Tech Over Tea - #69 Linux Gaming Is Very Dead | HexDSL

Episode Date: June 23, 2021

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I did this you started as soon as the course I just didn't tell me yeah, I've clicked start now. Oh Well welcome to episode 69 of techivity haha funny meme number episode This episode I thought it'd be funny to bring hex DSL. I don't know why Think you can just play along with the joke. That's why I've got a sex joke. Hmm. I'll bring hex DSL How does that make me feel? How does that make me feel? I think you're going to enjoy it And the correct thing to do would be to turn my video upside down So we are 69ing the whole time the podcast is running

I want to see that when I watch this video on YouTube I want to find out at the start of the cast I'm upside down And then we make the 69 joke Disappointing Well I can go and edit it right now if you'd like We can start again if you really want to and then we make the 69 joke. Disappointing. Well, I can go into editor right now if you'd like. We can start again if you really want to.

You know my policy on effort. You know how against effort I am. Right, but then you're asking me to do something in post. That's not happening. Okay, audience, dear audience, right? There's already more people watching this than watch any of my videos, right? So just imagine, I want you to imagine up until he said 69, Okay, audience, dear audience, right? There's already more people watching this than watch any of my videos, right? So just imagine, I want you to imagine up until he said 69, my face was rotated, right?

Just imagine that. Now take a moment to laugh, and now we move on. Done. Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah. I assume you're stirring tea, but it does look like you're wanking right now. You know that, right?

You're aware of that. Well, it fits perfectly with the theme then. Because I'm just like, all right, yeah like yeah so just yeah okay now i know you realize why you're here because you can play along with the joke perfectly play along with the joke if you're just wanking while we do a podcast that's not a joke that's's sexual assault, and I'm not okay with it. Yeah, a little bit. How you been, man? I've been excellent.

Since the last time we spoke, which, you know what? You know it's really bad, right? I don't remember how long ago it was. It could have been 10 years or three days. I literally, like, I'm like a dog. I never know how much time has passed. I know it was before the uh the christmas video you did so it's got to be at least six months that's right because i invited you to the christmas you was like no dude i'm too famous that's not what happened um no that's exactly what happened

10 000 subscribers no thank you before you keep slandering my name i didn't do it because i hadn't played many games that came out that year. And I didn't think I had anything to really say for it. This year, I will do it if you're going to do it again. I do it every year, right? But you know what's really... I didn't talk about this last time, right? I don't think I've talked about this.

I don't remember what I talked about. I said I'm a dog, basically, right? But I... And also, if there's a hum in the background, that's my air conditioning. You have to live with it because I'm not turning it off. I can't hear myself. It's probably fine. I tried to balance my mic in a position where my body blocks the flow

of air so hopefully no one can hear it but anyway i'm not i just not turning it off now fair enough man it's like like 11 degrees or something i'm gonna mount um british summer 11 degrees in rain um no no like that christmas video right every year for those of you don't know every year i make a video where I invite anyone I've been talking to, like anyone that's on my radar, I invite them to send a one-minute or 30-second segment, I don't remember what I said last year, just a little video to go like,

oh, this is a game I played this year, it's Linux, I'm this person. The idea was it was to promote so everyone could self-promote as well as showing that we're not like YouTubers. I don't like the word YouTube, but people who met Linux videos, we're not in competition, right? Like the idea was to show like,

just to show that we're all like, you know, there's no, there's no rivalry here. And over the years, it's just been harder and harder to get people to do it. Because one of the things I've learned is people that make YouTube videos, very egocentric and not very reliable.

So every year I'm like, you want to do this they're like no man too busy for that i hope i'm not the first one but i can definitely attest to the second but it's like yeah it's it's it's just like it's a shame because like it would be cool if every year we could get like a video that's really long it's just all the people in the space making videos but that's not happening just just not happening um so yeah uh what i'm doing this year because like this year this last year that went was like kind of the final straw in it where i'm like what i'm doing now is i'm sending people one email or one dm with like here's the video

here's the document explains the criteria uh this is it you either do it or don't i'm not i'm not this year i'm not like because what i do usually is every couple of weeks because i'll start off in like november and then about every two weeks i'm like yo dude don't forget the video yo dude don't forget the video yeah and uh well that's a lot of effort everyone forgets the video all of them just don't bother or then people go a week after the video so i'm like hey man i did my segment i'm like you know you you know dude you know you know so yeah this year i'm gonna do it i'm just gonna be like there's your video like if it turns out to be just me drew and chris whatever fine with that that's absolutely fine i promise i'll do it this year you give my word it's six months early but i we hopefully won't

forget this is where this is where i get an email from brody right it's just like i did my video and it's like it's july christmas, July, man. Christmas, July. I want to send it to you next week. That'll work. I mean, you know what? You know what? And you'll forget about it, right? I'll save it. And you know what happened?

The video got out. You go, where's my video, dude? I'm like, you never sent it to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Considering that I sent you the Jitsi link, you just couldn't find it. Yeah.

No, before we started this call, he sent me the jitsi link and i was pasting pictures of me dressed as et into chat and i was like where's the link he's like i sent it i was like where he's like before all the shit you posted and i was like oh right that's that's on me that is that is on me i i wasn't helping out i was starting to post stuff as well i've got so much in here that i could post um how much how much is my fan art folder too much honestly too much some of it's really bad as well um i don't know if i want to show you some of it like it's that bad yeah you see you see mine i've got my favorite one is the uh the gif which you you can

you've got so you can show that i can like arch yeah. The gif was somewhere like Arch Toasty was like, I imagine Hex, I'm reimagining Hex as Sailor Moon. But like he did an entire animation for it and stuff. And that was like, I was just like, thank you, I think. Yeah, I think that's the thing you're supposed to be thankful for. Yeah, sure, why not? Oh, no, now your face is the wrong thing. He's also done this.

That's on the wrong screen. He's also done this. That's on the wrong screen. That would be why. Everything broke. Everybody, I'm XDSL. I break everything. That was my fault. There we go.

Oh. Wait. That's why it broke. I closed my browser. I like how I know you don't edit, so all this is in the show it's like ah ah ah like for a good 15 minutes it's like yeah anyway while i edit what's the point of that what you want to do is what i've got really good you know the record pause button inside obs right i've just got a key binding for the pause button so when we do so when i'm doing like Trendy Talk podcast, I just hold down the button while something's happening.

I'm just like, there you go, edited, done. It's fine. Yeah, that's too much for me. I'll just forget to restart it. No, I respect the shit out of that. It's great. It's fine. You don't know how bad I am actually recording videos.

I just restart the recording every time I make a mistake, like when i'm just doing regular videos actually i like joking aside i think i i used to do that and i think it's really useful to learn to be more confident and not to not to add uh like in your dialogue and just instead of doing that you learn to just be the fucking quiet for a moment or what i do which is just talk incessantly and monologue your fuck ups as if that helps somehow which is what i've done in my videos i do you think force yourself to re-record and force yourself to do a better job is healthy it's good useful i don't

usually do like ums and ahs my main problem is that i uh what are you doing right now i i typically I typically stumble over my words and the sentence just makes no sense. I always, I always like to throw a lampshade in that. So I'll start talking. It'll go wrong. I'll just look at the camera and be like, that wasn't English. I'll just do it again.

I just, I leave it all in as well. I'm just like, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. Fair enough. Maybe that would work.

I should probably try it out at some point. I've just been doing this style since basically when I started, with the exception of my really early stuff when I'm making videos in the shed. But apart from that, everything else I've been doing like this sort of like jump cut editing style

that everyone sort of does on YouTube. Yeah, I don't like my, I mean, when it comes to styles, I like styles. My style is I find something I want to talk about and I hit record. And then when it comes to styles and you are like styles my style is i find something i want to talk about and i hit record and then when i'm bored of talking i stop and that is my method yeah it's the hex method there's nothing to it which is probably why i've only got four subscribers probably uh congrats on uh 10k by the way yeah yeah i'm 10k now i i'm

grateful for all the people that subscribed and and and i'm i'm in surprised and humbled by the fact that 10 000 people want to listen to me talk shit on a bi-daily basis but at the same time given the length of time that on youtube that is not very many at all very long time haven't you yeah i've been doing it for a long time but i'm i've never chased subscribers or or or done the grind you know the youtube grind um because i i don't like for me it's a hobby and i know i'm never going to make money and i'm never going to be like i'm never going to retire on my youtube show right so i'd rather just make content that i like making and because of that it means that i grow very slowly but the audience i have i feel like the audience i have tend to stay and I tend to be loyal is the

wrong word because they don't owe me anything. You know, there's no loyalty to grow, but they tend to get me and want to hang out. And that's good. But I, you know, it would be nice to occasionally go, Holy shit. I got 3000 subscribers today. Yeah. Yeah. That would be cool. But I do respect that. Um, I, I think it's partially due to the fact that you're just always available to talk as well. You don't sort of put yourself above your audience.

I'm just like, hey guys, just come hang out in Discord. They're like, we don't like Discord. I'm like, well, that's where I am. Sorry. Yeah, fair enough. Email me. But there's a lot of people out there who have like community Discords

and they'll be moderating it and they just never talk in it. I mean, I'm always just an out of way i mean i live in discord i keep it on my phone and you know um it's on it's on it's on my pc on my laptop you know i'm always just an out of way from it um and if ever i don't reply it's just because i'm busy you know it's like but i'll always get back to people and yeah i it's i think part of that comes from having less subscribers as well because if i had a discord if I was really successful on YouTube and had a million subscribers, I would have to run my Discord differently because, of course, there would be too many people there.

So there are benefits to being a small fish. There are benefits to not growing too fast and growing very slowly and organically. I think that I'm grateful that people are interested in the shit I'm saying because I'm not qualified to give people insight into anything, really. Look, if anyone's qualified to talk about games on Linux, I think you are. You've been doing it for a very long time. Yeah, yeah.

But it's not like, as you said last time you were on here, there's not much to really say anymore. It's just like, it works. Linux game is dead. Linux game is not a thing. You go, it works, or it doesn't work, and then that's the whole conversation. Or you go, or my more recent one, you works or it doesn't work and then that's the whole conversation or you go or my more recent one is go it doesn't work here's geforce now it solves

all your problems that's it that's the whole conversation i think the worst problem i've had with the game i've played is uh i was playing the hd remake of tie the tasmanian tiger very good game highly recommend it uh and for some reason wait that doesn't sound like if that sounds like a made-up game why is it Tasmanian Tiger it has main t-a-z uh t-a-s it's a very real game i it's made by an Australian studio i highly recommend just listening to some of the audio. Actually, you know what? I'm gonna bring something up. Has been in Tiger trailer. Sure, why not? It is a very real game. You're gonna play an ad YouTube?

Please don't play an ad. Good, yes. I found the trailer. I found the trailer one. You're gonna show me some of the audio of the characters? Ah, that's very important. Everyone in this game... Okay, I can't find some of the characters talking. Every character in this game has the most, like,

stereotypical Australian accent you can just picture in your mind. I mean, this game looks fucking terrible, it's a ps2 game came out in 2002 i mean of course that's i'm glad you said that because steam says 2016 i'm like yeah no that chrome has only ever made one successful game and they just re-release it on new consoles also don't forget you can get tie the tasmanian tiger two three four yes you don't want four four is not very good i don't believe any of them are good i thought it looks all right though it looks like rayman it came out when like uh uh what's the word mascot platforms were really popular so around like the um you know, Rayman,

Ratchet and Clank sort of time. Yeah. The, those, those, those mascot platforms always confuse me because none of these things was ever mascots before the game. And I'm like, I'm like,

cool spot made sense. Cause he was advertising drinks before he was in a game. Sure. And then like, they're like, there was like, we can just make a mascot. And pretty much like,

that's not how that works. Banjo and Kazooie. Just definitely. everyone knew these characters beforehand for sure yep yeah absolutely i know i kind of i like mascot platforms partially because of the fact that i just like platformers even though a lot of them are a bit jank i like platformers platformers and things i like in theory like in my head i like platformers but they're gonna play I like in theory. In my head, I like platformers. But when I play them, I'm like, oh, I'm so bored. I'm so bored. But in my head, I'm like, yeah, platformers, it's fun.

But then, yeah, no, I don't. But I think I do. And that's enough to keep buying them. Because in my brain, I'm like, yeah, it's great. It's not. Is this just with the general sort of platformer? If you have something like Super Meat Boy level, just... No, know super i mean i like more casual platformers right i said like again it's like it's in my head i like them in reality i hate them i don't want to

play them but in my head i like them but uh the suit the ones with the high difficulty of the super high was like vvb uh super meat boy and even mario maker i'm like yeah i know i'm smart enough to know that i wouldn't enjoy those because for me i mean for me games are never really with except there are exceptions but for the most part games aren't about the challenge they're about the enjoyment they're about basking in the world they're not about like i don't want to get stressed out and pissed off i can't quite make it there are exceptions to that right like like i wouldn't dream of playing doom eternal or anything other than the hardest setting right because the struggle is part of the thing that makes you feel that way in that game

but like when i get a platform, saying this is a really hard platformer doesn't make me want to play it more. I'm just like, oh, it's hard. Like I don't mind a game being hard because I'm not good. But if you're trying to make a game, coupled with the fact that I'm not very good at games, I'm going to have a bad time, you know?

Yeah, well, a lot of the problems with the hard platforms is the fact that they just don't have very tight controls either. And when you're a platformer like that, it's just... You can't play it. I always wonder, though, do they make the controls loose in order to make it harder? Like, do they make a really tight-tuned game and then go, let's loosen it up because we want it to be harder?

