Tech Over Tea - #58 Linux YouTube, LBRY & RMS | The Real Geek

Episode Date: April 7, 2021

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Welcome to episode 58 of Take of a Tee. I'm, as always, your host, Brodie Robertson, and today's guest is another fellow Linux YouTuber, but he doesn't do, like, the sort of software review stuff like I do. Mainly, he focuses on doing these discussion-y and rant-y sort of videos. Welcome to the show, The Real Geek. Hey, thank you, man. Thanks for having me on. Not a problem. And watching some of your podcasts. Thank you. Yeah. on not a problem some of your podcasts thank you yeah uh i just say but just because i i will get tired by the end of this um it is 11 45 p.m right now so by the time we're done it'll be about 1 45 p.m uh i i literally just walked inside and i realized i still have my knife with me

don't don't cut me please it's fine now this's fine. Actually, I won't demonstrate how blunt this thing is because YouTube will demonetize me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can cut along my neck. You have to jam it in anything to get it cut. It's basically a blunt object at this point. Just don't do anything to that magnificent beard you have there because I'm jealous.

This is what I get. This is my uh lockdown beard and it won't get any bigger than this yeah this has been a work in progress for a while you can go back to the early videos and uh there's a lot of comments back then where people complained a lot about the beard because it wasn't great yeah i i think i actually caught one of your first when you come into the scene because you did a lot of arts videos and coding and stuff like that and I'm really interested in that area because like you said I do a lot of rant videos because I like to talk but I also one of my one of the reasons why I do

this and I say that a lot on my own I have a starting to do a little bit of a live stream maybe Sunday and it's because I like to know what makes people, or how people interact with their computer. I call it the human connection. Because people like you and all of the other Linux YouTubers are really great at talking about coding, free and open source software, and stuff like that. And I'm just a nerd in his department.

I'm a mechanic. I don't understand those kind of things. But I do talk to a lot of people on my day-to-day work. So that's kind of like, why are people choosing, like we talked about OBS over XSplit when we're talking streaming software or Linux over Windows and stuff like that which can give me a lot of heat because I'm really opinionated about them yeah I've had some people complain that

I might be a bit too opinionated but I've watched some of your videos and yeah you are very straight to the point of where you stand on stuff yeah yeah I'm um it I think it has something to do with I'm I'm on the autistic spectrum so I don't have a lot of filters a lot of people have. And I've actually been wanting to do this YouTube thing for 10 years or something like that. And I did it a couple of years ago Linux-wise, but I've been doing gaming for longer, almost since 2012, I think.

Okay. But I just felt I was too opinionated. But then one of my friends, he was like, you know what, just do it and see if it sticks. Throw it to the wall and see if it sticks. And people apparently like what I'm saying. They do disagree with me and they correct me. And that's what I love.

I love when people like you, if I'm talking coding, I'm like, hey, Kent, that's not how it works. You're going to nuke the whole country if you're doing that code. You know, I'm like, hey, Kent, that's not how it works. You're going to nuke the whole country if you're doing that code. Okay, okay, okay. Watch out, that might be a fork bomb. Don't do that if you want your system to run. Yeah, I love that.

I love to learn and I love to explore and stuff like that. But like I said, I noticed your videos about art was your first distribution and now my brain starts to think why was that i'm really really curious why you were not ubuntu as everyone is doing you know and i think you talked about that in one of your videos if i'm not mistaken uh yeah a lot of my early a lot of my early content style a lot of my early influence in in linux came from um from luke smith's channel and that's there was three main channels that got me into linux it was um because i was already i already had a programming background but i'd been doing programming on the windows side

and i decided towards the end of my time at uni i was like let's actually give this linux thing a try and see what it's actually like so at the time i was watching uh luke smith distro tube and the one who actually first got me like thinking about linux was actually brian lunduk i saw one of his oh yeah yeah yeah one of his really early uh linux sucks talks i don't remember what year it was i need to ask him at some point. I'm trying to get him on the podcast, but Lunduk, if you're listening to this, please answer your damn emails more than once a week. Get on his podcast,

please. I want to see you interview him. Please. He said he'll do it. He just never reads his emails, so I'm trying to arrange a time. He's just not responding to the arrange a time email anyway ranting about lunduk not reading his emails aside um there was an early linux sucks talk that he did where he talked about i think it was a smart crockpot i don't remember what year it was

but oh that's the early ones i think i remember that one i can never remember what year it was but no i had no idea what this linux sucks thing was and i just watched it i was like oh this is actually a really good talk and from there i just sort of kept snowballing from just sort of seeing what linux was actually capable of because i was still of the mindset that you know linux was where it was like back in the 90s where there was a lot of limitations what what you could actually do. But now there's nothing really stopping you, for the most part,

doing what you need to do on a Linux system. No, I think you're right. I just, I'm a little bit more of a pragmatic, instead of an idealist, as, you know, if you go to the Winter Storm and camp, you go all to idealism and politics and stuff like that. This is what I get a lot of flack from, so I would love to hear your point. I always say to people, use the best tool for the job or the tool you want to use.

Take the best hammer you have to hammer in the nail or the best screwdriver. And some people are like, no, no, no, you should promote Linux and all of that stuff. And how do you see that? You know, am I just a crazy old fool? No, I'm in the exact same camp. Okay. I actually had a discussion with someone about the recent potential purchase of Discord by Microsoft.

And there's a bunch of people being like, okay, if Microsoft buys it, everyone just needs to, like, all the Linux guys need to stop using Discord, and my argument was, it's still the exact same piece of software. It's still going to be proprietary, it's just now Microsoft owns it. Nothing's actually changed with it.

And Microsoft, at least with a lot of their tech stuff, seems to take a very hands-off approach. Like, they bought GitHub, and GitHub's just doing the github thing the way i think microsoft sort of handles this company acquisition thing is they buy companies that are like do like working successfully and then just scrape profit profits off the top of them um but exactly back to the the pragmatic software thing um i'm more than happy to use something proprietary if it's going to be the better tool for the job.

I mainly use free software because most of what I want to do can be done as good or better on free software. For example, a web browser. There is no practical reason to use a proprietary web browser. All of the good ones are open source.

Yeah. Or like a code editor. All of the good ones are open source. Yeah. Or like a code editor, all of the good ones are open source. Yeah. I just like Chrome because it integrates a lot with the stuff I do, you know, but a lot of my, my mom used Firefox, you know, you know, it's just me that have a personal preference with some plugins. That means that I like Chrome better, you know,

but I just get frustrated when I see a lot of people going this pro you know open source and and I have a video you you your audience would be the first one to know it but I have a video I'm going to make called the Linux religion where I'm going it's a little bit I like to joke around with my videos and not make them too seriously. But it's kind of like where I think some people are taking it a little bit too far. And if you look at the whole mentality is that, well, you're using proprietary tool, my friend, let me now lecture you for two hours. Why? That's bad. And that's this fanboy,

this mindset that I think sadly some people have. And I think it's hurting us a little bit. And you see that with Richard Stoltenberg come back. I saw your video, part of your video about it. I need to watch it. It's done here. And I had a lengthy discussion,

like almost 40 minutes on my last live stream about it need to watch it if done here and i had a lengthy discussion like almost 40 minutes on my last live stream about it and like or dislike him if they want to work with him let them work with him as you know like it's it's i don't agree with him on a lot of things but he's done a lot of great stuff open source he's got a lot of uh opinions that are a bit exactly questionable but but my big problem with the storming thing was it was so there was someone saying to me um storming has done so much damage to the fsf after he's after like the initial stuff now now as he's saved the leader and then like up until 2019 he's just been, like, hurting the organization, and my argument was, if you want, if he's actually detrimental to the organization, that is a problem for the FSF to deal with

themselves, and if you are, like, if you are going to have problems with whatever he's saying, there needs to be some sort of path to retribution, because what I'm seeing is you have a bunch of people trying to basically blacklist him from both of the organizations he made, blacklist him from every single Linux conference in the world, basically make the entire board of directors of the FSF resign and lose their positions. All of them? Yeah, that's what part of the letter was.

The cancel letter was to get the entire board of directors to resign. At this stage, the president is going to resign, which is a perfectly fair position because if anyone's going to resign for a poor PR decision, it should probably be the leader of the organization. Like that, I can accept that. Yeah, yeah. But there was no path to retribution. It was just like, no, Stallman is just not allowed in the entire FOSS industry at all anymore.

That's a big problem. And like I say to a lot of people is that we may disagree with him, we may dislike him, we may have some, he may have said some things we don't align with, but hey, some people don't agree with

what you and I are talking about right now. Should we be canceled for having those opinions? As long as we're not hurting or putting people in danger, it's up to the people working with those people. If they're like,

yeah, he may be quirky, he may have some things going on, but we like working with him. And that's their choice. And like I said, I had a friend that was really, really vocal about it. And I'm like, well, you have one choice. Go and be involved with the Free Software Foundation. Those are the people that are, you know, in power.

Those are the people you have to convince are not me. I can't do anything. And comment section on YouTube cannot do anything. A petition cannot do anything. You know, it's crazy. My other argument is if you don't like the FSF, if you want to, say, start a campaign to get people to cancel their memberships and you want to cancel your own membership and anything,

like you maybe want to even push people to some other organization. I don't know what it is. Maybe you want to promote ethical source. That any like you maybe want to even push people to some other organization i don't know what it is maybe you want to promote ethical source that's a whole that's a whole discussion right there i've never heard about that if we can get into ethical source afterwards it is you might want to make a video on this it's actually amazing um but if you want to promote some other organization over the fsf because you don't like their decision. That's perfectly respectable But I don't think I don't think there's any any way you can defend just blacklisting someone. Oh It's not like he he did any of the things he said he Had some poorly thought out ideas coming from someone who has always been really bad at understanding other people's

emotions there's there was a big discussion on um on hacker news discussing um whether richard stallman has autism i don't know yes he does yeah uh they text one to no one but there was this like a massive thread onacker News discussing it and then discussing whether him having autism was an excuse for things that he said. Because it's Hacker News. Hacker News does weird things. No, no, but they're kind of right. Should we be held accountable for what we think and what we say?

I don't think so. Like I said, as long as we're not hurting anyone. But yeah, ultimately, you're just that you're just saying something. There's no actions being taken there. But like you say, or yeah, like you're saying, is that it's up to the companies if they want to work with that person. It's in their right to say, you know what? This is bad for our product or our organization.

That's in their right to take them in or push them out. Yeah, but yeah, ethical. I just wrote it down down that's why i just had a piece of paper so so i'm going to look into that ethical source oh okay so i'll actually i'll send you something else as well this is the other the hippocratic license oh where's that popping up then i'll'll send... It should... Oh, God, they've changed the interface. Along the bottom bar, there should be a little message icon box. If I send you a link, it should show up. Oh, chat room.

I need to put in a name. Is that the one? I can just send you a link on Twitter, actually. That'll also work. Yeah, I'll do that. Okay. Oh, I see it now. Oh, you see it? Okay, yeah.

It used to just be up to the left hand side um basically this is a software license that uh its aim is to be or to stop people using software in a harmful way and the way it defines harm is based around the uh the un uh human rights definitions which is amusing because the un human rights are kind of a joke and that's a that's a whole podcast by itself why the un human rights are are just a mess um but also this license claims to be an open source license while actively discriminating against activities and specific groups. Okay, yeah, I have to look into that. Yeah, it looks like a can of worms, to be honest. This is by the same group who created everyone's favorite code of conduct, the Covenant.

The Covenant code of conduct. See, those things I don't go into i don't look at them i don't want it's fair yeah they're a can of worms they're just gonna get a massive argument happening but yeah yeah that's why i stopped you i am on twitter and you and i connected via twitter which is amazing but for me it's mostly just a promotion tool and to look at people like you you know what's going on with lin with Linux into tech world and stuff like that. I was so stupid. I woke up at 6 AM.

I went on the Twitter. I read a thread and I was like, yeah, my brain cells just died. I think people need to just be off Twitter. Just go outside a bit. Just anything else you can. I don't care where you go.

Just get your brain out of twitter for a little bit it'll be good for your health what's your favorite anime school anime or what it is the young kids watch nowadays like i i have a day off social media i take my sundays off no i what i do watch instagram in the morning because I have so many friends I connect with there. But I try to stay off Twitter. I try to stay off Instagram. I think I watch my YouTube comments like one time. I do that with YouTube in general.

