uh got some popularity so i i enjoyed it and i kept going so channel helped me a lot in communicating so right now it's a face cam so it's you know it's like a step up for me a level up for me well this is the first time I've seen you use a face cam where you don't have a filter on it so that's another step up above that as well yeah those filters were just you know i was so i wanted to just um not show show the raw picture yeah something to yeah no i totally get it's weird i yeah i've spoken to a a lot of people where they either will have just a profile picture they record with or they're a vtuber and they're just not really comfortable

being on camera and i i totally understand that it's you know i i've made i've made over a thousand videos i've been on camera a lot but if it it's certainly weird early on and i do get why some people out there just don't really like to do it. It's weird putting yourself out there when you've really never done it before and some people have reasons for wanting to keep their privacy and things like that. Yeah. There are like two aspects. One is privacy and the second is some people are nervous or they don't really like

you know showing their face some people are not comfortable with their face so i believe the privacy reason is really genuine that was one of my other reasons and a lot of my friends also do it but it's really hard so some people like internet when it got created it was supposed to be you know people were supposed to be anonymous they were not you know like supposed to put their pictures online but these days it's the complete opposite like people want to show themselves they want to have a profile they want to uh you know like they want to put as much information as they can put online so this is uh i i believe it's a change but it's obviously a bad change most Most people don't understand the threats. So I really believe like still when some of my audience ask me, I always advise them to do not post their pictures online, do not show their faces and try to be as much anonymous as they can.

But at the other side, like these days, if they want to have like nice profile for their jobs and if they want to you know they have to show up like if they are doing something but there's always a medium like you can show your skills without showing your face but then again like there are some companies which so somebody asked me to put my picture on my linkedin profile and i had no and then I didn't like so yeah so it kind of sucks like but yeah this is how it is yeah yeah LinkedIn is a really weird one um I I made a LinkedIn account when I was studying I know a lot of people that have LinkedIn accounts it's it's basically just business Facebook it is not really any difference with it, but there are some companies out there.

It's not, luckily, it's not every one of them. I don't know what it's like for you, but there are some companies. At some point. Sorry. What I was going to say is there are some companies here that expect you to have a LinkedIn account, and if you don't have one, they think that's weird.

have a linkedin account and if you don't have one they think that's weird hey we live in a suicide we can't do anything like so yeah at some point i also gave up and start putting pictures online but it's it's not that big of a deal these days but i understand like uh if somebody you know like try to just get some information out from your like it's it's dangerous that's all i believe yeah so by the way i also have some questions for you today oh yeah no if you if you want to ask me anything go right ahead i'm more than happy to answer anything i mean we can do it right now like um so but you you have put more than thousand videos right like i don't want to think about the number but yes yes You have put more than a thousand videos, right? I don't want to think about the number, but yes,

yes, it's probably more than a thousand videos. I can find the number if you would like. Where is it? Literally every tool I look up, there's a video by you, and I know it. So, it's like

more than a thousand videos, and also you have a gaming by you and i know it so it's like more than thousand videos and also you have a gaming channel and you do two to our spot like gaming stream and you also do these podcasts yes i do dude i have to ask like do you have any real life or not um you know how many friends you have in Australia how many faces you see in daily life we've known each other for about 10 minutes and you're you're already going hard with the questions um not just me my friends are also asking like they asked asked me to ask this yeah okay so let's not really that's the simple answer not really i i think i spend probably at least 60 hours a week working on the channel um that's across all of the channels i probably about that uh this isn't the only thing i do as well i also have a regular job. Um, so pretty much I don't do anything during the week. I, I don't work weekends though. Weekends, I, I've decided I'm not going to do anything related

to the channel, whether it's the gaming channel, the main channel. There's still a video that gets uploaded on Sunday, but I queue that up before, like, earlier in the week. I, when I record my videos, I record a bunch of videos at once. So, on Tuesday and Wednesday, I'll record all the videos for that week and then upload them throughout the week. So, it's not like I'm recording every single day and editing every single day. That would be crazy. I know there are some people out there that do that, but yeah, I've, I've spent a lot of time trying to sort of compress down what I'm doing into the work week and then not do anything after that. There will come a point in the future where I'm just doing the channel and I will have a lot more free time but right now, yeah, I don't give myself as much time as I probably should. I do have friends, before you ask me about friends again, I do have friends.

Not many, but I do have them. Oh, few are always better. So the thing is, like, I i see your channel your channel is really well organized and so my channel you already know it i have seen one of your clip where you even mentioned like it's a bit of a random everything okay so that's a good way to put it yeah yeah so i always try to organize it i also think like doing a video properly and making properly. I even promised a lot of courses and playlists. And I abandoned playlists in the middle.

So don't worry, like hyperlink one, I will do it again. So I do this all the time. And my audience is always like, why you do this? Why you promise when you're not going to make? But the thing is when i make a video it's it's really casual it's like if i'm feeling like i want to make it only then and i never take my channel seriously okay so like i uploaded a movie on my channel so it's it's basically showing the anarchy like yeah i don't really care so you have it so um yeah so i also think about making a proper organized channel

but i feel but it's fine like most linux channels are like this so you know it's it's fine i think your channel has it's a a very different kind of linux channel like you, my channel you can really easily compare to DistroTubes or, um, like the Linux Experiment or, uh, Garden of Brine or Linux Gamer. It's very easy to compare my channel to those other ones. Yours is just sort of... Throw it, throw something out there, whatever seems fun that day like i saw this video that you did two weeks ago luke smith is a noob and it's a reaction video to a two-year-old luke video i was like okay actually yeah you can go on no i no i love it it's great um it's i don't we don't need more Linux channels doing the exact same thing. I've sort of carved out my own little thing, but if you started just doing what DistroTube

was doing and that was the only thing you were doing, I think it would lose a lot of the appeal that your channel has right now, where if someone subscribes to your channel, they don't really know what they're going to get. They might get a meme video. They might get something entirely serious. They might get some video where you're talking about how to get the coordinates of someone. And it's just, it's really cool to see what you're doing. Yeah.

So my channel, when I started it, the main motivation was like Chris Ogipinti's channel, if you know him. Okay. So his channel when I started it, the main motivation was Chris Ochipinti's channel. But one thing I always notice in all the Linux channels is they always presented things in a really boring way. They usually talk very slow, especially like Chris Ochipinti's channel. It's not just the way they talk, it's like okay they are explaining thing but the one thing i notice is they always had like this black terminal with a green font i'm like why you can just put any color you can just rise in a really nice way and then present something so when i started my channel i'm like chris ochipinty but i'm going to you know make videos with a little bit better rise and you know like but then i notice

all my audience just care about rice and not the content and they keep asking like how you do this rice and rice and it's so hard to explain like how i do rising because rising is not just like one thing and you know it's a part of softwares so it's like a lot of soft circuit so yeah i make videos they still ask so but yeah so it's chris ochiminty was main motivation and yeah most people believe like my channel is kind of like an indian luke smith they they always mention this but it's not uh luke smith inspired it's always chris ochiminty is inspired and i really love chris ochchimente's video I watched a lot of him and a lot of the things which I do on my channel he have done it like years before he do these kind of things it's just like he doesn't his content is not flashy but it's very good you know I think

rising is one of those things that when you start so if you're just someone who runs gnome you run kde no one's unless you're doing something who runs Gnome, you run KDE, no one's, unless you're doing something weird with them, no one's going to start asking you about them. But the second you run like a DWM or Awesome WM, even if what you're doing is very simple. So when I was running Awesome WM, I swapped to Hyperland now. My Awesome bar and like my modifications to Awesome were very very minimal i activated gaps i changed a couple of colors and i always got these comments they're like hey can you share

your your awesome config it's like yeah i've changed maybe five lines of the config file it's not that crazy like i get it if it's something like you would see over on Unix porn where it's this really, you know, custom thing, but what I was doing wasn't that crazy. Yeah, I mean, so I had like my DWM configs already shared, like all the builds, I wrote a script. I believe they see the most people who switch to Linux they usually just end up using GUI and things usually like they like like windows okay like using GUI so I always promote this idea of using Linux with CLI and I explain them why it's better by showing some creativity like what how, how this can save you time and, you know, why you should basically do it.

So the beauty of Linux system is you can, you know, self-customize it and make it in a way which suits your aesthetics. So that was the idea which I also tried to promote with my channel. So this is how I see rising. It's not like flashing some beautiful screens or anything. So I believe you can even use XFC with a little bit of customization if you want. It doesn't really matter that much. But yeah, people who enjoy it, it's completely fine to do rising.