I always wonder about that. There would definitely be devs who do that, for sure. There are also devs who are just not very good. Well, don't do that, devs. Yeah. Stop it. Bad devs. Make good games very good well don't do that devs stop it make good games make games supposed to be fun

I do think that gaming has got there are two types of gamers there are gamers that just want to enjoy the experience and there are gamers who want to be told that they're awesome because they can finish this game and I'm like no your self worth should not be linked to how good a I think those

are the same sort of people who get really invested in things like apex and all like those big multiplayer games see i i played i played i've played movers movers no i've played uh i've played battle royales yeah and enjoyed them um not because i'm like i'm the best in the world fuck you but like more because like oh shit i actually won one cool I'm the best in the world, fuck you, but like more because like, oh shit, I actually won one, cool, you know, that's the angle I come out. The idea of the game, I enjoy, it's just like,

I don't have any interest in like, the ranking sort of thing, like, I am silver now, I'm golden now, I'm platinum, go up, Vegas reset every couple of months.

Yeah, yeah. It's not my thing. It's nice to, it's nice to go into a game, be surprised at how well you did on your own, right? Like,

it's nice to go, like when I was playing a lot of PUBG on Stadia before that went down the pan deeply. It was nice to go in there and then feel like, oh shit, I would. I feel like I feel competent. I feel like I got somewhere with this. It's a nice feeling. But yeah, if someone said, play this, it's like PUBG,

but we made the bots like Terminators, I'd be like, no, thank you. No, I don't want no no i don't want that no one that yeah uh i mainly like play single player stuff anyway i sort of like challenging myself really that's that i've been playing things like dead cells and hades a lot recently that's my main my main sort of go this is how this is really good right this is really yeah this is really that's what i get really tight is really... That's one of the games with really tight controls, really balanced. It's one that I didn't quite... Even though it's exceptional,

I don't think I took to it the way I wanted to. I really wanted to enjoy it more than I did. But I didn't... I didn't have much to play. I didn't play loads. I think I... Yeah, I played like eight hours of it and I just...

Yeah, I didn't really feel the need to go back to it, but not because it was bad. It just... It didn't hook me the way it should have, you know? Okay. I think Hades is an absolutely amazing game. What I think it suffers from, especially what I noticed after playing Dead Cells,

is there is a severe lack of content, is probably a good way to put it. You already have the set, four areas. Five? If you don't count boss rooms, four areas. And that's what you have to run every single time. Sure, the bosses get more difficult. Sure, you can increase the difficulty of the game generally,

change up your build, but you're always running the exact same areas every single time. And Dead Cells, on the other hand, it has the same sort of progression system where you fight, you go through a room, room, boss, room, room, boss, and then you get to the end of the game. And you keep redoing that loop.

But there are different routes that you can take every time. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes, especially when you're starting off, it feels like it's randomly generated because you're so lost all the time, right? It's only when you start really sort of getting a grip of the game, you start going, okay, this isn't random. This is the same thing every time I just go find my way. Yeah, you just realize, oh, there's actually these set rooms

they just place that seem random. Yeah, that's cool. Obviously, there are the random elements like, oh, there might be a health fountain here. There might not be. But besides that, that's sort of a problem with procedurally generated stuff. Once you realize how it's procedurally generated you realize it's not as Special as a thought. Procedural generation has a place in gaming

But for the most part it makes them worse like like if the developer says to me all this is procedure to generate them like that Means you didn't do any work like but go do to make the level yourself stop stop letting your computer do it Your REST will not generate as good a level as a person. Just stop it. Yeah, if you had maybe if you sort of simulated the idea of procedural generation, but you had these levels you made

out yourself, it's just that the parts that would connect together were sort of different. I think that would work out. I don't know. I think that when it gets procedurally generated, it doesn't have the authenticity it feels like uh it feels like surprise boxes it doesn't feel like a place to explore and in like there are there are times that that's not true like there are things like loop hero for instance right which isn't so much procedurally generated as as as generated as a side effect of gameplay right that makes sense

right but if it's any game a game like uh a game like hades and stuff they've got to do a certain as generated as a side effect of gameplay, right? That makes sense, right? But if it's a game like Hades and stuff, they've got to do a certain amount of mixing to keep it going. But yeah, I think when someone goes like, this level's been generated by computer, I'm like, oh, so it's going to be very boring and very samey. It's like, it's what you're going to get with that.

I think the procedural generation works for games like Dead Cells and Hades because the main focus is fighting the bosses. Yeah, yeah. And the bosses are the same every time. It's more like the Procedural Generation is there to sort of... Training rooms, right? Yeah, it's to train you to fight the boss

and it's to sort of be a stumble block along the way because if you had the exact same rooms every single time, you would get to the point fairly quickly where you could just smash through those rooms with no effort whatsoever yeah yeah i agree i agree but uh yeah but that's the case of someone using procedural generation like a tool to make their game which the ones where like um i was trying to think um song songbird there was a couple of games that came out a few years ago and they were touting procedural generation like it was a selling point. Yeah, yeah.

What was the space game that was really bad when it first came out? All of them. Every space game. Yes. What was it called? It was like procedure generated planets. Oh, you mean like No Man's Sky?

Yeah, no one sky That's a game where the procedure generation Did some interesting things early on? Okay, so like no man's sky You're always one of them games where like I feel bad for it because it actually was a good game But it came out like if you just look if you look at it in isolation Just look at the game with no hype you go pretty fun It wasn't even remotely

what they promised, right? So all the people that followed the game's development went, this isn't it, fuck you. And all the people that literally didn't follow it, oh, cool space game. They got a cool space game. The problem, I mean, the problem with that is complicated, obviously. But yeah, like No Man's Sky, the people you say, oh, it's a terrible game, it was fixed. It was always a good game. It was always

fine. Really fine. If anything, they've added so say, oh, it's a terrible game, it was fixed. It was always a good game. It was always fine. Really fine. If anything, they've added so much content now, it's just absolutely daunting to load in because of all the shit they've added to it. I have never actually played the game. All I know about it is there are really weird looking animals. Yeah, there are.

They're not as bad now. I've just looked on Steam. I can't believe No Man's Sky is still 40 quid that seems ridiculous wow okay when did that game come out? 2016 jeez okay yeah that's a little much

yeah I don't know if you have topics planned for this but I've got a topic here's something you can talk about have you played have you have you played uh bio i haven't but i hear it's a good game and it's not a good game i don't know okay so so first of all i need to say, Biomutant is essentially Kingdom of Amlar. It's essentially a very similar game to Kingdom of Amlar with a drastically different setting, which fools you

into thinking it's a drastically different game until you're about 20 hours in and you're like, actually, I can start to see the... It's beautiful looking. They've created a wonderful world in it. And then they thought, hey, I'll charge £55 for it £55

And I was like That's literally twice as much money As you should be asking It is $100 in Australia That is stupid No What is that about So I went to Humble Bundle

Humble monthly Humble store.io.com fucking what is that about uh so i was like so i went to humble bundle humble monthly humble whatever it's called now humble.store.io.com and i've got 20 discount because i'm a subscriber to humble choices um so that got down to 45 pounds thereabouts i was like that's still too much money but i'm curious enough to fucking find i'll buy it and uh i loaded it up and i played it i've got 29.1 hours on record now which doesn't sound like a lot until you realize that was over three days right right i literally like i was like i was like it was like it started on friday and i played 10 hours and i got up saturday and played 10 hours and i got sunday and played 10 you know literally like three days. Yeah.

Which makes you, which you would think, I'd go, because it was really good. Right? No. No, it's not. No.

What happened there was, it was a very nice setting, right? And because I like nice settings, that was enough to carry me. And I'm very, because I like the setting and I like being a little squirrel and running around, right? I was, I've just realized there's no tea in this cup i'm

a little bit disappointed sorry i just that was heartbreaking that was heartbreaking um yeah you get i i got i like i was running around the world i was being i like the motion and the fighting and i every day i discover something and for the first 10 hours that was like i was like this is good i'm really enjoying this it's interesting it's different it's like it's like skyrim if it was not shit you know like that's kind of you know because skyrim is the worst game ever made pretty much i know the people about to type comments no it is it's not we can talk about skyrim in a bit it's a bag of shit um anyway like don't even get me started on fallout um anyway so i'm enjoying it right after 10 hours i'm like it's good i'm enjoying it and then 10 hours after that i was like i was like every time

that like it's got this mechanic where i have to like do fights in what they call forts right i'm like oh every single one's the exact same fight i was like that's sad and then there's other things we have to unify the tribes and stuff you have to you have to enter their stronghold and it's like mini fight mini fight very basic puzzle mini fight it's over i was like well i've done five of these now great uh by the time i got to about 28 hours i was like just fucking end just end already i'm still really liking the motion in it but yeah it's when i pay if i'm gonna pay 55 english pounds for a game i should be playing that for 100 hours right should not be playing that for 30 hours and go i just feel like i'm done with it you know um and i feel like i've seen most things in biome i don't think there's a lot i

haven't seen in there but uh it was weird because it's such a nicely presented setting that it tricks you into thinking it's a way better game than it is and then when you start seeing the edges of that and you start going okay well like there's a there's a mechanic in the game with mounts right so i had this cool air balloon man right and i'm like this is a cool hot air balloon i'm like you're ready to let my hair balloon and then i was like i tried to sum my air balloon a different area and it went oh no you can only use that hair balloon over the desert oh why what why i just don't want to use my hair balloon over here to get to that hill because it's boring to climb up it it's like why

and then it's got this mechanic where like you attach spells the face because i was playing controller so it's like so like it's like the face buttons are you spells so if i want to do fire i go triangle if i want to do jump i go i get magic jump i go x right right but i had i didn't just have four skills i I had ten skills. So every time I want to change a skill, I go into the menu and reassign the skill to a button to use it, and then go back into the menu and reassign the other one back. And I was like,

I think of my 30 hours, I spent 29 hours in the menu changing my options around. And there's the other mechanic, we've got this magic power fist, right? And the only time you use the power fist is to punch a hole in the wall. And it's cool, right? So you have to equip the fucking fist every time.

Instead of just walking up to the wall and holding down X, which is what you think, you have to equip the fist and then hold down X, and then unequip the fist. And it's just like, there are things like that in the game that just make it tedious to play. So by the time I got to the end, it couldn't end fast enough.

And in order to get to the end of the game, you have four boss fights you have to do. And they're big, but you spend your time preparing for the boss in each area, essentially. That's the kind of little bit Breath of the Wild-y in that way, which is not a bad thing at all. But no matter how you build your character, then when you go to the boss fight,

it goes, oh, you're on a horse for this boss fight. I'm like, I don't know that horse. I've never ridden a horse. The mount moves slower than I can walk as a squirrel. And it can't jump. And I can, like, jump and shit. And I've got magic. And it goes, you can't use magic when you're mounted.

And I'm like, well, don't mount anything again. Like, don't do that. And then there's the next one. I was like, I'm in water. And I'm like, okay. I'm one i was like i'm in water and i'm like okay i'm on like a bike in water and i was built for magic on land so that was terrible and it was tedious and boring and each boss fight is like that they're so they're so formulaic and scripted like there's only one way to play the boss fight if you can have a boss in your game just make it

a big old bullet sponge just give it loads of health and let me just shoot it however I like. And I won't give you spoilers, but then it had a shit ending on top of that. Ah, lovely. It's weird because when it's the first 10 hours, I was like, he doesn't deserve these mixed reviews. Like, sure, it's overpriced, but these reviews are mixed. He doesn't deserve that. But by the time I got to

the end of the game, I was like, this game totally deserves mixed reviews because even I don't know how I feel about it. It's like, it totally makes sense to stop these reviews that was my biomutant head talk i saw a little bit of your video on biomutant it looked like a pretty game um and you saw the mixed reviews and i'm looking at some of the reviews now and some of the some of these reviews are actually really good um and they all seem to be around the same point where people like this is kind of shit like maybe a 40 game get it for less than $30 when it's on sale. This game is a hot girl with no personality.

Yeah, you know what? You know what? That's misogynistic and wrong, but very good. Very well phrased. Okay, here's one then. Something is missing. I feel dead inside when I play this. No, I didn't.

I did enjoy the world the world was nice but it was like it looks really pretty i'll give it that it is a really pretty looking game and it's fun to be a squirrel but like things like the world the premise of the game is the world ended an unknown amount of time ago and the world ended because of pollution right and then it created it mutated the animals now the animals are living in their own society so it's a post apocalyptic to humans from their point of view it's it's a freshly built well it's like it's an origin story for them which is an interesting dichotomy it's a nice it's a nice yin and yang to one thing dies to the other right the problem is they don't expand on that at all right they don't they don't they don't give you

any lore in the game past a few signposts that go pollution's bad right right um there's a bit of that and it's got a very heavy environmentalist message which i respect right i'm totally in favor of that sure i like i like trees trees are good yeah it's it's it's preachy in a way that is unashamed they're like they're like humans fucked up the world because they're dirty meat-eating layabout wankers i'm like yeah we are i'm a human that's true right i i you know um so i didn't mind any of that and i thought all the mixed reviews was because i didn't read any of that and i thought all the mixed reviews was because i didn't read the reviews before i played the game right of course don't

do that very bad i never never look at reviews like yeah uh so i didn't look at any and i was like maybe this is why it gets negative reviews on steam because the preachiness of it but no one even mentioned that people seem on board with the ecological message of it which is good but yeah like the fact they've got like like you've got this post that like it's recently the humans died out within a couple of generations squirrels live for 20 years so you assume that the world has been about like humans have only been gone for like 50 years right realistically that's what you assume but i don't know that because there's no law in the game there's all these cool settings and visuals but there's no law there's no world building other than the is it one of these games

that do law through like item descriptions or is there no law whatsoever? There is law in the game, but it's so basic. Even down to what actually happens to humans. Why is there a tree of life? Is there life everywhere else on Earth? Where am I geographically? There's all these very basic questions that are not explored within the game. Even though I'm not usually a plot guy,

I like law, and I would have liked to have if there had been little things I could stop and read, I would have done. I would have done. And I get they wanted to make a game that wasn't about humans, but I would like to have found some notes about what happens to humans

or even find a couple of human corpses, right? Because you've got to remember, you're a squirrel, right? You're a squirrel. So you're like three feet tall because you're a mutant squirrel, right? So when you see cars, when there's a car there and it's abandoned,

your eye level is at the top of the boot of the car, right? The rear of the car. Right. So like you're really small. So it would have been cool to see human stuff and go, Oh shit. Humans was massive.