I go on to my comment section when I upload a video. And then one time a day to respond to videos and analytics and stuff like that or else my brain will just go yeah i i really need to address how much i spend on youtube analytics and comments and stuff i will check it multiple times throughout the day um instagram i'm fine with though because i so my instagram is nothing but like promote like like what's the word I'm thinking of? Motivational speakers and like ex-Navy SEALs, just like dudes doing workouts all the time. And then my sister.

Yeah, David Dawkins and stuff. Okay, I have to follow you. Yeah, that sort of crowd. It's Brodie Robertson on Instagram or something like that. I think it's Tech of a T on Instagram, actually. I have to look that up. Then I love those things. Cause yeah.

Yeah. I follow like Joe Rogan, the rock, David Goggins, those sorts of people. And then my sister, that's all I have on Instagram. That sounds like being,

and then, you know, my, my friends and some girls, of course. But yeah. And then I get a lot of catfishes on there. That's always fun.

But, but yeah, I, I I watch like I said I watch your and Christian's uh last podcast together and you guys were talking about YouTube and how much time you put into everything and I was just like yeah that's not me I'm doing like the bare minimum or something like that like I'm gonna make my color my background different color there we go oh you have oh it's I was about to ask my background a different color. There we go. Oh, you have... I was about to ask you if it was LED script or something like that. Yes.

Or is it just... They are 50 watt. They're not 50 watt. 50 watt, according to eBay, floodlights. They are... Okay. So someone did a teardown of these. They actually have a 30 watt

30 watt light in them. They're not 50 watt. Okay nonsense, but They're pretty bright They look awesome. They look awesome man. So what was was that the EV EVG plug that that set them down? He's a fellow Australian David Jones, you know, i have watched this i've watched this stuff for years now some random tech blog somewhere um oh no i love dave's content yeah yeah he's great he's also a little bit into open source and open hardware which i actually now we you are a linux channel Is that something you thought about open hardware?

I've done a video on RISC, but I haven't looked too much into it, besides RISC. Yeah, RISC is open hardware, right? Yeah. I'm not that into it myself. Yeah, I'm not that much into it, but I think it's an interesting idea that us nerds and geeks with Linux, we like the open sourceness of Linux that we can tinker and all of that.

And I think there's a lot of engineering hobbyists out there that would love to tinker with their graphic card. You know, just sort on a capacitor if it blows up in your face or something like that, you know, like do these kind of things. So I think the merits with open source and open hardware would be perfect. Yeah, I would like to see more like sort of collaboration between these two communities because they seem to be very much in their own little bubbles. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That's what I don't like so much about the open source communities That they are too much in their own bubble Yeah, I am coming from

Since my early stuff was very much like Luke's content A lot of my subscribers are very much like the Super hardcore I run a thinkpad, I run DWM kind of people Yeah, yeah I made a ThinkPad, I run DWM kind of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I made a video about why... What the fuck was it called? You can swear, it doesn't matter.

Okay, that tiling Windows Managers for Tresop or something like that, where I debated that a lot of people watching YouTubers like us using tiling Windows Managers, and then they basically just want them to take screenshots, that there was no real productivity gain from them,

which there are, that's not what I was saying, but is it really necessary? Is that one second or one millisecond that you gain, is that really that hassle-worth? You run Tidings Windows Manager. Yeah, I run Austin WM right now. Yeah, how long does it take to set that up? gain is that really that hassle worth because it's you you run titan windows manager i run um awesome wm right now yeah how long does it take to set that up uh awesome okay so that whoever designed the key bindings i think is like some alien creature because they don't make any sense out of the box once i give it sensible key bindings um not too long because one of the good things about awesome is the default config is fairly

featureful it's just the dumb bindings dwm on the other hand is a mess if you try to install it and then run it out of the box or bspwm doesn't even have a config you install it it also doesn't have a hotkey daemon so you get a black screen and nothing else. You have to set it up from the TTY, otherwise it's not going to do anything. I guess if you have one before, then it's fine. That's for people that really want to punish themselves. They really love to punish themselves when they're running their computer. Yeah, I completely agree. What I was going to say was my thing is that i've turned the punishment of myself into

content for my channel so everyone else has done my dear for and that that's that's amazing that's great you know that that's uh yeah and i i think that's an amazing ability to to find that i'm not calling a niece but but you you're interesting in time when this mention then can convert that into something people can actually use. I'm a good friend online with someone called Esten. I don't know if you know about him. He makes an arch we spin called Easy Archer. And a Debian we spin.

No, he's kind of under the radar, even though he has 5,000 something subscribers, but he no thumbnail or anything like old school. I think he's in his 50s or something like that and we have these debates all the time about you know stuff like that but he also he just wants to re-spin arts and debbie and that's his content for the most part that he found out

this is something like to do people they can see you know an interest in it and then he popped those videos out so I think it's amazing that you guys can do that that's something I struggle a little bit with sometimes that's why it's mostly opinions i have on my videos no i actually um i really do respect the direction you go with your content because if i was just doing the rant videos i wouldn't be able to put out as many as you do like i have a couple of ranty topics i come up with every so often but like my bread and butter is the software stuff because i know that i will always

have more software stuff to do yeah i'm i like like i said i love to talk and and i've been using linux since i think it was 97 or 6 or something like that and i always wanted to not so much spread the word but tell people about it and then I started to watch the newer generation of Linux YouTubers come like that's five plus years five years or younger old and I just got frustrated with the politics and a lot of misinformation and I'm not saying you're one of them by the way but you know you can kind of all see who they are really easy if you go on the internet and they know my comment section you'll see that i give apparently i give out a lot of misinformation uh like i will slightly get

the posix spec wrong or something dumb like that but yeah actual misinformation is where you go with that yeah yeah yeah like people that are they they know they can invade to get views by by making a video that's blatantly fucking false okay okay? And I was like, I have almost 30 years of opinions built up in me running Linux, so it comes really natural to me by watching you guys do your videos. I get a lot of inspiration from watching you and Esnick and Christian and stuff like that. You bring something up or your comment sections bring something up, and I'm like, why are people not talking about this? That said, I do want to go into more software and tech stuff and stuff like that because I don't want to get one, what's it called?

One track sided or what would you say? Something like that. One sided? Yeah, something like that. I know, they'll work it out. Yeah. And also, my goal was never to be an only Linux YouTube channel. I upload a video day calling that I'm an OS fanboy.

I just love operating systems and I love tech in general. I just like talking about Linux. Because guys like you are really interesting to talk to. Because my friends, it's not a bad thing, but my friends are like fitness idiots, car idiots, people that work on cars, manual labor all the time, and that's the heavy things. So when I'm with them, it's all about talking about how much we've been pressed the last day, you know. And I don't get my nerd on.

Yeah, that's fair. That's why I'm really active on Christian's Discord, and I love talking to guys like you, is that we can talk about these things, we can talk about EMAC, and why Nano is not that bad, you know. And now I'm getting hate again.

I'll give you a bit of a secret i've literally never run nano in my entire life never never run nano how how can i convince you to to run nano i'd be happy to run it i just i've never like i just dived into the deep and the first time i launched up linux i was like just i'm just going to use Vim, work it out. It's fine. You know what? I will ask you for a video then. Nano compared to Vim. If you can make that for me, that would be amazing. Because you're

the perfect guy for it, because like you said, you're using Vim. I'm more of a Nano guy. Well, I've used all kinds of editors, to be honest, but Nano is just the one that's easiest to remember when I'm more of a Nano guy because, well, I've used all kinds of editors to be honest, but Nano is just the one that's easiest to remember when I'm in the command line. And I'm all for convenience. And I don't configure that much configuration files, I just write scripts. So if I need something to be done or configured, I just write a script to

do it and have it in my toolkit. But there's a lot of opinions about EMAC and Vim and then there's Vim Extended, right? Or what is it called? V-I-M-E? Is that the one? That's V-I-M and then there's the Advanced or the Extended version with a lot of plugins to it. I can't

remember what they're calling it. I'm not sure what you're thinking though, because i personally run out neo vim which is like a modernized i think that i think that's i think that's the one i'm thinking of yeah i thought you might have been thinking one of like the vim distributions like space vim or no no no no no like the problem with me is that i've been seeing so many so sound like i'm 60 years old I've been seeing so much going on in Linux that it's it starts to get a little bit blurry but we're talking you know

the last generation software as I call it you know from from 2010 and down and then the newer generation is that it gets messed up in my head a little bit because when I started out in 97 and we had to go into f step to just mount our drives you know like this is where it says on the hardware this is the real and white position and x o's and ones and stuff like that and then go into the command I manually mount it every time and and put it out and usb sticks was not like clock and play as it is today you put it in you figure it out your ls your divide usb devices and i i already got fed up with that like 10 years ago yeah i that like that's i thought like when i joined uh when i first started using linux i thought that it was gonna be like that whereas like i things are just not gonna

work and now i don't even bother checking, like, hardware compatibility. Like, this is the little capture stick thing. Is it going to focus on it? Don't focus. There we go. Look at that. Fancy camera. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That was the capture stick I was using before. Didn't check if it worked on Linux. Plugged it in. It just worked. Right now I've actually switched over to a Elgato cam link because this thing really bottlenecks my camera. elgato cam link because this thing this thing really bottlenecks my camera um bought the cam link it works nothing no hassle just perfect this um my uh my um soundboard no hassle plugged it in perfect most things still don't like they don't

list out linux support but because lin because Linux has improved with hardware compatibility so much, most things just work. There are exceptions obviously, like weird Wi-Fi cards and stuff like that, but it's... I don't know. I don't know where I was going with this, but... No, no, I get what you're saying.

Linux is easy. It's considerably easier than when you do it. Yeah, and I think my generation of Linux users is to take that plane because when we are telling you guys, I don't know how old you are, but I guess you are younger than me. Actually, take a guess.

I wonder how old you think I am. Yeah, but I know you started your channel right out of college, so it's in the early 20s or something, like 24 or 25 5 is there about? Is that like kind of right? Um, 22. 22, yeah okay. That's kind of right, yeah. Yes, I'm 22. I'm 23 in seven days, yeah. Oh, well, happy birthday man. Early happy birthday. Thank you. I was supposed to be born on April Fool's Day, which would be amusing.

Coming in? I said I was supposed to be born on April Fool's Day which would have been amusing I said I was supposed to be born on April Fool's Day which would have been amusing oh yeah that's today I totally forgot that wow anyway we kind of told you guys oh it's so difficult and all of that

and we have forgotten that Lin Linux has actually evolved quite well. Like the kernel in and of itself has evolved quite well and matured quite well. And then, you know, guys come around, and like you said, you just install it on your Dell laptop and everything just works. What is that old fool talking about over there, you know? And that's one of the problems I also have

with some of the things that we are talking in Linux about is that we are overcomplicating everything. I do my best to not complicate when I'm talking in videos. Yeah. Because then we don't get what, like, your idea that you had that, oh, my God, I have to be, like, a system engineer or something like that to install Ubuntu. Yeah, Ubuntu is one of those good examples

of how simple things have got. If you have the ability to click next, you can install Linux. Yeah, I was around when Ubuntu came up, and the first couple of releases was just the standard Debian installer. And we were like, yeah, this is just

another distribution with a rich guy behind it. Two years later, we would all be wanting arts because arts was already starting to become popular back then. And then they did the Ubiquiti installer and everyone was just like, it was like a nerd's wet dream base. Well, a Linux guy's wet dream because now they could show their mom this beautiful installer at the time. Look how easy it is. And it was a massive good thing for Linux, what Ubuntu did back then. People don't like them now, but Ubuntu is the reason why most people are running Linux nowadays. They started on Ubuntu or an Ubuntu-based distribution.

And people tend to forget that. Me included. I forgot that for many years. I hated Ubuntu. I was like an anti-Ubuntu guy until I was like, this guy talked to start on Ubuntu. This guy talked to start on Mint. This guy talked to start on

Solvian or whatever you would call it. And I'm like, they would probably not be here if Ubuntu was not around. So I saw the light, so to speak. I think SystemD sort of has the same treatment as well, where it really did simplify a lot of things. But now I guess people have sort of forgotten what it was like without SystemD.

