Tech Over Tea - #46 For Once It's A Linux Podcast - feat Kai Hendry

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

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Welcome to episode 46 of Tech of a Tee, I'm as always your host Brodie Robertson and today's guest is someone who I met because he decided to bully me on YouTube. Welcome to the show Kai Hendry. Oh, thanks Brodie. Yeah, well, how did I come across you? I'm just trying to think. I i mean i think you you do stand out i think you do invite uh attention you're you're a contra you're like uh the luke smith clone right that's that's what i go with people started calling me that like back when i started the channel so i was like you know what i'm just gonna roll with it why not yeah i feel like I'm not controversial enough or something, but I'm just the middle of the road or something kind of guy. Well, I don't feel like I'm that controversial either. I'm pretty boring on most things. Like, do I think video games are bad?

I don't know. Depends on if you have other things that you should use. Is Linux always the best thing to use? I don't know. Do you like open source linux always the best thing to use i don't know do you like do you like open source software like i'm not that controversial i don't know maybe it's because i just i mean the controversy is probably the wrong term but like but i think like from from for me it's like uh who's a bit of a a bit more experienced so we say i guess i a little bit i would be like a little bit more

triggered or something like that or i don't know what by by i you know every newbie has to go to the sort of rite of passage yes you're it's like kind of like hazing almost but it's not nice is it but like uh yeah i mean learning all this stuff takes a lot of time and effort and you get things wrong and blah blah blah and i guess like sometimes i watch a video and i go oh but okay it's you could go you you'll get there i'm sure if you carry on well the mistake i made with this channel was i started it the no before i actually started using linux and i started like doing videos on linux from the day i started using linux and that's why a lot of my early videos are just just not just not good just not good yeah i mean my early videos are just terrible too so

and and i don't know if you feel the same way as i do is like i make videos and then i almost forget that i ever did them and then i'm like searching and oh i did something about that like oh and that's a useful reference for my own self sort of thing yeah recently did a video oh sorry i did a live stream where i was going through um so most of my video topics come from reddit because that's where people like to advertise software now i don't know why they do it like that. Yeah, your last video is about Reddit, yeah. I mean, to be honest, I bootstrapped my channel through Reddit by dropping a few links in there. You probably could see that by my username.

But what I was saying was during that stream, it was basically just me going through my RSS feeds of subreddits that have useful topics on them. And every time I'd come across something, someone would be like, oh, yeah, you've already done a video on that. You've done a video on that one. Like, have I? And I just post the links like,

wow, I have, haven't I? I didn't remember doing that once. Like, I do so many videos that it's very easy to start forgetting what I've actually talked about. And yeah, and YouTube does get you on the hamster wheel so that you do get into this habit of making videos and banging them out i have cut back on one video and replaced it with a live stream the live streams like i don't really prepare them it's usually just okay i have a thing i'm gonna do

maybe i'm gonna do a research stream maybe i'm gonna play zanotic but i don't really plan them like i plan out my regular videos so they're more sort of relaxing most of the content for those comes from just interacting with the community all right interacting with the community tell me about your community how would you what's the demographic there uh like age group or or like how many of them are from 4chan oh 4chan are they from 4chan well i do my initial sub boost came from um came from luke recommending my channel like there isn't i don't know if you've seen it maybe not i don't know how if you watch any 90 of your audience is probably just trolls right uh no it's actually it it's changed since the original shout-out. You introduced me as a bully.

I mean, you must have, like... At least I have a face. What do you call it? I can say sorry. But what kind of fortune... No, I actually appreciate it. Well, okay. but what kind of fortune no i i actually appreciate it well okay so i mean i guess you enjoy your audience you i mean or or do they like give you like oh man i don't get it do they make you sad there's okay there's sort of i can sort of tell when someone's new to the channel because they'll make the exact same joke.

You don't know how many times I've heard your beard looks like pubes. You do not know how many times I've seen that and every single person who says that thinks they're being original. That's a good one. It was about 50 times ago. Yeah.

I'm just thinking, why didn't I use that one no no I wouldn't have said something like that someone did actually have a good spin on it recently they said why is this ball sack talking about FOSS software like that's a good one yeah that's better yeah if you're gonna take a new spin on an old joke

hey that works but but okay besides that negative stuff i don't know most people i've talked to are really chill and but have you got like some like killer tips or like i like chatting with my community because they usually give me things tell me you know fill in the gaps and tell me things i don't know which is great yeah yeah there's been like there's a lot of people who are really really hardcore i only use for software sort of people in like in my discord and stuff and that's funny because they're on discord but you know that part um some of them are migrating over to the matrix version of my community and it's like bridged over so they can chat to each other um but yeah there's a lot of people like that.

People who will only use terminal applications. There's a guy who uses only, like, Plan 9 stuff. Cool. You find some interesting characters, for sure. Okay. Cool. Cool. But then you can go all the way to the other side,

where I have one guy who is... What is he doing? He's doing some sort of IT work. I can't remember what it was. But he just uses Linux because that's what makes sense for what he's doing in his job. And he doesn't use Linux directly. He uses it through WSL

because that just makes more sense for his job. Fine, I guess. It's sort of like this WSL there was a corruption bug that made me chuckle yeah I did see the I went back look some of your older videos he did a WSL video back when it first came out so I wonder what if we have an intersection of like people that watch your channel and my channel or do you think they're quite isolated or something i feel like when you do anything regarding like dwm or sockless software there's definitely some crossover there yeah there's definitely some when i did my sockist video i dare say i was a pioneer there i didn't realize there would be that much interest but i'm glad there is i yeah i'm so

confused like i i know dt doesn't know why why anyone does it either there is a weird amount of people who are interested in these random little applications. Like, if you look at the grand scheme of things, nobody runs Suckler software. What? It's a very insular little bubble. It's really true with a lot of this minimal software, though.

If you look at the grand scheme of things, no one really runs it, but there is a very dedicated subset of people who absolutely love it okay okay but i i think d menu is used everywhere no demon a lot of people who are not that sort of what do you call it are not uh i don't know what do you call these butterflies you know people who like to try things. I think a lot of people have stuck with DWM.

I know a lot of DWM users. And yeah, ST is a little bit weird. It's good after you give like four or five patches to it. Yeah. So I think cyclist software is very good. And maybe it's not widely used, I think cyclist software is very good. And it is maybe, maybe it's not widely used, but I think it's like deeply influential,

deeply influential. That's, that's the more powerful thing. What do you mean by that? The cyclist philosophy, the, you know, like I think DWM was like the first XOR window manager that was, that was reusable. And, you know, like I think DWM was like the first XOR window manager that was usable

and, you know, like a thousand or whatever lines of code. So people who, everyone who wrote, you know, subsequently wrote to a tiling window manager, you know, which source code did they look at to figure it all out? It was DWM. You know, Awesome, all the rest of it. Awesome is a fork of DWM. there's so many forks of dwm and you have to ask yourself why because dwm got it right from the

beginning so yeah that's fair and uh yeah i don't know why people mess up what do you call what do you call a d menu it's like an order complete sort of fuzzy matcher thing that's i don't think the fuzzy matcher but there's a fuzzy match for it yeah it's not a matcher but like the you know the whole effect you know using d menu like this very simple it's not many lines of code but like people go oh yeah that is a simple way and then i feel like like maybe spotlight and i don't know the windows start menu was there before but it never worked really well and you just chose you you can actually just you know execute a binary and it's like you know lightning fast and don't you love it when don't you love it when uh your your mac decides that it wants to index your entire system and you can't use spotlight spotlight is just insane uh and the worst is like i have an ios

phone and every time i like pull down to do a search it just doesn't work half the time just think to yourself what are these guys doing can't they just look at d menu source code and just copy and paste or something but like you know so yeah cyclist philosophy has been influential to me and and many others i feel so that's that's that's a camp i mean i also think their mailing list is very high quality so i like to to read that i guess i'm just looking at it from after all of this has already gone down because you've been around in linux much longer than i have i'm i've really only been using it for the past, like, two years at this point, I reckon.

