Tech Over Tea - AI is Everywhere, Steam Machines & GNOME Foundation Mess | Solo

Episode Date: June 13, 2026

Been a while since we did a solo episode and today we've got a lot to discuss, AI is basically everywhere now, I'm worried about the Steam Machine due to the recent Steam Deck pricing, and the... GNOME Foundation is a mess, but I also discuss some of the recent Summer Games Fest week==========Support The Channel==========► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/brodierobertson► Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/BrodieRobertsonVideo► Amazon USA: https://amzn.to/3d5gykF► Other Methods: https://cointr.ee/brodierobertson==========Support The Show==========► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/brodierobertson► Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/BrodieRobertsonVideo► Amazon USA: https://amzn.to/3d5gykF► Other Methods: https://cointr.ee/brodierobertson=========Video Platforms==========🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBq5p-xOla8xhnrbhu8AIAg=========Audio Release=========🎵 RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/149fd51c/podcast/rss🎵 Apple Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-over-tea/id1501727953🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3IfFpfzlLo7OPsEnl4gbdM🎵 Google Podcast: https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xNDlmZDUxYy9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==🎵 Anchor: https://anchor.fm/tech-over-tea==========Social Media==========🎤 Discord:https://discord.gg/PkMRVn9🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/TechOverTeaShow📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techovertea/🌐 Mastodon:https://mastodon.social/web/accounts/1093345==========Credits==========🎨 Channel Art:All my art has was created by Supercozmanhttps://twitter.com/Supercozmanhttps://www.instagram.com/supercozman_draws/DISCLOSURE: Wherever possible I use referral links, which means if you click one of the links in this video or description and make a purchase we may receive a small commission or other compensation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, and good evening. I'm as always your host, Rudy Robertson, and today we are doing something I have not done in a good while now. I don't know the last time we did a solo episode, but that is what we are back for. I honestly felt like the podcast was kind of getting stale as it was being done. I felt like the episodes were fun when I was recording, I enjoyed speaking to the people.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Everyone I've had on for the most part has been an interesting guest, but I don't know, it seems like in post when I'm like looking at cutting clips out, when I see like some of the feedback, I don't know, it seems like it is getting like sort of
Starting point is 00:00:46 repeating over and over again where it's like, oh, we have a developer on especially the developer ones, right? I really enjoy speaking to indie game developers and I want to do more of them, but it felt like a lot of them ended up just being the sort of same motions over and over and over again where, hey, what's your game? Tell me about your game.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Oh, let's talk a bit about genres and game engines and all this stuff. And I enjoyed it. But I don't know. I want to try something else out. So we're going to do this for a bit. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. We go and do something else. And that's pretty much how it goes.
Starting point is 00:01:23 speaking of things I would like to not have to talk about a lot it's getting really really hard to not talk about AI right like I I don't hate AI I've never really maybe early on I probably could have been considered an AI hater right but it feels like over the past you know how we'll talk about like we're in a bubble I feel like the bubble is deflating without there being a burst, if that makes sense, right? We're seeing less of the AI is in everything.
Starting point is 00:02:03 AI, like, I've got a fucking rice cooker that says AI rice cooker on it. I don't know if that was because of the AI boom or just AI has been like a buzz term for a while, but my fucking rice cooker says AI. I think if I search AI rice cooker, I should be able to find it. It is, yes, the one that, Dankpods did a video on. Ah, that's good enough. We use this thumbnail. It's a rice cooker. It's a generic black box.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yes, AI smart cooking technology. Automatically adjust cooking timer temperature to ensure best taste and texture, also known as a thermometer, which is not a AI new tech whatsoever. But not just that, right? For a while, it seemed like, companies were trying to inject AI into places where it frankly made absolutely no sense.
Starting point is 00:02:59 In many ways, it was feeling like the crypto boom. It was feeling like the NFT boom where a lot of the NFT arguments just they didn't make any sense. Right? It's like, oh, well, if you have NFTs, then you can take your game assets, your game purchases to any other game. And it's like, okay, why would any game developer integrate that? Like, what reason would there be for, like, competing companies to have you transferring your items between different companies games, maybe within an ecosystem? But if it's in an ecosystem, why do you need crypto for that when you could just already,
Starting point is 00:03:40 you know, you could already just have some, like, account-based system where all of the games from one company are handled under a single account. Like that, the idea just never made any. sense on the face of it. It seemed like this idea where it's like, oh, well, you could buy something, but the value proposition never just made any sense from why a business would adopt it. The only one I could see, like, slightly making sense was the whole stuff about, oh, you could have NFT tickets where you know the ticket is validate and there's like no copies of this ticket, and you could easily sell the ticket. But once again, why would a company want to have a ticket
Starting point is 00:04:18 sale market, when they could already just have your ticket, like, attached your ID, and then if you want to sell it, you have to go through their internal market, right? Like, these are things which already can exist without NFTs. And AI really felt like, in a lot of ways, a lot of the things we were seeing were kind of going that route, right? I saw a, and I kind of get why they did it, but I saw a Clothes website where they replaced their search function with AI. And this was a time where the tooling was just not very good.
Starting point is 00:04:52 The site was awful. Thankfully, I could just like jump directly to pages through their like, they're like a category system like a lot of sites have where it's like, oh, you want pants, you want shorts, you want different various materials. So I could avoid the problem. But now it seems like what is happening is a lot of that stuff has been pulled back as I think some of that like really overzealous funding. has been, like, maybe not drying up, but moving into other things. So now you're seeing a lot more, hey, how does it integrate into our developer workflow? And I'm seeing a lot less of the, what if we just replace our entire developer workflow with AI? What if we, like, augment what the developers are doing?
Starting point is 00:05:39 There's a lot more of that. You're seeing some of the, I guess what people have been calling token maxing recently, where there's been a... change with how notably GitHub has been pricing their AI, where now it is not based off of like a, just a strict monthly usage or a strict monthly sale, now it is based off of token usage. So you're having a lot of people who were kind of spending like a few dollars a month, now burning through that within like a couple of hours to a couple of days. And now it's like, oh, if you want to go even further, you got to pay for the top tier.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Even then, a lot of people that have been like heavily using this tooling have been just melting through the top tier. So much so that like there is this sort of like meme going around of like agentic loops, right? A lot of the AI companies are, I think they're kind of worried about where things go. because they have lived off of this like heavily heavily subsidized model for pretty much the entire existence of their companies now
Starting point is 00:06:57 where like what is, isn't it something like open open AI um what's the word I'm fucking blanking on words um
Starting point is 00:07:12 profitability that's the one profitability. There was a chart I saw the other day where it's like the cost that they've sunk into the company is like 10x the like revenue, like maybe in like 100x the revenue they've brought in. I can't find the graph right now but like you've all seen this before. Like a lot of these AI companies just are not making money.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And there comes a point where the birds come home to roost. The chicken, the chicken, the chickens come. Yeah, the chickens come host come home to Roost, where eventually that investor money, that investor fervor, eventually has to dry up and somebody asks the question, when am I going to get a return on my money? And I think that's partially what we are saying now with the rising in token costing, where I think some of the companies are finally starting to realize that this doesn't go on forever.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It might feel like it's going on forever, but eventually the money dries out, rise out. What am I even saying? The money dries out and somebody has to go and pay things back. Now, there's been a lot of money burned, and there's still a lot of money to burn. But I think at the very least, we are starting to see a downturn. And that's kind of why you're seeing this like agentic loop meme. The idea is, oh, rather than just like prompting your AI, just have your AI prompt your AI, which prompt your AI, which prompt your AI. And like, I get, like, if you're, if you're an AI company and you want people to be like fully ingrained in your ecosystem, you don't want them to have any ability to escape.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I get why you'd be pushing that. But at the end of the day, what it is doing is just burning through money. an article I saw, I think came like a day or two ago. The end of token maxing could derail the AI rally says Wells Fargo, Oson Kwan. I assume this is some investor dude. Oh, that's not even article. It's a link to a video.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Okay, whatever. I didn't check the article problem. It was just an example of what I was talking about. But you're seeing this like push for, like don't develop anything, generate as much as possible. and kind of like this death throw, this like death rattle of what this tech is. And I don't think AI is going away, right? Like there are people who think like, oh, the bubble bursts, AI goes away.
Starting point is 00:09:53 No, that's not happening whatsoever. I think we're at a point now where this tech is so ingrained into especially young developers that this is going to be something that sticks around long term. I think what doesn't stick around long term, though, is, really expensive cloud models. And we saw this recently with the, um, the, the, the, the, RtX, not RTX, is it RTX spark? The new Nvidia thing. Yes, RTX spark.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I couldn't remember if they'd use like a new branding for it. The RTF spark, which is Nvidia's like big AI chip, 128 gigabytes of unified memory. And the idea here is to like move away from these mega cloud models. and actually be out of run these locally. And Nvidia is an interesting company, right? Because they're selling on both ends of the spectrum. They are selling giant database cards to all of these massive companies at the same time.
Starting point is 00:10:56 If they can sell local AI stuff to not average developers, not like average consumers, right? You're not going to buy this as like some random guy that has a mid-tier GPU. But if you're a Microsoft, If you're a, I don't know, like pick a meta, like a big developer firm, I could see a lot of these companies. Maybe Marx is a bad example because they have copilot, but I could see a lot of these like big companies, especially when it comes to, like, data sensitivity, like medical context,
Starting point is 00:11:29 wanting to run large-scale local models so they don't get into like weird litigation stuff and all of these problems which I think are on the radar and have been happening over the past couple of years. Now, I don't remember what they were... Did they announce a price? I don't actually think they did. But it was like a stripped-down server card.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Oh Oh Wait RTX Spark pricing ranges from 1800 to 2,900 USD for base laptops 4,000 to 8,000 for AI work
Starting point is 00:12:09 What? Wait, no shot it's that cheap What? Wait Okay, maybe Nvidia's like Okay, we're going to take a loss on this one to get adoption, just I don't fucking know how it is that cheap to buy these things. Jesus fucking Christ. If you think the the GPU shortage is going to end anytime soon, fuck no it's not. I think it's only
Starting point is 00:12:34 going to get worse. Well, a ram shortage is this going to lead to the GPS all this all this fun stuff we're seeing. But as I was saying, I think there's a lot of these, I think a lot of these young developers who they are learning to write code with access to AI from the day they start. And it's in a similar way to when I learned to code and when most of you learned to code, you had access to the internet, right? You didn't have to go and buy a programming book.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You didn't have to go to a library to find something. You didn't have to take a programming class. If you wanted to learn go, you wanted to learn Rust or C++ or any other language, for most of us, we could just go to online documentation, We shouldn't get any code documentation we could possibly want. There are tutorials out there. We could read like the official docs.