Because the alternative SystemD are really good now. Like, you can run a perfectly functional, like, OpenRC or S6 system. Yeah, or startup. Unless you're trying to run GNOME, in which case you can't. Because it has an actual dependency on it for some reason. There are some programs that are actually depending on SystemD. And there are some games that are dependent on systemd also. Oh!

And the same with what you call... Steam! Steam, yeah. If you're running Proton, some games will not run if you're not on systemd. I'm a bit of a gamer nerd also. Yeah, I do. I have a gaming channel as well. I have a gaming channel as well. Yeah, and World of Warships, for example, will not run on Linux until you enable SystemD. I don't know if you know about InkDispob. He's one of the OG YouTubers, Linux YouTubers.

He's been doing it for 10 plus years. Oh, wow. And he just has different channel names because he showed some things he shouldn't have been shown by mistake on youtube and you get out yeah youtube barbie that's things and um he was like let's play world of warship and he was running mx ladies and i think they are running uh some sort i can't remember the inter system they're running by default and world of warship didn't want to start then you can set it all to run systemd because they include both because of choice, which is amazing. And the game worked. Absolutely bizarre.

I think it has something to do with the Proton libraries. You know, like the window simulation that Vine is doing. I haven't looked into it. I'm just, you know, brain gassing right now. And that's what I could think of is that there's some system calls that system D provides them that they are using that let's say OpenRC is not, well, OpenRC could give it to them, but the command or the instructions are maybe a little bit different if that makes any sense whatsoever. That's my conclusion I came to without looking into it. I've had many people ask me to make videos about SystemD vs. whatever, and I just gave them the

same blatant statement as I gave you later. Use what you want to use. Use what's best for you because I can't change your mind. I just can't. If you like art, you like art. No matter what I say, you can't change your mind. And I don't want to just throw fuel on the fire. Yeah, I try. A lot of people have sort of gotten to know me

for being a bit of a fence-sitter on a lot of things. Because, like, there are things I take stances on. Like, the RMS thing, I take a very solid stance on. But things like the systemd problem or the browser you run or anything else like that, I'm just like, I don't care. Like, systemd is one of those things I genuinely don't care about because it works. It doesn't get in my way. Does my system take an extra 10 seconds to boot? Probably But I'll just go make some tea or something

Yeah, go look at the neighbor sunbathing outside Or something like that And then your computer is up Or just be a real Linux user and never turn your system off What are you complaining about? Who cares about a boot code? I get it i get it and let's be honest you're not a fence sitter because like i said you it's not your

interest why should you have an opinion on everything do you have the opinion i always say this do you have the opinion of how the the bakery is making that bread like do you go down to the bag and be like yeah you should use that flour and it should be that much? No, you're like, do you go into a chef and tell him how to prepare your meals? No. You're just like, yay, I don't have to cook today, you know. You don't have to have an opinion and everything,

but there are Linux people that think you should sadly enough, and I don't like them. Or people trying to take opinion on things where they don't bother to do any research on it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I have to admit, sometimes...

I've been guilty of in the past. I've done some videos early on where I just didn't understand enough to actually make a video on it. We all have. Let's be honest. We all hear something, see a tweet, see a comment, and we get all fired up, and we forget the context of the tweet or that comment or that article, and we just go off the horns.

And that should be allowed because we get not flamed, but we get corrected, let me put it that way, in the comment section, and I think that's amazing. that way in the comment section and i think that's amazing uh as much as i like to joke about those big head 5000 accused people we have in our comment section i think they know everything and and can put a man on mars faster than elon musk sometimes they are quite good to have you know to keep us in check and and and to be like uh you do know you sound like a fool right now. Let me watch that video again after I did some research. Maybe that big head 5000 IQ was correct this time. You know, like, yeah. One of my Discord, I guess one of my stream chat mods, he runs Plan 9,

which I don't know how he manages to run Plan 9 and get anything done. But he runs Plan 9 and every single thing I say is wrong. And that's part of the reason I made my mod, because I need someone there who's not a yes man. Just tell me everything I'm doing is wrong. I don't care. Yeah, and that's why I love talking to that ethnic guy

I was talking about in his Discord also, is that he's really much a Linux advocate. We have a lot of things we agree on, we have a lot of things we don't agree on. We have some really interesting conversation in DMs and it always ends with, let's agree to disagree or let me find some facts and you know, and stuff like that. By the way, to your friend with Plan 9, they just became open MIT licensed. Mm hmm. Plan 9 just become MIT licensed and you can go download it for free now if you want to use Plan 9 on your systems.

It's out of the license of Nokia. And Ken Thompson was originally a developer developer of plan 9 the same guy that invented unix i just thought that was some interesting fact i read here the other day so i just made a little bit nerdy on it here but yeah plan 9 is an interesting system i don't know if you have looked into it no no i haven't it's kind of like Unix, but the direction they wanted to take it and the direction like the other corporate world took it a little bit and then Linux came around. I think Plan 9 started in the late 80s and Linux came a little bit later on, like in 92, if I'm not mistaken, or 91 or something like that.

But it's an interesting system. But yeah, they just MIT licensed their four releases of Plan 9. So for all you hackers out there, hack on, man. You know, if TempleOS isn't enough hacking for you, you can try something else now. You know what? I actually ran TempleOS when it came out for like two months or something like that just to check it out. I made the mistake of clicking on...

It was a cover of the TempleOS song that I don't remember the name of. The one that everyone knows. I can't remember that song either. Yeah, whatever it's called. Yeah, I clicked on a cover and now my my youtube um recommendations are just full of tarot videos all be said like i'm a big advocate for mental health and i do suffer from a lot of mental health issues myself like like i said i'm on the autistic spectrum and i have depression and social anxieties and all of that jazz he was a really troubled guy that needed a lot of help

he didn't get and i i'm not a social justice warrior and stuff like that, but I kind of feel bad that his legacy is that he's a meme on the internet. Because his mental health issues was basically what ended his life. You know, he had some crazy ideas. He made a fun OSB all memes on. And now when you go onto the internet internet that whole bastard is is being tracked i think the the fact that it's such a such a massive project for a single person to take on is sort of being forgotten in the like talking about the glowies and things like that that's

the legacy he's been left with not the fact he was actually a genius programmer he made his own compiler, programming language, graphical interface language and stuff like that. It was like, there's this, like if you go on his Wikipedia, yes, Wikipedia is not the right place to go, but Steve Jobs and all of his peers at the time, they said that if he didn't have those problems,

mental problems, he could have become the next Steve Wozniak and stuff like that. He had a bright future if he had gotten the right treatment. It's a little bit sad. I mean more than them also. I'm not better than

anyone else. I throw up the odd Temple OS gif, or however you would say it, in discord sometimes i'm not better than anyone else but i it kind of like i can kind of see where he's coming or or understand him me dealing with not the same things but with mental health problems is that it do set you back sometimes like you you you you may want to make a video and then you just get anxieties and think you're going to die because you're going into a spiral and you can't make anything for like a day, you know, and that's not fun, man.

And then if people, luckily enough, he's not around to see it. But if you then go on to the internet and see people memeing, if by mistake, live stream that, you know, and it's not good. But it is what it is, you know is. I joke around with it also. I'm not better than anyone else. I just like to mention this every time it comes up because it is fun, but he was also a brilliant guy. We are getting better in society to deal with those things. Luckily enough, I have to say,

and also on the internet. But it is a fun meme, though. It is a fun meme. Yeah. Like I said, I'm not holier than anyone else. I do meme on it sometimes. And when Linus Tech did the video... Actually, that's sort of what brought that on. I watched the video earlier today.

I hadn't actually seen it yet. It's actually quite good. Linus TechTip gets a lot of flack for doing Linux videos. And I don't get that. In the past, I sort of did, because I didn't really have anyone who was actually

good with Linux in the past, but now that Anthony is there, Anthony is the savior of Linux for Linus Tech Tips. I see it in another way. Maybe not in another way, but I see it like this. He's so massive that just the fact that they are saying Linux

is a plus for us. If you go into this whole movement stuff, converting people and all of that shit. It's actually good for us that a big YouTuber, you know, if you combine all us

Linux YouTubers and our views, we cannot make the same eyes on Linux that he can. I think the biggest channel in the Linux world right now would be probably Chris Titus. Yeah, I reckon. And he's not really a Linux guy.

I see Chris Titus' tech as a Windows and Linux guy. Well, he started as a Windows server guy. But I was also going to say whenever Wendell mentions stuff... Yeah, Wendell. Yeah, Wendell, yeah.

But they don't really do much with level one Linux. That's a very rare upload. Usually it's GPU stuff. And when they do it, it's a lot like corporate stuff. And most people don't want to watch that. They don't want to watch server benchmarks. Yeah. Let's make a 40,000 gigabyte server rack or something like that.

It's so unattainable for a lot of people. So the top three Linus Tech Tips Linux videos. We have the Microsoft should be very afraid noob guide to Linux gaming. That's 2.7 million. That's nonsense.

That's crazy, man. Linux gaming is better than Windows 2.4 and 10 ways Linux is just better 2.6 yeah it's like it's crazy and he may say some crazy things so they get some facts wrong and stuff like that but just out of those seven million if there's 100 000 people install abunza to check it out or whatever distribution they want. I can't drive that number. Chris Tiles Tech cannot drive that number. DistroTube, Vendel, no one

can drive those numbers. Not even if you combine all our strings together. And I think people are missing that a little bit. Yes, he is memeing a little bit on us. They are taking it a little bit light-hearted and they may get not all the facts right

but who who does like come on i think there's a lot of people in the linux world that sort of take themselves a bit too seriously yep i uh what was the video i did a video recently where i basically what was give me one second i work out look at what the video was called, I should remember it but basically at the end of the video oh, it was the video where I did the reaction to Luke Smith reacting to DistroTube, and at the end of the video I basically just said

I made this video, because there's going to be a bunch of people who tell me that this video had no point, it was a waste of time, you shouldn't have made it that's exactly why I made it stop a waste of time, you shouldn't have made it. That's exactly why I made it. Stop taking yourself too seriously. Have a bit of fun every now and again. I have

to watch that video. Can I remember what it's called? Brody reacts to Luke Smith reacting to DistroTube, which is a bit of a mouthful of a name. I could have come up with something better. DT was making the argument that you should replace

slash bin slash sh with fish. We don't know if he was joking. See, that's the problem with him. Like, I generally don't dislike anyone in the Linux community. I may not like their content. I have to say this because, or else people think that you're disliking, but I don't dislike people, the Linux community. I may not like their content. I have to say this because,

or else people think that you're disliking, but I don't dislike people. Just it's their content. I don't like if I'm not watching their content. And that's the problem with him because I was a massive fan of him when he did distro reviews. That was all he did.

He's getting back into them, but. Yeah. But that gets sold really, really fast and I understand why he pranced out but then he started with all of the things that he's doing right now and i i don't know what it is me being autistic or him not knowing understanding people or what it is but you don't know if it's a joke or what the fuck when you're watching some of his videos so you're like is he really serious do he really think this like i just hit your head on the way into the door or something like that i have i have some explanations

um so i i just i know what he's what he does with some of his videos so you know how he did like the the one went to a trump rally or the one where he was it it was, um, if you support FOSS, you support gun rights. And there was a couple of others like that, mainly the very political ones. He does it because what he wants to do is like gauge his, um, community and see like where they stand politically.

He knows those videos are going to get like a massive, massive argument started, but he just wants to sort of gauge what's going to happen. And you forget one thing he does it for the views those videos get in oh they absolutely do yeah yeah and and that's why like you said he's gauging the audience but he also know that if if i use this title and do these thumbnails i will get people emotionally invested because they get emotional response out of it so they will watch my video even though they may not like it they will watch it they will comment they will dislike it and in youtube's eyes

that's like praise the youtube guys you know because that that will just give that video interaction and stuff like that and i and i say to those people because a lot of them comes to me funny enough i have a lot of anti-discord to people in my community for some reason and i'm like yeah that's all i'm like i just don't dislike it oh sorry i don't dislike him i don't know him like i i always say this if we all got together chris tires take you this to true but we gotta be at the bar we will have a great old time it's just content differences that it's not content for me and that's what i try to convert people because they start to attack him personally

and stuff like that. And he must be this and that. And like, not to defend the guy, but we don't know him. And if you've been on YouTube for a while, I've been on YouTube since 2000, actually 2008 with other channels, but I didn't really do much of it.

