Tech Over Tea - #39 Ranting About Uni Students - feat 1R1SHMAN04
Episode Date: November 26, 2020On this weeks episode of Tech Over Tea my mate wanted to come on and rant about teaching at university so I kindly agreed, and you know what after finding out how much he makes I no longer feel bad th...at he has to deal with annoying students. ==========Support The Channel========== ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/brodierobertson ► Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/BrodieRobertsonVideo ► Amazon USA: https://amzn.to/3d5gykF ► Other Methods: https://cointr.ee/brodierobertson =========Video Platforms========== 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBq5p-xOla8xhnrbhu8AIAg =========Audio Release========= 🎵 RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/149fd51c/podcast/rss 🎵 Apple Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-over-tea/id1501727953 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3IfFpfzlLo7OPsEnl4gbdM 🎵 Google Podcast: https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xNDlmZDUxYy9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw== 🎵 Anchor: https://anchor.fm/tech-over-tea ==========Social Media========== 🎤 Discord:https://discord.gg/PkMRVn9 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/TechOverTeaShow 📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techovertea/ 🌐 Mastodon:https://mastodon.social/web/accounts/1093345 ==========Credits========== 🎨 Channel Art: All my art has was created by Supercozman https://twitter.com/Supercozman https://www.instagram.com/supercozman_draws/ DISCLOSURE: Wherever possible I use referral links, which means if you click one of the links in this video or description and make a purchase we may receive a small commission or other compensation.
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Welcome to episode 39 of Tech of a T, I'm as always your host Brodie Robertson, and today we are recording from the centre of the Rona breakout.
Welcome back to the show, Nick.
Thanks for having me, Brodie, always happy to be here.
Yeah, it's been, um, I think I checked you were last on in June, so it's been quite a while now.
Yeah, I think it was right at the end of the last exam period.
That sounds right, yeah.
Or towards the end of the semester.
Yep, yep.
And now it's exam period again.
And I don't have any exams, so I'm happy.
I have two.
What have you got exams for?
So systems architecture and cloud programming.
Isn't Cloud more of
A test though
Isn't like an on-campus test
Or what are they doing now
So everything is all Zoom
And it's like theory stuff
Short answer questions
Yeah okay
It's not like here is the VM
Do a thing
Because that was his intention, was to be like,
yeah, come into uni, there's a VM set up on your computer,
do these things.
But now that we have to do it online,
he can't verify that everyone's computer is going to be fast enough
to be able to do the entire exam in two hours.
Yeah.
Because someone might be putting it on a potato.
Yeah, that's fair. So yeah you just uh have this short answer question because i remember when i did the
um cloud programming mine was a i think it was just a theory test but like we had i think they
had everyone come on to campus it was like it was the same as an exam but they did the exam on campus
for some reason which i'm not sure how they got away with doing
Was it on paper?
Or was it on Learn Online?
No, it was on paper
That's weird
I think
When you walk into the F building
That big room right at the end of the building
As you walk in the door
The big lecture hall there Oh end of the building? As you walk in the door, the big lecture hall there?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was in that room.
But yeah, F is where I do all my classes, where I teach all my classes.
I taught in F1-16 last semester, and I teach F1-16, 18, 20, and 22 this semester.
That's the Mac Lab, yeah.
Yeah, Mac Lab.
Fuck those Macs. hard dude they they're getting a bit old now aren't they they're getting a bit old yeah and the permissions are all kind of garbage and they don't they don't have the stuff
that we need for our practicals installed on them so so this semester, I'm teaching object-oriented programming,
which is Python version of the
beginner Java course that we did.
Yeah, specifically you're teaching OO in Python,
which is not like OO in any other language.
Yeah, correct. It's fucking retarded.
I hate it so much. Can I swear?
You can say whatever you want.
Just don't say anything that people shouldn't hear.
Okay, yeah, no, no, no.
I've already planned to change names.
I'm going to be writing down the names that I choose for people.
So, yeah.
OO in Python is just really stupid.
It's not how you do it in any other language.
You have to, like, path pass self all the functions that need self
but then if you don't pass self it still assumes that it needs self unless you put like at static
method before the method like self is python version of this and i was just there's so many
weird things that my students don't understand and they weren't really taught. You were just kind of meant to understand.
Is it inheritance that's the really fucked one?
Yeah, you could do multiple inheritance.
I just want to bring an example
up on the screen for anyone who hasn't seen it.
Yeah, let's look at that.
The normal inheritance is fine.
Instead of doing class
my class extends
the other class, you just put class, my class,
and in brackets you put the other class name.
So, an actual inheritance like that is fine.
But multiple inheritance is yucky.
What is this fucking example?
You don't have a reference to super if there's two inheritances.
Because when you try to use super, it just defaults to one of them and it won't default to the correct
one because python's an untyped language which means that function calling is really fucking
stupid well okay no it is a typed language it's a duck type language um but it also doesn't care
if you just suddenly change types yeah yeah um But yes, if you're trying to call
the super constructor and
say you've got two
say you've got multiple inheritance
one initializer for a super
class takes two parameters, one initializer
for a super class takes three.
If you do super.init
which is their
initializer, and you give it two
parameters, it'll go, whoa, we don't want two, we want three. And if you give it three parameters, it will go, whoa, we don't want two, we want
three.
If you give it three parameters, it's like, whoa, we don't want three, we want two.
So you have to use explicitly class name.init.
Oh, God.
But then it's not like this.class name.init.
It's just class name.init.
So it seems as though when you're doing it, it seems as though you're creating
a variable of the supertype.
And so that's what people started to do.
People started to,
in their multiple-inheritance-y class,
make references to those
other classes and instantiate.
And I'm like, no, they're abstract classes.
You can't instantiate them. Stop.
Python is not an OO language. It's just not an oa language it's it's just not an oa
language the oa was a hack yeah honestly just having that like just classes in python are
dumb enough like the underscore underscore init underscore underscore like what is that
literally no other language under the sun does that yeah because like
other other languages have like keywords like public private protected or you know if you're
gonna do like a constructor you're gonna name it the same thing as the class yeah but yeah so like
in in python like the public private protected is like the underscores. So like two underscores before is protected, two before and after is private, and then nothing is public.
I'm so happy.
Like, why can't you just write public?
I'm so happy that I got to, like, this is the first time I'll ever say this.
I'm so happy I did OO in Java.
I know.
I fucking hate teaching this course.
But what I was saying about...
Especially because this course is taught really weird.
So normally, how subjects normally work at UniSA,
week one, there's no practical.
But week one, there is a lecture.
And then week two, in your practical,
you will work on week one lecture content. And then you'll have another lecture in week two in your practical, you will work on week one lecture content.
Yeah.
And then you'll have another lecture in week two.
And in week three, you'll work on week two's lecture content.
Oh, no.
It didn't work like that for OOP.
Because for OOP, we've got practical, workshop, and tutorial all in the same week.
And the week's tutorial is what the week's practical is on.
and the week's tutorial is what the week's practical is on.
So for students to have the tutorial on Thursday,
but come to my Wednesday practical,
they have not watched the tutorial,
and they don't know what the fuck is going on.
And they'll get to me, and they're like,
oh, I don't understand this.
And I'm like, have you watched this week's tutorial?
And they're like, no.
I'm like, well, I don't understand this i'm like have you watched this week's tutorial and i'm like no i'm like well i don't have time to teach every single student in my class the tutorial content i just want to get paid to teach the tutorial content so go look at the tutorial slides that's uh you need
help then i'll come back to you but like just start with watching the tutorial because that
just gives you the answers what What was the problem with the
original setup?
There's nothing wrong with the way they've been doing it
this entire time.
Yeah, I don't know why we're doing it
in Python instead of Java.
No, not that. I mean the fucking weird lecture setup
where you don't know what the hell you're doing for that week.
Yeah, it's weird.
There is no lecture.
It's a tutorial instead of a lecture.
Oh, fucking hell.
This class is replacing problem solving and programming, isn't it?
No, problem solving and programming is first semester.
So they're still doing PSP.
And then this is replacing programming fundamentals.
Right, yeah, of course.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So they should have done Python last semester and then they're coming in
to do advanced python um but they've forgotten all my students in like week one didn't know what
didn't know what python was like one of my students hadn't actually done the course and i'm like
how did you get into the course then because when you try to enroll in the course, it'll say you don't meet the prerequisites of the course.
How did you get in here?
But does it?
Oh, yeah, I saw that and I just clicked yes.
What?
I was going to say maybe the prerequisites just won't work
in a bunch of people who didn't have them just got into the class.
But no, it's there and people just...
Yeah.
But yeah, then people just like forgot the entirety of Python because they're like, oh, I finished just... Yeah. But yeah, then people just, like,
forgot the entirety of Python, because they're like,
oh, I finished my Python course,
I don't have to remember it again, which is what I did.
That's the high school mentality.
The fucking... Yeah.
That's what I'd hate about teaching first years,
because the ones who have just
come out of high school, they're just going to still be thinking
the exact same way. It's like, oh, I don't need
to remember what I did in math or English last semester that's not how it works anymore
but yeah so there are all these people that like completely forgot what python is and like
there was just one woman in week seven she she like pulls me over to her screen and just slaps on her screen
and looks at her phone.
I'm like, yeah? She's like, yeah, I'm done.
I'm like, okay, click the run button.
She's like,
what?
And just slaps at the screen again.
I'm like, oh my god,
there's no run button.
She doesn't have Python installed.
It's week seven.
And so I'm like, okay, you got VS Code open.
Go to the store tab.
The very top, like, install on the store tab is Python.
Click install.
Okay, now go back to your file.
Now you have python
installed click the run button okay now there's an error and she's like yeah okay i'm done i'm like
no you're not done she like looked at her phone still and i'm like you have an error you've got
to fix the error before the practical is finished and she's like i don't know how to fix it i'm like
just read the error it says cannot concatenate int and string that's
like one of the only errors that you were told how to fix last semester and it's very simple
you can't do int plus string that int there just surround it with str bracket bracket because
that's just the two string in python that's actually kind of weird with python i i've been
doing a bit of python stuff recently and i actually got tripped up by that i was like why can't i just concatenate them because everything else you can
just do stupid shit in python but you can't like they do like automatic type conversion except for
that the one thing where you can't type convert like why it's it's not even like there'd be weird
behavior that happens if i do int plus string just do turn it into a string or if i do string plus in the string
plus input work or no neither of them work just turn them both into strings there's nothing weird
you have to do there yeah or it could be like javascript and just literally i also don't like
how the two string method is a function called str that you've got to pass to the variable.
It isn't just, like, variable.toString.
Mm-hmm.
And, like, length as well, like, array length is the function len.
Yeah, yeah, you pass the object into it, or the value into it.
Yeah, instead of just doing, like, array.length or.count.
Well, the string function is less of a toStstring, more of a constructor. Yeah. Which I don't particularly mind. I just don't like it. Anyway, back to the story. So then I fix this one error.
Like yep, you've got kind of clean int and string, just surround int with the string. Yep, cool.
Now I've got that error again, I fix it again. It's like,
what? I'm like, no, no, no.
Just fix it again. The same thing
that you did two seconds ago,
do that now.
And she's like,
okay, surround this
bit here with
FPR. She did that,
hit run again, and I'm like,
you have another counter-container in the string?
I'm gonna let you fix this.
I'm gonna get back to the other
59 students in my class.
Fuck, there's that many people?
Yeah, yeah. I have
110 students
over three classes.
Fuck.
Yeah, it's real fun. Yeah yeah it sounds like it like python isn't a complex language
that's the thing and it's not it doesn't sound like they're doing anything super complex in
the class anyway i i get struggling with doing it in java because java has fucky syntax and
there's just weird things going on with that language.
But most of the-
See, I would actually prefer it, right?
Like, if we had to do OO in Python, I would prefer it if students did Java first, and
they did OO in Java, and then came to Python and did it.
Because Python, like, doesn't support you as much as just like
eclipse java yeah yeah because like java in eclipse you'd make an error it'll underline the error
it'll like give you a oh here's how you're gonna fix it python in a visual studio code so what we
program now instead of using like idle um it'll just print out the stack trace. Yeah.
And if you don't know how to read the stack trace,
and it's all the same color, it's all red,
if you can't read that stack trace
and figure out where the error is,
you're just staring at it like,
yep, that's an error.
Yeah, I understand.
That makes sense.
Because with a stack trace,
really the only thing that generally matters
is whatever's at the bottom of it.
But if you don't know that, or I guess the top, whatever, the last thing in the stack trace really the only thing that generally matters is whatever's at the bottom of it but if you don't know that or i guess the top whatever the last thing in the stack trace that's the
only thing that matters um but if you don't know that then it's going to be hard to actually work
out exactly what's going on yeah it's like i'll like walk up behind a student and like yeah i've
got this weird error and i'm like yeah line 17 and i'm like what like yeah line 17 it says right
in your stack trace there that's the name
of your class yeah but to be line 17 that that is that error there and like i can see that
immediately as soon as i get there but like they don't know that they don't have that experience
to know that this part of the stack trace is where your code is erroring but when there are
exceptions and that's one of them when it says says, this line number, it- I see- this happened when I was in first year as well.
I'd have people coming to me with these sorts of questions, and I would look at the thing, and I would say, it literally says the line that it's broken on.
Like, I get not being able to read a stack trace, that's fine.
But when it's like, um, I don't know, syntax error line 20.
Have you considered looking at line 20?
Or I guess also plus or minus one,
because sometimes there's a problem on a line
and it's causing a problem.
And it's trying to like add on to the next line or something,
like a plus symbol on the end of the line.
And it's like, oh, this thing isn't, I think it can be added.
Like with Java or something, you have a function you're trying to do. If you say
forget a curly brace, the error is going to be on the next line.
Yeah, yeah.
Curly braces. I haven't seen one of those in a long time.
I haven't seen one of those in a long time I've been um
I just recorded a video yesterday
on Ork
Ork is a um
I guess it's a
text processing utility
and the syntax is basically
C syntax but also you put
everything like if you want to do
any sort of action the entire
thing is around like surrounding curly braces so the entire thing is surrounded in curly braces.
So it's basically C with more curly braces, and it's lovely.
But yeah, so many people will be like, oh yeah, I copy and pasted this code from a PDF and it didn't work.
I'm like, yeah, you just copy and paste it from a PDF.
Like, on the PDF, you can see there very clearly, here is the name of the function, next line down, indented one over is the code inside the function.
Look at your code, there's no indentation at all. All of your code is on the far left.
Python works by indentation, you've got to have that over. Or people use one space
for the function name and then 17 spaces for the space for the function name,
and then 17 spaces for the code inside the function.
And I'm like, can you please just press Shift-Alt-F?
That's the command that automatically indents your flower for you.
Just please.
How do you guys... It looks so much easier now.
How do you guys tell them to do indentation spaces or tabs?
I wasn't told how to do it.
I'm saying tabs because tabs is just easy.
You don't need to count to four.