Starting point is 00:13:26 There are actually like copies of the books that we could have bought anyway online through less than legal means. Or there's video tutorials. If you prefer the idea of a guided class like structure, there are these really good online classes that you can follow that you don't have to pay for. And like you get as good of an experience as what you get in a more like, structured education setting. In fact, in some cases, like when I went through uni, we were watching Linda courses for a couple of my classes.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think my Java class, maybe my C++ class. I don't remember exactly which ones. Definitely the Java. Maybe Java 2. Either way, we were just watching Linda.com courses, which is now, I believe Linda is LinkedIn learning. Linda.com LinkedIn learning.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I think it got acquired or rebranded. Yeah, 2017 they became LinkedIn. Okay, okay. But yeah, like, you can get amazing resources online. Like, you can get amazing resources online. And whilst a lot of people like meme on AI for telling new wrong things, a lot of people are using it, right? A lot of young developers aren't just shying away from these tools. They are using them as a way to hopefully augment their learning,
Starting point is 00:15:02 right? The ones who are just vibing their way through everything, not learning to code, that's not going to help you. But if you're using it as a, hey, I want to, or like, generate me like a programming problem. I'm not sure. about how to do X thing in Python? Like what is what how do I handle F strings in Python? How do how do I make an object in Python? How do I make an object in Python? Like what is um what is operator overloading? How does that work in C++? You can get answers to these questions and I think a lot of people, a lot of people are really bad at using search engines. I don't know if I've talked about this on the podcast, but I think that is a big part of the reason why these AI tools like
Starting point is 00:15:49 popped off so much, right? Like, a lot of us know how to do keyword searching, how to, like, you know, do quoted things to find what we want. But I've seen the way that my housemate use, my roommate uses AI. I've seen the way he uses a search engine. He will ask full-length questions, like what, and not just, like, basic things. Like, what is X person's birth date? what is the weather in this place
Starting point is 00:16:22 give me good local Chinese restaurants, things like that but like full length questions about like complicated topics like he plays factorial and it's like this idea of being able to ask a question and then being able to ask not just that question but then directly ask a follow-up in case you didn't understand something
Starting point is 00:16:46 or if you let's say you were you were being guided through something, effectively having like a guided tour through something, I can see even with mistakes why for a lot of people, this is really engaging, this is really useful, because they don't use a search engine like you would use a search engine anyway. So these tools came along. And for people that operate in that sort of mindset in the first place, it set them up to a position where it just made more sense to interact with than what you were getting by just interacting with Google, by interacting with DuckDug Girl or any of these other search engines.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So it makes sense in my head how this has happened, even if I'm not entirely happy about what we're done here. So overall, like, I don't think AI tools are going away, right? I struggle to believe that is remotely going to happen. There's just way too much investment, not like investment as in money, but mental investment. There are like really experienced,
Starting point is 00:17:58 like 20, 30 year experience developers who they've started using this tooling and they cannot go back to not having this tooling be available. In their mind, this is, like this is how I, work with these tools now, I, like, you could do it. But it's kind of like the way of spoke, like, something's speaking about rust in a similar way, where they go from sea to rust, and they feel like a lot of what they had to do to make
Starting point is 00:18:29 sea safe, rust does for them, and trying to go back to sea feels like you are, like, feels like you're sort of trying to tread through, what's a good example, what's something thick. You're trying to like, you're trying to like swim through custard. Terrible example, but it's like you're putting these weights back on and everything suddenly feels harder. And for people who've started using these tools, these like AI tools, I've heard very similar sorts of things where they are, like they were experienced developers long before AI, but now they've started using it. Going back from that becomes this challenge. I do think, that one thing the cost of AI is causing though is there is a lot of people who were never
Starting point is 00:19:22 interested in engineering, they were never interested in programming, they were interested in the results, right? And this, this like token price increase, this token maxing, this spend as much money as possible, outside of the people that just have infinite disposable wealth, which there are people out there like that, there's a lot of other people who they were never really interested in the process, the art, the enjoyment of building something from scratch. And now that a lot of them are being basically forced to build something from scratch because they don't have the money to spend on the tokens that they were effectively getting for free before, now a lot of them are sort of like re-questioning is this, like, is it even something
Starting point is 00:20:10 I want to do now? And you see this, like, this is not just like a unique, to AI thing, but you see this every so often where it's like, for example, actually, great example. When I was going through uni, my first year had a lot of people. And a lot of the people that were there, they were there because their parents said, you have to go do something with your life. You cannot sit at home and play video games all day. You, like, you like video games. Go learn to make video games.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And a lot of these people realize incredibly quickly, that the interest in playing games and the interest in making games are to very, very distinct interest, let alone the skill set and the knowledge required. You can learn the skills, you can learn the knowledge, but if you fundamentally don't have an interest
Starting point is 00:21:01 in, like, breaking down problems into their rudimentary components, having at least a basic mathematics back, Yes, different areas of programming, or high different mathematics. If you're doing like shader programming and you're doing matrix manipulations, yeah, that's more complicated than knowing basic bullion mathematics. But you still need to have like some sort of basic mathematical background. And a lot of people don't. A lot of people simply don't.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And they joined these and then just very quickly, very quickly burnt out. and I think there's a there's a good and a bad thing about the university structure with university being long it does weed a lot of people out who had zero interest in the field right
Starting point is 00:21:56 and this is something that a lot of boot camps did not let happen they're a lot they've kind of slowed down now are people even still doing coding boot camps I don't actually don't even know coding boot camp this is like a common thing pre-covid The top post I see here is from four years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Oh, I see one post here from a year ago, one from 12 months ago, don't attend coding boot camps. Right. I think the wins have shifted on that one, especially with AI and stuff like that. But with those coding boot camps being so short, you can very quickly start learning your code and doing things before you know if you like something. and AI is a very similar thing, where you can start, like you can generate an entire, not a good one, but an entire video game, an entire website, an entire application,
Starting point is 00:22:54 and do that before you even know whether you like the idea of programming in the first place, and when then you have to go and deal with the hard problems, the token start drying up, you actually have to be an engineer, then you start realizing, oh shit, now I'm in the big leagues, oh shit, I don't want to be here. And I think a lot of people are realizing that with AI and having that, that long-term investment. At the very least, even though university, I do feel like a lot of the classes are badly structured.
Starting point is 00:23:30 The like one lesson a week thing, two lesson a week thing is not a great way to handle things. handling like six subjects at once and then like badly handling very in some case very poorly teaching them there's a lot of problems there let alone like costing and stuff like that but at the very least if you're doing a real serious degree usually you'll get weeded out at least by first year exams right especially if you were like my university where if you failed the exam it did not matter what the rest of your grades were, exam failure is course failure, and you have to reset that course regardless of the rest of your grades. So you could be on like perfect, perfect high distinction. You could have like 99 or 100% scores on everything, and if you failed that exam, well, and that's
Starting point is 00:24:28 especially important now because, well, you can very easily get high grades on exam if you managed to use AI and then not get caught by it. So having that like auto-faily system with a in-paper, in-person on-paper exam, it cooked some people, especially I had some first-year exams, which honestly, I feel like my first-year exams were my worst exams, not because the subjects were hard, just because the exams were very time-constrained and, yeah, that was just very time-constrained and had a lot of questions. on them, so you needed a lot of general knowledge of that course. I could sit here and talk about
Starting point is 00:25:10 AI the entire time. There's just so much to say about it. I don't want to. I can, but I really don't want to. So I think we're going to shift gears a bit. And we're going to talk about the Steam Deck and the Steam Machine. So recently, I guess this is the Australian price. Recently, two weeks ago now, Valve increased the price of the Steam Deck OLED going from 899 Australia to 1199
Starting point is 00:25:42 and the 1 terabyte from 1049 to 1429. What is the American pricing on that? Steam Deck OLED American price increase So that was from...
Starting point is 00:26:02 Here we go. From the Steam announcement. Ah, here we go. Perfect, perfect. So... Uh, wait, that's not showing the original price. Okay, thank you, Valve. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Reddit. Does Reddit have the answer? Reddit. Can someone... Oh my gosh, show me both. What are the fucking both prices? BBC. Do you have the price?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Uh Okay, wait, wait 200 Show me the original fucking price Okay, wait We're talking about AI before Okay, thank you AI overview bullshit
Starting point is 00:26:46 I don't want to search these articles Um 700 Wait, previously 549 now 789 for the 512 And 649 now 949 for the 1 terabyte.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Now, the reason I talk about this is there was another announcement a little bit more recently a couple of days ago, about a week ago now. We now know, at least at this stage, that the steam machine is shipping, or steam machine and frame, are shipping in summer. So that would be soon Um
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's when is when the fuck What USA summer months I don't fucking Like now So now to August basically I did think it was getting a bit colder here Yeah it makes sense there's wind It makes sense that it's winter here
Starting point is 00:27:54 So We still don't know What the price of the steam machine is going to be. But considering the steam deck, which is slower, older hardware, although it does have a screen, is 789 for the 512 model and 949 for the 1 terabyte model, what does that mean for steam machine pricing? Let's see if people have speculated. I did see a post the other day where someone was speculating
Starting point is 00:28:37 that it was going to be like $700 for the steam machine. I I cannot imagine it's going to be anywhere near that at this point. I don't know what price it has to be at
Starting point is 00:28:56 to sell well, but a lot of people like this post was saying, we're expecting $7 to $800 and that would have been a good price, people would have bought that. Apparently, there was a leak of $1,300. I've not heard anyone reporting that leak, so... My knowledge may vary on that one, who knows.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But I think there is a possibility at the very least. Here's what I think's going to happen. I think Valve is going to try their very hardest for the base model to be around $1,000. if possible, I think they're going to try to get the base model under $1,000. And maybe, maybe even take a hit on the base model. I know they've said they don't want to do so. But I think there's a possibility they do it. Just on, like, you know how we used to have the lower tier steam deck?