It's out of hobby. Well, yeah my my channel basically started doing rice and the video I don't know how long you've known about my channel but the first video of mine that sort of went really well is when Luke Smith started using BSPWM and I did like a bunch of videos on it and then that was when he shouted out my channel and that's when things started to really pick up Back then I was just doing videos on how to just because BSPWM. I don't know have you used Have you used BSPWM or not? I tried it. It was not like I was used to DWM

Yeah, yeah It was not like, I was used to DWM so I kind of got overwhelmed. For anyone who hasn't, BSPWM, it works out of the box, but you have to basically configure everything yourself. There's no default key bindings, you have to do everything. So when Luke started using it, I started using it to sort of fill in that gap where luke wasn't really you know i the main okay here yeah the re okay the reason why i started my channel this is gonna sound really really cocky um but the reason why i started my channel is i felt like i feel like i've talked about this before, I'm not starting shit. The reason I started my channel is at the time I felt like every Linux YouTuber who was like doing the ricing, the tiling, window manager style content was making awful videos. They were

making these videos where they weren't really explaining things at a level that was suitable for someone first getting into a window manager. So if you watched a Luke Smith video and you're excited about a window manager, Luke's videos might be good once you're, you know, once you're using that window manager, once you're a bit comfortable with it. But if're just getting started you're going to be completely lost and that's what i wanted to try to address when i first started the channel i've sort of moved a lot away from that and doing very different content nowadays but that was definitely a big drive right at the start yeah like on my channel i usually say that like um if you can't if you can't really manage like if you can't install dwm or uh you know just patch it or anything then just use xfc like why even try it um yeah because you know like you shouldn't use a system which you can't manage by yourself.

I mean, yeah, this is just... So I guess we should talk about something else other than window managers. We could do a two-hour video on window managers. That doesn't bother me. But if you want to talk about something else, we can. No, it's fine. I can also do it. By the way, I know your channel for very long so i have watched a lot of your videos um because i also use like yeah so it's good it describes

things and you did a rap challenge too and i i don't know if you know or not like I mentioned it on my Instagram story which is a bit weird so I mentioned you and I wrote like um just recently I wrote um so I was pretty afraid even talking on in front of a mic and because of you I ended up doing a rap so that was really cool so i was like okay thanks for already editing this so i i thought i felt like if anyone if i could convince anyone in the linux space to do it just because of how much random stuff is on your channel i thought maybe i could get you to do it and i'm very happy you did because i think yours was actually one of the one of the better raps in the linux space to be fair none of them were good just just let's take this claim i don't think anybody was good but out of the out of what was available i think yours i think yours was one of the better flows

and then i don't know if you actually saw any of the other raps that people did because Nico Loves Linux the KDE guy I feel like his was the best written but he also writes poems so it kind of makes sense that if he writes poems in his spare time

writing a rap is just a poem with a different flow basically I don't understand why DT did this why he started a rap is, you know, it's just a poem with a different flow, basically. I don't understand. Why did he do this? Why he started a rap battle? I don't know. I don't know, but I love it.

See, I think one of the problems, and you sort of, we've both sort of mentioned this, a lot of the Linux space is kind of boring. A lot of it is very, very serious. We are talking about software. We are talking about licenses. But every other space on YouTube, there are these fun challenges, fun videos that happen every so often.

And I feel like the Linux space definitely needs a lot more of that. I feel like the Linux space definitely needs a lot more of that. I feel like this Linux space is first of all highly distributed and this is a good thing. So there are a lot of Linux groups out there, a lot of communities, a lot of host groups and countless and they all have their own things and they don't really interact with each other like there is no cult okay and the second thing is um yeah linux space is kind of serious even i feel this if you go to any group and talk to anybody but it's because of the tech people so take people usually uh you know like they have this uh they always when they talk they always um you know like they always want to be correct okay so if you if you talk if

you have a conversation with any person who is in tech it's really hard to have a fun conversation because if you even make a slight mistake uh choosing words or anything they are going to just bash you on that so you run a channel you know how hard it is you get comments and i also got comments you know even if you do a little mistake they are just going to run a reply thread there and just keep telling you so yeah it's sometimes so i don't really this is why like in my channel i highly disrespect my audience sometimes i don't really care and i'm like dude you guys can do whatever you want they usually troll me a lot so i recently started using instagram and they are like everywhere even on instagram they are telling me why you're using instagram i'm like dude can you and one guy said

one guy did a text to me he said that i started using instagram because of you i'm like dude i don't endorse instagram i'm just using for some personal reason you can you know it's it's don't put it on me and he deleted it and then he was emailing me like okay i deleted thanks to you this this is kind of like a pressure this is why i don't take my channel seriously i'm like so um i always see i believe 100 force i believe you should not use any proprietary stuff okay but it's really hard thing to do and if you if you don't do it like if you say that i believe in 100 force and okay like for example you can try your best but it's not like you can be 100 force yeah and it's for, it's just symbolic. I don't really care about privacy.

I mean, I care about privacy, but I believe that if I'm not using something like Telegram, then it's more about, you know, showing my support to, you know, privacy oriented things other than actually looking for privacy. Because in India, we have things like government force things like Aadhaar card and a lot of systems which kind of already... There is no privacy. But yeah, the representation that you... By using force uh we we represent that's how i think

like yeah like the possibility like yeah if we if we can uh if if you know like we can get one we can achieve 100 privacy so that's something yeah i feel like this is... I mean, yeah. Sorry, if you want... Sorry, I don't know if you know or not, like Richard Stallman did some conference, somebody was telling me, like he presented some ideas where you have to keep a pager. I think you were mentioning it, you know, keep a pager. Yeah.

I've definitely mentioned it before. I don't recall the exact... You know that idea, right? So basically, if somebody calls, pager yeah i think i i've definitely mentioned it before i don't i don't recall the exact you know that idea right so basically if somebody call he have to first beep the pager or something like that so i i wonder sometimes like if we present ideas like these um is it a good thing or people are like going to completely abandon these things just because it's too extreme so on my channel i always try to show things which are kind of like a midway so you can use these technology uh without you know in a better way without losing so i did some scraping videos like how to use youtube without

um you know like going on the website also it helps like because these days internet addiction is raising highly like people are highly addicted to things like youtube so by using technology in these ways you can cut down algorithm like rss and things so for me it's not always about privacy or you know like complete force support it's always about um it's just better tech for me and you know i don't get addicted it's i like software and all these things but yeah i support force obviously like i'm a true for supporter i think sometimes sometimes i want to go 100% force i was 100% force i might delete instagram someday i don't know i think there is certainly a place for those people that are

really really extreme they sort of give you an idea about how far you can go you could go and be like richard stillman if you really wanted to but i don't think you have to look at things in the absolute extremes there there is definitely that scale there. And one thing that has been brought up to me a bunch of times is, why do I upload on YouTube? Why don't I upload on PeerTube? Because, you know, that's the FOSS platform. No one's going to see it.

That's the big thing. And I think that's something you have to, like, really understand if you're going to be talking about anything in FOSS. You need to talk about things in the places where people are going to see it. That is going to mean you have to compromise in sort of some respects. Like I have a Discord server because that's the thing that people use. I have a YouTube account because that's where everyone watches videos. If I wanted to, you know, just use IRC and just use PeerTube, I could certainly do that, but way less people would see what I'm talking about. And you're not going to make, like,

if your goal is to get more people to use FOSS, you're not going to make that happen just talking to the people that already use FOSS they don't need to be convinced they're already using it yeah this is the exact thing I once told one of my you know like subscriber on my discord so um like you can't be isolated and just keep talking about FOSS among people who already know FOSS if you have to you know like convey the idea to normal people you have to go to their platform and tell yeah but i still highly respect people who choose to stick with principles and choose 100 percent force i have some friends who really not use any propriety stuff or you know like the bridge is really low and i i believe like i believe like um it's a hard thing

to do you can do it but then again you have to make some choices like for example uh if i for right now i'm using instagram because a lot of my friends are putting some pressure and i'm like okay let's use it so i if i delete instagram then there is a trade off, like I will lose touch on of Instagram. And your thing is, if you remove the aspect of privacy, it all boils down to you. Like if you don't really care about Instagram, if you're not, if you're not putting things up, and if you don't really waste time on it, then it's completely fine. You don't really have to be extreme but the threat is these technologies are so addictive and so disgusting like yeah kind of your mind space so also in linux community people uh there are all kinds of people it's just like my audience sometimes you

know like they keep sending me mails and messages so it it's weird. That's why I'm saying this right now. So they might, you know, watch it. So they might not. I'm pretty sure you can relate because you also have a channel. People just, you know, keep asking. My advice is just ignore. Yeah, exactly. And I've sort of cultivated this audience where people have discussions.

There are a lot of channels out there where it won't... Basically, the only thing that is true is what the YouTuber says is true. I end every one of my videos asking a discussion question. If someone knows more about a topic than I do, I want to hear their feedback and hear where maybe I went wrong on something. I'm not really a big fan of these, you know, you'll see some of these channels where the audience loves the YouTuber. Everything the YouTuber does is great.

I, I've never really understood why you want to just have people basically worshipping you in the comments. I kind of like having, as annoying as some of the people are when they go a little bit too far with, you know, what they're saying, I like having that sort of a little bit combative audience it it adds a bit of fun it does mean that it's like i don't okay i don't have an addiction to instagram but i do have a bit of an addiction to checking and replying to my youtube comments um because i don't just you know i i noticed that you read all yours and you usually you know heart them i reply to a lot of them that's a bad idea i don't recommend that so i actually just heart every comment uh comment and the reason behind this is i just it's fun to just click on that heart it just feels weird

and the second reason is i just you know know, by hurting every comment, I just kills the point of heart. It's like, it doesn't matter now. That's bad. So it's, okay. So I even hurt the comments. Like, I don't even read, like, if somebody's criticizing or something, I just hurt. Okay. So also, I feel like this thing.