Shit, you're a baby. Yeah. Like, I knew of Linux, but I was one of those people who thought, oh, Linux is going to be really difficult to use. And obviously it's not actually the case. Well, it is. I mean, the desktop is a complete mess.

Joke. And you have to, like, navigate your way through it. You know, no one's going to make a suckless distribution for you, I guess. So you have to find your way. I'm going to see if someone's done that. I wouldn't be surprised. Someone's rewrote.

Actually, do you know about this? You probably don't. Someone has rewrote all of the GNU core utils in Rust. This is funny. I mean, there was a Go project. Don't question it. People are going to do dumb things. Well, it's a good exercise. That's a really good exercise.

The beautiful thing, the reason why Unix will last beyond our lifetimes is that the utilities are kind of easy to understand and easy to implement. And if people implemented it in different languages, all the better, because because we know when the Armageddon comes, whatever the end of the end of days, we need those good new core utils. You can just pick a copy some rust source code and maybe some other source code and you have a

system it's kind of bizarre but that's kind of world we're living in i guess so um so you don't really make that many videos what actually made you want to actually start doing it uh well how many videos do i have i thought i had a lot well i mean you don't like you bang them out yeah you don't bang them out i got a day job that's why yeah well yeah you've got more important things to do uh kids uh definitely important well the youtube medium is amazing dude as you know it's like like i think i i think i've had various experiences when i uploaded uploaded like uh some water going through a sink or something like this yeah you mentioned that last time we talked do you know what that one's called sink if you just search for sink or something just sync not kai hendry sync yeah maybe

no sadly not i like the idea of just reaching new audiences and things like that i mean i was thinking of actually trying to publish more to instagram but like is there any sane people on instagram it's kind of a rabbit hole that thing but I do like the idea of being I hate the word influencer but I'm I think I'm 100% on on that bandwagon I like to influence people I mean influence doesn't tell I just I just like to to get the points across that like you know you can use a free operating system um free of cost but more importantly free of system free of cost but more importantly free of bullshit and have fun

and get both things done except video editing which is a bit ironic video editing oh lord I haven't it might be up? It might be up by the time this comes out, actually.

I'm actually sort of doing a bit of an experiment with Linux video editing. So everyone sort of is in this mindset that Kdenlive is just the best video editor, but I don't know... It's trash. No, it's absolute garbage. I hate it. But I don't think anyone who says that

actually has tried anything else, and I've really only used open shop besides it so i'm gonna go through and try every single video editor that is even remotely competent and see if kate live actually is the best video editor and if it is that is a very sad very sad state of affair that we're in well i haven't tried kd in life for a while but i mean i'm willing to accept that it's got better and all that stuff it might be the best but that's not a good thing yeah final cut pro 10 is pretty amazing to be honest i'm hooked i'm hooked to my ios device to help me but i i still but I still feel

free using my Arch Linux daily driver. I hope I don't sound like a hypocrite. I don't think you have to do everything with FOSS software. Some people think that you make Linux videos, therefore

you must also do this. But... Like... oh you make linux videos therefore you must also do this but yeah like uh um years ago in the london hacker space i feel a bit bad because i criticized tom scott of all people for using um premiere pro or something to edit his videos and he he he retorted a bit um kind of angry dismissively angrily whatever saying like there's no better alternative and i was like i think i was on the fost on the fost train saying there's you can use ffmpeg oh god no he was like looking at me like i was an idiot and can use ffmpeg for certain things but not i mean yeah when you when you do proper video editing with final cut pro 10 you realize what you can do and the creativity creative control that you have important not that my videos are very creative i just kind of jam them together but like whatever well you have had some ones that like they don't i don't know i don't know if you'd call them

creative you had some videos i've definitely banged with like just a little bit of creativity like you're installing arch in uefi with 10 what was installing arch in 10 minutes on uefi something like that yeah is that creative i don't know i don't know if anyone else has done it uh at least the time when you did the video maybe since then yeah that's one of my most popular videos the archery next install video yeah and i've got i think i'm proud of my of my five minutes one but it doesn't seem to rack up the views i was hoping it would because this was actually how i originally found your channel all right yeah most people ask me about install stuff in fact i got a question today from um one of the cyclist people asking me oh how do i automate an install process on uh on ubuntu it was an arch and I was like, oh, I don't really know.

You know, I'm like the how to install Linux guy, but like I just, I did it manually, right? Whatever. And I'm just, I mean, yeah, I don't automate these things. I'm just trying to show people how to do it by hand. So people better understand. Yeah, that's fair.

Is that, is the UEFI video your top video? Is there something more popular than that? It's probably a big one. Did you ever see my Debian rant? The Arch Linux versus Debian slash Ubuntu? Is that one? Or is there a different one you're talking about? Could be that one.

Sorry, I'd have to open up my... Oh, God. One thing I've noticed about your channel is you have a lot of just random videos that have been massively disliked. I don't understand why. Passionate fans. Passionate fans.

Maybe. Then you have a lot of... Which ones? Some of them have been disasters. Yeah, I'm looking at the 8GBabyte sandisk micro sd only showing 30 megabyte that one has a 38 like to dislike ratio yeah leaking sinkhole with uh with plug that one has a 46 like to dislike ratio i can kind of understand maybe there's a sandisk fan but who's disliking a video about a leaking sync well that's sandisk one was really interesting i thought i was the only one i thought i was i did a something under linux to my my what do you call it my memory card

but it turns out thousands of people have this problem and it's nothing related to linux oh yeah my arch Linux versus Debian Ubuntu video. That's worth a watch. If you haven't watched it already, I'm proud of that video. One take. Wow. And for,

for once I actually explained myself because I don't know if you, about you, but like I make a, I make a little dialogue or video, but then I wake up in the middle of the night going, why didn't i say that or i missed this point entirely or i didn't i don't think i explained myself well yep yeah i definitely have the feeling but the thing is that i unless it's something absolutely major

just get the video done and move on to the next one damn you're on that whole youtube hype train dude you know like gary v and all that i don't know that's a gary that's a gary v quote i'm pretty sure i don't know um yeah i guess you're trying to bang it out i mean i'm pretty inspired Ali Abdaal lately on his videos. But yeah, like... It's... It's a bit of a... It is a habit. Hey guys, what do you like about the channel? Making YouTube...

Yeah, making YouTube a career, you've got to consistently bang them out. I'm just... I'm having fun with it right now. Honestly, I'd be happy if I could just not work in a supermarket. That'd be good for me. Oh, yeah, you work in a supermarket. I do, yes.

