Tech Over Tea - Chris Titus Tech EXPOSED!!! | CTT

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did that start? Yes, it did. Good morning, good day, and good evening. Welcome to episode 158 of Tech of a T. Today, we have a new guest. Probably you know him, probably all of you know him much more than I do. Welcome to the show, Chris Titus Tech. How's it going? It's going good, Brody. Thanks for having me on, man. Look forward to chatting with you. I got a lot of stuff to actually feed you this time too. So much to talk about. It's been a while since I actually talked to another fellow creator on YouTube. When was...
Starting point is 00:00:34 I did scroll back through your channel because I like to do that whenever I have a YouTuber on. I know you had Lundukon ages ago. Oh my God, yeah. He just stopped in and that was like a year after the COVID debacle. Yeah. And oh my god yeah yeah he just stopped in and that was like in the like a year after like the covid debacle yeah and oh my gosh yeah that was that was cool though it's good having him on and that was you know i've only done a couple interviews one duke was the only one i've ever done in person and that's been it and used to have actually guessed a lot of places like i've gone to a lot of other channels and had me on but after i guess 100 200k subs i haven't really done this that's because you're
Starting point is 00:01:11 scary you have too many subs yes i mean i don't know it's been like a year or two and then i saw i was watching one of your channels and someone that watches your channel commented it was like hey you guys should get i was like well let's do it yeah i've been so like many people in you know tech in really any field where there's like people who are much better than them for a very long time after this thing called imposter syndrome uh that's always fun now i'm like you know what? Screw it. Just send the message. Everybody runs into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we've been following each other on Twitter since, I don't know, a very long time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Probably I had like a couple of K subs. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think I got you and followed you back when you had like five or six K subs when I first started following you. And then since then, you know, i still keep you in my feed so anytime i got like my rss feed up you're in there for my linux folks yeah i think i found what's brooding doing i think i found your channel because you're one of the first like i think i was watching your stuff probably when i first started using linux um there's like a couple of channels where i was watching your stuff probably when I first started using Linux. There's a couple of channels where I was watching back then. There was you.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I think Lunduk's Linux sucks video might have been one of the first videos. I don't remember what year it was. That was one of the first Linux videos I ever saw. I saw some stuff from DT and Luke Smith back when he actually made Linux videos. What's Luke doing now? I mean, I remember he popped up in my feed like years ago, but I haven't seen anything from Luke lately. Now he's shilling Monero.
Starting point is 00:02:59 He's going to crypto conferences and shilling Monero. So, you know, hey, it is what it is. No worries. I stay the hell away from crypto these days. I'm like, oh, geez. Yeah, I made my money when the COVID crash happened. And I'm like, you know what? We are not touching this right now. I don't know where things are going.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I made a bunch of, i think i made like three or four crypto videos on my channel back in 2020 probably around when you do it all would have been like around when like library was getting a lot of attention yeah yeah yeah and all of that and i was like one of the initial founders of library and they sent me like they were supposed to send they actually sent me a thumb drive with keys on it yeah i got one as well yeah like 100k lbr i never was able to redeem it though like like it was such a scam like i was like what the hell it's it the time lock happened i was like okay let me let me redeem this then i was like oh the chain isn't public it is just totally locked out so they gave fake
Starting point is 00:04:06 coins to everybody they were supposed to build like a gooey tool or something to handle it i i don't know whatever happened to it because they were selling those as well um oh geez yeah yeah i think the sec will get them because i think they were selling to bitrix on the back end and then that that was they were funding basically all of bitrix and that's where you cashed out to usd and uh that whole thing man oh goodness yeah but i'm pretty sure they're they're they're done so i know what happened i do follow um some of the people from library like some of the people who work there uh i think there's they're coming to a ruling now or something uh where i think they've now accepted that they
Starting point is 00:04:51 actually are a security uh-huh yeah i i'm not 100 sure on the details i'm not going to get into that but i'm pretty sure that's where we're at now i know they were talking about like how other projects are now probably going to be marked as securities as well so like you know crabs in a bucket drag everyone down yes i'm pretty sure that's what's happening in this space and i get it i mean if you're a central entity that hands out digital coins and redeem that for cash well yeah you're a security at that point for the most part so i mean we'll see what happens with them but yeah oh what a mess yeah my my only interest in the crypto space at this point is uh like watching our coffeezilla videos just finding out what's happening it seems like every time something crazy happens in that space it's all right it's something that happened in like banking or gold
Starting point is 00:05:43 like 200 years ago and we already outlawed it yeah it's like a different scam just with a new face and that's it it's just like oh man yeah anyway before we get too deep into that um for anyone who may not know who you are possibly uh give yourself a brief introduction yeah i'm chris titus tech uh i was an it professional for 20 years before coming to youtube and i just started making youtube videos because i was like hey there's not a lot of good tutorial content for the stuff i wanted to make which was windows server utilities back then and uh there's a reason why nobody wanted to watch those videos so i made a couple of those videos and then I ended up switching to Linux on a YouTube comment.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And then I just was like, oh, hey, Linux, this is this is cool, actually. And it reignited my passion for computing. just loved just tinkering around installing, reinstalling, just doing anything in it because there's just so many rabbit holes to go down that I just, I fell in love with it. And that's why I made so much, uh, as far as Linux videos go, especially back when I first started my channel. And then, uh, man, since then I've just kind of taken that. And, uh, I still do a lot stuff as far as like Windows Toolbox and some other things that have been covered by some of the major outlets out there now. And that's gotten a lot of traction. I've been trying to put in more development time to build that out because there's a huge amount of people now using it. I'm like, OK, let me let me let me fix that up.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But at the same time, trying to keep up with YouTube, I've been taking a little bit of a break. I just never, I should have made the YouTube video like I'm quitting and then like a serious face. But I was just like, ah, kind of done with it. So I just stopped uploading
Starting point is 00:07:37 and then I was like, okay, so the last couple of weeks I've kind of just gone dark. That's like the first I've ever really said anything of it. I'd never really cashed in on the views on the exit you're it wouldn't even be like out of the ordinary for like the character of your channel to do a like a thumbnail like that the uh thumbnail that comes to mind is um
Starting point is 00:07:59 my does jitsi have a chat i think it does um does it where where is it i'm going to send you a link to one of your own video how do i send a private message either way yeah here we go chat here we go this this video nice okay let's see oh redhead is the devil. So the original one was Ubuntu was the devil. And that was my second video to go viral. And that video I've actually privated since because it was a 16 minute rant of how Ubuntu's Satan incarnate. But I mean, it was kind of like tugging cheek. Some people took it yeah literal but there was
Starting point is 00:08:46 you know probably you know four or five good points of bad things ubuntu's done in the past yeah and uh i i privated the video because one it was it took me a long time to get to the point and i watched re-watched it back when it like started the algorithm took it again like last year i think it was and started putting it out there i was like oh my god this is so cringe i've been just gonna private it it had i think 80 800 or 900 000 views when i privated the video and i was like oh geez all right we're gonna take that down and i had like relationship with some some other folks like i on the kubuntu team and some other folks and i was like okay i'm gonna just take that down because it's just a little bit too cringe not that i have softened
Starting point is 00:09:31 my stance too much on ubuntu and canonical um because i actually just got flack and i actually wanted to ask you a question on this brody yes was it clickbait uh-huh? It's like you have to do clickbait, but you have to do good clickbait. I think it's the gist of it in the YouTuber land. Yeah, I do have my thoughts on this, but I want to see where you're going with this. So I made a video today because I've been live streaming and I've just been doing clips on like my secondary channel,
Starting point is 00:10:02 Titus Tech Talk. And I made a video today called Ubuntu Bans Flatpak. Uh-huh. And you, have you heard of this? Yeah. The news of this? I think my video on this just went out today, actually. Oh, you just did a video on it?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I don't remember when I upload stuff. Yeah, yeah, I upload my video today. Okay, sweet. Well, I have a video out that came out today as well. That was the title. And the gist of it was Ubuntu went and removed it from any pre-installed distro. And said, hey, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xbbuntu all of them can't bundle flatpak with it so they
Starting point is 00:10:48 effectively banned it from the install but they also going forward on the software store aren't allowing flatpak on it so i said well that sounds like a ban to me so that's the title of the video given the context your thoughts i not even intentionally talking shit about your video i actually did talk shit about it because joey snedden in omg ubuntu's uh in the omg ubuntu article used exactly that line uh-huh so also apparently throw shit at you let's hear it come on give it to me, man. It's okay. You're not going to piss me off. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I got thick skin. I've been on YouTube for four and a half years. I've heard all kinds of shit. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure your comments are a fun place, especially doing a mix of Windows and Linux stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a blast. I tend to save the hyper clickbaitbait for my thumbnails which annoys people enough
Starting point is 00:11:47 like my thumbnail for that one is embrace snaps or face my wrath uh i like it i like it i like that better that's nice uh it's more tasteful than me that's for sure i i tend to i don't know i when it when it's clickbait, I think a lot of people sort of misunderstand clickbait. There is being straight up lied to and there's encouraging you to click. Like there is a... Yeah, if you put like a very attractive female on the cover
Starting point is 00:12:21 when you have a 98% audience you know your click freight your your ctr is going to be going through the roof and you're like all right sweet but then if you don't deliver on that image that is clickbait because it's complete lie yeah uh another good example is there was a zd net article that got attention from the asahi linux devs um yeah have you heard of the project? Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. M2, basically, or M1, M2, Linux. They have an article titled
Starting point is 00:12:52 Linux 6.2, the first mainstream Linux kernel for Apple M1 chips arrives. Now, the important part of that is the mainstream Linux kernel. The 6.2 kernel does not have the keyboard or the trackpad drivers upstreamed this is not even remotely close to a mainstream kernel i think when it's like that it's a flat out lie when it's and i'm not a big fan of doing that when it's like you know sort of
Starting point is 00:13:21 when it's a ban like it's kind of like bending what's happening. It's not... Right. It's not like... An experienced user can go and install it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not necessarily banned. Because it's banned from the...