Like some of these students, I bet, could not count to four if I asked them to.
So just hit tabs.
Personally, what I do, I use but i have my uh my tab key
convert into spaces oh yeah um vs code converts to spaces anyway yeah yeah i do everything in
um vim but it is good that you're telling them to use vs code now and not fucking idle like when we
did idle idle is garbage i still i still had students in like week 10 using idle and i'm like
they're like oh i've got this weird error i'm like yeah go to line 17
so just count 17 lines down from the top of your file literally anything would be better like
you could use notepad it would be better because i think even regular notepad you can enable number
lines yeah but yeah so yeah i i converted so many people to using vs code over
the semester like like we they were told like for the first three weeks every tutorial they were
told you need to be using a visual studio code for this but yeah and then like i had one i had
one student who had vs code and and they're like already like a
programmer before this they just came to get the degree okay that's like they hadn't done python
though because they'd done real languages um and they had fucking vim keys up in which to do code
and they're like i've got this bit of error and i'm like oh it's easy to fix and i can press left i'm like uh i didn't do it
navigate for me and they're like yeah and there's like pressing with weird key commands i'm like
uh yep that's how you navigate left and right sure yep h j k and l h is left l is right um
j is down k is up i might have got those two mixed up.
I know in my head which way to do it.
Why don't you just use WASD?
Because home row.
You want your fingers to be on the home row,
and then there's dumb reasons for it.
And every key in Vim makes sense.
Like Y is for doing copy.
So you yank it.
P is for doing paste why so you yank it uh p is for doing paste no just just stop talking just just uh if you anyway there's one thing that doesn't make sense if you want to undo you press
u if you want to redo you press ctrl r okay sure yep okay so next story that i have listed down on my list of uh stories to tell actually before
we get to your goon hat before we go to that i was gonna say like 20 minutes ago um i would if
you want to get your yourself a uh a cheap mac watch the uni in like a year or so when they
decide to replace them because like i did the same thing with um when they're replacing a bunch of
office chairs as well. I think that was actually no that might have been um
Adelaide Uni they were like oh we have a bunch of office chairs we don't need
they'll just like fucking take an office chair. Yeah yeah. So anyone who are is in
Adelaide who wants a cheap Mac, just pay attention to UniSA.
They might sell them soon.
I hope they do, because the ones we've got are the really old, thick ones.
Mm-hmm.
But the fucking...
You were saying about how you were missing software?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, virtual reality is just as bad.
Wait, do you know what actually happened with the vr class because i don't okay
so all i was i was in the vr lab for quite a bit because i was in there with kong so all of the
computers were missing i think we needed unity 2019.2.0 or something yeah that sounds about right
um none of the computers had it so what happened is none of the computers or
obviously none of the users had admin access except the uni security isn't great so someone
might have um added admin access to the computer i'm not going to say who i might let you know
off camera but he's a tall he's a tall lanky dude oh Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know. You don't need to tell me off camera. I know who this is.
Yeah, yeah.
So, he might have given all of the accounts on the computers their admin access.
And, yeah, because no one could do their work.
And Bruce, he wasn't getting any response from the IT staff at the uni or anything like that.
So, this dude was like, hey, fuck it.
I'm just going to do it myself.
Probably not legal. like that so this dude was like hey fuck it i'm just gonna do it myself probably not i did i did have to deal with uh campus campus uh support for a while and it's like
hey uh person uh can i have the thing that i said i was going to need it's like oh yeah we're working on it like a week later hey are you still working on it like oh oh yeah, we're working on it. And like a week later, hey, are you still working on it? Like, oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, we're still working on it.
Did you have anyone in your class who was trying to use PyCharm?
Anyone who discovered the loveliness of JetBrains?
Yeah, I had like three people use PyCharm.
Okay.
Of the three people that use PyCharm, one of them used Light Mode.
Oh, why?
I don't know.
I thought Dark Mode was default. default like why would you change that
think it's i think there's three versions of dark mode and then there's a light mode button after it
yeah i don't know i it like i looked over and i'm like is that idle oh wait no that's
it's white but it's not idle what anyway yes
the goon story
I've got an empty can of bourbon here
I'm not drinking
it's 11am on a Wednesday
I took out my beer bottles
before I started recording
so
I had several here
but yeah so the goon story
so me and my mate Harry I had several here. But yeah, so the goon story.
So me and my mate, Harry... What was it?
Me, Harry, Jake, and Zach all went camping.
We went to KI two months ago
just to go have some fun over holidays.
And we all went, set up our tent,
and then Harry and Jake went to go
because we realized we needed so much more stuff
that we didn't bring.
We needed salt and ice and a table and all this stuff
that we assumed the campsite would have,
and it did not.
So me and Zach sat in a tent for
two hours because the nearest shop
was an hour away.
And then they came
back and we sat down and started
eating and Zach
pulled out of his bag this bottle of wine
and as he pulled out his bottle of wine
Jake's like, oh my god, you
brought Cairn!
Because Jake works in BWS and Jake knows that that specific
bottle of wine is $4
and like the entire trip
like before this Zach had been like
oh yeah my dad got
me one of the wines out of his cellar to bring
he just
bought a $4 bottle of wine in his cellar
to give to his son
fucking great
do you want to give a shout out to the brand
oh yeah Bowler's Run
I had some of this
Bowler's Run
dairy fucking like wheat
it was
less wine and more
like just cherries
like cherry juice.
But it was good.
It tasted good.
But yeah, so later that night,
we cooked up a bunch of burgers and snags and onion and eggs.
And this dude was like, he forgot how to speak English
because he learns Japanese and he English because he learns Japanese.
And he's very good at Japanese.
And yeah, he just kind of forgot how to speak English.
And he was like trying to talk to me.
And I'm like, yeah, I did Japanese 1A.
That doesn't mean I know what you're saying.
Like, I know you're saying like i know you're saying nick is and there's another word after nick is
that i know is a bad word but i don't know what that bad word means and and then he like there
was this wooden table that to this day he claimed that wooden table is metal and he was like bro that was the softest metal table i've ever slept on
he's like like like pushing shit off the table to get onto it and he's like sleeping on it like
this i'm like zach stop please knock your bottle of wine over not the four bottle of four dollar
bottle of wine can't afford it no uh and it's like, it's the softest metal table
I've ever slept on.
Definitely would.
Was he just drinking the $4
wine? Yeah.
What a fucking bitch. He downed that
shit in like
half an hour. It's fine.
It's a fucking...
It's shitty wine. If you're getting drunk off of that.
He's also a very small boy.
Like, I'm tiny, but he weighs, like, 50 kilos.
Okay.
He's, like, no alcohol tolerance.
That's fair.
Yeah.
That was a really fun night.
We've got this...
I've got this Snapchat that I'll try to find
and I'll show you.
He fell over
and
he was going back to his tent to go get
his phone or something
and just fell over
and he was sitting on the ground
like, ooh!
And I took a photo of it
and just captioned it with,
Spin him!
Because there's this funny movie
called Archie and Sheepock.
It doesn't ring a bell at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very shit movie.
I doubt anyone
listening would know it.
But they have a quote in there
that's just, Spin him!
It's something like
I'll come with you as long as you don't spin me
yeah sure
boys spin him
I'll find it later
anyway
he just like forgot English
it's fucking hilarious
it's like saying oh Nick is like a disgusting man
and I'm like
bitch I'm helping you Nick is like a disgusting man. And I'm like, bitch, I'm helping you.
Nick is kusotori.
You are shitbird.
Yeah, it wasn't that, but...
Yeah, it was funny.
It was funny.
It sounds it.
I have not had a holiday in so fucking long.
Yeah, I want another holiday.
This Vanessa has been so shit yeah i haven't heard anyone
who's actually been happy with the arrangements that we've got because
no one's fucking learning anything and it's just like oh
hand up the assignments and hand up the assignment that's all you get this semester
yeah and i honestly got to the point where
I'm just like you know I don't fucking
care for my last couple
of assignments I was just like I know that I'm gonna pass
so I don't I'll just fucking do minimal
effort
yeah I kind of forgot the systems architecture
existed
because like week one
two three and
four I went to my my tutorial I week one, two, three, and four, I went to my tutorial.
I week one and two watched the start of the lecture on Zoom.
But so I can get up and walk around because I've got a wireless headset, right?
I can walk around wherever I want to.
I don't even need to be in camera view.
But the systems architecture teacher had a standing mic on his desk oh no and he would stand
up and he would walk around and he would stand in the corner and talk into the wall and act as if
nothing was changing who was teaching that class was um that's still marcus stumptoner okay um and
yeah so he would like walk, and we're like,
hey, Marcus, we can't hear you, because it was on Zoom,
so we can text chat.
We can't fucking hear you.
Your voice is dropping out.
And he's like, oh, I don't know why that would be,
but we can actually hear his hair wheel back.
I was like, just stop standing up.
I'd tell you, after half an hour of the first lecture,
I dropped out, and then after 10 minutes of the first lecture, I dropped out, and then
after ten minutes of the second lecture, I dropped out.
Never watched a lecture again.
Oh, God.
And then, yeah, I went to the tutorial, and the
tutorial was just taught as if
it was a lecture.
There were questions on the board, and he was like,
does anyone want to answer questions?
No? Good! And then he would give you
like a half an hour... He didn't actually say good, but he was like, no one wants to answer questions? No? Good. And then he would give you like a half an hour.
He didn't actually say good.
But he's like, no one want to answer?
Okay.
Half hour lecture. Let's go.
And like go through the answers
extremely in depth.
Like more in depth than anyone would give
as an answer to the question.
And yeah.
That's awesome.
It was just a lecture too.
Electric Boogaloo um and
yeah so i went to the first four of them in the third one i was like oh hey so marcus on the
course website you said you may elect to do the assignment as a group do we get a different like
smaller assignment if we do it individually and he's like haha no you just do the entire assignment but yourself and i was like oh
that's kind of shit and then one of the guys in the club was like hey you're looking for a group
member and i'm like yeah he's like oh i am too i'm like sure add it on facebook um then next week i rocked up he wasn't there i'm like yeah there's Added it on Facebook. Then next week, I rocked up.
He wasn't there. I'm like, yeah, there's no point in coming anymore.
I just never went to a
tutorial again.
How did the assignment end up going?
Good.
As I said, I forgot the course
existed for a while.
Week 8.
That was week 4. I stopped going to the lecture.
Week 2, I stopped...
Week 4, I stopped going to tutorials.. Week two I stopped... Week four I stopped going to tutorials.
Week two I stopped watching the lecture.
Week eight we had an online test.
Week ten we had presentations.
Okay.
So week eight, at the end of the week,
my groupmate Hunter messaged me like,
hey, remember, there's that test online.
I'm like, oh, there's a test?
Shit.
So we got off the test. It was like, oh, there's a test? Shit. So
we got off the test. It was like
you had as long as you wanted to actually
do the test. It wasn't timed.
So I started on Wednesday
and finished on Saturday.
I just Googled all the answers
and looked through the textbook and was like,
yeah, this is fine.
Do we have results for that
yet? I don't think so.
But then, yeah, I think week 10 we had an abstract due.
So week 10 we had our abstract.
Okay.
And then week 11, no, week 12,
we had a presentation to give for a report that we hadn't written.
Oh, it's another one of those.
I had the exact same thing.
For my big data class, I had a report that was due in the final...
No, I think it was due in SwapVac,
and the presentation was due, like, two weeks earlier.
And they were both submitted online.
Yeah.
But, yeah, so we did our presentation, like...
All we had done on the assignment so far was
write the abstract. So we made a presentation and talked really vaguely. And after the presentation,
he was like, wow, that was amazing. Thanks, guys. I'm really interested to read your report now.
And I'm like, I'm interested to read the report too. And so, yeah, the report was then due week 12.
So we wrote it in like a day just by going and taking the script that we made for presentation, pasting it and changing a few words.
Oh, that's amazing.
How long did the report have to be?
It didn't say a length.
We did like one and a half thousand words okay probably not a good amount like when i when i do presentations i give good presentations sure i i
prepare for them so much because i'm like very anxious if you don't know me i'm a very anxious person i will write a thousand or two
thousand words in the exact way i'm gonna say them so that i can read directly off my script and it
is the exact words i'm gonna say and i can i can prepare those words i don't need to like
improvise at all i did the exact opposite when I did my ICT presentation.
So me and Rhys, we had our script.
What it was, was the order that we were speaking.
And read what's on the slide and improvise.
That's all it was.
And I think the notes were maybe like 60 words long
and the at the end of the presentation like wow that was really good like sure if you say so
i don't believe you uh also my supervisor liked it as well so maybe i did just i have just tested i've just checked and uh yeah the the week eight test
is not graded yet okay that was a month and a half ago no wait even further because week eight
was the one before the holidays right because we came back to week 9. Did we? Yeah, I think it was week
1 to 8, and then 2 weeks
break, and then 9, 10.
Or maybe it was 1 to 7.
I'm not sure. I know it
wasn't standard. It wasn't week 1 to 6,
2 weeks break, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
I think
it was 1 to 8, and then 2 weeks break.
I can't remember.
Anyway, Sunday 11th October was when I submitted it.
Here's a question for you.
Do any of your classes still have assignments due?
Yes.
ICT.
Okay, yeah, besides that one.
I know that one's due because I've got the report still to submit.
Yeah, I still have. I know that I won, because I've got the report still to submit. Yeah, I still
have the report to write.
And I've got the...
We submitted a lot of design documents.
What I love about the guy
who runs the ICT course
this semester, it's his first time running a course.
Andrew was a lot.
Yeah, he's a
really good guy, but he
keeps giving us extensions at the last minute.
He does.
The report was due Thursday.
No, the report was due Friday.
He gave us an extension Thursday morning.
The design document was due Monday 5 p.m.
Monday 5.03 p.m.
He gave us an extension.
5.03 p.m.
Three minutes after the deadline, he up with an extension of like three days
yeah andrew is just as bad when it comes to doing the um being my supervisor as well
like last like so every week we'd have a meeting with him
he would send us the email about the meeting about 20 minutes before
it's like mate yeah we're gonna do this anyway we have this scheduled at this time
send it at any earlier point yeah i i will quite often i i have a i have a meeting every Friday with my boss for teaching and we have a meeting
every Friday 1pm
I will quite often
send him an email at
1.05 and be like
hey are we having a meeting this
week we didn't have a zoom are I coming to your office
and then he will send back an email
at like 1.40 like oh sorry
I forgot like how do you
forget it's in your calendar
so um when's ict2 is that the 23rd i think it's 23rd uh i think it's friday isn't it or thursday
i fucking know when it's due it keeps keep changing yeah it was supposed to be due fucking
ages ago
I know
I've had it finished for a while
I'm just waiting for my teammate
to actually
since we got this delay
he's like
oh I'm just gonna wait
a while
like to the due date
to actually make my changes
like can you not
can you like do it now please
yeah
so the research report
is due Monday
next week
and
the system design document is due Monday next week, and the system design
document is due...