Oh, yeah. It's not a bad job. It's better than where I was before doing fast food. So I've stepped up like one step in the world. Oh, my God. I think the worst job I ever had in my life i mean worst slash hardest was was waitering oh god that's hard what was fast food it was like mcdonald's or something it was mcdonald's yep oh my god i'm surprised you don't why don't you just become a devops dude like

me working for that's a good question what i mean you'll probably learn enough or enough to do the job in no time yeah i i could do it like i don't know why don't you do it i think i think youtube sounds better you know if i could turn it into a career that does sound much better but yeah even though you'll have all these yout be like i'm burning out from youtube my job is so hard yeah i think it is a grind i mean it's a grind yeah i i'm i'm trying to find some balance to it i do like i do kind of in all honesty i do prefer youtube than my day job but my day job pays pretty well yeah it can be my day job can be fun but unfortunately sometimes it can be quite excruciating yeah and i feel like i'm a bit of kind of a social person i think the problem i have at work at my workplace a lot is that you know like maybe it's just singapore

but like when you're hired for a job they just think of you as the as the the devops person like and you're doing a tech you're like an asset or something like that right like i think with the youtube thing there's this allure of being a personality and it's kind of that's the contrast to me now i get what you're saying i think a lot of people with the the personality thing though get a little bit too a little bit too off themselves with it they think they're more special yeah I know no one would ever thought that before

it's such a hot take I'm a god there's definitely some people who do have that mindset though and it's just like no not really you're just a dude I just like being social I feel like even though even though it's just like no not really you're just a dude well it's i i just like being social i feel like even though even though it's like youtube and it's a bit weird i do feel like i'm

being social um and i feel like it's being fun because like yeah work work often enough isn't really fun it's a bit of it's a bit of a grind at times a lot of the time yeah i i can't tell you what fun work is i just put boxes on shelves yeah maybe maybe that's what i do with devops i'm just putting containers into vms that's one way to look at it at least launching serverless functions at least when you have kind of a terrible job there's usually like a everyone sort of accepts that this job's terrible and there's like a bit more of a community there i don't know what it'd be like working like a devops job is there like i don't know some sort of company culture i guess that's the that's the buzzword

people use now as company culture that you enjoy yeah it's a difficult one but i think you i mean i'm i'm amazed that you're interested in this sort of stuff um as as someone who doesn't work in the industry because i feel like like um yeah if you're like working with linux and things you should i did yeah it it goes hand in hand with like a a programming career or something well i i did do four years at university programming so really yeah have you got a bachelor's or something i honors degree um or i don't have it just yet i'll have it actually i might have my transcript now yeah i think i do have the transcript now so yes i do have you learn to program or something i have a github account or something i do yeah

it's just broody Robertson. You got anything interesting there? Most of the stuff right now, it's related to the channel, so it's like.files and my stfork and things like that. So you used st as your terminal? I did. I use alacrity now.

Yeah, I must say, alacrity, it's just blazing fast and it works quite well. And it works on Mac, so I can use the same copy. Yeah. I think it's a Windows version as well, isn't it? I don't use Windows. Yeah, you don't use Windows. Okay. But yeah, alacrity.

Amazing. But I haven't looked. I mean, the source code is pretty extensive. I'm sure it will mature, maybe. I'm in no hurry. Yeah. I go back to it every so often.

I mean, Alacrity authors look at ST all the time. Well, I do still have ST installed, just in case I do something like break my Alacrity config, which I've done before. Oh, okay. So i just have that just in case i do something stupid and i need a terminal that works another thing that i did i'm not sure you're aware of is that i um i did my own operating system called web converger uh i think you mentioned it last time we talked but i don't think i looked at it i just wanted to mention that because um you know since i used

linux much the same way you did i had my like dwm thing i mean webconverger is basically uh debian with dwm just running a browser so like i was just thinking in your case maybe you will figure out like a workflow like i did effectively i just want my browser full screen and i just want my browser yeah and then you can create a product from that or something like that i don't know well there's some guys in my discord yesterday saying um that i should learn how to make an iso it just make it easier to deploy my system yeah yeah that's one reason i might do it exactly um the the other thing that's come up on my radar a little bit is is uh is security stuff i think these are there's there's some opportunities there to basically have a more

secure out the box type operating system i did see you arguing with someone on twitter about about sd linux i think this person's wrong but i was trying to be quite gender neutral i mean uh argument i was trying to be quite neutral. I saved a link to it. Now the link's not working. Okay, we'll just go to your Twitter account. Let's scroll down. Yeah, I don't know who that person is, but pretty passionate.

Is that it? Which is cool. This is a very long Twitter thread. Yeah, I mean, I was just puzzled by this person it was the first person i knew that actually supported the use of se linux uh yeah here we go so uh you're saying about linux hardening guide side good comment here cost of maintaining non-defaults uh se linux is the first reply we have and then came to say the same thing honestly se linux is easy once you know how to write policies i'm shocked so many

devs have such shit takes on security makes me wonder how poor the code they produces and then this goes for like a couple days by the looks of it yeah then you start talking about linux from scratch at some point for some reason. I don't know. There's some special people in the community. And that person is definitely special. But I do like hearing the, I mean, I've deployed, I've worked in a lot of industries. I've deployed a lot of software. And SE Linux was like the first thing you turn off in every project.

I mean, I think even Red Hat turned it off, right? I think it was only a couple of weird versions of Red Hat shipped it by default. And everyone just turned it off. Security isn't my, my forte.

What is SE Linux? Give me like a, the two second rundown. You know what? I'm the worst person because you're probably better than i am never worked for me i never actually quite understood it it was just it was supposed to be i think it's supposed to be something where the machines lock down and then you and then you write policies that i think you can opt in i mean that's the way you probably want to do it, like so that you get to the principle of least privilege or something.

And then that machine is secure in the sense that people can't do super user things except for what the program is supposed to do. Right. Whatever. But it just turned out to be, I think, just too difficult to work with. So everyone just turned it off. Also, it's developed by the NSA. Well, I mean, the internet was invented by the nsa wasn't it or somebody something like that it's yeah it was a us

military project initially yeah so so se linux um well the the thing is like, at least in Singapore, at least in the industry that I'm working in public sector, there's so like security is just such a big thing. I don't know if you heard what happens in Singapore, but the government basically has this sort of like approach where they disconnect people from the internet. What do you call them? There's a lot of air gap machines. Ah,

okay. And air gap systems just not connected to the internet because being connected to the internet is just deemed to just not so everyone's like like um yeah the cyber security teams are just sort of ruining my life because they make they make life quite difficult i I'm just trying to I think the important thing is to debate it. I mean, I'm no expert. I don't know what the right solution is but I just hate it how it's very difficult to have conversations

even. So I'm having conversations in my own little channels, I guess. Hopefully I won't get into trouble by bemoaning some public sector policies. Just don't name anything specific and you'll probably be fine. Yeah.

You wouldn't be the first person to come on here and bemoan things they probably shouldn't be, like their current employer and things like that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I do like my employer um but like yeah the trouble is like like debating or arguing on the internet is really hard and like i like to play devil's advocate for even the stuff that i use and or the stuff i don't use and then people just think you're an asshole or something and then it gets kind of ugly so um i i really yeah but it hasn't i don't think i i've ever like stopped to i'm always like trying to be open

about things and uh well one of the big problems with communication on the internet is doing it through text it you lose a lot of just i guess social cues is the word i'm thinking of social cues when you're talking through text i'm i'm i've taken this uh practice i think i picked it up from a guy named tj like every second sentence he writes he just adds ha ha just instead of using full stops to end your sentences just use an emoji and you'll be good exactly some people yeah some people just get too yeah i think you're coming across as uh as yeah you gotta i think haha works to me i use it a lot i think i and people have given me feedback that positive feedback about it so because i'm i think i'm quite i i joke a lot i think i do i'll try yeah i know

the feeling um a lot of people have taken some things i've said a little too literally uh i think the best example was a video i did last year on april fool's day the video was about um this nonsensically minimal shell prompt basically it was a shell script that turned your ps1 it just it was literally just export ps1 uh turn it into like an angle bracket that's all it was and i did like an eight minute video on this thing on apr Fool's Day. And so many people took it seriously. OMG. I wouldn't have the guts to do that. Oh yeah.