You don't like the heart button? No, I like pressing it. That's why I just keep... I just open my comments and I just press it. It just feels good. Okay, sure. So one thing is that about this thing of people worshipping YouTube, I was thinking about it and I think this is the root the root reason of this is because all these platforms youtube twitch and you know like other things like instagram i really hate this followers system like the people subscribing or you know following someone because what happened is not everyone put good content all the time so so what happened is if somebody uh subscribed to someone and some person got like millions of subscribers then after some time people are gonna watch it watch him like no matter what he's putting out so basically it's not

about content it's about who is putting that content out so it's not a fair game it's like someone already have some upper ground and this is something i i i guess ready to um do it better but then in reddit the issue what happened is it depends on the community like if some posts get a vote then it depends if the community is better then some nice posts will get a vote so i believe the best way is just um it's a bit of like 4chan like random or i don't know i find like all the social media to be disgusting like like instagram and 4chan are equally disgusting yeah i'm sure the people of 4chan are gonna to like that I don't know if you ever have this happen but occasionally

some of my videos will get posted over on G which is always you know it's always fun to see what people are saying when that happens you search yourself on google you search yourself on google you search yourself in google no people

usually uh usually send it to me like when something gets posted on 4chan there are people in my i i try to avoid going to 4chan but when there are people in my discord that want to make it you know very clear that i got posted on 4chan every time it happens uh like my my recent interview with the developer of hyperland uh that one got posted over there luckily in that one everyone was just ignoring me they were just insulting weyland so i didn't have a giant wall of people be like brody i don't know beard i guess a lot of beard comments like brody your beard's bad brody shave the beard like no go away not gonna happen i personally feel if you're watching some youtuber just watching for content and not anything else like if you are giving your mind space or anything

in general about that youtuber then it's kind of waste of time a lot of people critic um don't like luke smith's channel and they criticize me for that because i sometimes mention him on my channel so i don't understand like i barely watch any of his videos which are other than linux and i barely know that but also they don't understand like i'm from india i'm a kid i'm like so younger than him and there is no connection. We are two different people. There is nothing to say. Entire culture is different.

You guys have something going on in your brain and you're just talking about it. People don't really care. I have some other things to do. I don't really care or think about. So, but we have one thing I believe is like we should not take internet seriously. So whatever is going on, it doesn't really matter. So, yeah, I mean. One thing I do want to mention, when you said you don't watch that many Luke Smith videos,

you don't, it's not really that difficult to do that because he doesn't upload that often anyway. So his last video was a month ago, so it's pretty easy to not watch his videos. Um, but I get what you was saying. I don't think he's uploading Linux related content, but I have to say like Luke Smith content, which is Linux related is really good. Like he made a lot of videos, nice videos, and it's actually helpful. Like all the videos I've, I've learned a lot from his videos and your videos are

kind of like, if I'm exploring some tool, I just go and just see your videos and uh, his videos are like, um, yeah, I mean, okay, his videos are also like this. If you think about it, well, when he did videos on tools, nowadays, what has he uploaded recently? So we've got installing an email server. Actually, installing an email server, that's a really useful one. Yeah, these days, he's also pushing videos, I guess. How kids' cartoons accidentally brainwash generations.

Yeah, that's a very Luke Smith video. Ever notice how weird modern tv and film yeah luke's channel has always been a weird one like he's got actually to be honest oh yeah you can connect oh sorry this this delay is massive i'm sorry yeah um what what i was saying is like luke smith channel i don't really connect with him like a lot of the things other than which he talked about i don't understand because i live in india yeah so for example i once watched one video about some consumerism in america like how you buy things and stuff so i don't as an indian i don't relate you know because i don't see these kind of things here. Like, I go and get my, like, I buy stuff.

Like, my culture is highly different. So, yeah, you know, that's why I don't really watch. No, I do get that. It's very, well, even in my case, like, a lot of the stuff he says is very America-focused. And even in Australia, while a lot of this country is, it's very American focused. And even, even in Australia, while a lot of this country is, it's very Americanized. Like if you go to some of the major cities,

they look pretty much the same as major cities in America. Even then the culture is still, it's still very different. Like I think a simple example is... Actually, what's a good example here? How Australia feels about curse words, swearing, whatever you want to call it. There's a lot of things in America where they're like, Oh, this is really taboo. You can't say that.

where they're like, oh, this is really taboo, you can't say that. But in Australia, he'll just, you know, they just use swear words as if they're saying um or ah. They use it to fill a sentence, basically, which, you know, it's a very different style of communicating. And, you know, there's all manner of other problems and things like that where they just don't translate exactly the same so even for me it's kind of like watching it you know it's like going to a zoo right this is how i see how i see luke describing america it's like going to a zoo you see the americans in the cage and you're like look at the americans doing their weird american things yeah i mean uh i watched one video of

australia where i'm not sure if it was australia but some guy um so president i guess so he was in someone's lawn and he just asked him to move away that was yes that was really so that was the moment i was like yeah yeah, Australia is a joke. It's a nice city, country. For anyone who doesn't know the video he's talking about, a couple of years back, I want to say it was... I don't remember which prime minister it was. A couple of years back, there was this newscast being done in some suburb.

I don't remember why. I think they were building houses there or something. And they were recording and the prime minister was standing on someone's lawn. And the guy who lived at that house came out and basically yelled at them to get off the grass because he had just like laid down new seeds and he doesn't want the grass to be damaged and like oh sorry sorry sorry there there's a lot of examples of this in australia actually um there are multiple uh leaders in this country who have had shoes thrown at them during a talk tomatoes thrown at them and nothing happens to the person like one of these people i think the guy who threw the shoe he went down to the the local bar the local pub and just started drinking with his

friends the police showed up and they're like we're here to arrest you he's like oh okay and he was like why am i getting arrested i I don't, I don't understand. It's really awesome. You know, like, Australia is just a joke country. No, I feel like India is also kind of like a joke country. India is a bizarre country. It's really, it's really hard to describe describe I don't really know anything about India

outside of like what's been shown in movies like that that's pretty much what I know about I don't even know if that's a realistic

like you know description of what India is like I'm not gonna tell you I mean it's fine if you don't know

it's really hard to tell actually it depends also it depends on what movie you're watching there are different different kinds of movies yeah yeah so but then recently in india i visited one place in arunachal it's called today uh it was a really nice place so i'm recently so i'm planning to so we got like 12 months in a year so i'm planning to spend like two months every year to some some nice place which are with some nature and mountains and you know some valley area so just so the thing about treating is the best part is there is no internet those i don't know why those people are like it's a bad thing i'm like yo it's so good it's so good you know it's it's a good place to just cut down

like you know get rid of any kind of internet addiction yeah so i might go there again and okay so i'm planning to do like growing my own food or something, but I'm afraid if I mention on my channel, like, how these guys going, like, it's like, it's, it's not inspired. It's my own thing. Like, I want to do it. Okay. But let's see. I might make a video on that. The first comment is going to be Indian Luke Smith.

I guarantee it. You would like it. I mean, I'm fine. I'm gonna ignore the comment. Is that a- okay, here's a question. I mean I'm fine here's a question does that annoy you when people constantly try to compare you to Luke

because I certainly got a lot of that early on especially when I was making videos that were basically just Luke Smith videos with an Australian accent no this doesn't annoy me first of all Luke Smithmith is a like a really good

youtuber obviously like he's one of the best friends youtuber and i don't think any other person made such a nice videos like as him so i don't understand like why this will annoy me and about like some people not liking luke and they are bashing me over it so this is just stupid like i don't really like whatever opinions he have like he has his own opinion like india so some people call him like racist i guess okay so especially even against so i believe the indians also can be racist like i am also i i'm not sure like I'm racist or not, but maybe somebody find me racist. So it's, it's basically his personality doesn't matter to me, like his content does. So according to a report, India was one of the most racist countries.

So, so it, everybody have their, his own opinion. One thing I did want to ask you about is how did you actually get started using Linux? Like how long have you been using it? Why did you start using it? So, okay, let me start. This is a good question. So can I just mention like my computer journey and not just Linux because I guess so I was just, I never had like any experience prior experience with

programming or anything so it was the school time and one day I watched this movie the social network and then I started you know learning how to do web development and I got really motivated by watching that movie so my goal was very simple so whatever he was doing in the movie i wanted to do that so he was doing some my skill lamp stick some you know making a php website so i spent like two months and i learned like php and i learned c programming for fun and i learned html css and i ended up making a first version of Facebook like website okay so I was pretty happy with that it was really trash but it was working so the login form was working and

everything like feed was working so from there I was like okay it's fine I'm enjoying it at that time I had a really shitty system it had some virus on it so it was Windows 7 some really weird viruses so I managed to learn few other technologies over time i realized in order to get good and be exactly like you know the mark zuckerberg in the movie so in the social network i have to learn how to use computer with commandment so at that point i'm like okay so so i was was Googling what he was doing on his computer and just to figure out. So that's how I figured out he used PHP to create Facebook.

So then I realized, okay, he was using Linux. So at that point, I started using Linux. My first store was Linux Mint. And then I even figured out what desktop environment he was using in the movie. You know the movie, right? Like the social network. Yeah, I watched it years ago.

