Tech Over Tea - #83 Gaming, Weeb Trash & Vtubing On Linux | Rogue Ren

Episode Date: September 29, 2021

You know how on the solo episodes I mainly talk about gaming, weeb trash, and vtubers well today I'm talking to Rogue Ren and he isn't going to steer us away from those topics. ==========Guest Links==...======== YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/RogueRen Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ItsRogueRen Twitter: https://twitter.com/ItsRogueRen ==========Support The Channel========== ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/brodierobertson ► Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/BrodieRobertsonVideo ► Amazon USA: https://amzn.to/3d5gykF ► Other Methods: https://cointr.ee/brodierobertson =========Video Platforms========== 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBq5p-xOla8xhnrbhu8AIAg =========Audio Release========= 🎵 RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/149fd51c/podcast/rss 🎵 Apple Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-over-tea/id1501727953 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3IfFpfzlLo7OPsEnl4gbdM 🎵 Google Podcast: https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xNDlmZDUxYy9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw== 🎵 Anchor: https://anchor.fm/tech-over-tea ==========Social Media========== 🎤 Discord:https://discord.gg/PkMRVn9 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/TechOverTeaShow 📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techovertea/ 🌐 Mastodon:https://mastodon.social/web/accounts/1093345 ==========Credits========== 🎨 Channel Art: All my art has was created by Supercozman https://twitter.com/Supercozman https://www.instagram.com/supercozman_draws/ DISCLOSURE: Wherever possible I use referral links, which means if you click one of the links in this video or description and make a purchase we may receive a small commission or other compensation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, good evening. I am as always your host, Brodie Robinson, and today we have another VTuber guest. Sadly, he's not a kawaii anime girl this time, but keep watching, because he is still a fun guest. Welcome to the show, Ren. How are you doing? I feel insulted. I just got on here. I feel insulted already. Hey, you have the long hair, so you just gotta go get rid of the beard. Maybe you can be a bit cuter then. Just rebrand. Exactly. You wouldn't be the first one to do it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I mean, you're not wrong. I say as I've rebranded my Twitch already when I became a VTuber. Yeah, that's fair. Right, because you've been streaming for, would you say, four years or something like that? Four years. I have literally nothing to show for it. Just take my word. Don't look into it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I've got your YouTube channel up on the screen right now. So, explain to people what you actually do. You do like... You're in a really weird niche. Extremely weird niche. I am a Linux VTuber. I do... I'm doing
Starting point is 00:01:06 on Twitch at least, the same things all the other VTubers are doing. I just happen to use Linux. But on YouTube, I'm making a lot of showcases of free software you can use for content creation, how to use VTuber software on Linux, how to just do a couple Linux things. I'm not super into
Starting point is 00:01:22 general Linux stuff, at least not yet. There's actually a video that's going up. It'll probably be up by the time this video's posted. I'm posting it the week we're recording this of how to install Linux. Okay, yep. Just end. How to install it.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I presume you're going with something like Populous for that one? I'm using that as the example, but I'm going to do a general installation guide of just how to go into bios how to select your boot drive right right right so um i want to talk about why there was a bit of delay this morning so anyone using linux probably has come across especially anyone using arch linux so disc so you know discord like you know is a basically containerized web app, and it downloads its own updates and
Starting point is 00:02:07 does all that stuff for you? Sometimes it doesn't, though, because there's still different versions in the repos. So you will have a version, it'll update itself for a while, then at some point it's like, hey, go and download the latest dev from
Starting point is 00:02:23 the website. What are you talking about? So when it comes up,, hey, go and download the latest dev from the website. Like, what are you talking about? So when it comes up, you have to go and reinstall Discord and then it will just get like, reinstall literally the same version and the error will go away. But in my case, I actually forgot to do a system update
Starting point is 00:02:38 for about a week or so. So there actually was a new version. There was a new version in my repos um but also because my kernel had upgraded my uh my package list hadn't upgraded so trying to just update the discord package wouldn't work so to do a full system update i'm now on kernel 5.14.6 and everything should be working i had to do a reboot because because with the virtual camera, that's a kernel module. And if I don't reboot, the kernel module will be out of date. So now we're 10 minutes late, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I have that same kernel module because that's how OBS does virtual cams. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's been a couple of times when I've done like, just an update. I didn't realize it was like a kernel update as well. And I just couldn't do a stream or I couldn't do a video or something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And like, why is this happening? Yeah. Luckily I don't have that, um, that update issue because I'm using it a bunch of base. I just downloaded the latest one for the website and install it. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah. Yeah. But, um, arch arch is fun. Arch seems like a lot of fun to mess around with. I don't think I'd have a good time daily driving it. I think if you keep in mind the problems that Arch does have,
Starting point is 00:03:55 you should be fine. When you go into it expecting it to be as easy to just not worry about is something like Pop OS or Ubuntu, like you actually have to worry at least a little bit about Arch but if you at least keep in mind those problems, you remember to do updates, not actually I think it might have waited like two weeks you remember to actually do updates
Starting point is 00:04:20 little things like that generally stuff will be fine if you know how to read an error message and actually like search for what the problem is from what I've found it's typically fine but I also am a crazy person who jumped into it as
Starting point is 00:04:36 my first distro like straight from windows so don't take my word for it this is just I sort of have fun messing around with stuff like any way like that like i if you hand me like a torch or something the first thing we're going to do is probably take it apart not turn it on no i don't need i want to take it apart exactly yeah i would not have a fun time with that because i'm still learning how to read error messages
Starting point is 00:05:06 right so like when i i just did an upgrade where i reinstalled my os to an ssd and split the home directory off for some reason when i was installing it and this was the install that where i was using a camera to record my computer screen so that it could show for my video. Right. It would not install. Could not figure out why. I went through the whole installer. There was nothing wrong with it. I get to the very end, can't install. Wrote log file.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I go to it and I open the log file. I'm just looking through it and was like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. I have no idea what any of this means. Your first problem with the log file is finding where in the log file you need to be looking. I started at the newest part that was written
Starting point is 00:05:51 and went up. And I'm just like, I have no clue what any of this means. Luckily, I am in the Discord for the Linux experiment. And some of those people were just like, yeah, did you try doing it in,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you're in BIOS mode from the thing. I was like, what? Yeah, do it in UEFI mode. What? So, yeah, it turns out the Pop!OS installer defaults to BIOS mode. Oh, okay. What?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Wait, like that, wait, Pop!OS, no, that's pop what no that's what why yeah weird so i did it and i booted it in uefi mode okay yep and so it loads and i'm downloaded the iso and made the installer for 21.04 i loaded it in uefi mode and it loads the installer for 20.04 LTS. It's something. I'm just like, I didn't even download this version. But it worked. It installed. It did everything I needed to.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So I just installed it. And then updated to 21.04. Oh, man. It works. It was a weird process, but it works. If those are problems for you, just avoid Arch,
Starting point is 00:07:13 because that's going to be your entire day. I am... My moderator has officially announced that I am the king of the technical issue of, well, by all all means it should be working but it's not well judging by the fact that like your current vtuber setup is the epitome of that like it kind of makes sense yep oh i am using software that should not be running on Linux. So, um... Wine is my friend. Because there's not many people who
Starting point is 00:07:47 probably even consider VTubing on Linux, how about you explain like, your janky setup and the problems that it should have, but it doesn't. Uh, it's not so jank anymore. The update actually went live that removed the exploit thing
Starting point is 00:08:04 I was using and properly fixed the local tracking right right so i'm actually using a proper feature to get it working right but initially when i was doing it with live 2d the software i'm using is vtube studio when you load it up on linux it can see your webcam, but it can't get any frames from it, which is weird in and of itself. However, it does show an option called V2 Studio Cam. It's not supposed to. That is supposed to be the name of the virtual camera it creates when you install the virtual camera in Windows. That's not supposed to be an option for your camera for the tracker. And I'm running OpenCFace a terminal uh separate from the program well i chose that and it read from open cface
Starting point is 00:08:53 i don't know why the neither of us know why that worked it just did i'm just kind of sitting here it just i joined the beta program for this i joined the beta program for the sole reason of okay where's the update where this breaks and it finally came like a week or two ago it's like oh found it this is the one that breaks it the developer spent two hours with me getting the um local host tracking to work properly so like shout out to denshi soft on twitter denshi is amazing i don't know why they thought they would spend two hours with me working on it but they did and i appreciate it so much that's awesome that is absolutely awesome um so the way it's working now is that you can run any face tracker locally right you set a little file ip.txt which is on github that
Starting point is 00:09:52 you add to the files in the steam directory yeah and it starts searching your local network for a face tracker going through a certain port and that's what it was supposed to work initially when um when didn Denchi implemented it He or she I actually don't know if it's a he or she So I'm just going to say they They made it to where it was searching for Their modified version
Starting point is 00:10:16 Of OpenSeaFace that's built into VTube Studio Not Vanilla OpenSeaFace So it was auto-rejecting Vanilla OpenSeaFace. So it was auto-rejecting vanilla OpenSeaFace. And they're just like, oh! They changed, I think, maybe one line of code. It's like, okay, now it works.
Starting point is 00:10:35 It was one of those little oversights where it's like, oh! Okay, I know how to fix this. There we go. Pushed an update. It's good now. Beautiful. Beautiful. Pushed an update. It's good now. Beautiful. What an absolute mess. I mean, I'm the psychopath
Starting point is 00:10:52 who's using it on an operating system it wasn't made for. Look, but that's just insane the dev's willing to help you for that long. That's crazy. There's such a tiny set of people using it. Sorry, what was that? At the end of the day, it also helped the Windows version.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Because it made it where that feature was working the way it was intended. Right, right. It just... The problem happened to pop up on a Linux system. I could speak words. I know the feeling. Man, what an absolute jank setup.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Like, I think this, look, one of the many reasons why I haven't tried VTubing, apart from the fact that models are expensive. That is very true. I don't have legs because they're too expensive.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Who needs legs? Like, look, how, besides for like ring fit streams, how many vtubers show their legs right i mean the model debut and ring fit that is all and i'm not gonna stream ring fit because i need room in order to do that so i have to yeah that's fair i just make a switch dock in another room that i actually play it on yeah room, room is a bit expensive for me. Like, that's as far back as I can move. Yeah. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I don't have a lot of room either. I'm going to be moving in a couple of months, and the room is way bigger there. So I actually better have space, like, segment off half the room as, like, a a studio and i can use that and i have an actual backdrop that's not just my bed it'll be it'll be lovely and i can use my green screen a bunch of other cool stuff like that oh that's cool because this room i think is i think it's two and a half by two and a half meters i don't know what is that in feet only two and a half meters
Starting point is 00:12:45 for the whole room it's a shoebox i let's see hold on what am i in two feet 2.5 meters is 8.2 feet uh i don't know yeah 8.2 feet yeah okay I figured it was somewhere around like 10 feet. Yeah. But the new room we're going to is 3x4, so... 3x4, yeah. Oh, dang. That's significantly more room. Yeah, yeah. So I can literally just segment off half the room and just have one section just for the studio,
Starting point is 00:13:19 and that will be lovely. That will be absolutely amazing. The only thing I will miss... Ir if i wanted to that would be cool oh yeah that would be super fun yeah i want to get into vr but it's so expensive and as you understand linux not a lot of hardware support at the moment the things that are supported are the more expensive ones yeah you can get stuff working to an extent i think it's gotten better there was a while where even like on the expensive headsets a lot of stutter issues and stutter issues basically just make it unusable yeah i think like the best compatibility right now is the valve index and i
Starting point is 00:13:57 think the five is pretty good now right right i'll be surprised if valve didn't try to make it work properly on linux that would be a if any company was going to do it valve would be surprised if Valve didn't try to make it work properly on Linux. If any company was going to do it, Valve would be the one I would expect. And I mean, Valve, I'm pretty sure they bought HTC's VR segment to make the index. So the Vive working well makes sense as well. Don't quote me on that, though. I'm not 100% certain. I'm just going to take your word for it. It's either they bought it or they partnered with them i can't remember which if i was gonna buy a headset
Starting point is 00:14:31 i probably would buy an index though that's like yeah i mean you might as well it's the best one on the market anyway yeah i i don't want anything to do with oculus at this point after they've been co-opted by facebook with if if that jailbreak to remove all the facebook stuff do with oculus at this point after they've been co-opted by facebook with if if that jailbreak to remove all the facebook stuff from the oculus ever goes live then i would buy an oculus wait i didn't hear about this oh yeah there's this team they found a jailbreak to um remove all the facebook stuff for it but they aren't making it public because they're waiting to see if they can find a way to make it to where Facebook could never block it before they release it. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Which I appreciate because if they did release it, Facebook would patch it and then we'd be back to square one. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. It's never connected to the internet. I can't patch it then. Yeah, there you go. No, what you do is actually here's an easier fix just block the um in your host file just block the facebook api here's the question would it require it in order to boot i would hope not to if it's jailbroken oh if it's jailbroken yeah yeah yeah obviously then yeah i mean i as a default if it like won't boot up the os without connecting to facebook's api then it doesn't matter what you do you're fucked yeah that i haven't heard anything like that
Starting point is 00:15:57 i presume i would have heard if it doesn't work at all off maybe here's what it could if you have an internet connection it will connect to facebook but if you don't it would still work because if they just made it a brick without an internet connection that would be i would have heard about that already absolutely i mean google did it with their smart speakers if you don't have an internet connection they just constantly tell you to connect to the internet it's hilarious what the fuck would you stop stop buying smart speakers they're dumb like there's there's no would you... Stop buying smart speakers. They're dumb. Like, there's no benefit you get from a smart speaker. I got a free one, actually, from Spotify.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Okay, it's free. That's different. And I tried it out, and I liked it for a little bit. And then I found out that it's kind of useless without the internet. And I'm just like, oh. And I just kind of stopped using it. It's sitting on my desk, but it's not even plugged in i have an lg soundbar that i got 50 off like five years ago it plays audio that's what it
Starting point is 00:16:53 needs to do i don't need this smart speaker nonsense honestly again i got it for free with spotify so why was spotify giving away smart speakers i don't know it was only google home minis okay sure maybe google just i wanted somewhere to get them into people's houses i guess so i guess they were trying to just be like wow alexis taking over smart speakers hey we have one use our product we're google i i've owned like a couple of like little smart devices here and i've had some smart bulbs and other things like that and look i i i maybe maybe i'm just getting old and i hate new technology but i i can't stand them i genuinely can't just give me a light bulb that turns on don't have i
Starting point is 00:17:42 i've had smart bulbs that just won't connect to the app and they just don't work they just sit there flashing trying to connect to the app yeah um i'm very picky on smart devices like i never want to own a smart tv ever stop making smart tvs i don't want an os and have to wait for that to boot on my tv just turn it on if i want to like if i want an os on my tv like there are devices i can buy like i could buy a podcast i have an amazon fire stick i'll just plug that thing in computer i could plug that in as well yeah i mean yeah i mean i can understand maybe you don't have a computer to plug in but like fire sticks are what thirty dollars
Starting point is 00:18:20 absolutely and i have one I need to actually look into rooting it because apparently you can do a lot of really cool stuff if you root it because it's built off Android. Oh, okay. Amazon Fire Stick. I did not know that. Yeah, it's modified Android. Ah, so you can root it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That's cool. I don't know what you do with it, but... Apparently, I mean, I've sideloaded stuff like Kodi and stuff onto it. Even though I've... Kodi's very confusing and I still haven't figured out how the hell to use it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 But it's on there. I can't figure out how to use it, though. I just got booted up Arch Linux on it. Okay, that's a new one. Use the Fire Stick to... Actually, here's a plan. I wonder how badly... Actually, no, better yet.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I wonder how much you could emulate on a Fire Stick. How powerful is that? Could you theoretically play Atari games on it if you installed RetroArch? you could probably get away with atari but i don't think you get much further i don't know what the specs for it are so i i'm genuinely not sure not yet well that's what i expected um it can't output more than 1080p video. And they probably designed it around that being the only thing it did. Wait, it can't do... Is there not a 4K variant?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Like, 4K TVs are getting... There might be a 4K variant, but the one I have is just a standard stick. Right, right. Okay, right, that makes sense. According to this, it has... It has a gig of RAM. That's impressive. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's more than I expected. Ah! Well done! That was my alarm for work from before I changed shifts. Well,
Starting point is 00:20:28 that actually segues well into a topic. I actually have been meaning to get back and finish Persona 5. It's a great game. I played through it twice. I got up to the... What were they called? What were the dungeons called in that game?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Castles? Palaces? Yeah, yeah. I was up to the last one. I just... I never got around to finishing it. The last one? I got busy with the Union stuff. What seems like the last one?