What shell do you use? I use a ZSH or I guess people are going to complain. Zshell I guess. There you go. I don't like ZSH. It's the rising shell. Did you try? What did you think of fish?

I haven't tried fish actually. What? No, I went from bash to ZSH, it's the rising shell. What did you think of Phish? I haven't tried Phish, actually. What? No, I went from Bash to ZSH. I need to try Phish at some point. Yeah, but I'm not a huge fan of Bash. It's really bloated, but some of the new features are quite cool. I like the VI insert mode that they've got going.

Yeah. So, yeah, give me a rundown of your system. What is your window manager again? Currently, it's BSPWM, but I am trying out Awesome. BSPWM, that's part of a... Why do people use that one? It's an old school one, isn't it? Is it?

It's older than awesome. Let's find out. Probably younger than DWM. I don't know. It's still not... Yeah, words. Words are hard. Words.

Yeah, it's not really getting super updated at this point. There's a little bit of changes here and there, but I guess it is kind super updated at this point There's a little bit of changes here and there But I guess it is kind of old at this point I don't know I originally found it from one of Luke's videos Because I was a big fan of Luke When I first started using Linux Oh god

That was the reason I started using i3 And that was the reason I switched to BSPWM I'd never followed him to DWM though Dude That was the reason I started using i3 and that was the reason I switched to BSPWM. I'd never followed him to DWM, though. Dude. Yeah, maybe one day. Anyway, I just sort of liked how you had to sort of build up everything yourself. BSPWM is completely useless out of the box.

It barely functions as a window manager. You might as well just spawn a window in your x net rc that's basically how useful it is you sort of have to go and actually oh my god there's like 20 files no i don't like i don't like the project layout already no i'm a one file unix kind of guy i hate it when people spit out then you have to like oh yeah then you have to get control p working on them just to navigate the goddamn project nightmare and i hate moving between files keep it in one file guys jesus christ but yeah i've been using that for a while um uh i sort of got it to the point where it's pretty much done,

like where I want it to be. I'm not one of these people who just strip out my entire system and then redo it just because I want to do some different rice. I get it to the point where I'm happy, it does everything I need it to do, and then I'm good. No, Brody, you need to chip away. You need to delete the config

and rewrite it from scratch. It would be so much better for content, but I just don't want to. I really don't. Okay, maybe you're tired. Recently, I've done the exercise. For some reason, I do this every few years where I just delete my V rc and i just start from

scratch uh yeah i i think it's a good yeah i'm definitely like on a my my vim rc is getting a bit big at this point there's a lot of that doesn't need to be in there and if you use neo vim a lot of that a lot of stuff can be removed. There's definitely some legacy Vim stuff from when I used it that I haven't removed yet. Oh, so what is your editor of choice? NeoVim. I used Vim for like three months though. So there is some Vim config that is still in there.

Basically, when I switched to NeoVim, I copied everything over. So even stuff that NeoVim does out of the box for you. So you use Arch or something else? Yes, I use Arch. So Arch, PSWM, Alacrity, NeoVim. What else is there? Browser? Brave at this point.

It is becoming less lucrative to run. So I might just switch over to like ungoogled Chromium or something. Less lucrative. Oh, because of the attention token yeah yeah they're giving out less of the tokens now so i'm there's less of a reason to run it i'll just run ungoogled chromium with adblock it's basically the same effect you don't care for the different engines like gecko versus chrome whatever it's called oh i i, I've tried out some other browser engines and Chromium is just the best one right now. Sadly, I don't like it. Is Brave using Chromium?

Yes, Brave is Chromium. Oh, man. Because Brave was started by the Firefox guys, I think. Yes, yes, it was. Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned yeah my i kind of started out on this rap game doing web stuff so it's a little bit scary to think that that chrome is the one engine to rule them all i yeah i don't like it like that's i would love to be able to run firefox it's just that yeah people say firefox is perfectly fine like it's it's really not though what's wrong what's wrong with firefox for you i've found that it at least on my system it seems

to be considerably slower uh that's one of the big things for me and i have had some rendering issues from time to time it's nothing nothing major like when i do any like i occasionally will go back and do some web development stuff i do run chromium and firefox because you just gotta make sure it works on everything but i mainly run a chromium browser hmm i'm mainly running firefox but i do have some fomo like am i missing out but no i'm i'm i'm running firefoxes i feel like we really need to have two different browser engines for a start maybe i'll just run cute for the memes or something cute oh this is the minimalistic browser yeah yeah i haven't tried it out yeah it would be

nice if there was a minimalistic browser uh sockless has got one surf no i mean that's just a joke web kit yeah well yeah i'm a bit worried about the web the web the web seems to because i feel like i've spent many years um promoting the way i mean half of me has been promoting open source and half of me has been promoting using the web. Open source, I think, has come a long way. But the web is like, you know, like I was just in the airport just hanging around there. As you do, yep. And there was a banner saying like, you know, if you want more information, go to the Google App Store, the Apple App Store and the Huawei App app store it's like what where's the web address it's like no now it's behind oh sometimes they'll still have a web address you just be behind a qr code no this one didn't i was like i was kind of shocked

and then and like and even in the public sector in singapore many times it's like, oh, we need an app. Like, you don't. You're just trying to discern some information. The web is fine. Oh, yeah, but we need to have the ability to take pictures. You can do that on the web.

Things like that. So, yeah. Sucks. But that's, yeah, a lot of joy in this computing world that we're living in the beginning of the information age well i sort of i i think i was when did i first get a an internet connection i think i was like maybe 10 before i first got an internet connection so sort of in like that last generation that had any period of time where they didn't have internet like the only reason i didn't was because i lived in rural australia and back then it would have been dial up and my parents was like we don't need it so until i moved back to the city then i just didn't have a connection yeah yeah my child my child has has been born with the internet

symmetrical gigabit yeah right now he's just been going through every app store game and the apple app store i thought was curated but it's just full of junk there's so much like ad where dodgy stuff with like you know chinese characters with big breasts you know kissing you and like oh my god it's less bad than the play store because there are things on the i don't know if you've seen this but there are things on the play store where google has marked it as malware and then just don't remove it it's just like this is malware like take it off the store then yeah i think they have different approaches but i mean the the app store approach of curating things also doesn't seem to work because there's there's just a lot of bad stuff and it's weird because like every app who does this adware

the ads are for different apps so they go from app to app to app to app it's one weird sort of circle jerk pretty bad and most of them are probably bitcoin miners and I doubt that on the app store but it's maybe Apple's i uh apple's better than

they're all trying to get you to to to buy some tokens i think so that you can in-game use it for something else yeah and like yeah when you're a child and you're on my my apple accounts it's not that cool, is it? Because he's pretty smart. He's already figured out some of my piddens and then he'll one day figure out my Apple ID and then I'm done. Done. Just get yourself a, I don't know,

a hundred character password or something. Stick it in a password manager, you'll be good. If he manages to crack that, then I don don't know you should send him to some like really prestigious universities he's clearly the smartest person in the world i think he's yeah most people can figure out this out yeah it's a strange what it's it's interesting to think what kind of experiences you're going to have. I haven't gone to Linux yet. My youngest nieces and nephews, they're like five and six. They have iPads and it's weird. I don't get it.