And you start to pick up really fast when people are gaming the system. And he's trying to game the system. You know, he's trying to get these views. I respect the grind. Hey, chase the bag. Hey, let's be honest. Let's be 100% honest right now.

If we looked at how to run a YouTube channel, he's better than we are. Because he's getting more views. He's getting more money. He's better than we are because he's getting more views, he's getting more money, he's getting more subscribers. He knows how to do a YouTube channel. He does also like to experiment with stuff. There's a lot of videos here that he... I can look at the video and tell you this video is going to just

do shit. I think everyone can. Well, he did one recently. This also had a really bad title as well Creating a D-menuscript For web bookmarks and history That one got 3,500 views Which for his channel was really low

Yeah But then he did other one This one got That one did quite well It was about the RMS Cancel letter He titled it G gnome board members must resign in disgrace which is such a great title i almost watched that one but i don't watch i don't

watch that kind of content because it will get me fired on i know myself too too well that i know that i i will get fired up and then they have won because they are doing it for that reason. How did he make a video on 0AD that has 15,000 views? Why are there 15,000 people interested in 0AD? It's a cool game.

Have you heard of that one? Yeah. I'm getting old, but that was the game we played back in the days, I tell you young people. When we ran Linux in 98, 99, 2001 and so forth, we played Zero AD. We played Trucks Card and Trucks Penguin or Pinkrus

or what they were called, or Super Mario Trucks, or the Mario clone. That was the only game we could play so if we are we are still around i think those 5 000 people are people like me that was like oh yeah i remember those days you know like and and then we go watch that video but yeah he knows what he's doing when we're talking uh running a youtube channel that's he's he's good at that because he gets the numbers he gets the views. So let's be honest here. He does it better than I am doing it.

Like within two years, he was like taking off, man. The same with Chris Titus Tech. Like two years, within two years, those two just boom. Yeah, Chris is someone who a lot of people in my community have an issue with, but I haven've spoken to Chris outside of YouTube. I have spoken to DT a bit outside of YouTube. He's basically like he is on camera. He's not like a fake person.

That is just who he is. He's just good at playing the YouTube game. Exactly, yeah. And all respect for that. If that's what you want out of YouTube, all respect for that. that's what you want out of youtube all respect for that it's just not what i want out of youtube it's just not the way i want to be known as on youtube if you get what i'm saying yeah i have i i haven't spoken with dt i have talked a little bit with him in comment section i've talked a little bit he shows up in everyone's comment

section oh it was on his own channel back when he was starting out and the same with chris titus tech and chris titus tech you could joke around a little bit with you know he seems a little bit like a kid in a candy store to some extent um and like you said a lot of my community i hate calling it a community but yeah i don't know what it is but people that watch my videos have a little bit of a problem with him. And I think the biggest problem is that people don't like people like him getting popular. Because, first of all, he's not taking Linux so much seriously. And he's not the typical Linux nerd.

He's also using Windows and other things. He's a little bit clickbaity. He don't really know that much about it. Let's be honest, he's not that well versed. He's not stupid, but he's not, you know, Lunduk's level in Linux. Let me put it that way, if you can follow my drift. Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of what

people don't get, that why should he be, what is he on 200 and something subscribers now? And why is Lunduk not that high up? Chris Titus is 299. Yeah, it's almost 200,000. And Lunduk, his channel stopped growing because of things he's done.

Some pretty bad takes he's had. But he's actually deleted his YouTube channel at this point. Oh, he has? I stopped following him a long, long, long time ago. Yeah, he's all on board with Odyssey at this point. Oh, really? I follow him there, if I'm not mistaken. Which is not a good position to be in, right?

Oh, it's not a good position. Not when the United States is suing. I liquidated a good portion of my coin. Do you think I should do the same? It's probably not a good... I don't have much. I wouldn't say do all of it, but there's...

Before YouTube strikes this video down, we are not economists. We're not giving investment advice. Don't strike me. I would say it's probably not a bad idea because there are talks of a stock market crash coming as well.

I do dabble with stocks, but on a play level... Usually the crypto market ties very closely to the stock market dips. Yeah, because I like to play stocks, not with money, but it's real life stocks that we are playing with. But it's kind of like an online game. Right, right, right. Yeah. So I'm really into this whole stock thing.

And ever since the pandemic, I've just been waiting for the whole thing to crash down. And cryptocurrency is really bad at the moment, going up and down way more. We are in a massive ball run right now and a ball run can't last forever no and um so yeah if you're talking library in audacity it's a little bit technical also i i got on there you said audacity audacity sorry i got on there audacity yeah i don't know i got on there just for the fact that I had a backup for my YouTube. Because I can be a little bit spicy sometimes. One thing I noticed living in Denmark is that our way of seeing the world and our humor

don't go well with the American way of seeing the world and their humor. So a lot of it gets lost in transaction, so to speak, or translation. It's a little bit easier with guys in Australia. I love guys in Australia because they are almost Danish people with a better accent, basically. That's kind of like how they are. I have to tone down my swearing a bit because there are some words that the Americans don't particularly like that might start with C that get used quite frequently here.

Yeah, exactly. And I'm trying to do my best. My first videos I did, I was a swearing machine. And I actually had to make a video addressing my swearing because I got Americans. Why are you doing that i have to explain to them i come from a field where you're around guys that do manual labor nine hours a day in sweaty hot places that's how we talk to each other and it's really hard when you come from that environment and then go into like an office environment what this is really is and then go into like an office environment, what this really is, and then be like, you can say F words, C words, and all of these,

some M words and stuff like that. It's kind of like learning a whole new language, you know. And when you're 38 or 37 or five years old, it's like, what? My brain not functioning? You know, like you have to like, but I have dialed it back a little bit and I don't like swearing that much in general anyway.

But sometimes when I get past it and I get into a rant mode, it just comes out of me. And we all can see that, I think, in how we are. I just don't censor myself because then I start to feel like I'm not honest with you guys that watch my videos and stuff like that so they have to take a swear word once in a while in my in my mind for my content it doesn't really add anything to it like i i don't like in the podcast i don't care in the live streams i don't

care but when it's just like hey i'm talking about some like a terminal or something i don't think swearing that really adds anything to the video. No. I'm 100% honest with you. That's why I'm doing a little bit of a Windows series where I compare Windows and Linux, how Windows is handling things. It's not like who's better. It's just like this is how I think the latest one was updated.

This is how Windows updates. This is what's good with Windows updates that you can do. This is what's great with Linux updates, you know. Fancy light again, I'm jealous. And this is how Arsenal wants to handle updates. The blue is way too bright, actually. It's like, where are you repairing the green now? I kind of like it like that, though.

Maybe. I kind of like it. I'll work something. Anyway, yes. Yeah, I need to get better lights myself, maybe. I kind of like it. I work something. Anyway, yes. Yeah, I need to get better lights myself, man. That's my biggest problem. What you need to do is get yourself into a cold war with Christian.

Just start racing with Christian to improve your content. That's why I have this new camera. That's why I have the new light. Because he keeps one-upping me. See, here's the thing. I've talked with Christian about this a lot So I have the new light because he keeps one-upping me. See, here's the thing.

I've talked with Christian about this a lot off-air, what you would call it, in DMs. And I'm a little bit worried that he's gone into a spiral of, let's just make it look better. And I'm of this philosophy. You can have the best looking content on youtube you can have the best tutorial on a on a subject but if you're not engaging if you're not you know worth listening like if people cannot listen to you you're too monochrome or you're not joking around a little bit or feel like they can relate to you it doesn't matter yeah i've talked to him about um

video editing that's one thing where he spends a lot of time on in especially places where it doesn't really add anything to it we will see my friend ethnic you know uh a guy in his 50s no fucking thumbnails or anything no thought into tag or anything. He still have five thousand subscribers. He still gets one through two or three hundred views. Could he get more with better lighting, better webcam and thumbnails? Of course he could. What what those kind of things do is they they they boost you up to where you normally would plateau.

So instead of taking your two years to reach your maximum, take your one year. But you will still plateau. So instead of it taking you two years to reach your max, it will take you one year. But you will still plateau if you're not an engaging guy, interesting guy or girl, or if your content is not that interesting and stuff like that. And that's why I get a little bit of money from my other YouTube channels, and I use that for buying webcams and lights and stuff like that. So I don't get it to spend the same money that he does

and put the same effort into that area because I found out that if I do that, that's where my mind is. Every time I'm making a video, I'm like, oh, how's the light? And then I forget to be myself and joke around a little bit and stuff like that. And then people don't watch it.

They like guys like you, normal guys. Well, I have flexed six lights in here. Ignoring the six lights. That's a little bit of a flex, but that's okay. You're allowed that. Okay, to be fair, the stands they're on, I got on eBay for $10. Yeah. Also, you have a much much a much nicer

um mic arm than i do this mic arm the one that squeaks a lot um yeah this is ten dollars as well i this is funny because i have a ten dollar mic that that this cable is connected to because i forgot to buy a cable you know a lxr cable yeah but i got that this was my last payment from my gaming channel paid this like the last time i got it like before christmas that i get like 100 bucks two times a year something like that and i just it's because this mic i have right now is too heavy ah it's the only reason i bought it is the point because this is like heavy that's Is the PodMic that heavy? I thought it was a pretty light mic. It's almost... I think it's over one kilogram. Okay.

It's almost as heavy as the Shure 9... What is it called? The SM7B? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost as heavy as that one. Okay. There's a lot of power packed into this little... Oh, yeah.

The PodMic is a really good mic for its price. Yeah. My problem is that I'm using a cheap ass beringer mixer so so i i want a yamaha how do you pronounce that yeah yeah they have like these uh they're not crazy expensive but the sound quality that they give you for that amount of price is like all all the the big youtububes I follow have one of those. I'm gonna show you something. Here we go. Yay.

Oh, okay. I just realized my battery's plugged in. This is the soundboard I'm using. That's the one I want, man. Ah, yes. I love my Yamaha. It's great. I know YouTubers that have almost millions of subscribers and live streamers that get thousands of viewers. They are using

that exact mixer. And you just caught... Oh, they're back again. I pressed the menu button. I'm just using HDMI out from the camera. So, yeah. A lot of I pressed the menu button. I'm just using HDMI out from the camera. So yeah, a lot of tech YouTubers actually really prefer that mixer there.

They really like that mixer. That's a very bad idea. That's a little bit nice that people can... It's like you're hogging the world, you know, like you're giving all the viewers a hug or something like that. You're like, there we go. the world you know like you were giving all the viewers a hug or something like that that may be my next investment i first i want yeah first i want lights yes i want some better lights lights are cheap and add a lot um yeah the lights i have now are like led lights i bought for

like i don't know do not five bucks or something like that. Do not knock the LED lights. Before I was using this, I went to this local hardware store here called Bunnings. I had lamps that I bought for $5 and that was what I was using to light my backdrop. Yeah. I think that's what I paid for these. I can actually see one of my lights is out of whack. But that's what I paid for these. I can actually see one of my lights is out of whack, but that's what I could afford. I don't have a full-time job, so I have to pay, you know,

I have to buy what I can afford. And I think it's a really, really good message to send to people that want to get into YouTube is that you don't have to overspend. It's so easy to spend too much money getting into YouTube. And again, if your content is not, that's what people should focus on i i see all of these this is how you get into youtube and you need this camera and this mic and yes you need good audio quality your webcam you don't need a webcam really if you if your mic they can understand you that's top dollar the webcam problem this this is a problem that i i may do a video on to be honest because i still see many

people i've made the same mistake as well buying webcams do don't buy a webcam because your phone will look better than every single webcam on the market you can get a five dollar mount for it and there's an app that you can use to turn your phone into a webcam it will look better than anything you're gonna buy true true true true i i have a c920 you know the one everyone buys yeah i have c920 as well it's sitting in the drawer over there yeah because i don't need and it's i i will defend webcams a little bit here then i do agree with what you were saying that nowadays mobile phones is amazing if you can figure that out it's just first of, webcams is plug and play. That's what more people can figure out,

you know? And it's, it's kind of like, I can still use my phone, you know, while I'm talking to you. That's the one problem you do have with it. Yeah.