Oh, it's due now, apparently.
Wait, what?
Apparently we got a global extension, but it's
not actually showing up on my thingo.
Yeah, it says
it's due on the 16th here, so two days ago.
I swear we got a global extension applied to it.
I don't know. Have you submitted yours?
Yeah, we've submitted it.
Oh, no, no.
So the global extension was applied to...
Okay, so my ITT projects are really fucked.
Yes.
So we've got three people doing ITT project specialist major two.
Ah, okay.
One person is doing ITT project because they're only in game design.
One of our group members who is is doing Specialist Major 2,
didn't do Specialist Major
1, which is me.
Because I did ICT Project
last year when I was
doing the game dev course, and then I
transferred into this course,
and ICT Project was credited
towards Specialist Major 1.
Yes.
So I don't have access to the Specialist Major 1 course pages.
And Jake, who's doing ICT Project,
doesn't have access to Specialist Major 1 or 2.
And so when we do our submissions,
our submissions are real fucked.
So early in the semester, Andrew was like,
you know
what fuck this i'm giving the three of you guys all access to ict project and just do all your
submissions on there because he literally couldn't combine us into a group for submissions because
they're in separate courses because the submissions are actually different submissions so he's like
yep you all have ict project so you're all doing it on there um and so the global extension was applied to ice tea project but not to ice tea project
specialist major two so you guys are by the sounds of it you're doing a individual report
because they actually can't your supervisor can't decide if they want to do a individual group
oh the research report yeah yeah yeah no the research report we were doing
individually okay because yeah me and reese are doing 4 000 together okay yeah so but you've done
your your design document on top of that as well right uh yeah we how long was yours uh good
question because uh that the markers don't like mine.
They don't like yours because it's too long?
Yeah, because it's 114 pages.
Ours is... When it loads...
Last time they were like, oh, it's too long, and it was 94 pages.
So, fuck you then.
Make it worse.
It's just saying page one of one.
Can you please load and tell me how many pages?
I hope it's more than that.
36 pages.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think the average is like 50 or so.
I was like, yeah, no.
We just gave them...
Because, okay, the thing about my project is there was no...
We had an existing VR project and it had zero documentation.
So we were're like okay then
i guess we'll document it
but you're not supposed to do that
because the design document is what you designed so you should only be it's fine
we we got marked down last year uh because we included a thing saying one of our deliverables was going to be a working server when the previous group was supposed to do that, even though they didn't do it.
Well, we got an HD on the design document last time, so...
Oh, yeah.
I don't know. But yeah, so it was really weird, though, because like, so two of our group members,
Jared and Clayton, they worked on a project together last semester.
And now they're working on this one this semester.
Is it a different project?
But it was two separate projects.
So the markers don't like them because we're doing a single semester project as an honours student
when you're supposed to do a full year project.
It's really fucking weird.
Well, I'm technically doing two individual projects.
That's the weird thing.
Because the first semester was VR.
This semester is multi-touch.
And they don't interact with each other at all.
It is the same code base, but
they're completely different
projects with it.
Yeah. But we can kind of
bullshit them together.
Yeah, so, like, our projects were similar.
So, like, this semester,
like, we had our group of four people.
Me, Jake, Jared, Clayton.
But me and Jake did a VR game
and Jared and Clayton did a volumetric video
application okay so like using using like the azure connect they tried to the the intention
was to get four cameras set up all in a corner like in corners of a room and live stream a
person's like rendered body into Unity didn't end up working
because the Uni is garbage
and slow as all shit.
And then the program
that we were using to do it, EFEBE,
never fucking worked.
And it took them until week 13
to send us the tutorials
on how to use the software.
Oh.
And then
when we finally
paid for everything, it was like,
license don't work.
Do you have an account? Do you want to sign up for an account
at this link?
Because for some reason
the uni
is blocking some kind of a port
or something.
We never figured out what exactly the issue was,
but they were sending a certificate
from their server to our client
that was being blocked.
So the login process went,
send thing, get receipt, get certificate back,
no certificate, you don't have an account.
And the only way to fix that was just to connect with our phones internet so every time we wanted to do anything we had to like disconnect the ethernet
plug our phone in use our phones internet then unplug our phone put the internet back in because
it only required it for the login process, not for the general use.
Yep.
And then sometimes, even though we did that,
it just didn't work, and then we restarted the computer,
and then it just didn't work.
Fun.
Yeah.
I've said this before, but my project is the
easiest project I've actually seen.
I'm so happy I got such a bullshit project.
Basically, at the start
of the project Bruce was like okay here's this cool project but you're not
doing any of that basically you're code monkeys. Yeah. Which honestly this semester
I'm happy with because I had so much other shit I wanted to do. But yeah so as
well as having all these issues with this program that we're supposed to be using, and not getting tutorials until the last minute, and half of the program being not usable anymore because they've changed that functionality to be in a different program.
We also had to order computers through the uni. And oh my fucking god,
is that a nightmare. So before our project started,
we were given a budget write-up with all these things we needed to purchase
and we were approved for a budget of $24,000
$83, sorry, $24,083
and 50 cents. And it was like, yep, these are the exact prices $24,083.50.
And I was like, yep, these are the exact prices of all these things.
But that budgeting thing was made a year ago.
So all the things that we needed to buy were no longer available from those sources.
So we then went and spent a week going and redoing the budget list.
And we were like, yep, here are all the things you need to buy.
Someone please buy them.
So we sent the request
off to all the people that needed them. So like all the
Dell purchases because we needed to buy some
Alienware PCs. All the Dell
purchases go through this person and all the other
purchases go through this person.
So yeah, so I sent
Caitlin all of the purchases
from like Amazon and stuff and all eBay stuff and I'm like, yep, Caitlin, sent Caitlin all of the purchases from, like, Amazon and stuff and all eBay stuff.
I'm like, yep, Caitlin, please handle all these.
And then I'm going to change his name.
What's Jerry?
Jerry is his name.
So I sent all these Dell purchases to Jerry.
I'm like, Jerry, please handle all these.
It's funnier thinking of the other Jerry.
I don't know who the other Jerry is.
The square is a circle. I don't know who the other Jerry is um the uh
square is a circle
the Chinese lecturer
oh I haven't had him
oh you haven't had him
okay
anyway
um
go on
yeah
yeah I sent all his
all his no pleasures to Jerry
I'm like yeah please handle these
and he was like
okay
I'll do it and like a week later i'm like have you
done it he's like yep i'm still waiting for approval from like this executive group i'm like
okay cool thank you for doing that for me and a week later i'm like hey jerry have you have you
got any updates for me and he's like oh yeah, I'm waiting for approval from this
different IT group.
Like, okay, sure.
And then he finally got
a...
He got all the approval he needed.
He got the invoice from
Ailey where he's like, just double checking.
This is what you want me to
buy. And I'm like,
yes. I want me to this is what you want me to buy and i'm like yes i want you to
buy that but my supervisor has just said he wants monitors as well as those because we don't have
enough monitors in the lab to support this so can you add on these four monitors and she's like cool
so then we did that we had that whole two-week process of getting all the approval from all
the different people at uni.
And then getting the invoice back.
And I'm like, yep, buy them, please.
And then it took, like, four weeks for Alienware to even send the PCs to us.
And the PCs got to uni.
And he had to install all the, like, uni-required software
and all the, like like uni windows 10 builds
on there
and then we got them and was like yep
they work now
we turned them on
b-thod
where we started them b-thod
like what do you mean they work
they won't turn on
um
so yeah it ended up being
something wrong with a keyboard driver
that was on the
image, and so
they came and they
fixed that. They still...
One of them works perfectly fine.
We ordered two PCs and a laptop.
One of the PCs
works perfectly fine. One of the PCs
sometimes B-sods, but not every day they used
to do it every day multiple times a day now this one does like once a week and the laptop oh my god
it like it doesn't be thought anymore but what's really annoying is you can't set a Windows Hello pin. Like, the computers that I have been using in the lab,
you can set a Windows Hello pin for it.
So I can put in my staff account username and password
and then set the Windows Hello pin to 142563.
And I'm like, hey, guys, this is the pin for the computer.
Yeah, I was going to say, what the hell is a Windows Hello pin?
Because I don't use Windows.
So essentially, you put put your username and password and then you set a different pin
so you can give the pin to someone else.
Or, like, you don't have to type in your, like,
full, like, 25-character pin
and it's only ever stored on your PC.
It's not sent to the cloud or anything.
Okay, makes sense.
So, yeah, people can't, like,
hack into your Windows account and get your pin.
But, yeah, so that's what i did last semester is i logged in with my account to the computer and gave everyone my pin
and it worked fine but no i had to change my password uh for my staff account and then give
everyone my password my staff account and be like please don't log into my email account and email my students.
Or, like, log into my
Learn Online and grade
my students and give them all the details.
Or, you know, my banking information
and change that or anything like that.
Oh, yeah, but this is
only my staff union account.
Right, but it's going to be, it's going to have
your payment information in there as well.
Yeah, all I had on there was, oh, yeah, technically, if they logged into my staff Right, but it's going to have your payment information in there as well.
Yeah, all I had on there was... Oh, yeah, technically.
If they logged into my staff webpage...
You go to the staff portal, you can change it from there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
They didn't.
They didn't do anything like that.
They didn't.
That's good.
That you know of.
That I know of Yeah
Maybe they've
Stole something
And you just
Don't know about it
Yeah
Yeah it was really fun
How many weeks
Did that whole process take
In total
We got our PCs
In week 8
And they were working
Is that like
When they were all working
Or working
No they were all
Working in week 9
Okay Like at the end of week 9 And for people who don't know is that like when they were all working or working no they were all working in week nine okay like
at the at the end of week nine um people who don't know how long a uni sa semester is just let them
know 13 weeks so we had one month to do our project to do a 13 week project from the point
yeah to our 13 week project from the point that we actually had hardware
that could actually run the software that we purchased.
And by that point,
the one-month software license that we purchased had expired.
And the software that we were using
was from a small indie company in the UK.
So whenever we needed anything we would email them in our time and then like 10 p.m they would email back and then we would wake up and be like
the email fucking lied to me because it's like like when we're trying to get this this thing to
work it was like oh yeah you can't log in because you don't have an account.
I emailed them like, hey, we don't have an account.
Can you fix it?
And he's like, oh yeah, just run it as administrator.
I'm like, oh, seems fine.
When I get into the lab tomorrow,
I'll run it as administrator.
Run it as administrator.
Same problem.
Hey, I ran it as administrator. It didn't work.
Oh, easy fix for that.
Run out of administrator.
And this went on for like three days straight
until I sent them a video of me right-clicking the icon,
clicking run as administrator.
It didn't work.
And they're like, oh, there's an actual problem.
Okay, let me team view it in and check what the problem is.
They team viewed in.
They pressed whatever the console button
was to get the console up in the application.
And were like, oh,
yeah, the certificate isn't being returned.
Yeah, I know how to fix
that. And then they just
clicked from the team viewer and were like, yeah, I'll investigate
it for you.
Have not heard back from that person
that was like week eight i think that we oh no no it was even before that because
because we were trying to do this on like a shit computer before we got our actual computers
this is like week six week six he was like yeah i'll investigate that for you
haven't heard back from him. Doesn't surprise me.
So... Indie company.
Small indie company that charge, like, $8,000 a year for their software.
That doesn't work.
Jesus Christ.
So up until that point, were you just mainly doing the, like, design document and stuff?
No.
So, as I said before, so Jake and me were working on a VR game and Clayton and
Jad were working on a volumetric video thing. So this software we needed was for the volumetric
video project. So they were investigating like alternatives. So instead of using this
program, they were going to use like DepthKit, which is like a free tool that can only handle
one camera, but it does really good stuff with one camera.
But we wanted to do multi-camera setups,
so they were investigating other... There were some Unity packages
that could support two cameras in Unity,
but then you couldn't really do anything with them.
You could just view the footage.
You couldn't record.
You couldn't change anything.
And the stitching was terrible,
because when you've got two cameras combining their
footage like the midpoint of a person is like really fucking jagged uh it's garbage so yeah
they were just doing stuff like that trying to figure out how to fix all that but they couldn't
fix it because it was all just bad um and while they were doing that, me and Jake were making an actual game. Okay. It looked pretty fucking good at the end of it.
So he actually got something that was a reasonable product,
unlike what I ended up having.
Yeah.
But yeah, so it was kind of a shit, like, concept.
It was, like...
So, Last year,
my project was
firefighters
suffer from PTSD.
Fix it.
Fix it.
Mushrooms.
Yeah.
That was our entire spec.
It was like, yeah, PTSD exists.
Do something in VR to fix it
with this HoloLens we've given you.
And they didn't really say
whether they wanted us to treat
PTSD patients or
figure out who
has the
predisposed
effects to have
PTSD.
It was just kind of the ethics.
Yeah.
And so
we did the best we could.
And at the end of it,
Ross gave me a job to continue
the project as an internship
over 10 weeks. And I'm like,
I hate this project with all my heart,
but if you're going to give me money,
I guess I'm going to accept it.
And then while I was on the internship, he was like, hey, you're going to give me money, I guess I'm going to accept it. And then,
while I was on the internship, he was like, hey,
you've finished your degree now.
You should do
honours. And I was like, no.
I don't want to do honours.
But you should do honours, though. I'm like, no.
Why? That's stupid.
I'd have to write a fucking 10,000
word research report if I did honours.
And he's like, well, no. Technically, you don't have to. If you do hon 000 word research report if i if i did honors and he's like well no
technically you don't have to if you do honors you can do this thing for your software engineering
then you can blah blah blah blah and i'm like oh i guess if you need me to i have to have to do it
but i'm only gonna do it if i get to make a video game for my project and he's like a video game i can sort that out and then i got to i got
to uh um the the start of the semester when i got the email from andrew being like here is your
project vr gamification project and i'm like vr gamification project sounds very similar to the PTSD project that I worked on
last semester. Please, God,
tell me I'm not redoing that
project.
No, you're making a game.
I'm making a VR game
for my project?
A VR rehabilitation game
that uses breathing
to rehabilitate people that have been in trauma.
Oh, fucking hell.
Like, what do you mean?
I thought we talked about this, broth.
I hate mental health, please.
But hey, it's a game.
I have no idea.
Yeah, it's just like, hey, people, when they experience physical or mental trauma,
they'll disconnect with their real body.
Fix it by using breathing!
I don't like it.
I really don't like it.
I couldn't tell.
Then we had to figure out how to cure trauma.
It's just last year, but
again!
I was gonna say that Ross sounds like a bit of a
lad, and then you told me that, and I kind of
take back what I'm saying.
Yeah. He's a good
guy, but he just...
He really likes curing trauma,
but also causing trauma.
To me!
Hey, maybe you can build a project for yourself then
no
no I don't want to do it
look we're done now so
well the report
still needs to be submitted
I'm not done
are you going to have to keep doing any internship
I have a job to continue the project I'm not done Are you going to have to keep doing an internship?