Starting point is 00:20:55 I guess what seems like the last one? Who was the king of it? God. Or the ruler of it? By the way, spoilers for Persona yeah well okay spoilers of persona 5 um i don't remember it as i said it's been a long i i think like a year since i last played it i mean you don't need to tell me a name just tell me what they look like and i'll probably remember them that's the problem i'm having i'm looking i'm just look at the wiki i don't care um were you playing five were you playing five royal royal wasn't out at the time ah okay okay then yeah the actual last
Starting point is 00:21:36 palace is well no because there's there's a thing actually after the last palace it might not have been the last one. Anyway, I was very close near the end of the game. Wait, is it Shido? Shido? Okay, that's... Yeah, that is close to the game. That's not the last.
Starting point is 00:21:58 There is one more after that. Okay, it looked like the end of the game. We're getting to the climax of the end of the story. Yeah, no. It is the end of the game it we're getting to the climax the end of the story yeah no it was it is the climax of um it's the pseudo climax right right right um after that there's like all right we've done this and then it's like but wait there's more right right i uh the part after that i'm not going to tell you what it is but it's really good yeah i was borrowing a copy of my, and he ended up wanting the copy back
Starting point is 00:22:26 because he was selling his PS4 and wanted a bundle of games. So I'll go and buy a cheap secondhand copy somewhere. I'm sure I can find it fairly cheap at this point. Honestly, just get Royal. I might. Look, I kind of want to get Royal. Because in Royal, it has all the same content plus more. So if you're going to go buy it anyway, you might as well buy the one with the extra content yeah that's fair but i when i first played persona
Starting point is 00:22:52 5 i for like the first i think 30 minutes i didn't play it i just stood in like the first area i was like wow this music's really good i just didn't even know Damn This music's boppin' Like A lot of game soundtracks are fairly boring And you don't really remember them after you Finish the game but there's some games out there Where The soundtrack is like
Starting point is 00:23:17 So good that there is Oh absolutely A lot of songs you remember like When you're just walking around Outside The main cafe area, the music that plays there, or the battle music in Persona 5, there's so many songs I can distinctly remember.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's so good. I've almost finished Persona 4 Golden, and while I don't like the game as much as 5, I definitely like 5 more, the music is that same, just amazing level. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've got Golden on Steam. I haven't played it yet.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You were saying that it might be a pain in the proton? If you play it with Proton Experimental, apparently it fixed a lot of the issues I was having when I initially tried to play it. That's good. I'll have oh cool now that i'm almost done playing the game on my vita thanks i uh i've been looking at doing i've been playing some games under a pcsx recently or PCSX2. And I've got Persona 3 downloaded, or Persona 3 FES. Same. I have that set up as well. I haven't played it yet.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Audio is a pain in that emulator. On Linux especially. I didn't have... Oh, sorry? Because you have to finagle it for every game. I didn't have really any issue, at least with the... Right now I'm playing through Shin Megami Tensei III.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I didn't have any issues with it there. Yeah, in Persona 3, the audio sounds fine. Right. It's just slightly delayed. And that bothers me. Because I'll go through the menu, and the clicks will be a little behind when I'm actually going through it and seeing it change.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Right. Maybe stuff is slightly delayed, and I'm just not noticing it. It's possible. I think it's just Persona 3, because different games do different things, because that emulator is still... You really have to configure it for the games.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, yeah. Which is a little annoying, but I think that's just i think that's just elimination with ps2 emulation it worked like i remember when ps2 emulation barely worked but it's there it's it's really good nowadays like even on like fairly mid-range systems it's really good yeah i think the worst experience i've had was I loaded up Jack 3 on the PS2 emulator, and all the textures and shadows were wonky, but the game itself
Starting point is 00:25:50 played. That's a lot at the end of the day. I could get it to where the textures were mostly okay. Eyes were like this weird rainbow-y thing, and shadows just stretched to the edge of the screen, no matter what they were, or where they were. They always stretched off to the side of the screen no matter what they were or where they were they always
Starting point is 00:26:05 stretched off to the side of the screen which was not unplayable it just didn't look very pretty yeah well and jack three is a it's a fairly good looking ps2 game i think one of the things i think one of the things a lot of ps2 games did well that a lot of games now are really struggling with the same thing with early PS1 stuff. They're trying to go really high realism, but there was an era there where you had a lot of stylized
Starting point is 00:26:34 games, and the stylized games are the ones that still look really, really good nowadays. Right, yeah. I wish more games would go for that stylized look instead of hyper-realism like take Okami for example something like Okami on the PS2
Starting point is 00:26:50 is a beautiful game even now oh yeah I'm seeing all these new releases and I'm looking at them and it's like it looks like they were all made in the exact same engine with the same textures I feel like one game could walk into three others and would not look out of place.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Have you seen the trailer for, what is it called, Wukong Black Myth? I don't think so. Oh, sorry, Black Myth Wukong, whatever. It looks really, really, really good, but it's gotten to the point where we've like, we've hit this insane level of realism that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:32 There's not really many places you can go from there without the budgets getting just insanely expensive. Although they're already bad enough. Yeah. I think the biggest offender is, to this predicament in the opposite direction is uh game freak and the pokemon company oh yeah do you want to talk about the the diamond and pearl remake is that what you're getting at with this well that's not where i was going i was
Starting point is 00:28:01 actually gonna just complain more about sword and shields oh okay yes um highest grossing ip in the world barely any budget to make an upscale 3ds game why uh that was which that's the reason why the game doesn't look great because it initially started on a 3ds and then they just switched it all up into the Switch. But they didn't change the budget. They had the same budget. There is a. I can't find it now. But there was a post I found a while ago.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Where someone remade a lot of the really bad animations. Like how you have. I think it's the wingull animation. Where it's just all the birds. Where they're like just this. Oh yeah. I saw that video too actually. I think it's the wing gull animation where it's just all the birds where they're like just this. Oh yeah, yeah. I saw that video too, actually.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And someone like in, I think Avery made them like a week or something and actually made like, you know, good animation, you know, birds flapping their wings, basic stuff. I remember in the videos, it's like these animations aren't great, but I made them in a week and they're better.
Starting point is 00:29:08 The other problem it has... I love Pokemon, but... It was... This was fine when we were using sprites or basic 3D models on the 3DS. This was fine, but now that we have a
Starting point is 00:29:24 home console, there's no excuse for getting Pokemon scaling wrong. Pokemon Colosseum got this correct. Honestly, I think they should have stuck either with 2D art styles or kept with that sort of chibi style that didn't X and Y. Yeah, yeah. I think that would work. Yeah, I think going to the full size 3d models is just too much this game's always meant to be a portable game series it was developed for the game boy it's always been on handhelds and i mean coliseum and xd did all right on um home consoles but there wasn't the same sense of exploration of exploring the wilderness it was all just going from city to city yeah yeah then let's not even talk about like battle revolution which was basically just existed for competitive pokemon
Starting point is 00:30:18 i liked battle revolution i thought it was i like battle revolution it was fun i didn't think it was like the most mind-blowing greatest thing ever. It's like, it's fun. I want to play... We're going to play Pokemon at my house?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Let's throw it on the TV and make them 3D while we're at it. Why not? Oh, wait. I found the video about the guy who remade the animations.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Let's see. I don't want to see your ad. Go away. What if I wanted to see the ad? Oh yeah, hit the Skarmory that doesn't even move its wings. Yeah. This isn't even animated at this point. What are you even doing?
Starting point is 00:31:00 I totally get that... I totally get that... totally get that you know animating this many Pokemon is hard but what they need to do is either commit to putting a massive budget into this game or cut back and actually
Starting point is 00:31:17 have good animations for what they do have like if you're gonna have like a single generation of Pokemon just do 100 Pokemon or 150 whatever you want to do animate them well and they have been cutting back with a lot of stuff but they still haven't been fixing the animation problem or right but like not even just like move like a waiting animation like attack animations also like they can't even line up attack sometimes yeah and the whole like the whole removing the national decks um everyone was so upset about
Starting point is 00:31:51 that i wasn't upset over the fact that they removed the national decks i was upset over the fact that they said they removed it so they'd have more time to work on the animations and stuff and then they didn't it's the fact that they lied about why if they had just said we're not going to have all the pokemon we just don't have the time to do it okay fine fair enough there's a lot of pokemon that makes sense sure but the fact that you told us we're going to improve the animations and make all new models and such when you meant you were going to make the models for the new Pokemon and then reuse the rest of them
Starting point is 00:32:26 and not do anything to the animations. Isn't it so strange that the spin-off, like the spin-off games have way better animations now? Like Pokemon Snap. That looked, oh, Pokemon Snap. Yeah, Pokemon Snap, the new one. It looks great.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah, new Pokemon Snap. It looked great. The animations are great. Still, I don't understand Nintendo's obsession with using the prefix for new because oh right right yeah oh yeah they had an existing prefix they could have used that they've used since the 90 just put super in front of it no new new is what we do imagine if instead of saying the new 3ds you said the super 3ds that doesn't sound pretty cool actually yeah it sounds a lot better look if they start doing that they're gonna call the
Starting point is 00:33:11 oled switch a super switch though it's not very super though i mean that one makes sense it's switch oled that's fine it's exactly what they call it huh they did actually call it switch oled did they yeah they did okay okay that's acceptable yeah no that's better it's just switch oled it's switch with an oled screen i'm not gonna get it because i don't want an oled screen on my game console no i i well i don't get the obsession with oled like it's fine either it's fine for things where you're not gonna have any static images but it has it's not to the same extent but it has the same problem that plasma does where you get pretty bad burn-in with any like if you use it for like a computer if you use it for a computer screen
Starting point is 00:33:56 my uh my toolbar would just burn in because it doesn't move ever same i would have that same issue I think OLED Is great for a TV Where it's like the big TV In your living room that you use to watch movies And stuff on Fantastic Don't use it for anything else Yeah like OLED phones I'm on my second phone
Starting point is 00:34:20 With an OLED screen The old one it's like basically pink now Which was my old Galaxy Note 8 before I started trying out on my second phone with an OLED screen. The old one, it's like basically pink now. Which was my old Galaxy Note 8 before I started trying out my de-Google OS, Kallax OS on a Pixel. I'm so scared of the same thing happening to this phone. Yeah, this is why I buy like cheap mid-range phones. This is like $300.