So if my mom is calling to yell at me, I can just throw the phone out and say, I'm not here. And another thing also like webcams. And now this is going to be fun is that you can do this. I have like a privacy thing, a little box on it I just can put down. There's a lot of advantages with a webcam. And the C920, if you get good lighting, a lot of the B-rolls you see on tech YouTubers,

it's done with a C920 under good lighting. Because it's cheap for what it is, and lights are cheap. You pay a lot of money for your mobile phone, and that not being accessible to you, I think, is a negative for me because when I'm doing videos, I actually use my phone quite a lot.

But if you have two phones, like I have a spare, what is it called? iPhone 6 or something like that. Yeah, yeah. That could be turned into a webcam, you know, like a thing here. If you don't just chuck your old phone out, you probably have one laying around. Yeah, exactly.

And if you want to get into YouTube, that's a really great way to do it. You don't have to buy a webcam if you don't have one. Plug your phone in. My other argument, rather than a webcam is go on ebay get yourself like a second hand like gopro hero 4 they're a bit fiddly uh you have to modify some settings to get them working with hdmi out but if you also be careful because it is a action camera and a lot of them have broken hdmi out ports because they get because of that they get chucked around a lot they're gonna have parts broken but if you can find one that works or

like it it will look better than a c920 i've seen them side by side there is oh yeah a light and day difference um no question about it no question about like 50 or 60 dollars so it's but i i just i just like i get the convenience of the c920 that that's what i'm getting at it's it's i i talked to a lot of live streamers and have helped a lot of live live streamers over my the last 10 years actually and youtube was because i really like that actually more than making my own content i like helping other people out with their content and don't do what i do but do as i say and i know that's a bad practice but i'm a minimal effort kind of guy and if if i'm talking to a young girl that wants to get into makeup or a guy that wants to live stream a game i'm just like do what you can afford and and don't pay more than you're

willing to lose on let's say a night out with the guys it should be you should't pay more than you're willing to lose on let's say a night out with the guys it should be you should not pay more than then you're like if this don't work out you're sitting and crying because oh my god i couldn't get this i'm not crying literally but you you are a little bit like oh my god this didn't pan out and i now i don't have money for x y and z and yes it may be crap equipment you can get, but here's the thing. If you're funny, if you're engaging, if you make content people want,

you can look like me and still get views. You can have a bad accent, you can mispronounce words, you can fuck up sometimes, and you can look like you're never leaving your house. You will still get views if people like listening to you and like the content that you make. You don't have to look like Brad Pitt and have this

massive production that, you know, Lions Tech Tip have and stuff like that. Just go for it because YouTube is amazing. There's a lot of big head 5000 IQ people that will disagree with everything, tell you that you're wrong, that they are better than you are,

but there's just as many great people that you can talk to have fun and hey youtube helped me out of a depression man like i was really really massively depressed and i didn't associate with anyone so it's like i have to have again this amazing friend she lives in arizona by the way with her husband but anyway she was like why don't't you livestream so you can talk to people? I livestreamed. Like, why don't you put a webcam on? So, you know, to kind of get me to, you know, associate with people a little bit more, I started to put a webcam on.

And then, why don't you do this Linux thing you want? I did that, you know, got these small pushes there. And that helped me to be able to talk to people nowadays. And back then I had a webcam for 30 bucks or something. It cost me nothing, but it was enough that they could see that there's a human behind it. And it was really, what you call it, boundary breaking for me because I was like, nobody see me.

And my accent and all of that, it was like, people don't care. Like, they really don't care. So if one of you guys is out there, or girls for that matter, I think especially girls, we need more girls in tech industry. I have a 2.8% female audience. So there are some women out. Questionable how many of them actually are women. I don't...

0.5%. I can confirm there is at least one. There is one female in my Discord. The others have been scared away. How do you see that now? Because I think I'm on 0.5% or something like that. If you go into your audience... It's the audience.

Yeah, audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's 100% based. That's the last 28 days. How do I see that must be advanced, right? Can I fucking address something? Yeah. Firstly,

I'm not in the fucking UK for the last goddamn time. Also, I'm not Amish. Why do people keep thinking I'm from the UK and Amish? Stop. I don't know how you get this. I just looked at my most recent comment.

Like, I've had this comment so many fucking times. Okay, sorry. I have 2.6% views from girls. Ah, lovely. They like the neck band. But, yeah. But, yeah, they like everything, man. But yeah, now you're saying that about Armis.

I think the first thumbnail I saw with you was that I was like, is this an Armis people doing tech videos? I'm not joking. I think it was the beard. And I was like, this is be... This is what I thought. That could be a fucking interesting thing. If you were like... That's just from a content kind of view.

If you were like a converted Amish person that was now a Linux user, holding a little bit onto your roots as non-technology. But if I have to use technology, it has to be open. It has to be Libre has to be liquid i was like this is a really great angle man that's a really great angle but i never thought that you were um

from the uk though yeah no because you actually probably know what a uk person sounds like yeah i was more like no i was actually like more i first i thought you were from like the south of america like louisiana down there somewhere but then i started to pick up some of the australian quirks that you have you guys have when you talk which is i love the australian accent by the way and i was like yeah he must be australian but i was not sure until i checked your channel and i think it says that you're from Australia. Yes, I am. I am from South Australia.

Yeah, it says it right here. Yeah. Yeah, I've got... I've just looked through... I searched for Amish in my comment section. I've got... Apparently, I've got six comments about that. Yeah, the people...

Yeah, every time I ask about it, they're like, it's the beard. Yeah, yeah. That was the first thing, the beard, yeah. But now that I'm thinking about it, it's a normal beard. Look at mine. I look like someone that I don't have that are confused about how it should look like.

Addressing the thing from before about how people don't care how you look, if you are a neckbeard, please start making Linux videos because we need more neckbeards. People are, like, way too clean-s clean shaven now i don't like it they're like that this is two weeks old that's why i don't shave for this podcast the problem would be is that i need to lose some weight let's let's be honest here i gained quite a lot uh over the pandemic and stuff like that and if i shave it off yeah if i if i shave it off, if I shave it off, I look like a teenager.

I look like an overweight teenager talking about Linux. I think you'd pull off like a Peter Griffin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that could be funny. I just need to nail down his way of talking. But the problem is that, and this sounds a little bit vain and weird, but if you have a beard, it gives you a little bit more authority when you talk.

If you go and read psychological studies and stuff like that, people tend to listen more. And no matter how ugly it is, and if it's a neck beard, I don't like the word neck beard, by the way, but it's fun. I make joke about it a lot myself. It's just something I'm like, I think we all were that. The same with the hashtag, I use arts, by the way. I'm like i think we all were that the same with the hashtag i use i use arts by the way i'm like yeah that was fun five years ago you know like clap yourself on the back for being an old memer you know that that's good yeah i occasionally get the comments like oh is your neck beers like yep thank you along with the hundred other people who've sent

me that comment yeah i take it i take this as a fucking um pride that a guy like me that not specifically good looking i would not say i'm that ugly but i'm not good looking you know can get people to actually listen to my videos and watch my my videos i had one comment i was quite laughing he was like yeah I had you on my big screen TV. But then my wife came in and she turned it off. And I'm like, yes. I have, like, if someone's going to insult me,

I appreciate, like, the good insults. Like, when it's not like, ha-ha, neckbeard, ha-ha, whatever. When it's like, actually they put some level of thought into it and it's actually a creative joke. I've actually pinned a couple of those because i'm just like that that's actually a good one i like that oh now you're talking about pin comments a good experiment you can do with those i i've been told not to experiment with comments on viewers but if you pin a positive

comment your comment section will inherently become more positive. If you pin a negative comment, they will become more negative. It's actually really, really interesting that people do notice the pin comments. They don't read the description. I can't remember how many times I'm explaining something like, look down at description, there's the whatever is the description. Can you please do this for me? Like, have you watched the video? Hey, where are your.files? Have you looked at my description at my GitHub repo? Those people, man. They are almost worse than the big head 5,000 IQ people.

I did some tutorials on how to, the basic rudimentary intro to how to make your own Linux distro used in Ubuntu and art. To this day, one of them is over a year old. I have people commenting and emailing me, hey, I like your video. Can you make me a re-spin?

Or can you show me step-by-step how I can make a distribution I can sell? And basically, that's the gist of it. I'm like, of course, I have 40 hours to make just your distribution. Of course, I have 40 hours to make just your distribution. Of course, I have that amount of time. It's like, that's what I'm here for, to do all of the work for you. I've had a couple of those as well, but someone actually wanted to make it worth my while.

And they were like, hey, do you do consulting? I would like you to help me set up your.files. i didn't do it because i'm not going to charge someone to do something i put out for free um but i i considered it let's be honest first of all i you should have done it like it yeah and second of all that's the way of going about it. Let's be honest. Because like you said, we probably will not charge you anything. Maybe if it was in real life, I'm like, give me a beer or something like that. Then you get what I'm saying here. We probably will not charge anything for it. But the way that people come about asking is so demanding.

And it's like, I want this and I need that. And you should do this for me and they're not thinking about that there's like five or ten other people saying the exact same thing plus you have a job we have families we are doing things other than just sitting here and being your little slave so to speak and it really frustrates me to some extent but that's why i have that one day off social media kind of thing so i i typically notice when someone's kind of new to the like to my videos because i feel like i've sort of cultivated this fairly actually fairly friendly i guess community whatever you want to call it um but yeah when when someone's new they'll it's very clear because they'll be like oh

hey uh can you do this thing for me can you do this thing for me where are your dot files things like that it's just like no yeah no i i have i have one video but i want to make more small videos where i actually address those kind of things. So if they ask that, I just think that the video. Yeah. Yeah. I've considered the same thing as well. And then make it the unlisted or private. I actually are debating on doing more of those for like the most common questions. Me, it's always like, where are you from? Hey, are you Danish?

That's all the Danish people. Hey, you from Denmark? Yeah. Congratulations, Sherlock Holmes. You know, go on my about page. But I think it's it's just what it is. You know congratulations, Sherlock Holmes. Go on my About page. But I think it's just what it is. It's YouTube. So I kind of want to ask you something also. What made you get into Linux other than just your interest for Linux? Was it just like a job or colleagues or friends? You said you watched Brian Dund duke but was there a seed before him like was

it something you had on your radar from your university or well i was doing um i was doing software engineering at university and i dabbed like a little bit i touched it with like an ubuntu vm for like one class or something but i didn't actually run it outside of the class um i think it was when we started looking at things like uh like git and when that sort of stuff like that was being introduced which was way later than it should have been i think second year we'd looked at git which is okay managing group projects without git wasn't fun that's what i'll say um yeah but once we started looking at these sort of like command line applications um we were always doing them in a linux environment and obviously being in like a programming sort of mindset at some point you're bound to try out

linux and i wanted to just sort of see what it was like and then seeing what was actually capable from people like Luke and DT sort of pushed me in that direction. And I actually started documenting my experience on Linux from the day I installed Linux. There is a video on my channel talking about how I failed to install Arch Linux. It's a bad video.

Don't watch it. No, I actually think that was what, I think that was the one I saw or the second or third one you made because that was my introduction to was one of those first videos there. I feel bad for you. No, no, it was,

I find this interesting. So for me, it was interesting to see how you went into it. I was just confused that you chose Arch, but I get your mindset because i'm a little bit like i guess you are also you go for the hard option yeah the the arch thing was i don't i don't know i think that i don't know what it was maybe it was i just wanted to build something from the ground up that that's probably the best explanation for it i was like okay let's just

if i'm going to build something from the ground up there's not much lower i can go without going like gen 2 or void or linux from scratch yeah and there was no way i was going to do linux from scratch in my first project and i i saw that all these tutorial videos installing arch and they're like an hour long and like it's an hour that's not too difficult um got it installed got i3 installed and sort of just started playing around from there and that that that newbie states i i also i hate the the the word normies by the way but anyway that that the that new newbie state state or that's beginner states i love that i love when you have something new in front of you

and everything you do is new to you. You can explore. When I'm hearing guys like you telling that, it's kind of rekindling my first Linux install. It's actually a fun story because I think I was 13 or 12 years old. I helped a guy make computers. He was selling old computers that he was selling to his friends for word processing in the 90s and stuff like that. And I met him because he was walking dogs when I was walking dogs.