Put your kids outside or something. What do you mean weird? What don't you get about it? I don't know. maybe it's just because when i was growing up i didn't really have like i like smartphones didn't come out until i was in high school so i it's kind of weird for me seeing kids now with just always going to be attached to their phone from like from basically the day they can pick up a phone yeah yeah like the moment my son wakes up he's like clambering for the ipad like it's like some sort of umbilical cord or something yeah it's pretty i guess i'm the

same so i'm setting a terrible example amount of time i spend on my computer is ridiculous but yeah that's fair and and lately um lately maybe I'm getting a bit cynical or depressed or something, but I do feel like I'm wasting my time sometimes. Especially when there are simpler ways to do it and things like this. I do think there is a lot of like, especially in the computer industry, I feel like there's a lot of like needless reinventing in some ways or um or not maybe reinventing is the wrong word i mean reinvention's not too bad but like i don't know just churn or something you know it's people just doing the same old thing in

a different way and whatever that's my entire channel. Yeah. Keep doing it. People like it, so I'll keep doing it. Yeah, I guess that's the fate with everything in this world. We'll just end up just redoing things again and again and again. And that's it, right? Pretty much. It's nothing really novel. But I definitely understand.

Like, there's so many... Just one little thing. really helpful but i definitely understand like there's so many just one little thing like if you want to do any sort of basic action in any language there'll probably be like 10 or 15 libraries to do it it's like we don't need all of these just work on one library and imagine how good that library would become but no everyone thinks they can do it better yeah yeah there's that yeah i'm i'm oh what programming language did you learn i didn't ask you that um i learned i like how this is turning into me being interviewed that's great uh it's fine i it means less work for me uh i start my niche before i went to uni actually did actually did some programming. I did Java.

By the end of the year, I knew more than the teacher because it was a high school class and the teacher just, he was reading the textbook as we were reading the textbook. Nice. Which was obviously not going to go very well. Then when I went to uni, first year we did more Java. I still don't like Java. Did you use like Maven or Gradle? Dependencies or anything like that?

We stuck everything in Eclipse and Eclipse just did everything magically for us. Shit. I think Eclipse uses Ant to do its building. Pieces from Eclipse, okay, whatever. And then did you get onto a proper language? We did Python after that, then C++.

That sounds terrible. Java, Python, and C++. And then some C Sharp after that. Oh, and also Swift. Okay, you've had a terrible education. We did like one week of c but the the engineers the ones who do c we don't the software engineers don't c and go that would have been good that would be nice oh we also did um so in we did a web

development course we did obviously javascript and html all that because you know it's web development um for a front-end library we did angular not like not the new version of angular the original version of angular i don't know why this was two years ago maybe to traumatize you maybe and for back-end development no php nothing no no no js like that's what everyone's actually doing now we did asp asp.net not sorry not original asp asp.net so at least we were relatively close to the modern year but asp.net so i'm i'm since then, you're onto something a bit more sane, right? You're using Go and you're using, I don't know, Vue.js or something.

When I do web development, I have done a bit of React because people love React now. I don't know what it's like in Singapore, but the two biggest frameworks here for web development are React and Angular, the good version of Angular. Yeah, I think there's people using Vue in Singapore. But yeah, Angular is like one of those things that are probably used in big evil enterprises

along with Java. And God, who wants to work there yeah i'd know some people who are like yeah i want to go get a job at like one of these big companies it'll be nice and stable like yeah but you also be a number yeah i in singapore i think i guess it's the same in australia. Like working with these Dell technologies like a drone, it's like the worst thing for me. Well, in Australia, at least in South Australia, there's a company called DXC. Who did DXC?

Yeah, they're AWS partners. Yeah, they're a worldwide company, but they have an office in Adelaide, and anyone who doesn't get hired within like the first year they will just bombard them with emails about like they'll just sweep up everyone they can sweep up yeah and then it becomes like a lowest common denominator it's in the interest of these companies to to basically standardize their processes and everything becomes java and angular the most enterprisey stuff then they just bang it bang out solutions hey isn't adelaide the place where where elon musk's

put that battery elon elon wait let's find out elon musk are you unaware of the battery oh yeah yeah i know what you're talking about. Yeah, the... What do you call it then? The big battery farm thingy. I don't know what to call it, but yeah. Can I get some more coffee? Sure. I'll just run out.

Dying here. Okay, I'll just talk about the battery. So, here we go. Here's the... Two years two years on Elon Musk big battery bet is paying off in Australia. Hornsdale battery is reducing costs for network key network functions battery owner Neon plans more giant storage facilities. Right I completely forgot this happened. So, basically, Elon Musk was like, lol, let's just stick a big battery in the desert in South Australia

because, you know, that's a fun idea. And then he did it because it's Elon Musk. And he may be slow at delivering, but he'll at least deliver at some point. Do you just have the coffee already made? Yeah, it's in a pot. Ah. Hey, what do you mean? He hasn't delivered? What do you just have the coffee already made yeah it's in a pot ah hey what what do you mean he hasn't delivered what do you mean oh no i mean like with with tesla he's uh the company's very slow at delivering things oh yeah missing deadlines missing the number of products

i suppose to deliver but it'll eventually be as a youtuber myself i would definitely like a toaster yes it's the youtuber car isn't it yeah i love it i love it and i must say elon musk his twitter account it's pretty strong he's he's got a pretty good meme game oh i i love elon's twitter it's great i love the replies as well because it's it's always the exact same thing people being like oh elon this is such a terrible hot take. And then the next day it's like, Elon, this is such a good hot take. You've never made a good hot take before, even though literally yesterday,

what, just... These people. Let's find out what Elon is saying right now. Oh, God. Okay, now this is just... He just posted about some snow falling in a gigafactory in Berlin. That's fine. Okay, now this is just... He just posted about some snow falling in a gigafactory in Berlin. That's fine.

Oh, yeah, he chose Berlin. I'm kind of surprised that he chose Berlin. So proud of Tesla for achieving this major milestone. We produced half a million cars. Okay, I don't know if that's less than they were supposed to deliver, but... Wow, he's actually being really tame right now. Oh, no, here we go.

Here's a fun one. This is about the... Did you see the Boston Dynamics dancing robot video? Oh, yeah. Great video. He took a screenshot from that and says, Snakehead Dog had my undivided attention until Winderhead Ostrich came gliding through all nonchalant.

Yeah, I remember that. Oh no boston diner who owns boston dynamics now i don't know let's find out boston dynamics when i saw that video i was just like just imagine those robots with guns Just imagine those robots with guns. Let's see. What did they say? Well, I had a question for you, Brody. What is like the biggest Linux-y conference? Say COVID didn't exist and you want to meet with like-minded people.

Where would you go for a conference thing? I think it's Linux. Is it called LinuxConf Sydney? I think so. Isn't it a bit of a mission for you to get to Sydney? How would you get there? Fly? Yeah.

I could drive there. It's only like 30 hours. Nice. It's definitely not that far, to be honest. A LinuxConf AU, and that, I believe, is in Sydney or Melbourne. Have you been there before? No, because last year I didn't go because I just started using Linux, and this year I didn't go because it was online. Last year, sorry, the year before that, yeah.

I've yet to have a good online conference experience. It's usually just a train wreck. I got invited to talk at VimConf 2020. What? Yeah, they were just inviting random people. How come I wasn't invited? I don't know. I don't know why I was invited.