I have a job to continue the project
I want to die
Is that a
I know you and AC like to do a lot of contract work
Is that a contract or is that
full time or something?
It's a contract
Last year when I did it, it was as an intern.
So I got $10 an hour for 300 hours.
This semester, or like this time that I'm doing it,
I'm actually a research assistant.
So instead of getting $10 an hour i get 45 dollars an hour research assistant
is a fucking lucrative position yeah oh yeah and so yeah i'm just combining the project that we
made with a project that another student made which is like a pain museum it's like a yes it's
like a museum of all these different like body parts and then you go into each room and it's
like oh yeah these are all the things that you can experience
and these are the ways that you
get around it.
Yeah, yeah.
Often people come to terms with their body,
but I really don't give
a fucking shit.
I don't know what mental health is.
I don't know how to fix mental health problems.
But it's $45 an hour.
But it's $45 an hour.
Yeah, when I did my position with Wolfgang,
when I was doing that bullshit web dev job,
where I didn't know React
and they wanted me to build a website with React,
yeah, I was doing the same thing.
It's so fucking good.
Because I was doing 20 hours a week for $45 an hour.
My tax bill was massive that year,
but holy crap.
That built up my savings so much
oh talking about savings um i kind of read my contract wrong for teaching and i forgot an
entire line in my contract because my contract has nine lines to each line is a different thing
i get paid for so like the first three lines are the first class I teach,
second class I teach, and third class I teach.
Because I have three classes on Wednesdays,
9 to 11,
12 to 2, 3 to 5.
So each of those is a separate line.
I've got nine lines. Some of them are
assignment marking, exam marking,
assignment 2 marking, all that.
And there's one line that is
continuous assessment. two markings, all that. And there's one line that is continuous
assessment.
Which, I got to the end
of week 12 and I'm like,
what the fuck is continuous assessment?
So I called up the campus
support and I'm like, I don't know what this is.
And they're like, oh,
that's for marking practicals.
And I'm like,
but I mark the practicals in the practicals when I'm teaching them.
So you're telling me for each day that I do a practical,
I get paid six hours to teach practicals.
And then on top of that, I get paid seven and a half hours
to mark the practicals that I just taught.
Yes, I do.
And I get paid the same rate of like $47 an hour to teach and then $47 an hour to mark.
I think I ended up working it out to like
because I get paid like
seven and a half hours for some reason
instead of six hours
for doing the marking.
I get paid $107
an hour to teach
first years.
But I forgot to
claim all my hours until now so i'm claiming literally half of my entire job
like three and a half grand i'm claiming all at once so when that paycheck comes in oh boy
well okay no you don't you don't miss out on like a third of it for now
why would i miss out on a third of it because it's gonna go into your fucking taxes
you got two grand from it yeah but still it's a big big chunk a big chunk to just all get at once
oh my god i'm like why why do i get paid so much? Like, I like it.
I like being paid $107 an hour, but like, why?
Okay, let's just, for the fun of it,
let's just work out what $107 an hour would be
at like doing full-time work.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Like my brother was like really pissed off at me
that I was getting that much.
And like, he's a baker and
he works like 50 hours a week and it's like oh i only get this much money per week and i'm like
yeah but i teach 13 weeks a year so like my yearly revenue would be
actually 13 weeks a semester so 26 weeks a year so i only work like half of the year and i'm still
getting i'll be getting paid like garbage because i get paid $170 an hour, but six hours a week. Yeah.
So it's a lot of money for the work that I put in, but it's just not a lot of money all up.
I couldn't make my full-time job doing six hours a week.
I think you could at $107 an hour.
Yeah, but six hours a week, though.
Mate, I live off like like, 300 and something.
Like, that's fine.
You'll be good.
Yeah.
Anyway, at full time, that would be $4,280 a week.
Not a month, a week.
A month, that would obviously be, like, $16,000-ish.
So, if we just times this value by 52,
that would be $222,560 a year
if you're doing full time
yeah
sounds good
so you know you'd pay
like $100,000 in tax
yeah
yeah
fucking hell yeah I'd like that much Fucking hell.
Yeah, I'd like that much.
That'd be nice.
Given the option, I wouldn't teach first years again, though.
Well, they do sound a bit dumb.
Because first years are a bit stupid.
But my second year that I taught last semester were fine.
What were you teaching there?
I die.
Oh, yes, I die. Interface Design, Inter interface design interaction and experience which is the java effects course and like that was easy
enough like my students already knew java coming into the course and it was just this weird java
library there to learn um and like my practicals then were just um you guys having a group assignment to work on, work on it
in my class.
They had
10 weeks to do the report
and then 3 weeks to learn the library.
Well,
it was a bit different for
us. It was 6 weeks for
the report and then 6 for
the program.
It was like, you guys have a great
personal time on your time
and I am here if you have questions.
But the
practicals that I'm teaching now are
you have code to write
by yourself.
You're allowed to talk to your
friends
but just write your code.
And they just can't.
Yeah, I hate those practicals.
They will line up behind me
and I will give
one person the solution
and no one else
in the huge lineup will listen to that
solution.
Have you considered
just talking in front of a class?
Yeah, I considered it
I teach over three rooms
And so people just don't listen
Yeah, no surprise
Everyone spreads themselves out
I'll be like, okay, if you guys need help fixing this issue come here now i'll fix
it for everyone and then at the end of the class like an hour and a half later someone would be
like hey i have this weird is this weird issue and i'm like yeah i fixed that for everyone else
earlier in the class what do you mean but yeah um so you know i was saying Way back at the start of this That the Mac
Pools were missing software
So they were
Missing Visual
Studio Code on some of them
But some of them
Even though they had VS Code
They didn't have the Python libraries
That we needed installed
And installing libraries was
Really fucky
because like when they installed python onto the max they didn't install python with pip
which is the command line python installer that's the package manager yeah um so
we had to like there was this command that was, like, you know, 100 characters long in the PDF.
We had to copy and paste and then change the your ID here to your ID.
And then hit enter.
And so many people, it was like your ID here in triangle brackets.
People didn't remove the triangle brackets
it's a path to your local files what do you mean you didn't remove the angle brackets
to be fair the angle brackets did confuse me when i was in first year yeah this is why when i do tutorial content i never put in angle brackets because i know
someone's gonna leave them in there just put in like if it's a id here just put in id here and
then at least if you replace that part it's gonna work fine yeah but yeah so there was that, and then you had to go and, like, that was if you were on the Mac
pools, right?
Mm-hmm.
And then you had to do that, and then you had to type pip install iContract, and
then it kind of worked.
As long as you only had one version of Python installed.
If you had multiple versions of Python installed, good luck trying to figure out which one it
was going to install to,
and which one was going to run and execute your file.
So all these
fuckarounds we had to do to get that to work.
And then there was a different fuckaround
for people that were on Windows.
So if you type
pip install iContract,
and then it just works.
It's like, yep, it's successfully installed.
Then you hit run.
For some people, it just would be like,
iContract is not installed.
I was like...
Because when you type pip into the command line,
it doesn't use the currently selected Python version.
It will automatically choose
a version of Python.
So if you're not using
that version to run,
you're fucked.
What version of Python were you guys actually using for the course?
We were using 3.9.
Okay.
But people had 3.9
32-bit and 3.9 64-bit
installed.
Because it default installs both of them.
If you let it install both of them, it installs both of them.
But then some people also had 3.8.5, 3.6, then 2.7.
So what we had to do was go find the actual Python EXE,
You had to go find the actual Python EXE, copy it as a path, paste the full path in,
dash M, pip, insta-y contract, and it would work.
And it's like, the course coordinator didn't test all of this stuff before the prac started.
So the prac started at 9am.
And these people started having errors and I'm like, oh dear lord.
This just worked for me. I did this
yesterday and it just worked for
me. So I didn't even
think that there could be errors.
And of course Gwena didn't think that
either.
No surprises there.
Yeah, that was really fun.
But yeah, also with this course,
what's really fun is I have been teaching myself the course
because this is a brand new course started this semester.
No one has done it yet.
And my qualifications for teaching this course are the same as the qualifications
for the students taking the course which is that i did psp
um so i'm teaching myself each each week practical content by looking at the practical.
Yeah, that's it. I look at the practical and it's like, hey, you need to make a class called this.
And so I make a class called that. Done. You make this function. I made this function.
And then like, oh, you need to do this weird type conversion thing as i go on google google how to type convert python yep that's how you do it cool but you're also not a brainlet who understands how
to use google yeah so many of my students like every single error they had they could have googled
well yeah when it's something like uh cannot concatenate string at end
literally take that error the first thing you see will be someone saying that on stack overflow
yeah yep i don't know why they don't do that um but yeah uh so i taught myself
the practical content tuesday night at like 11pm
and Wednesday morning 9am
I would teach the content
well here's the thing about teaching
something I've learnt
is you only need to
know more than the people you're teaching
yeah
but yeah like some of my students would like come to
class
with like these weird solutions and I'm like,
what the fuck is this?
There was explicit duck typing stuff you could do, but I'm like, that wasn't in the practical,
so I don't know what the fuck that is, so please delete it.
I don't like looking at it.
Have you had anyone who's actually, like, out of any of your students,
who actually knew Python already
and is just doing stupid solutions just to fuck with you?
As far as I know, no.
Okay.
But one of my students
is going to be another rename
that I'm going to type in.
I'm going to call this guy Jimmy.
Because Jai did the same thing back when we had the other
JavaScript course, the web development course. Because Jai would do the same thing back when we had the other JavaScript course,
the web development course, because he'd already done
JavaScript. He'd do these fucking
dumbass solutions just because, lol,
why not?
So, Jimmy, if you're watching this,
you know who you are.
I would walk up to this kid
and be like, okay, Jimmy,
what have you... Oh,
dear God, what are you doing he's like it technically works and
i'm like no it doesn't it runs it doesn't run your function because you've used the wrong name for
the function like yeah it executes your code but not all of the code i was like or like one day he showed me
his code and it's like his code is blue and white if you've used python in a vf code you know that
your code is blue white green yellow orange he didn't have syntax highlighting for some reason. All he had was
blue for class names and everything else was white. I was like, how do you fuck up this bad?
And sometimes I would sit down next to him look at his code and i would just
i would just fucking walk away and like oh my god
i like all right friends with him we talk on discord every now and then. I add him in the AGPU Discord and call him out on his garbage
programming.
But yeah. His code
is fucking disgusting.
Fun times.
I actually do have two viewers that are at UniSA,
so maybe one of them
knows who Jimmy is.
Yeah, possibly.
But yeah, I've also got
students that are like they like really i i know that
they don't understand what they're doing but they're trying and like week eight actually no
so so i only taught like week one to seven and then eight nine were done with design studios for a different course.
They didn't even have Python
for those weeks or for holidays.
When we got back and started
doing classes again, I was like,
please, dear God,
I was making progress with
Jeremy.
Sure.
I was making progress with Jeremy
in like week seven, and he
started understanding what I was saying.
When I said, make a
variable
called myString,
he would type
self.myString equals,
and then he would type
quotes,
and this is a string.
And then we got back to week 10 when we started again,
and I said, make a variable called mystring,
and he goes, what?
I'm like, no!
I thought we were doing good.
Have you been writing down like
Who each of your fake names equals
Yeah so I've got Jeremy
Jimmy and wait I've got Jerry
Jimmy and Jeremy
I only just noticed that you've been
Every time you say a new name you just went and typed something
To see if you keep your story straight
Yeah
So that I know if I'm talking about
Jeremy I know who that is
I don't know about Jimmy
Oh fuck Jimmy
That's too much effort
Yeah well I don't want to like
Out them
Well you could just give them different fake names
That's what I'm doing.
No, I mean, like, every time you mention them
in a story.
But then Jimmy seems
less dumb than he is.
Okay, that's fair, yeah. You want to make sure
everyone knows that you're specifically talking about Jimmy.
Yeah. Yeah, I get that. That's fine.
But yeah.
I got a lot of students
I've got this one student
I am going to out this student
Drew Hutton
I love that boy
Drew Hutton
comes to my classes
with the practical finished
and then he helps
the rest of the class
finish the practical
he like
he's essentially
like an extra teacher
like I'll
I'll walk up to him
and he's got a line of students
behind him, and I've got a line of students
behind me.
Or, like, we'll just be talking
and, like, everyone's, like, just doing their work.
We'll just be chatting about
things and stuff.
And I shouldn't come up to him and ask for help
and I'm like, excuse me, sorry, I'm the teacher
here. Come to me, not him.
I'm the one getting paid $107 an hour.
Exactly.
Yeah, I was, for what, one year I did that,
and then I realized, wait,
I'm not getting paid enough to do this, and I just leave.
Yeah.
I can't expect him to keep doing that.
Yeah, well, I told
the course coordinator about it, and I'm like,
this boy is so good,
so smart,
is there any extra credit I can give him?
Because he's done so much work
for me, he's taken so much stress off my shoulders.
And he was like, oh yeah, I can recommend
him for becoming
a tutor for the course.
I'm like, fuck yeah. I've told yeah, I can recommend him for becoming a tutor for the course. I'm like, fuck yeah.
I've told him I'll recommend him for
PASS if he wants to be a PASS tutor.
And the course coordinator
will give him recommendations for
actually teaching the course next year
or whatever.
That's awesome.
I think the same thing happened with
Jai as well, with PSP.
Oh, yeah.
Because I think, yeah, at the time he was already doing his Jango work.
So he already obviously knew Python.
Yeah, he was working at the bank, right?
Westpac.
Yeah, yeah, at the time.
Oh, no.
No, yeah, he was still doing... No, maybe he didn't know. No, he wasn't doing Jango stuff then. He was still at Westpac. Yeah, yeah, at the time. Oh, no. No, yeah, he was still doing...
No, maybe he didn't, no. No, he wasn't doing Django
stuff then, he was still at Westpac.
Because he was doing VB stuff back then.
Maybe it was second year he was at Westpac.
Because eventually he got himself
to StudyLink, and that's when he started
doing Django stuff.
Okay, yeah. No, I think that must have been
second year then, because I know he was...
I know he did move from Westpac to StudyLink.
That's been like an hour, 20 of you just ranting about your students.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Exactly what I wanted to do today, rant about students.
I rant about my students so much, which is why I dislike it
that some of my students are part of ATPU.
Because I'll finish a class,
I'll kick down the door of ATPU,
and I'm like,
hey guys, my students are in the room.
Start a new club.
Better club.
Yeah.