And he was like my age now. And I was like, I said, 12 or 15. So we'd start talking and he was like, what do you do? I do this computer thing here. And he was like, yeah, I have some hardware problems. I've always been good with hardware. So I helped him out. And then one day I went out of his house.

He gave me like a Red Hat 4.2 or something like that. You know, he got those O'Reilly books with it or something like that. I can't remember if it was an O'Reilly book. And I got home and I got, hey, we have spring break. And I put in my computer, please designate a root drive. And I said there, root. Oh, let me check the dictionary.

Part of a tree. Okay. So I sat there for a day and just like, root, what the fuck is this? Do I have to plant a tree to get the root system going? Like that was how I thought you know and yes the installer said use forward slash but i did my praying you know 13 years old and you know so i let's put in a forward slash and press next oh it worked swap and it worked and then i got a gnome think it was a GNOME 1 desktop or something,

like a GNOME 2. And I was just like, I loved it. I can't explain it. There was so much new stuff to learn, you know. And when I found out, I could actually look at the source code. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know, you know, why that was important. But it was just amazing.

I could actually see how they made the thing that I'm using. And then I went over using OS 2 and BOS for a while. But it was really, really eye-opening. And I can't imagine it, but sometimes I just can't imagine that I'm still using Linux to this day. Like I said, it's like almost 22 two or three years ago i i had my first installed and i still have i have always always had a linux machine either on all my laptop has always been linux from day one i do games so i do have windows installed and i do work a lot in Windows and use Linux on VMs. Yeah. Which is a really, really interesting combination if you ask my friends,

online friends. But I do that quite a lot. But all my laptops, ever since 2000, when I got my first laptop, I don't have that now, but they've all raised on Linux. Yeah. No question about it. I was like, my main PC, because of gaming and other, you know, compatibility problems and stuff like that. That state there. I don't mind that I'm losing some hardware stuff on my laptop. So the Wi-Fi may not work. I don't care because I didn't

use it, you know, on a college or anything like that. i always have been running linux and it's actually really crazy to think about that it's been that long and also how much has happened like ubuntu was a big milestone youtube was a massive milestone for linux uh if you some guys you should look up it's like sneak sneaky linux uh english bob you know he's been around for 10 plus years uh total os today i think it was you know prime london's old podcast i don't know if you ever watched that one he did on or what was it called he had a podcast kind of like this when he had a co-host um they're still around right uh that that organ the co-host is still around yeah yeah um they're doing that, right? The co-host is still around.

Yeah, yeah. They're doing their... What is it called? If I think of... You think of Matt Hartley? Yeah, I think... I don't know. They did a podcast.

A weekly podcast, like with video. And it was Jupiter. Jupiter podcasting or something like that. Jupiter, something. And they had someiter jupiter podcasting or something like that jupiter something uh and uh they had some falling out i think or something but they they split up but it was really fun to think about that all of that but back in the day that this was before 2010

that was done on a mac with mac always but they didn't tell anyone because they were afraid of the latest guys to figure it out. And it was those guys, you know, when they started on YouTube, they kind of paved the way for us, you know, that it was acceptable to be a nerd and talk about a really nice operating system on YouTube. And seeing that whole thing fold out was, it amazing, if you ask me. I really think that I'm lucky to some extent that I have that history with Linux and Linux YouTubers that a lot of people don't have. And it gives me a little bit of an advantage because you see what people rise and fall quite a lot. So you kind of just stick to what you know

basically and what is proven and you're racing quite well i don't you've been on for like a couple of years also right um two years i think yeah something let's see when your video your first video is one year old welcome to to my channel. Oh my God, that's a young looking guy. That's a long, young looking guy you have right there. Don't remind me that exists. I'm an awful driver. I broke my hubcap. How I got into programming. Oh, you did a macOS in a virtual machine. I did. It was a very bad video. One year ago, you did something about browser independent search with Arch Linux.

Yeah, I still use that script. It's a really useful script. I have to look at that. So let's say you've been on for a year right? I think it'll be two years in July let's say two years then and you have 15,000k that's

quite good when you think about it like and you have what do you have on library and the other sites there? Library is 21k that's right and the podcast is 16k on library oh do you are you on bit shoot uh yes but i don't know what's going on bit shoot right now i haven't been able to upload anything i killed all i i got rid of all my cookies got rid of everything still can't upload

i don't know what the deal is with that that website yeah it's crazy it's crazy um yeah that's a whole very very young looking birdie yeah so so you're doing quite well when you think about it and that's the thing if you compare you should never compare that's also something i hate when you compare channels with each other because the way you do things and your trajectory is not the same with me but you're always shooting me quite well you know but if you look at chris titus tech he was like already at massive numbers right now but those guys that that rise that that fast more than likely will not last more than two to five years i don't know. I think Chris still has a day job, maybe? I don't know if he does it full-time.

No, I think before last year, I think he actually went full-blown. It wasn't last year he went full-blown. It was around the same time as DistroTube. Ah, okay. They did it kind of within

a two-month time span or something like that. And it's bold with that subscription counter, those numbers, to be honest. He does some consulting part-time, I think, also. 100K isn't too crazy. I can tell you how much DT makes. I don't know exact numbers, but I can go by my numbers

he would be on about just from YouTube about 1200 a month maybe 1400 a month it's not much he does have his Patreon as well. Plus your payout per thousand views is not the same as mine. It all depends on your CPM and stuff like that.

Because what content you are making depends on what ads they can put on front of it. How advertiser-friendly you are can determine what quality ads you get. If you want to talk about terms I hate, advertiser-friendly you are can determine what quality ads you get. If you want to talk about terms I hate, advertiser-friendly. If Pornhub can have ads, everything on YouTube is advertiser-friendly. Yeah, and here's the thing. Was it before Christmas,

I got ads on tech channels for going on to a fucking anime site where you could have sex with your stepmom. I'm not joking. And those ads ran on tech channels kid channels and stuff like that however youtube is lacking up on on the advertiser friendly kind of thing because they're apparently not making enough money i wonder why i wonder why yeah but yeah you have to look at your CPM. But again, you should not go into YouTube to make money because then you get those rise and falls. I'm not saying DistroTube or ChrisTizeTech is falling,

but if it becomes apparent that you're looking for the queen or what you would call it, you kind of lose people to some extent. And advertisement, which we are forced upon nowadays, and even if you are not monetizing your channel, people will still see ads in front of your channel. So advertise your channel if you can go into a YouTube partner, but do it ethically.

I have a video that I actually think is quite reasonable on how to do ads right. Like here in Denmark, we get ads every 15 minutes, so that's kind of what i'm trying to go by that if i have a 20 minutes video you get an ad break you don't get anyone else but you get two ads in a 20 minute video if it's a 30 minute video you still get two ads and then every 15 minutes you get an ad you know kind of around that that time but i've seen youtube was where 30 minutes 30 seconds in at one minute later at one minute later at one minute later at and you're just like yeah i don't touch um where the ads get generated so if i do have a bunch of ads in them that's that's how

youtube just wants to do it yeah that's a big problem because if you're using the automatic ad placement with youtube they bombard your viewers with ads. Because they look at how long do your viewers watch the video. So let's say most of your viewers drop off after three minutes. They jam as many ads as they can in on those three minutes to get their avenue up and your avenue up. But that also means that people will not watch your videos. The other problem is being in the tech world, we have a lot of viewers who are very big fans of Adblock.

So YouTube tries to compensate with the people who don't run Adblock. And I made a video where I got yelled at where I was saying that Adblock is actually hurting you. And people didn't get that video. And that's exactly what I was talking about here. The reason why you're getting so many ads that YouTube automatically plays in your videos is because people are ad blocking.

So they're not making enough money, so they're forcing more ads on you. And also people or YouTubers have, like you were talking about, you had to do a promo for Linode or something like that. We have to do stuff like that to buy these kind of things. You want better quality. You want us to step up the game.

Well, that costs money, people. When it comes to working with companies, there's a reason I work with Linode and not... I've had some other companies that have come to me. I work with Linode because I like Linode. I use their product anyway. But I've had some like chinese like steam key resellers come to me and some other great great shadowland i know i have told myself if if raid

comes to me i will accept raid's money back i don't care i will shill i i that's the one thing i will shill just because i think it will be funny um they pay really well as far as i know actually like we are talking at this stage i think raid doesn't care because i've seen some people making fun of raid in their ad spot for raid i'm following i'm following some wow youtubers and one of them is doing these kind of uh-video advertisement, but he's integrated into the video. So if he's doing cinematic, so that advertisement is part of the cinematic. So he's joking around.

Yeah. Sorry. I was saying that when I do my ad spots for the node, I put them at the end of the video. After all the content's already done. If you've watched eight, ten minutes already,

and you want to watch an ad, that's cool. Fine. Yeah. I've, I, I, I,

I've not thought about because I didn't even expect to get a thousand subscribers, to be honest. Like my content is definitely not for everyone, even though I want to plan out to be more, you know, get a broader audience to watch my stuff, you know,

but it's it's it's a crazy thing this whole youtube and a lot of people don't seem to get it i think that we spend a lot of time editing we spend a lot of time setting things up researching subjects and stuff like that and they're getting all that for. And if you have to watch a 10 second ad, it's not fun, but come on, be a little bit generous towards you. I say this,

I don't care if you add plug, but don't start to demand stuff off me. If you're at blocking, don't demand stuff off me. Or you can donate if you don't have any dough, but I think if you donate a dollar, that'll pay for about 500 video views. Yeah. If one guy donate a dollar, he can AdBlock for two years or something like that

without hurting the channel. So if your content creator have a PayPal or Patreon or stuff like that, AdBlock and give them, you know, ask them to make like, I think the lowest tier on Patreon is $1 or something. Yeah, I think I have a dollar tier right now. Yeah, just subscribe to that and then ad block because it helps you out and everyone else out

that are making good videos more than people think it is. And it gives the content creator the opportunity to buy stuff they normally wouldn't buy that makes the more interesting videos you're not like oh buy a what a server rack or something i don't know but you know anything that you know a small little gadget that yeah oh this one linux code in it or something like that you know that you normally would not see so it it is free but youtube is not really free when you think about it like no i get what you're saying um yeah you you have to pay somehow you know i i'm sort of in the same boat with adblock like i've run adblock

but um the creators i do enjoy like i might throw a couple of dollars their way every so often or the the creators i that um are on odyssey i like to watch their content there as well i i uh i don't want adblock i used to but i don't and if i install it it's abused to look at it and i see it that it has adblock and i know i'm going on youtube i just whitelist youtube i i have been on a website, and there are some YouTube websites with tutorials on. There are videos running two or three different places, and you get, hey, get a bigger

EP, and here's some pills to take because you can't sleep, and pluck the motherfucking shit out of that. Pluck those websites, okay? Pluck them. Yeah, I whitelist YouTube. I do whitelist a couple of websites here and there. Ones that don't have a donate button and I use very frequently. But I think ad blocking is a good idea because if you do go to sketchy websites,

because there are very sketchy ads you get out there. I say ad block all you can, but please whitelist YouTube. I don't care about the money but there's some people that are on the verge of can make this actually a reality and live off it and give you even better content so why not pay with like 30 seconds of ads in the beginning but the more you do ad block the more you'll see embedded ads that like that's what's gonna happen yeah exactly yeah so you'll watch a 30 minute video and 50 of them will be let's look at linode and great shadow legends and blockbuster whatever it is you know i don't know blockbuster man i think he got scammed

there yeah oh they still have one physical uh oh do they, that's the original one. The freaking motor store. Oh, wow. That's still open. Yeah. I saw that in a podcast. I'm in this really great period where I sort of remember when Blockbuster was a really big thing, and then it just vanished. I think it was around... I would have still probably been in primary school,

I reckon, when it happened. It's some years ago, yeah. But yeah, I would go every couple of weeks. We would go down there, we'd rent a movie. Or in my case, I'd rent a game for a couple of days. Oh, yeah, game renting, yeah. I'd grab some random PS2 game that looked cool. It's like, oh cool oh yeah this is

awesome turned out wasn't awesome but hey we'll give it back in a couple of days I'll play I don't like the game at all but I have it here for three days I will play it as much as possible for these three days yeah I think some here in the town I lived in at some point you could actually rent a gaming system also Wow yeah yeah yeah but that didn't last long but you could actually rent a gaming system also. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that didn't last long,

but you could actually rent like a, I think PlayStation one or two and equipment Xbox at that point. But it was actually really, really interesting that you can do that. You can't do that anymore, sadly enough. But yeah. Have you,

have you ever been into like running Linuxux on on like consoles and stuff like that uh i haven't done it myself i've looked like at people who've done it because back in the 90s like the nintendo cube was a really big linux machine like people love to run linux on the nintendo cube and made it into like uh what what we would call a Plex server today, but that was their media center. And then they used the PlayStation 3 for the same reason. I do know about that one, yeah. Yeah.