Starting point is 00:34:40 That's $300 Australian, which is like $200 US. I got this Pixel 3a for 90 bucks oh nice yeah i only buy used well if you get if you get a de-googler anyway there's no point buying a new one that one's gonna know how to de-google anyway i i like the de-googled os but i miss my samsung i miss having the stylus from the note phones and stuff and the convenience that came with that to a lesser extent i miss the wireless payment but i can live without that it's mainly the stylus and stuff i've never got really got behind wireless payment i i use my um my card to do wireless payment but i've never really got behind
Starting point is 00:35:22 like use my phone for it It's for people like me who forget their wallet. That's fair. It has saved my ass so many times. Now with this phone, my wallet is a little magnetic thing that snaps to the back of my phone and folds over. So if I have my phone, I have my wallet. Less of an issue.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Actually, I'll show you why I can't forget my wallet. One second. I'm going to bring the mic with me. Oh no. Oh no. Mic arms are great. What am I about to witness? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I carry a bag with me. This is how. Oh. Well, yeah, that'll keep it from happening. I like having, like, you know, a bunch of stuff in my pockets. Kind of hard to forget your wallet if you've got a bag attached to your hip. Exactly. I actually know someone who left a laptop bag on a train, like with a laptop in it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Oh, no. $2,000 laptop just on the train. Oh, that would terrify me. I've got a bag for my laptop and stuff, which my laptop is crap. It has a pop-out disk drive. That's how old it is. That's impressive. Weirdly enough, though, it has one of the
Starting point is 00:36:35 OG Intel RealSense cameras. When Intel's trying to push those on laptops, it's got one of those early cameras. RealSense. That one? That's their 3D camera. Wait. I must have missed that one yeah no when they first came out with them for some reason they pushed them on laptops i don't know why tell reals in huh why what i don't know this i'm glad they exist because you could actually write a program for a 3d VTuber using the Intel RealSense camera as the alternative to using the iPhone face ID tracking.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Hmm. I don't know how well it would work with one of the old cameras. The old ones are okay. I could actually load it up in OBS and I see like a bunch of green lines showing the 3d image in a 2d space hmm uh i cannot get the normal camera working though which is weird but it's fine because it's just a laptop i'm not going to use it for any video calls or anything anyway i was just looking at something just to see if someone had done it using the connect camera for vtubing seems like some people have you can do it but the sdk is only on windows right okay that's fair enough
Starting point is 00:37:51 so you would literally have to write an entire new sdk in order to get it to work because i know the connect is actually like no one gave a shit about the connect when it was a gaming device but that thing is beloved in the research space that is such a cheap depth camera like oh yeah i have one still i have a 360 uh connect because before the connect if you sorry i had a 360 that i never used and it came with a connect yeah so just sitting around doing nothing now yeah i'm just like well i mean i might as well try it out i got an adapter or anything hooked it up to my windows pc and yeah if i want i installed the sdk and it could work um i couldn't get any software for it because it costed like i wanted to use it for like vr it's like a cheap vr setup but the program in order to use it was like 15 bucks and it's like yeah i'm poor that's fair but um what i was saying was the
Starting point is 00:38:47 connect the connect sort of like revolutionized um depth uh research big like yeah depth-based research because before that if you wanted to do any any research with a depth-based camera the depth base whatever you know what i'm saying the cameras would cost thousands of dollars the connect is like what a couple hundred and you can get a second hand way cheaper yeah um one thing i'm really excited for in terms of like vtubing 3d cameras is uh you can use uh the most common 3d camera used in v2 me is leap motion right leap motion has a linux sdk and a mac sdk they're significantly behind the windows one but they exist the um linux and mac sdk is like 2.7 or something and the windows sdk is 4.4 So it's like they were developing them all through operating systems together, going forward, every version together.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And then at some point they're just like, screw the Unix ones. And they just stopped. It's weird that you would throw like the Mac one away. I get throwing the Linux one away, but the Mac one, there would be some audience for it there. They threw away both of them at the same time and just solely focused on the Windows one only. That's weird. But the downloads are still there. You can still download it.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I've installed it on this computer. I don't have a Leap Motion, but eventually I would like to get one because shout out to a a developer uh you win they are developing an open source 3d vtuber program ah yes it's currently on github yeah it's currently on github under the name open c face dash gd what because it's yeah it OpenSeaFace and it's building Godot. Ah, right, right, right. Okay, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:54 It currently is being rewritten now from scratch and renamed using that as like a basis. And I am proud to say I came up with the name for the rewrite. And that is Virtual Streamer Software. That's much better than OpenSeaFace GD. Significantly better. her software that's much better than open c face gd significantly better um we also we tried to come up with the logo and uh that did not go well well this actually like this works surprisingly well in the state it's in yeah no it's it works really well it's just not the cleanest interface right actually the current interface is significantly better he has rewritten the interface three or four times now and i think the current one is
Starting point is 00:41:29 probably the best version that we've got so far i actually need to rebuild the latest uh version because he added some features that i've been waiting for like um what is it interpolation is that where you you make blend frames in between? I'm going to say yes. That sounds right. Yeah. Well, he added that in for the blinking and mouth movement. So now they're smooth instead of really choppy.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Right, right. Because initially they were locked to the frame rate that it would track at, which was 12 FPS. Totally fine for tracking. But if you don't interpolate the frames, then it looks realpy that makes sense he did interpolation on the model just didn't do it on the eyes and mouth well if you got it one step you at least can work out the rest of it then yeah exactly i mean it didn't look bad it's just if he added it would look better right right that makes sense though also someone started um contributing a ton of stuff to it out of nowhere it's like okay well i guess he thought he was going to do the rewrite
Starting point is 00:42:31 like next year or something he's already kind of started on it he's like wow i'm much faster than i expected that's hey some look maybe there's a a secret program of each of you wants to use it or something maybe i mean that's kind of what he he made the default model for it which was just this low poly duck yes i saw that one yeah yeah that's what he uses his vtuber now beautiful to the point that someone made a logo for osfgd where it's just a pixelated duck it's not a bad look like look a logo just needs to be something that makes it memorable at the end of the day yeah i kind of work a logo for uh vss with like this like purple gradient with like a white v and then two s's it's like so you've just got like ss in the center of it i was like oh yeah maybe we should change that maybe we should go with the
Starting point is 00:43:30 pixelated duck honestly i i feel like you should just use the pixelated duck on both because i feel like that's just a better logo i see that um uh live 2d support isn't there yet but it is a planned feature ideally yes open c uh live 2d is very finicky on in order to be um let's see where should i start the story so i should actually start with vtube studio vtube studio was initially planned to be open source right um however they had to stop that because in order to be officially licensed they couldn't be open source and they're just like they wanted the credibility of being officially licensed so decided to not make it open source totally understandable i still trust this developer so it's fine um but there is another group uh vignette who's working on making an open source implementation of light 2d.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Ooh. However, they, all they've done is just made an interface and that's about it. And they just keep reworking their interface over and over and over again. I think, I think they're worried that,
Starting point is 00:44:40 um, if it doesn't look absolutely perfect and professional, no one's going to use it, which I mean, it's legitimate fear, but it's just like, I mean, if you doesn't look absolutely perfect and professional no one's going to use it which i mean it's legitimate fear but it's just like i mean if you don't make it work no one's going to use it anyway yeah that's fair it's this weird little catch-22 i think they've got themselves in though i still am excited for the project i hope that eventually that you get it working and that it get it up and running because the interface looks absolutely beautiful it is one of the best
Starting point is 00:45:04 looking interfaces for an open switch project i've seen period i hope so with that much effort in the interface so you can compile then download the interface as it is right now off github it looks amazing it is super well polished yeah i'm having a look at it right now it actually looks really good it's one of the best looking open source interfaces I've seen because not a lot of designers get into open source. Anyway, yes. Open source. You took VTube Studio. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:36 We had to be on sidetrack there. Welcome to Tangent, the episode. What were we talking about initially? Live 2D implementation being jank. Yeah, yeah. So they've worked on making an open source live 2D implementation. And when they get that working, UN is going to look into adding that to OpenCV so we can do 2D and 3D.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Similar to a program on Steam called Vup, which can do 2D and 3D. I'm not crazy about their approach for it because the way they work is that your vtube your vtuber is rendered in a separate window from the actual program so the program uses two windows which i'm not crazy about though of course it keeps your interface handed at all time when you're capturing it so i guess that is an upside that is that's. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I guess if you have like a three monitor setup, it's not as big of a deal. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Well, I technically have a three monitor setup. I have a TV behind my monitor. I technically have a four monitor setup because I have two virtual desktops. Yeah, that works. I would like to have like,
Starting point is 00:46:43 at some point when I actually have room I want to have some monitor arms and actually have a third monitor on an arm that would be really nice I'd like to have a vertical monitor I could have for just chat that's not a bad idea actually I might have to do that
Starting point is 00:46:58 as I have it right now I have OBS and then I have Firefox with a link to my direct Twitch chat, the little pop-out thing you can do. Right, right. And I just have them side-by-side with the Twitch chat just squished down as thin as they can go and then OBS taking up the rest of the screen.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Ah, that makes sense. And that works relatively well. I've got most of my stuff sitting on a second monitor. One of the nice things about tiling Window Manager, it just handles it all for me. So I've got my pulse mixer open, OBS, and also my file manager just to make sure
Starting point is 00:47:31 I actually started recording. It was a good one to have. Now that I think about it, I can just take a screenshot of it because I have it basically set up the same way already. I just got to open Firefox. And basically set up the same way already i just got open firefox and nope not you the bookmarks one and go to twitch chat ah i use um i use the uh the restream chat for mine because i do restreaming uh yeah i don't bother with that because affiliate right ah yep yep that makes sense yeah that's the reason why i think i'm almost at affiliate if i wanted to get it but like
Starting point is 00:48:11 i'm not going to because of restreaming i think restreaming is too valuable yeah you've already built up your audience to be on different platforms so for you it would just shoot yourself in the foot well at some point i might it's just right now i don't think it really makes any sense fair okay uh well when it finally processes i don't know why it's taking so long to process a png what's this this is a screenshot of my setup for like oh yes and my chat next to each other i don't know why it's taking its sweet ass time to send it what this is good content this is very good content oh there it goes
Starting point is 00:49:01 oh okay wait let's see can i so that's how my second monitor looks open link there we go yes open the link don't i don't care that's how you ah okay okay right right so that's how it is my second monitor which is off to my right side and then my main monitor is just directly facing me yeah okay oh okay you're a sensible person cool i don't get the people who have two monitors that have like both angled yeah i don't get that i mean maybe if you play games in ultrawide and you've got one of those little plastic things that like blends the monitors together i guess maybe ultrawide i feel like that would still work better as
Starting point is 00:49:46 a three monitor setup with one centered the only problem I have with ultrawide is it sort of gets in the way of doing captures I have to segment off the 1080p section I want to capture and it's just a mess like that I don't want an ultrawide
Starting point is 00:50:02 I just want more room for more 1080p monitors Like there's There's ways In X-Randy you can actually turn Like a single monitor into Like multiple virtual monitors So I could make it work It's just jank
Starting point is 00:50:17 And a lot of programs don't play nicely with it Yeah plus Because I stream basically every game I play on my PC now I just want it to be the same resolute or uh aspect ratio as the game's gonna run at right right that makes sense most games are made for a 16 by 9 with a couple of them supporting ultra wide unless you want to play a racing game in which case ultra wide all day i don't play racing games i don't see a kind of a racing game i play that sometimes racing sections of gta yeah but then again i played in third person so
Starting point is 00:50:56 ah yeah mainly no you definitely wouldn't want it like that then maybe i i'm weird i like to play racing stuff in first person if i can see the car edges instead of just the camera like a bump i don't like a bumper can oh no i want a bumper cam but i want to see where the edges of my car are in that view because i did i don't know if you saw on stream i was playing yakuza and doing dragon cart and i was playing in first-person mode. And I had no idea where the edges of my car were, so I was bumping into walls.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I remember a lot of early PS2 titles did the bumper cam sort of thing. I've never... I can't... If you're going to have bumper cam, just don't even have first-person. Yeah, fair. When I was growing up playing Need for speed um which one was it was one of the ones on the gamecube need for seed underground 2 oh that's fun one uh yeah i play it with bumper
Starting point is 00:51:53 cam every time that is the way i had to play that's why i grew up playing racing games was using the bumper cam so that's now like my default for anything that has racing and stuff in it. I want to have a bumper cam. God, I guess there's an audience. Sure. Sure. Someone's, I don't know why this still exists.
Starting point is 00:52:16 That's how I got the spatial awareness in 3d racing games was from that perspective. No, I, I, I, I like my third party. My third, third party.
Starting point is 00:52:24 God damn. Third person. Third person. God damn. Third person. Third person. That one. Third person camera. Yeah. The third person camera I like and stuff like Mario Kart and typically now Dragon Kart in Yakuza and in ETA.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Now that bumper cams seem to have kind of fading away. That's now my backup. Now that bumper cams seem to have kind of fading away, that's now my backup. So I'm probably going to play Yakuza at some point, but let's just assume that I wasn't. If you wanted to sell someone on Yakuza, how would you do it?
Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't know. Yakuza Like a Dragon is the only one I've played. Oh, that's fair. Okay, how would you sell me on that game then? Do you like Dragon Quest? Uh, sure, yes. It's a giant love letter to Dragon Quest. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 00:53:14 That's not what I had expected, sure. It's literally just a giant love letter to Dragon Quest. It's great. Okay, sure. That's not where I expected that to go. it is the only game in the series like this the rest of them are like that sort of more action-packed fighting game right right but this one is a full-on jrpg that's just a giant love letter to dragon quest which i love dragon quest i've played dragon quest 4 dragon quest 5 dragon, Dragon Quest 9. 9 is great. I love 9. 9 is one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:53:48 RPGs on the DS. What was it called? Centurions of the Starry Sky. Yeah, there we go. It's been so long since I've played that. I don't think... Same, but I remember the name. I don't know why I remember it so well, but I do.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Man. That's a fun game. That was a really fun game. I think that might have been my first JRPG as well. I have a feeling it was. I don't think it was my first one. I think my first true introduction to JRPGs was... Well, Pokemon, if you count that.
Starting point is 00:54:24 But outside of that, probably Kingdom Hearts. Okay, yeah. Kingdom Hearts doesn't have really much It has RPG mechanics but they're fairly light. It's an action RPG is what it is.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, yeah. It's got the same baseline mechanics of an RPG but it's using an action combat system instead of a turn-based right right right right yeah that makes sense akin to like what the final fantasy 7 remake is using or one of the modes for it you can set it to turn base which is probably how i'll end up playing it i've never played final fantasy 7 like at all i have never finished it ah i've played the beginning section but i've never finished it i've actually never finished a final fantasy game i finished uh 10
Starting point is 00:55:13 10 is 10 is very good that i know it's good i just i haven't finished it um the closest i can say to saying i finished a final fantasy game was I finished A Realm Reborn in Final Fantasy XIV. Which is great, except I have three, about to be four more expansions after that. Yeah, I have a problem. So I've been watching Asmongold recently and I kind of want to play Final Fantasy XIV, but like I know if I do,
Starting point is 00:55:41 I'm going to sink a lot of time into it. Have you tried the extended free trial at the critically acclaimed mmorpg final fantasy 14 you can play through the entirety of a realm reborn and the award-winning heaven sword expansion up to level 60 with no restriction on playtime yes thank you this is a problem i have to say the copypasta. I have to. It's required. It's in the terms of service for the game. There's so much free content.