So if you see a dead human, you're like, shit, they're massive, you know, but there's no, there's no leftovers. There's,

it's devoid of the stuff that would have made the world way more deep science fiction, right? It would have made it way more intricate. And that's, that's where the game fell down because I feel, and this sounds like a hyperbolic thing right but they made half a game they made the game and then they didn't do the bit where you're supposed to then enrich the game with lore with artwork and with with interesting things but they made the basics

and we ship it quick ship it quick and that's sad really you know so if i get it on sale for like i don't know oh you have a fridge there so i forgot it for like maybe half Yeah, if that was a £35 game, it would be a hard recommendation. But honestly, if I had to pay £35 for it, I would have been like, I had £35 worth of fun out there. But at £55,

which is, it's not just not worth it, it's a little bit like, it's a little bit, I feel like they've overpriced it, hoping that when people buy it, they want to get buyer's confirmation and be like, it's great,

it's definitely worth £55. And I'm not sure how true that is, but it, they want to get buyer's confirmation and be like, it's great. Right. Definitely worth 55 pounds. And I'm not sure how true that is, but it's not. Like, if I had to pay, like, you know, I mean, given that right now

I can buy Kings of Amalur the remaster for 35 quid, that's a lot more game there for that. I'm just going to check that. Well, there's no fucking way I'm paying $100 for it. That's not happening.

That's stupid. I can buy so many fucking games for that. I mean, so at full price you can get Kingdom of Amalur, the re-reckoning, right? For $34.99. And I've played the original Kingdom of Amalur, I've played

about 60 hours of, and I've also played 18 hours of the remake. So I'm guessing you can get like, you know, 70 hours out of Kingdom of Amalur, easy, right? For a lot less money and the remake of kings of amala is a far better game overall but it lacks the whimsy setting so i've never played this game but it looks cool king of amala yeah that was fucking like oh god kings of amala right fucking great the original game had a massive that's had one very large problem which

you have which you had to like you had to just accept that was you had a crappy camera so right it was a camera that was behind your character but it wasn't it was designed for a four by three ratio so like it was it was weird you basically your character was just too big in your camera right it was just like but then to combat that if you go into combat the camera zoom out and go to the side and then that was disorienting but you kind of get used to it after like you know a few hours but the game was good enough to carry it so when they made kings of amala the re-reckon they went they went ridiculous and it may have more camera and fov controls than any game in history like you can zoom out so far your character's one pixel and it's the game's like yeah it's fine it's fine so that you know they address the problem they had and the result is the kings of amalar the re-reckoning is an absolutely

superb game like really is good um and it runs beautifully on pretty much a potato it's really good that reminds me of what um the vellerin devs did uh i don't know if you'd know vellerin is basically like an open source version of Cube World. No, this is news to me. Do you know what Cube World is? That will make this harder. Cube World. I'll send you a link to Veleron. Okay, here you go.

Whoa, did that come through Jitsi? Jesus Christ, Jitsi's got a chat building? Yeah, yeah, they do. Whoa. Okay, I'm going to have to copy that now. I'm going to have to paste it in a different browser. Ah, okay, yeah. Basically, it is like a... It's a voxel RPG.

Okay, okay, okay. This is like Ace of Spades and stuff like that, right? Yes, but not an FPS. Okay, okay. But yeah, it's basically a voxel RPG. I mean, I know it's not a popular opinion, but that is fucking hideous, isn't it? That's basically a voxel rpg um i mean i know it's not popular opinion but that is fucking hideous isn't it that's just horrible to look at it's like yeah not a fan but carry on sorry anyway i love this game it's a great game um but the devs like to pop into my live streams

occasionally and i intentionally break the game and half the time they're just like no that's a feature so you can use your mouse wheel to like scroll out to get like a bigger view of the world You can scroll that so far that the game map just starts violently shaking and like no that's a feature We're not fixing that that's funny That's great You can zoom in to first person as well. You want to play this game first person, but hey, it's there. I love the devs.

They're awesome people. Yeah. I highly recommend playing Valorant if you want a bit of fun. It's very alpha and will break a lot, but it's fun. Anyway, that was my tangent. I just wanted to talk about the camera. Every time I see a game that's like box-only,

I'm like, what these are is massive pixels. So essentially, and I know this doesn't make, I know this is not true, but in my head, I'm like, a game like this, it's essentially, if you take every single cube as a pixel, it's like I'm in a really low resolution.

I don't know why it bothers me. I get what you're saying there. That looks fun. Is that going to come to Steam, is it? Or is it just like an open-sourcy thing? It's just open-sourcy. They might put it on Steam at some point. I don't know.

But it's very alpha right now. Okay, they had a trading system where the trading system was so broken uh you could buy infinite potions because potions cost less than a rock you just pick up a rock off the ground and pay for every potion in the shop brilliant brilliant my favorite bug with that was when um borderlands 2 came out and you could just give someone negative money it I'll just give you minus 3 million. And then they patched it so a buddy of mine found out that he could give me all his money and then hard kill the

game so it didn't write a save game and then load back in his money was there and then give me all his money and hard kill and just do that and then I'd just give it back to him and he'd have like 100 billion. All the Borderlands, even without that, all the Borderlands games have duping bugs in them anyway. I remember there was a way, I think you All the Borderlands, even without that, all the Borderlands games have duping bugs in them anyway.

I remember there was a way, I think you could like, give someone an item and then just quit out the game and if the game has an autosave, it just dupes it. It's like whatever, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, Borderlands is yeah, Borderlands is, I mean, yeah. Yeah, then Borderlands 3 happened and we all just i haven't played three yet but i've i was playing pre-sequel and pre-sequel just it felt like it was missing something it felt like it was borderlands 2 without the character why wasn't that an australian developer it was yeah things about it we have to pretend it's the best one isn't it that part of your is that what you have to do? No, I'll just pretend that like,

Tasmanian Tiger is the best game. I'm not going to do it for two games. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, Borderlands 2, I played 120 hours of. I love Borderlands 2,

it is amazing. I really enjoyed it, but with friends. I didn't enjoy it because it was great. I enjoyed it as a sandbox with friends. Right.

Borderlands 1, I played a total of like, 470 hours of that right do you like deserts as well and brown you know what borderlands one is the best borderlands game i know that's not a popular opinion but because like i think they had an actual gun mechanic system so that it rewarded you for playing the same weapon yeah i played pistols and i got to the point where i could just like shoot a pistol and a rocket would leave my chamber and that was like not game breaking that the game was built to let you do shit like that I know it was really I like for the last one. It's good knew what it was right in board last to the way

Like yeah, they're like that with the badass rather Which which was crap because it was the progression was so slow You didn't do better ammo two percent better damage like no You just get outside give yourself 10 million balance points and make the game a lot of fun but then borderline 3 came out and i played two hours eight minutes and stopped it's like they went they went people hate claptrap let's put more claptrap in it oh what are you doing though we know is annoying it's like you might know is annoying you still fucking annoy me.

I don't know how they ruined Claptrap after the first game. I enjoyed Claptrap in the first one. Then they were like, let's just... It's because there wasn't a lot of him. It was just enough to annoy you and then he fucked off

and he was like, that's good. Yeah, that's fair. Then Two Heels and Essential Character and pre-sequel, you could just play Claptrap. No. Yeah, no. No. Pre-sequel had

terrible, like, it had great visuals, you know, by borderline. It was a step up visual-wise. Some of the systems, like, the thing we could jump up and slam down was a good system, right? But then they went, we also never read a book on level design. Oh, God, the hub area

in Pre-Seq was so fucking boring. It's like, hey, you want to run across the moon for 10 minutes? Like, no, stop it. I mean, in real life, yes, I want to do that. I totally want to run across the moon for 10 minutes, but not in video games. I've done that. It's boring.

That'd be amazing in real life, though. Anyway, sorry. Tangent. Yeah, no, I agree. But also, like, it's boring um yeah that'd be amazing don't realize that anyway sorry tangent yeah yeah no i agree uh but also like also like borderlands one two well borderlands one wasn't so bad but two in the pre-sequel it's like you do like a whole let's say dungeon mission whatever your area and then you have to walk back to the entrance which is so fucking boring they needed a button to like take me home like just exit but's called jump off the map. Yeah, I mean, that's what we all did. But when your solution is to find a place to leap off the map,

because it's quicker than walking back, like maybe a return home button, like a little item. Yeah. Like a single use item. You can use it once, and then you have to recharge it. You know, make it expensive, whatever.

But yeah, give me some way to just leave a fucking map for the last. No. To be fair, I haven't played enough 3 to find out if that's still a problem, but I assume they fixed it because it's a big problem. All I know about 3 is it looks kind of cool and all the

Borderlands games look kind of cool. Yeah, the Borderlands 3s. It's like all the worst things about Borderlands. I know that's one thing people say and it's a bit fashionable saying and all fashionable saying all that but no it's uh it is it is it is one of them where like they just took all the things people didn't like and doubled down on it and it's it's weird um and also my seems on that thing where i tried to get support on three page when was he born so obviously i selected 1900 but then it didn't undraw the box the drop down box

right so i'm like looking right now and I'm not on the Steam page. I've just got this fucking drop-down box just hanging out on the page, which is ludicrous. I'm going to send you a link. Yeah, send me a link. Oh, crazy. Look at that shit. Look at that shit.

Oh, wow. It's hanging out on the Steam page. Okay. Oh, God. Oh, that's lovely. Yeah, just, just, that's there now. And it's not just the Borderline page. It's all that's the whole of steam now

It's got that. Oh geez. Oh, yeah, no exit steam and reload it to get rid of that good good work Wait, it asked you does always ask you for your age if you're logged into steam Just never yeah, why steam? Why do you do that? No stop dumb? I've told how many times I have to tell you I bought it in 1900. I'm looking at screenshots of three, and it has the same sort of style as Borderlands, but that's what you'd expect.

Visually, it's fine. The visuals are not a problem. You've got way more Claptrap, way more annoying jokes that you can't skip. They stick there. The first portion of the game takes place on Pandora, which is the same place as the...

Oh, right, yeah. Three, you go around the galaxy, don't you? Yeah, yeah. But it starts off in Pandora, which is the most boring place to be. The version of Pandora there, it's like...

Because I've played three games on Pandora. I'm done with Pandora at this point, so it's just tedious now. It kind of would have made sense if they did You know, started a little later We're done with Pandora, Pandora's done We've got the vault twice Let's leave I mean, to be fair to them

After about two hours you do leave But then I was like, oh look, I'm on another fucking tedious planet But the first part you go through is like cyberpunk visuals And it's a bit nicer But then it's just like a bit of a barren wasteland it's like oh it's just it's a waste it's a city desert instead of a desert desert so yeah yeah they seem to really like just open wastelands pre-sequels the moon one you had an actual desert two you had an ice desert i mean things in one though that desert at least least it was interesting. It wasn't just the desert.

They'd added a few things to it. It just, you know, they'd made it cool. They'd made a cool desert. Okay. I... So one of my mates told me that I'd played all the way through one with him. I couldn't remember doing that. It just left my mind.

That's how much I enjoyed Borderlands 1. That's the thing with 1. You're right. 1 is not a very memorable game, but it's a very satisfying shooter with interesting mechanics. And it's a role-play shooter in the same way the others are.

It's less role-play and it's a more solid shooter. And that's what I want in my shooters. If someone said to me, I want to play Borderlands, and I'd say no. But said to me, do you want to play Borderlands? And I'd say, no. But if they said, do you want to play Borderlands 1 specifically?

I'd be like, yeah. Yeah, all right, I'll do that. I'm up for that. But yeah, I think that's... That's just because I really... I like the shooting mechanics quite a lot. I was happy to be in them shooting mechanics. Yeah, you're probably right about that.

They should have expanded upon the gun proficiency system rather than completely scrapping it. Rather than just taking it out, yeah. Because I thought the gun proficiency might find its way back to Borderlands 3. And I was excited. Excited is the wrong word.

But I was like, yeah, that sounds cool. Bring it back. No, as far as I can tell, it's just not in there. As far as I can tell. Well, speaking of games that you love, tell me about Skyrim. Why skyrim's such a bad game i i didn't hear your take on this i mean okay so i'm not like this isn't a crusade or anything right but like like skyrim's like i've like i've got skyrim's not fun right like it's not it's so

fucking but the opening's cool right but also very boring like it's cool while simultaneously i'm going i just want to i just want to get my mouse back i just want to i just want to do something um and then you do something and then it goes here's big old boring place and you go off from and the reason you have to use fast travel is because their world is so fucking boring you don't want to walk through it and you know and then you see i see people who've got like nine million hours in skyward i'm like do you not know about oblivion or morrowind or literally any other game like i don't understand you know um but yeah it's not it's not it's not like i've got you know i'm not grinding i've got some like you should you should talk to drew and chris man they

fucking they'll tell you about skyrim you should come on you should come out trendy talk podcast now they'll fucking tell you about skyrim jesus yeah yeah i'm happy to do that um but it's no it's going like oblivion like like morrowind was you know it's an amazing game that's historically important right uh and then you got oblivion which is watered down but still charming in its own way even with all its stupid all of the stupid stuff in there still you can still stumble across shit and then skyrim is just a lot of emptiness with caves that don't go anywhere do anything yeah and it's just and it's like and he's very consolified as well the interface is very constantly you know i wasn't agreeing with you beforehand but i think you're onto something here that's the thing when i say things about games i've thought about it i've used to ruin games ruined game you love. There you go.

I put, I think, 300 hours in Skyrim, so. Yeah, and I bet like when you're honest, like you'll say hour 30 was the same as hour 300.

Like it's just other than that. I've got 59 hours logged, right, on Steam and I've played it on consoles. And I just like,

it's fine. Well, to be fair, I played it on PS3, so a good part of the hundred hours was loading screens about 200 dollars probably loading screens on ps3 then also on ps3 the game was buggy as hell so I think my first save no my second no no no that wasn't on ps3 that's Bethesda at work no no, no. This was a PS3 specific bug.