And I think that was the last generations where you actually could do that. But the Nintendo GameCube, yeah. Huh. Well, the Xbox One is just running windows 10 so yeah yeah with direct x on it yeah and then the what is it one series x i don't know what they're calling it um that's also running windows 10 everything's just in a vm a VM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a really interesting... Oh, I can't remember him now. He made a video

about consoles and how they run operating systems that Microsoft actually went over to virtualizing a lot of their stuff and the same with the Sony PlayStations. It's actually a computer with a lot of VMs in them,

which is really, really interesting because that's kind of what we are doing right now when we are reviewing distributions. We are running Linux and then VMing everything. When I got into Linux and YouTube was around, they had to install it on physical hardware. That was the only option we had because our computers were not that powerful.

So they had a spare crappy laptop they installed whatever on and then they had a webcam pointing at it or something like that because capture cards on the Linux, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was so fun and nowadays we're like, yeah, let's compare

Ubuntu and Arch and then you have five VMs running and showing it on a video it's like and you capture everything with obs in software not even dedicated hardware no it's crazy to think about just just think 10 years back you know 2011 you could still virtualize but what we do like what we're doing right now i don't think that was a thing back then without you had to pay big money for it. You probably could do video conference calls, but you had to really pay out of the basu for it. It's crazy, man.

It's really, really crazy. All this Linux thing and technology. I'm starting to feel old now. This is not good. I'm like, oh, man. If I only was 20 again. I kind of wish I took an IT career, to be honest. But here's what

my counselor said, and this is why you should never listen to counselors. You know this programming and computer stuff? Yeah, that's just a fad. It will go over in five years. Yeah, I'm sure. That was what I've been told by more than one counselor here in denmark they were like yeah there's no future becoming a program or it specialist

or anything like that and it was like in 99 or something like that so go to go become a mechanic so i became a mechanic and then when i was educated all my friends that went on it school they just got double the salary i got i was like that hey there's my bitcoin is not gonna go anywhere oh my god yeah oh i don't know how many people are talked of buying bitcoins here's the thing if you don't mind gambling you can earn a massive amount of money on bitcoin i have, I have a lot. But it is gambling. Oh, yeah, no. It is gambling. But what I was getting at there was like back in like the early 2000s,

you could say like, oh, Bitcoin's not going to go anywhere. It's a couple of dollars. Now it's like $66,000 Australian or something dumb. My brother, he gave a PC to someone he was in uni with. And he was in uni with. And he was like, hey, I can give you Bitcoins. And the computer cost him, I think it was like 100 bucks or something like that, you know, 100 US dollars.

Because they had some spare parts they sourced out and stuff like that. And then like last year, he got, I don't know how, but he got an email. He was looking at an old email address he had since the days. And they were like, you do know that you have some Bitcoins laying around, the wallet he was using. And he got like, I have to convert in my head, but I think it was like $500 or something like that. It was quite a lot of money. It was the famous video of the dude who bought a pizza with 10,000 Bitcoin.

Yeah, and the dude that threw out his wallet with what was it, like 1,000 Bitcoins or something like that or something crazy like that.

And he was like, yeah, I have it backed up. And then he threw out his computer or it was not backed up. So there are,

I don't know if it was 1,000 Bitcoins but 100 Bitcoins or something like that. But there is right now a hard disk on some landfill that's worth more than machines that are going over it basically, you know, like it's just like great.

But how is your view about this library thing? You're quite active on, you know. I am, yes. Yeah, yeah. What is it called? SEC? Yes, SEC. Yeah. yeah yeah um what's it what is it called sec yes that is yeah what what what are your take on that um i don't know enough about so i'll there's a lot of people who've in the linux world who've been doing videos on this i decided not to because i don't know enough about u.s law to make a decent video on it um what i know basically is the sec is trying to effectively define what

what how a cryptocurrency can be used because right now basically um there's a lot of there's a lot of basically guesswork with how crypto's working right now. The law's very far behind. And the library token... There's an argument to be made that it's not actually... That it's actually

a utility token, so it's a token that is to be used to function within the network and you do some sort of service uh on the platform so you know uh boosting up content things like that getting videos on the blockchain but then there's the other argument where it's still tied to sort of like the growth of the platform which would make it a security as defined by the sec i don't know how this is going to play out um okay there's a very similar case happening with ripple as well um the sec

likes to go after a lot of these crypto tokens um that are being used in this very gray area um it's mostly because they can't regulate it. I think that's the biggest stick up their butt, to be honest. Yeah, I don't really want to take any hard position on this because I genuinely don't know what's going to happen. I'm just going to say, don't be left holding the bag at the end.

Yeah, I'm lucky enough that I have some library. It is library coin, right? Lc yeah lbc yeah i do i was one of the first ones are on there with my gaming chip no with this one here it was one of the earlier doctors but i didn't really upload to it before i linked my channel and all that jazz but i do have i think i have like four or five hundred or something. It amounts to like a hundred bucks or something like that. Ah, okay. That's the last I take. So it's not like I have thousands of dollars tied up in it.

So I'm not that worried, but I just don't like it being the end of library or the subsidiaries because YouTube needs a competitor. It does, yes. Even small competitors. So I like and kind of want library and bit.io to still be around because it keeps YouTube evolving and being on its toes even though they are

small competitors. We need competitors. That's why I don't want Windows to go away because Linux needs competitors and Linux needs a competitor odyssey right now is probably it's been getting a lot of traction recently like there's i've i've been finding creators there who i just like i've just been running across people like why the hell do you have an odyssey account like have you've never mentioned this before like really really big creators who just happen to be on odyssey that's sort of the point we're getting to whether it's actually getting a lot of traction

not just from like the bitcoin guys and the tech guys but just general youtubers are just popping up on this platform but i think it's because it's a great way to have a backup of your online library. It's very convenient. That's what helps. You just link, and every time you upload to YouTube, it gets pushed to library. And if YouTube should not like you for some reason, you have library. There's another platform that does that as well. I'm not going to mention bit bit shoot doing because bit shoot they sync your content apparently it literally has never worked for me i see it's where it worked six months for me and now it's not working anymore

i know it works for the big channels but they probably do that like they have a special agreement with the big channels. Probably, yeah. Another one that I'm on is Utreon. That's a very new one. Is that also... That's not critical. Is that also... Okay, is that decentralizing also?

No, I would just use it as a backup. It's just another place where you can put your content. But the devs for that one contacted me directly i was like hey i will try your platform out why not um the only other person of note on there is that is that eev blog uh he's awesome yeah what what about something like float plane you know privately exclusive platforms what is that something you think it's good or bad i think it's i i don't have an issue with people using i think it's actually a really good idea to have some way to incentivize monetization because you can do things like

early releases things of that nature um i don't particularly have a problem with people using any way they feel like to distribute their content my my i've got like this um i guess you'd call it like a a utopian view of how content should be distributed where i would like there to be like i would like you to just upload everywhere and people just watch wherever they want so lip replay viewer of it you know like uh what did they call it um it's not just utopia but um oh libertarian viewer think you would call it that yeah people should be free to do whatever they want with their content yeah i yeah if you want to just keep it on youtube i think you're an idiot but that's fine you can do that yeah the thing is just with like something like floatplane it is that it's invite only that's kind of what i was trying to ask is

is that do you think that's a good idea because it is excluding a lot of people but it's kind of like the nfl you know you kind of have to prove yourself to get on there well the thing with float planes float plane is it's not designed to be for discoverability so it's not going to make any sense to be there until you're big enough to the point where they would want to invite you anyway exactly yeah but i i think it's great and i i i just noticed uh what they call like a computer not a computer network engineer guy on there, and he has like 250,000 subscribers. I'm like, wow. And he was like, yeah, you can catch me on float play.

And I was like, okay. So they are starting to get more people in, not millions of subscribers people in. And I think that's a great move, to be honest. And it's a great alternative instead of, let's say, Patreon, if you're doing exclusive and stuff think that's a great move to be honest and it's a great alternative instead of let's say patreon if you're doing exclusive and stuff like that i'm just interesting because again linux guy if we're going to go back to linux they have a most linux people have a totally different view on that they think everything should be free and we can just grab whatever we want and have a big

orgy of content and stuff like that and it's it's interesting to see how that pans out if you ask me i yeah i sort of like honestly i would like the videos just be distributed the same way we do like distribute podcasts for example where i put my podcast everywhere you can if you you can watch an itunes you can watch it on google podcast you can watch it on whatever other podcast app you want to watch it on i don't care in the end you're still watching the content exactly yeah yeah i like that yeah i think i think that's gone too much politics in a lot of aspect of linux to be honest uh i i understand like the the hardcore foss people but i think ultimately you have to have some sort of middle ground there where you're gonna have there's a practical point where or the point where practicality has to like kick in rather than just

pure ideology yeah because if you if you're riding on that ideology, you become someone that's not fun to work with. Let us put it that way. And you may be right. You may be doing it for the right reasons. But if nobody wants to work with you or use the tools that you have made because it's inconvenient,

it don't matter how right you are. And closed source would be around forever open source or dplay software will be around forever windows will probably be around forever linux will probably also be around forever and mac os windows are rolling release now so windows 10 will probably be around forever as well yeah yeah but you get the gist of what i'm trying to say here we kind of just have to play together yes linux may take over windows on the desktop but in the end that will not matter because we will get windows practices being done under linux they will start companies will take telemetry they will nickel and dime you out of your house and

they will take your first bone and sacrificing it to the money guards and i i just don't get those people i think that the whole world would be this Zootopia if we all run Linux. Well, no, what's going to happen is the hardcore guys will go to BSD. Exactly. And when that becomes popular, they will go to Haiku. There's a... I think it's an XKCD about... It might not be XKCD,

but there's this little comic strip about OS, I guess, growth. once once linux takes over go to bsd then once that one takes over go somewhere else and the cycle just continues forever and ever because the the hardcore people don't the the sort of people who just don't want any corporate funding in it that want it to be this pure tech experience yeah and and here's the thing they want linux or whatever they are running not for the technical aspect but it's because it's actually psychological in a lot of instances in my belief anyway is that it makes them feel special it becomes the identity they are doing something more i call it the hipsters you know like the ones that use organic soap made by a virgin in the cayman islands you know that have never seen a guy before you know

and then they can talk to all their friends about that virgin soap that they are using or you know self-crafted beer but when that becomes too popular and everyone is using it they are being like now i'm not special anymore this is not me you know they go to the next thing and then the next thing and then the next thing so i think it's more that they want to feel like they they they have seen something we others don't have you know they are on the forefront of something that i have seen not the light but i have seen the future and you have not yet so i'm therefore a little bit more smarter or exclusive than you are interesting interesting than you are, let me put it that way. And then when you see the light and

thousands of others see the light, they're like, oh, let me find the next light or the next progression, you know. You get what I'm saying here. I know some of them. I'm friends with some of them, so that's fun. I have a lot of people like that in my Discord, yeah.