Starting point is 00:13:34 But in that respect, an experienced user is not going to be installing Ubuntu. It's fair to say that it's banned from the defaults of the flavors. That is a... I think because of that, it's kind of like a it's a it's still clickbaity in a way but it's not so far that i would personally have an issue with it um okay yeah i mean i was going back and forth with uh somebody in the comments uh
Starting point is 00:14:01 which uh i think it was don mckinnis you probably know don he's probably been around i bet he's a patreon he's i remember don and i can't hide his comments or anything i'm never gonna if he watches this video don i get it man and he he went on like this huge rant i read all of it by the way in the comment section and i didn't hide the comment i was like let's i'll just leave it there chill and i responded to him and i was like i agree with my title i stand on it because at the end of the day if nobody clicks on your videos what the hell are you doing making videos yeah yeah yeah and if you do hey uh ubuntu now is forcing i'm already over like five words and i've lost 50 of the population and that's just the stark reality of youtube in my opinion now these long podcasts you could do pretty much any
Starting point is 00:14:54 title and you can have long in-depth conversations because your attention span of your your viewers are much longer i just put chris titus Tech in the title and then people click. Yeah. You just put Chris Titus Tech exposed. There you go. I'll write the title for you, man. Get you tons of clicks. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But yeah, man. I mean, that's just kind of the nature of the beast. It's's always this line I straddle. And it's always a gray area for me. There obviously has to be some truth to it. And I always refer back to a Veritasium video of good clickbait. And that's usually my guiding like North Star when doing a title and a thumbnail, it has to be clickable. And sometimes, um, it's difficult to establish those realms where it's like, ah, I get that's going to piss people off. But at the same time, that's kind of the point.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Because if you, the worst video you can make, I always tell people this, the worst video you can make is one where nobody feels anything that video will do horrible because no one likes the video nobody dislikes the video typically the videos people like the most are also the videos people dislike the most and that's like that that line yeah no i i put out a video recently called uh linux's most degenerate terminal application um that's a video that recently did pretty well it's a
Starting point is 00:16:33 what was it i gotta know now called uh shell mummy every time you run a command it'd be like you're a you're a good you're a good boy. Like, if a command fails, you're like, oh, it's okay, next time we'll be better. And I started the video. I'm not going to install that tonight. I changed it before the video started to Discord Kitten just to annoy as many people as possible. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah, I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's great's great that was very intriguing so i get it i like throwing out random videos like that just from time to time because you know it's one thing to be like i'm just gonna do serious videos but i like to just throw in some fun ones there even if it might just before there was a dog barking, now the alarm next door is going off. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I like to throw out videos that are just fun, that might be kind of experimental, because those are the ones where it's like, this is either going to do really well, or no one's going to care. Yeah, I think that's the thing. I usually, if I feel a little bit uneasy about the video and i have to watch it a couple times those are the videos that i always try and put out yeah we're ones where i'm
Starting point is 00:17:53 kind of on the line if i if i make a video and i'm like yeah that's good and people are going to get value out of that sure sure i know those videos aren't going to do very well and usually that's just because of nature of it it was a very safe video pretty straightforward i'm just usually doing a tutorial in those videos yeah and that's it but the problem with just doing those videos is you don't you're not able to instill much of your personality have a little bit more fun with it and kind of explore some of these other things things and that's that's always kind of difficult for me I kind of waffled a lot in especially in my early days because I struggled hell even even today I still struggle with that where I'm like okay I want to make a good video and for a while there I was just churning out tutorial videos with
Starting point is 00:18:42 me smiling on almost every thumbnail and then finally I read a comment and someone was like dude you got to do something different with your thumbnails you just smiling in the thumbnail I I saw your thumbnails for a lot of walls like wow it's the same face but it's not the same picture I was like a robot for a little bit there, man. Just like churning it out for the thing, because I've this this past week is the first week I've never made a video on YouTube in four and a half years since I started. Oh, wow. And that that is one of the things where I'm like, OK, I've got to take a little bit of a break and just see what happens in the YouTube realm. And then YouTube throws you a curve ball. Like I'm 11 days ago is when my last publish.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I, my views have never been higher. I don't get it. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah. Why, why did I wait four and a half years to just like not upload?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah. And then it just, the last several videos I made just did really well and i was like okay and they've carried through and even improved the channel and i was like okay well maybe i just don't need to make three videos every single week and i can just take some breaks and um what are your thoughts on streaming because i know you stream a little bit on twitch yeah and i don't know about youtube uh i used to do streams on the main channel um the last thing i did was an lfs series uh which drove me insane um but my oh my god my viewers fucking loved i don't understand it like half the stream was just a loading bar as something compiles and they're
Starting point is 00:20:26 like this is great content like what are you talking this is awful maybe it's because i was suffering the entire time um but since then i i don't really take i don't take streaming that seriously on the because i've got a gaming channel i just play things every so often because i i should probably take it more seriously but i'm like you know what i just want to play these games anyway um the only channels i really take seriously are the main channel and the podcast uh yeah i do upload shorts on the gaming channel because you know shorts do well on all that fun stuff but it's not like a yeah it's not a major focus i i do know a lot of people find streaming to be really beneficial and if you build up an audience streaming it is better monetarily um but i don't yeah doing what i normally do i don't know
Starting point is 00:21:21 how i would really translate in that into a stream form. I'd have to do something different, but in some way offering some level of value. The content I found did do fairly well in the stream form because I don't like doing distro reviews, but doing like a three-hour distro showcase in the form of a stream, I feel like that works a little bit better in that regard and it's yeah i can see that it's fun to kind of try out like you know random distros like you know i did a gen 2 series uh i i'd be interested in doing like bedrock linux and things like that
Starting point is 00:21:58 or you know try out something weird like you know it's still red star in an os in a vm or something yeah oh man that's cool yeah i was just thinking about that because it's something i'm getting into and i was thinking actually transitioning from youtube main to just streaming four or five days a week and that's what i'm gonna do for all of march basically just to see. And instead of pushing stuff from my main YouTube channel and telling people about it over there, I just kind of want to see what would happen if I just did it without any outside influence and seeing how, if I can actually build it organically
Starting point is 00:22:35 or more organically, I should say. Maybe put in ticklers for community posts, maybe even a tweet, but that's about the gist of it. I think it's fun like the thing i love about it the most is i can focus on like a more long-term project and start building out stuff like building out a new desktop which i'm i just switched over to sway by the way thanks for letting me know about wayland i was i was one of those people that was all XORG all the time. Wayland's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And then this past couple, like this past month, I'm like a firm believer. And your video kind of just like opened the door for me. But really what sold me was when I started diving into the Steam Deck. And I was like, why is this device so effing good? And I looked at it and I was like, what this device so effing good and i looked at it and i was like what the hell okay it's using whalen and then like game scope and it's an immutable arch and i started just diving in more and more and i was like i hate everything about this distro on how it's constructed but it's done so damn well that everything just works and is cohesive.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And I know I can do a better job than this. And that was what my final conclusion was. And I was like, okay, first off X org trash bin, bam. And then I was like, all right, let's, let's do this Wayland thing. And I just started installing every single window manager, everything from, you know, WL Randar and then figuring out all the different Wayland tools and just going down that whole rabbit hole this whole past month. And that's basically what I've been streaming. It's just me basically tearing down my entire main production rig,
Starting point is 00:24:15 rebuilding it, and then doing it over and over and over again on stream. I've done it like five times this past week. I think what really helped wayland like i kind of just a lot of the open source space is people just having time to work on things during covid like that's a big part of it because i think it is fair to say back in like 2019 2020 wayland was very very far from ready like back, you couldn't even capture the desktop with OBS. Yep. Now, you can do that. Now, all of, like, Global Hotkeys just got merged a couple months ago.
Starting point is 00:24:52 That's coming to KDE, I think, in the next version. Not there for WL Roots yet. And a bunch of these other little things where I've been, like, I've sort of been the one person out here sort of championing these issues with Waylon because no one else is talking about it. Yes. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I've been watching you, man. I've been watching you. And I'm like, oh, dude, this is awesome. But these things are now being addressed and it's great. Yeah. Yeah. And I want to do a video on that. But it's like I have to make it more readily available for folks.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Because I think there's a misconception that Linux people are tech-savvy. I think there's a good bit. I think a lot more Linux people are tech-savvy than Windows and Mac counterpart. But, I mean, on its head, you're still going to have like like 60 70 percent of the user base that's not really gonna be most people aren't developers right yeah so i mean yeah it's it's one of those things where i'm like okay i gotta make this more cohesive
Starting point is 00:25:59 and make like an install script for folks and really drill down those tools. So it's just like, here's all the tools. Here's everything to convert to it. Here's the window manager. Here's all the setup and then just go. And that's one project I'm working on pretty hard on the stream to get to a point where I'm like, okay, I know enough about all of this. Let's pick the best of everything and then make a beautiful wonderful wayland based desktop which i've pretty much settled it's going to be sway i've i've i've moved from
Starting point is 00:26:32 sway is right now the best option by far yeah yeah and i've been messing around with it and i'm like man i love this and it's getting close I think this week's going to be the week that I really drill down and find my final configuration for it. Hyperland has been cool. I rocked that since I made that video like a month ago. Yeah, I've been sort of having occasional back and forth with the Hyperland dev every so often. He was in my Discord for a while,
Starting point is 00:27:09 constantly shilling the project and eventually did a cut like a bit of coverage of it but the only reason i would advise against hyperland right now is it's very very much in really active development like things are changing like multiple times a day i got a good one for you okay to to reinforce that point for anybody watching this uh hyperland uh inversion i think it was 21 they misspelled the comp file so you go to your dot config hyper and they misspelled the comp file so it was hyperland uh and it was like two d's on the end and then people in chat were yelling at me like you misspelled the comp file i'm like no this version they screwed it up and it's now this and then in 22 i think they fixed it now it's back to hyper land and i was like okay but it's it's definitely still really active development where i would
Starting point is 00:28:03 never recommend someone that's not want to really tinker with the computer to ever try it the most annoying thing i had is there was a change that was made but they didn't update the documentation yet so they changed a variable name or deleted a variable or something and there was a function that i just couldn't do luckily there was people that knew a workaround. I think it was for dragging windows with your mouse or something. They changed a variable. And yeah, you had to work around it with a click event or something.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It was really dumb. But I think Hyperland... As much as I think Hyperland is not ready now, I think if the developer keeps up this work, it will get to a point where Hyperland might legitimately be a really good Wayland experience that I could recommend to people. As it stands now, I would say Sway. Yeah. And that's kind of what I settled on.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like I said, I rocked Hyperland for a full month, and I loved the kind of what I settled on like I said I rocked Hyperland for a full month and I loved the feel of it I loved the it was just flashy look I'm just to be honest with you it's just really flashy and I liked it and it felt good and then I moved to Sway and Sway is more traditional yeah and not not nearly the effects and in some of the flash you lose a little bit of that but it works absolutely so i get it my only issue with sway is it's it's i3 so it's a manual tyler and i'm just i've got an auto tyler script that sort of deals with it and makes it, you know, not annoy me. But I just don't like manual tylers anymore. I know they have their audience and you can make really crazy layouts. But for the average person who wants to try out a tyler, a dynamic tyler is just easier.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yep, 100%. But I don't use too many. Usually it's just one or two and i i'm a big proponent of multiple desks you know i'm on multiple workspaces and uh i've been using uh for sway i've been using workspaces i think it's called it's a cargo install on debian which i've moved back to debian for march because arch made me angry well it was a it was a wayland update and it ended up breaking my brave browser and then i had to like switch to flat pack to fix it and i was just like oh man or i could have i could revert it back to an earlier backup and i was like
Starting point is 00:30:38 or i could just be on debian and this would have never happened all right i'm gonna blow my system up again anyway um yeah you're going somewhere with that oh yeah yeah uh so the workspaces is a really cool it's like cargo install workspaces and it adds icons for all your programs so you know how it says one two three up at the top of your title bar for Sway. It automatically detects your program. And then if it's a program you don't know, you can add like a custom icon for it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And then it just shows the little icons next to the number. So if you have three things open in Workspace ONE, it'll show three icons like Vim, GitHub, and then, you know, let's say let's say brave browser does sound really cool yeah man check that out and that is life-changing and they have a couple different implementations i haven't found the best way to do it quite yet i was looking at my comp file and i was like okay on the comp file i i tried to do it through that oh wait do you mean work style not workspaces what's that do you mean work style or is this a different one yeah work style okay yeah okay i couldn't
Starting point is 00:31:51 find it trying to find workspaces okay yeah yeah work style that's it and it's a cargo install work style and then it just puts it in there and you can install it on any distro so i was thinking of that but there's two implementations of it one just auto launching it or manually launching it through your auto start or you could do a systemd service and i'm kind of thinking about switching from the auto start to do a systemd service because it's been a little finicky using the auto start yeah i'll have to try that out that does so i i'm very much a proponent of workspaces as well i i have maybe two three windows on each space at most um like usually the most i ever have on something is when i'm streaming there'll be like obs uh i don't know like a chat and maybe something else that's as
Starting point is 00:32:43 far as i'll go but you know i sometimes forget which number certain things are on. And that, yeah. So this might be super, super compelling. It's pretty, pretty, I just discovered it today. And I've been messing around with it. And it's magical. I absolutely love it. I'm like, hell yeah, this is going into my desktop.