Starting point is 00:29:53 I think there's a possibility they'll do the same thing here and then eventually discontinue it. And then I think mainline steam machine. I don't want to say it, but I think something like, I do think this 1,500 or 1,500 is likely. If it's anywhere above that, it's fucking, it's dead. It's entirely dead. Like, if you're spending more than 1,500 on this, it doesn't make any sense. This might, Seam machine also might be part of the reason why Steam Controller hasn't been back in stock.
Starting point is 00:30:29 They might be holding stock to make sure steam machine people can get them, which would make sense as well. Who knows? What I do know is I am so worried that this is going to be a repeat of the old steam machine I think things will be different solely based on the fact
Starting point is 00:30:48 that the old steam machine failed because Valve was a little bit too cocky and who was going to buy it and thought oh yeah, we can just put it out there and we'll just communicate with developers and we'll make this happen
Starting point is 00:31:00 but they relied on native games being a thing with the original steam machine and that just simply was not going to have happen. It, like, how many units did they even sell of the original steam machine? Um, I feel it was very small. I don't think they even sold a million. Uh, how many units did the original steam machine sell? Uh, original under 500K,000, summer saying around 300.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah. So not many. Like not like in an insignificant amount. But let's put it in the context of our best selling consoles. There's a Wikipedia page for this one. So let's go. Yeah. Number 58 on the list. It was less than the next playground, which is what the fuck is the next playground? Some bullshit from 2023. the Pegasus, which is a Famicon clone, the Phillips CDI, the Atari 5200, the Mega Drive, all of these sold at least a million units. So like way, way under that. I hope the steam machine, like the new steam machine does better. I am just, I'm apprehensively excited. I think at the very least what the steam machine has done is,
Starting point is 00:32:43 shown people, most deck and machine, shown people that gaming on Linux is a real thing. So even if they are not going to buy a Steam machine, they might game on Linux. I think at the end of the day, it's still a win for me. Although I would want Valve to win here as well, because if they win, that means that they are, they've been invested into Linux for a long time. but if they win, they could justify being even more invested into Linux and like really, really push this. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I think it's going to sell more than the original steam machine, assuming they can have it in stock. I think that's honestly, that's probably their biggest worry right now. Not are people interested in buying it, but can people buy it? Can you actually get your hands on it? like, because that's, that's, that's been a problem this entire time. As for the, as for the frame, I, I know so little about the VR space that it is really hard for me to make any sort of like, reasonable,
Starting point is 00:33:58 reasonable assessment on, like, what actually is going to happen there, right? I don't even, like, what headsets are people using now? Is it like a, I just knocked something off my desk? I don't know what I'd knocked off. Um, I heard something bounce, though. I'll find it afterwards. Like, what headset are people using?
Starting point is 00:34:21 I assume it's like an Oculus. What is the mainstream VR headset? I assume it's like an Oculus or Vibe or something. MetaQuest? Oh, right, yeah, it's meta now at this point, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. MetaQuest 3 is the gold standard standalone headset. Obviously, you have the PlayStation VR2, Vive Pro 2,
Starting point is 00:34:43 just 1600 Okay, okay, that makes sense That makes sense I honestly had no idea And that's another thing right Like where's the frame gonna be priced at? Like what
Starting point is 00:34:56 What What does it need to be priced at To sell well? Secondly, what is it going to be priced at in reality? Thirdly Is Valve going to release anything Like they did with the Valve index
Starting point is 00:35:12 as a marketing piece for the game, right? Like, they had a Half-Life Alex for that one. So a lot of people are like, ooh, could it be another Half-Life Alex type thing? Could it be Half-Life-3? Ooh, ooh, Half-Life... A lot of people are, like...
Starting point is 00:35:26 You know what? I think that's going to be the biggest disappointment of the Steam Machine when it actually has a price announced, when people can actually buy it and they don't announce a Half-Life 3. Because so many people are convinced that this is the time.
Starting point is 00:35:43 We got Half-Life Alex before, this is the time for Half-Life 3. It would be stupid, but they could just say, fuck you, and be like, yeah, we're officially releasing
Starting point is 00:35:55 fucking Deadlock now. Because that's still in, like, early access or whatever it is, isn't it? Can you get the game yet? Yeah, no, it's still in the play test.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Deadlock is such a weird one. It's not what I'm, want to talk about here, but, like, deadlock is such a weird fucking game. How many players does that game have? Yeah, it has fucking 30...
Starting point is 00:36:17 Okay, it peaked at... There was like an update. Okay, it was a big update. It peaked at 100... max. Oh, launch. Peaked at 170. This was shortly after launch.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Then it fell off for a while. There was an update, popped off a bit. Update popped off a bit. Now we're at like 60K here. 30K right at this very, very moment. For a game that's not real, for a game that's not, obviously, for a game that's not released, right, that's fucking crazy, especially when you compare it to games that are released,
Starting point is 00:36:58 that people, you know, don't care about, like, Marathon. You have a game that exists and people can play versus a game that doesn't exist and people can play that has fucking 5x the player count. You can only play this game if you're invited. Now getting an invite is very easy. Literally anyone on fucking Steam can get you an invite, apparently. I've been, like, when this game came out,
Starting point is 00:37:27 I got sent like seven invites. I don't care about it, but like, I got sent a bunch of fucking invites, and you can just get an invite if you go ask and like Reddit or basically anywhere. It is such a weird model. It's a very valve model to handle things. I don't think they're going to release it with the Steam Machine.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I think that would be a massive disappointment. I think they're not stupid. Maybe they do like a deadlock update alongside the Steam Machine. That I could see them doing. But whatever they do release, I really doubt it's going to be Half-Life 3. On that note, I need to play Half-Life 2 at some point. I've only actually... I actually have never played Half-Life.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I've only played Black Mesa. So I need to play Half-Live. original Half-Life and I need to play Half-Life 2 at some point, you know, just on the off chance that maybe, just maybe, just maybe it's going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen, but could. It certainly could. Since we're on the topic of Valve anyway, there was another thing I did want to talk about. Valve recently made a change to how they're handling gift cards, as in they're not handling gift cards. Valve is going to be cutting out physical gifts. gift cards.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I understand why they've done this, even though I'm not happy about it. There's people here are like, how do they scam with gift cards? Basically, basically what's happened here is, steam gift cards are a common gift card for people to be told to go buy in a scam. Like it's, hey, go buy $300 of steam gift cards and then, like, you know, basically what they do with the gift cards is they sell them. They sell them on these, like, there's these secondhand markets. Let's do. Cheap steam gift cards.
Starting point is 00:39:26 There's these, like, sketchy, sketchy kind of websites. Okay, why are some of these more expensive? Okay, this website's less sketchy. Maybe, who knows? I don't know why anyone would spend more on the gift card than the face value, but I guess you can do that. Okay, G2A is apparently down. But there are these sites that will sell them like under, undervalue.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And if you're selling a gift card undervalue, like, that's a stolen gift card. That's 99% of the time a stolen gift card. Valve wants to cut back on this. I get it. It sucks. Because I remember my first game I bought on Steam, I don't know what the game was, but I did buy it with a gift card. And there were a lot of these other games. as a kid that I did with a gift card, right?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Like Roonscape originally, my membership, I see if we can find a picture of them. Roonscape membership gift card. Are they even like, are they even a thing anymore? Do they have them? They still have them? Wait, what? I assumed...
Starting point is 00:40:43 I assumed that they had completely gotten rid of them. Um... Let's see if I can find... Yeah, yeah, this is probably around the time I would have been buying them. $8, it's probably a US version. Yeah, look at this. Membership card, let the adventure begin. Probably around the same time you would have had like wow gift cards in stores as well.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Um, nowadays you just have fucking V-Bucks and um, Robux, V-Bucks and Robox cards in Indian stores for games. Maybe you have like a battle net card, possibly. Obviously, of course, you have a lot of the Steam ones as well. But there's not really any way you can circumvent this problem, right? Unless you would... There is a way you could do it, but it would make a lot more work for the stores. The way you do it is when you buy a gift card, you have to give them your Steam account,
Starting point is 00:41:51 and then that gift card could only be activated on that account. Like that's a very easy way to solve the problem. But it's also then, hey, you have to then trust that the fucking staff at the checkout are going to be entering it correctly, and they're probably not because people's gamer tags are fucking weird. Also, you're going to tell people at the checkout your game attack, and for some of those, your game attack's fucking weird. And you probably don't want to be doing so, but, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It's a sad era, sad time, but I get it. I get what I've ever had to do it. Let's talk about something a bit more happy. Something that is still very expensive, but something that is fucking cool, and I kind of wish more people were talking about it. Oh, don't mute that. I'm going to show you a little video. If you're just watching the video or audio version, I'll explain in just a moment.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So, what you're seeing is a poster. Actually, I just read it. The text is on the screen. You fucking, show original. No, you don't see it anymore. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So you probably got from the text what you just saw, or if you're just listening, you don't know. What I am showing on the screen right now are E-Inc poster displays, like hang-up displays. and they look fucking crazy. These are, they are flapping in the wind, pretty much like, not like, your printing paper,
Starting point is 00:43:34 but like card paper, the kind of paper or like kind of plastic signage that you would see hanging up in a store. And it looks near perfect. It's hard to tell exactly, because I'm not seeing it in person. But when it is static, you cannot tell that this is not a display.
Starting point is 00:43:59 This tech is fucking crazy. On the note of fucking crazy E-Yank. Let me show you something. E-ink. Yeah. Six. There it is. Is this the one from Desung?