On... Okay, so on my second save, it actually was one of the story missions, soft locked. So there was like one where you had to like put a claw thing in a wall.

And if you did that, it was supposed to open. It didn't open. You restart the game, didn't open. Leave, come back, didn't open. Never opened. Okay. Recently, open. Leave, come back, didn't open. Never opened. Okay. Recently I had that. I don't know if I've might have told you this before. I tried playing

Warhammer Chaosbane with a friend online, right? Have you played Warhammer Chaosbane? If you've not played it, it's essentially Diablo 3. It's Diablo 3, right? I mean, I like these sorts of games, especially like co-op stuff, right you know my buddy was like yeah right okay so we did a mission that took us 40 minutes and we got to the end and we couldn't figure out how to exit and we're like well how do we how do we finish this mission um after literally an hour we weren't on we were on youtube and then we watched someone's playthrough we're like okay okay we did that fast forward we did that yeah i think it then I talked to this guy. It's like, where's the guy?

Where's the guy? Where the fuck's the guy? And the guy hadn't spawned up, right? Which is like in itself quite annoying, right? And then we was like, okay, we'll give it another chance. So we did the mission again. It worked. Turns out to be a five minute mission

when you've got the guy to talk to. And we goes on to the next mission. And my's there he picks the mission i goes where's the mission from he's like this woman right here i'm like where is she and he goes and he shows me a screen i'm like i'm literally like there's no one there on my screen um yeah three hours in that game we just both were like you know what no no and that those are fucking books i hate that when a book we don't know a game is bugged and you just like have i done something wrong is it me you know like at least if at least when skyrim bugs it goes nope i'm fucked you know at least at least it knows well to tell you that but yeah don't play charisman with friends it might be fine in single player but i just did not want to play in single player but don't yeah

well it has very mixed reviews so i bet i mean i'm guessing there is customer bugs because it is horrendous uh let's see if no if not for a big uh big ass warhammer blast on the game banner no one would care no one cares but warhammer's not like warhammer give a license if i wanted to make a warhammer again they'd give me a license the war Warhammer name is just, at this point, it's like saying space, isn't it? It's like, it's just such a thing. It's just such a huge thing that no one cares about. So I love it when a game is buggy,

but not buggy in a way that breaks the game. Like, I was playing Kingdom Hearts the other day, and that game, man, I forgot how buggy the first Kingdom Hearts was. So, there was, I was going through Halloween Town, and this enemy decided to attack me, and then just jump off the map. Just like, okay, goodbye. Like, why did you do that?

Yeah, like, what literally just, like, just literally, like, flies away, or just runs off. Yeah, like what literally just like just literally like flies away or just runs off So this enemy that's got like it's got these like long arms and it can like sort of glide with them So like jump got stuck on a bit of the terrain and then just disappeared My two favorite boxing games that I've encountered right was Diablo 3 had a one but early on in Diablo 3 There's the little town with, and there's a guy who stabs you, right? Like a little NPC that stabs you, right? He got obsessed with me and followed me around for the rest of the game.

Like, he followed me around the entire zone just stabbing. And he's doing like one damage. And I'm like, I've got 200 hours left, mate. I don't care. He's just following me around. And I teleported away from the area.

I was good. I was playing with a buddy. I teleported away from the area and he just stops. He just turns to my buddy. He's just like, stab, with a buddy. I teleported away from the area, and he just stops. He just turns to my buddy. He's just like, stab. Stab. Stab.

I came back. He's like, oh, you're back. Stab. Stab. I don't know what happened there. We left the zone and came back, and it was fine. But he followed us all the way around the zone. We called him Stabby Joe, and we made him a member of our party.

It was just delightful. And then my next favorite bug is I played Star Trek, the Star Trek game. It was just called Star Trek. That was the game based off the new, the Abrams movies, right? And I played that with a buddy. And one time, Spock's head floated away.

Just his head. The rest of him was fine, but his head left. And then other times where like he was like my buddy was talking to me and he just starts sliding off the screen i'm like what you doing he's like i don't know why is the world moving away from me and he just slides off he was that game was just brilliant every time it crashed it was so fucked up that he didn't mind he was like i've just seen something that no human should see it's great it's great because that's probably why it's not on steam anymore fair enough because of your discord i i found a game called crystar and man crystar crystar is a game that

looks great in the first like five hours and i finished the fucking game i finished all three of the playthroughs and that game is so if you want a game that's boring so these are like hand designed levels but every level looks exactly the same yeah at that point i prefer procedural basically my discord if someone's recommended some ideas yeah um the first okay the first area is good it's once you realize every area is the first area that's when it's fucking boring. Basically, the way they differentiate the areas is they use a different coloured filter. So the first area is purple, then it's like white, and then it's dark, and then it's yellow. And they all look the fucking same. Doesn't help the combat

is just mind-numbing. If you want a game to win, you just press X. Literally just game where to win you just press x literally just press x to win every single fight i yeah but i i yeah but the reason i brought that up now is because the ai in that game is so so easy to break um So, the larger enemies don't have good pathfinding, so if there's an area that has a ledge, they will just try to follow you up the ledge, but can't

walk up ledges, and just stand there. So, you paid £50 for this? No, I got it half price. Okay, it's like, that's... What is it? It's like a spectacle fighter, is it? Sure, we'll call like a spectacle fighter is it or uh yeah sure we'll go call it spectacle fighter why not it seems to think it's a spectacle fighter female oh steam tags at work again action rpg female protagonist anime what is it though it's a spectacle fighter

without the spectacle oh so it's like a fighter yes just just make a spectacle fighter without the spectacle. Oh, so it's like a fighter. Yes. Just make a spectacle fighter with the most boring combat mechanics you've ever seen. It's like Bayonetta if she had backache sort of thing. Basically, yes. Also, half the characters are unplayable. So the first girl you get, she doesn't have any decent abilities until like 30 hours in the game. Second girl you get, her range is like, I don't know, two inches in front of her and she's unusable.

Then you eventually get a girl who's actually usable and then you play nothing but her. Then the last girl you get, her defense is so low that if you play her before like the 40 hour mark, you just get one shot by most things. that if you play her before the 40-hour mark, you just get one shot by most things. I want someone to clip the moment where you say, where you talk about the third girl you get is pretty usable because that goes out of context. Perfect. Someone's going to do it now.

Yeah. Good work, guys. DM me that, guys. But you could also softlock one of their late-game bosses because if... So the attack patterns were very very readable and this uh this boss wouldn't attack you until they got far enough away from you and their movement speed was the same as your running speed so if you just followed them they would never

attack you imagine that i did how did you beat the boss i got really close. He was uncomfortable. Also, the bus is a girl that turns into a bus. Because anime. Sorry. Did you say a bus? Yeah. Yeah, she got hit. Yeah, yeah. A bus.

So the whole premise of the game is basically everyone's super depressed because they've got shit lives. Like the main girl. This isn't a spoiler. It happens in the first five minutes. She dies. And then for reasons that i can't explain she kills her sister and then she her sister gets brought back to life then she kills her sister again and then she's like super depressed

for a while and then the next girl that comes in she's like yeah uh i got dragged down to the hell and my my baby died like what the fuck am i playing and everyone's like that everyone's just super depressed the entire game but the girl who turns into a boss you play the entire thing but I don't know I played it on stream oh yeah but the girl turned to a boss The reason she turned into a bus Is because she died in a bus crash She's like Okay Sure Christ I was shit

Also they So there's a girl who The entire game you think she's important So this is one of your party members You think she's important Because she's important and so this is one of your party members you think she's important maybe she's like uh because she's lost her memory maybe she's like a friend of the main character and didn't remember it no it turns out she's just like some random person that was never introduced prior to that point she's like okay just like a person cool wasted character

who in my discord recommended this and would you like i't remember. I think it was just some random person. Okay, I'll find out who it is and we'll ban them for you. No! We'll not recommend terrible games. It's probably Linus Paul. Linus Paul's got some playtime in it as well. Also, what's with the achievements

in this game? It's just 51 pictures of the same dog. Yeah. Yeah. They couldn't come up with achievement art they're just like here's a picture of the dog the dog actually no to be fair the dog's the best character um and it's a really old talk it lit oh that's the other thing there's one voice line for the dog. Every time. It's the exact same wolf. It's like, wolf.

And that's all. I love it when voice acts do that. You give a voice act a script and it goes, wolf. And it just goes, wolf. Like, make a bark sound and it says, wolf. Wolf. Every time that happened, I just had to go along with it. It was clearly a person doing the wolf. They didn't Woof. Every time it happened, I just had to go along with it. Because it was just...

It was clearly a person doing the woof. They didn't even get a dog doing it. Well, you get a human to make a bark sound. Voice actors do that, right? If you ask them. They can, but this guy couldn't. He probably could. He was like, I've read the script for this game.

So woof is all you're getting at me. When I got... Oh, the thing that sort of... Maybe I realized how're getting at me. When I got, oh, the thing that sort of, like, made me realize how great this game was, when I got the final credits, at the bottom, made with Unity. It's like, perfect. Oh, man, we can't diss Unity. Oh, Unity's fine. Okay, I love Unity, but it's also the game engine of, like, shit devs.

There are amazing games made with it. I feel bad for you like i always have a thing like where well i feel like the engine is not responsible for the game i know it is like yeah they have the built-in unity store that's why people do it yeah but uh this game is similar to games you've played tales of basaria and lacrimosa of dana and i'm like i don't believe this it's It's a JRPG. In a sense, it's a JRPG, maybe. Wait, let me grab something.

One sec. If he comes back with a dildo bat, I'm not really impressed. It's definitely going to be a dildo bat. He's gone. Okay, I can hear you. Oh, he can hear me. I should stop talking about a dildo bat. No one mentioned dildo bats. No one mentioned dildo bats. No, that's something different.

That's Saints Row. That's a good game. Here's a game that you don't like. Oh, man, did you play that? I love Tales of Berserker. It's so fucking good. Okay, well, I'm really glad then because maybe you can explain the fucking combat because it makes no sense.

Nonsense. Like, I want to fight, close in a video in the video I closed my eyes and I tapped X till I heard the wind sound Okay, to be fair the early game combat in that game is actually brainless like you you don't you think at all Didn't I put an auto every time I got the fight. I made a cup of tea Like I but the thing is the plot was really cool i wanted to like it but i was like it's so boring i i 100% agree with your take that uh velvet is an amazing character yeah she's really cool she's interesting cool but her head is so round what's that about i mean i've got quite a round

head i'm aware of that but like i'm I'm also not a protagonist in an anime girl game So you know Maybe I should be So the combat does get better Is it worth sticking with? If you don't enjoy the combat as it is You're not going to enjoy it later If you don't understand the combat system

When you have the other characters in your party It's going to get way worse Velvet is the easiest character to play I tried to understand the combat system when you have the other characters in your party it's going to get way worse velvet is the easiest character to play i tried to understand the combat system it wasn't i didn't purposely avoid the combat like i've tried to understand but i was like what you're saying is i can link it so that each button yes is an escalating car is a combo so each button is a combo button right so obviously i'm going to put all my most advanced attacks on one button and just spam that like and that and i so i was like i must be misunderstanding this because So each button is a combo button, right? So obviously I'm going to put all my most advanced attacks on one button and just spam that. So I was like, I must be misunderstanding this because that seems stupid.

So then I went online and watched some YouTube videos where people basically went, they're all combos. And I was like, well, that's not fun. That's just pushing X four times and then pushing X like four, four, four. Why not one, two, three, four? One, two, three, four. And I was like, that's it. Just tapping X.

Velvet is a weird character because Velvet's attack... Okay, so all of the characters play very differently. You had Rokuro on your party, didn't you? I don't know who that is. That was the ninja guy. Ninja guy? The samurai guy. You probably noticed he

played very, very differently to the way Velvet did. And was fucking awful to play probably well i did i wanted to play velvet because i actually liked her and i was like i want to play the lead character the character i'm exploring the world with is the one i want to play with right so that's it makes sense to me but yeah i just i just i really wanted to but because i like collecting all the little cat soul things that was cool so i like the setting that ability system is basically fundamental to making the combat actually

playable later in the game. Basically, your aim is to set up your combos so you can build up that gauge as quickly as possible. The thing with Velvet is all of her attacks build up that combo gauge, whereas other characters, some of their abilities are like

do a stun or do a poison things like that velvet does have things like that but a main thing is building up that gauge but when you get to people like actually Lafacette is really bad to play that's that's gonna be the caster a lot of his attacks are like incredibly slow it's a caster and a spectacle fighter that plays like it's in, like, WoW or something. So there are, like, attacks that have a five-second build-up to use, and it just doesn't work in the combat system. I think the only character that plays well in my mind is Eleanor,

who comes in way later because she kind of plays like Velvet does. Yeah, so you don't... I mean, I know you said you enjoyed it, but it sounds like you hate it. No, I enjoy... Okay, I enjoy playing Velvet. Velvet makes the game fun. Anyone else can go fucking die.

I don't care about them. Also, I just like the story. The story... The story is what held me. I kind of think that sometimes in JRPGs, not often, but in JRPGs, not often, but some JRPGs, Tales of Berserra being one of them,

I feel like it should be a mode where combat is auto-resolved in a very quick cutscene. That's called beginner mode. I feel like that, but I feel like that because I wanted the story, but I didn't want the combat. I missed out on the story

because I hated the combat. So just don't bother with combat. Just literally auto-resolve in two seconds. Just give me a cutscene that just goes win lose done oh you took this much damage you lost these many items you know because like i think that'd be it but yeah it's just the j for me like i can't stick with a game where i hate the combat yeah for the story what i'm going to be doing most of the time i'm going to be doing combat not story well the thing you said about the combat being pretty that's usually what holds me in a combat system.