I couldn't tell you any details about it besides he made Facebook. That's the only thing I remember. It was really hard to figure out what desktop environment he was using. I knew he was using KDE 4, but I wanted the exact desktop environment. But then, okay, it was KDE 4. But now, you know, KDE is, but I wanted to exact text of environment, but then, okay. It was KD for, but now, you know, KD was so changed. So I Googled there was this, this text of environment, Trinity, again, Trinity text of environment. So it was a closest, which I can get. Yeah. So yeah. So, you know, whatever he was doing, I ended up learning those over time.

But my real Linux learning happened when I switched to DWM. Because before that, I was just using it by GUI. And I don't really appreciate that. I believe Linux should be used properly. At least you should know how to use it with command line. Otherwise, there is no point. I mean, yeah, for privacy reasons, it's fine. If you just want to use computer normally, but if you want to truly get the fun out of Linux, then you have to learn how to use it with shell.

And the idea that you only need one terminal and you can just do whatever you want from the terminal is just like really exciting. So also I realized over time, like it's so easy to install any software or doing programming work by using Ash Linux. I specifically Ash Linux because you know, packages are ever-reliant and stuff. So I really loved it every time, you know, if I,

if somebody asked me to write a code in windows machine, then it's really hard. And I have a little bit experience with Mac too. I even installed Hackintosh for like two months in my old PC. Did you do videos on that? Or was that way before that? No, it was way before. And Hackintosh installation was one of the hardest installations which I ever did.

I managed to run it and I was so happy. But after two months i was like okay it's not that good it's boring so and and you know when i started using linux i had this journey of disrupting and first i did a lot of disrupt then digital environment hopping after archlings of course so after archlings i did a lot of like i explored all the extra environments like even enlightenment and many others so uh i used to enjoy every one of them for starting one month and then switch and it's like i try something and i'm like this is forever and after one month, this sucks.

Let's just move on. Yeah, that first month is really exciting. It's this new experience. Like, wow, it's all crazy. And then you're like, once you're in there for a month or so, that's when you start to notice everything that's a problem with it. I noticed this, like, when I was switching between some window managers as well. That start is always fun and then you get to a point where you're like how do i do this thing i want to do

and then you have no idea and you're like okay next one it is then but the problem with these things is i reach to a point like sometimes i reach to a point where i feel like i'm like homeless like i don't know what to use like i i get to a point and this is happening me right now like literally right now so on my pc i cannot use dwm because now i'm so much used to hyperlane and i cannot okay i install hyperlane but with nvidia i cannot screen share so i i by the way this is like an update so on nvidia 950 okay 950 gtx if you install uh if you manage to install hyperlane it will work but your screen share might not work at least for me okay so so yeah i don't know what to use now

i'm like such a sad situation so so yeah so i might go back on you know in just in just windows i'm not kidding i'm literally just frustrated because my screen share is not working and i cannot really go back to dwm i even had like like this. So for one year, I was really happy with Linux because I had my perfect DWM build. I have like all my configs. I have a script which auto install everything. So everything was working fine for me. But now after using Hyperland,

I cannot really go back to DWM because it's like so much. And I never realized it. I don't know what I was thinking but now I feel like wait wait okay what is it lacking that you didn't realize I want to know because DWM is like very basic I want to know what exactly is the problem here maybe my patches were like I haven't patched a lot maybe that's the reason but if I toggle to like floating mode I cannot go back or if I toggle to like floating mode, I cannot go back. Or if I toggle without going to floating mode, like if I just, you know, resize my any window,

you know, it doesn't go back. It's not like I wasn't able to use my computer. It was, but you know, it was not that fun. Like there was some kind of mental restriction. Like, okay, I cannot, if I just accidentally resize my window i won't go back also you can't really have animation i tried i watched all your pycom videos i tried all the builds of pycom but you can't really have animation so easily also there is so much bootstrapping you have to do in order to get a up running dwm so i feel like, okay, I always liked Suckless software, but right now I am in a situation where I have to say Suckless kind of sucks.

DWM was the only thing which I was okay with. Other than that, tell me what Suckless software you can use. I understand. dMenu. dMenu is really good. Oh, yeah, dMenu you can use. I was thinking about self-center point. Yeah, so it's not like it's completely useless. It depends on what system.

But if you're, you know, daily using and if you have like some job or anything, you can't use it. Yeah, if you are just like a hobbyist, you can use it. I don't know. There have to be someone who might use it and who can you know challenge me on that so oh i guarantee when i clip this section now i guarantee there's

going to be people that are like dwm is the greatest thing ever you have no idea what you're talking about you should apply this patch and this patch and this patch and then all of a sudden it works well or you could use a desktop that has those features out of the box and you don't have to it was working well it was working well it just like it lacks so i was able to do things it's not like it was not working sure but it's like why survive when you can live you you know, when you can use Hyperlane. That's true. That's true. What is, so I run an AMD card. I use a 6700 XT.

I had a bunch of people in my comments asking whether Hyperlane was good with NVIDIA. So what has that experience been like with NVIDIA? Besides, obviously, your screen sharing issue. It worked. It worked perfectly. Like, you just follow the guide of Hyperlane. experience been like with nvidia besides obviously your screen sharing issue it worked it worked perfectly like you just follow the guide of hyperlink okay if it worked in 950 i believe it will work in any so they try to scare you with all the like okay don't do it but just do it it will work what um yeah i mean you just have to follow the guide but I have to say the guide is little bit unclear I watched a video

by some guy so it in the guide they send you to some thread which I think is not really needed you have to skip some substance like I post on the second I think it's that one I know you're

watching this Vax refix it. Restoring video DKMS. Okay, this section. So I went to this arch wiki DKM kernel more setting. And what I did is I followed the arch wiki

guides, but then I realized it was not really needed. Like you can't, you can just go ahead and, you know, like, so yeah,

that video actually helped me. Nvidia just seems like generally a mess. It seems like unless you're using something like PopOS where everything's just done for you, there's just always extra work that has to be done i regret it every day when you get it i can't yeah i i can't play counter-strike on linux because of this nvidia bullshit like seriously i hate this i don't get fps cs CSGO used to get really nice FPS before.

Now, I don't know if you know or not, like on my channel, I always say Linux gaming is sort of like a happening thing. But if you really believe, if somebody tells you like you can do Linux gaming and if you end up believing him, then, you know, you just got pranked or it's just a joke. It's not real. So I tried playing a lot of games in linux i always wanted to be like okay let's do 100 percent linux and you know play all my games and then explain i play only two two three games which which is natively support in linux yeah it doesn't work

as good so yeah maybe my graphic cards maybe it's my fault but yeah i i don't know like whose fault it is but right now it's not uh like you shouldn't play games in linux right now if you don't want to suffer you know like the best and uh you can do a good like it's not a big if you're installing steam spyware it it doesn't matter like just just dual boot and play games and just go back, it's always good to separate workspace for one for some nice things and other for some notorious things like gaming I can't speak for gaming being

a mess, like I play all my games on Linux, I don't have any problem, you have AMD I have AMD, yeah, so that's it because I'm playing like, you know, Yakuza, Hogwarts, everything that I'm playing. Like, I don't even know the last time I played a game on Windows. It would have been, like, three or four years ago.

I've played games, you know, on emulators. So, technically, you know, would just emulate, like, a PS2 or something. But, like, the games that I'm actually playing on Linux, they seem to work fine. Maybe I'm just lucky. I don't play CSGO. So, maybe it's just a CSGO problem. I don't know. CSGO works.

CSGO works. But recently, I don't know what happened, but FPS is really low. Like, in comparison to Windows machine, usually CSGO gets a lot. So, one game I usually play is this morrowind which is elder scrolls okay so they they have like this openmw engine which is supported in linux so yeah so few games i can play in linux it's not like i cannot play anything but yeah i remember one of my cousin he

wanted to play like minecraft and i installed mind test and I thought he might don't recognize but he did and he's like installed mine Minecraft and I had no idea like how to so yeah so I I don't like really know like if my friend asks like how can I play a game I just um you know tell him to install Windows. Dual booted. When you get a new GPU, buy an AMD card. It sounds like you should have an AMD card. Yeah, I'm sure.

Let's see how much donations I get for this. What card are you running right now? It's a50 gtx 950 okay it's a really old yeah well look if it works it works see i usually do uh you know like programming and see on my channel i usually just show my linux side like i'll do using Linux data stuff, but I'm also like a backend engineer. I know how to write, like do some, you know, like these kinds of writing APIs, um, uh, dev ops engineering, these days I'm learning about dev ops, like how Kubernetes works. So it all, so one thing I like is on Arch Linux, it just happened

really quickly so I can use it. So previously when I was distro hopping a lot I was just looking for a distro which can work for me and Arch Linux works for me I remember one of my friend had MacBook and I spent few days with him on my trip and I want to mention this so let's do this so I usually I don't bitch a lot okay i don't really trash talk about any i'm like okay if somebody is using windows it's fine okay so i i believe in this philosophy i know i sometimes break it uh for jokes but i believe in this philosophy like you know don't consume bitching don't do bitching fair enough yeah so yeah So what happened is I ended up using MacBook for, we have, we clicked a lot of pictures

on the trip and it was like 200, I guess, 300 GB of videos, videos and photos. So from, so he had a camera like a DSLR and I had my phone, Pixel phone and one OnePlus phone and one was iPhone. So we had like four devices with a camera. Okay. So first of all, only 300 GB, what a shame. Okay. But all right.