Starting point is 00:44:19 I don't think this is the one. This is the one-of- I was looking at, but there are other versions of this. No, okay, no, this is a black and white version, sorry. Um, uh, color. Uh, is this the one from Yonko design? No, where is it? I had it, I should have grabbed the link.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Basically what, um, there, there is a 60 Hertz Color E-Y ink. 60 Hertz Color E-ink You can legitimately use this as a computer monitor
Starting point is 00:45:10 It's got It's got to be in my history surely Display E-ink Where is it? Fuck!
Starting point is 00:45:33 Not going to find it Now. Ah! No, okay. Either way. Either way. Like, E-Ink is fucking crazy. Is this the one? Wait, okay, this is not... Okay, this is not the product page, but this is someone showing it off. Obviously, colors are washed out compared to like
Starting point is 00:46:00 an IPS panel compared to, like, any, like, even just like a TN panel. But this very well... This very well may... From Bookes, maybe I can find... This very well may be, like, the future of... Work displays. Bookes Mirror Pro, is that it? Yes. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Shit, found it. Lovely. Okay. Bookes Mirror Pro. This is a colour E-ink. I believe you can run it at... Yeah, native resolution is that, but you can run it like a lower resolution. I think like 1440p, you can get 6.4.0. 30 hertz, otherwise runs at 30 hertz.
Starting point is 00:46:42 As a work display, as a display that you look at all day, this I think is going to change the fucking game. Not this display in particular, but like this technology, being able to have paper, paper in front of you and then not have the e-ink problem of it takes fucking 10 years to load the next frame, which made them fine for reading, right? Like, it, oh, you turn a page, it loads, that's fine. But for, like, actual productivity, 60 hertz is like a, you can get away with 30 hertz, but 60 hertz is much preferred. Like, you could, you could game on this. I wonder if anyone's done that. Okay, I don't know why LTT has never covered this thing. It's a
Starting point is 00:47:37 fucking cool, really cool bit of tech. Um, I'm excited. I am really excited. I would love to be out of like, the problem is they're very expensive right now. I would love to better have something like this as like a, if I wanted to go to like a work machine, it would be totally fine for working, maybe, maybe it's a bad thing, but like working into the night, having something like this and not worrying about ice strain anywhere near as much would be fucking crazy. And I don't know why we are not like, I don't know why we're not putting even more into this tech.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Like getting this to a point where you don't need to have some like, especially you're not doing like color sensitive work right? If you are a developer on a, I don't know, backend stuff. If you're a fucking developer on backend stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:48:36 And all you need to know is does the server work? It doesn't matter what the colors look like. As long as long as it's fun. It's fine. Yeah, if you're doing like color-sensitive work,
Starting point is 00:48:48 you're doing game development, especially indie stuff where you're doing like seven different tasks, sure. But if you're doing music production, you don't need to care about like colors of things, as long as you can distinguish the visual elements on the screen. If you're doing, if you're a web developer and you're just following a design doc,
Starting point is 00:49:06 you just follow the design doc, what the design doc tells you, if you're doing data entry, right, and all you're doing all day is filling out Excel spreadsheet, and writing fucking Excel macros, if you're a writer, if you're a writer, if you're a fucking writer,
Starting point is 00:49:24 having a E-ink display as your main display, not having to stare at this like really bright, like glowing panel, especially if you like working late at night. I don't know where this tech goes. E-ink is one of those things which is really just like
Starting point is 00:49:42 going under the radar. No one's like, like, people still think of E-ink as this, like, thing for reading tablets and stuff like that. But, like, I think there is a... I think there is a real future for this tech being, like, super cool. Let alone, like, low-power stuff, right? Like, example here, you've got this, like, weather display sort of thing. Like, that, yeah, you can very well do stuff like that as well.
Starting point is 00:50:14 There's no reason to have a glowing panel for something like this, unless you, for some reason, need to be able to see it at night. But I think there's like so many, so many areas where this is going to change everything that I hope this tech keeps getting invested into. And I hope we get to a point where you could reasonably buy a E-ink display. It's not $3,000. The other problem with the, um, the mirror pro is it's like 23 and a half inches, which is a little small.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, it's workable, but I would prefer at least 27 inches. But who knows? Who knows? I didn't think we'd have tech like this at all in the first place. So the fact that we have anything, I think is super cool.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But, hey, if you don't and you like your glowing bullshit displays, hey, enjoy your glowing bullshit displays. To be fair, I have a glowing bullshit display as well. You might have noticed some of my recent videos that my UI elements were a little bit smaller. That's because I upgraded my monitor. By upgraded my monitor, I mean I replaced my old monitor because it died. So what happened?
Starting point is 00:51:31 Well, I'm not entirely sure what happened, but the result of what I saw is I noticed, like, maybe like two or so weeks, maybe even longer. I would turn my system on and I wouldn't see any video output. until I got to the TTIY, right? It would go through, it would go through Grub, it would go through like booting into the system
Starting point is 00:51:58 through System D and then like 10 seconds after that I would then have output on my screen. But the thing is, I saw output on my secondary displays for the TTY basically as soon as it got there. So it was something weird,
Starting point is 00:52:11 but like my monitor had always taken a long time to power cycle anyways. Yeah, it was weird, but it was nothing like crazy out of the ordinary. The point where it became a real problem is when I got to the TTIY and it never gave me display output, but it didn't say that a display, like a, nothing was connected. So it wasn't like, oh, it couldn't detect my display port, or if I swapped my HGMI, it couldn't detect my, my HGMI. I swapped like ports on the GPU as well, and that was fine.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So it wouldn't go and display anything. So it was like the panel was showing color. It wasn't in sleep mode, but it was just all black. It wouldn't show anything until I did a full reboot of the monitor. And that was fine for, I would say about another week and a half or so. Then another problem started. Then I turned it on and I watched it kind of like, imagine you like light the screen on fire and you just watch it melt internally.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You would see a line just turn to brown, then turn to black and fade all out. And that happened on the TTY, which maybe it was happening longer and I just didn't notice because sometimes I'd like boot my system up and then like, I don't know, go take a piss or get some breakfast or something, and then come back. So maybe it was doing it for longer and I didn't know. When I really noticed it, like, that's not right, is when... Okay, so for a while that happened and then I would power cycle and then it just worked. Then I power cycled and every time I power cycled, it would do the exact same thing. I opened up KDE and watched all of the colour of my wallpaper burn out and it eventually all just fade to black.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Then I started messing with some monitor settings and then it worked a little bit again. So I guess like something internally by like changing a setting from like 1080p to 720 or change the refresh rate caused it to like refresh something. and it would work again. Then eventually it just stopped entirely. I would turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, turn it on, turn it off, turn it on. It would just keep repeating the same thing. I was like, okay, this is done, this is cooked. I cannot use this display anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So, then I ended up going and buying a new display. I had wanted to buy a new monitor at some point anyway. I just wanted to wait until Black, not Black Friday, end of financial year sales which is like end of tax season in Australia. I don't know if America has like tax season sales, we have tax season sales here. So it's like
Starting point is 00:54:55 just before tax season, you want to buy a big thing and then tax write off sort of deal. I don't know if this thing in the US, we do have that. We have Black Friday here as well now, but that was our main sales. I couldn't do that. So I had to go buy a monitor. I ended up going after stream and
Starting point is 00:55:12 what did they end up doing going to jb. Hi-Fi is like our, our main sort of tech and tech-adjacent retailer in Australia. They have, like, monitors, they have TVs, they have cameras, they have electric scooters, they have DVDs and Blu-rays, and they have some fucking records now as well, because people like records. First, um, first DB Hi-Fi I went to, I went through the section and, uh, well, they're monitor.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Their monitor options were not very great. They had like one monitor that I would even consider buying. The rest were like really consumer corpo stuff. Like you need a monitor for an office, not I'm replacing my 165 hertz gaming monitor. So it was like 60 hertz, 1080p, 24 inches, maybe 27 inches. I also, eh, eh. So I went to another one. I went to another one.
Starting point is 00:56:17 They had a couple of choices. Now, originally, I wanted to buy another 1080p display. I've been on 1080p, since 1080P, basically. I never really had an interest in either 1440 or 4K. But considering my options, and considering that there were not really that many reasonable options I could get in a reasonable time anyway, I had to settle with what I could get.
Starting point is 00:56:47 So what I ended up settling on was a... I don't know if we had to find the exact one. LG Ultra Gear 1440p 180 Hertz is this the one? I think it's this
Starting point is 00:57:07 one? Um... Wait. Uh... Barling's Rear-House. Is this one, you're going to docks me? Nah, we're good. I think this is the one.
Starting point is 00:57:24 If not the one, a very similar... Oh no, this is not the one because this is 200 hertz. Okay, not the one, but very similar one. It... It looks better. I was running a VA panel before. I was running a VA panel because I had a curve monitor, and if you want to do curve monitor, you have to do VA.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I... It was very unpleasant going back to a flat display. I have not been using a flat display for a long, long time. I have a flat display is like my vertical, but as my main monitor, going back to flat was unpleasant. Now that I'm back on it, like I've gotten used to it,
Starting point is 00:58:05 I still see... So here's the thing, right? I got so used to the curve that going back to a flat display, a flat display is now curved. And it actually is... Like, it's not curved, but it looks curved
Starting point is 00:58:18 because of the distance you sit away from, at the distance of your eyes and it looks like it's curved like outwards so the curve display curves inwards and it like negates that curve so when I look at the bottom of my display I still see a curve now but like it it slightly bothers me less as for 1440 I wasn't sure what to think about it because again I've not used it I didn't want to go 4K because 4K you need scaling and well scaling scaling scaling on Linux is It's there. It is certainly there. Although, um...
Starting point is 00:58:54 Ugh. Yeah. I didn't want to do it. I definitely not want to do it. If I wanted to do scaling, I'd pretty much have to go to KDE as like my permanent thing. Maybe you can do scaling and neri. I actually don't know. I don't know if there's like a general setting for it. You could like configure per toolkit.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Neri display scaling. Probably got to configure per toolkit. Uh, you can, okay, you can actually like hard scale. a monitor. I've not messed around with that, so I don't know how well that works. I might try it out and see what happens. Either way, 1440, 27 inches,
Starting point is 00:59:38 I think is the hard cap for 1440. I think it's the hard cap for no scaling. My eyes are fine. I probably didn't get another eye test done. Last time I got my eyes test. They're like, your eyes are good, fuck off. So I haven't done in a couple of years now. But if I was to go anymore, it would probably be unpleasant.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'll probably... I would have to scale. But, here's the interesting thing. If you go up in monitor size, 1440 at 32 inches is roughly... Not exactly the same, but roughly about 1080. DPI wise.