I can ignore a shitty combat system if it looks good. Yeah. It looks like I'm doing loads. Look, I look amazing. And then when you go into like Velvet's like beast form, everything gets crazy. Yeah. It did look cool, I must admit.

I haven't installed. I've kept it installed because I'm like, I want to go back to it. But you've not said anything that's made me think the combat would be a good one. If you don't like the combat as it is, you will hate it. Once you learn it and if you like that system,

you'll enjoy it. If you don't enjoy it, when... The thing... Okay. The thing with how you're explaining the combat system, if that's how you look at the combat system, you will never enjoy it. Because it's going to feel like that the entire game. I mean, I feel like I look at the combat system, if that's how you look at the combat system, you will never enjoy it. Because it's going to feel like that the entire game. I mean, I feel like I look at the combat system like that because it is like that. Like, once you break it down to mechanics, that's exactly what it is.

It's a combat. It's a combo. You also just don't have many abilities to actually put in those slots. Later on, you actually do have a lot of stuff where you might want to have different things on the different chains. Where you might want to do a combo that starts XXx and then you want to go triangle triangle or something yeah no yeah no i get that but yeah it's i could see i could see the appeal of it but it seems like i spend more time planning my combat than doing my combat or would you like to understand that and it yeah and the jlpg i played before that was yeast night it was yeast eight the lacrimosa of dana which is like very fluid. Even though it's more simplistic,

it's fluid and fun. So to go from that over to Tal's Berseria was not really for me. Berseria probably has the best combat system I've played in the franchise. If you go to the earlier games, it's way worse.

Someone's going to tell me Zestiria has a great combat system. I think they're wrong, but... Yeah. No, you don't want to... No, you're wrong. They're wrong. They're wrong. Yeah, I think

I've had this on my radar for a while. The Lacrimosa of Gara is the best JRPG I've ever played. It's fucking great. It's got a great plot, excellent escalation, fun characters. It's got a great plot, excellent escalation, fun characters. It's not a game about saving the world. It's about getting off an island.

Like it's like, it's like, like you do, it does escalate past that, but like the objective of the characters is pragmatic and reasonable from the start. It's not like I'm going to take down the government to get revenge for my brother. You know, it's none of that shit.

It's just literally like we're dealing with problems as they occur because we want to stay alive and it's relatable in a way that jrpgs usually aren't and as it escalates beyond that by that point you're already invested in their lives and you know it gives you time to get on board um and then yeah you've got interesting environmental puzzles interesting set of characters um the progression is the gateway is done so that you need certain items to progress you've got a bit of metroid stuff going on and yeah it's it's essentially the perfect jrpg in my opinion i guess actually you would have gotten far enough in basaria to sort of work out where the plot was sort of going taking down the leader of the church defeating god general jrpg stuff no it's jrpgs like it starts off with i've stubbed my toe and ends with let's kill God. I mean, that's how JRPGs...

Why JRPGs have to end with killing God? And sometimes, it's like, we've got this problem and it's like, I've got to find some bread and it's like, oh, in order to find the bread, I must defeat Satan. It's like, whoa! Just buy some butter. Just go to the shop.

No, we will take on the hell itself. It's like, no, no, stop it, JRPGs. You don't always have to defeat God. That's why I really enjoy Kingdom Hearts, because it fully embraces that. Like, the first game, you're like, how many times can we say fucking darkness in this game? Oh,

okay, we've killed a guy who's trying to, like, take over the door to light. Oh, King Mickey's in the door. Okay. Turns out there's two Keyblades now. Oh, there's time travel. What?

Why is there time travel? Why is, why is, why is the, okay. So here's, here's this new dude. We don't know what his, who he is. Rocks. Oh, he's actually, he's actually Sora, but Sora lost his heart. Now he's like Sora's nobody. Oh, okay.

Now we have the same antagonist as the first game but now it's the nobody rather than the heartless version oh third game's here oh everyone is the same person literally everyone is xehanort xehanort came from the past he came from the future he came from like taking over someone's body what is happening i don't know video that said kingdom hearts lore as fast as possible and it was two hours long i was like i looked at it i was like have i missed it is that two minutes i did that thing where i cleaned my glasses and came back to it i was like no no that's a two-hour video and like that i was like no that that that sounds amazing but i want no part of it no kingdom hearts okay it's a game

where if you don't understand anything that's happening, it's still fun, because the combat is really fun. It's Smash X to win, but it's beautiful combat, and if you play on the harder difficulties, you actually do have to, like, think about what you're doing, but, um, if you care about

the lore, you can get very deep into this game that makes no sense. Nomura just makes stuff up as he goes this is what would happen if the final fantasy games all connected to each other i'd be up for that it's so fucking like you know what i don't know i don't know if i said this last time i was on your show right but like like final fantasy has no business being the number one jrpg the yeast games are better in every way you can measure and no one's fucking heard of them it's like so weird but they're so good and it's like i don't understand all the law kind of connecting ways that make sense because they're all essentially the the premise is that all of

the yeast games are entries in a diary that someone has found so someone's reading the diary of this ancient hero um so you don't really know when the game's actually set it's all done you know every game is a different flashback essentially so they can jump around time and they don't need to explain things but they can also if they want draw another game right problems and that frees them up to do so these games are so much better than final fantasy you know on every level of the visuals obviously because final fantasy games are fucking beautiful and these games look like they were stood on so So, you know. Yeah, I'm looking at screenshots right now. It looks like an early PS3 game.

It does. They look awful, but they're great. So, you know. But they haven't got the budget of Final Fantasy. Yeah, that's fair. I don't get Kingdom Hearts. I'm looking at Kingdom Hearts screenshots and there's some JRPG folks and Donald Duck? Yeah, so...

Why? Okay, Donald Duck and Goofy are, like, in the main party. And... Why? Because Disney. Why? The Disney stuff doesn't matter. It actually literally does not matter to the plot.

It's just like, hey, Disney worlds. Basically, you just go around the universe, saving Disney problems. Like, in the first game, you visit Wonderland to go see, you know, it's Alice in Wonderland. Then you go to meet Tarzan. Then you go meet Jack Skellington. Then you go meet, where else do you go?

Oh, you go meet Pinocchio. And literally none of the Disney stuff matters. It's the Final Fantasy characters and Nomura's acid trip That is the main story Right Yeah You've explained Kingdom Hearts and I'm more confused Than I was before you started That's how it feels

The more you know about this game the less it makes sense I'm a Kingdom Heart Also on one of the screenshots Daffy Duck is a blue cyclops You mean Donald Duck? I don't know the Duck. In the third game, you go to the Monster Zinc World.

Right. Okay. I also feel like I just got a little bit of shade thrown for not knowing my ducks. I don't know how to deal with that. But no, so yeah, Kingdom Hearts. Okay, I'll which is i don't know i don't know how i don't know how to deal with that but no so yeah kingdom hearts okay i'll explain one part of kingdom hearts that just makes the game

just nonsense so there was a game called dream drop distance which was oh i need to get my notepad so this game was sort of important because the main character and his best friend, they were trained to become the new Keyblade Masters. What's a Keyblade Master? The Keyblade is the main important weapon. All the important people have Keyblades. It's a key on a sword. That's all you need to know about a Keyblade. It unlocks things.

Wait, this is how my mom feels when I talk about Star Trek, isn't it? I think so. Okay. Anyway, yes, Keyblades. And you go to the sleeping worlds, which are like the regular worlds, but they've been absorbed by the darkness. The darkness is just like the blanket term for everything bad. So you go to these things, you do things in worlds, you become, you leave, you become a Keyblade

Master or you don't become a Keyblade Master, all that stuff happens. But this game wasn't like super important to the plot until a mobile game came out called Kingdom Hearts Union Cross. Now, when Union Cross finished, it turns out that all of, like, the enemies in the sleeping worlds were actually, like, the people from the past, and they've been sent to sleep in the sleeping world so they can, like, I don't know, fight in a future Keyblade War or something. So throughout that entire game, basically, you're just murdering children, and you're, like, super happy happy about it because tetsuya nomura

um i mean kingdom hearts as i said this is what will happen if nomura was allowed to make all the final fantasy games connect to each other uh yeah i i i think at some point my brain stopped being able to process anything you were talking about then i just was like nope i literally can't do it yeah you don't want me to start explaining as they are not and what norting means then i'm enjoying that you follow this that you're actually like you're you're on board with the law of this i'm enjoying that you're like you're you're fired up as fuck it makes me curious it's like they're not out of the switch though are they i can't get these games off the Switch, can I? No, there's...

This actually pissed me off. There's a PC release and it uses really shitty DRM and you can't run it on Linux. Is it not on... It's on the Epic Store. Is it not on GeForce Now? Maybe. I don't know.

I'm going to check. I'm going to check. I'm going to go to GeForce Now right now And type in Kingdom Hearts I wanted to play it on Linux But the DRM, yeah, it's just a mess It's not on GeForce Now Maybe one day Yeah, not on GeForce Now

Pretty soon all the games in the world are geforce now i'm waiting for i'm waiting for when geforce now goes fuck it when i playstation 2 games as well yeah i didn't really care about geforce now a while back so give why should i care about geforce now what's so great about it okay? Okay, so streaming as a thing, streaming as an implementation. Okay, now let's pretend that streaming as an implementation is perfect. So in the theory

of a perfect connection. But let's pretend for the sake of argument. So there's a game you want to play. It's 100 gig. You don't want to install it, right? So you own it already on Steam. So you open up GeForce Now on a web page, and you go type in the name of the game. It goes, oh, this game is available on GeForce Now.

You go, I've grown on Steam. So you tick the little box that says Steam. You hit play. It logs into your Steam account where the game is instantly available, and suddenly you're playing the game, right? And then the downside being that it's not perfect all the time,

and there is sometimes some artifacting and some latency not as much as you think, I played pretty much the whole of Biomutant in GeForce Now, like it was fine and the other problem is it's limited to 1080p I just used 1080p anyway it's a shame it's limited because

it's more the ultra wide resolutions and stuff, it's not as good as those but yeah, I'm essentially stuck at 1080 which is a nightmare on my screen because it's more the ultra-wide resolutions and stuff. It's not if it's supported those. But yeah, I'm essentially stuck at 1080, which is a nightmare on my screen. Not a nightmare, but yeah, it's a problem on my screen. But yeah, and mostly the latency is good enough that I don't really notice it most of the time. It's no worse than playing on a controller,

like on an Xbox or something. It's fine. I wouldn't want to play Counter-Strike on there, but a third-person single player game is fine but GeForce Now the joy of it is unlike other services with Stadia or with one of the other services I have to buy the game on their service

GeForce Now for whatever it is a month they're giving you access to their infrastructure when you supply your own games so I buy a game on Steam I play on GeForce now and I don't have to give them any... I've got no

buy-in with them. If they go away, it doesn't matter, I still own my games. That gives you more confidence with it as well as lets you use the wider stream infrastructure which makes life easy for some Linux people. All our friends are on Steam and if you've ever tried to play a multiplayer game and one person's on Steam and one person's on Origin,

you're like, nope, that's not working. Whereas GeForce Now lets you use Steam, so you don't have that problem. It's not a separate platform like that. But it's good because it's been getting better. Genuinely, it's about... I played pretty much the whole of Biomeetings in it and it was fine.

I have no problems with it. I've only played Cyberpunk in GeForce Now as well because it's like two million gig and i don't want to keep it installed so i just use geforce now uh it's fine uh it's not for everyone because obviously a lot of people have got connections that can't do it and a lot of people live in areas where it's not available but it is available in my area my connection is good enough and if it goes on geforce now i don't really bother installing it usually because i can just play geforce now um yeah so it's nice and it's it's a reasonable price and it's and as much as people talk about the future of streaming being bad geforce now is good because it's traveling that because you're you still own your games and all the arguments against streaming

don't exist it's just your games as much as you really own your games with steam well i mean i've always i've made the argument that that's you don't own a game like unless you are less like i own my switch games because i hold them in my hand right like they're cartridges but if you don't own a disc or a cartridge you don't own the game and steam even steam the steam subscriber agreement is called that because you're a subscriber to ownership of the game like you don't you don't actually it's not your game really right but yeah like g but yeah geforce now like people don't want to buy games on stadia in case stadia closes right yeah well if geforce now closes you've still got your games so it doesn't matter so it's it's better for that reason but again there's a lot of if you've got a really powerful

pc running windows you'll probably won't need geforce now but if you're on linux and there's some games you're like like i really like i don't know it's terrible but i really like that game paladins right we like paladins fun it's like overwatch but not and it's it's kind of fun it's trash but i like it um that just doesn't work on linux just you can't get it working because the drm what the anti-cheat thinks the wine is a cheat program so i just use geforce now for it and it's fine and i've played like 70 hours in geforce now i've never really had a problem but you know at the same time i'm fairly sure if i played counter-strike i'd know the latency was there yeah no that's not a game i'd want to play on that or anything where just anything where latency is important like you know a rhythm game

for example you know what the rhythm games are interesting because rhythm games this was true uh thumper on stadia right they adjusted the latency in real time to account for network latency so they literally tweaked the game tweaked the latency so it felt like there was no latency even when there was because the game tweaked the timings to make it to account for that i'm like that's fucking smart it's so fucking smart that is like that is exactly what we should be doing with these games yeah that's actually yeah i didn't so fucking smart. That is exactly what we should be doing with these games. Yeah, that's actually... Yeah, I didn't think of that. I feel like most games you can do that because there's like different latency

with your audio setup and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, in the case, I mean, GeForce now tends not to have special optimizations for their platform. They're just introducing that into games recently. Right.