So what happened is we had to shift all those data from that MacBook because he was organizing it on his machine to my laptop. Okay. And I had just a terminal and an arch okay and he had such an expensive machine and he was not able to do it because we had like his idea was just to you know just upload it on you know drive or something and i'm like why can't we just share it like this and so in macbook i used to think using macbook is fine why because it's um you get the shell and it's a darwin wisdom it's it's more closer to linux okay so i used to think windows

machines are horrible if you want to do any real like programming kind of work so i used to have some sort of respect for my group because at least they are doing some nice ui and stuff at least it doesn't look so shitty even though you are on 11,000 or something okay so i used to have some respect but they in in that trip i lost all of it because they actually even there is this system they have some security system which is on top of this sudo and everything so you had a lot of permission issues like you have you will have a lot of permissions okay so what i did is i used scp so his he was connected to internet i was connected with local idean network so i was like okay let's do scp and he had to figure out a lot of permission related stuff and it was so horrible you can't access any file i ssh into your system but it's still

not able to get anything because everything was there is there was no root user or i don't know so it was a nightmare so i after that uh so i um that night macbook lost all the respect okay so so i was like okay arch linux is the only thing right now I can use. And I'm super afraid that what happened if it breaks or like, what I mean, not like break, break, it's like, but something happened to this or is because I'm literally at a stage where, um, I really don't know what to use right now as a desktop environment and by, you know, I really need some voice which works for me and ArchGems is the only one

so this is why I sometimes think about using some other desktop like Void or something which can replace Arch for me no not Gen 2 how can you use Gen 2 you know like if I have to I mean isn't it a meme? I thought it's a meme

the reason I brought up Gen 2 is the guy that I had... This video hasn't gone up yet, but the guy that was on last week's episode, I guess last week as we're recording this, his name's Imelo. He installs Gen 2 on... He's installed Gen 2 on a PS2. He's installed it on an Xbox 360.

He's installed... When he was compiling. He's installed it on an Xbox 360. Like, he's installed... When he was compiling... He compiled Rust with a Pentium 2? Pentium 3. And it took him, like, 38 days. So, you know, you could do it. I have used Gen 2, and... Yeah, it...

I mean, it's... I don't know. Like, it's so... You can't use it as, like, a daily distro. If you install Firefox, it's going to't know like it's so you can't use it as like a daily distro if you install Firefox it's going

to take a lot of time even I don't like I have I don't even have my AMD CPU so you know like I don't have

Ryzen threads or like anything to compile so let me know if you know any other distro which can replace Arch for me in

future I mean I'm not going to move but I you know like other distro which can replace Arch for me in future. I mean, I'm not going to move, but I, you know, like someday it can happen, like. I am an Arch Linux user. People will make fun of me

all the time, because like, Brody, you'll never use anything else. Like, yes. True. Like, why would I? Like, what would I, unless I want to go with a system that is simpler, like I want to go to an Ubuntu or a Popperware, something where everything is just set up out of the box, but I don't want to do that. So what would I get out of going to Void Linux, to Gentoo, to anything

else like that? Like, I guess the only difference then would be I get rid of SystemD, but I just don't really care about it. Besides that, there's not really any benefit to me that I can see from going anywhere else. Arch is pretty much, like, Arch is the endgame of Linux. Like, once you're here, everything else, it's not like anything gets better. It's just, it's just the same. Like, like void is as good gen 2 is as good I get I don't think like I don't think arch is like an endgame because there are like I have been in the emacs community a lot and these guys are like really they are not using us i mean they

might but they mostly i've seen people using greeks a lot okay so uh so community is so big there are so many districts really hard and most of them we are not even familiar um but i believe first of all most beginners they spend so much time on this so it's kind of like a waste of time because in the end of the day it all depends on um whatever distro is providing you the best package availability you just have to go with it and it doesn't really matter anything else like because every linux is kind of same and once you know how to customize and once you install uh your desktop environment by yourself on top of a minimal system and you know it doesn't really matter just use anything what you want uh but the thing is if you start using some distro you just get comfortable with

looking up online like reading their documentation and you know just looking up um their package like package manager mainly okay so if somebody asked me to move to something like debian or ubuntu first of all i have experience with one two i did jobs where you know i had to install one two because there was some program i was working with this nvidia program deep stream and it had like it was some ai related tool and it had only support on ubuntu machines and i had really horrible time with ubuntu okay i really hate the distro and it's just my experience maybe it's good or not i don't know but i've seen my colleagues using one two and i suggested uh them to at least use mint

have some decency okay but they're like uh okay for some reason they they like pink thermal i guess purple or whatever so i so i believe like using apt-get is a mystery for me. So this is why I just, I might don't move to, you know, like anyone to Debian-based systems, I guess. But I know people who are comfortable with it. Like Chris Ocimiti is Debian. He knows Debian. He always, like he even made a video best links to debian um and

debian have a high package support so yeah if i fail arch maybe debian because even on the server i run debian one okay i can't say distro one of os i really want to use this freebsd i'm a channel i always mention have you ever used freebsd i i haven't i've had to ask me a lot to be like hey they're like brody you run bsd i did see you did some videos on freebsd and you're like there's like three videos and then you gave up um i look okay i like video games okay and i want to play video games on the operating system that i run on a day-to-day basis and if i'm using freebsd that's not gonna happen dude like if you are using freebsd you can't be a part of normal society. Like, you have to invent a lot of things.

So, but the thing is FreeBSD lag community, but it's a good distro to run in a server. So if you have any server, I really want to run FreeBSD on it. It's rock solid. It's good. Yeah, I believe like

BSD systems are a little bit better in terms of Linux in general. It's rock solid, it's good. Yeah, I believe VST systems are a little bit better in terms of Linux in general, that's Linux-based distros. Yeah, they have some license conflicts, like people don't like VST license, but if

the community gets big, then sooner we will get something better than Linux but you know not GPL so but yeah it all depends on if the community grow and to be honest like I don't really feel like FreeBSD community or Linux communities you know like suddenly is going to become mainstream or grow it's always be in the dark. What was your experience like on freebsd like that for that period you were using it i have uploaded some videos and um so my mic was not working that's why i had to come back that's a good start yep yeah i even made a apology video it was a really big i i made apology video because first i moved

to previous team so i really liked previous team the community was really good and the package reality was also really good one thing i really like about previous days if you follow the concept of minimalism they they had like things really organized and their user lender was really clean and this is like the main reason i liked it and everything was way simpler than linux like in linux everything sounds like seems really bloated i even wrote a blog about it so also you i don't know if you know or not like linux development is really messy so you know like uh youus Torward, and it's just one guy and everything. So there is even a GitHub repo where somebody mentioned how many curse like F words. these people are like really serious and they the development is really nice so i'm not into that much into like i don't really understand these things that much but it just feels like yeah these this is like better so and i have read about it so that's another reason i actually

also i went to this event hill x and i met a guy who was one of the bst open bst developer and he also mentioned these things so yeah from there i was like okay fine like let's try free bst and i like free bst one thing i will really appreciate is documentation previously had like really nice documentation in fact you can learn about kernel and your system much more if you're using FreeBSD. If you want to go into how OS works inside, then you should move to... With FreeBSD, you can do it more easily compared to Linux. So these were my reasons. And you can still do whatever you want.

I get it why people use it. It absolutely makes sense. On that thing about the swear words in the Linux kernel, there was a... I've been meaning to make a video on it for so long I keep forgetting. There is this research paper, I'll see if I can find what it was called. This research paper that was making its way around twitter a little while ago where is it do i have it here i should i don't remember the website somebody i don't know where i got that link but no it's not that it's a separate thing um not not the

where is it i here it is okay um okay the paper is called when it decides to load is there a correlation between the use of swear words and code quality in open source code by jan stremmel this was their bachelor's thesis it's a 46 page thesis on whether swear words improve the quality of code and it's full of formulas and all this other nonsense and look i love it i love that things like this exist i i get what i get what you're saying about you know seriousness in um in linux but like you know it is kind of hilarious when you can do a search and you see that like while other words are like sort of flat crap is just going like this up to the moon this is funny like a 60-page thesis on something like this.

Look, it's certainly an original thesis, that's for sure. Yeah, I mean, obviously, it'd have to be some bachelor. Dude, like, your audience, I believe, is really young, right? Like, most of them are young, right? That's a good question. I'm going to find... I'll let you know uh let's go where am i yeah i feel like i feel bad sometimes like all my audience

like whoever messaged me most of them are like um 18 or like college students or less than 20 mostly and this might sound weird but uh i every time when someone contact me i just ask two three questions like uh what is your age and if he say if his age is less than me or like less than 20 then i usually just get on like i don't really talk a lot i mean it depends but so on my channel i always try to so so when I think like, okay, my audience quality is getting down, like sometimes I get really new wish comments. So certainly the next video is about something serious. Okay, so this is like I always try.