Starting point is 00:56:10 This is the problem. I know that with all this free content, I will get addicted to it. Because I played RuneScape. I'm not even done with the free content. I played RuneScape for seven years. I know what's going to happen when I play Final Fantasy. Oh, speaking of runescape did you hear about the shit show that was what jag x did the runelite hd plugin yeah yep that was if anyone
Starting point is 00:56:37 basically uh runescape has multiple clients, and the main client is shit. No one runs the main client. If you run the main client, you just started the game. You don't know other clients exist. So everyone who plays RuneScape, at least old-school RuneScape, plays with RuneLight. It's an open-source client,
Starting point is 00:56:58 and there's a plug-in system, and all of this fun stuff. The plug-in system, they do moderate the plug-ins. Some plug-ins are there just purely for hacking, in which case they will just, like, get rid of them. But this plugin was a fan-made HD remake of the game. So I think it was in, like, 2008 or something, RuneScape had, like, a massive graphics upgrade,
Starting point is 00:57:18 but old-school RuneScape was a server set before that. So this plugin was going to basically bring those graphics up past that HD remake, but not change any gameplay. It was a project for, was it three? It took the original art style and just essentially upscaled them all and just remade the textures to be HD versions of the same textures. Sure, sure, yeah. But it was going to bring it more like further along like they're
Starting point is 00:57:45 gonna look better textures it looked really good it looks significantly better um okay good runescape standards but much better anyway how long was the project going for like two three years something like that he's it was definitely years i can't remember the exact number but i know it was one of my one of my buddies from work has been playing old school runescape since it released right right so um this is how i know about this so this project was in the works for a very long time jag x is well aware that it was in the works like this guy had like everybody knew any anyone playing runescape at the time knew this was in the works. Yeah, he had released trailers and stuff for it.
Starting point is 00:58:28 It was all over social media. It was impossible to not know about it if you were in the RuneScape community. And then, I think it was the day of or day before that it was going to be released. It was sent through to RuneLight. They checked it over to make sure, like, you know, there's nothing sketchy in there. It's not going to be, you know, a cheating tool or anything like that. They'd approved it. They contacted Jagex and Jagex were like, no, we want to make our own HD client.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'm going to sell it. I didn't even hear that. I just heard that they just DMCA'd him and just said, no, you can't do this. Oh, no, no. They didn't explicitly say that was the reason why they did it, but they are working on their own HD client. That's the going theory? Well, they are working on their own HD client.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Well, they are working on their own HD client. That is known. They've already said that. And they're going to be charging for it. But, this caused a massive, massive backlash with, like, massive unsubscriptions, and then the, because this wasn't done by the
Starting point is 00:59:23 OSRS team. They were, like, really happy for this to happen. It was corporate. Corporate, like, subscriptions and then the uh because this wasn't done by the like the osrs team they were like really happy for this to happen it was corporate corporate like wait we can make money off of this how can we find this let's just stop them um so corporate stop it the people above the old school runescape team yep yep and when they realized they were losing shit loads of money like wait okay you can have your plugin we're still gonna work on the HD version though uh so I don't know what's gonna happen when that actually comes out
Starting point is 00:59:51 they honestly they might try to take the plugin down again once the like that actually comes out it's it's possible the way it's smart move to do would be not touch it licenses plugin make it official what they could have done is they could have I think the smart move to do would be to just license this plugin. Make it official.
Starting point is 01:00:09 What they could have done is they could have hired the dude. Just like, hey. They might as well. It's just like, oh, you made all this for this RuneLight thing? Yeah, take it off RuneLight. We're going to pay you. Put it in our thing. But the problem is, like, if they'd shut it down day one like no you cannot make an hd plugin fair fair enough but the fact they waited so long after all
Starting point is 01:00:36 of the like after it was done they waited till yeah that's the fact that he just i have it it's done years of work i just can't release it. Mm-hmm. But the worst part about this is, it's not actually the first HD plugin. Like, there are other clients for Bruinscape that are HD clients. Are they just basic up-reses, though? I don't know if they're basic up-reses or re-textures, but there are at least other clients that do change the textures. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It was just this one was so popular. Yeah. That's, that's, that's wow. I can't believe it. Corporate. Corporate will make money wherever they can. Every time. Like I've been, I've been getting back into like
Starting point is 01:01:26 MMO stuff and it's very bad like I've been watching Asmongold, I've been watching people like Josh Strife Hayes and I I don't want to play an MMO but a part of me wants to I've tried a bunch of different MMOs and Final Fantasy XIV has been
Starting point is 01:01:42 the only one I've enjoyed mainly because i sometimes forget that it's an mmo yeah well that that's what a lot of people like say when people are saying to give it a shot like play it as a final fantasy game and then it's an forget about the mo stuff for now just deal with that later yeah no and i mean that's my problem with mmos is that the style of how they tell stories in mmos is like through little text boxes and fetch quests i hate that i hate that so much i will get so tired of that's part of the reason why i don't play like dark souls and stuff other than like
Starting point is 01:02:19 the brutally hard difficulty that i know i'd be frustrated with and i don't finish i there's a story in dark souls yeah no if you read through the item descriptions in dark souls it tells a story i i know look i want the story for dark so i'll go watch like vadi video or one of the youtube channels about it i'm not going to deal with the item descriptions yeah but telling the story through like item descriptions and text boxes the only time i've enjoyed that was in like the metroid prime series sure and that's because the point of the game was exploration and you're supposed to just scan things and put it all together that's fun that's like solving a puzzle in dark souls or in um um in an mmo you're doing this tedious task over and over again that's the same thing over and over again, and your only reward for doing it is two sentences.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Hi, I have a quest for you. Go kill five goblins and I'll tell you the rest of the story. Go kill these five goblins and then I'll give you the task to actually go to the mini-boss to then defeat to bring me back an item in order to go to this major boss and then come back in order for me to tell you another two sentences i i've watched i i watched asm play like the intro section of final fantasy 14 there was like a 15 minute cut scene before the game even started like what is this this is not what an mmo does like what is what um fair warning if you end up playing it on linux i think you have to skip that cut scene and watch it later i'll just play it on linux i think you have to skip that cutscene and watch it later i'll just play it on windows it'll be easier that's the only one it's just that opening cutscene i didn't even know it was gonna work under linux oh yeah i've only played it on linux
Starting point is 01:03:55 oh wow yeah no it works fantastically uh especially if you buy it on steam steam is the easiest way to do it right right you literally you just turn on proton um start it up you open a config file you change a zero to a one or two to a one i load it up again open another config file change it two to a one and then you're done i was sure i read that it was balked maybe i'm just blind no no it's not no okay it's gold wow okay that i didn't know no it's almost platinum if it wasn't for having to change those two little config files it would be platinum huh because you just have to skip the opening movie and change it back to the old style launcher but all the other jetsies work except for one cutscene when you get to an airship
Starting point is 01:04:46 and the realm reborn for some reason that cutscene won't play you'll have to skip it wow i didn't realize it that that's impressive wow cool sure and if you don't want to use the steam version there's a luchas install script for a third-party launcher called the XIV Launcher. You can just use that. I hear that buying the game is confusing. Yes, it absolutely is.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Buy it on Steam. There's different versions you can buy, but they're incompatible with each other or something? If you buy it on Steam, you can play on either the Steam launcher or the standalone launcher. If you buy it standalone, you can only use the standalone launcher. You can't use the Steam launcher. Also, if you buy it on PC, you can't play it on PlayStation. You have to buy it again on PlayStation.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Right. And all the expansions you'd have to buy again. it again on playstation right i was saying all the expansions you'd have to buy again there was also something about like um if you bought like end walker you wouldn't be able to like get access to the other stuff until end walker came out or something yeah you have to wait for it to release but um if you buy the newest expansion you get all the previous ones so like when i when i bought the game i went ahead and bought shadowbringer so i got everything before then and then like a month later they did this free trial that's become the poppy pasta was like oh i didn't need to buy all these yet i could have waited every time i hear someone talk about final
Starting point is 01:06:16 fantasy the only complaint they ever bring up is that it's hard to give them money like if that is your biggest problem with your game i think you've got a good game. Absolutely. It is a fantastic game. Also, another weird quirk about playing on Linux, if you use the standalone launcher, controllers are weird. For some reason, if I play with the standalone launcher,
Starting point is 01:06:38 I can sometimes get a controller to work, and then sometimes it won't want to work. If I do it through the Steam launcher, it works fine. I was probably going to play keyboard and mouse anyway. Yeah. Can the controller set up for it? It's actually fantastic. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Because if you didn't know, the game initially released on the PlayStation 3. Right. Yes, it did, didn't it? It is an MMO that is built around a controller. Hmm. At least the earlier versions are. The later versions are built with both in mind now. So it's not as problematic.
Starting point is 01:07:09 But a lot of the early classes are very easy to play on the controller. I might look into it then. Yeah, yeah. Healer classes are fantastic on controller because it's so easy. If I did anything else, I would not want to use a controller. I don't know. I might look into it then. I typically would not want to use a controller i don't know i might look into it then i like i typically play action rpgs with the controller um usually xbox controller but there's a few exceptions like if i'm if i'm emulating something on the ps2 because i want
Starting point is 01:07:36 my button prompts to make sense i'll just use my ps4 controller but like yeah definitely i would recommend ps4 controller especially since it has native support for it. You don't need to use Steam inputs. Ah, yeah, yeah, makes sense. Don't use a Switch controller if you want just an easy out-of-the-box experience because it'll work and it'll show you Xbox prompts. Sure, okay. It's not fun, especially for an MMO
Starting point is 01:07:57 where your face buttons are your spells. Aren't, am I just imagining something? Aren't the buttons swapped on the Switch compared to the Xboxbox controller yeah um so if you're listing them um bottom right left top xbox is a b x y and switch is b a y x right okay yes i personally prefer the Switch layout because it's what I grew up with. I never actually had a Nintendo or Xbox console as a kid. I only played PlayStation 2. We had...
Starting point is 01:08:35 My first ever game console was a Nintendo Entertainment System. Oh, I guess I got a... And then a Game Boy Color. I got a Nintendo handheld, but I never played home console. Yeah, i had a nintendo entertainment system and then i jumped straight to gamecube right yeah that was that was a story wait so did you how wait how how old was the the nest when you got it then it was used right my first game console was a used game
Starting point is 01:09:07 console from this store that i don't think they even exist anymore um but my dad got it for me because um we wanted to play video games now because we had we had gotten old enough where he had an interest in video games he's like well you know what i know about this one from my older siblings uh when they were growing up because i'm on i'm a second set of kids which that's a whole rabbit hole i'm not gonna get into um so he's like well they like the the nintendo let's get an original nintendo we got it i'm just and so we got it. I'm just like, what is this? Everyone was playing with like a Nintendo 64 and stuff and 3D graphics. And then I loaded up and we started playing the games.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm just like, oh, this is what Mario came from. Oh, this is cool. And so I, and to this day, Super Mario Bros 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. Can't say I've ever played it, but I do hear it's very good. It is so much fun. Never it never beat it um even the original mario brothers i've never beat the furthest i've gotten in original mario brothers is world six right but it's so anyway we got that and then years went went by. We never got any new consoles because not a whole lot of money. But then for Christmas, we got a GameCube. So we skipped two entire generations.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I got my consoles really late. I got my PS2 in 2005 2004 it was a few years before the ps3 came out and then i got my ps3 i got mine i got my ps3 i think like two years before the ps4 came out i always just buy consoles late or just get given them late if i was um i i didn't have a ps4 until a year ago oh wow yeah um that was fun uh i think about mine there was like a special something at the time when i bought it so it was it was cheaper than it normally would be but say i only have a ps4 pro because i was given two broken ps4s that I then paid to have fixed.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Right. Sold one of them to my best friend's little brother. The other one I traded into a GameStop for a PS4 Pro. Wow. So I got a used PS4 Pro with a major discount because I traded in a PS4. That's nice. So I was like, okay, I came in on PS4. That's nice. So I was like, okay, I came in on top with this one.
Starting point is 01:11:49 At this point, if I was to buy a PS5, it would just be a PS4 emulator anyway. Like, I don't know any PS5 games I would play. I mean, I'd be interested in Spider-Man Miles Morales, but that'd be about it. Maybe the new Ratchet and Clank game. Ah, yeah, that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I would play that and Tales of Arise, and'd be about it. Maybe the new Ratchet and Clank game? Ah, yeah, that. Okay. I would play that and Tales of Arise and that's about it. Tales of Arise, I'd want to get that on PC. Yeah, I can play it on PC anyway. I presume it works perfectly under Proton. I don't see any reason why. I don't actually know. Let's find out. I know the other Tales games do.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Tales of Arise. I played Berseria on Proton. As a Platinum rating. Hey, nice. Nice. Perfect. Perfect. Apparently some versions of Proton are having controller issues,
Starting point is 01:12:40 but just avoid those versions and you're good. Oh, Tales of Symphonia is only a gold rating. Oh, that's sad. I've got, um, I've got Berseria sitting over my shelf here. I really need to finish Berseria. It's very good. Berseria's really good. I played it in
Starting point is 01:12:58 the jankest way possible, because it was before my PC upgrade. Initially, when I was playing it, I could not run it and my vtuber at the same time oh i could only do one or the other so i was trying to play it i went through the beginning of the game through it and it was just it was so choppy when i got to the first big city i was like you know what screw it i installed it on my Windows PC and I played it through remote play. The upside to playing it on a Windows PC was that I could use a mod to change the Xbox button prompts to PlayStation button prompts.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Which that's, I, God, I wish you could do that on Linux. Wait, wait. I'm sorry, what? It doesn't have PlayStation button prompts on PC? No, because the PC is a port of the Xbox version So they didn't add an Xbox button prompt Or PlayStation button prompts It's just Xbox for controller It's a JRPG
Starting point is 01:13:55 It's made in Japan Get it to what? What are you? What? Yeah It's weird I don't know why The PC version only has
Starting point is 01:14:03 Xbox button prompts. That's so weird. But there's a mod to add it in. It's just the mod is... The mod installs through an installer that's only on Windows. I think if you found the files and knew where they went,
Starting point is 01:14:20 you could do it manually and get it to work on Linux. I just don't know how to get the files by themselves run the installer through wine i guess pause i tried that it can't find the installation path yeah okay fair enough um i it loads in wine it just it can't find where the game is installed because it's looking for the windows install directory and it's not there even it could find the path it probably would be coded around windows pods and the uh the slash is backwards on windows oh no in uh in white it sees backslashes as forward slashes okay so it's just for slash backslashes um because if i if i go through a file picker on a program in Wine, my directory is z slash home slash...