Starting point is 01:00:24 So if you have the space for 32 inches, and that's really big, like my... The first flat screen TV that I bought was a 32 inch TV. So the idea of that being a monitor is fucking mental to me.
Starting point is 01:00:40 My first TV I had was way smaller. But it was a fucking CRT, whatever. But if you have the space for 32 inches and you don't want to 4, and your eyes are bad and you don't want to scale 1440, that I would go with. If I didn't have the secondary monitor or like I didn't have the speakers here, I probably
Starting point is 01:01:01 could go with it. Actually, especially if I didn't have the speakers, but also you still see the monitor in like the back of the shot around here. If I go 32 inches and I've tried it with my house space monitor, it goes up to about here and that's a problem. I cannot, I cannot have that much I cannot have that much space. Like, yes, I could, like, raise up the camera, and then, like, it's not an issue anymore. But, I, like, I'm not going to do that. Plus, 32 inches is fucking massive.
Starting point is 01:01:40 If you've never used a display that big on your desk, it's fucking stupid big. I feel like you need a really deep desk for that to make sense. But at that point, how deep are you making it? and then are you sort of negating the fact that you have a 32 inch display anyway if you put it so fucking far away. That's my thought at least. I have wanted to try like an ultra-wide at some point.
Starting point is 01:02:03 The problem with ultra-wides is... Honestly, my main problem with an ultra-wide is video production. If I was to have a machine that was separate from video creation, I probably would try out an ultra-wide. But that was my main concern with 1440P. whether it starts being annoying for videos
Starting point is 01:02:25 because UI elements are smaller and I've got to like zoom in more to do things and make it viewable and stuff like that. But I feel like I've mostly made it work. To be fair, I've not really tried any complex UI stuff since doing the movement. So who knows? Maybe it'll be a problem when I get to some complicated application.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Maybe if I do like another video on Caden Live or something like that. Um, that could be a, that could be a concern, but who knows, who knows. That is a problem that we deal with when we get to that problem. For now, I'm happy I have a monitor that works, and it turns on properly. I did have to make sure I turned off, why is this a fucking setting? Had a fucking auto brightness setting? I had to turn off the goddamn auto brightness setting, because if the auto brightness was on,
Starting point is 01:03:15 it would, uh, well, auto brightness things. I didn't notice it for a couple of days. I was like, I thought something was weird, but like sometimes, you know, your eyes adjusts weirdly to different lighting and stuff like that. I thought just like my eyes were adjusting weirdly. Then I actually tested it between a dark and a light scene. I was like, ah, how the fuck do I fix that? The other thing I had to do is there's like a setting for the, what do you call? Like the, the greater, not great, is it great area?
Starting point is 01:03:46 There's like a setting for like... I think it was the grade degree setting and it's like fast, fast... It's like slow, fast, faster, fastest, anything like that. And the top settings you go fastest, it causes the screen to very, very subtly flicker. And...
Starting point is 01:04:06 Ah, no, no, no, um... In one of the spare rooms here, we have an old plasma TV. I forgot how bad plasma flickers. Plasma is rough with flickering. I don't, like, I don't want to see anything changing. I want you to trick my brain into thinking that we are looking at a, like,
Starting point is 01:04:36 at like a static image that is not moving or a animation on the screen. I do not want to know that I'm looking at a screen. That, besides just hurting my eyes, completely. takes me out of it and it's unpleasant. So I made sure to turn that setting down. I've not really played around with like monitor color settings, so I'm not really sure about that. I will say this display is vastly fucking brighter than my other displays though. So that is something that I also noticed in the videos where there's just like this, especially if I had like a white background, it's just like this fucking glowing bullshit on my face now.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Also, the first couple of days of looking at it did kind of hurt a little bit. I don't especially when I was getting late at night. So, yeah. I think it's also an HDR display as well. I don't use HDR. I have an HDR display now, so I probably should try it, I guess. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I've never really been like a, kind of like ray tracing. I've never really been like a big HDR enjoyer, HDR carer. I've tried HDR displays, but, you know. Oh, one thing I will say about fucking J.B. Hi-Fi. Do you want to know how they show off their monitors? They don't show their TVs off like this. The way they show off their monitors is they have a looped video of their logo. So, J.B. High-Fi, in case you don't know, you probably don't know if you're not Australia.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I can't imagine. I can't imagine J.B. Hi-Fi is very well known outside of Australia. Here we go, J.B. Hi-Fi. You know what? That's perfect. That right there is fucking perfect. J.B. High-Fi. So they basically just have like a logo and a bit of an animation. It's like prices. J-B. High-Fi. Wow, we do great things.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And that's just on loop. Now, the problem with that, firstly, is how the fuck do you compare monitors when the only thing you're seeing on the screen is black and yellow? You can't. It's a fucking... mystery. Like, you kind of just have to go off the spec sheet because you can't, you cannot visually tell the difference between them, which is why they don't do that with the TVs, and instead either play stock footage or a movie or stuff like that. Second problem, second problem, they encoded the video a long fucking time ago, and probably
Starting point is 01:07:05 encoded, it's probably like a YouTube version of the video, because it's very low-res, it's real crunchy. So, not only, Are you running a black and yellow video as your demo to see the colors of a display? Also, it is so low res that every single display looks like it is at most 720p. Possibly the worst, possibly the worst, possibly the worst, possibly the worst way to ever showcase any display hardware I have ever seen. point, just don't turn them on. Just leave them off because you're getting the same thing anyway. On that, on the note of J.B. High-Fi, I did do the thing that I do every time I go there, which is try to scare the normies. I go onto the max and I open up a terminal and
Starting point is 01:08:03 open up like a top or some other, some other scary hacker looking thing. Always a fun thing to do. Anytime you go to a text store that has computers there, always go on. and run tree, always go and run whatever Macs have pre-installed. If you somehow have a Linux system there, see what you can do with that and, uh, you know, scare the normies. Thankfully, the employees of DB-Fi typically know what they're doing, but, um, the customers, uh, the customers a bit less so, so you can, uh, you can definitely, you can definitely, scare them a little bit. Um, oh god. Who are gonna go on over an hour?
Starting point is 01:08:47 Fuck. I dropped the whole solo episodes for a while, and now I thought like I was gonna be a bit rusty. I've been doing the streams, obviously, but the streams I can get away with just like, you know, talking bullshit and playing the video game. Here I actually gotta talk for like over an hour. Somehow we're still doing it.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Fuck, I still got it in me. Shit. I actually didn't think we'd be out of, we'd have to keep this up. So, um, speaking of, keeping things up. That's not a great segue. I assume you guys saw the video
Starting point is 01:09:20 on the Gannon Foundation. The Ghanome Foundation video was very interesting. One interesting part is there were people that were angry about me making drama. Yes, I'm the one that was making the drama,
Starting point is 01:09:42 not very, the people that caused the drama. No, no, no, no, no. The messenger, that's the one who started the drama. The one who literally read the words that were being said, that's the one who started the drama. True. Anyway, in case you didn't know, this is all allegedly, basically what happened. I can find the post now. Basically, Robert McQueen is, rerunning as a board candidate. And during his tenure, there has been a number of problems, notably with the sovereign tech fund. So the sovereign tech fund, that was the big investment. Gnome had into the million euro investment, big deal, working on accessibility and various other things.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And during that time, considering that we're now just asking for an opportunity, apology and not lawsuits. During that time, there were people who were not getting paid for their contract work. Yep. Now, during that time, you might recall a Mr. Sunny peers being removed from the board and being banned from the foundation. That is directly related to that situation. Basically, Sunny was pretty much acting, like, I would say, like, a step away from going whistleblower where he raised this to Robert McQueen, he raised this, he was going to raise this to the rest of the board, and during that situation, again, allegedly, was removed from the board
Starting point is 01:11:29 for intimidating the board for being, basically being a meany bum effectively. And I'll see if you can find the other thing about this. So somebody also somebody from an alt, some, some, some probably Gnome committee person, posting from an alt, basically said, yo, we can't just have people that are like threatening the board or saying things, oppressing or urgent, this is the time we must be cool and composed and collaboration is most important. Sunny, you acted emotionally and let yourself in the board and the Gnome Foundation, let down yourself the board and the Gnome Foundation as such. only right and prop for you to apologize to Rob and the board feel frankly disgraceful
Starting point is 01:12:17 and impressional behavior. Now, the reason, the reason this is for an alt is because this would be just cause to remove this person from the foundation. That's why they posted from an alt because they were also breaking the Canoam COC if they were a member of the foundation, likely a member of the COC committee. So Sunny's post goes into more than just that, Also going into the fact that seven years ago back in 2019 Rob was promising Flat Hub payment so if you don't remember
Starting point is 01:12:50 Flat Hub was supposed to have paid applications and also like donations building the platform seven years ago this was mentioned was that my video on it? No that's the LAS video seven years ago we're talking like building an app store on FlatHub
Starting point is 01:13:06 um I 6 it's posted in December but it was from seven years ago 2019 Then in 2022 and 2024, and it hasn't happened. And I can assure you that it doesn't take seven years to start up a online store. Now, it might take two, might take three.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And if it's a situation where nobody wants to work on it, make a statement. Say, hey, we wanted to do this, but it ultimately wasn't going to happen because developers weren't interested. And if developers aren't interested, totally fair, totally reasonable. The issue is it's basically like continuing to promise it over and over again and it just doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Not brought up by Sunny but I will also mention relevant to this Flat Hub was supposed to be spun out into a separate organization. It was spun out as a subsidiary of the Gnome Foundation. Also that. Then there's the fact that they handed
Starting point is 01:14:07 that Sunny had handed over the contract Oh, Sunny and Tobias, who both were like running it together, basically handed things over to the Gronome Foundation to continue the SDF project, and they completely dropped the ball because KDE is now being funded, and I have a feeling KDE is probably going to go for another funding round. But Sonny makes claims in here, like, Rob tried to sort of sabotage Sunny's ability to communicate with the board, to hold a meeting, to make it aware that things were happening,
Starting point is 01:14:39 Sunny got permanently banned and then unband and then when Sunny tried... Firstly, Sonny was running a mini-Guardic, which I think is very interesting. I have a feel... He's not confirmed this with me and I've not seen it anywhere out there. I have a feeling Sunny was sort of
Starting point is 01:14:55 in the motions of sort of splitting the Ghanom community, right? If you set up a mini-guardic, you set up your own Gardeck, that's going to eventually be like in direct competition with Maine Guadec. Right?