So I always care about what kind of people are watching my channel. And I really love like like I always bash my audience but I really like my audience because you know like these people are some like I feel like whatever I say you know nobody understand but then like my audience really understand whatever I'm saying so I really like this thing so this is one thing I really enjoy running this channel like people understands me okay so but one thing i really find weird is everybody is like faceless some anime lolis on profile and things like that so they're all weird like you you must get like

weird messages i get all the time like uh ask really, really weird stuff to me. So, yeah. So, it's kind of like immature audience. The people that are really weird, I just block them. I'm not going to deal with any of you. Go away. So, you asked about my audience age. So, my biggest demographic is 25 to 34

at 31.9% my second biggest is 18 to 24 at 31.5% and my third biggest is 35 to 44 at 18.9% also 3.1% female

audience wow that's a lot that's a lot. That's a lot for a tech channel. I mean, mine is, I guess, 0.something. I don't know. When I make video, I really believe, like, no female audience is watching.

That's what I believe. That's probably a fair guess. I'm surprised it's that high. It's been slowly going up and up. Look, maybe there's something to the beard. Maybe people actually like the beard and all of the people complaining are just jealous of it. I don't know. Do you, like, regret your videos?

Like you upload videos and you're like why i did this i have this all the time like not straight away but sometimes i'll go back and like look at some of my older videos and i just don't know why i uploaded it i feel like there's something wrong with it like in many cases, you know, I made some mistakes and it was like, why did I why didn't I properly research this? But even videos where they were good videos at the

time, some of them I go back, like especially when I was at my old house and I had the camera right in front of me at the fucking blur, the bright lights behind me and i was just like hi guys this is the video today and it's like what is this video this is awful why did i upload this your videos are like really well researched i always want to do this like because on my video

i sometimes just don't even tell the audience like just came over things and just like quickly skip everything so and my videos i used to make videos with like little bit research before but these days like i barely i make videos really quickly so uh i regret all my videos like i every video i make after some time i'm like dude this dude, this is so weird. Why I did this. So it's really in your old videos, you used to do like you used to do these gestures with your hands. I really like that. Yeah, I still do them. It's great.

People hate it. I do this all the time. Even in my rap, I mentioned it. Like, why are you doing tutu I don't know tutu dance you do dance are you a tutu dancer

there is a dance form called tutu dance T-U-T-I-N-G you don't know you do it all the time it's basically dancing with hands just moving your hands yeah yeah i've never heard of this oh i see oh i have seen this before uh no i don't i i i don't know what it is

i just i feel like if i'm just you know sitting still with my hands just down by my side like this, it's really boring. I don't know. I don't feel like I can express myself as much if I'm not waving my arms around with the things that I'm saying. I feel like it adds some extra expression, extra oomph to what I'm saying. And it also bothers people, which is the best part. what i'm saying and it also bothers people which is the best part really i mean i believe like every youtuber have his own thing so like on my channel sometimes i get really excited about some software and people really like it like even though it's gen ed so i don't release like so

people ask me to make video on something and i don't like if I'm exploring something and if I like if I generally get, you know, feel that, okay, I should make a video, then I make video. So this is why sometimes I don't even upload. And but sometimes I want to ask you this, like you and also like some other channels like DistroDeep, I believe, like you guys make videos which are like you guys are like distro d5 leave like you guys um make videos which are like you guys are like a responsible channel you guys mentioned um you know if you don't research well then it's going to be like i i expect if i'm watching your video like it's it's not nonsense it have to be some on point video okay and i barely you know um expect any any stupidity or anything so it's like a proper videos so this is like kind of like a day job it's a hard thing to do it's not so casual it's not easy okay so don't you feel like youtube like don't you get bored out of it

because i run youtube and my videos are like... I sometimes feel like Gage. Okay, I have to make a video or something like that. So, yeah. I don't know. I don't really know how to explain it. I'm a crazy person. We'll go with that. I like just digging around with software.

I like to break systems apart and sort of see how they piece together. I'm not saying that I don't feel burnout from time to time. There have definitely been some times where I feel like the videos I'm making are just boring. And like this is okay. This is why I've really changed up the way that I'm doing content. The style of content I'm making are just boring and like this is okay this is why I've really changed up the way that I'm doing content the style of content I'm doing because there was that period uh where you know I was just doing the window manager stuff then I was doing the vim plugin stuff now I'm doing a lot more of the news and commentary stuff I think what's kept me interested in what I'm doing is constantly

changing what I'm doing. And the only videos I make are videos that interest me. Like, every topic that I do, at a bare minimum, at the time, it was something that grabbed my attention Maybe I saw a reddit post about something mayor. Maybe I saw an article but Whatever the video is I only make videos where I am interested in the topic there's none of these videos where I'm just like, you know, I am I'm phoning it in just because it's It's a thing that's probably gonna to be popular. Like, I've done videos on the Twitter takeover. I've done videos on ChatGPT. And these videos do horribly on my channel. But the reason I uploaded them is I just wanted to make that video.

And I wanted to research the topic. A lot of the things that i do these videos on i was gonna research anyway so might as well just do a bit more research and structure it in a video format i guess maybe that doesn't make any sense but like you know i i i as we established earlier i don't have that much of a life. So I'm just doing what I'm doing and I enjoy it. To be honest, it's less work than I used to be doing. When I was studying, that was way, way more work than I'm doing now. So to me, it's kind of chill.

It's not even that big of a deal to me. When I tell other people how much work I do on the channel, they're like, why? I don't get it. That's so much work. I don't know. I just do it. It just happens. I don't really have a good explanation for it. I guess you take channel more seriously than me. I guess DistroDV is also taking his channel really seriously these days. Tell me if I'm incorrect, he switched from like... He's not like a full-time YouTuber, right?

I believe so yes so one thing i notice is when you get full-time uh youtube like the when you push content yeah the quality goes down like his videos used to be really nice but this is it's so pushed also the channel is like highly organized so i don't know maybe you know like whatever reason it is but uh like some of his videos are like this is it's highly pushed and this is the same thing which happened with luke smith channel like it is happening with luke smith channel like he made some random vpn video and i there was no point at that point like he already mentioned these vpn so when when that video is pushed this is not good like if you are making like informative video it's fine but it shouldn't be pushed it's something which is needed you know but who am i to say like my

channel is like the one like completely random but as a viewer that's my opinion like as a i don't even consider my channel like uh the next channel or you know it's a movie channel classic Japanese movies I'll upload one more I do get what you're saying I've certainly

I like DT's channel I really I do I've watched him for a long time but I definitely know I also like DT I definitely know I definitely know what you're saying though where Well, I did a reaction video to one of them not that long ago because I felt like the video just wasn't very good I felt like that was a lot of- Yeah, yeah

And I think That's that's one thing I'd be worried about if I did start doing YouTube full-time. I don't want to be in a position where I'm getting videos out just because they are videos that I know people want to see. This is why I have such a focus on doing the things that I want to do, because if I'm doing the things that I want to do, I feel like that comes across in the video. It's not like, okay, we're going to talk about Ubuntu 23.04 today. It's, yay, so much fun.

It's so different from the last version. Now it's about a lobster. Like, that's not exciting to me. I feel like with the videos where I'm genuinely interested in the topic, I can give off like, I want to be able to give off a certain amount of energy in my videos and make it so they are interesting to watch not just because it's an interesting topic but because the way that i'm presenting it is also grabbing your attention as well and that's something i've had to work on a lot like my my style of presenting i don't have any you know

formal training in talking in camera or like presenting anything like that so this is something i've had to learn a lot over time and i've finally gotten to a point where i am mostly happy with where i'm at but i never want it to become stale i always want to add new things to it to you know if so for new viewers it's something different but for longtime viewers it also even though it's familiar it's still got some new spark to it to grab your attention yeah see uh for new users your channels are like really good like your channel and dt channel you know what about mental outlook like okay we are discussing youtubers now that's For new users, your channels are really good. Like your channel and DT channel. What about Mental Outlaw?

Okay, we are discussing YouTubers now. That's fine, we can do that. I mean, he used to be a really nice links YouTuber, but now he's a tech YouTuber. But I feel like his videos are interesting. Mental Outlaw's videos are really nice. If I'm being honest, I think mental outlaw does a lot better of a job being a general tech youtuber like his videos i think are really really good now um also you know being a general tech youtuber this is one of the nice things about it there's a lot

more people that will watch it so his channel is much bigger than most of the channels in the linux space the only other channel that's around the same size is chris titus tech who also isn't a linux channel it's linux and windows so just doing linux videos you sort of limit what you can do like limit how big the channel can get don't you want like don't you think about just like moving away from linux to like general tech so you will get more subscribers like something like that i am 100 sure you must have think about it no i i know i i like doing the linux videos but i also like to throw in those general tech videos as well just to sort of test the waters and sort of see how it's gonna go. If something is interesting in the general tech space,

I'm not gonna shy away from it. While I am, you know, 95, 98 percent a Linux channel, I'm not a channel that exclusively is gonna do Linux. As I said, if channel that exclusively is going to do Linux. As I said, if something interests me, like chat GPT, like the Twitter stuff, like Mastodon, like, I don't know, just anything else out there,

if it's, I'm going to keep it in the tech space just because that's, you know, sort of what I want the channel to be. But I'm not going to shy away from it just because that's not the core focus. I don't know if there would ever be a time where I'm primarily doing things that are not Linux, but I can't really say what will happen in the future. Maybe I'll go down that same route as Mental Outlaw and one day I'll, I will be talking about other stuff i i just sort

of follow what i think makes the most sense right now i don't really have a a long-term plan i just throw things out and if i enjoy them and they work I just keep doing it. Yeah. I like how the podcasts have been reported. I mean, me asking the question. This is a nice change. Usually I'm just letting my guests talk the entire time, but sometimes it's nice to talk myself as well. Yeah, I do this.