Starting point is 01:15:08 It sees Linux as a z drive. At least it works. I don't know why it's... Yeah, no. So, I mean, it can find it. I imagine z is probably like a fallback then. I actually have never seen that before. Or it has to assign a sub-label.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I was testing to see if I could get Photoshop to run in Wine. I know there's been some work on getting that actually working. Photoshop CC 2015 works almost perfectly in Wine,
Starting point is 01:15:36 but that is the only one I've ever been able to get working. Yeah. It's a lot of work. You might as well just... If you really need Photoshop, Dual Boot, VM, you look, it's a lot of work. You might as well just, if you really, if you really need Photoshop, dual boot VM, just do that. Otherwise, like most people, most, like, unless you're doing professional work.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Most people can get away with GIMP. You can get away with it. Yeah. I use GIMP. GIMP works fine. Yeah. GIMP, it's not the same as Photoshop, but it's so similar. It has so many of the same tools that most people can get away with using it
Starting point is 01:16:05 yeah yeah i well at the end of the day there's also um it's not it's not actually like an official adobe thing but there is a photoshop clone uh web client uh yeah it's like photopia or something like that yeah yeah i think that's what it's called. That, it's not, doesn't have everything Photoshop has, but if you really need, like... It's a lot more of it. Yeah, and if you need, like, the proper support of the Photoshop PSD files, it generally works for that.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Yeah, on GIMP, it can, like, open the layers, and that's about it. That's because GIMP and Photoshop layers work very differently. Well, everything else is done completely differently. I think the layers are the only similarity they have. They actually do handle some stuff really weirdly with layers. I know layer grouping works very differently and that by itself breaks breaks stuff layer clipping is really weird too i got a psd file for my vtuber um and it did not clip any of the colors okay luckily there was a final version that
Starting point is 01:17:16 had the outline right that i could alpha select and then erase all the other layers to where they would be within that, what should be clipped. Oh god. So, saved itself, but uh, yeah. That's, that's a solution I guess. Yeah. It works. If it's stupid, but it works, it's not stupid.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Sure, yep. We'll go with that. Why not? That's my entire career as a vtuber it works in the dumbest way possible but it works look you gotta have look there's some people who want to do stuff properly but hey look at the end of the day you should be right you be good just let it happen it is it is what it is and it shall always be that You be good. Just let it happen. It is what it is. And it shall always be that. So what's another tangent we can go on now? We're on the video game train. We can keep going down video games.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I've got a DS emulator set up. And I've got a game that you like downloaded. Oh. I've got The World Ends With You downloaded and I want to be playing that soon. Yes. Oh, because you've got your drawing tablet you can use. I do, yes. Yes, I have it. I have it here. Oh, wait, but yours
Starting point is 01:18:40 is the one without the screen. Yeah. I've gotten used to it. Well, yeah, because you can see where the mouse is while you're still hovering the pen, can't you? Yeah, yeah. Okay, then you should be able to do fairly well with it. I want to be able to see the screen,
Starting point is 01:18:57 which is why I run my... The world ends with you if I ran it on an emulator. And Pokemon Ranger. I'd run those on a ds emulator on my tablet on my android tablet and then i just screen copy that over to my screen and plug in an aux cable because headphone jack everything should have a headphone jack stop getting rid of it please what oh that's another nice thing about buying mid-range phones they still have headphone jacks yeah uh pixel 3a headphone jack because the cheaper one has more features that makes sense anyway yes um uh tablet what
Starting point is 01:19:36 ends with you pokemon ranger yes yeah i when i first started i i booted up the game i was like oh it plays it's one of these games that plays on the fucking bottom screen. Yeah, this is why I say that you want to have a touchscreen for it. Technically, it plays on both. I say the best way to play the DS version is on an actual DS because of the way it's designed. is on an actual DS because of the way it's designed. You, your character, Neku, is on the bottom screen
Starting point is 01:20:08 using touch controls, and your partner is on the top screen, and you control them with the D-pad. They have different, depending on who you're playing, so when you're playing with your first partner, Shiki, the way they work is that they have cards that appear, and if you select the cards
Starting point is 01:20:26 that matches using the d-pad to select which card um so like up will be the center card left will be the left card right will be the right card if you pick the card that matches she attacks and the more you get right in a row the more the combo does damage right at the same time you're fighting on the bottom screen using the touch controls with your other hand okay this is gonna take a little bit to get used to isn't it yeah it's gonna be really weird on an emulator i'll make it work it's one of those games that they took full advantage of the original hardware and it's really hard to play it any other way that's why when they ported it to like phones and to the switch they reworked the combat system to work better for a single screen right okay but that's part of the reason why i love the game and why it's one of my favorite games of all time is because it worked so well for its original
Starting point is 01:21:15 platform it was one of the few games that really took full advantage of the fact that like you have two screens you have two different input methods use them they're available to you what what about brain age brain age used both screens very well brain age was i can't even say anything i owned brain age i did as well that's the worst part about it it's one of those games that like you got it and you're just like why did i get this again exactly but um man pokemon ranger is another really good game i love those games i wish they would make a new one i i've got pokemon snap maybe maybe we can get a range maybe we got pokemon uh mystery dungeon deluxe which I wasn't as crazy about, though apparently it is better than I initially gave it credit.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I didn't get too far into it before. I was just like, this is so weirdly different from the original. Isn't that a remake of one of them? It's a remake of the original Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team. Mmm. Which, that was a very weird system, because Red Rescue Team was on the Game Boy Advance, and Blue Rescue Team was on the DS.
Starting point is 01:22:31 They were released during that time when they were saying, no, the DS is not a replacement for the Game Boy, it's the third pillar. Lo and behold, it replaced the Game Boy. Wait, was that a thing that was actually being said? Oh yes, at E3 What was it, E3 2006 i want to say
Starting point is 01:22:47 right um reggie fils-aimé that is a direct quote from him it's because they were worried the ds was gonna flop so they didn't want to just kill off the game boy line in case it did and then it exploded and they're just like oh okay yeah no okay so what they were gonna be doing was having like clamshell consoles that's why so many games released on both gameboy and ds for a little bit huh but because of that system if you had both red rescue team and blue rescue team and you had a ds light you could play both of them infinitely and fail as many times as you want and never have to lose your progress because you could send a rescue mail to the game in the slot in the other slot and just answer it on that game yep and you
Starting point is 01:23:40 could just infinitely do that back and forth. I did own both of them. I only had Red Rescue Team. I had it on my Game Boy Advance SP, and then I got Explorers of Sky on the DS. Oh, you got Sky, did you? Yes. I played Sky years later. I originally got Time.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yes. I skipped out. Excuse me. Holy crap. I don't know where that came from uh I skipped out on time and darkness because poor I could not afford to buy games very often Sky is basically the
Starting point is 01:24:18 persona for Golden of Mystery Dungeon that's what I heard so I was like alright I might as well like they changed the they changed some stuff of Mystery Dungeon. That's what I heard, so I was just like, alright, I might as well. They changed some stuff later on, but up until the end of the game, it's basically the same with extra content in Sky.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Yeah, no, I absolutely loved it. It's probably my favorite from the Mystery Dungeon series. There was another actual extra Mystery Dungeon game that came out on the switch i think i just i i watched the let's play of it it wasn't very good uh no no it was on the it was on it was on the way it was um a puzzle no no wait it was a mystery dungeon style it was the one with the little figurine ones no i don't i think there was another one with the little figurine ones. No, I don't. I think there was another one in there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Give me one second. I'll check the list. There were two on the 3DS. There was Super Mystery Dungeon and Dimension Through Space or something like that. One of which people thought was, it's alright. The other one was just like, this is the stupidest gimmick I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Oh, actually, okay. I actually missed a couple of games in here then. I can't remember which one it was but one of them in order to go into a dungeon you had to point the 3ds camera at a circle in reality what any circle it could be any circle just had to be a circle stop stop it stop and everyone is just like this is the stupidest thing ever. Console cameras work in some... Like, don't look for something in the real world, but if it's a game where you're a photographer or something, you're moving around the Switch or whatever console it is.
Starting point is 01:25:57 They were just trying to haphazardly throw the 3DS's AR capabilities in there. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Like, stop. Which, the 3DS's ar with the ar cards that was super cool that was fun to mess around with should not have gone any further they should have just been like here's a fun little gimmick that came with your game play with it on your 3ds in the camera app well nintendo does make like cool stuff like that though like they'll just like throw something the wall like is this gonna work no okay we've got a lot of money it doesn't matter they are have you ever watched arlo arlo no he is a youtuber who
Starting point is 01:26:32 is a blue little muppet monster guy sure and he has coined the frame that nintendo are the king of left field sure okay because everything they do is just like well that came out of left field yeah that works um i mean think about it we're releasing our new home console oh wow also it's a portable you can take with you wait what if i was to act i don't own a switch but if i was to own a switch i probably would never I don't own a Switch, but if I was to own a Switch, I probably would never use it as a home console. I would always just use it as a handheld.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I use both. The only way to capture from a Switch is to have it as a home console. That's fair, yeah. Which is how I now mostly play my games, but I love handheld gaming so much. I haven't owned a handheld in a really like a really long time though like i i if you never plan sometimes i guess but yeah if you never plan to ever stream switch games or nintendo games ever in your entire life you can buy a switch light which is only a handheld right i would want to stream stuff at some point though yeah at that point you need to get an
Starting point is 01:27:42 original switch which you can't see it but my switch has custom joy cons oh nice i did a shell swap and they're clear what's that's pretty cool not colored clear just plain clear so you can see all the circuit boards and stuff it's so cool i love it oh i i think that does look cool it's just not my thing. I don't really like the clear sort of the style. I love clear electronics. Mm-hmm. Where you can see all the circuitry and stuff in it. The hard part for those is making it to where the electronics look pretty inside the clear casing.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Because if you've got, like, metal plates on top of everything and you put it clear, well, then it's basically just silver at that point yeah that's fair oh yeah i'm looking at um i'll send it to you uh someone made a clear show for the xbox one controller but like it's it's not that impressive looking oh it's just, yeah. Just, ah, plate. Yeah. Yeah, see? That doesn't look very good. Because it's got that black plastic on top of all the electronics.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah. I'm sure that, like, if it's designed... Oh, okay, actually. I guess, I guess in some cases, like, I'll see if you can see it. Like, if you look up the clear PS4 controller, which is an official controller from Sony. These earphones have a clear show. You probably can't see it too well.
Starting point is 01:29:15 It's like a... I guess it's a yellowed clear plastic, but... You can... Oh, yeah, but those are... Those are... IEMs. Yeah Oh yeah, but those are, those are, um, IEMs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are, they don't, it doesn't matter what they look like because they're meant to just function well.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Look, some people like the look of having certain earphones in there. It's like, people buy, like, AirPods as a fashion statement. Yeah, like, I went to a concert. I saw, uh, Nathan Sharp, Nate Wants to Battle, in concert. His in-ear monitors were green because his favorite color is green. Sure. No one's going to actually notice that. I only happened to see it because the side of his face was turned to me while he was talking to someone.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I just happened to notice it. But you're saying we had a clear PlayStation controller? Yeah, there's an official clear playstation controller for which which console uh ps4 oh i didn't know that ps4 clear controller yeah they're like 70 because those things have gotten so expensive now but see that looks really good because you can see like the gear motors there's nothing covering the electronics or the rumble motors i should say not gear motors oh yeah yeah i see it okay yeah that was pretty cool oh yeah you have to be very smart with clear electronics you have to make sure that you can actually see the cool components and stuff and they're not just covered by something else yeah i actually do like that hmm i don't know i can't right it's very tasteful maybe i'm just boring my go-to is
Starting point is 01:30:54 usually white controllers when they're available oh god i'm gonna drop it i will not do white anymore i got my ds light and my dsi in white and they're like covered in like orange and yellow from cheetos and stuff now i'm just like well nope not doing this anymore clean your controllers then i was a freaking like 12 year old kid sure there's no excuse now no excuse now no um but i've now i'm just to the point of just like if i'm eating something well i guess i'm not playing video games i've eaten something yeah i i point of just like, if I'm eating something, well, I guess I'm not playing video games. I've eaten something.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Yeah. I, I usually just watch some anime when I'm eating something. Um, however, my eight bit dough controller, which has become my go-to PC controller for now is, the PlayStation one gray.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Ooh. Okay. And it's got the same coloring though. It's on the different places because i think that color configuration might be copyrighted so like it's using the nintendo button layout but it's the symmetrical stick layout like playstation controllers do but like um if you now that i've told you where those button placements are the b is red the a is green the x is pink and the y is blue ah okay okay okay that makes sense i wish that the colors were in their proper places so i could just
Starting point is 01:32:12 look at the colors for if i'm playing like an x a playstation game i can just see blue blue is x right right even though i know the playstation placements by heart so it's not that big a deal i play yakuza with this controller and i use playstation prompts on it which uh yakuza like a dragon has this really weird quirk it tells you when you start the game up real yakuza play with a gamepad yet if you are not constantly giving it an input giving it a controller input, it goes back to PC prompts. As soon as you give it an input, it goes back to whatever controller you're using. Sure, okay. I've seen games like this. I don't know why. If you touch your mouse or something, they'll swap to
Starting point is 01:32:57 the mouse and keyboard inputs, but I've never seen you swap for no reason. That's what GTA does, and I'm fine with that. Yakuza, if it's not getting a controller input it defaults to pc prompts oh that actually reminds me so i'm playing through isa right now and it has like a setting to like change between like xbox playstation or just generic input um like button prompts but it will automatically change if you start pressing something else. It's like, there's no reason to use the setting. The setting does not work.
Starting point is 01:33:29 I wish every game had a setting where you can just tell it what button prompts you want, and it would just stay that. Yeah, that'd be lovely. Or you could set it to be like smart input, where it detects which one you're using, which is probably what I'd use for GTA, because I like to do the driving and stuff with a controller but i'll actually do the shooting and stuff with mouse and keyboard actually what would be nice is it would be nice to like be able to customize the button probably if you have you know you have a set of like abxy most most album like controllers will have those if they're like just generic controllers but sometimes they'll be in a different order
Starting point is 01:34:03 default to like the xbox layout for some reason but sometimes they'll be in a different order. Yeah, they'll generically default to the Xbox layout for some reason. But it would be nice if you could, if you have a Switch controller that doesn't have Switch input, just be able to swap those prompts around. That would be lovely. That would be really nice. What I can do with this 8-bit dough controller is I can remap when it's in X input mode.