Starting point is 00:33:06 So I'm just working on building all that out. And once I get that, it's, I'm looking at my desktop right now. I'm like, Oh, it's gorgeous. I just gotta,
Starting point is 00:33:14 I just gotta fine tune it. You know, I think it's like the inevitable Linux journey is like, you never get the perfect desktop, but it feels like you're so close it, but in this time, i think it's different i think yeah i think i did find the perfect setup so anyways yeah that's that's my quest to find it i've been streaming just a ton on twitch just trying to do it so everyone's just laughing at me
Starting point is 00:33:38 uh blow up my system like did you format the wrong drive this time because i got like six drives in there and i'm like oh no no i think i got it i think it's okay this time but yeah that's been a blast besides what we've mentioned do you have any like issues using sway anything that still feels a bit rough around the edges so you're asking the wrong person because i went from river to dwl to uh god what was what else was there i i i bounced around all that hyperland was actually the most polished out of all those and i was like oh wow that that's gonna annoy the river and dw dw yeah then i was like okay cool and then i went to then i've just moved the height a sway today i'm like man this is this is really good this is polished sway is amazing and then so i'm going from the other end like if i was like a veteran
Starting point is 00:34:41 like katie gnome user and then i come into sway i'll be like this is janky what the hell you gotta edit this file i mean but i'm coming from the other spectrum so to me sway is pretty damn good i don't know i mean we'll see how i'm feeling in like a week but so far i've been pretty happy okay i. I do obviously have Sway installed and I use Wayland every so often. I mainly am still using Awesome WM right now. I haven't made the full switch over. I should do like a full switch for like, you know, a month or so
Starting point is 00:35:19 and just see how it goes. Like I've done switches here and there like a week at a time, but I haven't made like a full switch i always like having that full back there just in case something goes wrong um so you still are rocking some awesome window management with xorg yeah i i my okay my main issue and the reason why i don't daily drive wayland is the global hotkey issue so you'll probably notice that if you open up obs and sway if you've got hotkeys like start recording and things like that they don't do
Starting point is 00:35:51 anything oh well i mean i was about to call you out and be like ah i can't believe you're using xorg but i control all my production with windows and Stream Deck. Oh, okay. That's fair. I mean. Okay. You would have never noticed. That would be the pot calling the kettle black. I'd be like, well, I don't use Xorg over here.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm sway whaling 100% on this machine. Yeah. But for most of my production, like when I have it, I have a stripped down version of windows with all the services stripped out with where it only has OBS. So I just booted up everything auto loads. It never does updates. It never does anything.
Starting point is 00:36:34 It just records my stuff. And then I, that's my stable version of windows basically that has, um, Elgato. I have a whole bunch of Elgato stuff that just doesn't work very well in Wayland. I mean, you can do Stream Deck. There's like Boatswain and Steam Deck.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I've dabbled with making a hardcore Linux production box, and I did it for about a year or two. But at the end of the day, there was a lot of accessories that I wanted to add to that production box that i was like this makes sense for me and uh putting in like a beacon sound mixer for controlling all the different levels for all my inputs right here on my desk was just so nice and i was like oh you know what i like this and i just wouldn't get that with linux and i was like okay
Starting point is 00:37:21 but it was mainly the accessories that kind of pushed me in that direction but I think one thing that might help with that is if these like Linux gaming devices do become more popular because we asked like you know capture cards now work way better than they did years ago on Linux I just I've got a um let's see if we can there we go i've got a evga xl1 light this thing's great highly recommend it um i used to have the ava media toblerone um yep i had that that's what i started with over here for anyone who doesn't know the ava media live gamer portable 2 plus 4k pass-through which sounds like you know i feel like you find on wish um i know. But it was great, man. I used the hell out of that. I recorded on that for, I think, almost a year and a half,
Starting point is 00:38:10 two years before moving. And I moved the Magewell from that. Mine, it was working fine. And then USB power just stopped. So that was fun. But yeah, replaced it with the EVGA. Worked great. Highly recommend it.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So if you ever run into more problems with the capture switch to a mage will pci card they're they're pricey they're like 500 600 bucks maybe even up to a thousand for the four inputs in but you get multiple inputs in and it does a phenomenal job. I even moved to arch for my production machine because I was on crazy pills that day. And I contacted him because their drivers didn't work on the rolling release kernel. And those guys modified the drivers and sent me new drivers to work on that kernel in less than 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I was blown away. i expected them to just be like arch linux no we don't support it yeah but they didn't so i made well cards yes they're pricey but their team is damn good i was shocked it's the best support i've ever gotten yeah then one of the i don't use them now yeah i use an elgato cam link pro because it's 320 bucks and they get four inputs in and the mage well one's a thousand dollars but it's really good what is that one yeah if you go with the cam link pro it's a great card oh oh it's okay but it's windows only yeah okay um i am i've got obviously got that epg and then for my the camera you're seeing, that's through a regular Cam Link, the Cam Link 4K. Works great.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Classic. No problem with it. I used to use the... Remember there was that period where a lot of the tech channels were talking about those cheap HDMI capture cards? Yeah. Did you do a video on that?
Starting point is 00:40:03 I know a bunch of people did them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a video on that i know a bunch of people did them yeah yeah i did i did uh i had a video where i reviewed like six of them and i bought every one of them yeah i mean there's such a waste of money just just shell out the extra money and buy something good when i when i bought my cam link i uh i noticed the color depth difference very quickly oh my gosh yeah yeah i i've i've had some of those cheap like 30 40 dollar camp uh capture cards they'll come in you plug it in and so it's like everything's red you're just like oh i i keep them around just because in australia we don't have this uh this thing that america has overnight shipping so sometimes i buy something and it takes a week
Starting point is 00:40:43 or two to get here so it's nice to have a backup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see that. Yeah. I have like a huge stack of cables. Yeah. I'm like obsessed with just having backups for everything just in case I need to like move or make like a mobile production rig, whatever. I can just do it.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, I have a box of cables. There are cables in there that I don't know why I have. They're like composite cables. I don't need composite cables for anything. What? Like there's a HDMI cable that I know is broken, but I just put it in the box. It's a later problem.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Oh, man. I think we all did that at one time i've gotten better on the broken cables i throw them away now yeah okay but i do have no less than 100 extra cables i have about 50 sitting in cable racks just sitting on the wall my wife comes in and like really hopefully that's not in your camera shot because you look like a massive cable hoarder i should do something with that to be honest like i got uh i could yeah my because i'm living uh with one of my mates right now uh and he's like you know what if you want to put things on the wall go ahead uh so i might have to do something like that it could be a good idea we'd get rid of a lot of the junk
Starting point is 00:42:01 i like it but it's not exactly aesthetically pleasing so there's that i guess yeah no that's functional though but i mean i can't tell you how many times i go over there i'm like i need this cable i'll be like okay htm is over here i got my usb c's i got micro usbs and i just can grab whatever i need and i have a whole thing of just different audio cables yep yep yep it's legit you're like for anyone out there if you want the one recommendation i can make if you're doing anything on youtube have backup cables because something's gonna go wrong just when you want to record a video yep it happens all the time i haven't had to touch it but i do have a backup xlr cable hopefully i don't have to use that
Starting point is 00:42:45 anytime soon but it's there just in case yeah i actually uh spent a ton of money and got oh man what is it it's like the nicest xlr cable you can buy yeah it's like the modx ones or whatever it is i can't remember it's not modx it's something that. I can't remember the name offhand. But it was like $80 for a 10-foot XLR cable. Yeah. It was just stupid expensive. And I was like, okay, this is really going to up my audio game.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And at the end of the day... It didn't do anything. No, don't waste your money on that stuff. Just go buy a monoprice cable. You'll be fine. Get yourself an Amazon basic cable. It'll do the, like, there are differences. And, you know, if you're in like a high interference area
Starting point is 00:43:32 and you're going over long distance, yes, for any of the audio nerds, there is obviously a difference between the cables. But if you're running, you know, one foot, it doesn't matter. And also the fact that it gets like overly compressed by YouTube and at the time I was going into like a really crappy mixer
Starting point is 00:43:50 and just destroyed my audio and I was like okay so there's always I've had an audio struggle ever since I started and I still have to this day I just replaced a whole bunch of my audio equipment to just consolidate to one little box.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's a pretty cheap box. It's only like $500 which is cheap in the audio land. I don't do a lot of the compression and a lot of other stuff. Now it's just a direct feed in. I don't have to do a bunch of filters. It sounds pretty good. It could sound probably better
Starting point is 00:44:21 but for now I'm like, okay. It's good. What are sound probably better, but for now, I'm like, okay. It's good. What are you using right now? Right now, I just switched to Presonus Studio 1824C. That's, I love
Starting point is 00:44:39 dumb gear. I loved it because you can plug the USB-C directly into the production machine and it would just feed all the inputs in there independently so then you can control each one from an independent source and it's great i really wanted to do an rme ufx plus they're about three thousand dollars for those bastards but yeah that'll break the bank but those guys are like what music producers and stuff do the same thing but just higher quality preamps and a whole bunch of other stuff and i was like i'll get one of those you just can't get them anymore they stopped manufacturing
Starting point is 00:45:15 them because i guess the chips aren't made anymore or something crazy and i was like okay well i guess this personas will be getting me by but it was a good upgrade from what I was using. What do you use as a mic right now? So I've gone back and forth for the best audio quality. I really like the Heil PR40 fed into a Soyuz preamp. A lot of people are like all about Cloudlifter. And I think the Soyuz preamp, she can't
Starting point is 00:45:45 get anymore because they're from russia but i got one before all of that and it's awesome so that's for the best sound quality but i kind of move around all the time now so i was like i can't have the dynamic mic up in my grill and i was like all I'm going to remove all that and just go to an overhead boom mic. So I just looked up kind of what they use in the movie industry. And I found this Sennheiser. I want to say it's a 914. I think it is. Let me look.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Something like that. There is a device that came up when I searched that. So presumably that's a thing. The E914? Maybe. Let's see. What was it? Uh, Sennheiser. High-grade cardioid condenser microphone for the money application
Starting point is 00:46:35 is outstanding. Sound property blah blah blah, don't care. Nah, nah, that wouldn't it. It was, uh, damn. Ah, I'll have to look it up and send it over to you boom it was it comes up yeah yeah yeah i'm like oh geez i know it's in here but the mke mkh 416 maybe no oh yeah that's it that's it mkh 416 ah okay cool here we go yeah that was that's what i'm using right now and i really like it it's a pretty solid mic this microphone is so
Starting point is 00:47:13 professional sounds good great review it sounds like a paid review it's a pretty damn good mic i will say that oh yeah for a thousand dollars i do hope it sounds good yeah the australian dollars yeah it is a thousand bucks so there is that yeah uh and the first time i hooked it up it sounded like crap so i've uh i've considered doing a shotgun mic before because i i do kind of like the look it gives with a shot, just having nothing in the frame. It's a difficult thing to do, but if you can do it, the one thing I would say is it still has to be within about a foot of your mouth. So what I do is I kind of just have this arm that comes up and the mic is about that far away.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So it's less than about a foot from my from my mouth it's just a hair out of frame the only thing i'd want to do before i try that this mic can kind of deal with it but this room is a little bit echoey um i've been meaning to to deal with that for ages i just haven't gotten around to it so i'll tell you this i've i've bought in so much sound dampening crap i bought those stupid black foam tiles you see all these dumb youtubers buy i was one of those dumb youtubers that bought them put them all up spent like hundreds of dollars on them and they just they barely did anything they did some stuff but it was not very good so at the end of the day i just built my own sound panels they were about
Starting point is 00:48:45 100 bucks i built a wooden frame got some rock wool put them in and then some really a dense fabric wrapped it stapled it down and then just put it on the wall with a little backlight and it's like dude that looks infinitely better than anything i can buy in the store and it does such a good job with the audio so sorry i didn't i didn't mean to rant all the time about all the different stuff but no no where i actually get to talk to somebody that no it's totally fine the more that you talk the less that i talk it's great uh this room isn't as bad as it could be because i have carpet which is great for this chair i've got um chair mats under it because otherwise i can't move it uh but this room has pretty thick carpets so it's not and you know
Starting point is 00:49:31 it's my bedroom as well like so there's there is stuff in it uh if it was just an office it would it would not be great i would have i would have had to do something about it ages ago I would have had to do something about it ages ago. Yeah. So, I mean, with you, though, you got the Shure SM7B, probably fed into a CloudRift. What are you using for your mixer? I've got a Yamaha MG10XU because I bought something that was way overkill.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. So I think that is a pretty, like, you could literally have a drum playing behind you and nobody would know the only but i i love that mic for that i know this mic's great um sometimes like you probably couldn't even hear the dog that was barking next door before no um couldn't hear any of it it was just your voice yeah this is great for dealing with this room but if i wanted to like if i wanted to try out something different like a shotgun mic like a like really anything else it's it's it's a bit bit of a problem yeah it just picks up too much yeah i get it uh for a while there for two years i was using the sm7b because
Starting point is 00:50:37 i had a window air conditioner that set two feet from me so anytime that kicked in you couldn't even hear yourself think but i could still record with that on right so a lot of my audio in the early days was kind of garbage you know i when i recorded i had a um a ducting air conditioning and the like the air would just blow directly onto the mic and you couldn't actually hear it in most cases when it when it did get bad i did have a solution though um i could hang a a towel just out of frame that would block the air there you go it's all those it's always those solutions that just kill man it's always the homemade stuff that it makes for the best like i can't think of anything that i've bought that's like oh my god that's that reminds me needed that i'm going to show you what my old camera mount used to be give me one second okay
Starting point is 00:51:31 let's see it There we go. This is something our stepdad put together. So you would mount it on the table like this. There's like a bolt here. And then that can go in like so. Hell yeah. I mean, that looks sturdy though, man. It was definitely sturdy. And you just like, there we go.