The students that go in there
like
oh Jimmy
Jimmy goes in there
and I'd be like
hey guys
I had this really dumb student today
and I could glare at Jimmy
and he's like
it wasn't that bad today okay
last week was worse
and I'm like
yeah
you're technically correct Jimmy
yeah that sounds uh sounds fun and really shit at the
same time yeah but yeah um students give me like feedback because i'm a teacher feedback
to thing isn't it yeah so i was like too scared to look at my
my feedback last semester because i failed so many fucking students last semester
because so many students like all like the indian and asian students like handed up
absolute dog shit code and like the interfaces were ugly as fuck
um or like they were just copied straight off the
internet so i failed a lot of students that semester so i was so scared of looking at my
stuff like oh my teacher didn't teach me anything um but i looked at the other day it was so good
like i think i had um 10 very positive and 1 positive feedback.
What's the...
This is something I've been curious about. What actually is
the general feedback rate?
So I had
11 students out of
60 last semester.
Okay.
I'll go look at them now
for this semester, but yeah, this semester
yeah, you know,
a little bit worse.
So I think when I looked at it, I had 10 feedbacks and like three of them were negative.
And as opposed to the like 10, a very positive and one positive.
How negative?
So each of the questions you answer,
you go like strongly disagree, disagree, neutral, agree, strongly agree.
And I got like two disagree, one strongly disagree.
Do you have an OBS set up for screen sharing? And I got like two disagree, one strongly disagree. Ooh.
Do you have an OBS set up for screen sharing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
If it's a picture, then I can do it.
Oh, are you going to do it with your...
I was just going to screen share my feedback.
Oh, yeah.
It's all anonymous.
Yeah, because it'll replace your webcam, so it's fine.
Okay. I've got to remember how to actually get into it. Hopefully.
Watch this course, Comp 1046.
Either that or it's going to break everything.
Evaluations. Open my course experience. Also, what I love about the
UniSA websites is all the websites are
different websites so you've got to like put your passwords back in whenever you change websites
it's great isn't it yep and imagine being a student and a staff member at the same time
i know it's great isn't it cookies what are cookies if it does keep your
webcam here just disable the webcam that should take your spot okay let's uh yeah
okay it's gonna take your spot so just disable the webcam okay I didn't fix
anything now you just got deep fried Nick okay so what we're gonna
do is we're gonna take this one here and we're going to oh god this is a fucking
dumb idea
can I
I can't I can't fix it.
Oh, wait, no, I'm pressing the wrong button.
That's why.
Okay, I think we've got something now.
Yeah, this... Okay, yeah, cool, cool.
Yeah, you can show stuff now. right so yeah this this this is my
responses so it's like uh people were satisfied with me as a teacher but then like yeah i i didn't
support their learning one student said uh one student said i didn't help understand the key
concepts of the course and yeah i didn't make the course interesting.
One person was strongly against that.
But then it's like, yeah.
How could the staff member improve their teaching?
Don't spend too much time on individual students.
I had to because the individual students that I was with
didn't know what a Python was.
People waited for a full
hour to get the attention they needed.
Stand up and line up
behind me like everyone else did.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
But yeah, and then I got these
nice ones. Nick's very intelligent
and explains stuff as well. He's very helpful
and I feel like he wants me to do well. Friendly guy
and makes class comfortable for me.
Like, aw.
Yeah, most...
I guess most people
probably just don't bother with feedback. It's either
if it's really bad or really good.
Yeah.
That's just fair.
I like looking at the positive ones
The negative ones, I'm just kind of like
You're an idiot
Here's the thing
When you do YouTube stuff, you just get these
Negative comments all of the time
So you kind of get used to it
That's my suggestion, make YouTube videos
And get used to people being douches
Yeah, I feel like
Since I've started teaching I've gotten a lot better at
speaking publicly um because i used to get really really like anxious now i don't really fucking
care yeah well you're speaking more publicly so honestly honestly obviously you're gonna get better
uh yeah yeah but yeah like when I went into my first class
for I die I was like
oh my god they're going to hate me
I'm going to stutter constantly
and then I went into my first class
and I'm like
I gotta do this again really
it was kind of more of an annoyance
that I have to talk
over like
oh no I'm going to fuck up up i'm gonna say the wrong thing
well i think the it's a bit harder to see with you because the practicals aren't recorded but
i've gone back and i did i i noticed how much i fuck up with my current my current content but
when i go back and look at like how i was a year or so ago i realized how
much worse i was back then and once you've actually taken notice of that you realize oh
yeah actually trying to improve this tiny little bit each time as you go on that's going to make
massive improvements and like with you trying actually trying to speak publicly you're going
to get better at it even if it feels
like when you get to a point
where you have to actually do something public
that it's not any better at all
yeah well yeah like
when I had to
give presentations for like ICT project
and for cloud and for
architecture like I
like I prepared like
hell before the presentation because i'm like oh
no i'm gonna be so anxious but i got into it i was perfectly fine like i read off my script
it was easy like i just kind of i'm still in the mindset that it's hard even though it isn't
the nice thing about the presentations this year is none of mine were in person
except the first CT presentation I had.
So,
they were all online on Zoom.
Yep. And we had to screen share our presentation,
but I have two monitors.
So we did this
great little cheat,
which was I screen
shared my second monitor
that had the presentation on it to the
Zoom call. I screen shared my main monitor, had the presentation on it to the Zoom call. I screen shared
my main monitor, which had the presenter
mode,
to my Discord
mates. We all
watched my stream, and I
went through the slides, and then we
had the presenter notes
section of PowerPoint,
which has our entire script in it.
So we can just read off the entire script,
hit next, and the Zoom calls none the wiser
because there's no cameras.
So I'm staring directly at the notes,
reading line for line my script,
and then next slide.
It made the presentations an absolute joke,
but it made them so easy.
Yeah, yeah. I would have hated to do all those
presentations I had to do because
I think the last ICT one was like
15 minutes or something stupid
yeah it was 10 to 15
minutes now 15 minutes
I think we got in
ours so we did
two separate ones because our project and the other
project um but we did 12 minutes for ours in ours. We did two separate ones, because our project and the other project.
How did that work?
Yeah, it didn't really work.
Sorry, because
we made a game, and they
tried to
make a piece of software.
We presented our software,
and they presented our game, and they presented
their solution.
Right.
But yeah, so we did like a 12 minute presentation and they did like a 14 minute,
58 second presentation.
It was like right in on the edge of the time.
At least they didn't try to make you like merge it all together into one presentation.
They wanted us to and I was like, um, we're two separate
projects, though, so, like, can we not do that,
please? Why were you in the same group, then?
Uh, the
intention was, at the end,
we would combine the two, so
we would eventually have a
rehabilitation game that
a doctor could livestream their
actual body into
and talk to the patient while they're
being rehabilitated okay but it didn't end up working because the fucking all the issues that
we mentioned before about the uni being slow and the program not working yeah hmm that's actually
a cool idea but it honestly anything more complex than, like, something...
Really, something like I did is going to fall apart.
Yeah, I don't know why they expect, like,
people that haven't touched any of this kind of tech before
to make a fully in-depth working thing.
Like, we hadn't dealt with
even putting a webcam
into Unity yet.
And they wanted us to do
rendering your entire body
using four different cameras.
Yeah.
And they're fucking depth-based cameras
which output really weird shit.
At least with mine, a lot of it was even though i've never
done vr stuff for most of what i was doing was standard vr sort of interactions so it was like
add teleportation add a laser pointer i have um vr user interfaces things like that things that
even though exactly like my exact project,
there's nothing for,
it's still a standard component,
or still a standard idea,
and you can sort of adapt it to what you're doing.
Yeah, yeah.
Ours was very, very non-standard.
It was all weird things that you wouldn't...
All very researchy.
Yeah, and you couldn't just Google it,
and be like, oh yeah, this person's used this camera before.
How do I add three depth cameras into unity it's kind of like it's kind of like bleeding edge technology
so no one's really made full in-depth guides on how to do anything with it yet
so i can't just like look it up it's i have to experiment constantly fuck that yeah constantly. Fuck that. Yeah.
Indeed.
So,
your sleep seems to be a little bit fucked, because you said you were having
breakfast just before we started recording.
What? It was 11am.
You don't have breakfast at like
10.50? No, I don't have breakfast at
10.50.
I had breakfast at like 10.50? No, I don't have breakfast at 10.50. I had breakfast at like 1 yesterday.
PM, yeah.
Yes.
I told my mate the other day that I woke up at 1 and he was like,
oh, bro, that's so shit.
You woke up at 1 and I'm like, yeah, PM.
He was like, oh like oh pm what the fuck
but yeah so um i just um when i'm not doing uni or something that i have to be up at 9am for
every day i just sleep until i want to get up and I don't ever want to get up because life is so trash
why would I want to leave the comfort of my bed I don't know cuz we do things
during your day like what I'll play video games yeah I forgot yeah video
games yeah I am a't played them in a while
yeah
right before I started teaching
I was getting up at like
2 or 3
in the afternoon every day
and going to bed at
2 or 3am
wait
I'm sorry
you slept for 12 hours?
It was...
I had never slept that well.
It was so good.
I bet, yeah.
Probably would be, but you're so fucking wasting literally half of your day.
Yeah, I know.
I would, like, wake up and mum would be getting home from work.
And she was like, oh, so how was your day?
And I'm like, no, my day hasn't been yet.
I haven't had breakfast yet.
Oh, God.
See, I can get what Kenley did.
Kenley would fucking have his, have his time zone flipped upside down.
He'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm just waking up at 6 p.m.,
but he stays up till, like, 6 a.m. as well.
Yeah.
Like, 8 a.m. or whatever.
Like, he would spend his entire day, but it'd be his night.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, I would just sleep
half the day.
But then I started teaching, and then I
had to get up at 7am, because I
have to take the hour and a half bus
to uni.
And I started teaching at 9am.
So, that
was fun. So what you're saying is
as soon as, like,
assignment marking and classes
and everything's all done,
you're going to just let it slip back into 2pm?
I've already started
getting up at 1pm.
I had to set an alarm
this morning in order to be up
before 1.
You know we could have just set the podcast
at 1pm.
Yeah, but then I also have to talk to
my other boss. That's fair. have just set the podcast at 1pm. Yeah, but then I also have to talk to my
other boss.
That's fair.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Now, for me, I am in bed
at 12am
and I'm up at
8am every day.
Except when I
stand outside of work ranting
about my boss until 2 in the morning
and then I'm up a bit later.
Because my new fucking boss is shit.
Yeah.
He thinks I'm his best friend as well,
which is also fun.
Because he'll tell me manager-y things
and talk shit about the staff.
I'm like, mate, I want to fucking deck you.
Stop fucking talking to me.
Yeah.
I had friends like that
at Big Dub. I have
taken this entire semester off Big Dub,
so I haven't been there.
Oh, so you are still working there?
I'm still working there, technically, but
yeah, I haven't had a shift
since, like, August. Okay.
That makes sense. Or even probably earlier than August.
I'm sure you're not missing it with $107 an hour.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I kind of want to go back,
because I don't want to fucking deal with students anymore,
but I also, like, don't want to go to, like, $20 an hour.
It's really a tough decision.
Would you be working during the day?
At Big Dub I'd be working at night.
Oh, what's more than 20 an hour?
It's like 25.
Yeah, yeah, probably.
But like 25 or like 45 normally
or 100 is what I'm on now.
And also,
when I'm at Biggie Dub,
I have to bastard my guts.
Running
constantly, always on the forklift
getting shit down for customers.
Always re-wrapping pallets
and sprinting around the pallet with the wrap.
This is where you're fucked up. You need to be doing Nightfell over at
Coles, because we're
chill as hell we are not chill as hell on night fill the big dub like big dub is getting budget
cuts constantly so we need to be constantly getting faster and faster yeah the new manager
is like oh uh so he came in first day he He was like, okay, so you know how we're doing?
I think pallets were taking an hour or something.
He's like, okay, cut 15 minutes off of that.
And everyone's like, no, because we were getting everything done.
Wait, how many people do you take to do a pallet in an hour?
It's one person.
One person.
Yeah, for an hour.
But that's also including, like, taking the pallet in and out of the back as well.
Yeah.
So that adds an extra five or so minutes.
Plus, if you need to...
I thought you were saying your team does the pallet in an hour.
I'm like, what?
No, no.
No, it's one person.
Anyway, he was like, yeah, so even though
on the hours that corporate
tells us we need to hit,
we're getting everything done. He's like, no, cut
15 minutes off of that. It's like,
no, no, we're not doing that.
So everyone just kept working at the same pace and no
one gives a crap.
Yeah.
I don't think we could do that.
He can't complain too much if the work's getting done but the um the worst thing
about it is he pretended like the like grocery manager told him that he has to cut the time down
and i happen to know other people who work in management and she was like yeah no he did the
grocery manager never said that that's a lie and. And I went and told all of the night fillers that.
I was like, hey, this guy's fucking messing with all of you.
And all of them hate him already.
And that just made them hate him even more.
I was like, okay, well, fuck him then.
But he's doing things that are trying to get himself fired anyway,
like training people in the electric pallet jack
when he's legally not allowed to do that,
and that could lose him his job.
I found
out right before I left
that I technically
wasn't allowed to be training people
to use the baler.
Really?
The baler's a...
That's not really that big of a deal, is it?
You need to be on the safety team
to train someone to use the baler.
Huh.
I'm not on the safety team.
I probably trained half the people
that know how to use a baler at Big Dope.
Because I learned when I was 15
how to do it from one of the guys
who was on the safety team.
And then he left.
And then I trained everyone else.
I would have thought you guys would have a compactor that's weird
oh yeah
it's a big big compactor
baler thingy
balers and compactors are a bit different
what's the difference
um
that's fucking good question
a baler when you want to empty it it'll turn into
like a hay bale sort of thing yep that's the one okay and a compactor basically it gets compacted
down and then gets pushed into a truck yeah no no so so so we've got a baler okay we've got a
tie it off and become yeah yeah that's a baler um yeah we've got like a ret off and become a big baler um
yeah we've got to like re-tie it and shit
it's real fucking annoying
when I have to do like two bales
in a row like my hands are all fucking
torn up to shreds because
the bale just like cuts into you
I'm lucky enough that
I've only dealt with coals where
they're big enough where they
need to have a
compactor and small enough where a baler isn't that big of a deal yeah like if if you only go
through like one or two bales a day like yeah balers are completely fine then yeah we we go
through like two a day okay but yeah then like when we've got to get him into the truck
it's real fun
because we've got to like
put him on the side
and like roll them off
yeah that's not my job
we just put the bales outside
and then someone else can deal with it
yeah that's like the garbage truck guy
will just like reverse up
and be like yep put him in
I don't know if that's a day job or if that's just like the baylor truck man that does it fucked if i know i'm not
there in the morning yeah we've got we've got a doc guy called johnny who does all that stuff
oh yeah okay but we'll help him because he's he's like a relatively old man now he He's in his 50s. 50s isn't really that old anymore.
Yeah.
But like late 50s.
Anyway.
But yeah.
Yeah, we also got
very specific
rules. Like, you can't
lift a pallet unless you've got someone else lifting it with you.
But like when I was there.