But yeah, I'm fairly certain most people, if you've got a good connection and you're running your monitor native 1080 if i was to load up a game on geforce now and sit you at my desk and you just used it i don't think you tell the difference between geforce now and local i don't think most people can tell the difference um like if you're good enough at a game or it's something where server takes going to really matter so there are times when you might tell but like most game most people aren't gonna tell like genuinely like i was playing biometans i just forgot i was on geforce now more than once i was just like oh shit my geforce now yeah it wasn't something i thought about but then you

have the problem where you're streaming and all of a sudden someone in your house looking at my daughter decides she wants to watch crunchy roll at one o'clock in the morning while i'm fucking fighting the boss and my frame rate just tanks like no oh yeah but yeah other than the caveats but like when it works well like um like uh i've played a hundred hours or so of uh i think might be less actually i play the only time i've ever played uh warhammer vermin tie 2 is on geforce now i've never played it not Vermintide 2 is on GeForce Now. I've never played it not on GeForce Now. And I've never really had a problem.

Like, it's never been an issue. Sometimes on a Friday night, when it's prime time and the servers are really busy, it'll be a soft image, because it's obviously they're saving Mammoth on their end. But it's not soft to the point of unplayable. I've never not been able to play because I'm on GeForce Now, right? And that game, again, doesn't work on Linux,

so it's a perfect one to play. Hmm. You know what? That sounds fairly compelling because I've only heard... I think the GeForce Now model works way better than the Stadia model, that's for sure. Absolutely, yeah. There have been streaming services in the past besides Stadia,

and they all had the stadia model. On live. Yeah. On live. Yeah. Actually, one of the, I don't know if you heard about this.

I, I am on Twitter probably too much. Um, the dev for Terraria originally wasn't going to bring the game to stadia because his account, like with Google play just got banned out of nowhere. He's like, fuck you guys.

Then I'm just not going to do it. I think he eventually decided to do it because Terraria makes... Well, he made it too public, so they had to fix that problem. So they probably gave him a lot of money to bring it. So yeah, they probably paid him off at that point. That was a very small dev team and it's made a shitload of money. It'll work for the rest of their lives. You say that, but if someone's pissed off and you offer them a million pounds, they're suddenly less pissed off.

I don't know how much we're eating on the bank. How much did Terraria make? I think I looked this up a while ago. It sold like a billion copies, didn't it? It did sell like a billion copies recently. Probably. No, I think you think of Minecraft. Apparently, according to this year,

Terraria sold 35 million copies. 35 million, okay, I thought it was more than that. Yeah, Minecraft is... Microsoft could literally just never do anything else besides just sell Minecraft copies and they'd be fine. They don't, do they? I can't think of a single other Microsoft product. Hey, they've got the new Windows thing coming! No, I don't know what you're talking about. I actually don't know anything about this oh oh what the fuck is this I just looked at it what is this I just looked at a picture of the Windows 11 whatever it's gonna be cool I hear about

this but you didn't know you don't know about this oh no I heard about this no I heard about it haven't looked at it because I just don't care. I did. I was interested. I was interested for a couple of reasons. Okay, so this is where we go off the game. It goes all serious, right? Okay, prepare yourself, audience.

Prepare. I've been saying, when I said this originally, it was edgy, and it was considered to be nonsense. But now when I say it, it's reasonable, and people go, well, everyone's saying that. Well, yeah, I was saying it first, you fucks, right? It's only a matter of time before. At the moment, you've got Windows got windows you've got the wsl and i'll swap them over at some point right i'll just make it so that so it's a linux and it's emulating windows where at the moment it's windows emulating linux i'll slowly swap that

over and it'll become a distro of linux right i honestly when i heard that was going windows 11 i was like is this the moment is this when they're swapping the code they're swapping the order of things i was like if it is that's fucking interesting so i went and looked at it no it's not it's not it's just all they've done is put a new skin on windows set and windows 10 and called it windows 11 for marketing reasons right that's it the only thing i'm saying obviously it's just early screenshots the only thing i'm seeing right now is it's windows 10 with like a start bar in the center. They tried to do the macOS sort of taskbar, but then kept the Windows start bar for some reason,

or start menu. Yeah, I think they've modernized it, because a lot of design trends, especially stuff that GNOME is doing as well as Mac, there's a lot of design trends about centering things, so that regardless of how big your screen is that centerpiece is always in the center so so the geometry doesn't change which helps you build the muscle memory as well as like no you know because if you if you suddenly have a wider monitor instead of your eyes going here

they go here now right so to put things in the center is better it's better ux right it's better it's better experience to have things always be an expected place by centering no matter how wide your screen is. And also, as we get infinitely scalable width, because some people are on an ultra-wide, some people are on a super ultra-wide. It's only a matter of time before the super, super ultra-wide is a thing, right? So if you have your start bar way over there, you've got to take your mouse and be like this to get to your start button, right, to get over there. So put it in the center. That's naturally where your mouse is going to rest.

And there are reasons for that that make sense to me from a UI point of view. And also, adding rounding corners globally sounds like a small thing, but that puts it more in line with tablet voices. I didn't even notice those. Oh, there are. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Because, like, if you look at any phone, if you look at my phone, I'm just going to make sure I'm not showing anything on my phone here. I'm going to regret. So, you put your phone there, right? So, you've got your phone. You'll notice all I'm not showing anything on my phone here, I'm going to regret. So you put your phone there, right?

You'll notice all phones have rounded corners, right? Right. So that design language then transfers over to Windows 11 so that when Windows 11 is running on Android devices or mobile devices, they can have an application like Excel on a mobile, and then when they put it on your desktop, your brain doesn't notice any difference. It feels comfortable, and that's a very subtle psychological thing they're doing there which is smart and i like it's clever right and it's good it's good attention to detail for ux i think the changes

have made a good solid changes right um but other than that it looks like a refreshed skin on top of windows 7 i would not be surprised if under the hood, it is literally just Windows 10. I mean, the kernel number has been released, right? You can see the kernel number. It's like 10.136 or something. They haven't even incremented the version number massively

to reflect it, so it's not a fundamental change. The article here is actually the one I read earlier. They're bringing about desktop widgets and stuff, which is something that Microsoft have been in love with the idea of sidebars and widgets, but never quite nailed it.

Oh yeah, they did this on Vista, didn't they? Yeah, but the sidebar on Vista was kind of smart. But the problem with the sidebars is it occupies physical space I want to use for my applications. So then they slide it away. And then it's like, when do you slide it back? No one's got the right idea by embedding that information in a top bar,

and then when you press the super button, it gives you an overview mode. That's a better way of doing it, where Windows, even Windows 7, 10, sorry. 10, 7. Yeah, Windows 7 started off with this, where you could put Windows tab key instead of alt tab, and it put you in an overview mode, right? The problem with it is that didn't present itself as a separate mode

so much as an overlay on top of it. So if they nail that a bit more, I think there's a lot of design stuff. It seems like Microsoft has suddenly, it's like very suddenly gone, oh shit, we can do this. They've suddenly got good at the very little things which affect the experience overall. And I think that's because

they're taking Mac more seriously and they suddenly have to care more, right? Because even Linux now is pretty, right? We used to be a nerdy hole filled with terminals, and suddenly we've got GNOME and KDE, and not Plasma even. Well, I'll argue that GNOME doesn't look good, but that's just more of a personal preference.

No, it doesn't look good to but that's just more of a person preference. No, no, it doesn't look good to us because I'm on XFC, I'm on BSPWM right now with neon pink borders. Sure, yeah. And I fullscreen everything regardless, right? And then my other machine over there, I'm using XFCE

on, right? Because it's trash and I like it because it looks like Windows 95. I like it. I'm not Windows 95. I like it. I'm not after that. And to people like us that live in Linux and we pipe things together with the terminal, we don't care about looks, but the masses do. One of the things about GNOME is if you're

one of the people that cares about design, if you're an artiste who cares about design and cares about the flow of information and stuff, GNOME's really good. And Plasma's, the new version of Plasma's getting better as well. But GNOME is like out of the box. It's just perfect for that, right? And Windows and Microsoft now look around

and they go, shit, we've got GNOME on Linux where the fucking nerds was. And it looks really good. And then the other side, we've got OS X 10, 11, 1, or whatever it is. And they look fucking great. And then they look back at Linux and they go, oh shit, elementary OS is a thing. And then they look back at this and go, oh shit, elementary OS is a thing.

And then they look back at Mac and go, oh, well, they can install desk environments as well now. And Microsoft have to answer that, right? Because one of the questions they must be receiving, because I see it on forums a lot, is how to get known working on Windows, right? And they're like, we're giving them tools to make us useless.

We're training them not to use our tools. So they have to start caring about it. They don't have a choice. I would think if I had to bet, I would say that they've probably made the UI modular, which is what's bringing about the version increase so that in the future, they can start using other desktop environments.

I've been saying for ages, and again, back when I said this originally, it was considered to be nonsense and now it seems very reasonable. But it's only a matter of time before Microsoft Windows is a distribution of Linux with built-in emulation. That's just a matter of time before they make Microsoft make their own version of Wine that's perfect, DRM, kernel hooks, all of that stuff in their own. And it's just a binary blob called Windows, and you install the Linux distro, which is the Windows, or you install, you pull the Windows package down on another distro, and you get

their UI, and you can launch Microsoft applications in only a matter of time. And that seems obvious now, because it's very expensive to make an OS. It's pointless to maintain an OS. Because you think, every time a driver comes out, they've got to deal with that in one department, right? Like, one department

has to deal with that. Where Linux, a one department has to deal with that where linux a manufacturer makes you drive they push it upstream the the cogs turn and it comes out the other end but there's still individuals involved but there's a there's there's all these hundreds of thousands of people working on it microsoft has to pay those people to do it right so they're in there they're already and as you said they're making so much money on minecraft why fuck with this this is not a good money spinner for. The only reason they care about it is to maintain dominance. And if they can maintain dominance by making Windows an interface and then putting one on top, they don't have a choice. They have to do it long term.

It's just the only thing that makes sense from a business point of view. Capitalism forces them to use Linux because it's free. They don't have a choice. Add all the design stuff to this, and I think someone in Microsoft is making the prep for that switch. And I think this is the first step and that will be separating the UI from the OS.

So you're effectively just making Windows operate the exact same way they have the Xboxes operate anyway where it's just a VM. You have your base OS and then VM. Yeah, I think it'll be a desktop environment. And it will be locked down

to the point where if you want to use their compatibility, you have to use their UI. We'll hack around that, let's face it. Of course, yeah. It'll essentially spin up Docker containers with hardware access and some emulation, some hypervisor stuff. And then you'll run the application on your Linux and it'll just pull in the Windows vm and just like the windows vm will be like a static thing

it just accesses that to run it um and people go that's not possible because this this is they've got the source code for windows they can make this happen there's no reason why they can't you know they've got all the code they can do it and it's cheaper to do that and then not be responsible for security patches long term because then you let the linux take care of the security for free because that's not cheap right that's not cheap uh you can even have them supported by your own developers right but you can say well they could always make like um what's well what look like good donations to the linux foundation it's just like here's a small a small donation relative to what windows is actually getting from this but it looks good

yeah if they've got 10 000 developers which they probably have globally microsoft they can they can drop a thousand developers they can still donate like 10 000 pounds a month to to linux and be saving money on tax like they they could absolutely save money by donating more money and having less developers. And it's never good when developers are out of work, but they'll find other jobs. It's like they'll find other jobs.

They'll be fine. But yeah, I think long-term, they have to move this way. I think that I would be surprised if we don't see that start to happen because there must be... I mean, the reason they've gone from 10 to 11 is simply marketing.

It's because Mac have got OS X, whatever it is, and they want a bigger number. That's the reality. They want to move that way. If you're going to have a sudden change of UI, give people a warning by telling them the version number,

then they won't be like, oh, they've changed it. They'll go, oh, I've got a new version. It's changed. I don't think they'll get away with changing it again because they changed it from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 layout.

We had that for years. And they tweaked it with Vista and everyone hated it. And they came up with Windows XP and everyone loved it. And Windows 7 was an evolution of that and they liked it. And they tried Windows 8 with that Metro UI, which people basically was rioting in the streets over, which was fucking funny. I never use 8.

I only use 8.1. Yeah. And now they've gone back to, to with 10 they went back to a more standard design. Yeah, it seems like they've taken 7 but modernized the UI Yeah, and then with 11 they've made, it seems like

a small shift to us because we're tech savvy but to someone who works in Office and only uses Excel, they're like, shit, I'll start from the middle all these little things that to us are like nothing will be quite large changes. I don't think they can get away with another fundamental UI shift. I was looking through screenshots.

You can put it on the left side if you really want to. Oh yeah, but no one will. The defaults are king. No one will mess with defaults. And a lot of office employees, my own office included, like a lot of people who work in offices and stuff, they don't have the ability

to change any setting in Windows, right they are stuck with faults so then defaults will be what 90% of users are going to use and and you know and most people will if they if they're stuck with it at work won't change it at home yeah it's the same experience so yeah i think the ui's the ui defaults are important and yeah i i think that this i don't think they can get away with another change i think they're stuck here now they're stuck with they're not going to get away with it again and i'll be surprised if there's not people complaining about this one to be honest oh that would be complaining for sure but i ultimately like we've talked a lot about windows i don't think it's funny because i don't think either of us actually give a shit do we not really no i'm never gonna

run it yeah oh you're saying before about the uh you know what? You say you're never going to run it, right? But if all of a sudden Windows is just a Linux distro, right? Yeah, and you can play all the games on Windows and it's still, it's just Linux. It's going to be hard not to install it at some point. You're going to go, fuck it. Yeah, let's just make life easy. Let's just go, you know.

I don't know. I think there's a good chance Windows can increase dominance by switching to Linux. I think a lot of nerds like us might go, fuck it, let's do it. If you can install Microsoft Linux, right? And then throw BSPWM or whatever desktop you're using on top of it.

So you've got all the tools you currently use. You might have to learn a new package manager. But other than that, it's the same. Well, they've got Winget now and that's becoming usable. Is that like a package manager? Yeah, they've introduced a package manager because developers actually wanted one, and they were like, oh, yeah.