Starting point is 00:52:02 You can just screw that in. Just put it on like that why'd you stop using it uh i i didn't like have so i've got my um camera on a stand behind the desk now i don't particularly like you know especially when i'm gaming uh i'm i'm a i'm an angry gamer sometimes i hit my desk um yeah i know some people like that look the only the only problem is when you hit the desk enough times the camera droops and then you gotta fix it um yep i i'm right there with you man i have my camera actually bolted to the wall so i have my desk right here and then the camera's just bolted to the wall because i that's a really good idea
Starting point is 00:52:41 actually huh i just put a couple holes in the wall, but I've put so many holes in these walls, I mean, hey. What's one more? That's... Huh. Well, I've considered doing something like that with my lights,
Starting point is 00:52:57 because I've got... Actually, no, I can't take them down. Do I have a spare one? No, I don't. I've got a set of Niwawa 480s i think they are the big niwa light panels um and they're on stands but because they're on stands i have to bring the desk a little bit out from the wall so it might just be easier to to put them directly up there i would like i i just i would just bolt it up in the top right
Starting point is 00:53:26 corner of your wherever you're at and if you have like a big law uh diffuser or light box you could you could make a really good shot with that oh that yeah huh and that way you can add some dynamic range to your shot too because if you have everything just like right here where it's coming at you everything's lit and everybody can see everything but sometimes it's best to have like a little bit one side should be lit a little bit more than the other and some other stuff at least from what i read on youtube or you know i was like okay let me try that so i've tried so many incarnations of it i got like little little light spots where you can just turn stuff on and get like a blue glow if you want or just maybe a little bit more filling
Starting point is 00:54:10 i mean it just depends on the mood that you want to set on the camera but i always like having something to where you could fill in whatever light you have yeah yeah what do you actually use the camera right now i am cheap and I don't like switching anything, so I've been rocking a Canon M200, which is about a $400 camera. Yeah, I've got the same thing. I love it. It just works. I probably should either bring it closer
Starting point is 00:54:41 or stick a lens with it or zoom on it just so I can get a fancy bokeh shot um but yeah it's it's it does the job absolutely yeah and i'm like hey if it's you know you could do like a full frame and frankly for how close i have this i should switch to a full frame and do all of it but then i'm like does it really matter at the end of the day we're talking about linux and other stuff and people really don't care come to look at my face so i was just like it's fine well in my case actually you do have like a little a little cam when you show your desktop yeah yeah yeah yeah half the time the video is going to be on that anyway so it doesn't yeah and usually what i do is when i have this i have a green screen back here one second i just pull this
Starting point is 00:55:34 bad boy down oh yeah and then it's just gone so that's what i do one second i'll uh plug you back in so we don't have reverb try to do like a little headset there we go so that's just mounted to your roof then is it yeah I just mounted it up there it if you walked in this room you'd be like oh my this looks like a disaster zone because I just take like I got two by fours with a pull-up bar strapped up there just because i was like yeah i did i did see the pull-up bar when you did the fm11 stream yes and i was like hey i'm just gonna knock out all this and we're just gonna combine all this in there and i'm gonna get in shape and stream and i don't know i got a bunch of crazy ideas
Starting point is 00:56:24 like no it's actually a great idea to be honest it may when i saw the number of how many pull-ups you'd done like okay you know what maybe i'm being a bit lazy maybe i should uh i should work out more i think we all work out more and i've got i've been watching oh jesus this embarrassing, but I love David Goggins. I don't know if you've ever seen it. Oh, no, Goggins is great. Dude, that guy... Stay hard! I was like... Stay hard! Yeah. Who's gonna carry
Starting point is 00:56:53 the boats? I love that guy, man. Just in case anybody doesn't know who Goggins is, I'm gonna bring up a video. Yes. David Goggins. Compilation, why not? i'm sure we can find something uh something fun because i'm seeing an hour 30 compilation what the hell oh my god um it's insane he wait uh you know we just pick up a YouTube short. This will work. Yeah, here we go. Uh, you must change your mindset.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah, here we go. So today, I decided to try to PR my long run. So the first half of the run, I'm feeling great. My mind is clear, nothing going on. Thinking about nothing but my, just my running pace. What I'm doing, my breathing, everything like that. Get to mile 15, I turn around, and the demons start to creep in. That inevitable wall is creeping up on on me when you push so hard
Starting point is 00:57:48 Something's about to get and I start to get my mind start to break down starting to hurt Dehydrated start feeling sorry for myself Why should go ahead to broken feet i'm just gonna keep running though yup yup yup yup being a little you know i love gulgins gulgins is great great but yeah i i watch it like i he pulled up there i was like okay if he can do that stuff i can go run a mile sure you know or yeah it's just like one of those things i was like okay i need to do it because i'm getting older and pretty soon i'm not gonna be able to do it if i don't do it now yeah yeah so
Starting point is 00:58:30 yeah no i'm you know i'm like what am i 24 like i'm at the point where i should be doing it so that when i i am old it's just not a problem, then just get it started early. Rather than, you know, most people where they'll just let everything sort of decline and then decide now is when I'm going to fix things. The thing that sort of changed my mind recently, I was going to the beach and there's this really big staircase to get down. So obviously when you leave the beach, you have to go up the staircase to get down so obviously when you leave the beach you have to go up the staircase to get to get the top um about halfway through i was i was winded i was like you know what this is a problem it's a long staircase to be fair and i was dragging like what do they call them cooler books is that uh-huh yeah okay cool yeah um cooler yeah i was dragging that up i was dragging up like a
Starting point is 00:59:22 big beach umbrella and i got like halfway i was winded like this is a problem i need i did do something about this well man i mean i would say like i got pretty bad i had my doctor say you need to exercise more and then it's like hey you gotta you know my liver wasn't functioning all that well i can't drink anymore and uh some other stuff and i was like okay i need to get back in shape and then i went and made a fitness channel on youtube you did and one of my things is anytime i get into anything i just got to go all in i'm just bam so i did like a fitness video every single day for like an entire month oh wow and i would just record everything. And I did end up doing CrossFit, which is don't don't do CrossFit.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's just it's it's I'm four months in now of doing CrossFit five days a week. And I got to tell you, it's still just as hard today as it was the first day. And it's just terrible. So I hate it. But I always tell myself, hey, but but dude you could i'm seeing results so i was like all right we're just gonna keep going because i don't want to be you know uh i don't want to be dead here in like 15 years yeah going the way i was drinking eating unhealthy dude i mean it would have probably happened so i was like all right changing changing things yeah yeah yeah always a good time to get healthy yeah my uh my mom found out recently she's like pre-diabetic and yeah I was like you know what I don't eat as bad as she does that's for sure but
Starting point is 01:00:59 I don't want to be in that position when I'm her age. I want to make sure that I can still get out there and still do whatever I need to do. But she did decide to start playing tennis and stuff recently, so she's doing better with it. Yeah, and I think that's just being active is the big thing. But yeah, anytime I'm at work, there's a guy that works with me, and we're going back and forth.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And he's a big Diet Coke drinker. So I'll go and I still go into a day job. For those that don't know, I don't do the YouTube for all the time. So usually one day a week I'm going in and anytime I go in and he's a great dude. He's really highly technically just awesome all the way around and just fun to talk to but he's drinking diet cokes all the time like dude that stuff's gonna kill you it's gonna give you cancer don't do it put the diet coke down how much water have you had today so i'm i'm like i'm like the the nag over on the other side uh of the little tech department we have there so that's fun though i love it i love it
Starting point is 01:02:06 yeah yes i drink more water yeah this is full of what is this how big is it does it say i don't know some 1.2 liters i don't know what that is in in american um leader leader works we have leaders here okay sure yeah i pretty much we don't drink everything in gallons well we do have i just assumed it was ounces or something i don't know oh yeah we got those i don't know why we don't just convert to metric but whatever you know what i've heard it's it would just be really expensive to do it yeah yeah and i think like england converted to metric but they still like haven't converted all the way like stuff is still in like miles in certain spot yeah so it's like weird like a weird in between metric and that
Starting point is 01:02:55 still commonly will use stone for weight oh okay yeah um but there are those weird brits there are a couple of things where i've just accepted that you know imperial is just going to be the way it works like height height i understand enough in because you know if you say i'm 177 centimeters like what does that mean like yeah like 5 10 or something 5 11 i don't know something that range um like that that's that that works fine but everything else uh actually i couldn't i could imagine it i was talking about this the other day i think it was the last podcast maybe maybe the one before that uh there's gonna come a point where electric cars so you know how california is gonna stop selling uh uh gasoline cars by 2035
Starting point is 01:03:45 supposedly until we get to 2034 and they realize that they have to keep selling them but there's gonna there's gonna be a point where they decide that um it's gonna be a point where it actually happens and there'll be a point where they actually outlaw gasoline cars so there's gonna be a point where there are no filling stations in certain states. So you're just not going to be able to take a car into that state. The same thing could happen if the US did a state-by-state transition to the metric system. You could have some states where they have speed signs in miles, some in kilometers, and nobody has any idea what's going on.