You just pick up the pallet, you put got someone else lifting it with you but like when I was there you just
pick up the pallet
you put it up on your hip like this
and you just fucking put it up on the stack
yeah I sort of hurt my wrist
the other day and now
because everyone in this store
just picks up the pallets by themselves
and the management sort of takes it for granted
so I hurt my wrist
and I was just like okay I'm just not going to lift them up and's like oh can you like lift up pals like nope you can help me i'm
not doing it because you're not allowed to do it and the man just can't tell you to lift it up like
that if you decide to be a dumbass and do it that's fine but so i'm just like okay i hurt my
wrist i'm not doing it they can go on the floor you can help me if you want to pick that up yeah yeah that just reminded me of a story
but I think I've already told a story on the podcast before
I don't know we'll find out
okay
well I already forgot the story
the only story I can think of you told
is this year's story
okay
new name I remember J name Jeremiah you told us this yesterday. Okay. New name.
What's the J name?
Jeremiah.
Jeremiah. So Jeremiah,
right?
So Jeremiah
once, he's my
manager at Big Dub, was like
I was doing a
field shift, like a a field shift
a day field shift
normally we do night field
back in the day it was like 7 to
12
I was doing a day field
1 to 7 just to get everything prepared
for night field so when they came in
all the pallets were down
they were all in the spot they needed to be
the ones that needed to be broken down into cages were in cages and the cages were ready to get run out onto the floor i
when i was like very young when i was like 15 16 i worked my fucking ass off because i like
wanted the job because i wanted money now i just kind of i'm not gonna fire me i like i worked really
hard because i needed the job i needed money i wanted to play warframe i needed to spend money
on plan i needed i needed to open up my wallet and waste money on this fucking game that was
literally my first paycheck 80 went straight into platinum on warframe were you you at least waiting for the discount codes or discount ticket thingies you get
on Warframe?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I got my paycheck and then immediately there was a discount.
I'm like, fuck yeah, let's go!
But yeah, so I did my entire six hours worth of work in four hours.
And Jeremiah, is there anything I can
do? And he's like, oh, you can sweep the dock. So I swept the dock in like 10 minutes and it was
spotless. Because I'm like, I sweep at home. I know how to use the room, dude. And then he's
like, oh, you can do this thing and then this thing and i did all those things really quickly
i'm like anything else to do i've got four hours left i'm ready to go i'm hyped i'm on energy and
he's like um now nick technically i can't ask you to go home early yeah i'm like yeah you can't it's like yeah yeah i'm legally not allowed to ask you to go home early and i
hated jeremiah jeremiah was the worst fucking boss i've ever had i can't ask you to go home early
i can't they because because like i've already been like assigned this shift i've already signed
in they've got to give me
24 hours notice
if they want to change my shift.
That's weird, because Colesburg is
happy to send you home early. That's interesting.
Nah.
We need 24 hours.
So, yeah.
I hate Jeremiah. He made me
clean up a shit. I'm fairly sure I told that story.
I'm fairly sure that's part of the clip stories.
But yeah, he's like,
Nick, I can't ask you to go.
And so I'm like playing
with him. I knew what he was asking
me. I'm like,
I could go home early if you
want me to. If you want me to go home early,
I can leave now. He's like, Nick,
I can't. and i'm like hey jeremiah i finished all my work can i go home early he's like yeah sure you can
please get out i was gonna ask did you just, stick around for the next four hours or something?
I played with him for, like, a minute.
He kept getting, like, slower every time he repeated,
Nick, I can't ask you to go home early.
Like, every single time, he kept saying it slower and slower.
And then I just caved.
I'm like, yeah, I'll go home.
That's fine.
I had my fun. I'm like, yeah, I'll go home. That's fine. I had my fun.
Oh, fuck.
There's a few times I have gone home early at
Coles. There was one time where
I don't know how it happened
but I think we were like three or four hours
ahead and I was like, um,
I don't want to be here. I've got better
things to do. And I was like, okay.
And the manager's like, oh yeah, well
that's fine. Go. We don't need you here. And I was like, okay. And the manager's like, oh, yeah, well, that's fine.
Go.
We don't need you here anyway.
I was like, cool, we can do that.
So I think I was trying to get assignments done at the time anyways.
Like, fuck it.
I have better things to do than be here.
And I had done my hours to get my bills and stuff paid that week anyways.
Like, eh.
Yeah.
But, yeah, like, on Thursday, like, I was trying to get my give me one
sec guys if you didn't know Brody's real name is Brody Robertson it's true he
doesn't want anyone to know he thinks it's a really smart pseudonym.
But it isn't.
Don't worry, you don't need to edit out the section in the middle there,
because I didn't say anything weird to your fans, don't worry.
I'll see how much of it was silent and I'll leave the rest that wasn't.
Ah, shit.
Anyway, shit. Anyway, um, yes.
Uh,
was there, was there a story
you were continuing, or, what'd you do?
Uh,
I said, I'm going home, bye.
And that was it. Oh, okay, no, I thought there was, uh,
I mean, like, the story you were
saying before. I thought you might have finished that as...
The, the Baylor one? Yeah, I told a bunch of people how to use a Baylor. No, I mean, like the story you were saying before. I thought you might have finished that as... The Bela one?
Yeah, I told a bunch of people how to use a Bela.
No, I mean, there's a story that I cut you off
as you were about to start it.
Oh.
I don't remember.
I started watching YouTube,
and my brain has just been wiped clean.
Yonder, I never just scored band speedruns.
Speaking of
YouTube, I
hear you like
Gura.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I
don't actually
watch Gogura.
I have a
friend who's
into all the
VTuber trash.
But I
watched Gorgura
before she was
Gorgura. Yes. I watchedura before she was Gorgura
Yes
I watched her before she was cool
Yeah it's sort of like an open
Secret who Gorgura is at this point
Everyone is well aware of who she is
Yeah
But yeah
I just want her to make music
Well she did
Do a cover.
She did do a cover of Country Road.
Yeah.
If you go and look at the original video at, what is it, 49 seconds?
There's an A in the middle of the screen.
46 seconds. And it's like, it prophesied the future.
I'm waiting for a drunk cover now
that's all we need
not drunk
it's blitzed
blitzed
doesn't get drunk
I was about to say
she was a child
but she's not a child
she's like 9000 years old
or 5000 or 2000 whatever number she decides today yeah indeed I was going to say she was a child, but she's not a child. She's like 9,000 years old. Or 5,000 or 2,000.
Whatever number she decides today.
Yeah, indeed.
But yeah, so...
Did I send you the feet pics?
No, I didn't.
So I...
Alright.
I need context.
You know how I'm talking about about zach the guy who forgot how to
speak english sure um so i sent him this this picture uh that you may or may not want to censor
for uh for uh for the stream uh of of gargara that i found on the garagara Know Your Meme page. And it's Gagara with feet.
And I
sent it to Zach, and I'm like,
why the fuck does this exist?
And he's like,
what?
Hawaii shark feet.
And I'm like,
yeah, probably shouldn't share that one.
You fucking degenerate. Zach. You fucking degenerate.
Zach, you fucking degenerate.
No, protect the lolly and look respectfully.
We need some sort of original music.
We need something.
We know she can make shitty music.
Yeah.
She just...
So, have you heard Niana's album, Magic Circuit?
I didn't know she had an album.
I've only heard her cover of So So.
Her Magic Circuit album isn't like a meme music album.
It's like an actual good album.
And Zach, who is a fan of all the trash YouTubers,
didn't know this either.
What did you say it was called?
Magic Circuit.
Magic Circuit.
There are two songs that
aren't in the album that
are very similar, which is
Lip and Quiet Rooms.
But yeah,
I fucking love that album.
It's been out for three years, so two years?
Yeah.
The fuck?
How did I not know about this?
I know.
I listen to it all the time.
It's a little bit depressing.
When you
read into all the lyrics, it kind of
sounds like the entire album's about
breakups but like that's how i read into it you might you might not read into it into it the same
but yeah i love that album um but yeah then thanks for i actually gotta thank you because
zach is really liking demon dice now he knows demon dice is a thing yes uh because yeah when
when you sent me the the the demon dice uh i think with alcat a thing yes uh because yeah when when you sent me the the
the demon dice uh i think with alcatraz you sent me yeah yeah i thought i thought it right to zach
because he he fucking loves uh aliope is that is that how her name's actually pronounced uh
okay so there's a weird thing about callie's name so it in english it's calliope but if you spell it in katakana it's calliope
oh yeah yeah and um she was actually on the trash taste podcast the other day with uh gig
arc and the anime man and yeah i i saw that on twitter but i didn't actually watch the
trash podcast you should it's fucking great um anyway i guess SeadogVA is on there as well,
but he's less important.
Anyway.
I mean, he's part of Trash Taste.
He is, but also,
I didn't even know about him until that podcast.
You didn't know about him until it?
No.
Anyway.
I started watching him a bit later than that.
Yeah.
They asked her about the name,
and yeah, she doesn't know herself. She's like i i didn't think that far ahead anyway yeah i i highly highly recommend demon dice um
alcatraz is an amazing album but i recommend also going back and listening to some of our old stuff, like Red, Black and White and American Psychodrome.
Especially American Psychodrome.
It is absolute fucking trash and I love it.
I fucking love Gang Gang Kawaii.
Gang Gang Kawaii is a masterpiece.
Yeah.
Wait, if I click on this, is Spotifyify gonna try to play it no cool uh but
i also really recommend um speak of the devil is also good or speak of devil
and uh hell bento is also a good one
but all basically all of her tracks are good yeah yeah i'd say the one that hit me the hardest was
uh you're an ace kid
because that's sort of about i don't know if you've heard that one or not if you know if you
have you actually gone and listened to much demon dice stuff besides the ones i said so
as i was about to say um i have been just been doing assignments constantly lately so i
have pretty much the only demon dice music that i've heard is like i've finished assignments
and then i've gone into the discord and zach is playing demon dice songs i'm like yep
that's so uranace kid is basically about um how she realized that she wanted to
go and be a rapper but all of her her like fake friends around who was like hey you
like come out to the parties and do all of this but like fake friends around who was like hey you like come out
to the parties and do all of this but she's like no i'm i'm dedicated to getting like following my
dream and actually becoming something from this and that that song sort of like hit me pretty hard
i really recommend that one if you can listen to nothing else uh uranace kid is amazing
all right but callie's new stuff is also really good as well yeah i haven't actually
listened to any of callie's music um i i was not not cardi b maury calliope
we'll see if we can actually keep this podcast going for another
10 minutes before i have to go again um i don't know we'll probably end it off sometime soon
anyway because we're a bit past two hours.
Anyway, yes, we're talking about Calliope.
Yeah, yeah, so I
said I haven't actually listened to any of
Calliope's music, and then immediately after,
I'm like, oh wait, no, I've listened to
Excuse My Rudeness, but Can You Please Rip.
That is an amazing track.
Specifically because
Zach keeps putting it in the fucking rhythm bot
when we're playing League
but yeah that's her
only song that I can heard
is that the only song
she's made?
uh
no she's got an entire EP
she released
like her debut week
okay
wait
none like Joshua
made a
made a remix of
Keen Peas Rip?
uh I think he entered
yeah he entered the contest
I think he was one of the
yeah yeah
like
I I think he was one of the I think
he was one of the top 10 contestants.
Yeah,
his video is in the
top 15 playlist on the channel.
Ah, okay, that's what you're looking at. Cool, yeah.
Oh, yeah, top 15, I guess.
But yeah, no, she's got
Shitsudeshimasu ga shinde
kudasai, which is the one you mentioned.
Live again, or live again, however you decide to call it i know right um that's her general outro music then dead beats
dead beats is a weird one i recommend dead beats oh yeah i may have heard dead beats give me a sec
uh and the last one in the original
EP is Reaper Rapper
that was her
introduction song
yeah I have her deadbeats because
once again RhythmBot
Zach
he just pasted an entire playlist in RhythmBot
deadbeats jerk it now
deadbeats jerk it now
exactly
and then her new track Cursed Night is really good as well Jerk it now. Deadbeat, jerk it now. Exactly.
And then her new track,
Cursed Night,
is really good as well.
Yeah.
I'll have to look at this shit later.
Yeah, you absolutely do.
Yeah.
I have to do homework
by watching
Anime Girl Thing.
Oh, damn.
Oh, no.
How will you ever survive?
Now, if you want a really good cover of her contest song,
I recommend going and listening to Boogie Vox's version.
Boogie Vox? Yeah, Boogie Vox.
Alright.
They, um,
a rapping
VTuber Jilo,
and they
decided to not just cover the
song, they also wrote some of their
own lyrics for it.
Okay. And
holy shit, it. Okay. And, holy
shit, it's good.
I wish it had run, but
I think Nyato
got first place.
Yeah.
I don't know
who Nyato is.
A pretty big
remixer.
Okay.
Good, it's not a VTuber.
No. I hate VTubers.
VTubers.
I've been
very much against
Hatsune Miku
for ages, because it's
trash.
Illumiku's stuff is pretty bad though
but yeah
but then when I
when I put
the Magic Circuits album
into a rhythm bot
Zach's like
wait
this song has
Hatsune Miku in it
I thought you hated Miku
I'm like
shut the fuck up
this song's good
but Nyanas
Nyanas
makes it better
what do you love more
your what's more important your love for Nyanas or it better What do you love more What's more important
Your love for Nyanas or your hatred
For Miku
Nyanas
I also at the same time that I put
That good album in
I put in like everybody in the club getting tipsy
And um
Pomp Pomp Kimichi
Very sad that she delete those songs,
but we have backups.
The backups will always be saved.
Also, it took me like an hour
the other day to try and find
It's the Nutshack
by these cute anime girls.
Because that video
does not exist on YouTube.
There's like one video of it but the audio has been been like claimed um so actually like on a
on the on the claimed audio video there was a comment with a link to a facebook post that I finally have this. I need this.
Why does she have to, like,
rebrand to remove the N-word from all the songs?
And all of the
incest.
Jeez.
So what's the deal with your hatred for most of Hololive?
Just grown men pretending to be anime girls.
Definitely not grown men.
Except for...
Except for...
Gorgor, obviously.
Except for literally every single one of them.
Blue Gremlin.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just...
I just don't
like the concept of simping
to an anime character
that isn't even an anime
character.
It's like
I simimp to
certain anime characters.
Especially, uh,
Kurisutina!
She's the best anime character.
Ever. Don't at me.
Um,
but, like, just
human beings that
think they're anime characters?
Yucky.
Nah, it's fun.
You're missing out.
You're going to miss out on the big wave of VTubers taking over YouTube.
Yeah.
But yeah, I did try to join Gogura's Minecraft stream, like, two days ago.
And, I don't know, it wasn't Minecraft.
It was, she was doing singing
it was the stream that the
Country Roads cover came from
and right as I joined the stream
it was like, alright, thanks everyone for watching
yeah, I did the same thing
I was like, no
I've been waiting all this time
for Gorilla to put out music
and now that she's got a fucking stream
I'm gone.