Makes sense, yeah. Yeah, we should probably do that. Yeah, so if you've got Microsoft Linux, and you can do everything you can normally do, and the bonus of running all the games, why wouldn't you? Actually, the thing with WinGet is they didn't actually do it. There's questions of whether what they did is actually legal

because there was another program here called AppGet maybe, not AppGet AppGet I think and they took it's eerily similar to that application but it's proprietary whether they stole the code or just re-implanted it

I don't know I mean depending on how that was licensed they might be legally yeah I'm not sure how it was licensed but yeah it's like yeah you know yeah it's complicated but yeah Microsoft are not the enemy they once were right and that's a result of the capitalistic game right because it's

like it's not in their best interest to be our enemy anymore right it's in their best interest to work with us because we're winning. I say we as like we're a team, but you know what I mean? Like the Linux way of doing things is becoming the standard way for smart people to do things. So Microsoft have no, it's not in their best interest

to fight with us. They're not the enemy they once were. I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Well, I don't exactly, okay, my problem with running Windows 10 is the fact that they're still going to have the... Whatever the Windows 11, whatever they end up calling it. I don't think they're going to get rid of the surveillance stuff.

That's my big problem with it. No, but once they become a Linux distro, we'll just have an AUR package called Windows and you put it down and that's your desktop environment. That's all they'll do. And they'll just purge all that from the source code. Or they'll isolate it in a VM. Going forward, I wouldn't run Windows because i don't want to run windows right but if windows is linux linux is editable and testable and teak intackable right

so you could of course fix these problems and it'll only be a matter of time before someone makes that standard the status script like you install windows run a script that fixes all the telemetry stuff right um but at the same time, for me personally, I want to trust my OS provider. Like, when I pull down a package in Arch, I don't trust that because it's from Arch, where if I see Microsoft, I'm going to go, what are you up to, you shifty fucks? That's fair. Yeah. But, you know, overall, I don't think you can say I've never run Windows anymore

because I think at some point, you'll just be making life hard for yourself by not installing their shit. I think that's the most compelling argument for why Microsoft would do that. Because I've heard some things about like, oh, Microsoft's going to swap out the kernel for Linux and they don't really give a proper explanation for why.

It's just like, well, if they did that, if they did that, it'll just break everything. But that's an explanation of translation layer or having a VM or something like that. for why it's just like well if they did that it'll just break everything but that yeah you know an explanation of like translation layer or having a vm or something like that i mean that could proven proton has proven that translation layers can be exactly fast enough to get the job done right yeah exactly um so just do it the other way all they do and they've got access to the source code we haven't got the access we don't have the access to make a perfect version of wine if they had access with the source code.

And they could do it in about a week. They could go from nothing to a perfect version in a week because they would just throw a shitload of developers at it and all the source code they'd ever want. Because look how good Wine is and DXBK and Proton, right? We did that by reverse engineering over the period of years, right?

You imagine someone who understands the Microsoft kernels of how it all wired up or a team of people. I would guess that, in fact, I would already say it exists. I bet somewhere in Microsoft Projects Division, they've made their own one. I bet you it exists because it's going to be trivial for them to do it with Source Code.

It can't, I mean, it's just going to be easy. Not easy as in, you know, I could do it, but easy for very smart developers like Microsoft employees to do it but easy for very smart developers like microsoft employees to do it yeah absolutely um i don't think if they do it's not bad for us i mean we just win at that point right we didn't want like linux has just won at that point we're gonna have okay there's gonna be the people who there's going to be the holdouts people who are like free suffer or die um yeah and i respect that right i respect, that's a totally reasonable stance to have

Like when we're talking about No tux no bucks, that's not A stance that makes sense because you're arguing Like this proprietary thing is worth More than this proprietary thing and they're both worthless My problem with no tux no bucks Especially in the case of Steam is when you run A game through Proton, the dev knows

You're running it in Proton and they know there are people Running it on Linux, if you don't buy the game They don't know there's anyone who wants to Linux. If you don't buy the game, they don't know there's anyone who wants to buy it. The argument of no tux, no bugs has never made sense to me because if I'm running Linux, right? And I buy a Windows game and then I force it through

the force of fucking sheer nerdery to make it work. That is the more Linux way of doing things. Like begging developers to work. That is the more Linux way of doing things. Begging developers to port a game is not the Linux way of doing things. That's the Microsoft way of doing things. It usually works worse as the port. Yeah, but as

the hacker-minded tinkerer, we take things that aren't supposed to work and we hit them with a wrench until they work, right? Proton is the Linux solution we all want. And the people that take a stance against it are not, it's just not as smart. I know this is a bit insulting to people. If you make it as a personal moral choice

that you only buy Linux games, that's your choice. But to preach that on Reddit, like it doesn't make sense. It's not, like you're going to a developer, waste like 100 hours of dev time to make something that will sell once and then you'll go tell people how shit Linux is. Or better option is go make it so it works in Proton.

Be aware of Proton and make Proton specifications and just say to them, like we're not making a Linux version, but I promise to keep it working in Proton. That's totally reasonable. That's a much more reasonable thing to ask them for. Yeah, I fully, any developer who wants to put in that effort

and make a good Linux version, I fully encourage you to do so. That's a much more reasonable thing to ask them for. Yeah, I fully, any developer who wants to put in that effort and make a good Linux version, I fully encourage you to do so. That's awesome. If you want to actually spend the time to do so. You know what though? I don't. I think no one should make a Linux version of a game. Okay.

No, no, no, no. Because like, think about how much money, think about a small development studio, right? So you've got a good example of this, right? Let me check this actually before I start talking shit so i've been playing i've been playing a game today yes oh that's a linux game okay so i was going to use the example of luna's fishing garden which is a game that's retailing for six pound 29 pence right now as it happens they did make a linux version but my point was going to be i didn't, I've played that today, I didn't

know whether or not it was a Linux native. I hit play, and that's all I did, right? It doesn't matter. Okay, we'll talk about the game in a minute, just go with your point that we can talk about the game. There are small studios, like five people. Obviously in this case, they have Linux guys,

you know what they're doing, but if you're a small developer with five people on your team, why waste the dev time? Most small games aren't making enough money to feed the developers anyway. Why waste dev time unless you want to? Don't bother. That's my point. That's my whole point.

If you want to put in the effort and you're like, I just want to make, as a, a point of principle, I want to make this game have a Linux binary. If you want to do that, go ahead. I don't want to discourage that. Yeah. Like if you want to do that.

Also as a developer, you will learn a lot by doing that. You will make your best at your job. Right. And if you learn to make things with a multi-platform in mind from the first place, you go, I can export the binary out of my,

out of unity to Linux, to windows, I can export the binary out of Unity to Linux, to Windows, to Android, right? You can do, I've just got a DM from someone with the words, I found the nun, which, brilliant, sorry. A friend of mine playing Ys, or playing Ys of Dana, like, did you find the hot nun?

And I'm just like, when you get a pop-up that just goes, I found the nun, it stops you mid-sentence. Sorry We are like it doesn't matter right like if you want to do it because you can and then you can export to Android to Make you gonna be able to put your game anywhere That's that makes you a better death But like if you've met if you made a decision which makes this like not hard to pour just don't bother Just don't bother. It's not worth it. Like I

Most gamers are in my position. I'm gonna go go to Steam, I'm going to hit play, and it's going to play or not play. And if it does play, I won't think about it anymore. If it doesn't play, I'll go to my options and I'll select Glorious Egg Rolls Proton and then it'll play. That's what I'll do. That's the process. Although I found Steam Tinker Launcher recently.

That's great. I think it's fucking great. I'll set that as my global proton and now it just automatically selects the right version which is nice oh but anyways yeah have you tried have you found that no i didn't know about that okay so it's a steam tinker launch have you found the the site for it i found the github yeah the github is the best place so basically this is a trend this is a you install it right it comes up in steam as like as like a compatibility player like egg roll does right select that and what it does it's got a

crowdsource database where it goes are people like this version of proton for this game right so i'll just automatically select the correct version of proton fucking great and it also does things like like it's best like this game is best to turn off eSync So we've just done that for you And when you launch the game pops a little pop-up that goes steam tinker launch out and the game launches if it doesn't launch Or whatever it doesn't work you know it's the game again When you get the pop-up you hit spacebar and it opens the options menu You can change all the options then launch it yourself so fucking smooth lovely definitely worth you making a video about Talks we made a video about it. Oh, that's cool. Okay

Lovely. Definitely worth a video about. Tuxfoo made a video about it. Oh, that's cool. Okay. I made a video about it. I'm looking at the list. Yeah, you made a video. Linus Gamecast made a video. Tuxfoo made a video as well. I was like this. I don't know if you know who Tuxfoo is. He's a very small guy.

Like literally little. No. He's a very big man, but he's a very small channel. Tuxfoo. Tuxfoo. T-U-X-F-O-O. I thought you said Tux Phil. I was just imagining his man in it. Actually, that's a good name. Yeah, I just imagined his man in like a little suit. Okay, that's quite the beard isn't it? Yes, I respect the beard. Yeah, okay, cool. I will subscribe. I'll have a look at this

and make a video on it. Yeah. That's cool. It's really cool, yeah. Like I said, I'm not, I said in my video, I've only been using it

a little while, so I'm not that savvy on it yet, but yeah, it seems like it's literally all the things I want out of Proton. It's pretty good. Yeah.

But like that, like, yeah. Because that's the most annoying thing about Proton. When something doesn't work, it's like, okay, well, what do I need to fix? No, sorry. I've just noticed my video is linked on my GitHub now.

Yes, yes it is. Good thank you, people of that. That's thank you. I appreciate guys who do that. That's awesome. It's free advertising. You know. It's not just free. As you know,

I'm not that hung up on views for my videos. I just kind of make stuff I want to make. It's free advertising for them. I know you don't really care about it. It helps in my case. If someone links there, if someone's looking for a tool like this, there's a lot of other shit on my channel they'll find and it helps spread messages about other people's projects as well.

They might not subscribe to me, but while they're looking at my page, they'll go, oh shit, there's a load of other stuff you guys talk about. It helps spread the word about other people's projects as well because like they might not subscribe to me but while they're looking at my page they're like oh shit there's a load of other stuff you guys talked about so yeah it helps like spread the word about small other projects but yeah and you know and if any of them want to sign up to my patreon or send me a gift from amazon wishlist they're welcome to do that don't care about the views but hey send me some gifts i care about the gifts i care about chill yeah fair enough i started talking about the Amazon wishlist and people have actually sent me a bunch of books and stuff.

It's really cool because I've set my wishlist up to not tell me when I get something sent. So sometimes I get home from work and it's like, a gift. It's just really nice. I like it. It's just nice. I feel like people would bully me if I set up a wishlist. My mom's already bullied me enough.

Mine's just got so much Mangret stuff on there. So many comic books are on there as well. Yeah, this looks really cool. Oh, yeah. Steam Tinker Launcher. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's fine. When you install it, you have to go stl compact add on the command

line and then relaunch Steam and it just permanently and you can just make it your default launcher then. Which is definitely the right way to do it. And then it'll just like, the only thing to remember is if you've already manually changed the version of Proton, it won't retroactively go and change that. So yeah, just remember that. As long as you remember

that, you're good. It's even got a button, which is the most fantastic button you can go. Purge container. So you can just remember that but always remember that you're good You've got button which is most fantastic what you can go purge container And you can just purge the wine prefix if you fucked everything up like I do a lot and you have to go do You can just like purge it with one Hmm. Yeah, that would be very useful because the other day I was trying to chaos trying to fucking dead cells I was gonna do a dead cell stream and then the game updated as like ah Missing audio library oh, missing audio library. Like, what are you missing audio library?

I was trying to play the native version. Oh, don't do that. The native version of that game is fucking terrible. No, it was good for a while. And then put the I just went and clicked the newest version of Proton. Works. Yeah. Well, Steam Thinker Launcher should have, in theory, changed that for

you and just well i know that now yeah yeah also if you choose proton experimental it's always the newest version as well you don't have to change the version of that so you can always oh of course yes always the newest yeah that's the thing isn't it yeah um now this fishing game it looks really cool it looks very relaxing cool i've got a video coming out tonight because it literally got released today, right? I see a seal that has a hat on. It's a seal with a hat on and he's so friendly and he just wants

to go fish for him. And I'm like, you've got a fishing rod. Get your own fish, you lazy fuck. And like, there's this little girl and she fishes, right? She's sitting in a boat and she fishes, right? And when she catches the fish, she catches fish she goes no no no she got this little smile their heads up and it's like it's so fucking cute but there's not much game there so it's probably when i when i looked at it because i had the key before i knew the price i was playing it i was like if they're charging like over a tenner for this it might be a stretch because like it's quite it's more of

something to do than an actual game yeah yeah and then when it came out at six pounds 29 i was like you guys know what you've got that that's like it's an easy recommend at that price right but i'd like biomute sorry it looks like it's the fishing mechanic from stardew valley and that's just that's everything literally that's it okay fair enough trees on the island you plant trees on and you can get you can get little mole things in boats to go and harvest stuff for you, which is cute. And yeah, you just iteratively make the world

wider and wider in each direction. And there's a really big fish that wants coconuts. And I was like, that's cool. I don't know why but the big fish wants coconuts, so that's cool. And yeah, you just sort of potter around the island collecting stuff and selling stuff. And then there's like, there's obviously like

a little place where you have to get, you have to like give the collector one of everything in the game because of course there is. And it's just like, it knows what it is.

It's not trying to reinvent the wheel. It's just like really like wholesome and polite and exactly what you want. But the guys that made it also made Lazy Galaxy, which is one of the best clickers ever made like it's just fucking great um it's a clicker where you uh you have to build a planet up and then you build an army up and then you send your army into space to fight and it's like a separate

little mini game then you come back down to earth and deal with the fallout um it's a very very good clicker and that's how i got because i... Because I was hard recommending that game when it first came out. And they sent me a few emails and stuff. And then I've been lukewarm in every game they've made since then. And I felt pretty bad. So they sent me a key to this game. We think you'll like this one.

So I was like, okay. Yeah, I do. It's really good. I'm really enjoying it. It's really good. But they also made Merchants of the Sky, which also has a really big fish. But he doesn't want coconuts.