But hey, they are cool people. I have a lot of people like that in my Discord, yeah. Yeah. But hey, they are cool people. They are allowed to have that opinion. I just think that they are fooling themselves sometimes by... Because I always ask them, let's say Linux takes over Windows on the desktop. Are you still going to run Linux? And they don't know what to answer. Because you also get all of the they're the same people that say read the fucking manual so i'm like you have to you

have to say read the fucking manual to 10 000 people instead of two now with that you get all the new sorry i was gonna say something about the read the manual thing um that's actually part of the reason why i made the channel because there's a lot of a lot of that where you have this really cool software out there but it to actually understand the software you have to delve into this like 10 20 page manual whereas I couldn't take what's actually important to that software put it down it's like a 10 15 minute video and go about your day. And then if you want to go and delve into what each specific variable can actually do,

then you can go and take that deep dive into the manual. But there's this middle ground that can exist where you can actually help new people try something out that the manual would have been, I guess, like a hurdle there that didn't need to be there especially when we have this amazing technology to make video on the internet i am 100% agreeing with you and it's also one of the reasons why i also did my 10 is to demystify linux to a lot of people i the best comments i i have gotten is people that have

said to me i was afraid of running linux or I did thought I could run Linux, but I tried it anyway because you made it less scary for me. And Linux don't have to be scary. But those read the manual people want it to be scary and those hardcore people, they want it to be scary because it makes it exclusive. And that's why they're using this read the manual because I had to do that so now you have to do it. And again, channels like yours that are doing this middle ground is those are the channels that

get people into Linux. It's not the read the manual guys. It's not the politics guys. It's guys that are like, do you want to run Linux? Yeah. There's a little thing, a couple of things you need to know, but mostly try it out. Any problems, ask me.

I will help you out. You know, but there may be a little bit, you know, do you use Wi-Fi? You may be a little bit on the FE side, you know. But for the most part, you should be good. And that's all people want to know. They don't want to know, hey, do you know about Libre and open source software

and Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds? And yeah, we have this free BSD competitive. They don't care about that. They just want to try something new. Like we talked about with OBS, people don't care about the license. They use it because it's a great tool. You know, give people the great tool for the job. Absolutely.

Yeah. Well, we have just passed over two hours now. It is current. What time is it? It is 1.46 a.m. I am really awake. I'm not going to sleep. This is bad.

Either that or the second I turn these lights off, I'm going to crash. I hope that's what happens. I think you will crash. I think you will crash. I think you will crash. Or I can sing you a... I will not sing for you. I can find you a soothing sound. You can sing for me.

That would be a good way to end off the podcast. Oh, no, no, no. I can't sing. What I do if I've been overstimulated, I go onto YouTube and I listen to thunderstorms for 10 hours or something like that. I'm just like... Yeah, it's there. I just... Yeah, I'm just like... Yeah, it's fair.

I'm crazy like that. But yeah, it's been great fun, man. So usually what I do towards the end of the podcast is... Oh god, what is this thumbnail? I'm going to send you... That's disgusting. I want to see it.

Can I send... I don't know. Can I send... I don't know if I can send a screenshot over here. Maybe I can. Save that. So I just looked at my sub box and Linus Tech Tips has this new video with a thumbnail. Can I send a picture? I don't know.

I think you can in the chat. I don't think there's a way to attach one. I will send it on Twitter because you have to see this. Here we go. Add an image. There we go add an image there we go sometimes when I use social media

I start to feel old as well where is it it's somewhere I lost it no this is great content hey i'm looking in the wrong folder you're definitely tired yes um oh there it is. There we go. Okay, okay, okay. It's fine. If they're two hours in and they're still listening to this,

then that's fine. You should have it now. Oh, let me look. I was just... Yeah, oh. That's a porn meme right there. Why? Who was like, that's a porn meme right there why who was like that's a good thumbnail

it's a very clicky thumbnail for sure let's be honest that's going to be memed out of oh yes that is I have a lot of ideas about that already I need to incorporate that into one of my videos soon

where I make fun of him that is that's a thumbnail that's a thumbnail yeah uh anyway what i was gonna say before i saw that um was what i do towards the end of the podcast is give a shout out to some random channel is there anyone out there that you think deserves a bit of attention? There is actually one. He's not small, 8,600 or something, but it's amazing, great educational content. It's DJ Ware. I will link you his channel in the channel.

He is an old IT professor. I hate calling him old, but he's retired right now. And one thing we have to remember when you go into his channel He is an old IT professor. I hate calling him old, but he's retired right now. And one thing we have to remember when you go into his channel is it's kind of like I always say it like this. You and I, we are the bloke at the bar going into him. It's a little bit like getting your college professor to make a presentation to you. So you learn so much from listening to him.

He knows he's talking about kernel stuff, like how the kernel handles user space and stuff like that. And when he do a distribution review, he goes really into really great details about it on a professional level. I don't regard myself as a really, really stupid guy, but when I'm listening to him talk, I feel like I'm nine years old again.

I've never run Linux when he's talking. That's how I feel. What I thought I knew about Linux, yeah. And he has been there. He's been in the trenches. He's worked in the IT field with Linux for many, many, many years. So he knows what he's talking about.

And that's why I love recommending this dude because he knows what he's talking about. And that's why I love recommending this dude, because he knows what he's talking about. He's been there. It's not high-fleshing, funny, and stuff like that. But if you really want to learn Linux, if you really want to get into what makes Linux tick, this dude. No politics or anything.

Raw knowledge. So it's a little bit different than i've seen some of your other guys i've recommended so that's why i kind of also want to go that route but yeah i i he should be chris titus text size if you ask me because a 40 minute video that stuff you can use on your um certification that's how good it is it's stuff you can use for your linux certification that's awesome so yeah yeah definitely give him a try it is a little bit dry i'm not going to lie but you can learn stuff you can take with you to school university or at your work

and learn some stuff like i said like that that's amazing we need more people like him awesome yeah he's he's great man and he's a great uh support of linux and linux channels in general he goes into my chat sometimes when i'm talking and i'm honored to have someone like him in there that that i'm young in his size that i'm not like a fool you know just saying crazy shit so yeah definitely give him a look man awesome um well i've got another linux channel i'll recommend then uh this is a guy called uh tech hut oh yeah i know that dude yeah i watch him sometimes yeah i've actually um i'm planning another a podcast with him actually awesome yeah so keep me up up to date with that yeah no worries keep me up to date i will let you know when it

comes out. Yeah, so if anyone doesn't know who he is, basically he does the same sort of stuff that me and DT do, really, where it's these... Oh, he also does some hardware stuff as well. That's cool. I didn't actually realize that one. Yeah, he does general sort of Linux-y videos.

He does a couple of Windows-y things as well here and there. But yeah, if you enjoy the sort of stuff that me and DT do, I think he's worth checking out. I like... The only thing I have a little bit with is his benchmarks, but that's

just me nerding out and stuff like that. But the rest is cool, man. I like this dude, yeah. His one concern is that he's never been on a podcast before, so he doesn't know how he'll be able to keep talking for a couple of hours. This is my first time. You're used to live streaming, though, so that doesn't... Yeah, yeah.

So you have to keep people entertained by yourself. This is much easier. I have to try it one time, then. I actually had to see a doctor because I talk too much. I tend to just let people, if they want to take over the show, that's fine for me. That means less work for me. No, I thought I blew off my vocal cord. So I have to take a nose. I have to take a nose spray because

I have a dry throat. Oh, because I did I did a eight now almost nine hour livestream. And then the day after I had to help a friend with tech problems for six hours over also over Skype. So I was like, and then I haven't because and that's over a month ago so yeah i feel sorry yeah that's that's not a that's too no no no i'm yeah but i take this two or three times a day and when this is up i have to go and see you get a cam up my nose to see if my throat is okay but it turns out i have inefficient sinuses they're not working right. Well, hopefully that gets better then. Oh yeah, it's already better.

It's night and day. I'm fine now. Actually, that's one of the reasons why I had to also push it last week because work came in the way and I also had to see the doctor. I had to see the doctor that day and then I had to work after that.

Yes. So, yeah, it kind of was a snowball effect there. But, yeah, luckily enough, I just have to sniff some clue once in a while. I just assume people with real jobs are busier than I am. Oh, I was busy, but it's not. Come on, you have a real job. Don't say that, please. You have a real job. I put boxes that, please. You have a real job.

I put boxes on the shelf. That's my day job. Hey, you get money, right? I do, yeah. That's a job. Yeah, that's a job. I'm gardening a castle, you know. I do landscaping and stuff like that outside the local castle.

The only fancy is that it's a castle. That's what it is, you know. It's a castle. So people get, oh, you it's a castle. That's what it is, you know. It's a castle. So people get, oh, you work at a castle? Yeah, but it's just a normal job. I'm throwing out garbage, moving around dirt, you know. Yeah. So you have a proper job, man.

You have a proper job. People keep asking me when I'm going to get an IT job. I'm just like, maybe. We'll see. We'll see what happens. You kind of have it now on YouTube, though. Yeah. They're like, you should get a job as a system admin or a developer or something.

And I have the qualifications to do the dev work. I don't know. I'm very much the mindset that if everything's working fine, I'll just keep going with it. Worry about that later. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Less stress.

So where can the people find you? Oh yeah. See, that's the thing. I'm not Constance on my channel, on my naming scheme. So it's KLJ underscore Mad Dog on Twitter. That's my old gaming tag, by the way. KLJ Mad Dog

Rappel without a cause. The Real Geek on YouTube. If you want to see my old gaming content, it's the real Kent. Kent is my real name. And I think Instagram is the real Kent underscore YouTube. But if you just go on to the Real Geek,

I have links to all that. I need to unify that. But there's actually a reason for my Instagram being different. That's because by Instagram, I use that more if people want to see a more personal side of me. They go there. Twitter is just a promotional tool for me right now. My Discord

is called Starfield Command Uranus Station. I just love that. I also was a friend that came up with that name so we have i have a star trek theme that is called but all of that stuff is in my videos on on the real geek and if people want to talk to me i'm really really open on talking in dms and stuff like that mostly on discord or twitter is the place that's easiest for you notice that yourself to get hold of me i don't know why i didn't get your email by the way because i looked in my spam folder or if i if i deleted it because you said on when you're interested you have emailed me i haven't seen

that that's bizarre yeah i could have the email wrong i don't know. I could have deleted it by mistake. I could have done that. I'm not perfect. But I haven't seen it. And I was like, when you said that, I was like, oh my god, I felt really bad. And I was just like, where is it? And I just couldn't find it. So either I deleted it.

Yeah, but my email is also crazy because it's KLJMadDog. You know, it's remnants from my gaming channel, which my game attack was either Mad Dog or KLJ Mad Dog. So I need to make a specific Twitter for my channel. But I don't like it to become too professional. Yeah, that's fair. It's the whole fear of success kind of things I'm dealing with that. I don't like things getting too, you know, I like it as a hobby, if you get what I'm saying. I can respect that.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's, that's the easiest way is either join my discord. And if you don't understand, people don't like this call, go onto Twitter and I, I'm always up for chat on Twitter and stuff. And I love helping people, even though we joke about that. So if you have any hardware or software problems, you can always ask. I'm more than likely to guide you to some resources.

And if I have the time, I may even help you yourself. But I love this stuff and I love helping people with their computers. So don't be ashamed or afraid of asking me. Well, if people have already forgotten the names that you said, there will be links to them in the description anyway. Yeah. Thanks for that, man. No worries.

Yeah, I need to merge it together so it's more coherent. I need to do that. I'm just too lazy. I made the choice early on to have everything consistent, and it's been a good decision. Yeah. Yeah, so before we go, unless you have some other thing you want to say. have everything consistent and it's been a good decision yeah so before we go

unless you have some other thing you want to say no cool before we go then I would like to thank my supporters a special thank to a special thank you to Chris, Joachim, Donald, Michael Andrew, Nathan, David, Ron, Zaviel, Brennan

Chico, Bento, Jamie, Joseph Mitchell Mitchell, Peevee, Stephen, Tony, Tushar, and all of the $2 supporters. If you would like to support work, the link's in the description, somewhere in there. I don't know, under his links. There is this podcast over on YouTube if you're watching the audio version. And if you are watching the video version, actually, it's also on Odyssey as well. If you're watching the video version and you want to, watching the video version, actually, it's also on Odyssey as well, if you're watching the video version, and you want to, I don't know,

listen to it on the bus or something, the audio version you can find basically anywhere, if you search for Tech Over Tea, it'll probably show up, if it doesn't, let me know, because, I don't know, Google's shadowbanned me or something, and my main channel, which is probably where most of you guys are coming from, but if you're're not and you just somehow stumbled across this podcast is Brody Robertson so yeah I will give you the final word, what do you want to say? have fun people

I can respect that, yes yeah, have fun and live a great life cool, I'm I'm gonna go to sleep see you guys later, go do that I had a lot of fun with this, that was awesome yeah, same

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