Starting point is 01:04:24 That would not work at all. It would just be some mass chaos. Yep. I could just see here the good old boys now. I ain't gonna do that. Forget you guys. Kilometers is a bigger number, so you get to go faster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I like kilometers. I mean, I used to do foot races a little bit, so we always ran 5Ks, 10Ks. They never did it like, we're gonna go run 3.1 miles it was kind of silly so it seemed like after one mile everyone just stopped using miles yeah pretty much it's i get it but yeah man oh geez uh you mentioned you started uh streaming a bit i i didn't i okay i i know there are people who still play it but i didn't know that you still played ff11 yeah yeah yeah so i'm like really old school gamer and if we're being 100 honest um i kind of like hacking old mmos that's like my my thing
Starting point is 01:05:21 and like even everquest you know i was, I didn't own like a major developer on like macro quest, but I did develop some like plugins and other things for, you know, warping around the map and some other, uh, hacks for that game, which, you know, I, I loved EverQuest to like a thing where to the point where I was writing scripts for full automation of all kinds of characters, like clerics and... Oh, man. But yeah. I still play old... EverQuest was a bit before my time.
Starting point is 01:05:55 But my... My first MMO was RuneScape. I played a lot of that. Yep. And that was kind of like after my time, so I was like late 90s early 2000s which i think runescape did come out in that time but i was like ah runescape's for kids uh the original version i think was i think it was late 90s was it okay yeah but it didn't
Starting point is 01:06:22 really become that big until runescape 2 2 came out around the early 2000s. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm still playing that a little bit. I'm kind of jumping around lately. But man, I kind of... It's one of those things where I'm just kind of giving up on modern gaming. And it's a shame because I was such a PC gamer for so long. But I just hate how fractured everything is and there's launchers for everything and and just i just want it to be a more cohesive
Starting point is 01:06:54 experience because at the end of the day when you move to console you're just just the other day my buddy is like hey you need to get an xbox for this and i gotta tell you then you're buying all the accessories and yeah i mean and there's stuff about these consoles that are just downright predatory and no one gives a shit like the xbox i have a i think it was like i can see here it is i got a ps5 headset but i can't use it on the Xbox or anything because the Xbox uses their own proprietary headset. They don't allow anything. Now you can get a little conversion thing for your controller, then you can plug
Starting point is 01:07:34 it into here and then... Ah, man, I'm just telling you. The proprietary nature of the consoles are just... They kill me. They kill me. I want PC gaming to see that that the golden years of like the 2000 2010s yeah i do like my i do like my controllers but like you know i don't actually i don't have a ps5 or an xbox one i just like the controllers um yes they like i would say the ps5
Starting point is 01:08:02 controller is really good i think the ps5 controller is when sony finally realized how to make a controller because they took what was good about the xbox control where it's shaped like a human a human is going to hold it yep and that's all they did and they add a little weight if the ps5 got a little weight to it. And I was like, I like that. But I just, yeah, I look at all that stuff and I'm like, man, I really want PC gaming to see a resurgence. And as much as people can shoot down Valve and crap on like the proprietary nature of Steam, I really like how cohesive that is.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Like I've been playing a ton on the Steam Deck, way more than any other device now to where i'm like that it there's hope there's hope there and i'm just so hopeful for for modern gaming and kind of a comeback there that you know we can just sit there and uh do it and that would be just so much fun so I mean that's what I'm kind of looking for and I think Linux is going to lead that charge because of Valve's contributions in Steam because then you can kill, you don't need to run all these
Starting point is 01:09:14 stupid launchers in the background that just auto launch on loading up Windows you know you can just use Linux and I'd love that well I think the good part, like, there is still a lot of good happening in modern gaming, but it's not happening from AAA games.
Starting point is 01:09:30 There's a very few exceptions where, like, you know, you should probably play it. But, like, indie games. Right. Indie games, there are some amazing titles coming out. Come Out Now, Hollow Knight, Silk Song. Yeah, it's not like... some amazing titles coming out come out now hololive a whole night silk song yes i know i know i know where your office is you're in my state i will come visit you release your goddamn game team cherry jesus christ it was supposed to be an expansion back then they were like oh it's
Starting point is 01:10:01 gonna release later this year and that was like five years ago and i'm like what the hell come on team cherry yeah oh and i was so good and uh this past year i would say for triple titers there's only been two games that i thought was any good and it was elden ring and then god of war and that was it and those were the two games speaking of god of war uh a big part of the reason i have this is uh for ps2 emulation i am playing through god of war i just finished no almost about to finish god of war one on the ps2 i'd never actually played the original god of war games oh see my wife played through all of them like she played through the originals and then the remasters yeah so i kind of like tagged along for some of that and uh yeah i mean they're so good they're so good and i mean they play really good on the
Starting point is 01:10:49 steam deck i have uh god of war one and two on the steam deck for emulating and i think he got a war threes on there too but but uh where i was going with our fI, we'll be completely moved off of that. I am an FFXIV player. I like FFXIV. It's great. Sell me on FFXI. Why should I play FFXI? Well, you strike me as a man with a higher than room temperature IQ,
Starting point is 01:11:17 and I feel like you would be doing yourself, you know, you're going to have to use your brain a little bit more to use Final Fantasy X no no i joke i joke um i would say final fantasy 11 is a difficult game brutal and just you'd have to go in not with an open mind of the control scheme's weird like you don't use your mouse ever in the game things are clunky because they're just trying to figure that stuff out back in the early 2000s it was the first console mmo it was the first console mmo and on pc when you play it, you'll be using your numpad. It's a weird control scheme that you just never will run into.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I don't think I'd ever tell anybody to play it on purpose. If you play it, do the Horizon XI server. It's free. You can get in there. You don't need to give Square any money for it. They've done a good job of at least removing like the play
Starting point is 01:12:25 online requirements and just that whole headache yeah so you can actually get in and see this weird game from the early 2000s but i would never really actively tell anyone to play it i love it for its own like personality But yeah, it's very complex. There's gear swapping. You have Lua files you're going to make for that so you can maximize your character. You might have 20 different pieces of equipment for one specific, like you're going to heal.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And you're going to need certain pieces for enhancement for that one spell and then other pieces for another spell you got to swap those out mid-cast some pieces are better for pre-cast some pieces are better for mid-cast some pieces are better for resting and idling and you just you you need all that and it's it gets ridiculous don't play final fantasy 11 whatever you do it's an insane game but i still love it i love it now i see why ff14 1.0 went in the bin because they designed it to be a follow-up to ff11 i'm like yeah no no you can't do that 15 years later i totally understand they i think what was the current wow expansion i think it was like mr pandaria or like wow was well established you
Starting point is 01:13:56 know people may have an issue with that expansion but like wow was well established by this point like we had moved very far past this style of mmo and just throw that out there just wasn't gonna happen it was pretty bad like even coming from 11 as an 11 player i played it and i was like this sucks i'm not the game was also really badly programmed that doesn't help either yes and i was like okay no so i mean, but it's, it's interesting. I kind of just like the unique nature. And really what I miss the most about it is I miss the developers take chances instead of just tab targeting one,
Starting point is 01:14:35 two, three for your skills and a SWD and your mouse. I'm just like, ah, show me something new. Take a chance. You know, don't just be like another WoW clone
Starting point is 01:14:47 or, you know, a copy of a copy. Like when Elden Ring came out last year, I think that was a great example of a modern game that really didn't just copy and paste everything. And it was unique. And that's what I want people to get back to when it comes to gaming. That's when gaming is good.
Starting point is 01:15:05 But nowadays it's just too DLC ridden and there's too much big corporate stuff interest in it. So when I play, I think it was destiny too. I literally just wanted to throw my computer out the window. I was like, are you kidding me? There's just monetization everywhere.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And you see the time sinks that you're going to be in. And you're like, okay, that's just our artificial time sink because they may need you to be playing this game for three months while they engineer the next dlc that they're going to charge you 10 ah don't get me started i just oh i hate it i hate a lot about water games i did hear a very interesting take about the way that souls games work it's not that elden ring is something new and unique obviously it's going to have those elements it's very like from my understanding it's basically just dark
Starting point is 01:15:54 souls it's open world dark souls but the difference is it's formulaic in the from software style and that is a breath of fresh air compared to everything else in the industry because right it seems like i've said i haven't played it yet but when i played bloodborne it was victorian dark souls sekiro is japanese dark souls i guess it's already japanese it's like very japanese dark souls elden ring is like all the concepts in the game. Like, you know, you've got your bonfires, your Estus Flask, your Titanite Shards. Everything is, it's that same structure, but it's just not full of, you know, microtransactions. They do have an expansion coming soon. That's, that's what a lot of people are hyped about. But when FromSoftware does an expansion, it's an expansion.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Like they still do like classic style expansions yeah and that's like the the beauty of it like that is like the golden era that it but people don't do it because you can make more money with freaking horse armor and cosmetic stuff you know horse armor was the the the start of the flood of horse armor is tame compared to today the oh yeah what we have today is like limitless scaling like diablo immortal 120 grand to max out your character i'm so scared i'm a huge diablo fan too by the way i'm still like i'm gonna probably get off here pull up some diablo 2 resurrected and just jam out to that for a bit but i'm so scared of diablo 4 like i know i know i'm gonna buy it i know i'm gonna play it and i know i'm gonna be like devastated by some
Starting point is 01:17:39 season pass bs or some type you know they're gonna put a microtransaction in there somewhere or everywhere it's blizzard and in the blizzard of today is awful so i mean i hopefully i'm wrong i would love to be wrong because i said the same thing about the steam deck i was like this thing's gonna suck the steam machines were a failure this is gonna be a failure and then it was like oh they hit it out of the park i was like this is amazing i'm so wrong and i love it i love the steam machine it was such a stupid idea like i know what because what was it like a year or two later how many years later did they did they do proton uh proton was like oh i want to say it was like three years later yeah because i think the steam machine came out in 2014 and i think the first iterations of proton really didn't
Starting point is 01:18:34 hit until 2017 maybe 2018 the steam deck is what would have happened with the steam machines may actually it's still like weird because it's like desktop system and now handhelds are super popular i don't know if it would have done as well but it wouldn't have been an absolute flop right but i here's the thing about valve and a lot of people don't realize this like anytime you have a business you you need to fail a whole bunch and what valve did was they they branched out they wasted all this money on steam. They wasted all this money on steam machines. They wasted all this money on steam controllers. They wasted all this money.
Starting point is 01:19:09 The same controls were pretty good. I have to, I fricking love the steam controllers. I was like the only one. And when they went on sale for five bucks, I just bought as many as I possibly could, which equated to like one or two because they like limited the sale and they're gone real quick,
Starting point is 01:19:24 but still an amazing device. But, and by the way, on the steam controller, I'm still a little bit salty at scuff. Scuff is who killed the steam controller. Those greedy SOBs, basically patent trolled valve and then to like a four,
Starting point is 01:19:42 I think it was like a 4 million or $6 million settlement. And that's why the steam controller went out so forget scuff used to buy anything from them right paddles yeah they they freaking uh i i don't know they have a patent on buttons on the back of a controller like how the hell does someone issue a button a patent for a button on the back of a controller i don't know if sony and microsoft now have a partnership with scuff because they have the elite controllers i'm not sure how that yeah they they probably just paid them yeah and because they just have infinite money why not but i was just like ah scuff i hate them i refuse anytime i have a chance to just say don't ever buy anything from scuff.