Starting point is 01:34:21 It has software on my phone where I can remap the buttons. And so it can have up to three presets i have a preset where my abxy are flipped okay so as long as it doesn't show the button in the diamond formation with the right prompt then i can just flip the inputs and there's no difference right okay okay that makes sense and to go all the way back around yes to final fantasy sure i saw the mod to final fantasy to give me switch button prompts which it's a pain in the ass to install because you have to download a file you have to run a terminal application and then from that terminal application you have to find the directory path to that file you downloaded. Send it to the correct installation path in that terminal program.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And it's not fun. If you're like me and you get lost of where you are when you're using a terminal to find stuff, it's not a fun time. And I did all that. And i've been playing with this for a while and i kind of want to go back to the dual shock what do you okay what out of the out of the xbox i guess series x and xbox one are the same controller so out of the xbox one ps4 and the switch controller which one do you like i presume you haven't held a ps5 controller ps4 i'm ps4 i want symmetrical sticks sure okay that's literally all i care about i when i first saw the xbox controller when i was like only playing on playstation i thought i would hate like having offset sticks and i'm sure i
Starting point is 01:36:03 don't hate it i think it's super comfortable it's just i'm sure muscle memory my muscle memory has grown up with symmetrical stick for 3d games yeah that's fair like i i got used to it i i started using the actual controller for a very long time i prefer i could absolutely use it without a problem my problem with the ps4 controller is it feels just a tad too small. You would like the DualSense then, because the DualSense is a little bigger. I want to try out a PS5 controller. The PS5 controller is around the same size as an Xbox controller, but it still has the symmetrical sticks.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Yeah. but it still has the symmetrical sticks. Yeah. The 8BitDo controller feels like... Imagine if you took a Super Nintendo controller and you added handles to it. Hmm. Okay. And that's what it feels like.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Like, literally, if you took away the handles, the sticks, and the L2R2, it would be a Super Nintendo controller. I've got the website open right now. That does look pretty cool. It's very comfortable for, like, platformers and stuff. If you're playing a 2D game, this is my controller I go for. Oh, it has...
Starting point is 01:37:21 Because it just feels like a more comfortable Super Nintendo controller. It has back buttons as well. Yeah, the triggers, the back triggers, they kind of suck. They're a little too easy to press. Right, right. Although they are automatically mapped to be turbo and stuff
Starting point is 01:37:41 when you're on switch mode, so you need to go into the software and turn them off. It's only on switch mode that they're pre-mapped none of the other modes are pre-mapped i don't know why um but yeah that's uh that's one thing i didn't like i got it because i wanted to set these as macros um for an extra hot bar in final fantasy 14 when you're playing on controller you access your spells by either holding down r2 or l2 and then for an extra hotbar in Final Fantasy XIV. When you're playing on controller, you access your spells by either holding down R2 or L2 and then pressing either a direction on the D-pad or a face button.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Okay, so I wondered how they managed to fit all of the Final Fantasy inputs onto controller. That explains why. And then they have a second hotbar you can set up, which is your eighth set of hotbars that you can access by double tapping L2 or R2 and doing the same thing. It works actually really well. I'm less likely to believe you that this is a good input system.
Starting point is 01:38:38 This seems like they've crammed a PC MMO onto a controller. I mean, that's what they did, but they had to think about it as controller is the only option we have what's the best way to do this that makes sense because otherwise you're going to go down the um the route that a lot of jlpgs go where they have four abilities and that's it and that doesn't work for mmo this is actually the best layout i've ever seen to play an MMO with a controller. Any other input I've seen, it's been just like pages of four or five skills. And it's just not fun. Targeting is a little bit of a pain on controller the way it works until you get like really used to quick target and untarget, which I'm still not. Which is why I made a healer because I can focus on healing and just use the D
Starting point is 01:39:25 pad to swap between who's in my party and just choose who to heal. So for a healer, this is the perfect layout. I would much rather play a healer with this layout than I would keyboard and mouse. But what I wanted to do with the back triggers was I wanted to
Starting point is 01:39:42 set them to be double click and hold L2 and double click and hold R2. The thing I didn't know. Is that macros don't let you input other inputs. While they're running. Right okay. I didn't know that. So I set it up.
Starting point is 01:39:58 To be what I wanted. The double tap and hold. But I couldn't hit the face buttons. To activate the spells. Oh right right. And i was just like no i was gonna use them as extra trigger buttons and shit that would have made it much better then like i haven't that would have been great so i could hold l2 or i could hold l4 or actually they're labeled as p1 and p2 paddle one paddle two yeah yeah i'm happy to see um like
Starting point is 01:40:30 paddles actually becoming a thing on more controllers because there was that whole like there's a whole debacle with um if you with if these paddles were a little bit more stiff and a little bit harder to press i would actually use them more often right now it's just too easy to accidentally click them just from grabbing the controller because remember back in the early days of the um the ps3 and 360 the reason why no one else did it is because scuff had like scuff had a copyright on that design and the only way and then ps4 came and xbox one came along and i think the biggest player now is aim well i believe that with the initial elite controller they actually licensed it from scuff oh did they i believe so that might have changed now because i know like
Starting point is 01:41:15 the big one right now everyone's blowing up over his aim and i i don't know if they've surpassed scuff yet but i think they're pretty close i am so out of the loop on console esports i i see ads for them all the time right i see more ads for aim controllers than i do scuff controllers now and i don't know why because i've never had an interest in either one of them i just i just stick with the first party controller for the most part same that's all i did that's all i do it's like why are you trying to sell me on these like four back triggers for competitive fps games i don't play fps games i've never played fps games stop trying to sell me fps games but what if they sell you on macros for final fantasy you make a convincing argument fry oh yeah um i was saying um i don't know something about i like the back triggers they're cool i
Starting point is 01:42:16 like them as an option yeah i like that they're an option um i just wish on this controller itself they were a little bit stiffer yep yep So that I wouldn't accidentally click them as much. Oh, right, right. I remember what I was going to say now. I need to ask you something. Why do you play a healer? What's fun about a healer? I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I like support classes. Okay, I don't understand. You need to explain this to me. Why do you like support classes? I love support classes. Okay, I don't understand. You need to explain this to me. Why do you like support classes? I love healing classes. Even if I play Dungeons and Dragons every week, my go-to class is Cleric. I like being the support.
Starting point is 01:42:56 I need to understand why. I don't understand. Because I like being the one who does the setup for someone else to do this crazy wombo combo that I just go like, Oh yeah, you think I'm not a threat? It shouldn't be me you're watching out for, it's my buddy over here. I like being the buddy. The buddy is the fun one. Also the fact that because I have very poor muscle memory, because I take week-long breaks in between playing Final Fantasy,
Starting point is 01:43:21 because I have very poor muscle memory, because I take like week long breaks in between playing final fantasy, uh, white mage is a class where you can miss click and fuck up and you're still are doing more healing than you need to. So you, you would lose your button rotation basically. Right. Um,
Starting point is 01:43:37 so like as a white mage, I can screw up what I'm doing and hit the wrong thing and I'm still ahead. Okay. Because it's such a massive amount of healing i can do well i guess until you like go and like do the really high level content you start doing ultimate yeah the high level stuff like savage level uh dungeons i will need to learn how to heal and damage at the same time yeah yeah which i cannot wrap my head around i can barely wrap my head around doing one or the other i'm not good at muscle memory i don't like mmo combat right okay which
Starting point is 01:44:13 is i which is why i mainly stick to healing so i can just stick in the back and just make sure everyone's got health and i've debuffed any or i've undone any negative buffs. That's fair. Right now, all I do really is dungeon runs. If I start getting better, I can start doing boss raids with people. And the upside to being a healer is I never have to wait on a party.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Because no one's a healer, so everyone's looking for one. That is one of the things I hear is nice about being a healer. It's like, alright, party up. Alright, I'm good to go. Yeah, that's fair. That is fair. Actually, my ideal party in Final Fantasy is the light party that you do with only four people.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Which is a healer, two DPS, and a tank. So the tank just runs into the midst of stuff and aggro's everyone to them. The DPS are at a distance, or they're also engaged doing a bunch of damage, and the healer's just in the back making sure that the tank doesn't die. Right, that's fair. And that's all I have to do is just sit there. I just say, cure one, cure one, cure one, cure one. Right, that's fair. And that's all I have to do
Starting point is 01:45:25 is just sit there. I just say, cure one, cure one, cure one, cure one. Ooh, free cure two. Cure one, cure one, cure one, cure one. Ooh, free cure two. And get rid of debuffs. Maybe I just have a dumb monkey brain,
Starting point is 01:45:35 but I like DPS. DPS is fun. I like seeing big numbers. You would actually, I think you'd like tank more. Mm-hmm. Because your sole purpose is just to run in and press attack. Mm, that does sound fun, actually.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah. That is, your sole purpose is to run in, press attack, and press the button to make them attack you. Okay, at the end of the day, what I would do is, this, okay, this, this is the, this is the reason why I can't play Final Fantasy. I've won two, though. This is the reason why I can't. It has the same problem won two, though. This is the reason why I can't.
Starting point is 01:46:05 It has the same problem that RuneScape has, which is that you can change. You can just do different. You're not a single class. You can change it. You can do other shit. Oh, yeah, the job system. Do you know what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:46:16 I'm going to max out every single one of them. That's what's going to happen. I have two friends who have done that. The friend that got me into playing Final Fantasy was the one who started way back on the PS3. She's maxed out every single class. My fellow VTuber friend, Corvy, Constellation Corvy,
Starting point is 01:46:35 who I played D&D with for a bit, they also maxed every single class. Which, the current maximum is level 80 for every class, except one. I think one of them's level 70 right right um and with the new expansion coming out all the maximum is going to be raised by 10 so it's going to be level 90 for everything except that one class which will then be 80 or maybe they'll all be 90 i'm not certain maybe they'll bump that one up 20 levels that's why you have a class Including the new classes they're adding.
Starting point is 01:47:06 They're adding two or three new classes. Which will also be maxed at level 90. I have another important question. What race do you play? The generic human. Whatever they call the generic human. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:47:21 I know they have stupid fantasy names. My VTuber design is loosely based off my final fantasy character right right okay i look you know the game has cat girls in it so the game also has lizard girls in it it has but look it's a it's a difficult expansion it's gonna have bunny people i i'm i'm aware i'm i'm very i'm very aware of the the bunny girls and the the expansion oh yeah oh yeah but um if i do play it i'm probably not i probably wouldn't stream main story content because it there's a there's a lot of nothing that like there's a lot of cut scenes and cut scenes would you know not i would have to like
Starting point is 01:48:05 ignore the cut scenes for a stream that i don't think really makes the best experience if i was going to stream it would be like you know dungeon stuff or raids meanwhile i am streaming exclusively games with long cut scenes for that very reason of the cut scenes yeah that's fair well there's there's some exceptions with that but i hear the um i hear the final fantasy 14 story is fairly good um oh yeah um a realm reborn is apparently the worst story of the entire game and i still enjoyed it yeah i keep hearing this from people but from what it sounds like it's the worst part compared like it's it's a nine but everything else is a 10 like that's what it sounds like to me i heard that like more like it's an eight and everything after that is a nine or a ten sure okay i think it's like it's still it's just like it's not the best story in the game but god damn it's still a good story i i played through all of crystar
Starting point is 01:49:01 where your best friend turns into a fucking boss and tries to kill you like don't don't question the story i i can play through shit stories um yeah so you know i'm gonna talk crystar for a bit so crystar is a game where you're basically like i guess you're not a reaper um you're going through like effectively the underworld trying to like defeat evil souls um and make them go and be reborn um and at one point you run into your best friend and she blames you for the bus accident she was in and usually when like in the boss fight they'll turn to like something related to like whatever their massive trauma is so one of the um one of the uh the bosses was like I think he was trapped
Starting point is 01:49:50 in solitary confinement in a prison and like after eating people or something I don't fucking know um and he turned like this big man eating plant and your best friend she was in the bus accident uh and she turns into a bus it's just like and i thought the penis shadow
Starting point is 01:50:08 from persona was weird what oh do you not know about this i i might but not ringing a bell persona 5 penis shadow oh god uh oh what is this thing i don't recall that one it's supposed to represent a spirit of lust i think they got that right yeah they definitely they definitely
Starting point is 01:50:43 oh my god yeah that that works i guess name is like like the name for lust in another language that i can't remember off the top of my head Wait, wait. Oh, I'm looking at the Shimogami Tensei wiki. Yeah. Yeah. It is called, in P5, The Throbbing King of Desire. Yeah, that's what it is. The Throbbing King of Desire. Apparently it's from Buddhist and Sri Lankan mythology.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Sure. Sure. That doesn't surprise me. Wait. No way, I'm thinking Hinduism is the one that has like literally tens of thousands of deities, isn't it? Probably, yes.
Starting point is 01:51:43 That's the one that I can't wrap my head around of just how that works it was explained to me that like apparently each household picks a specific one from the selection and that's how like it works each household has a different main one they focus on which i guess you kind of have to when you have that many deities in your religion. I genuinely don't know about that. But man, this... I don't know a whole lot about it. But it's one of those things, it's like, the more I hear about it, the more I'm just like, this is so different from how I grew up. And also dick gods.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Yeah, no, apparently that's a thing. Yeah. JRPGs are fucking weird.rpgs are very weird and i love them um i mentioned before i'm playing through is eight i've i've been talking about this game a lot um but for the first like 30 hours it's fair there's gonna be spoilers for you say first 30 hours it's fairly normal it's like it's it's actually not even really JRPG, like, you're, uh, the game starts off- Really? Yeah, it starts off with you being, um, in a shipwreck,
Starting point is 01:52:52 and basically you're trying to, like, rebuild- you're trying to, like, find all the people who are on the shipwreck, and, like, build up a village of castaways, and your entire goal is to escape the island. It's fairly grounded. Um- That's- I mean, that's still really interesting though. It is.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Then there are dinosaurs. And that's where shit gets weird. There's dinosaurs at the start of the game, but you just assume these are just whatever the monsters are. No, they're literally dinosaurs. Like, there's a...