I didn't end up doing it because I didn't have anything to talk about. Plus, I think it would have been at four in the morning my time. I was like, hmm, nah, I'm good. Here we go. Send you a link to it. Where's the link? chat okay are you into your coffee or anything like that ah I drink tea and my teacup is empty oh I

used to drink coffee you're drinking Lipton? This is Twinings. Twinings Australian Afternoon. Is it going to focus? I wonder if it will. Yes. Australian Afternoon. Okay. I wonder if that's any good. I think Twinings is not a great brand, but whatever.

They're very popular. I don't know if they're popular or if they just... I't know there's you can get lots of twinings in australia you just have like entire half sections of an aisle of the twinings i used to live in australia in melbourne myself oh yeah that's where i met that's where i met my my asian wife and uh who i'm married to now, obviously, in Singapore. I was perhaps living in Australia when I backpacked around the world and ended up in Australia. Sure. I must say I was very upset with Australia because it was so boring. Wait, you're in Melbourne?

What was boring about Melbourne? I don't know. It was a bit samey and people's people's thinking a certain way that didn't gel with me and um there's something that grated me about it but to be honest now that i have kids and i'm a bit more settled i probably would like to move back to australia perhaps um but i don't know where and i don't know about the job thing and i don't i hate the idea but about paying tax taxes 50 taxes or something crazy uh yeah taxes here are fun you know what i don't know i know they've been shifting stuff around because the problem australia has is

leadership changes way too much in this country i think think in the past five years, we've had four prime ministers. Yeah, yeah. The politics is a bit messed up. The way it works here is when one of the parties gets in power, we don't actually elect the leader. The party themselves elect the leader. So if they have a leadership spill,

then they can just have people coming in and coming out constantly uh australia income tax i don't actually know because i i'm in the bottom bracket and i guess since australia is a big government kind of country having a powerful job and in the government is probably probably quite alluring to some crazy people so tax rates in australia it's zero to eighteen thousand you don't pay any tax uh eighteen to thirty seven you pay nineteen percent then 37 to 87 anything above the 37 is then 32.5 then anything above 87 to 180 000 is 37 percent and then anything above 180 000 is 45 percent oh okay i'm probably going to be in the 180 000 let's be honest jesus that's my reality i'm productive i'm slowly pushing my way into that 19 bracket

wow man i think this year i should be yeah but then there's also other taxes to worry about like i think you probably have like a high vat or something uh you've got we've got gst on basically everything we've got and how much is that 10 oh that's not too everything. We've got... And how much is that? 10%. Oh, that's not too bad. We've got the... Because in the UK, it's like 20. It's like madness to me. That's stupid. I was really sad when a lot of the...

So a problem that the government had, it wasn't a problem for the citizens, is that if I bought something from like America or Japan, I didn't have to pay GST on it. But in like the past, I think last year or so, they fixed that. So now everything is just 10% more expensive. Ouch. Well, in Singapore, if it's less than $400 in total or something,

for a shipment, you don't have to pay taxes on it or customs duties or things things which is quite nice the nice yeah amazon works really well like you order something from us and it comes here within a week and it's us prices which is just great the nice thing about australia unlike the us is that anything that has extra taxes on it are just attached to the price. It's not like, here's the price. Here's extra taxes on top of that you didn't know about.

Yeah, I mean, America it's not that bad as people make it out to be. But anyway, it's easy. Singapore is really easy with taxes. So I was just keen to see if you had any like wanderlust do you want to get out of your adelaide rural town i'm not in a rural area right now um you're in the city

uh suburbs do you want to do you want to go somewhere or you're kind of happy in your sticks or something i want to i want to go rural i want to get away from the city you want to go rural you want to do like a myth walking through the freaking desert or something i want to go live by down by the river that sounds like fun what's down by the river i don't understand it's near the river i would live near the river that's what i would do no one there except internet no there's there's there's plenty of internet there what's down by the river like the adelaide river uh down by the murray river so that's like the major river that goes from like um south australia all the way into like victoria so what's your dream situation you just just perched by the river out of the city. Yeah. Down by, down somewhere like, uh,

Wakery or Berry. Then I can just walk down to the river, go fishing. Yep. Absolutely. Sounds like lots of fun. Wow, man.

That doesn't sound too bad. I've heard of worse ideas. I used to have this idea that I wanted to live in the city and then I visited the city a couple of times and I didn't want to live in the city anymore yeah i'm i would say i'm a city person now but it's in the convenience factors like i enjoy it but like especially in this covid time i'm getting quite frustrated with it yeah i think my priorities have changed I think I would like to be rural but my wife isn't that keen on that sort of stuff

that's fair the best experiences of my life are in like rural South Africa going hunting and things like that they were so pure and so amazing and now look at me I'm a i'm a broken man i do want to leave australia at some point i don't want to like leave to live somewhere else but i would like to visit

some other countries yeah you should as you should you don't you should do your overseas experience go working go stack some shells in london i'm gonna go to london i'm not stuck in shelves there look maybe if i turn this youtube thing into a career i can uh i can business expense the flights oh my god be realistic brody be a realist you know i'm sure you get there if you try i can those hawaiian shirts are wearing my, I can business expense those because thumbnails. Business expense everything. Have you actually opened up a business to handle your accounts and stuff? Yeah.

So in Australia, it's actually... This is one of the few things in Australia that's actually very simple. If you operate as a sole trader, I guess it's called like a sole proprietor in the US and I don't know what it's called in Singapore. Basically, what... Actually, what is it called in Singapore? If you just operate a business guess it's called like a sole proprietor in the u.s and i don't know what's called in singapore basically what actually what is it called in singapore if you just operate a business where it's like i don't know a lawn mowing business or something you're the only employee i think it is a trader but most people set up limited because then you have

limited liability for some reason um so right now i'm running as a sole trader and the way it works here is any money you make just goes on top of your regular income so if i make say like 20 000 at my regular job and then from youtube i make another 20 000 then basically all the tax office cares about is you made 40 000 income this year pay tax on that and then you can offset it with the expenses i guess yeah i usually just hate the bookkeeping aspect to it i've been one of my big things i've been trying to do in this new year is to do like a fire financial independence retire early spreadsheet and it's driving me nuts because i i have so many accounts and different balances and transactions oh man my i need to get my um my affairs in order yeah my mine are in order enough

that i i'm not going to get audited but they need to be uh need a bit more work for sure if i especially if i wanted to do something like that yeah well i'm yeah well how are we doing for time just past an hour okay does anyone ever listen this long i don't know youtube watch times like everything says like six minutes um i think i have like attention is just i must be like this right uh on the podcast it's like and then there's a few, must be like this, right? On the podcast, it's like... And then there's a few people who are like, I'm going to watch to the end. Okay, if you got this far, I will give you...

No, people might skip ahead. Maybe. They won't skip ahead if I don't tell them. No, I can't think of a little prize.'s a prize we give you in singapore jesus christ it's actually a good image when i'm it's not super overexposed it's a good image considering so are So are you going to do like a... It's like individual hairs now. That's cool.

You're focusing on the wrong thing. When do you use Linux? Do you have like a way of like magnifying the screen to like, what do you use to like point out things? I usually zoom in on it in the edit basically uh so a lot of stuff i'm doing i'm doing in a terminal so i can just zoom in and like you know just highlight it or something i should do something where i like have a i don't know a circle pop around my mouse or something that might be a good idea

yeah if you figure that out let me know yeah actually i hadn't thought of doing that before i might have to look into that what is your any um what's your new videos any taster for the next videos uh the one that just came out today i went and did a second look at uh github cli and just because when i originally looked at it there was a lot of stuff missing from it this is like a v2 of the cli i think sorry what's that i think there's like a v2 of the cli isn't it um i think it's something like that but when i looked at it originally it was during the beta still and i had like you couldn't even do things like create a new issue or create a pull request. So it was kind of useless.