Starting point is 01:15:12 And for the people to only go to one convention each year, there's going to be people that make that decision on one or the other. But when he was doing that, when he was trying to arrange meetings to explain things to the board, he was banned again. It was very messy. Oh, other very interesting thing there. And it feels like a giant conflict of interest.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And I don't know whether Go No Foundation allows this. You can be both on the board and the CRC committee at the same time. So if you're on the board and here you go, after reviewing the case, the new board undid my ban, which prompted Federico, which is the member of the CRC committee, to propose a motion to ban me permanently again. That did not receive any support. But that was acting as a member of the board. He's also a member of the CSC committee and that means they can just entirely circumvent the board and just hand out bans whenever they want. If someone is on the board, the COC committee can't do that. But if it's just like a regular foundation member, the COC committee has complete free reign in who they ban for whatever reason. Which is, again, you shouldn't be able to be on the board and the COC committee at the same time. In fact, the board should have complete oversight of the COC committee.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Now, following Sunny putting this out, well actually before Sunny put this out, Jordan Petrodis had already had already put out this like fairly angry comment about Robb notably a good, a very important part is it's, you know what, it's fucking crazy to me that Gnome people are actually admitting that this happened at some point
Starting point is 01:17:00 where the Gnome Foundation almost went bankrupt. I remember talking about this and a bunch of people have talked about this and I was told no, no, no, no, no, no, trust plan, trust the process. The foundation has to spend all this money. And we're at a point now we can own people or being like, hey guys, what the hell happened? Why did we almost go bankrupt? Let alone hiring Holly, which felt like just a weird choice anyway. But following that post from Sunny, there was like, there were replies here from Robert and there replies from another
Starting point is 01:17:37 person who's already been in the thread. But those are the comment here from Sebastian again, who I think the interesting thing is I think a lot of people are not yet fully willing to
Starting point is 01:17:55 commit. So we've got a lot of people this thread is really really we'll call it hot. A real hot thread. And that's without the including the stuff that is being hidden, like the things I showed you before,
Starting point is 01:18:10 which have not exist in the thread for about a day or two now because they got directly hidden because that COC committee member got called out for posting on an alt. But we have a couple of people in here, like Jonas, like Sebastian, who are being like, also like Sunny, who's not a member of the foundation anymore, so his comment doesn't really have any direct weight,
Starting point is 01:18:31 who are saying, I don't trust Robert to run on the board again, but you're also seeing other people who are directly supporting this. So you have, let's see, we had a foundation director, we have Ghanome team member Shri. Isn't Shri, hold up. Gnome Wikipedia. Sorry, you just need to all check something. Gnome Shell.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Sorry, no, it's a different person. Gnome Project, wait. No, okay, sorry, I thought it was a different person. Um, yeah, anyway, this person been around the project a long time anyway. They're both supporting Robert running. You also have, um, where's, where is he? Um, you also, yeah, Cassidy James. Cassidy James, who was also supporting, who's also supporting Rob running.
Starting point is 01:19:47 I have a real sneaking suspicion that if they let Rob run, And especially if Rob actually gets elected once again, I think this might be the time that Ghanom people finally stop coping. I like Robert, right? I like Robert. And if he wants to be involved in Gnome, that's fine. But there's a lot of people in the foundation right now, a lot of notable people who really don't want this to happen.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And if this does happen, especially with Jordan Petrus, who's been like Gennon. Gome Copa for the longest time now, being like openly anti-foundation and a bunch of other people being openly anti-foundation. I legitimately think that if this does happen, if not this event, something around, like something shortly after this, I think is going to be the thing that finally causes a split. Maybe not a project split, but a foundation split. where a secondary foundation gets set up, some additional structure with like Stephen Diebold being in it, Sunny Pears, probably Jordan Petrodos in this case.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I don't know what Sebastian Wick has said, probably just yelling about me talking about it. Who knows? But I know some other people like Harri Rana are very much, not maybe not against, but at least like openly questioning the foundation ever since Sunny. and now knowing what happened, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:21:28 I don't know how long the cope can go on for, right? I coped for Kingdom Hearts 4 for a long time, and it finally happened, but I don't know how long the cope can really go on for before someone has to just say, enough is enough, like something needs to change. I will be keeping a close eye on this election
Starting point is 01:21:50 and what goes on with it. if it doesn't happen this time, I do think that whatever the next major fuck-up is, it's like on that list, right? Like, each of these individual things are not necessarily terrible by themselves, right? Like, having seven years for the store is not terrible. Theoretically, allegedly, not paying out invoices
Starting point is 01:22:13 is not terrible by itself, if they get paid eventually, of course. Banning someone from the board is not terrible by itself. mismanaging the funds to the point where the foundation almost goes bankrupt is not terrible by itself. That's a pretty bad one, but it's not terrible by itself. But when you have all of these dot points, all of these points eventually start making a line. And that line goes in a direction. And that direction, I don't think, is a good thing. I know I've been like very critical to Gnome over the years, right?
Starting point is 01:22:48 I'm well aware that I've been very critical of Gnome. At the same time, though, I am critical. of Ghanome, because I want a strong Gnome. I don't think the direction they've been going for the past, probably decade now, has been healthy for the project. And it shows in the install numbers, right? Gnome, no one gives a shit about Gnome on Arch anymore. And those are probably some of the best numbers we have.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Fedora now has a KDE version. There is, like, even, even if you go to the Gnome subreddit, it, which is like home territory copeland, even there, people are starting to question Ghanom. Every other post is, oh, I don't hate Ganyme that much. Or Gnome is actually, oh, if you install extensions, Gnome is good. Or when Stephen Dieuble put a post out called Stay and Fight, people were like, it's too little too late, I'm done with the foundation.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Right? Like, this sentiment shift is happening. And I do not know how long they can keep. heap that up, especially with stuff like this happening. Let alone the fact that it was kind of revealed by Sunny that Stephen was also kicked out of the board as well, which I had my suspicions about, considering how short his tenure was, and the point where his tenure ended was basically when he started ruffling some feathers and trying to change things and trying to improve things.
Starting point is 01:24:19 I think what Ghanom needs is like new blood is new leadership that is willing to bring life back into this project I think some of the younger people in Ghanom like people like wait what is this
Starting point is 01:24:36 gross conflicts of interest what is this is this what is this wait I just this is a new thread I'm not even aware of this one wait this is like a day ago this was posted
Starting point is 01:25:00 Do-do. This is a Guadec meeting. I want to ask some questions about conflict-s interest that I observed at the Foundation. I understand the tight in the group such as the Ghanone Foundation appoints can be made
Starting point is 01:25:11 that look like nepotism at first. Holy shit. Since most foundation are no interest in being actively involved. However, it seems that over time the situation has corroded some fundamental principles around conflict of interest.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Specifically, you must not place people in positions where they can abuse their power and do favour people close Jesus fucking Christ Yeah, okay I think there is a I think there is like a A high chance
Starting point is 01:25:46 What does Stephen say here? You've got some mixed terminology I have not read this thread I'm like just seeing this now It's a long thread as well Um Beyond legal conflicts and interest Government literature also discussed, we define, okay, we're defining terms here.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Was this, was the, was the, what is that in context with? Was the relationship disclosed? What is that in reference to? I, I, yeah, okay, I'm going to go read this. I'm going to read this in my own time. But it's, you know, the thing I said that was going to happen, I think is starting to happen. Um, I think the, I, I think that like, there's starting to be like a clean up of, or at least, if not a cleanup, at the very least, an acknowledgement of the rot. An acknowledgement of the rot in the foundation that needs to be ironed out. Because most of, most of the rest of what's going on here, like most of the rest of what's going on, people are just chilling. COC reforms. Oh my God, another one. To buy a.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Bernard. At last year's AGM, someone raised a concern, I paraphrase as what if what happened to Sunny happens again? At the time we were reassured the CSI reform was planned and the Sunny's case was so special, how just a few weeks later something similar did happen again. Another world-like person who was vocal about the same kinds of reforms as Sunny suddenly disappeared from the nation, Stephen the executive, like big boss at the time. Well, I don't know what happened in detail. The situation was reminiscent. How do you want to reform
Starting point is 01:27:58 the CSC committee and procedures to regain the community's trust? Beyond technical changes procedures, term limits, appeal, processes, more oversight. It's my view that the situation with Stephen was very different to the one with Sunny. I want to know, what the fuck did Stephen
Starting point is 01:28:16 do? What feather, like Sonny was removed because he was going to, like, whistleblow about the fat, allegedly, about the foundation not paying invoices. What the, I want to know what Stephen did. Like, Stephen got kicked out way quicker. I want to know what the fuck Stephen did.
Starting point is 01:28:37 But it was a temporary ban. Stephen is posting in the thread now, so the ban has been lifted. We've gone to CSI reform and conduct arrangements or generally in Gnome. There's a plan to run a community consultation around conduct arrangements in Gnome, which has done some initial work on, but erinistic. We're hoping to run. the consultation prior to the election.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Next window is likely in September. The aim would be to let everyone in the community give input, to come up with recommendations get more feedback, then implement the changes. I direct personal experience with exactly this problem in a trade
Starting point is 01:29:20 union. I was later elected. I learned the actual reasons for the exclusion... That refusal... This is what opacity costs and it is why I believe in radical transparency at a fault.