But the Clippers are at it.
The Clippers have everything saved.
Yeah, and Gorgor has got all her VODs
uploaded on YouTube.
Well, certain streams are unarchived.
I can't imagine that one's archived.
Typically the singing streams aren't
archived so they can actually do songs that
they would get copyright claimed for uh possibly yeah because in um it is not there yeah
i think because what did kiara do in her first one
um i know she did some things that would definitely get copyright claimed.
Oh, she did Bluebird, one of the Naruto openings. Oh yeah. Is that the good
opening? Is that the the 4th Frank opening? Which one? Is Bluebird the Frank one? It's not.
What?
You know...
Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh, um... I know which one you're talking about.
I'm just gonna, like, look up
Doocy Frank Naruto, and, um...
See, I'm gonna get copyright claim if I do that.
Actually, you know what? I'm just gonna go into
my... It's in my fucking
Wii Blast shit playlist.
It'll be the one naruto opening in here it is not in here apparently maybe the video that i had in there got claimed because like
half the video in my wee blast shit playlist is claimed no the best naruto opening is distance.
Just Google Naruto distance.
Give me the first fucking two seconds tell me you don't love it.
I don't love it.
You are my friend.
No, he know you may.
How can you not love it?
Because it's...
I just don't like it.
It's not hype enough. It's trash.
It's trash. It's great.
Exactly. It's bad.
But it's not the first
Naruto opening.
Rocks.
Great song. Absolutely love it. I need to go finish naruto i'm thinking
i'm still on the fucking tune in the exam that's how early in naruto i am
yeah i don't watch trash anime
i mean that's no fun again correction i watch sword art online but i don't watch other trash anime speaking of
sao um did you see the trailer for progressive progressive i haven't seen the trailer yet
i i did i did send you that link thing hey progressive is getting adapted
it yeah we all thought it was going to be a series but it's going to be a movie a movie hmm like it's gonna look good but i i wish that progressive got a
moot i got a series sorry yeah
oh great no no new footage it's all just
actually i'm like no that rain scene might be new. No, it's all new stuff. It's just the exact same scenes, just redone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it looks like stuff we've seen before.
Also, Arsena is considerably more important now, which is good.
What?
She was really important before.
She died at the end, remember?
That was the most important thing she ever did.
Arsena was, was like a side character
at best for most of Aincrad.
Yeah.
And then there was basically no
explanation for why they fell in love. It's just like, oh yeah,
they like each other now. That's cool.
We watched a guy die together.
That's love, right?
Two years
worth of semen.
Oh, I love that I said that to one of my mates the other day when we were talking about Sword Art Online
and he didn't know what it was
and I got to explain it to him
for anyone who doesn't know
look up
Sword Art Online chapter 16.5
12.5? what is it?
16.5
basically it's the scene where Album of the Line chapter 16.5. 12.5? What is it? 16.5. Yeah.
Basically, it's the scene where
Asuna and Kirito fucked,
but it's explained in weird detail.
Like, two and a half years of Semen
flowed into Asuna.
Yeah.
And, like, that isn't how Semen works.
No.
It doesn't just build up constantly. It builds up to a max in, like, that isn't how Semen works. No. It doesn't just build up constantly.
It builds up to a max in, like, a day.
Also, I don't know how much performance you get inside of a video game.
I imagine, like, you can probably customize that.
Maybe that's part of your character creation.
Yeah.
I mean, as well, like, it's inside the game, and he implemented cum?
Yeah, so basically, Kirito just nutted in his bed.
Yeah?
Or, like, if he didn't, you know, fine-tune the sex system in the children's video game that he made like if
he didn't fine-tune it enough kirito could be ejaculating before kazato kirigaya ejaculates
or after either either or would be terrible I think there was an explanation for why that
system existed in the game. I don't remember what it
was. I think there was, like,
supposed to be brothels or something in the game.
Yeah, I didn't read the
entire thing. I read, like, the
first, like,
two or three hundred words,
and then skipped to the end to see the
years of unused demon
made a glooping sound as it yeah the glooping
sounds also important yeah yeah i'm gonna find the exact quote now i've got to look it up now
so 16.5 oh yeah wattpad let's go yeah
you found the same one i did um i just if i just search for semen
you gotta scroll all the way down to the bottom or else it doesn't uh
oh it's one of those websites two years worth of semen added glopping
noise as it flowed endlessly into asana every time my penis twitched fireworks would go off in my head. Also, yeah, it's written from first person.
Oh, God.
For those of you who haven't looked it up yet,
chapter 16.5 is a
unofficial
official chapter
of the light novel.
It was written
by Reki Kawahara,
but it was published
on a fan site, not
as an actual book.
So written by the author
kind of makes it official.
Also, it's written
in first person from Kuroko's
perspective.
So Reki Kawahara
kind of
really wanted to fuck Asuna which is the
character that he wrote I'm just reading
parts of this like I can put on the
screen like just just read some of this
if you want to I'm not gonna read it out
cuz I might get might get claimed. I might get
fucking
yeeted off of YouTube.
Asuna threw her body
back while drawing out the last part of her sentence
as she violently convulsed two,
three times.
I was
in no position to pause and admire the sight
of Asuna with her eyes scrunched closed
and her teeth gritted together looking incredibly cute like horribly polluted.
All at the same time.
I'm not going to read through it.
I'll just highlight this part.
If you want to read this, feel free to do so.
God, this fucking chapter is amazing.
Also, there's lots of explanation about noises and stuff.
Ah, yes, let it out.
Ah, Kirito, let out a lot.
Ah.
Also, Kirito is kind of an absolute fucking lad,
screaming loudly, asking a climax for the second time.
kind of an absolute fucking lad screaming loudly arsenal climax for the second time and this is only like three quarters of the way through this is before the two years
worth of semen
this is oh here we go they plan to use sao systems all to provide a personal sex service
yeah so basically there's going to be brothels in the game.
Okay.
Which is canon.
That is actually canon.
That's the funny thing.
Half canon, I guess.
Yeah.
God.
Oh, this fucking game.
oh this fucking game seo is a game doesn't make any sense and yeah it's a great series though i would play it
i yeah i would play it but it just couldn't exist it's simply the systems don't make any sense
but if we do get uh something at seo level in my life did you know true love can
break admin paralysis yeah there's also that um yeah if you haven't seen seo uh the last fucking
scene of ironcrad makes no sense but that sort of happens a lot of the time throughout the series
like actually no after after fairy dance i guess it starts to make more sense.
Because the same sort of bullshit happened in Fairy Dance.
And then also, Kirito had the admin password as well.
So he's like, oh, fuck it.
I have an admin password.
Why didn't I use it earlier?
The admin password is the name of the guy that I just killed.
Heath Cliff.
That's the password
wait wait i just realized something so heathcliff's account reki kawahara had admin privileges so
not reki kawahara not right fuck yeah no it's it's just a self-insert. Yeah. What the fuck's the antagonist's name?
Rikawa has the rider.
I'm Googling it right now.
Anyway.
Aki Kakaiba.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, actually, no.
Kirito's a self-insert.
Anyway.
Whatever.
The name.
The name of the antagonist. Kakaiba.
His account.
Heathcliff.
The username was Heathcliff, and the password was Heathcliff.
I don't know if it had a password on it.
Well, no.
I don't know.
His account...
In the final episode of the first season, he just says, log in, Heathcliff.
And that's it.
He doesn't say a password.
That's fair.
Maybe there's a password.
I believe that may have been the dub at the time that I watched, because that was my
first anime that I watched.
So it may have just been that the dub didn't have a password in it.
Yeah, that's fair.
Or it may have been an anime-only thing,
and the light novel had a password.
I don't recall there being a password,
but I can't imagine a game like this would not have a password.
But if he did, his username was Heathcliff,
his password was Heathcliff.
Yeah.
That's fucking brilliant.
This dude who made this
massive game
just set the dumbest password imaginable.
Not only made a game, made a
game engine that automatically makes
games. Yeah, well the seed system
doesn't make any sense either.
He set the highest level of admin
access for every single game
in existence to Heathcliff.
Because it's a different game that he logs to Heathcliff. Because it's a different
game that he logs into Heathcliff
with.
Imagine he
puts on, you know,
from the movie where they had the
little eye patch thing.
He just says, log in Heathcliff.
Now I have creative flight.
How fucking stupid was the movie?
Because, like, everyone...
Fuck, what was it called?
The non-canon movie you're talking about, that one.
No, no, the canon one.
Ordinal Scale.
That's not canon.
That's not canon?
No, it's...
I don't think so.
That's not a Light Novel adaptation, at least.
I'm fairly sure it's canon, though.
Because they have those eye devices
in the last episode of Alicization.
It might just be anime canon, then.
Maybe.
Anyway, yes.
Ordinal Scale.
Fucking dumb series.
Or dumb movie.
Apparently, yes. Ordinal Scale, fucking dumb series. Dumb movie. Apparently, yeah,
Ordinal Scale is canon to the continuity
of the anime and the light novels.
Okay, sure.
But yeah, it was so dumb,
because, like, these are
not real things
that are in the real world
that, like, are making wind.
Mm-hmm.
It's like, are they like the robots from the new Spider-Man movie?
Well, who would actually play this game?
That's the weirdest thing.
The people who'd be, like, fucking nerdy enough to do it
are not going to be fit enough to actually play this game.
But you see some people running around in this game,
especially, like, Kirito.
And, like, this dude, dude you fucking
play VR games
all day
literally all day, you would not have
this much energy
like if he played actual VR games
where he has to actually move around
like if you're playing Beat Saber, you've got to like swing your arms
real fucking hard to play Beat Saber
but if you're playing a full dive game
where his body is in a catatonic state.
Nah. But yeah, I also love...
Have you watched Alicization all the way
through? I've watched the first season of Alicization.
Okay. Well, I
won't spoil the very end for you, but
yeah, there's just like...
There's just stupid shit.
I need to go watch it.
Oh, wait.
So you've finished up to the point
where they get to the top of the tower?
I've seen up to the point where Sinon joins the game.
Or was it Leafa?
Whoever joined the game.
Oh, that's not the first season.
That's the second season.
No.
No, it happened right at the end.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, so...
Literally that happened, and then it was like, oh, season's over now.
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's...
Technically, there's like three seasons for Alicization, because there's Alicization, Alicization War of Underworld, and then Alicization War of Underworld.
Sorry, season two then.
Yeah, my bad.
I completely forgot about when Yu-Gi-Oh was around.
Yeah.
But yeah, I just love War of Underworld
because characters in coma.
It's so fucking good.
I love this arc.
Yeah.
And then the harem still fights over him.
Yeah.
Yeah, like the two girls that him and him and yuji uh trained just like
simping over him while he's asleep to be fair he's
okay with with the girl who's simply of a yuji before she's sort of just there because
kirito was also like a great like a great teacher not because like she's still desperately in love with yujiro yeah but um the other girl
yeah the one who looks like his sister yeah
are you watching uh sort of unabridged uh no i've watched up until one of the
really early episodes like i don't remember when I stopped, but should I go back and watch it?
Yeah, it fixes all of the character flaws that exist in SWAT Online.
It's extremely meme-y for the first four or five episodes,
and then it becomes more actual series kind of stuff.
The last thing I recall watching is the episode with Silica, where they're on the bridge,
and Kirito's like, yeah, I'm, like, actually fucking OP, you can't do anything to me.
Silica?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, real early.
My number's yours!
Yours!
My heel! That's no- Real early. My numbers, yours. My wounds heal faster than you can make them.
I fucking love that scene.
One of the few things in the game that actually made sense.
Like, yeah, this is how MMOs work.
Kirito was so fucking overleveled.
Like, I don't know.
I think he was supposed to be at level like 50 or something at that point
or 40 everyone else was at
like a regular level
yeah they were at like level 15 or something
and he's like 80
yeah but yeah no so they're up
to the point in
um is fairy
dance second arc yes fairy dance is second
arc yeah so they're Dance is the second arc.
Yeah, so they're up to the point in Fairy Dance where
Kirito and
Leafa just got to
Leafa's hometown.
Okay, yep.
But yeah, they've removed the incest
subplot.
And so
now, instead of there being
oh I don't know it's my brother
but I'm in love with him
it's like wait
I know it's my brother he's trying to trick me
because he thinks that I'm a
girl who's into really weird girly shit
he's trying to
yeah
so that's what the subplot is
instead of
this subplot is instead of instead of instead of uh
this subplot
but every female in sao needs to want to fuck kirito because it's a self-insert yeah
as it's demonstrated by 16.5 i think Leafa is like the worst out of the harem.
Because it's like
everyone else
kind of has a reason to
simp over Kirito. Because in SAO
your life was actually
on the line and this guy
actually saves your
life many times
over. And then it was like oh oh no three guys in a video game
were like gonna kill me and i was gonna have to respawn yeah like silicon makes sense i'm in love
with you that silicon makes perfect sense asana fine sure uh lisbeth also fine all of them actually
had their lives saved.
Sinon I get, because they actually were kind of close.
Yeah, and that was, like...
It's probably even
more okay for Sinon to, like,
carry to you, because in that
game... Oh, also, yeah, that was the scene right at the end as well.
I forgot about that.
But, yeah.
Yeah, but, like, that was... you weren't supposed to be able to die
in that game like in sort of online everyone already knew the stakes everyone knew that
they could die at any point but in gun gale it was like silica uh yes yes i know
um was like this guy might be in my house right now you You can't, like, let him shoot me.
Don't do it.
And then, obviously, once we move on to Alicization,
they don't realize they're in a game.
Yeah.
And they actually do die if they die anyway,
because they're, yeah.
Yeah, then Lightcube just goes...
I don't know why the people who made the system
didn't just, like, oh, the character died?
Okay, well, here's a backup of their light cube.
Nope, too hard.
Like, they're doing all this, like, hundreds of years of iterations to try and get the perfect cube.
But then if that character dies, the cube wipes itself.
Like, why do that? characterize the cube web to self. We're able to save human
intelligence
as data, but we don't
know how to back it up.
The thing I don't get about
Alicization is it's like, oh yeah,
we made this incredibly advanced
system that if
you go inside of it and
fuck, you can make a real
baby.
But we can't just click a button and make a real baby we have to get actual
people to play as virtual
characters
the other thing that doesn't make sense is
um what was her name
the antagonist of the first arc
of Alicization
was that an antagonist of the first arc
oh uh the Pontifex
who leveled her way up to being admin oh yeah of Alicization? Was that an attack on the first arc? Oh, the Pontifex.
Yeah, who leveled her way up to being admin.
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, she just... That kind of made
sense, because
they're stupid idiots
and they designed their system
to not have admin access.
It was just...
Anyone could just say
list admin commands
or whatever the command was.
And she knew that the magic
was by saying words.
So she just said
every set of words possible
in every single order possible
and then eventually landed on
list admin commands.
This game didn't make any sense.
Why did it...
Like, they have admin accounts. That's the dumbest thing.