Starting point is 01:53:23 Oh. So, they're called Saurons or something in this But They were There comes a point in the story where You find out that all of these Saurons Were extinct because of a meteorite So they're literally just dinosaurs Oh my god, they're literally dinosaurs
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yeah But then There's another part of the story where they're like, fuck it, time travel now. So the main, or the, I guess, second girl, her name is Dana. She's from like years ago. Is it Lacrimosa of Dana? Lacrimosa of Dana, yes. Okay. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:54:04 It's $60. I can't buy that right now it goes on special occasionally but um yeah i'm gonna have to wait for it to go on sale if i ever want to get it so she's like from years in the past but like the main character adult for some reason can like communicate with her in the past and like the past and the present like happening at the same time or something i don't understand it um it doesn't make any sense i don't get it uh eventually though i do you do you want spoilers for this because it's gonna i'm gonna say no because i'm gonna end up playing it this is a game that i've been meaning to get into for a while okay i won't i won't say the the really big spoilers but there's time travel and there's dinosaurs um and it it gets that if
Starting point is 01:54:47 that's where it stopped i would have been like sure then it's like hey remember jlpg is like do you know do you know how every jlp ends ends with killing god so we're gonna somehow segue into killing god somehow we're gonna do it but you don't you don't understand how it's gonna happen you just pulled it out of fucking nowhere yes is the character from year seven the same as the character from years eight uh yes the main character is the same so the the idea with the year series is all of the games are actually basically retelling of Adol's diary. So he goes on, like,
Starting point is 01:55:33 I think 50 years of adventures or something. And basically each game is like one of his diaries. So they're all a series. I need to play all of them. They're the same main character. There's no story connection between them, with the exception of 1 and 2, which 2 is basically an expansion pack for 1.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Oh, okay. They're all disconnected stories with the same main character. Occasionally, there'll be some returning characters, like in 8. Very close to the end of the game are the princess from was it i think journeys of cell setter like she's on the ship for some reason and she's like hey hi adult do you remember me so i'm here now okay hi welcome um but apart from that also your main when you do you play it on pc i'm playing pc yes
Starting point is 01:56:27 okay so it works in proton yes uh some versions of proton the controller does not work by not work i mean it functions but it thinks that you're constantly holding the stick to the left oh that's annoying yeah so you can't do anything about that it just doesn't work but what version do you run uh i'm running i think i'm running the latest version of ge okay i have that i think because i have proton up now proton is a great program yeah i wanted to do a video on that thing that you um made a video on the um gamer installing things and i just i never got around to it i've got a video on proton upcoming soon as well oh yay i i really like
Starting point is 01:57:13 it like ever since i found that like that's a really cool program i uh i just found out that uh the channel linux for everything has a series called will it linux where he tests if games run well on proton or not which was like oh i wanted to do that that is basically hex dsl's entire channel well dang it's definitely it's not a new concept like he actually hex i knew it wasn't but i was just hoping there wasn't any like big channels that i thought to do it yet i was like oh nope nope. There are quite a few. Yeah, I think Hex started it back before Proton was even a thing. So you've been doing it for a while.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Oh, yeah. It's like back when you have to like configure wine to get it to work. I am glad I missed out on that. Four days ago, you uploaded a video about PGA Tour 2K20. Why the fuck is he playing a golf game a terrible way to spend actual money almost as bad as real golf i don't like sports games i'll play most games but sports games are not my thing what about the mario sports games that's an exception that Okay. Yeah. I'll accept that. I was about to say, Mario
Starting point is 01:58:25 Strikers on the GameCube. What about Sonic and Mario at the Olympic Games? Those are fun, but they're just mini-game collections at the end of the day. They are, basically. Where's our new one? We need a new one. Didn't they just
Starting point is 01:58:41 make one? Did they? Did they make one for the new Olympics? I don't know. I'd went onto my radar if they did. No, they ported the Wii U one to the Switch is what they did. Oh, wait. There's one for the 2020 Olympics.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Yeah, okay. So it wasn't crazy. I thought that was a port. It's not a port. It's probably the same. looks the olympics it's gonna be the same sports effectively as a port yeah yeah like what are you gonna do like introduce new sports olympics like something that works but it has given us some great sonic lore i think my favorite my favorite thing for the uh the olympics uh apparently like like i think it was a closing ceremony they played um they had a they had an orchestra doing the demon slayer opening i heard about that i haven't actually seen the video though
Starting point is 01:59:40 it's like sure japan sure why not i don't i don't watch the olympics i don't watch sports at all i didn't care the only thing i cared about for the 2020 olympics was the opening and ending ceremonies i just wanted to see what japan was going to do and you know i'll take it at their prime minister jumped out of a mario pipe with a mar cap. That was great. Oh, I missed that. That was when they first announced it. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Right. That was great.
Starting point is 02:00:14 And then they proceeded to not do any Nintendo music. They did... The main music they did was Square Enix. Yeah, yeah. Which I'm down for. They have fantastic music. But the announcement was Mario. I expected Nintendo stuff. No, I wanted them to...
Starting point is 02:00:29 Look, they can take the absolute piss and just play, like, the Sword Art Online opening. You know that opening's a banger, though. It is. Have you seen the new trailer for the Progressive movie? There's a new progressive movie? Yeah, the progressive movie's coming out soon-ish.
Starting point is 02:00:51 God, I'm gonna... Why do I keep watching Sword Art Online shit? It's not good. No, it's good. Stop lying to yourself. You know you like it. No, it's an absolute dumpster fire, but I just can't look away. I genuinely adore sword online
Starting point is 02:01:06 like i i i unironically enjoy it it's really for me it is one of those guilty pleasure shows just i know it's bad but i'm gonna keep watching it there okay there are parts of sao that are not good like the the was it was called the um alfheim section fairy dance for the light novel sure kate leaf is a fairly boring character but like gungale gungale's fun and alicization alicization's great the first half of alicization was great the second half just okay fucking weird yeah okay i'll give you that like when i finished watching the second half of uh alicization i just sat here like did studio trigger make this that's not a bad thing it was that same level of just what the fuck
Starting point is 02:01:58 mm-hmm but without the crazy animation it was just the same concepts Done in just a generic anime style Yeah I feel like The first half of Alicization was Absolutely amazing Like up until the War of the Underworld Alicization was fantastic I think honestly the main issue with Sword Art Online
Starting point is 02:02:20 Is just when Kirito and Asuda are together They just become the most boring characters when they're separated they're interesting and the second they get back together they just go back to being super boring I really hate that every
Starting point is 02:02:35 time SEO like gets a good male character like Klein the bar dude what the hell is his name um yeah Tiffany sure we'll go with the abridged version or like or yujiro all of the male characters yujiro is my favorite character from the series yeah he's best character in the series spoiler alert he's dead yeah um well he's not look he's
Starting point is 02:03:01 not dead if you go play the game because because the games have alt-canon. Oh, God. I don't even want to get into that. Everybody is alive in the games. Yuki, alive. I read the light novels. After the first season of the anime, I read the light novels all the way through the first half of Valorization. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Like, back in high school. Mm-hmm. And then they stopped doing fan translations because they started to get official English releases. So I was just like, oh crap. Well, I need to get official English releases, but I've got to wait for them to catch up. And then I forgot about them and then they made the anime. I was like, okay, I'll just watch the anime.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Exact same boat for me. I stopped reading Alicization. I think the first chapter of War of the Underworld was being translated, and that's about it. It was just before. The last thing I read was Kirito getting to the terminal and contacting the people outside. Ah, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Okay, that makes sense. So right after Eugeo's death is where I left off in the light novels. Mm-hmm. Why? Just why? Why kill off Yu-Gi-Oh? Well, I mean, I'm glad that he stayed dead, though, because, oh, my God, Sword Art Online did something with consequences. Don't bring in the alt canon.
Starting point is 02:04:22 What a nice world to be living in that you think that's the case uh you watched the ending of war of the underworld didn't you where they where they went back in but it's like the future and their spaceships yeah and also made me go like did i just step into a trigger anime and also ronnie and whatever her face of both it's both their descendants but they look exactly the same and have the same voice yeah no it's just like yeah there's a we're not it's not confirmed at this point but there is a character that looks
Starting point is 02:04:51 he wears a mask and looks has the same hair as Yu-Gi-Oh looks a lot like Yu-Gi-Oh it's probably Yu-Gi-Oh god damn it or some by miraculous descendant out just like he somehow got his lover pregnant who wasn't dead but also was except they weren't look okay when the first season of the anime and like
Starting point is 02:05:17 of the light novel has kirito literally willing himself past admin privileges anything's possible in the words of SEO Bridge this is what happens when you have a pissed off nerd with admin privileges god I love SEO but it's not good it's not good but again guilty pleasure I know it's bad but I'm gonna keep watching it
Starting point is 02:05:44 we've just gone past It's not good, but again, Guilty Pleasure. I know it's bad, but I'm going to keep watching it. We've just gone past the two hour mark. Oh boy. So I think it's as good a time as any to end off the show. I wanted to go off on one more tangent since we got on anime. We can go on another tangent. I don't have to end right now.
Starting point is 02:06:04 I have one more tangent. Speaking about guilty pleasure anime, I read the entirety of Domestic Girlfriend as it released. Uh-huh. I've seen pictures of stuff later and I don't know much about it. That is the first time a piece of media
Starting point is 02:06:22 gave me proper whiplash after reading it. Why? Why did you do that? Because it's great. It's a legitimately good story up until like the last five chapters where I'm just like, what the fuck just happened? Because it doesn't do a 180. It does a full 720 because it went in the other direction but it did a 360 in the middle of it
Starting point is 02:06:51 look maybe i'll read it maybe i don't know i don't read much manga right now but maybe it's i watched uh do you know giguk yeah of course Yeah, of course His review of it was Grant So Garnet's essentially The way he described it was that it is It is a dumpster Fiber that evolves into A car crash that evolves into
Starting point is 02:07:21 A train wreck And you're just sitting here like i don't know how you can make this any worse oh wow that's how it's just like i have to see how they one-up this i think well okay that there is a series that i've read that is like that which is just just as dumb um i recommend it's very good go read uh uh nozoki ana it's uh the the name is peephole it's about a dude who has a peephole in his house and like the girl next door also uses the peephole it's a really fucking weird series um oh no like it like like they start dating at some point that evolves into like a harem then it's like a fight over the harem then one like one of the girls like it's like they start dating at some point that evolves into like a harem then it's like a
Starting point is 02:08:05 fight over the harem then one like one of the girls like it's just it's crazy shit starts happening um but yeah it has a harem i'm gonna enjoy it um i you know what maybe maybe i'll read it i'm currently reading like start to end for a long ass time so it'd be nice yeah i'm currently reading... Start to end for a long ass time. So it'd be nice. Yeah, I'm currently reading Rent-A-Girlfriend. I need to watch the anime for that. That is fantastic. It's legitimately good. It came out during a period where I was very busy with uni stuff.
Starting point is 02:08:38 And just didn't get around to watching it. Fair enough. It's really good. The protagonist has that same issue that every harem protagonist has, but all the girls in the harem, quote unquote, make up for it of just being super well written. They are so well written. The main girl, uh, Chizuru, feels like an actual person with depth. Wow, an anime character with depth? I know, it's weird. It's just a really
Starting point is 02:09:12 well-written, emotionally charged story, and it's like, this would be like, a god-tier work of art if this main character wasn't a piece of shit. I mean, he goes from being a piece of shit. I mean, he goes from being a piece of shit to just being
Starting point is 02:09:27 the general dumbass of just like, you fucking idiot. Speaking of pieces of shit, though... Oh no, what are you grabbing? Do you know what's also a very good series? What? What?
Starting point is 02:09:49 My earphones came out. There we go. Are you going to focus? Focus on it, damn it. Why are you not focusing? What the fuck is I not focusing? What the fuck? Mate. Why is my camera shoko tensei you
Starting point is 02:10:05 shoko tensei jobless reincarnation very good series highly recommend it main character is good one main character is genuinely a piece of shit um oh now it's just not focusing my face either everyone is telling me to watch redo of a healer do it i know i should do it it's everything that's described to me it's just like this sounds fantastic and there's an uncensored version yes there is there
Starting point is 02:10:33 was an uncensored version when it was airing i need to i just need i don't know where to watch the uncensored version because i think verve and crunch and all that, they have the semi-censored version. Yeah. Yeah. Not the fully uncensored, but not the fully censored either. Not the, we're going to put black boxes on everything.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Yeah. It's the one where, in all the like lewd scenes, they do the convenient pan over to the shadows sort of thing. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 02:11:07 But like, it'll still show quite a bit it just won't quite show everything i uh i acquire anime through other means so you can find the uncensored version very easily i know i can find it um i probably should i just i like using official streaming service because they've started looking at streaming numbers to know if shows get other seasons right that's fair well that's why i want to put my vote in for this to get more that's why i buy source material i think that's why lately we've been getting so many more seasons of shows like for example uh oh my god overlord i couldn't remember the name for a second that's why we're getting a fourth season this is a show that like
Starting point is 02:11:52 a couple years ago we would have gotten one season and that's it absolutely yeah i i need to buy the light no for that one like i i really like overlord it's so good. Because it's a protagonist who's evil and just kind of stays evil. It flashes back to being good, but then it'll remind him, no, you're the bad guy now. There was one part that wasn't good. There was the, um... Uh...
Starting point is 02:12:18 There was a section where there was a bunch of, like, big tentacle-y monsters. There was supposed to be, like, thousands of them. I think it was in the later season. Wait, let's see if I can find it. I think I know what you're talking about. That was during one of the really big battles, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:12:39 Okay, it was supposed to be a big battle. Yeah, here we go. in the uh in the light novel there was supposed to be like hundreds of these things yeah i remember this scene this is like you made them cg and you just didn't didn't put hundreds of them like sure okay like all you did was copy and paste them all you did was copy and paste them oh that was on Gunn's twitter um yeah and they didn't
Starting point is 02:13:10 they didn't look great either they didn't look terrible though I've seen much worse CG in anime yeah well have you watched the original Fate Stay Night not the original no I watched Ultimate Blade Works ah you've not seen the cum or unlimited
Starting point is 02:13:26 blade works so no cum dragon for you okay that's sad i haven't saved on verve to watch i just never got around to it why would you have it saved don't don't you saved yourself don't do it the only thing you need to watch is Come, Dragon, that's the only part Do you know the scene I'm talking about? You have no idea what I'm saying right now No, but the fact that it's called that Makes me very curious
Starting point is 02:13:55 Okay, so you know that Fates Day Night Is an eroge, right? Yes Okay, so the original anime decided to adapt Some of the eroge scenes, but obviously It you know, TV anime, they can't adapt. I think it was going to be Saber and Shiro fucking. It was to do some mana transfer, whatever. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 02:14:16 The first Fate Senate was the Saber path. Yes, yes, yes. I think Rin was going to be a threesome. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Because they can't animate that, they instead replaced the Mana Trancer with a metaphor of a dragon entering this mystical realm.