The fish god, I see. Yeah, that's the same fish in Lunar's Fishing Garden. I think all their games after Lazy Galaxy seem to be set in the same universe and the fish is what ties them together. But anyway, it's fine. It's a carrot with a top hat. Okay.

Yep. It's really cool. It's really fun it's it's like it's simple but in a good way like it's not simple like mean it's simple in this interesting wholesome way and it's it's like it's nice it's just something to do because i feel like when you say a game's not got a lot of mechanics it feels like an insult to the game right it's not in this case it's it's exactly what you want put your episode of Star Trek on one screen, play your stupid fishing game on the other screen, and just have a nice time.

Well, when the devs know that it's a game, that it's a simple game, they're not charging, you know, some stupid amount for it. Like 55 pounds, Biomutant, sorry. You're not going to let that one go, are you? Never! And as soon as it drops in price, I'm making a video where I just shout at the developers.

Okay, what would you consider a reasonable price for biomutant 35 very straightforward no i'm not even lowballing them the game is a solid 35 the reason i came to that price is because a game that's very similar and i I would say better, is £35. Like Kingdoms of Amalas, £35. Very similar game, cast your same itches. That's £35. Your game is more modern and has a unique aesthetic. I'm happy to pay £35. And then I know, because I'll pay £35.

I mean, I'll pay £55. You know, it's fine. But you know that when it drops in price, it'll drop down to £15 at that point. Whereas when it goes £55, it'll drop down in price to £35, and it's still overpriced right yeah it's just right okay sorry i'm just about to coming back to lament the uh pricing no it's fine yeah well i'm not paying as i said i'm not paying 100 for a fucking video game no shouldn't it's not also and i know it's a good game i had fun with it but when i think about how much i paid for it and i got 30's a good game i had fun with it but when i think about how much i paid for it and i got 30 hours out of it like i don't know and again it's hard to say

like there are games i've paid more i've paid money for and i played for two hours and thought like like um a good example of that is uh cyanara wild hearts right paid like 15 pound for it it's an hour long and it was worth every fucking penny right because it's like it was it's it's a wonderful game with a lot of interesting things and a beautiful thing to play through that's worth so it's not always price versus versus hours but in the case of biomutants i don't feel like like there was a reason for the price for that much money for it and that's why i that's why i'm giving them shit about endlessly yeah that's fair that's fair. Yeah, I just thought I'd defend my point there for people who go, you spend more money

than that on Vimto. I do, yeah. You spend £55 an hour on tea. Yeah, well, that's important. Were those lights there last time we did this? No, the lights under the canopy there. Yeah, no, I added them

recently because I thought when I was on my video, because with your eyes, you can just see a string of lights and it looks a bit shit. But on camera, it looks like the shelf is just glowing. It's quite nice. Yeah.

You probably can't see. I've got a flamingo in there as well, which is fine. Well, it's the same thing with this. This doesn't look that great if you look at it in person. But the camera does weird things with light. Yeah, it enhances the light, yeah. It's the same thing with this. This doesn't look that great if you look at it in person. But the camera does weird things with light. Yeah, it enhances the light, yeah.

It's all right. You know, the light looks cool. It looks cool. Yeah, and for a smart plug-in, so when I tell the voice assistant to turn on the lights on and off, it turns the fairy lights that are back on and the lights under there. It's all one hit.

So, ultimate laziness. I like that. That's good. That's why i have this control here yeah no i'm too lazy to find notes i can't leave those plugged in one because you know they're on my bed i need to sleep there um also there they might be a fire hazard i don't know i've got them off ebay for like dirt cheap they are rgb floodlights one of one of the best things i ever did was separating my computer area from my bedroom.

And if you've got space to do it, it's great because you can, like my bedroom now is just filled with books and comics. Yeah. And a bed, obviously, because I'm a child. It's like a 14-year-old bedroom. But it's nice to be able to separate from the technology and just go like do something else.

Yeah. The only reason I did it was because I was running out of space in here, basically. So I was like, I'll separate the two rooms. do something else yeah well i didn't think the only reason i did it was the only reason i did it was because i was running out of space in here basically so i'll separate the two rooms yeah it was it's great to have the the mental off switch they just like stop thinking about whatever you're doing and just get on with your day so yeah well i don't have my own place this is a i like this just the room my with my i've got roommates in the other rooms so i've been is one of your roommates your mom no okay no i haven't lived with my parents for

like five years one of my roommates is my mom she lives in my house so like genuinely like one of my roommates my mom so yeah i was actually looking at buying a place um because it's not actually too expensive did you not learn from the communist frog the communist frog property abolished private property yes um no man and cap frogs where it's uh and cap frog no yeah yeah i yeah i mean i'm i'm fortunate that i live i live in a field basically i'm far away from everywhere and uh yeah as i, my mom lives with me. And I'm not moving house because it's a chore. I've got an office and a bedroom.

If I put a microwave in the corner, I don't really need to leave this room. I can microwave in the corner and a bucket to pee in. I don't have to leave this room ever. So that's fine for me. At some point, I will have my own place, and then I can have my microwave, my pee bucket, then we'll be good.

As long as this bed is just not behind me. That's what I need. Having these together, you honestly get awful sleep. I don't know how people do this forever. Yeah, I mean, there's some makeup bloggers and stuff. And also, don't judge me, I like makeup bloggers. They're relaxing to watch. They're pretty.

Fair enough. But some of them, their bedroom's part of their set and stuff. And I'm like, can you imagine having to get up and make your bed look like it's not covered in sweat and piss? Can you imagine the stress of that? No, I can't do it. The most I do with this bed is I just like make sure like

this remotely shake out cover up the flashlight yeah basically no that's in my drawdown here no man fucking

fleshlights are yeah don't know fleshlights are gross man yeah man once you bought one and you realise they're gross you want to get rid of it

have you ever tried disposing of a flashlight because there's no mechanism in society to do that. You can't. You're just stuck with it forever. You can't get rid of it. Have you considered a bin? That's the thing.

You put it in the bin, and then, like, your mum opens the bin to put the next thing in. She's like, someone's thrown away a torch that looks like a vagina. And you go... That's why you don't live with your mum. My mum lives with me. Okay, fair okay fair enough yeah i'll give you that but uh i did actually literally in the end just be like i'm putting something in the bin it's in a bag don't look at it she went wide i went it's a sex toy she went i don't want to know i literally had that conversation and i was like what do you do with it you know but like

fleshlights are gross man like you have to like like nobody wants to like ejaculate then have to clean up the cup like no no nobody like nobody like think about the mechanics people then things go moldy think about it like no no people no it's no it's gross don't do it well you know what this is as good a place as any to end up the podcast oh this is where we start we start we started with me looking like i was jacking off and end with you talking about fleshlights what a great episode i do i do not endorse the fleshlight you'll never see fleshlight adverts on my channel it's not it's not happening no no it's gross they're disgusting how much would i have to pay you to do a fleshlight ad i mean i'm pretty cheap i i sell out pretty low okay well yeah yeah i know

i mean i wouldn't be sincere like my opinions on fleshlights are well documented they're fucking gross they're gross weird but weirdly gross mechanics is cleaning them he's not right no it's like you get you're in the bathroom oh that's my semen lovely no nobody wants that you think about it before you buy them people until someone finds until someone finds a way to make themselves cleaning but that's why we want sex robots because they'll go take a shower afterwards you haven't got to deal

with it that's a good point that is a very good point like a little fleshlight with legs strutters away when you're done no torso just like like fleshlight with legs. So it's a spider that just runs off. Oh my God. That's nightmare fuel.

My brain's now giving me visions of spiders hatching from a fleshlight. Oh my God. I bet you could Google that. I bet someone's done that. No. Oh God. Okay.

I'm not Googling that. I do not want to think about that. You're literally going to have that in your Google history. Yeah, no. I'm going to done that. No. Oh, God. Okay. I'm not Googling that. I do not want to think about that. You're literally going to have that in your Google history. Yeah, no. I'm not going to search that. That's a good one. I'll be on a list. You're already on a list.

You're on Linux. Fair enough. Yeah. So, yeah. This is a good place to end it. You're right. In fact, we've already gone too far. We should not talk about fleshleshlights on People Podcast.

One of the things Drew told me before I did Guest Spots on People Podcast is like, don't talk about cum. No, but it's fine. My podcast, it doesn't matter. So before anyone goes, you can get my podcast over on YouTube, which is Trendy Talk, which is me and my two

buddies just talk about shit with no topic unorganized and no time limit no schedule and what's really annoying is i put zero effort in and it's the most popular thing on my channel by a fucking landslide which is like why do i bother you know so yeah you can do that yeah that's rough that that that's how i feel about a lot of the stuff i upload it's like oh, I put fucking no effort in this video. Like, I'll do a video on, like, the Freenode debacle, and it's just like, oh, this is just me yelling at how Andrew Lee's absolutely insane,

and it just does really well. People traded one consolidated server that's owned by an individual for another one. It's just highlighting things wrong with IRC, right? It's just highlighting... The problem with IRC is that server can just be bought by someone. Maybe we should have decentralized services. Maybe we should use Matrix.

No, Matrix is a bag of shit, man. I'm serious. Matrix is awful. It's so complicated. There's so many things it does badly and people keep defending it because they want it to be a thing. It's just not very good.

It's just so heavy to run. You can't self-host Matrix. You can. It's a nightmare to self-host Matrix. You need a whole computer for that. Someone got it running on a Raspberry Pi 4. You can do it. Raspberry Pi 4 is more powerful than my PC was a few years ago.

They've got 8 gig of RAM and quad core. It's not like we're talking about little diddy Raspberry Pi. They need water cooling. It's not a thing. And also, it's all very well setting your matrix server up with about five users.

Come back when you've got 400. Oh yeah, don't do that. No, you need like a hundred little VPS for that one. Yeah, I know. This is the problem with matrix. five users come back when you got 400 oh yeah don't do that no you need like a hundred vps for that one yeah i know like like it's not this is the problem the matrix is just not viable for most people same problem with like my uh my like if you go to social.xdsl.co.uk i'm aroma yeah not because i love aroma because if you look at how much resources mastodon takes to really ludicrous like i'd be writing off an entire vp run Mastodon. Whereas my current VPN runs

owncast, Pleroma, VS Code. It runs a bunch of things for $10 a month, where if I wanted to run Pleroma, I'd be spending $15 a month. Oh, you mean Mastodon? Mastodon, sorry, yeah. But Pleroma's at least got a reasonable size for individuals.

But even then, Pleroma's designed to be multi-user. I want someone to design a version of Mastodon slash Pleroma is designed to be multi-user. I want someone to design a version of Mastodon slash Pleroma that's literally designed for the individual. We don't have that anywhere,

which is a shame. The single user Mastodon would be really good, right? Yeah. Make it a single user and then just federate with like Global or something or just pick a few servers

to federate with. That's how a lot of people end up using it anyway. Yeah, but the system is not designed like you've got an entire fucking MariahDB database for Mastodon. DT's got a public Mastodon instance.

I have no idea how much he's paying for that one. Yeah, I think especially when I move towards self-hosting and stuff, I don't want even people I know, I want my shit to be my own shit like I'd rather have all my own shit and not deal with

anyone else's services because it's all very well DTM the public Mastodon server right what I'm doing is bored of paying for it it's just gone whereas if I've got

my own Pleroma it's not perfect but it's there forever it's there you know not going anywhere yes fair point yeah

anyway did we end this podcast goodbye my things yes my things where. Yes, fair point. Yeah. Anyway, did we end this podcast? Goodbye. My things, yes. My things! Things. Wait, I closed my topics. Let me bring it up. Where's my Patreon people?

Yes. Special thank you to Yoakim, Donald, Logan, Michael, Andrew, Nathan, David, Will, Mitchell, Carl, Brennan, Chico, Bento, Jamie, Josh, Peter, Lee, Stephen, T-Srew, Tony, T-Shaw, and the T-Lol guys.

The Audio Versions podcast is available over anywhere. You can find it. Just look up Tech of a T. You'll find it. Is it on Gemini? No, it's not on Gemini. Why would you play

some Gemini? I guess you could. You can deploy binaries on Gemini. It's just not a good idea. I could have like a Gemini page that's just not a good idea. I could have a Gemini page that links to the things. That could work. Anyway,

the videos are on YouTube and Odyssey and actually, that's just it. BitChute! Everything's on BitChute. It's not on BitChute. I'm too lazy. I would put it on BitChute if BitChute's auto-uploader actually worked. Oh, you can back when BitChute first started you could send them an email

and they'd permanently link your channel that's what I'd do I'll see if they respond BitChute's just filled with fascism just not even worth looking at it's just filled with fascisms yeah it's a fun place the reason why BitChute doesn't succeed

is because their homepage is fucking trash. There's good content on the website, like, you know, Hex DSM is there. There is, but that's in a sea of Nazis. Yeah, not like Haha this person is a bit right-wing, no, like actual Nazis are on there. Yeah, actual Nazis. And because I'm a bald white guy, people assume I'm a white supremacist anyway. So, like, I just fit right in,

and I'm not happy about that. If it wasn't for the fact that, like, it's more hassle to stop uploading my videos, I'd probably just be off there. Yeah, fair enough. I think you can shut down your account, but... I just can't be arsed. Yeah, fair enough. Sometimes I get an email from someone I think you can shut down your account, but... I just can't be arsed. I just ignore it. Yeah, fair enough.

Sometimes I get an email from someone who watches my content on BitChute. They're all like, I like it, but you've not really got the message in there. I'm like, no, no. Message? It's like, block. Just no, no, no.

That's a true story. I've literally had that email. Literally. I've gotten a couple of comments on BitChute. The most memorable one is someone accusing me of being a jew so that that's just bit shoot in a nutshell it's like okay the phrase being a jew like like that no no like i'm sure if brodie was Jewish, he'd go, yeah. Like, yeah, that'd be the whole conversation.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this is getting derailed very quickly. Bye. I'm going to end this. Bye. I'm going to go to sleep.