Like, they had their god accounts.
But they just let everyone use the commands.
Yeah, also, they have, like,
admin accounts.
Admin accounts.
That are, are like actual gods
that have no
password on them.
The security in this
secret military operation is
absolutely amazing.
And they can't just make a new account.
When they're in that fight,
they can't just make a new account.
Oh yeah, they're like, oh, we don't have one that's leveled up enough like what are you talking about what does that
mean that level equal to 199 like just do it no we have to have people go in and play the video game
seos i i love how trashy it is but if you just turn your mind off and enjoy it,
it is a lot of fun.
Yeah.
You have to turn your mind off.
You can't just turn your mind down.
It's got to go all the way off.
Yes.
Not as...
I feel like you have to turn your mind off less
when you watch something like High School DD,
because you go into that knowing what it is.
It's a trash trashy not porn
porn the main character i don't know how far if you've watched the newer seasons i watched the
first season and i cringed too hard to watch you need to watch no you need to watch um born and
uh just watch the newer seasons because now the main character he he can, like, use his full, like, transformation dragon form thingy.
Oh, yeah.
I actually saw a GIF today or yesterday that I assumed was DD
because it was, like, full dragon.
And it was just, like, chibi style.
Like, boobies, boobies, boobies.
Yeah.
Well, at the start of, I think, season three or something,
basically he, like, pokes Rios' breasts to get a power upgrade.
That's the sort of series you're watching now.
Yeah.
So you know that's going to be dumb.
Yeah.
Then you go into SAO and you're like,
would you like to watch SAO?
You know, if you come into it knowing what a video game is,
you're going to have a bad time.
I think, okay.
Forget what video games are.
Forget what computers are.
The problem with early SAO
is that Reki started writing it,
I think he was 16 when the web novel came out.
15 or 16.
And that's why you get these weird self-inserts
where he wants to sleep with Asuna.
Yeah. Because he was a horny teenager who wanted to sleep
with Asuna
and this is why Alicization is
honestly if you start reading Essay Era
from volume 9 it's so much better
the rest of it doesn't matter
I think 8 or 9
whenever Alicization starts
I think it's 9 but it could be 8
because Yujiro I thought 1 to 8 was just the first arc I think eight or not. Whenever Alicization starts, I think it's nine, but it could be eight.
Because Yu-Gi-Oh!
Yes?
I thought one to eight was just the first arc.
No, one to two is the first arc.
Really?
Yes. I swore someone told me that volume one, three, five, and 8 make up the
Aincrad arc.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no. Okay, what's happened there
is the side story volumes.
Oh, okay.
So 1 and 2 are actually in it,
and then 8 is a side story.
I think...
I think the, um...
The Christmas episode,
that was part of the side stories.
Oh, okay.
You know, the one where...
The one where it's like, hey, you want your girlfriend back?
Ha ha, little jokes.
Yeah, yeah, that one.
It was a fucking hat.
That was from the episode.
Yeah, I have seen that one.
Yeah, I have seen that one.
And here he comes now,
the patron saint of prostitutes. Look it up.
The bridge honestly takes the original series
and makes it so...
It takes it to the level of dumb that it needed
to be for how dumb Reki was at the time.
Yeah.
There's this video on YouTube called, like, Most Quotable Lines of SAO.
And I'm like, man, why isn't this every single line mentioned in the entire series?
Because, like, I could quote the majority of SAO abridged.
Abridging sort of died down in the past couple of years.
It's kind of sad.
Yeah, because you get claimed and then you just make no money.
Yeah, like, Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged used to release so often.
Now they release, like, one after a year.
Have you watched Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged?
I've watched...
The only Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged I can think of is the movie.
Because everyone's seen the Abridged movie.
Bonds Beyond Time?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that the one with Jaden and all the other characters?
Jaden, Yu-Gi, and Yusei.
Yeah, yeah.
And Yu-Gi all together.
Yeah.
Synchro what-what?
Synchro summon. What what? Synchro summon.
What summon? Synchro
summon. What what?
It's where you play a master. Oh wait,
I seem to have stopped caring.
The game's gotten worse since then. For some
reason, Yu-Gi-Oh videos showed up in my
recommended. Holy crap, the
game doesn't make any sense now.
Yeah.
There was a point where I had all i had was an
ipod when i was young and the only song i had on my phone was the yugo bridge series movie
i had the first like five minutes memorized with the timing
i can still quote the majority of the movie.
I need to go back and watch that.
It was a lot of fun.
I want to see how badly it's aged.
It's no longer available, I don't think.
I can send it to you.
I can find it.
I don't think it's on his channel anymore because he split it into three videos
and only the first two videos
are still up, the third video he's taken down.
Unless
they have a...
It'll be
available somewhere.
Oh wait, no, it's back!
Cool. Yeah, yeah.
1, 2 and 3 are all back up now. Cool.
But yeah, I originally like downloaded part 1 and part 2,
and I had to go to somewhere else to get part 3.
So it goes from 1080p, 1080p, 720p.
Because I edited it into one video.
Fuck, this came out a long time ago.
Nine years ago, yeah.
Good movie, though. yeah good movie though
fucking good movie
I don't know if the actual movie is good
but
I watched it after I watched this
it's
it's like three hours long
and it's just
three hours of Yu-Gi-Oh!
yeah
it's not very good
but yeah
I also
I've watched like the actual like the latest uh yugioh movie where
they actually bring back uh yami but yami comes back for like 20 seconds they spent like the
entire movie being like no the pharaoh has passed on he can't hear you anymore kaiba
and then kaiba's like no he will come will come back, and I will duel him, and I will beat him!
That's a really good Kaiba impression.
Yeah.
So he comes back, and it's like,
You! Yami! Yes, you are here! Finally!
And then he's like,
Yeet.
I say it's good, but it's good at the abridged level of Yu-Gi-Oh!
Yeah, I can't do any impressions good.
Oh no, I did actually watch
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series, yeah. No, I did.
I completely forgot.
I think I watched most
of it, actually.
Yeah, I've watched
all of it, I think, because he hasn't uploaded
a new episode.
I probably watched all of it at I think, because he hasn't uploaded a new episode. I probably watched all of it at the time.
But
that's fun.
Let's have a look. When was the last
actual
abridged episode
uploaded? One year ago.
Ooh.
Last episode was
first of
wait no
first of December 2018
that seems wrong
yeah nope
first of December 2018
it might be a re-upload
or something I don't know
I feel like I watched it
before that point.
But my sense of time is fucked
right now.
Yeah.
That is the latest episode.
Okay.
Okay.
But yeah,
that's the
most current episode.
It started fucking 15 years ago or something.
Ah, okay.
That makes sense.
The very first episode.
So, the first episode that is actually up on the channel
is episode 31, which was 12 years ago.
So there are like 30 episodes that are just
either gone
or on a different channel.
Yeah, you'll find them uploaded somewhere,
even if they're not on the Little Creepo
channel.
This is...
The very first episode was
29th of April 2009.
Holy shit, that was a while ago.
Yeah.
Well, maybe that was just the re-upload.
Let's have a look at 31 now.
Yeah, no.
So that one was uploaded in 2009.
Episode 31 was uploaded in 2008.
Fuck.
So the first episodes would have been re-uploaded, which means the first episodes would have been reupload which means
that first episodes would have probably been even earlier than that possibly
2007 Jesus Christ we're getting old yeah I was thinking the other day, someone born in 2004 will be... Actually, no, sorry. Someone born in
2002 will be 18.
Yeah.
It's weird. It is weird.
I saw this thing on
Twitter, and it was like,
did you know people born in 2001
are 23? It's like, uh...
No.
No, they're not.
People that can't do maths, they'll believe it. Yeah.
Oh lord. We have been going for two hours and forty-seven minutes, well minus the time I've left, probably about two and a half hours.
Um, let's-
This is what we did last time. Last time we had like a four hour episode, didn't we?
I dunno. Or three and a half hours or something. It was long. This is what we did last time Last time we had like a 4 hour episode didn't we I don't know
I want to go get a haircut
Because my hair is getting too long today
I think we'll
You have the opposite problem
Yeah
So I think we'll
Start wrapping it up there
Unless you want to talk about my hair
If you want to take your hat off.
Yeah. Okay.
So, I used to have
really long hair. Well, not really long, but like
big hair.
And I always wanted to
do something with it, but I didn't know what I wanted to do.
And then I decided I wanted
to have a fucking man bun.
So, I'm going to have a man bun
all the way at the back here.
Oh, God. It doesn't... Not long enough. have a fucking man bun so i'm gonna have a man bun all the way at the back here oh god uh it
it doesn't um not long enough to do it yet so i'm wearing a hat constantly so i won't be able to
hear you so i'm just gonna change my output to my speakers uh real quick
this one talk now hello yeah okay okay it's not that's good it's not feeding back in
yeah so it's been in a hat all day so it's kind of shit but yeah so i've got hair on the top
nothing on the sides pretty much uh it's supposed to be a fade on the side but uh
it the fade has grown out.
But yeah, I'm going to have it tied all the way back here.
Why?
Why are you doing that?
Because I saw...
What's her name?
Female character from Dungeons & Dragons.
Do it. And now I want to do it
sure okay
Beauregard from
critical role with D&D
and now I want that
I disapprove
I disavow
yeah everyone does don't worry not the one everyone that i've talked
to over the last uh several weeks has said no why it's fine it's your head do what you want i don't
i don't actually care enough i might laugh at you but apart from that i don't actually care
i mean you can laugh at me all you want but like i've seen your hair so that's fair
i will go to get a haircut in uh i don't know when i have some lunch
yeah yeah anyway uh do you have anything you want to shout out
uh the same people i shout out shouted out last time, probably.
DingoDoodles.
Wait, wait, wait.
Am I shouting out me or am I shouting out... Yeah, shout out yourself first and then we'll do...
Me first. Okay.
I have a YouTube channel.
I've posted
a video and it was posted
like five years ago. Go subscribe to me.
1R1SHMAN04
Don't
have to do that.
Why would you do that? I'm not going to post ever.
Yeah, I don't really
have anything to shout out because I don't really have social media.
Like, I have accounts, but like
I don't post. We have
greatest win in competitive history.
Have you heard of the May Ice Wall strategy?
That's three years ago.
Yeah, that's it.
Day of the Undead.
That was the...
That's the public video.
That should be private.
That was from the VR course.
Oh, VR, not Android.
No, that wasn't VR.
Android, sorry.
Not VR, what I'm saying.
And then,
immersive engineering pump jack working.
Working.
Because the pump jack wouldn't work,
so I made a cheat that made it work.
Okay.
So in Minecraft,
the pump jack would pump once
and then be like,
I don't have access to oil,
so I can't keep pumping.
So I made a thing that continuously broke
and replaced the pump jack
so that it would pump that one time and then break and pump again.
Oh my god.
To get oil.
But yeah.
Lovely.
Nothing really for me because I don't do shit.
But if you want to watch some good Dungeons & Dragons content,
Dingo Doodles is an animator.
She is currently doing a Fool's Gold campaign
that is very good, very fun to watch,
as well as The Baku and Puffin Forest.
They both do D&D animations.
they both do indie animations and my mate
has just made
his brand new
YouTube channel
where he does Linux tutorials
he's a very small creator
his name is
Brody Robertson
sounds like a bit of a douche
yeah he
is a bit of a douche. Yeah, he is a bit of a douche.
But he deserves your follow,
so
go and subscribe to him. I'm subscribed
to him. I watch
I've seen
a video of his.
Go watch my video on
Big Sur being
a fucking absolute surveillance nightmare.
That's the new version of macOS.
It's tracking everything you do.
And people don't like that I said that.
Because there's a blog post that says...
Oh yeah, the your computer isn't yours video?
Yeah.
There's a blog post that's like, oh, that's not actually what's happening.
And the guy who that was a reply to was like, no, this reply
is completely wrong. And there's
no idea what he's talking about. And no
one's actually gone back and read the reply to the reply.
So everyone's like, oh, it's all
good. Apple said it's fine. This guy said
it's fine. And this guy's like,
and the first guy's like, okay, no, no,
no, it's not fine. What are you doing? Stop, stop, stop.
This is bad. Stop buying Apple products.
Anyway, as for me, I'm going to say you should go watch Trevor Wallace. Trevor Wallace is
a fucking comedic genius. He does a sketch comedy. And so we've got some good examples like
so we've got some good examples like uh the first guy to rob a bank after covid and every guy after morning sex or moms when you're one minute past curfew basically it's
just really good sketch comedy and i really recommend him also if you i recommend you look
at his face and tell me he doesn't look like Jai.
Okay, sure.
So, talking about how I haven't watched any of your videos.
Yes.
So, I have 154 of your videos in my watch later.
But my watch later is 1,801 videos long.
I think that's not a watch later anymore.
Yeah, it got down to like 1,500
and that
was when the semester started.
And then I stopped having time to watch them
and my phone kept saying,
hey, new video uploaded. You should watch the video.
And I'm like, oh, later.
And then
the later never came.
Lovely. and then never the later never came later never came lovely I know the feeling
I've got a bunch of video topics
I need to read through and see if they're decent
and I've got like 7000 things on the list
yeah
this is the picture that I said
I was going to show you like 2 hours ago
that you can probably just edit
into the thing but
yeah. Spin him!
Zach just fell
over.
If anyone still watching at this point doesn't have any idea
what the context is probably they've completely forgot.
Spin him.
Zach fell over because he forgot how to speak
English because he was drinking wine.
Little piss baby.
So we good? You got nothing else you want to say? big English because he was drinking wine. Little piss baby. So,
we good? You got nothing else you want to say?
Yeah, that's all I got. Cool.
I'm going to go thank my
supporters, wherever my list of supporters
is. Wrong document, that one.
So, a special thank you
to Chris, Joachim, Donald, Cobinian,
Andre, Nathan, Monstar, Chico, Bento, Joseph,
Mitchell, Peter D, Rho, Tony,
and all of the $2 patrons.
If you want to go watch my regular videos
where they're considerably more planned
and not as rambly as this,
then go check out the Brodie Robertson channel.
I do Linux content
and general tech news, I guess.
If you're watching the audio version of this,
the video version is available
on YouTube, Library, and Odyssey,
and the audio version is available basically anywhere you can listen to audio podcasts.
So, yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
What do you want to say to close off the video?
Thanks for watching, everyone, and go subscribe to Brody.
He makes content.
I assume it's good content.
I do make content, I can confirm.
He hasn't quit yet,
so someone's going to be watching it.
Sure, that's a great
winning recommendation.
He's a good guy.
Give him your watch.
This has been a fun
three-ish hours.
Hopefully next time your watch. Well, this has been a fun three-ish hours. Yeah.
Hopefully next time there's not as many
breaks that have to happen, but apart from that,
I felt like it's been fun. So,
yeah.
I guess we'll go?
Yeah. Alrighty.
That fucking hurt my wrist. I really need to do something about that.