Starting point is 01:20:25 They stuck from patent trolling and getting rid of the steam controller. I do have a soft spot in my heart for scuff because you know, I, I grew up as scuff was super popular with call of duty with like, you know, black ops MW two. Like that's when scuff was like, you buy a scuff.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Like it's sort of like, you know, to be a programmer, you have sort of like you know to be a programmer you have to run a window manager to be a gamer you have to own a scuff controller that was like yeah i was in the middle of high school then like that was the coolest thing scuff controller astro headset you're a gamer i get it i get it man but like i yeah that's that's so dumb yeah it's just get it, man. But, like, yeah, that's so dumb. Yeah, and it just did him dirty, man. So forget Scuff. I hate him.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yeah, I completely forgot that ever happened. That was... Yeah, that was the whole thing that 86, the Steam controller, was really Scuff in their lawsuit. And if they continued producing the controller they'd have to pay like obscene royalties and they're already on like razor thin margins to make the controller like i think it was only like 30 bucks and then when it went on sale and they just pushed them all out they were like five dollars they just wanted to get
Starting point is 01:21:38 rid of all the inventory and uh yeah man that's kind of the story behind why you can't get a Steam Controller anymore. Maybe they'll work out some kind of partnership or... I know there were rumors a little while back about a Steam Controller 2. I don't know if it was just rumors or it was anything substantial to it. I would say just rumors just because of the business and how that all went down with the lawsuit
Starting point is 01:22:03 and them losing the lawsuit to scuff so i mean that would be very very but then again the steam deck does have the back paddle so maybe they find a way around it i don't know yeah but i would love to see a steam controller too that's for sure speaking of um like really tight margins though the steam the Steam Deck is... The way the Steam Deck is priced, it's a ridiculous price for what it is. I've been seeing a lot more people recently talking about using the Steam Deck as their computer. Choosing to buy a Steam Deck over buying a laptop.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And one of the things that Valve really has over the other companies trying to get in this space, like... I'm sure you've seen some of the other handhelds out there. I'm blanking on names now. But all of them have these crazy price tags, like $800, $1,200, $2,000 in some cases. But Valve has the advantage that the console sellers have, where can sell this device at like at price or at a loss and make it up in other areas. I don't know. Like, this is one of the things I'm not really sure if there is going to be a strong market of competing devices just because of how difficult it is to compete against that Steam Deck pricing. I don't think you can just because of how difficult it is to compete against that steam deck pricing i don't think you can
Starting point is 01:23:26 just because of that like they're selling it pretty much at at what they they get it at i would say i mean maybe they make a little bit of money but it's not much and it might even be sold at a loss it might be a loss leader and if anyone could do it i think epic could do it just because they do have that established market they do but i don't think they have the chops like steam does like they went through the fires to make the steam deck possible with the steam machines the steam controller they learned all those custom control schemes like just to tell you how good that is it's more software than it is hardware i think that's the big thing that most people get hung up on is the hardware is not really that impressive rdna2 nice and the layout's pretty
Starting point is 01:24:10 good and the weight's decent it's still a little heavy but for the most part it's good the battery's a little bit on the low side but that's all the criticism i have and i usually can really pick apart stuff. And I'd say for the Steam Deck, they just did a great job with getting you into that ecosystem, building out controller profiles for your games, and then you're buying stuff. And there's games I play, like Final Fantasy XI. I rigged all that up. I did a full sync using
Starting point is 01:24:45 sync thing and then it syncs all my devices up with Final Fantasy XI. I pull it up. I like playing it on my Steam Deck the most because I have a custom valve controller scheme that has certain macros bound to those buttons and it's easier to play on my Steam
Starting point is 01:25:02 Deck than it is my computer. That's kind of insane that I'm playing an MMO in a better environment than when to play on my steam deck than it is my computer that's kind of insane that i'm playing an mmo in a better environment than when i'm on my main machine here because i'm kicked up in my bed just laying back and i'm like hell yeah i mean they just did such great it's the software and in that store tie-in they just did a great job with it to where there's nobody that can really compete it's not about the hardware it's about what valve did around the software and the thought love that went into the device i think that's no that's actually a good point i hadn't thought of it like that i i was only just thinking about the hardware side but no um it would i think epic could do it it's just
Starting point is 01:25:40 they don't seem to have that care at all about Linux. Where Valve, like, was it Windows? What version introduced the store? 8 or 10? 8. Yeah, I remember back then there were, I think Gabe Newell might have said something about it, where he was really worried about Windows sort of going down the route of Apple with the route of apple with uh the iphone and mac os we're like hey
Starting point is 01:26:07 you can like with mac os you can install things outside the store but you sort of expected to do things through that and that's the primary way the software is distributed yeah and gabe was really worried about the microsoft store and uh you know them taking over and then them locking down Windows and forcing people through it. And I think they still are trying to attempt that with Game Pass, which they've done a pretty good job lately of pulling people into the Microsoft Store
Starting point is 01:26:35 with Game Pass. And that works really well for those people that have an Xbox. And this is mostly Americans, though. I mean, Xbox has terrible adoption around the world. But here in America, it's actually like a 40% adoption rate, which is pretty good for Xbox. What is it? Xbox X, the latest Xbox, whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:26:56 People just call it the Xbox series because there's the S and the X. Yeah, the Xbox series. The new Xbox. Yeah, yeah. And they really have a really good tie-in with that. Like, I just loaded up one, and I was like, oh, wow, this is really good. They tie you in with a $1 a month charge, and then it changes to $15 a month. But you can play it on your computer and the Xbox.
Starting point is 01:27:21 So everyone's going to sign up for that. And gamers, you know, traditionally a little bit lazy. And they're going to sign up for that. Gamers, traditionally a little bit lazy and they're going to forget to cancel so they're going to get charged $15 a month times that by $12. Bam, you just made an extra $200 or well $180 a month or
Starting point is 01:27:38 a year off of everybody that's in your console. You're just offering decent games i think atomic heart was on there and some other ones were on game pass that are actually pretty good but the values there for the gamer so to where if they're really hardcore gamer they're probably gonna have it and if they're not they're probably gonna sign up and forget and it's just i i see it and getting back to where gabe was he was really worried that they'd really execute with the
Starting point is 01:28:06 the microsoft store and you know luckily for us you know microsoft's pretty incompetent and that never really happened the microsoft store has always been kind of a hot mess and uh no i don't know if they can ever really fix that like i i see the inner workings of that microsoft store when i'm gutting it for a toolbox or whatever I'm going to be doing when I'm stripping down a lot of these Windows systems. I look at that Microsoft
Starting point is 01:28:33 Store and it's, man, they always have a way of screwing things up. They'll go from these Apex things that we get used to and how they install and uninstall. And we can manipulate those with PowerShell. And then pretty soon they add like provisioned Apex and it just gets into this huge debacle.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And they don't do a good job with executing. And I don't think they ever will on the Microsoft store. I just don't think they're capable of putting together a cohesive store experience where people are like, OK, yeah, I'm just going to install that on the Microsoft store. I just don't think they're capable of putting together a cohesive store experience where people are like, okay, yeah, I'm just going to install that through the Microsoft store. Your grandma's going to install Solitaire through the Microsoft store, but I don't really see gamers doing it other
Starting point is 01:29:16 than to cash in on their Game Pass. Minecraft. I think there's a version of Minecraft you have to get through. I don't know. I don't use Windows. Yeah, I can tell you about all of it. Like, yeah, I do Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I've had a Minecraft server for two years that I've administered and run. The last time I played Minecraft was... This is one of those things where I was the perfect age for it. I played from the start of the beta until the end of the beta which was like seven years or something um and i haven't touched the game since it was a the beta in minecraft is like the alpha was like five years the beta was like five it was not an alpha and a beta like just stop it was it was a full release and you were just patching the game but yeah i haven't played
Starting point is 01:30:05 since the release version which i think release version was when the ender dragon was added um okay oh you're out of focus now oh now we're back oh yeah yeah my my game it's getting getting dark in here here let me turn them on my light sometimes that helps where's that there we go ah there let there be light maybe maybe i'll go back and focus yeah it's better yeah you're saying about minecraft oh yeah but yeah i've been doing that minecraft.christitus.com and i've been running that for about a year and a half two years and me and my daughter will play occasionally and load that up and i've set like different worlds and pull into other things there's a lot of linux administration to the back end there that's really fun so i actually enjoy a lot of the technical
Starting point is 01:30:55 aspects of it where you're you're loading up and uh setting cron jobs and i'll leave that server going and usually i can go for like three months, six months without ever even really touching the backend. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. It's just fun. Kind of messing with.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Uh, yeah, I don't know. I was trying to think of a way to segue out of that. It didn't, it didn't work too well. Um, uh,
Starting point is 01:31:23 you know, we'll go back to go back to YouTube for a bit. So your channel, okay, you've got a weird channel because you do Windows and Linux. I just deal with the Linux people. Yeah. What is your comment section like with that swapping back and forth? Have you sort of developed an audience that cares about both?
Starting point is 01:31:43 Do you have the Linux people that come in, like, window bad? Like, how does that usually go down for you? It's weird. So, initially, I was all Linux all the time for a good year or two, and that's all I really covered. And, I mean, I put in occasional Windows videos, and those would do really well. Like, they'd be bangers.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Like, I had one where it was just, like, how to remove a virus from your computer, and I showed how to use Tronscript, and it would do really well. They'd be bangers. I had one where it was just like how to remove a virus from your computer and I showed how to use Tronscript and it would strip out everything. And that one, I think it's at like 2 million views or something ridiculous. And I occasionally sprinkled this in while I was doing Linux,
Starting point is 01:32:16 but most Linux people don't remember that. And then I had a toolbox I made and that just kind of took off and people started using it. I got featured in a lot of big articles, and then that came in too. So the audience kind of shifted on my channel to where it was all Linux, and now it's mostly IT professionals, I'd say. People that use both Linux and Windows is probably my primary audience now.
Starting point is 01:32:44 They just don't really have like a, they, they use them, but they don't really have like, I don't care about. Yeah. It's not like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:32:52 I, my personality is I use Linux. Right. So you'll run into that. And, uh, I would say you get the comment sections cleaned up a bit because the Linux folks can be kind of diehards. I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:06 if you know that or not. Oh, I'm very aware. They're pretty passionate about things. I didn't mention... I talked about rolling releases recently. I didn't mention OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and the OpenSUSE Tumbleweed users got very annoyed with me. Yes. I mean, it's just a
Starting point is 01:33:22 very passionate community and that's Linux. Windows users are not passionate. They use Windows out of like captured, you know, they're like, I have to use it because I have this proprietary application. It only runs in it and it doesn't run in wine and I have to use Windows. So that's like my audience and you get a good mix there. And the big thing is to instill feeling in a Linux video is really easy. So we've talked about how important it is for people to feel stuff when they watch your videos.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And like we talked about Ubuntu bands, whatever. Yeah. On windows, and like we talked about Ubuntu bands whatever yeah on Windows it's harder to instill that emotion in there and when I do get it in there that video is just gonna I know immediately gonna get a hundred thousand plus views and that was like the last video I made on the channel was I was fixing a computer and it was a printer I couldn't install, which stupid, right? You can't install a printer. I mean, well, Linux problems usually, but this was a Windows, Windows Home, Windows 11 Home. And they removed a lot of the backend that I used to
Starting point is 01:34:40 manually install printers and they just never replaced it with anything on a windows 11 home. Now on windows 11 pro, it still existed, but on windows 11 home, it didn't. And that just pissed me off to no end. So I, I rant raved about that in that video and it was pretty,
Starting point is 01:34:56 uh, pretty raw, but it's those types of things that I like to try to do. But getting to your original question about, you know, is that user base different? It's more of just trying to speak to them. And it's still something to where it's harder to mobilize, I guess, or really get people to care about the videos more that I'm touching on Windows. It's still possible, but it's much more difficult where in linux there's just new and exciting stuff happening all the time that a one percent niche people really care about and i love
Starting point is 01:35:34 but that's uh it's not going to speak to many people right and it's it's hard to go from that to windows where 80 of the entire compute base uses and then trying to go from that to Windows where 80% of the entire compute base uses and then trying to show something that one, they've never seen before or show something that's either exciting or more often than not, you almost have to take a more negative approach where it's like,
Starting point is 01:35:58 look what Microsoft screwed up this time. Yeah, you got to take the AAA gaming channel approach where it's like gaming is dead. Gaming gaming is dying this is why microtransactions are destroying the industry yeah i mean you know do like a josh strife hayes i don't know if you watch him yeah yeah i think he totally burnt out on gaming by the way i love his videos and he's just stopped producing i was like dude i get it though like he's so jaded now because he's seen gaming for what it's become he's like but uh yeah that's that's kind of like where i'm at is now it's like hey uh trying to make things better for people and that's what i try to do with all my projects now is just make something unique that no one's ever seen before and then
Starting point is 01:36:45 make them just enjoy their computing experience if you can do that then make someone's life easier or just improve their computing life by introducing a tool or just teaching a new way of doing things that's kind of what I live for. And that's what I try and teach, whether it's live streaming, whether it's a YouTube video, all of that, man. I'm just, that's where I try to focus my efforts.