Since then, it's pretty much the only thing that's missing at this point, I would say, is being able to comment on issues and pull requests. Anything else you can already do from it. Which is nice, because if you're working with Git anyway, I don't particularly want to have to then go to the Git website to make an issue or do things like that. I'd much rather just do it from my environment. GitHub is so much faster and easier to work with than, say, Jira.

Oh, my God, Jira. And that's what I'm having to deal with at work. Oh, my God. But I'm a bit pissed off that GitHub is like Microsoft. Yeah. Got to get things going on GitLab or I don't know host your own Git instance or something the best Git repository

the best what do you call it stuff I've ever seen is the Succlass community they have everything everything you need right a mailing list which doubles as a bug tracker doubles as a discussion forum and they have like a simple instance of git web

this stuff and the way that they do it is so simple and elegant it's so good i wish other projects could do the same thing fortunately not well on that note you know let's talk about um the video that I found. I guess we found out about each other from, or you found out before. I don't know. Where did you even find my channel originally? If you remember. I don't remember.

Okay. I made a video of you when I just came across you. Okay. Because, yeah, this is the video where I actually found you and knew who you were this one this fun video I can't see what you're playing that chat if you open up the chat on the left hand side there's little there's little icon on the bottom left corner oh okay yeah this video I I don't want to play the audio for this i really don't what am i doing

score oh okay yeah that one i'm not sure that there's a scroll utility yeah oh god i hate the pretty gold one yeah but i remember you making god God, I'm looking at... Oh, no. That's the video I discovered you, yeah. Oh, no. How many subs did I have at the time? Wow, only 5.8k. Wow.

Jesus. That was a while ago. There's so much wrong with what's happening in this shot. There's so much wrong with what's happening in this shot there's so much wrong with it what the fact that there's a chair and a and a blanket or something uh what's wrong with the shot no i'm talking about my my um my shot yeah yeah you look a little scary there i do that that was back when i was in my old place i was real depressed at the time because i i hated my house mate and then like the camera i had below me which is not a good angle for me it there's a reason why i have my camera above me now because i didn't know you're in so much pain brody i'm sorry you're vulnerable also i think i was using natural light as well

and plus yeah the beard the beard needed some work didn't it yeah your beard I must admit is in a better place now but still my presentation style was so bad as well

I can't I can't. I can't. It's awful. So what made you want to include me in that video? I don't know. I think you were just showing that you needed to patch it. Because in my heart of hearts, I know it's completely misguided. I like to use the defaults

so i was just trying to prove that you don't have to patch it because if you hang around the cyclist channel like 99 of the stuff is like how do you patch something it's like i do see those on reddit enough so i could only imagine directly on the cyclist stuff you know it's a good i like the way that cyclists do it because it shows you that that there is a cost to patching things and maintaining a patch so i'm not i don't think most people most people are consumers right they don't understand that but we're trying to we're trying to um kick the consumers out the door if you know what i mean but it doesn't quite work out half the time so yeah you don't need to patch your way through life just use the defaults to be fair there are some patches for std might be a good idea which patches

do you use let Let's find out. It's been quite a while since I actually looked at them. ST patches. Bold is not bright which basically just fixes the bold fonts. Okay. Okay this one you don't actually need Box draw I just like box draw It just makes The Unicode box symbols actually render properly The ones that are just like not Filled

Yeah they just don't attach by default That one you really don't need Font 2 you kind of need Because ST doesn't want to fix an issue that exists in um the font system on on linux where basically if uh i think emoji fonts are missing st might just crash if it comes across an emoji oh okay that one the only reason that patch exists is because the developers of the actual font system don't want to fix it, and Suclus themselves don't want to fix it.

There's an Xorg thing, you know, RGBA or something. You know what I mean? If you install that, then you don't have any emoji issues. Oh, okay. I didn't know about that. I'll have a look into that. Maybe someone's mentioned it to me, and I just... i didn't know about that i'll have a look into that i know maybe

someone's mentioned to me and i just i don't know yeah it's some old xorg issue and then i have to patch it and then i have scroll back because i don't want to run a uh like t-marks or anything like that well you didn't you didn't try the scroll utility that I mentioned in my video I think I tried it but I haven't used ST actively in quite a while so maybe I'll just go and switch to that if I actually did start using ST

more okay cool I'm guessing you don't run many patches then or any patches I try not to but I do patch stuff. I mean, I do fiddle around with things. But then I do embrace the cost of it.

When you're on Reddit suck list, there's always someone like, oh, look at my auto-patching system. It's like, oh, God. Oh, God. You missed the point entirely. I do have a couple of patches for Dmenu. One of the ones actually is kind of useful. It's Dmenu Instant.

Basically, if there's one item in the Dmenu prompt, it will just instantly close it, which is kind of useful for me. So if I use Dmenu for my launcher, if I shorten down the list to the point where there's only one application in there, I don't have to press enter. It just does it for me.

But you might accidentally make a typo and launch something accidentally. You might, yes. I find dmenu has an issue with emojis. It's damn slow. I'm using Luke Smith's Bicker. Oh yeah, that's the thing, isn't it? I forgot about that.

And it just grinds to a halt for me. Yeah, there might be a problem with them, I'm not sure. But to be honest, Mac's emoji picker sometimes grinds to a halt for me. I think it might just be a problem with how many emoji there are at this point. Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. And then there's the... It it's gonna grow too isn't it yeah because you've got the the base set emoji and then any like human emojis they've got like different color variants of the emoji as well and then everyone's gonna like wonder how why are this

like 10 times more emoji than chinese characters so it's easy why this happened and then also you have uh yeah we don't need this in any way just stop let's just go back to your motocons that'll be nice people don't even know what they are right no so can't go back to that i'm just looking at the suckless reddit hmm sure okay let's look at the Suckless. I've never gone to the Suckless Reddit before. There's never been any Josiah. What is your favorite Reddit channel? CommandLine's pretty good.

CommandLine. Usually it's people talking about various CommandLine applications they've made. I think I've fallen out with the moderators of Archon X. I can't post anything there without them removing it. The joy. Let's see what fun we have on r slash suckless. I didn't even know this existed. It makes sense, but it sort of defeats the purpose that

you're talking about suckless on a place like reddit come on i didn't know about this one it looks okay uh blank android studio in dwm what that has nothing to do with dwm all right here we go here's the first um it needs to read the man page. Here's a DWM rice. That makes sense. Do you mean you show Chinese smaller than English? Yes, because fonts are weird.

Yeah, I think DWM, I mean, they use font configure, then they've gone back to using bitmap or something. Because font configure then they've gone back to using bitmap or something because fun config is a nightmare i think it's what that what happened i'm not too sure about it myself and then it's the same with the zinorama like they did uh support multiple displays it turns out to be a nightmare so they've taken it out again, which is great. I like the fact that they said, no, we're going to reduce complexity because usually software goes completely the other way.

Hey, a good subreddit for going the complete other way is r slash Unix porn. Oh, yeah. What a great subreddit. When I was younger, I used to spend ages on my background and now I just have a black background because you realize after a while that like the way that computers work is like it's, it's got, you know, if you have a high resolution image in the background, it's keeping lots of that and copies of that in the memory just to be able to display it.