So, you know, like um i wanted to say something um my channel i also think about like moving to tech so i believe in this thing so you know there are four metric i believe that youtube it matters in youtube so one is your title. So how you do categorize, like I used to think like how YouTube categorize any video. So one is title, another is description text, okay, and third is comments. And fourth is like this thing, subtitles, okay. So whatever you're saying. So if I make a video, which is not Linux related, I still put titles like, you know, how to scrape web by Linux user or how so if I'm making a blog about me making some tea, okay, so it's like how Linux user make tea. Okay. So I just try to put my video like, you know, in a lot of them, I always try to show that, okay, this channel is about Linux and not tech.

Okay. So, you know, on my channel, a lot of my videos are deleted and you can watch it on ODC. I release video related to piracy. So what I did is I made this private record video about private records. private like a video about private i guess and i asked my audience to not mention this thing like anything related to piracy or any keyword all right and they were so nice they did random comments they're like today we learned about you know like silicon chips today we learned about blah blah blah how to make rockets so and in my video i didn't mention, you know, any torrent or anything. All right.

And even in my title, I didn't write like any key. So I kind of fooled the algorithm. Like there is no way unless somebody reported, there is no way a YouTube will figure out, but I deleted for some other reason, because obviously I got few strikes and then for some other videos. So I deleted a lot of my videos you know YouTube is really horrible platform so but on one on like first of April I wanted to release this video like why I hate piracy and it's a April Fool's video but I didn't read this. So, I had these arguments like

so when, so if you have like OTT subscription of Netflix for example, and you have a term and condition with the Netflix that if you break these terms and conditions, and if you've ripped

any video, if you're downloading any episode, so it's kind of like a violation All right, and this is fine. This is fine. People do it. They're like, okay, you can't restrict us It's about freedom if you are getting the data All right But if you're you know filling up some form for on some Netflix in company, you know, like Netflix And there is this some sort of an agreement that companies say that we are not going to share your data.

But if the company share your data, then certainly it's about, you know, my privacy. You know, so there is some sort of hypocrisy. So so yeah, I was just thinking like, is it okay to do piracy or not whatever this is a I look at the end of the day I could see her and say that morally you probably

shouldn't but look look right I watch anime sometimes you know there's not a place that easily streams it we all know how the anime is acquired I I sort of I don't know I like to pay for things when I can but the internet has made it so easy to just acquire things that you want to watch. You can find any music you want to see, you can find any movies you want to see,

and there is not a cent attached to it. You don't have to pay anything to get that. And I... to it you you don't have to pay anything to get that and i you definitely need people to be buying stuff for it to be funded for it to be created in the first place but i i don't know like part yeah i don't know i don't i don't think we have to think a lot like see yeah my logic is simple if i can get it then i'll get it you know like if i if there is nothing stopping me one area where i don't care at all is with um is with game emulation so the way that I this is just my personal thing with game emulation if a game is still in print like you can buy a new copy of it I will

buy a copy but if it's a PS2 game if it's a you know Nintendo 64 game like buying a second hand copy isn't supporting the developers so what difference is there between acquiring it through other means

and buying a second-hand copy and emulating it? In my mind, absolutely nothing. Like, I don't really care. See, in India, there is this place in my city where you can just go and buy pirated CDs of anything. It's pretty common. I've certainly heard about that before. So you can just, there's just pirated games and pirated music and stuff just for sale.

I mean in India, piracy is really common. We don't even need VPNs to open any pirated website. It's like open raising. To be fair, in Australia, we don't really take it anywhere near as seriously as America either.

So, a couple of years back, there was a bunch of piracy websites where the government was like isps have to block this what they did is a dns block so if you just don't use the isps dns it just isn't locked so we will take the the easiest possible approach to appease the government and then pretend like we're doing everything we need to do until you find

some systematic way to stop people from pirating content which is really hard right now it's not going to stop obviously I think Valve's approach I want to say it was Gabeabe newell that said it that

the best way to combat piracy is availability you the way you like game piracy is is way lower than it used to be because buying a game on steam is really easy. Valve has sales a lot. It's just like a one click. You don't have to worry about anything else. It's just simple. There's nothing to really worry about. But when you think about watching a movie, for example, like if you want to watch just...

Sometimes with TV shows, one season will be on one platform. Another season will be on one platform another season will be on another platform and then it's like you want me to buy two subscriptions just to buy the like just to watch the one show like what are we doing here like why is licensing such a mess and the worst thing is they don't let you download like this is like in tv shows mostly like this kind of sucks like I download all my media on my channel I like making collection of everything locally I have two hard drives completely filled with all the and then I run jelly can on it it's just like fun thing to do it's a good hobby thing. And I feel like doing these kind of things helps you to cut down your internet addiction. So people get bored all the time.

So what they do, they go on the internet. They use things like YouTube and they just watch random videos. So on a channel, if you have like some something already downloaded then you won't do it so and on my channel i also want to you know discuss this thing like internet addiction a lot and i will do it recently i i mean i have done it but not that much so the purpose is that because i feel like it's a really big issue right now most people don't think about it and what you can do is by just changing the way you use software uh can help you to cut it down right so first first step is just to recognize and then slowly just um

finding alternatives like for example a lot of YouTube frontends which we use are really nice way to cut down YouTube addiction. So, and this is real, this is really common. And one thing is also that if you're addicted to even one platform, it's an addiction. It's a like complete addiction. It's not like most people, you know, try to say, okay, I'm not really addicted because I just use YouTube. I don't use anything else it doesn't matter one platform is enough for you know like addiction yeah so yeah so previously uh before this channel uh before linux you can say even i was highly addicted to internet and these kind of things but i feel like after so i spent like two to three years like complete force so i was not using discord this is just a new thing for me i still don't figure out like people my entire discord server was managed by the people and sometimes i forget like i even have a discord server

i i once tried to leave my own server and then i realized I can't really do it. So because I thought I'm just joining some random Linux group. I forgot I created that. So yeah, so people like I have a hard time on Discord. It's a really messy thing. So also it's highly distracting. It's so much going on. So this is why I like IRc kind of groups like irs basically xmpp i haven't said it of xmpp yet but so uh reddit i started using it recently bad idea

and um yeah i made i made an account on reddit see reddit i used to use it before, but not Reddit, specifically, Ted it, Ted it.net. Yeah. It was, uh, you know, I've done video on it, I believe. Yeah. So it's a good readability like Reddit sucks. Like you can't on a phone. I just use it like in terms of like software.

Okay. But it's Reddit. I always used to get some answer, like at least some opinion. So basically Reddit is my Google sometimes for a lot of things. And Google really sucks when it comes to find some answers and Reddit becomes a better option for me. So yeah, Reddit was something I was using, but not like scrolling or anything.

I was not scrolling. I was just looking up some answers and i was so basically i spent years not using any social media i never used facebook i never used like any these sort of medias instagram i started using recently and it's a really interesting so one of my cousins she once asked me to make a reel so she's like she used to make reels and everything and i failed at using instagram app and she's like you are a programmer you are like computer you know she's like how idiot can you can't figure out like how to and some friend you know he asked me to just visit his highlights and i'm like what is highlight i googled like what is highlights on

so at that time it's just like you know my i felt like i have to learn these things like i have to know i have to connect with the real world so i'm like i have to know these things so even though how stupid these things are like i know so so this is why i created instagram i'm like fucking let's learn these things like how people do and this is so bizarre like this is so disgusting i have seen instagram i explored instagram a lot like recently and on discord i feel like it's it's all like isolated vocals like it's really messy so i really don't like a lot of social media so previously i was learning things a lot i was more focused living a much better life um i mean it's not like recently my life is destroyed or something it's just like uh uh it's really bad like for people who don't

understand like some people don't see these things as like a bad thing so i feel like uh uh if if if someone don't talk about it then people won't know about these things so i i even believe like especially in schools we should have like programs which is i want to do it here in india like the programs where we teach kid how to be on internet in fact i'm planning a series on how to use internet for normies i really believe we need it like people literally like okay so i sometimes scroll like internet like uh and i see people are doing replies in comments and the comment is like completely dead dead comment and they are it's like a video with millions of views and they're replying they are

you know like fighting each other and they don't really understand like internet is not a serious business okay so maybe i should make videos about this like how to use internet so my channel is going to be a little bit technology and little bit these things like this little bit like you're just sounding like luke smith but seriously like it's it's not a little bit like luke smith without less walking in the woods actually um the place which i visited and some words okay and i was literally thinking about making some videos there so i cannot guarantee this so yeah okay maybe there will be some woods um but still not like smith i mean any woods are everywhere you know like we also have crazy so but yeah my videos will always be different i feel like there is all

so much space for creativity. Some people try to copy my channel and there are some really small channels. And I'm like, do you think we should copy? It's like, it's just a bit of random. I think what's made a lot of social media platforms really addictive is infinite scrolling in out of order timelines. So on Twitter, for example, when you scroll on the like the for you page, the regular page, it doesn't show things in the order they were posted. It shows them in like an order it wants to recommend them. So even if you keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling,

you're not going to hit the point where you notice something you've already seen. Whereas over on Mastodon or, you know, in an IRC channel, you can only scroll so far before you get to the last thing you read. Like, you know, if you didn't go to your Mastodon for like a day or something, there'd be a certain amount of comments, you'd get to the end and this is it. Like, you can keep scrolling, but you've already read this stuff.