Starting point is 01:37:17 And sometimes it's hard to come across and deliver that. And sometimes I find, when I was forcing myself to do the videos in a consistent know consistent way because if you're not consistent on youtube blah blah blah yeah you're gonna fail and all that there's truth to that but you gotta you still gotta do those banger videos that just that that's i always try and remind myself that's what i try to do there's truth to that but then there's also internet historian oh yeah one disappear after the concordia deal the concordia video and then he like is gone for a year and i
Starting point is 01:37:53 was like maybe he just made his bag and he's like living on an island somewhere i don't i mean maybe possibly that's what i hope yeah no look if he's absolutely loaded, that's great for him. One thing I usually like to touch on with whenever a new person comes on is sort of how you get involved, like how you first got involved in tech, first got involved in computing. Like when did that first become a thing that you were interested in? And you know, how,
Starting point is 01:38:22 how did that lead to you to where you are now yeah uh i've always been just a big computer nerd so i remember being like eight years old and running into an 8086 they didn't have a hard drive it was just two five and a quarter floppy bays and i remember loading that up and and booting into i think it was DOS at the time I think it's like DOS 1.0 or maybe 2.0 and I remember loading into that and then you could swap the floppy drives out and I remember putting on like some of those terrible Star Trek game and I was like this is absolutely amazing oh my god I can't believe this and then of course at school then you got into Oregon Trail you know you have died of dys at school then you got into oregon trail you know you have died of dysentery or you tried to ford the river and fail and that was kind of like me
Starting point is 01:39:11 getting out of grade school era and then i kind of evolved from there and my stepdad at the time we were really big into computers and he helped cultivate that and you know we'd we'd scrap together computers or get like go to i remember going to like this shady store like behind something like it was only open on sundays and you had to pull up to the back and then you could go in and get like cheap hard drives we'd get like a hard drive for like 20 bucks i think that was like a big deal but it was probably stolen but i mean it was like it was cool though then. It was probably stolen. I mean, it was cool, though. It was like this hodgepodge of computer stuff, and it was just a neat era coming up.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And that's where I got my start. And I've never really been good so much with hardware. I've never been big into hardware, but it was always the software side of things that always spoke to me. And I got into programming in the 90s, and I fell off once I got into sysadmin work and then just started doing businesses and just more infrastructure base.
Starting point is 01:40:12 So I did all that and Linux kind of came about in the early to mid two thousands with networking and mainly hacking wifi networks. At the time I was kind of poor and I needed to get free internet. So I, I put together something, I was using Nopics. Uh, it was like one of my first distributions. And I remember hacking into all these web keys because web was like super insecure back then. So you could just go wham. And you know, if there was any traffic on a web encrypted network, I would just be in in like a couple minutes so i could grab all those networks put them together and uh man that was
Starting point is 01:40:53 fun so that was kind of like my first start to linux and then obviously my career kind of took off and um coming into like 2010s i started doing doing more building out telephony boxes. I was using CentOS and some of those Linux boxes and building those for, you know, big companies, you know, even even government agencies here like FEMA, National Guard, ATF, all that stuff, a lot of their on-site, if they have an operation somewhere and they wheel out a mobile communications tower, most of the telephony boxes were built by me. And we did that, and that was a lot of fun. So I learned a lot about Asterix and CentOS, and I had a good time in Linux, but I never really thought of it as a desktop environment.
Starting point is 01:41:43 I mean, sure, you install Ubuntu here and there, but I never really treated it as an actual alternative because it was a big gamer. Right, right. A big PC gamer. And then keep going. And it wasn't until about 2016 when I hit the pinnacle in my career where I was like, this sucks.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I really just want to retire. This is awful. I don't ever want to work for like a fortune 500 company again you don't like being a number well i was more than a number i was uh the director are you a director of numbers i was the director of numbers but at the same time i was responsible for revamping this entire data center but But the company at the time, it just pissed me off to no end. It was this environmental agency, SWS, and they merged with like Eagle
Starting point is 01:42:31 and some other waste management company. You remember that big oil spill in the Gulf? Remember Deepwater Horizon? I think is what it was. It's ringing a bell. But they spilled like just tons of oil all over the place and it just ruined the ecosystem in 2010 uh yeah i think it was like uh just after the 2010s i was 12 years old i was not paying attention to it but yes i do remember it happening okay yeah yeah that big thing
Starting point is 01:43:01 well the company that i got hired by basically cleaned all that up and made just a ridiculous amount of money. You know, I think in that year they got close to clearing a billion dollars. And I thought, well, that company obviously has some money. They are obviously going to have regular infrastructure and be put correctly. And they probably have like a good DR system. It'll be fine. No, it was not fine.
Starting point is 01:43:33 I got hired there and it was a complete nightmare from day one. They were just a terrible employer when it came to like the top down experience. They had churned through all these IT managers. Right. And I got brought in from like a recruiter that found my skill set online and they paid me a ridiculous amount of money.
Starting point is 01:43:55 So, you know, I was getting compensated very well. But I walked into this and it was like day one, there was an on-prem exchange server that hosted all the email in the entire company, thousands of people working there. And it was seven days from running out of space. And I was like, are you kidding me? What are you guys doing for backup, by the way? And they're like, well, we really don't back up the whole system per se. We have a copy of the active directory
Starting point is 01:44:25 but not really much else and I was like oh my god what did I walk into so I did an entire on-prem exchange for thousands of users to 0365 in a week and that was just
Starting point is 01:44:40 insane and then I revamped their entire storage and then everything crashed of of course. After that, we had a storage array, a whole SAN device. It was like an HP left-hand SAN that just crashed. And then I replaced that. We got it all back up. And in the middle of that, I was just like, F these people.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I'm just going to revamp everything why I'm here. If they're losing hundreds of thousands of dollars per day that this is down, it's just going to be down for a couple days while I redo it. I didn't sleep for two weeks, basically. I didn't sleep for three days, but then I took breaks and actually
Starting point is 01:45:19 slept. It was like two weeks of living at a data center. Redid their entire citrix farm redid all the stuff and got onto a more stable situation and then afterwards i was like anything's possible anything's possible and i never want to work for a big company again and i'm going to quit and i'm going to figure out how to do my own thing. I don't care what it was. So in 2018, I, obviously I moved back to more small business stuff that was pretty easily to control. And I love small business because it's, you know, you can handle anything. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 01:45:56 uh, I started crypto farming in 2018 and then come to 2020, uh, uh that that obviously had a boom and bust cycle pretty pretty rapidly if you've been in crypto at any period of time well 2018 was a good year for me or 2017 was a good year 2018 most of the year was good until like midway through and then not so much and uh then i was like i should start youtube channel all these kids on here are making stuff i mean there's this latest guy and this other people i mean come on i can i can make tech videos i know a lot um and then windows started videos yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna produce windows server videos that's gonna be bangers man man. People are going to love that. Yeah, yeah. It was just fun.
Starting point is 01:46:49 And that's where it brought me to YouTube was that whole thing. But that's my whole tech experience from when I started to now. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Don't work for a big company. Oh, my God. Only heartache. But you do get paid. I will say it's a nice paycheck i still haven't made what
Starting point is 01:47:05 i made over there on youtube yeah i think a lot of people so a lot of people sort of misunderstand how much money you make on youtube like obviously you can make a lot if you are you know embedding ads and everything you can i've you know i'm sure your emails are full of people being like, hey, come to this. CDKeys.com wants to pay you. You probably get a ton of those too. There have been a couple that I've been considering because I have gotten a couple where it's like
Starting point is 01:47:36 companies I actually like. I do have an affiliate with Linode. I like Linode. They do cool things. Yeah, Linode's good. But I've had Brilliant come to me and places like and like i was very much considering it because i do like brilliant as well but when it's like hey i am a key reseller website for video games we are hosted in china like uh are you now are you now oh no yeah all the uh the constant vpn ads you get it's like no no unless you're gonna let me be honest if i can do the uh the tom scott vpn ad i'll do it i'm not gonna be like
Starting point is 01:48:16 it lets it it encrypts all your traffic like do you mean it uses https like it uses military grade encryption you mean aes i'm sure it does yes if it didn't that would be a problem oh man yeah i think about all that man like that's the thing i hate about youtube a lot of people i guess the sponsors i think you can make a good bit of money especially in the mid-sized realm for a youtube creator uh i think you can make a living doing it it's just it's not like i have any you know i'm not like holier than now and yeah yeah do that type of stuff it's just for me i just hate dealing with the sponsors like a lot of them are just not fun to deal with you know and that's the thing like i i like to at least be truthful
Starting point is 01:49:03 and kind of put my own spin on it and they really just want a doctored up thing where you have to follow a script. And I've never been able to script a video. That's my thing. I can't read off a teleprompter. Anytime I make a video, I usually have a bullet point or I'll write a little web article. And then I usually have like three paragraphs. And I can't even copy that on my video because I'll just be like, okay, I got the gist of it.
Starting point is 01:49:26 And then I just talk into the camera. So I'm just not, I'm not geared for that work, I think. And that's kind of why I'm trying to pivot a little bit away from YouTube being like my main, my main thing, because it's just,
Starting point is 01:49:41 I don't think I'll ever be the guy that's like, and now onto our video segue sponsor. And then this video is brought to you by FreshBooks or whoever, you know. It's like, okay, I just can't do it. It's just not, it just ain't in me. And maybe one day that'll change. I try every couple months. And then my wife or the guy at work I always share all this with,
Starting point is 01:50:07 he always laughs at me because I'll tell him all about it too. And he'll be like, dude, it's always the same thing with you. Every time you choose a sponsor, you just come and bitch to me about it. I'm like, okay, yeah, that's fair. Why do you torture yourself? I'm like, well, maybe this time it'll be different. Maybe I'll just, maybe it's just like the 70th time I do this, it might be good this time.
Starting point is 01:50:33 And then, yeah, I don't know. It just never is. So I'm sure here in a couple months, I'll give it a whirl again and find a sponsor that I like. And usually there are good sponsors absolutely and uh it's just it's sometimes it's very hard for me to put it in but yes as far as the money that youtubers make it's uh it's hard for me if you look at the social blade number where it's like from you know 200 to 2500 like sure yep okay so you're just saying it's somewhere between $200 to $2,500. Like, sure. Yep.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Okay. So you're just saying it's somewhere between zero and $1 million. I mean, that's like a lot of this number. Sometimes they don't even make those spreads properly. And most of the money is not even from Google Ads since it's sponsorships, affiliate links. And I think there's going to be... Patreon, membership, things like that. Yeah. I think a lot of the product review channels
Starting point is 01:51:25 can make a really good chunk of change either they keep the products and resell them or they can uh get better sponsors because of that and the sponsors will pay them more and since they're talking about products they'll get uh rips from the products themselves so they'll sell uh you know whatever product it is and then they'll might get 10, 20% ripped from that commission. So there are YouTube channels that can make some serious bank. I think a lot of it is, you know, I think in our space, who does it really well, I think is like LearnLinuxTV. I love how he monetizes his channel because he doesn't make Jack off his ads. Like he's not,
Starting point is 01:52:06 he's not making anything there, but he's, uh, you have, if you talk to Jay, have you had him on? no, I haven't.