Starting point is 01:29:35 I like this guy. I don't know what he stands for but I like this guy just on this stance. Concretely, this means the community should always know
Starting point is 01:29:42 how many procedures are currently before the seriously committee and the status of each one. Transparency reports are already a very good start. Yeah, they are posting these like weekly
Starting point is 01:29:50 or monthly reports now about what they're doing. It's not even like real transparency. It's just literally just effectively meeting minutes. That is how opaque the foundation was. Transparency Upstream makes accountability downstream unavoidable. I also support term limits, fair enough, and stagger rotation for CSC committee members.
Starting point is 01:30:11 So term limits and you can't go back into the COC committee immediately after you were last in it. I think that's also a reasonable thing. So if there is a bad person, you can get rid of them and they can't go back in for X number of time, year, two years, whatever they're, whatever system they want to go with. I'm where this creates real risk in an organization like ours where many things are public and written individuals could easily be identified, both the person raising a concern of the person being investigated. Sure, but I think at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:30:43 that should be public. Finally, I oppose that each AGM members elect an independent oversight committee drawn from foundation members who are not board members. That, okay, that I think is interesting, with the mandate to audit COC whore Ho! Ho! Ho!
Starting point is 01:31:01 I think this guy is fixing for a ban. Holy shit. Okay, I like this guy. I like this guy. Gileim Bernard? Gillum, Gillam... Sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Give me... Let us... How to say... I think it's Italian. French. French. Apologies. Oh, you can't hear my desktop audio. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Oh, okay, I'll, why can't you hear my desktop audio? That is a question. Right. Okay. Properties, device. Default. If I play that again, can we hear it? Native speaker, one word at the time.
Starting point is 01:31:53 I'm Mark, and in this video, so let's get started. Today, old school yet and your name is Guillaume. Okay, there we go. Guillaume? Is that right? I don't know. I'm not French. Anyway, not important. I got sidetracked. So, auditing from the foundation members, that report will be submitted to and improved by the AGM. I recognize who would like to require amending the bylaws, as I see no mention of already. The measure of success is simple. The next time something difficult happens, Foundation explains what process was followed and the community can verify.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Holy shit. Okay, I like this guy. on a committee about sexual abuse and harassment. I've attended in-person workshops and also conducted training my colleagues. They're clear to find guidelines internally public to be followed when a complaint is made. See, that's the thing about Sonny's case, right? They didn't state anything of what he did. So people were speculating. Did he, like, assault someone?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Did he sexually assault someone? He didn't. He was just a meany bum. But, like, because there was no explanation, people were just like running wild. Concerns have been raised that some respondents were not adequately informed of the allegations against... Oh yeah, Sonny also apparently, allegedly, didn't even know why he was removed. And therefore had no opportunity to present their position.
Starting point is 01:33:18 If true, this should be addressed. While it's important to protect privacy and sense of details, investigation concludes without consulting individuals directly is incomplete. In addition, a key priority would be broadening and strengthening the polar candidates eligible to serve on the codontoc committee, the ED president, vice president, vice president, can serve as temporary members with appropriate training. This list can be expanded to include more community members. Again, I don't think sitting, I don't think sitting board members should have anything to do with the COC committee. I think that's a massive conflict of interest, but who knows if they're going to do that.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Finally, for most serious cases, a member with relevant experience in government mediation, sure, okay, I think this is mostly reasonable as well. So it sounds like a lot of that, a lot of that like ironing things. out stuff is already starting to happen. So I thought, yeah, I think if, I think if, um, if Sonny, if it's sunny, if Robert is allowed to run again, if he is especially voted in, I think this might actually really cause a shift. Like shifts are already happening. I think if it goes even further, I think it'll be hard to not cause a shift to happen. Yeah, I look, I wish the new blood some,
Starting point is 01:34:39 the best of luck. I do. I hope things go well for you guys. Because I think you're in for a very, very rocky time if things are not properly handled here. But we shall, we shall certainly see, shaltwee shaltwee shantwee one of those probably neither of them um either way uh yeah yeah so i'm gonna move on from that um you know what i have here i i've had this sitting at my desk for like two weeks now i've not fucking gone and used it i have a pebble i have one of the new pebbles i i've just i've like just not done a video on it yet i'm not not even just not in a video i've not used it properly yet so
Starting point is 01:35:32 In case you don't know, I do actually have a smartwatch. My daily driver is the... Have my address on there or anything? No, it's just time. My main daily driver is the very long since discontinued Vivo Active HR. This is a Garmin watch. I don't even know when they discontinued it. Vivo Active HR. It's got it like fucking seven years ago.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Um discontinued Originally in 2016 When did they discontinue it I want to say it was like 2022, 2023 something like that Um
Starting point is 01:36:18 When When was the Vivo Active HR discontinued? Oh no It came out in 2016 they discontinued it in 2017. I've had this watch for basically 10 years now. This is like an early, early smart watch.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Why do I still have it? It still works. This thing, I wear it every single day. It has like a two-week battery life after all this time. I have taken this into the sauna. it has been through shit loads of heat and shit loads of sweat and still works perfectly fine
Starting point is 01:37:15 yeah it's a little bit laggy yeah it's not the fastest thing out there but as a watch and as a step tracker I have not wanted to replace this however I did have a dream as a kid about the pebble I saw the pebble come along and I really wanted a pebble. So when I saw
Starting point is 01:37:37 re-pebble, when I saw, I think they they actually just called pebble now. I think they bought the pebble name. Yeah, they still got the domain re-pebble, but they've, um, they actually bought the name pebble. When I saw that the pebble was coming back,
Starting point is 01:37:54 I really wanted it. I really had to get it. And I've used it a little bit. I've got like a, I wonder if I didn't show you. How do I turn it on? That one? what's the button or is it that one? Fuck, I don't remember the button turned it on. That was that one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I've got a little watch on here. A little watch face on here. You're not going to be able to see it because it's small. Maybe you can see it. Can we focus on it? We can't focus on it, though, can we? It's a little like little Pokemon watch face where you take a number of steps
Starting point is 01:38:30 and the egg hatches and then the Pokemon evolves. We take more steps and evolves into its final form. if you like doing 10,000 steps a day kind of deal and you want a excuse to walk around and something neat to look at, it's a cool little watch face. But I need to mess around with it more.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I really can't even give my like full feedback on the watch as it currently stands because I just don't. I've just not used enough. I love the fucking, this bullshit Vivo active HR thing so goddamn much. It's so hard to put it down. It's so convenient.
Starting point is 01:39:05 It's, yes, the fucking, the fucking bullshit censor thing is giant and digs into my wrist. But it's just, I've had it for so long that changing to anything else, it just, it just feels like I'm leaving the pass behind. It feels like I'm losing something. And, I don't know, obviously I'm being fucking facetious here. But every time I, like, get up in the morning, I reach for this one. just because I've always used. I need to actually properly use this for like a week or so and like get my real thoughts on it.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Granted, I use a smart watch very little anyway. It's basically just a step tracker and that's mostly it. So, also considering like playing around like Pebble watch face and app programming, which seems like kind of fun as well. So eventually I'll get around to that probably. Or it'll be like my Chromebook where I still have the little, the little Chromebook do-hicky here for hacking Chromebooks
Starting point is 01:40:09 sitting on my desk and I still have Chromebooks somewhere in that drawer, I think it's in that drawer, that I've not messed around with so, you know, I spent like, you know, I bought some Chromebooks a few years back and just never got around to messing with them. That happens sometimes, right?
Starting point is 01:40:27 Pretty much any YouTube is going to have like a bunch of fucking random little projects they just never get around to. I am, I am such, a YouTuber. Yeah, yeah. It's a problem. It really,
Starting point is 01:40:42 it really is a problem, but I'll get to it at some point. Probably. Speaking of getting to it at some point, video games, video games, video games. We recently had the whole
Starting point is 01:40:56 Summer Games Fest, the whole Summer Games Fest week, which is the replacement for E3 of the past. Jeff, Jeff didn't lie. Jeff didn't lie I was so disappointed in state of play that I thought Jeff was actually
Starting point is 01:41:12 bullshitting because Jeff was like this is the biggest this is the biggest summer games first ever oh my god guys there's so many amazing games here Jeff said that last year and we got fucking high guard and other times we got Concord so I don't I don't trust Mr Jeff Keely anymore
Starting point is 01:41:27 but this year he rebuilt the trust because while state of play itself was garbage summer games fest we had some big titles. Like, um, FF7 Part 3. And even if you don't like the remake stuff, it's still part 3. So it's finally done now. What are the
Starting point is 01:41:44 Games Fest games were, though? Most of my list right now, most of my head is stuck with fucking Nintendo Direct. Oh, right, there was um, Stellar Blade, uh, Blood Rhone. Yes, yes, yes, that one. Uh, Summer Games Fest 2026
Starting point is 01:42:00 Games list, Polygon. Polygon. No. Guys. I want Summer Games Fest Games list. Specifically, games list. There was a fucking good article I saw the other day. Where'd it go? Oh, right, the Alien Isolation 2, which was fucking sick.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Um... Okay, here we go. Eurogamer. Oh my god, why are you so fucking useless? Jesus. Right, yeah, they started the event with Resident Evil Code Veronica. Right, right. It was just like, hey guys, here's a Resident Evil game. Enjoy!
Starting point is 01:42:54 What? Huh? Jeff? Jeff, what are we doing here? What are we doing? Then you're fucking Cuphead 2. You had Guild Wars 3, Wolf Among Us 2. I don't really care about that, but even so.
Starting point is 01:43:05 So, Stella Blade Blood Rain already mentioned. And I think it is kind of crazy how Sony has lost basically all of the interest from, like, basically, all of the interest from the Japanese developers, right? Like, state of play, their, like, big thing was God of War Le Fay. And sure, whatever. If you, like, got a war, hey, you got a war. They also fucking runescape dragon wilds, the like survival runescape game for anyone who... I like runescape. I don't give a shit about Dragon Wilds.