Then you, I have enough memory that doesn't bother me when you when you have a black background that all that goes away i i've got plenty of memory i think i'm fine how much memory do you have uh 32 gigs on this system what the hell you're such a ricer honestly it's good for running vms It's good for running VMs. Oh, VirtualBox? Or how? Yeah, VirtualBox.

I should try out VertManager at some point, but I'm lazy. No, VirtualBox works quite well, except for the fact that it's Oracle. IGWM here, is there? For what's that? Oh, I wanted wanted to ask you what's your opinion on wayland i tried it for about five minutes

i was like wow this worked really well and then i went back to x what it works really well and then you went back to x yeah because i realized that all of my x tools weren't going to work. Cause.

Yeah. What I find a bit annoying is that they have that like X or what do you call it? Compatibility layer. So you don't even know if you're actually using Wayland in some cases. Okay. Well, you didn't get far with it then.

I've been dabbling a while. I think it, they does some things that are better like for example the I don't know the I don't see tears in Wayland but if you don't explicitly put tear free on

X.Org you can get some horrible I don't know why tear free isn't like almost the default in X.Org there's an option for that there is like exact exact x randa output tear free oh wait and like exact x randa for some reason the default output doesn't show you whether what do you say the option was called tear free yeah what the wait what why is that an option who wants what why is under what situation do you want screen tearing i know it's a fucking nightmare i did not know about that thank you because i've had some pretty pretty bad screen tearing um playing some games recently and it's just not being fun.

Yeah. I would love it if the Excel could print a FPS counter like Steam so you kind of know when things are getting a bit edgy. Hmm. I imagine this is a util to do it somewhere. For example, on webpages when you're

scrolling, sometimes the frames per second, I think you can see it in Chrome. Sometimes it really drops. Yeah, I've definitely seen that before. I had just chalked it up to being a Chrome problem. That's probably a crappy website.

I happen to be on YouTube, so I'd hope that YouTube knows. I hope they know how to develop a website at this point i've been doing it for long enough i don't know i think they're focusing on the on their app right yeah yes because you know apps are the apps of the future have to do everything with an app yeah that's right um yeah what else is there to talk about i think i asked you all the questions i wanted to ask you did you actually prepare questions not really okay i was just curious i guess my overarching question is like why are you interested in this stuff? That's a very good question. I've sort of always been like a tinkery sort of person.

And it just sort of, it's sort of a natural progression to eventually get myself onto Linux and eventually start using window managers. Just, I like to break stuff, usually break stuff more than fix it. You must've broken out of the whole GNOME KDE cage. So when you first installed it...

I first installed Arch and I installed a window manager. You first installed Arch? That was your first? Yes, that was my first history. Oh my Lord. Okay, no wonder. Arch and i3 is my first time on... I guess I had used Ubuntu in a vm before but it was for

like little things not actually daily driving you must have had a friend or someone telling you the arch was the one to install was it my video no as as i've said before it's because i used to watch a lot of luke's videos here's the reason why everyone uses Arch in I3. Are you worried about Luke? Isn't he becoming more detached? Detached from reality, yeah. That's one way to put it. I don't know.

He's an odd unit, he's an odd, he's a, he's progression. He's an odd unit. That's for sure. Yeah. I just sort of sit back and just watch what happens. And also I do have some amusing things that I noticed. Um, cause he's the sort of person who likes to not make a video for like a week or two and then come back out of nowhere.

And I've noticed a few times because i know that he has my channel in his list of rss feeds he's subscribed to i've noticed that i will upload a video and then a day later he will do basically the same topic like i'm doing that to him this week i'm talking about uh why video games aren't necessarily evil have you spoken to him uh no i the last really the only time i spoke to him people think that we're friends um i spoke to him on the comment section of the video where he recommended my channel that's basically the only time okay yeah i haven't had any direct contact really but there's some strange characters in the community. I feel like the most normal one.

Hopefully people will agree with that. Or like, hey, the car is the weird one in Singapore. Singapore sounds like a pretty cool country. Yeah, that's good. I recommend it. I like living here. Okay, Brody, let's end this. I need to. I like living here. Okay, let's end this. I need to get to school.

Okay. Yeah, cool. We can end this. Usually what I do at the end of a podcast is do you have a channel, a YouTube channel that you've been enjoying content from that you want to kick the lick? Don't you gonna like, put the link somewhere below in the script oh no no i was gonna say let me let me finish what i was gonna say do you have a channel that you've been watching youtube uh watching on youtube that you want to give a shout out to we'll do your stuff in a second no nothing is tom scott tom scott yes okay cool everyone watch tom scott tom scott makes awesome content

um i'm sure everyone already knows about tom scott to do it cracks me up ryan the leader oh yes no ryan the leader is great i've been uh i've been watching a lot of his stuff recently yeah it's like the camera work and the comedy just cracks me up i was not expecting you to mention uh ryan the leader that's out of all the channels you could up. I was not expecting you to mention Ryan the Leader. Out of all the channels you could have picked, that was not the one I was going to think of. But, yeah, I recommend Ryan's stuff. He makes absolutely great content.

As for me, I'm going to say check out... Have I mentioned his channel on here before? I don't know. Maybe. Check out EEVblog. EEVblog is an electronics engineer channel. He's Australian too, right? He is from Sydney, yes.

And he recently uploaded a video doing another video on solar freaking roadways. Because they keep getting funded for some reason. Solar... Oh Oh okay. There's a company called. Solar freaking roadways. And they've had millions of dollars of funding. To basically make. A couple meter.

Section of. Solar roadway. That they haven't had cars drive on in six years. Yeah. I really like people like him. because he definitely um what do you call it he shoots down bad bad ideas yeah absolutely i feel yeah i wish i could shoot down bad ideas like proprietary software and complexity but i haven't figured that i don't think i'm doing a good great job it's been done so many times already doing them like an original way is kind of difficult. What?

The ones, the complexity argument, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. There's so many people already done those sort of videos that I don't know what sort of new take you could make on it. The problem exists. It does. I would like to make videos of like where I just like use an application or something.

I'll just show you. Why did I do it this way? Don't do it. Anyway. Cool. Where can people find you? Oh, I have a web address. Unlike you sharecroppers, I'm not living on YouTube exclusively.

Hendry.icky.fee. Okay. Maybe link that one down below. Your YouTube channel? It's linked from Hendry.icky.fi maybe link that one down below your YouTube channel it's linked from hendry.iki.fi I'm going to ride this I'm not a sharecropper train

I'll have the link to it in the description then cool so before we go I would like to thank my supporters a special thank you to Chris Joachim, Donald Michael, Andre Nathan, David, Joachim, Donald, Michael, Andre, Nathan, David, Monteser, Will, Chikabento, Joseph, Mitchell, Peter D, Tony, Tushar, and all of the $2 supporters.

If you'd like to watch my main channel, that is just Brodie Robertson, find it on YouTube, Odyssey, things like that. I'll have a website eventually. I'm like Kai, who already has one. Yeah, I know. I need to set it up. I'm lazy. This podcast, if you're listening to the audio version, there is a video version available

on YouTube and Odyssey. If you're watching the video version, the audio version, you can just look up on literally any podcasting app, you'll find it. Thank you guys for watching. We are, I think, just about to hit an hour and a half. So, sure, we'll just end it there then. Cool. I'll give you the final words.

Watch, like, subscribe. I don't know. Yeah. I'm glad. What can I say? Suck less, guys. Please, suck less than I just glad. What can I say? Suck less, guys. Please, suck less than I just did. She'll go with that.

Oh, Lord.