Starting point is 02:14:42 It's supposed to symbolize it's supposed to symbolize nut it's like to go back to sa or bridge so you're gonna invite him over make him show him his magic sword your cave of dragons your cave of cave of wonders have to do battle with the dragon within what's the dragon in this metaphor chlamydia oh here we go i found the picture i love a bridge series so much there's so many i'm kind of sad it's died off now for the most part yeah that's a lot of dmca stuff because of oh man come dragon it wasn't good CGI for 2006 either
Starting point is 02:15:34 it might look bad there, it's so much worse than animation oh no this was still during the time when they would animate, or they would have the 2D animation running at 24 FPS and then the 3D running at 30, and it just does not work together.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Oh, uh-uh. It doesn't seem like much of a difference, but, like, it's very noticeable. Yeah, when you see one animated smoother than the other, it's very noticeable um i think like the biggest thing i've because i've been watching one piece oh and i've been noticing the way they animated like these later arcs was um they animated everything 24 fps and it's fine but anytime the camera moves it's moving at 60 fps right so the ucg
Starting point is 02:16:28 background and you're just like this is weird because all the characters are talking and they're moving at 24 and standard but the camera is panning at 60 fps because they just did the one scene just digitally moved the camera right they didn't move it at the same frame rate it seems like a lot of a lot of uh animation studios are getting better at this now they've finally realized to match the frame rate but yeah when it was first done he introduced it's a fucking mess i guess some studios still do it i mean it's not the later arcs all of them it's um i've just finished uhapunk or Punk Hazard. It's the arc immediately after that that I'm really noticing it.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Fuck, what arc is it? I've read most of One Piece as of five years ago. The villain is Don Flamingo. Oh, okay, okay. I know where you are then. I just started that. I'm only a few episodes into that arc.
Starting point is 02:17:24 Yep, yep. Yeah, I stopped yep yep yeah i'm really noticing it it's like oh this is weird i don't know what arc i think it's called like whole cake or something i don't know um way later than you where you are probably um but uh i think once i catch up in the anime because i'm skipping through the filler arcs and stuff um i'm gonna jump over to the manga i just want i really just want to see the wano arc animated because here it's really good animation yeah that's fair but yeah there's so many things that i read that i'm just like why am i reading this i i read all of citrus oh okay you have what i heard about this it was made out to be like this raunchy like eroge possibly like doujinshi level stuff and then i read it just like
Starting point is 02:18:22 nah it's mostly cute lesbians this was not nearly as much as it was made out to be good enough reason to read it by itself um the weird thing with it is that they're step sisters that's that's where it gets the weird anime part from it it's fine it's anime you get used to it just forget about that part just every time they say step just or actually no not stepped every time they say steps both words it gets worse stop while you're ahead every time you hear the word steps just to get a buzzer and just like hit it pretty much i know man there's so many things you want to read but it's a little time i've got other things i want to do like i i want to watch anime i want to play games i want to study japanese i don't want to read manga as well it's like it maybe i don't have a lot i'm so behind on my weekly stuff um the main thing has been watching have been a couple episodes of one piece here and
Starting point is 02:19:21 there uh i'm mostly caught up in in a new anime that started airing, The Great Jahi Cannot Be Defeated. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm watching that as well. I love that the ending... Is it... Who's doing the ending? Is Nene and a couple other people from Hololive doing the ending theme?
Starting point is 02:19:40 Oh, is it? Oh, wait, you didn't know? No, I didn't. That's exciting. It's Aqua, wait, you didn't know? No, I didn't. That's exciting. It's Aqua, Subaru, and Nene. Oh. I thought you would know about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:54 No, I did not. I don't keep up with what they do outside of streams all that much. Okay, fair enough. But yeah, they're the ones doing the editing. I love it, though. It's great. Despite being a VTuber, I'm really bad at keeping up with VTubers.
Starting point is 02:20:07 That's fair. Mainly because, again, time constraints. Look, I don't know shit that's happening in the Linux community either, so we're on the same page. I know what's happening if Gardner Brian and Nick from Linux Experiment mention it. Yeah, it's fair. And even then I don't watch everything they upload.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Like if it gets popular enough that it hits the front page of Reddit, I'll probably find out about it. That's about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mainly. Cause that's really the main Linux channel I watch is Linux experiment.
Starting point is 02:20:44 And then I watch a couple of your videos that you go into a lot more technical stuff where I'm just kind of like uh cool yeah sure how do I click the button in my brain I'm still the skill level of a windows user that reminds you of a uh i mean
Starting point is 02:21:10 someone said on my discord earlier um i think that may be why my tutorials are so helpful to people because i'm just like i'm gonna assume you're as dumb as me because i'm dumb as rocks it wasn't on the it was okay no somewhere else um it was uh one of those uh programmers now our programmers in the past programmers now programmers in the past i wrote this kernel from scratch in c uh programmers now where's the button to click yep yep that sounds about right especially that's a lot of programming goes into video games and stuff but they've all swapped over to engines so a lot of the programming aspect has been taken out unless you have to make a custom feature yeah yeah yeah yeah well i i hope
Starting point is 02:21:59 you i hope you're not just putting a bunch of assets together, but... I mean, no, but you can make a baseline out of the assets and then build from there. You don't have to make everything from scratch now. Sure, yeah. If you're trying to, like, prototype something, you can throw a prototype together in, like, a couple hours. Yeah, no. Like, I've seen games that have actually become really good games
Starting point is 02:22:19 by just, they take the baseline assets, they make it, and then maybe they'll start making some custom models and stuff and throw it in there. But the base engine itself, they won't modify at all. Sure, sure. That makes sense. I mean, that's why we got games like House Flipper, Power Wash Simulator, those sort of games that are just like, they don't need to be super in-depth
Starting point is 02:22:39 because the point of them is just to be relaxing. Sure, sure. That's fair enough. But, yeah, we probably should end it because I got other things to do. Yeah, now actually we should end it. It's been an extra 20 minutes now. Enjoy the extra content. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:22:58 That's what that is, I guess. I guess we can call it content. That's one way to describe it. It's close enough. Content adjacent. So, let's see. Where can the people find you? You can find me on Twitch at twitch.tv slash itsroegren.
Starting point is 02:23:15 You can find me on YouTube at youtube.com slash c slash roegren. And you can find me on Twitter on twitter.com slash at itsroegren. Or slash itsroegren. At itsroegren on Twitter. I'm at itsrogran or slash itsrogran at itsrogran on twitter I'm bad at social media did you know apparently you're supposed to post on twitter twice a day eh for its algorithm you're supposed to post
Starting point is 02:23:36 on twitter twice a day I didn't know that sure I post a couple more times is it like twice like the optimal point does it get worse from that point or how does that work I think twice is the optimal point I think more doesn't necessarily hurt you but it just doesn't help you sure okay huh that makes sense but I've been like oh I haven't made a tweet in like what three days oh fuck i uh i schedule my my upload notification so there's my tweet
Starting point is 02:24:08 big brain right there oh god i should do oh yeah you post practically daily i post every week because yeah i have today to record and mostly in it and then like a few hours tomorrow to finish editing and i hope that's good enough so it's it's six videos a week on the main channel plus a live stream then on the gaming channel i upload i do two streams and take like five shorts from that then the podcast and three clips from that so whatever that works out to be i don't know how you have the tech because you work as well don't you i do well i don't work that much i work like nine hours a week oh okay but you're at this point you're in uni so i finished but most of it at this point is from um i did yeah and now i'm just sitting around making youtube videos i'm using my degree very well but most of most of my income at this
Starting point is 02:24:59 point can be supplemented with the channel i mean yeah you're actually making money off it i'm not at some point maybe eight years down the line yeah like i've in the four years i've been streaming on twitch i've had one payout jeez well i think the one thing that i think would make a lot of sense for you is clips. Getting clips onto YouTube because Twitch algorithm is awful. Yeah, no. That's why I try to, I'm trying to push my Twitch more and mention in my videos that I have a Twitch. I stream games from Linux if you want to. So, like, say I did, my latest video was a video on installing Linux, which is the one I'm currently editing. I've said throughout, it's like, and and hey while this is downloading see if i'm
Starting point is 02:25:45 live on twitch if you want to see how this works in action to run games and stuff you definitely have the other segues down from four years i can see that i mean you have to do it now it's gotten to the point where like people find it annoying that you say at the beginning hey like and subscribe but then you look at your analytics and every time you say it people liked and subscribed it fucking works it does i don't know why but it does yeah i i don't say it i have a little overlay that appears but um i need to make one of those i need to make one of those is what i need to do you look if you go onto youtube look up free like and subscribe overlay you'll find them yeah i need to just make it in kate and live and export as like a weapon with transparency so i just slap it on yep yep makes it very easy that's
Starting point is 02:26:30 what i do so i know how to do this stuff i'm just i don't have the time to actually do them because i've uh oh another thing i should mention now i also i i've made a patreon now oh nice i'm going to try to post videos there as soon as i finish editing them so that because like tuesday or wednesday on patreon and then they'll go live on friday right okay ah okay okay i i've been looking like doing patreon stuff just like what what do i do like what what do i do with it you make money off patreon and you don't even do anything on it i don't do what am i doing wrong i have a discord role that's what i do with it
Starting point is 02:27:11 i don't know you're like i'm seeing these people who are just like i'm seeing them like actually growing and stuff i'm just like clearly i'm doing something wrong i just need to figure out what the hell it is you are in a hyper niche so like there is i am that's the i think that's part of my problem is that i went to i was just like find a niche because everything's oversaturated it's like okay cool linux vtuber i think you went a bit too far damn it i think i think there's some way it could work, but... I don't know. I need to find a way to make it work if I'm going to keep doing it, essentially.
Starting point is 02:27:49 For me, I was just in the right place at the right time. That's what happened with me. That's all it is. It's right place, right time. I just need to keep throwing stuff until I find that right place. Mm-mm. Well, I hope whatever you end up doing goes well. I mean, I'm still going to make stuff i'm never gonna stop i love making videos and stuff
Starting point is 02:28:09 it is literally my creative outlet i need to make things well hopefully find a niche that it works maybe you can somehow get i don't know maybe if you i i don't know it's kind of working i mean my channel's growing i went from like 20 something subscribers to over 300 so i'm doing something right yeah you're not going negative so that's something yeah and uh i've gotten like discord dms of people being like i saw your video how do i do this and this to get linux working to do this thing to be a vtuber and it's like i'm helping people i think i think what's very possible is there's going to be a VTuber and it's like, I'm helping people. I think, I think what's very possible is there's going to be at some point,
Starting point is 02:28:55 someone ends up becoming a popular VTuber on Linux. And when that happens, then your video is gonna be the first thing that show up. Yeah. Cause I think I'm the only VT that's daily driving linux as their main thing yeah there have been some others like sanyan um has done linux streams but i believe they mainly stream off of mac if i'm not mistaken right yeah that's their like main development environment i think i'm the only one who's like actually on linux and the whole point is they're on Linux yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know I I can I can say things for me I I don't know what the hell what the hell I'm doing I'm just winging it basically same I I see a video do well like I don't know why they did well that's that's all it is I think now that I've gotten stuff to actually look a bit more interesting
Starting point is 02:29:44 because all my stuff before was like black and white monochrome, which looked cool, but didn't stand out super well. Now that I've done like this red neon thing, I'm going to lean more into the neon stuff. I think it'll actually make me stand out a bit more and look a little more interesting. I think that's my main issue. I think that would be pretty cool, actually.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Yeah, it's just interesting visuals. Maybe a redesign of your overlays or something like that. I have, actually. I've changed them to instead of being white uh boxes they're now uh with like black borders they're white boxes with a red glow for everything i must have missed your recent streams then i yeah i've only done one stream with the new design and that was i think yesterday right okay so yeah it looks it looks pretty cool i thought and i've also now done this with yeah that i'm gonna do on everything and it's gonna make it stand out even more and i think i'm gonna actually try to lean it i initially had a lore idea of being like a rogue ai hence the rogue ren part
Starting point is 02:30:40 and then i proceeded to do nothing with it. So I think I'll start to lean more into that and like try to actually play a character because a lot of YouTubers play a character. I think that is something that people are looking for in the space. For me, I sort of look for YouTubers who are like being, like playing a character is fine, but when it's someone like like, just being themselves, like, if the character's the way they be themselves,
Starting point is 02:31:09 that's cool. But, like, I look for someone who's just trying to, like, be a genuine person, not trying to, like, fake someone they're really not. Oh, yeah, I don't mean, like, playing a character like I'm acting the whole time. I mean, like, a character's in, like, I am an AI, and so I would be myself through the filter of an ai sure okay that
Starting point is 02:31:27 makes sense like kind of like how iron mouse is just herself through the filter of being a demon right yeah that makes sense okay i get what you're getting at then i was speaking of iron mouse i have my iron mouse hoodie on i have got an iron mouse mouse pad underneath my keyboard a mouse and this is a nana's shirt yeah this one showed up yesterday uh i've got wait i've got the another one here actually this is the best closing statements ever it is i know the stream should the thing should end a while ago nice um i presume you've seen the new mouse pads they've got i've seen the pictures of the new ones yeah um the there so there's like a normal one and a sexy variant and it looks like they does not have a normal one it's just the sexy variant somehow make sense of it somehow we didn't
Starting point is 02:32:25 win the entire thing without talking about Vishoujo I don't know how it happened I think at this point you should just cut this part out and just add on your outro maybe because we've already done the where to find me and everything so I think at this point the rest of this is just off
Starting point is 02:32:41 off the record I don't do an outro. I just let the guests do an outro. Oh. Bye. Sure, bye.

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