Starting point is 01:43:48 No one gives you about Dragon Wilds. But then like all of the like big games, all like the big JRPs and just big games in general. We're at Summer Games Fest. Then we had fucking persona and persona. We had persona 4 revival and persona 6 both at Xbox. And I know that like Xbox did. like persona 3, right? Like that they had the persona 3 reveal. That makes sense, right? But it is fucking crazy that Xbox is getting massive JRP announcement before Sony.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Then, holy fuck, you had, you had Nintendo Man. Like, oh, right, you also had Strangelo than Heaven at our Summer Games Fest as well, which is the, the Yakuza prequel. which I'm Oh we already had some like like Strange and Heaven stuff earlier but we got the announcement of our Tupac being in the game sure okay Tupac we have Snoop Dog already
Starting point is 01:44:53 fuck it might as well have Tupac why the hell not just who who cares at this point your might as fucking well but then fucking Nintendo you had Kingdom Hearts 4 why at Nintendo Direct was Kingdom Hearts 4?
Starting point is 01:45:14 We'd seen nothing on KH4 for... When was... you know, Kingdom Hearts 4 original... When was the original trailer, the one with Streletsia? Four years ago. Four years ago we had the original trailer. And then nothing. We'd like, I think there was like screenshots. And then there was a Namora,
Starting point is 01:45:48 KH4 art. There was a bit of KH4 art of young Zayonaut. This fella here. Young Zayanaut, which is different from Terranaut, even though they look very similar. Um, yeah. Um, I, I, I, I wasn't expecting any.
Starting point is 01:46:21 right. You'd king, then you, but then we actually got something. Then you also had the like Kingdom Hearts collection. Then, um, there was some other, there was another one there. I think was there, was there? Oh, Final Fantasy, um, Brave X-Vius. No, sorry, resonant. The, um, reimagining a Brave X-Vus. Then in JP, Nintendo Direct, they had not a ton, but they had some more gameplay of, uh, Trails in the Sky the Second. And also, Atilia Curia, the sequel of Atilia Umia, the next game in the Attilia franchise, if you've never played Atilia, uh, don't because it's, it's too much. Um, how, let's, what number are we at now? What number are we at for the Atilia series? Uh, so Yumia is Atilia 26. So, yeah, I guess, I guess Caria will be 27. And that's the main series. That's not including side series stuff. Um, um, um, which is not as important. But to be fair with Atilia,
Starting point is 01:47:27 it's not 26 games in the continuous franchise. It's 26 games in like three or four game arcs. And they're entirely unrelated. It's like different worlds, basically. Sometimes there are like, sometimes really popular characters have like a cameo. But usually it's like entirely separate things. So you can jump in.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Usually you can jump in. Usually, you can jump in really any game if you want to. Just find one of the characters you think looks cute and play that one. But recommended if you're going to play one of them, jump in at the start of an arc, and then you're good to go. I jumped in with... What did I jump in with? Theris.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Yeah, I jumped in with Ferris. Which I think the start of that series was Sophie. Sophie won. Yeah. A lot of people jumped in with Riser recently, though. or if you want to go back, you can play like Esker and Logie, things like that,
Starting point is 01:48:32 back on the PS3. Or pretty much all the, most of the game, most of the games at this point are on Steam. If they're not, you can just, you can acquire them through other means. Why,
Starting point is 01:48:43 I was talking about Atilia? I don't know. Oh, right. Nintendo. Nintendo, basically is now, Nintendo was basically taken back over the title they had
Starting point is 01:48:53 during like the Ness and the SNES period. Right? Like, back on the Ness, back on the SNS, that's when the JRPs were, like, that's where they were, because it was, at that point, it was the Japanese console. You didn't have Sony during the Ness, so if you're a Japanese company, you were releasing on Ness and then on the SNS. But when the PlayStation came along, and like Final Fantasy 7, right, like Final Fantasy 7, that was a PlayStation 1 game, then 8 and 9, they were PlayStation 1 games, then Final Fantasy 10 was on the PS2, and then Final Fantasy 13, that was on the Xbox 360 as well. on like 10 DVDs, but it was also on primarily, initially, the PS3. And for a long time, Final Fantasy had been associated with PlayStation and Sony. And I think what's changed is Sony's fucking around with, oh, right,
Starting point is 01:49:44 they also, the fucking Nintendo also had Duskbloods, the new From Software game, which I don't care about, because it's focused on like multiplayer co-op stuff. I don't care about that in Software games. So for me, it's, I haven't played Night Rain either. It's just not my, not my jam. Maybe I'll play it at some point. Who knows? Anyway, I think what's happened with Sony is Sony has been pushing really hard for either exclusives or timed exclusives.
Starting point is 01:50:08 And this is really killing any hype for a lot of these games. Some of them come out of the other side really well, again, like Stella Blade. But these are the exception, not the norm. Usually what happens is the game releases on PlayStation a year, year and a half later, it comes out on PC, then anyone who was going to play it, probably already played it on PC, on PS5, and if they didn't, they probably just lost interest and played other games. Like, FF16, right? It did relatively well on PS5. It came to PC and kind of did middling sales, because anyone who, like, a lot of people just moved on, right?
Starting point is 01:50:49 And a lot of people just, they knew everything that happened in the game. And that's the other thing, right? If you've got to wait a year, year and a half, you know the spoilers, you know the story in most cases, unless you're being like really careful and you might just realize you don't actually vibe with the game, whereas you might have bought the game. Maybe you would have enjoyed it. Maybe you would have enjoyed the story, but you don't enjoy it without the context of the buildup to get there. So knowing how a plot progresses, maybe that takes away a lot of it. And a lot of these companies, I think, are realizing like, this is a problem. and we can't do this. So Kingdom Hearts 4, it's releasing simultaneously multi-platform on everything, including PlayStation. So it's going to be on the Switch 2. It's going to be on the Xbox.
Starting point is 01:51:34 It's going to be on the Xbox. It's going to be on PC. It's going to be on... I think it's all of it, actually. I think it's going to be on Xbox. But it's going to be across all the things. I think this is a really... like a much healthier state for these games to be in.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Release on PC. release on PlayStation, release on Xbox. If you release on everything, if you have the money to do the porting, get it on everything, and have people enjoying the game. Don't let, like, Sony was really good at offering a big bag to make this happen.
Starting point is 01:52:07 I think a lot of these big studios are hard to realize, like, the bag wasn't worth it. The bag is not as big as what would have happened if they just released the game and had people buy it like they normally would.
Starting point is 01:52:18 So, also I think Sony is just really, I think Sony, just doesn't really care about the Japanese market anymore, which is fucking strange to say, because again, PlayStation 1, PlayStation 2, these were the JRP machines. This was the home of, for a long time, this was the home of Final Fantasy. This was the home of Dragon Quest after it moved, again, from the Nintendo stuff. Again, I think Sony's dropped the ball for a long time. And, hey, I'm glad Nintendo's there to pick it up. Especially, I'm glad that Nintendo, the way, I'm glad Nintendo has really strong first-party games
Starting point is 01:53:01 so they don't need to care about locking down their third-party developers. Nintendo, does that say Sony or Nintendo? Nintendo has a really strong first-party games, so don't need to lock down their third-party developers. Sony, what, like, what does Sony have, right? Sony has God of War. Cool, okay? They've got Horizon, whatever the fuck it's called,
Starting point is 01:53:26 which is, I still feel like the Horizon series is a Sciop. never met a single person that's ever played Horizon, but sure they have Horizon. They have Grand Turismo. Uh, what is, what, what, what, what, Sony first party games. What do they have? Obviously, you have like one-off titles like, um, Astrobot. Um, oh, right, they had, uh, Ghost of Shushima. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Last of Us, which is done now. Uncharted, which is dead. Like, like,
Starting point is 01:54:12 they don't really, they don't really have anything that's like super, they have the new Marvel game, I guess, which is an out, maybe it's good. Um, I guess they still have Kojima.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I guess. Because like, because Death Stranding 2 on the beach had like a delay before released on PC. I wonder, you know what? I wonder if Kojima is going to stick with Sony. because if they lose Kajima
Starting point is 01:54:45 I don't think they have any Japanese devs left who are like Sony first I can't think of any at least like Sony man Sony it's sad because I had a PS2 I love the PS2 but I think you can't live in the past
Starting point is 01:55:04 I loved this console three generations ago therefore I'm going to keep supporting like what the console is doing now what the company is doing now it is what it is it is what it is Anyway We're coming up on the two hour mark
Starting point is 01:55:25 I actually wasn't planning to go two hours today I do have still a bit of a cold And my voice is This is gonna be a problem for tomorrow Because I'll stream tomorrow I might be doing more of these solo episodes Coming up We'll see how they go
Starting point is 01:55:38 I kind of want to do them in this structure Where I'm sort of like doing the Like news things that I think are interesting And like general topics That I think are interesting That I don't think really fit into the main channel So if this is something you vibe with if this is something you enjoy,
Starting point is 01:55:52 I guess stick around. We're going to do some guest ones as well. Don't get me wrong. But I don't know. I might keep doing this for a bit and see how it goes, maybe a couple of months and then maybe bring guests more back on. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I'm not entirely sure. I kind of just wing the podcast. The podcast is like, I have like topics written down and that's pretty much as far as we go with the planning. So, hey. Anyway, on the gaming channel, I am playing through Like a Dragon right now and Shenmu 3, so pop around for that, if that is your vibe.
Starting point is 01:56:24 On the main channel, there will be videos of Linux variety. Yeah. If you're watching the video version of this, you find the audio podcast and every podcast platform you can think of. Search Tech Over T, and if you want to find the video version, it is on YouTube at Tech Over T. So I'm going to head out. I did slightly modify the overlay in case you didn't realize, just so we have the...
Starting point is 01:56:47 It actually has been so long. some of you don't even fucking realize what the overlay even look like I don't even know I'm bothering I now don't have
Starting point is 01:56:52 like gaps around it also remove the overlay on this I just felt like the overlay didn't really make any sense here any longer
Starting point is 01:56:58 anyway um yeah so I'm gonna head out I'm gonna go make some dinner uh probably edit some stuff and uh yeah
Starting point is 01:57:06 so I'll got a bit back I will see you guys next time and hopefully my voice is still fine by tomorrow um yeah so I am
Starting point is 01:57:16 out Thank you.

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