So like, why would you keep scrolling? It's sort of a natural endpoint. TikTok is really bad for this. Like, TikTok would just keep suggesting more and more and more and more videos to you, and you'll never see anything you've seen before. What TikTok? It's random.

Oh, yeah. YouTube Shorts. YouTube Shorts, oh god. Okay. I have never seen YouTube Shorts because I don't use, like, the app. Fair enough. Regular YouTube. I don't use the app on PC. Regular YouTube! You just keep scrolling, I'm gonna give you one that you do use! Do you know this channel BabyWonk? Yes I do.

Yeah, that channel is really unique. I really like that channel. That channel is the reason why I'm moving to GNOME. I'm planning to move. In my PC, I'm planning to move. That channel is going to miss me because GNOME 44 has some really nice UI changes. And I believe for some time, I just want to forget and just use something because my TDRM was perfect. I had everything set up there. But in Hyperland, there are a lot of things

which are still missing. But it's fine. On my laptop, I can use it's fine on my laptop i can use it but on my pc i can't use hyperlink which means that just for pc figuring out some other window manager and then you know doing all these things i feel like just installed you know you know and i really like this script i started using this arch install script which are um you know like. It's really nice. Partitioning is a little bit hard, unless you're wiping everything. Otherwise, it's all good. It's a little bit uncomfortable.

Before this talk, I was trying to install GNOME in my system, and I just stopped because partitioning, I't want you to mess it up so i'm like let's do it later you know yeah but yeah they did they did a really nice basic thing too late but it's good i think arch install it's gotten a lot better like i remember when i

did my first video on it was it was very buggy back then uh you know how it will give you questions you have to answer it'll prompt you for things uh back in the original version if you entered like the wrong input the entire script would just crash and you'd have to restart all over again i had my own script to install large i I still write my own script because you know You you don't have to choose anything. Yeah, I really like this thing like you your entire system So some people are keep telling me to you know, check it out this NixOS I watch one video of like this to do you want it and he told like okay You can write configuration and everything will get set up automatically.

And I'm like, I'm doing it already in March. Like I, you know, I configure everything. So I don't understand like why I should try Nixos, but I feel like people really like it. It's doing something differently. That's the reason. Did you make any videos? I don't know. On Nixos? No, because people can ask me like, hey, Brody, differently yeah that's the reason i should did you made any videos i don't know um no because

people and people who ask me like hey brody when are you going to talk about nixls when are you going to talk about the nix package manager look there's so many things i can talk about like nix is so low on the list of things that i care about right now, I, one day, maybe it'll happen, but so will one day my free BSD video, I don't, I have realized over the years, don't promise videos, just don't, just say, oh, I'll put it on my list, it'll happen at some point, I don't know, I'm gonna tell you when some point is, it'll just happen at some point, is that gonna be tell you when some point is it'll just happen at some point is that going to be now? is that going to be 5 years from now?

I don't know, some point you can't satisfy again yeah so this happened with me too I promise videos and people ask me making videos I always make false promises whatever

so recently like I am planning to make a hyperline the issue is I don't have a capture card and I don't really like virtual machines so this is the reason why I never made like arch installation or anything any of those kind of videos

also we have like EF Linux guy some some guy who made who already made some really nice tutorials so i don't understand like why people want videos like people ask me to make arch links install video i'm like dude like you you you got so many videos online there are even meme videos now on how to install arch as ASMR videos, all kinds of videos. It's kind of useless, you know? So... You know, yeah, like, it's not difficult

to install Arch. Like, just watch one of the videos that came out, go read the wiki, and you'll work it out, surely. I mean, after installing Gen 2, I feel Arch really seems like really small. Just two, three lines.

Yeah, this is like... The only difficult part of Arch is the same thing you do on every distro, and that's petitioning. Like, that if... I... I have... Because I don't want to make mistakes I I have because I don't want to make mistakes

I have things on different drives so I've got my home and root on separate drives so if I'm really worried when I'm doing petitioning of something I just unplug the drive and don't have to worry about it no like

I have already a script that knows where to put in which drive you have to install do you like reinstalling Arch after some months just because you like clean my distro

is so gross there are so many packages I installed for videos and just didn't delete them so i have let's see how much i have installed right now i have 1700 packages 1700 yeah dude like how you live with this such a mess i don't know like it's just me on like if if my life is like if i'm having some really bad time in life and I'm feeling like everything is a mess, I start just, I start with organizing my system. Like, I don't know. Like, I just sit down and I just start cleaning up packages, cleaning up my hard drive, all my files, organizing it.

It just feels like, like, I'm, you know, just making my life better. It just sounds, it sounds so depressing but it's like okay i'm going to now do something productive let's just organize my files and everything it just mentally give me peace so this is why i sometimes like i do reinstallation fresh installation because when i work i ended up installing a lot of packages a lot of you know things which I don't really want and uh you know finding everything and just cleaning is hard so there are always some consequences which get left and it just bugs me so it's always better to just reinstall everything cleanly after some month and you know by doing so I you know I ended up finding

some nice tools a nice replacement some changes you know everything so that is, I ended up finding some nice tools, a nice replacement, some changes, you know, everything. So that is fun. I don't know if it sounds any more depressing than just working 60 hours a week on a YouTube channel. They both sound pretty depressing to me. Dude, like I will let, but see, it's your life. But, uh, according to me recently, I have realized this thing, like, uh. We should cut down on computer users. I mean, we should mean people who spend a lot of time. So my idea these days is just open your computer, do your job, whatever work you have to do, and just close it. Do not get lost so maybe and maybe if you want to release video it's fine but maybe you can cut

down your time on like reading comments like you're addicted to comment reading so yeah so you can start from the yeah i mean you don't really have to you know um you don't really have to shut down like cut down your videos you can just you know find some other ways to cut down the time because once you experience you know like it's like if you spend so much time on this and one day you might realize you miss out life so it's like it can happen and that would be really sad so so these days on my channel i always say okay i'm not going to do this because i'm having a life right now so i'm not going to work on these things so it's yeah it's it's weird but i say this sometimes i say a lot of random things on my channel no i think that's a good message i think i think it's important for a lot of people to hear that

there are things in the world outside of the internet and maybe you should go and experience them and it'll give you a better perspective on life and you know it'll make that time you spend doing things on the computer a lot more valuable if you're not doing it every second of the day it's a bubble like you know like every person live like just think about few things and because you know his mind is limited so he just care about few things talks about few things so what happened with me is i realized at some point that i am not like others it's not like i'm some kind of weird genius or anything it's just like uh so i had an instagram account before and i was just posting some random pictures and some of her i i met one of my old friend and she

she asked me like she told me like my account looked faked fake and basically you know like you think you're normal but then you interact with people in real world and you realize no you just overthink a lot and you have a lot of things which are not common and i'm not saying there is nothing wrong in it people can have a personality if it's fine but you should experience as much as you can and not just you know get lost in one bubble you know this is why i'm planning to spend two months in you know just forgetting whatever i do and going to some nice place in mountains or something uh just to live experience another life you know like doing and you know like connect with nature i feel like everyone should do it I think that's a really good message

to end on so if people don't want to do that and they want to waste all their time on the internet where can they find you? you can always email me I read all my emails yeah I mean

I don't know maybe I won't reply on email yeah I mean I will be I don't know like maybe I won't reply on email or maybe I don't read but it's not gonna happen like right now it might happen I'll let everyone know on the channel

go check out the channel Bugs Rider also he has a website which looks like it's straight out of the 90s. I love your website. It's awesome. I like writing CSS. So in that website, like, there is no CSS.

I can see that. It worked. Look, it worked. I change CSS oftenly. So previously, the had some layouts and colors, but recently I'm like, let's go complete simple. Is there anything else you want to mention, or is that it? okay i guess that says like i really like your channel and thanks a lot for inviting me actually i i always had this in the back of my mind like someday you know like you might invite me and take over i i still remember one day you were doing live stream and i i hopped and i i don't know if i asked i i don't know like but it but it's, it's a really big pleasure.

I have never thought like this day will come because I used to watch it. So I'm, I'm happy that you enjoyed being on here then. Um, I don't think that I do anything that important, but if people, you know, if,

if you, if you wanted to do this, like, that's awesome. Like that, that's, that's just really cool. Um, I don't know,

I always have this imposter syndrome in the back of my head, saying you're not that important, nothing you do really matters, uh, but, no, that is, that is really cool, um, so, for me, my main channel is Brody Robertson, do videos there six days a week. The gaming channel Brodie on Games stream on Twitch and YouTube. I will be live just after this goes up. And if you're listening to

the audio version of this, the video version we found on YouTube at Tech Over Tea. If you're watching the video version, you can find the audio podcast any audio podcast platform. There is an RSS feed. You will find it. Just search Tech of a T and it will be there.

I'll give you the last word. How do you want to end the show? Dude, like, it's really hard to end things. Like, saying goodbyes or anything. Dude, like, I guess you're pretty cool. Thank you.

You're pretty cool as well. You don't have to overthink about yourself. Like, it's fine. Well, I think that's the best way to end it. I'm out.