Starting point is 01:52:12 No. Yeah. Jay, Jay's awesome. I've talked to him a little bit. I need to reach out to him again. I'm just terrible and antisocial, but,
Starting point is 01:52:19 but he's great. Learn Linux TV. And he does a lot of guides so he actually writes up full-blown books and sells them on amazon yeah and you can even see some of his early works jeff geerling which he's actually gotten to be a big creator now he's he's eclipsing me any day now if he hasn't already and he writes a lot of kubernetes and other stuff and he does i think learnpub.com let me see what what is that website and he he makes guides off of a lot of sysadmin work which um what is that it is yeah learnpub.com and he writes a lot of books and so he'll workshop
Starting point is 01:53:04 his book on there. And then once he gets it ready or he gets it all published, he'll take it and put it on Amazon. And I think that's really where it is. If you can actually write an entire book and if you can almost like a full college course, that's where these guys are, I think, really succeeding in this space. succeeding in the space where if you're just trying to grind out videos and, and, and farm the YouTube ad revenue, it can be difficult to, to make a really good living off of that. And I think it's finding that in between it's, it's just, for me, I'm trying to find stuff I really enjoy doing and making, and then doing more of that. And that's's that's hard like what do you do like what what what do you love the most about this well this specifically i like i just enjoyed just chatting
Starting point is 01:53:53 with you know interesting people like you know i've had people on who i would never talk to in any other situation besides doing the podcast like i've had um us he lena on the developer one of the developers on us he linux i've had you and i had dt on in the past uh there's a there's a guy who his twitch channel is nothing but installing gen 2 on various devices i found his channel when he was installing gen 2 on a ps2 it's like a 36 part series and each of them like eight plus out it's a ps2 it takes forever to do anything uh he's done gen 2 on like a raspberry pi and gen 2 and all these other random things but as for like the main channel itself i just i've always had this this mindset where i like exploring tech um like you know when i was a kid if you handed me a torch the torch was going to be in pieces by the time you got it
Starting point is 01:54:55 back from me i want to know how the torch works um and just it's sort of an extension of that i've now i see these things that are happening. I want to just explore them. And I feel like for a lot of these things out there, like especially Weyland, no one's really talking about it. Or if they are talking about it, some of the information out there is outdated. Some of it isn't going as deeply as I would like it to.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I just, yeah, I just like to explore these topics, and I've always been a fairly antisocial person and fairly bad at speaking. I feel like this is a way that I can sort of express myself and get my thoughts out there, and I've definitely become a much better speaker as I've been doing this stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:55:51 There's certainly a lot of work there to be done, but it has absolutely helped in my general life as well, just being able to string thoughts together in a remotely coherent fashion. And yeah, I think that pretty much answers that i mean that 100 man i can relate 100 to that you you take hell you can just take my early videos and watch them and then pull up my more recent videos and be like damn what has changed i've never i haven't hired anybody i haven't done anything really that different the fact is just learning as you go and becoming a better speaker and even in my real life when i go speak to people now people listen a lot of times because i'm able
Starting point is 01:56:37 to project better i don't use a whole bunch of filler sounds i had a tendency of being well so uh you know i i'm sure i've done that oh my god it's like one of those things where you just you're constantly uh mindful of it and hearing yourself speak back yeah is very uh always something to learn yeah yeah because you can you hear it that's the one thing i would say about youtube it's great like even if you make a hundred videos after each video you have to watch it back and edit it it's so cringe and it's you know those first hundred times maybe 200 times i thought my early videos were great and then six months later half and i was like wow yes that's not great yes i mean i go back to some of my early videos i'm like oh it just gets worse as you get older
Starting point is 01:57:33 and you like look back at them you're like oh gosh i had no i gotta leave it up i had nick from the linux experiment on a while back and it's really bad for him because he was learning English as he was doing his channel. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. I do remember a lot of his early, early stuff, but he's been killing it because I always watch. He pulls up in my feed from time to time and I like pulling him up. But yeah, he's he's great. He's great.
Starting point is 01:58:06 of time and i like pulling him up but yeah he he's he's great he's great it's impressive man that he could pick all that up as a second language and then still speak and honestly i like his voice better than mine so i think everyone's gonna say that they're like no if you like your voice i think you have a bit of a problem like it's one thing to be like yeah you know it's one thing to hate your voice like that's a whole different thing but if you sit there and be like yes my voice sounds great I love my voice like what are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:58:35 true I mean if I could change anything about my voice I would say I'd like to be British I feel like if you're British you immediately get a little more authority and people listen a little more. Yeah, that's fair. Or if I had to like change my nationality, I'd be
Starting point is 01:58:51 Canadian because every single successful YouTuber is like Canadian. And I'm thinking there's like a correlation there. Maybe it's like their nationalized healthcare with like not getting a lot of sun or something and therefore they breed more YouTubers. Inevit not getting a lot of sun or something, and therefore they breed more YouTubers?
Starting point is 01:59:08 Inevitably, a lot of the top YouTubers I follow are Canadian. I look at, you've got Peter McKinnon, Linus Tech Tips, Chris Ramsey. I mean, there's a lot of them out there. There's a lot of Canadians.
Starting point is 01:59:24 I've never met a canadian you know i just used it as like oh man you know if you ever waited tables you know you see someone that might not tip you always call them a canadian we don't have tipping culture is so weird we pay tipping cultures weird over here yeah we we pay the people two dollars an hour and then they gotta be do their job real good and then they get tipped for the rest of the payment and somehow we're okay with that but that's probably a conversation tipping didn't even remotely exist here until uber came along like australian like we we pay the people at restaurant like you know 25 something plus an hour they make the money and then uber comes along and it's just like tipping tip what
Starting point is 02:00:12 is tipping what does that mean but to be fair uber drivers make nothing from from the actual rides like you should be tipping them it like as long as i don't kill like as long as the driver doesn't kill me i'd get at least give him like five dollars okay okay so i mean you guys do tip the uber yeah i was about to say those poor uber drivers oh no there's a lot of australians they're just like actively against tipping no matter what it is okay well i get it no it's like there are there are some restaurants that try to introduce tipping and people are like no because we know that there are minimum wage laws and we know
Starting point is 02:00:50 how much these people are making stop it that's awesome I would rather just everybody makes a good fair wage I'd be okay with that that would be nice unless you know you live in Silicon Valley and then even
Starting point is 02:01:06 making a fair wage you're gonna be homeless because you need to make like yeah yeah well here in texas like i live in dallas fort worth now i kind of traveled around so some people like triangulated my accent as like south carolina or something i think someone said, I'm like, Oh my God, no, that's way off. Uh, but I actually grew up in the Midwest and then transitioned down here to Texas, uh, about 20 years ago. And down, down here, the job market's just phenomenal. I've never had any issue with a lot of the tech jobs and stuff. I always wanted a tech job in the Midwest, could never find one, move down here, found one like day one and i was like this is insane y'all's job market is crazy and then i slowly uh uh transition and you know man there's just so much opportunity around dallas fort worth because so many businesses moved here that you can just i've never had an issue so i was really really
Starting point is 02:02:05 uh kind of wild but yeah california well that's what's happening in uh in my state so uh melbourne and uh and sydney are sort of like they're sort of the australian equivalents of silicon valley like that's where all the tech that tech like the google australian headquarters was microsoft all of that stuff but the smaller companies are starting to realize like they did with uh with austin that things are very expensive over there so let's start going away from there and come to my state the problem is that means everything in my state is going through the roof, which from my understanding, what's happening in Texas as well. It is.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Yeah. Everything here is like doubled in price. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's wild. And a lot of our, yeah,
Starting point is 02:02:55 everything is just gone. It's been kind of wild because we've, we've had a lot of the people coming from California. We've also had some New York transplants. I think one of the YouTubers, Rosman, he moved down to Austin, I believe, from New York.
Starting point is 02:03:12 So, yeah, it's pretty wild, but I mean, it's a pretty good culture. I like it around here, and it's still affordable for the most part for now. We'll see. At the end of the day i probably would just do like a move out to the country and just if starlink's not a gajillion dollars by then
Starting point is 02:03:34 just get a really good internet connection and just live on a farm i'd be okay with that too there are some places i've considered moving to uh that i can get fiber in like the middle of nowhere because we have i'm moving to australia then yes really used to have okay i don't want to end this soon but i do i just mentioned this as well so a few maybe like 10 years back something like that we had a a government plan come in called the National Broadband Network, the NBN. The original plan, because Australia was so far behind in internet, the original plan was run fiber to every single property. We wanted to be like, you know, up there with Korea,
Starting point is 02:04:17 having crazy internet. Now, the problem is the same problem that the US has, where you have elections and sometimes the party changes. The new party came in, and they were like, no, that's expensive. Let's not do that. So what they ended up doing is some places have fiber to the home, the ones already done. Everywhere else has fiber to the node. So they run fiber to the thing, and then they run copper from the nodes out to the node so they run fiber to the thing and then they run copper from
Starting point is 02:04:46 the the nodes out to the houses the existing copper so the hundred year old copper that was there um oh could the homeowner at least pay for the connect if they wanted yeah if you wanted to so here's the thing they're they are now now they've swapped back to the other one they're now doing the original fiber plan so they're spending like twice as much by just doing in the like rather than just going with the original plan spending so much more to do fiber properly ah that's just governments that's governments everywhere nobody has a good government that's like hey ours is the best i mean i'm sure there's some americans that might say that, but probably
Starting point is 02:05:25 not. You know, I think every government has that dysfunction. I think that's what makes a good government, though. If you think about it, to really get everything done and having one party in control all the time, that
Starting point is 02:05:40 sounds like dictatorship and something really bad might happen if that actually happens so it's probably best that you have the back and forth the good guy's gonna run it, only the good guy yeah, only the good guy's gonna run it my good guy's gonna run it exactly, exactly
Starting point is 02:05:58 yeah, well that's we're past the two hour mark then I guess we should probably be ending it off. Let the people know where they can find you. ChrisTitus.com is probably the best spot, and then all my links are there. Whether it's GitHub, you want to watch some of the projects I'm doing on GitHub,
Starting point is 02:06:18 to watch me on livestream on Twitch, got that. Obviously, my YouTube channels. I have a Clclipse channel, regular Chris Titus Tech channel. That's kind of where I go and kind of hang out, man. I'm going to be making content everywhere. It's just sometimes
Starting point is 02:06:35 it's a little sporadic. I do have to wake up in like seven hours and go run 36 drops at a new commercial building tomorrow morning. That should be fun. i still do my day job yeah on top of all this but that's uh it's fun man it's fun i really appreciate this brody this is awesome i love uh doing the podcast man absolutely i'm more than happy to have you back on like whenever like this is great oh yeah you can actually hold a conversation which is
Starting point is 02:07:02 a problem that i found and the youtube is generally good at it but when the non-youtubers that's when it comes an issue yeah uh youtubers i think we have to be able to hold a conversation and just kind of get some stuff oh but yeah man next time i'll pull up some topics for us man and we'll we'll i hell i just love shooting the shit with you it's great yeah awesome um as for me the main channel brody robson do videos there six times a week the gaming channel brody on games uh right now streaming probably doing god of war 2 actually and hogwarts legacy uh i don't know when we'll finish at some point after we're done god of war 2 maybe pick up persona yakuza i don't know work it out later.
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Starting point is 02:08:12 Don't be afraid to fail. That's what I always say. I always tell my kids, don't be afraid to fail because you will never succeed if you don't fail. That's a good message to end on. Well, I'm out.

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