Tech Over Tea - Linux Chats With 2 Australian Boys | DaBoom

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

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Good morning, good day, and good evening. Welcome to episode 139 of Tech Over Tea. I am as always Brodie Robertson, and today we have Dabumon, who is a small streamer, mostly Minecraft, and also a local South Australia boy. How are you doing? Excellent. Absolutely, I've had a great week this past week so well yeah now that it's especially uh you know the weather's clearing up a bit it's not rainy as much we're actually starting to see some warm weather it is kind of nice yes it is how is the weather in your house i noticed the bricks so you'll see in some weird stuff about your house like how does your room get like really hot because mine mine's a bit of a mess right now given that it's mostly glass um yeah temperature

does tend to get pretty hot sometimes it it's surprisingly not as bad as outside still so yeah i just have my um my window over here i don't think you can see it with the camera you're seeing i've got my window open over here, though. But there's no fucking breeze, so it doesn't matter anyway. I have to close half my blinds, and there's still too much light coming in from the thing. It's like, oh, great. One of the reasons why I generally don't stream during the day, because it's just like, the lighting is just... Well, yeah, you stream, like, what, you usually start at like 11 o'clock, 10, 11 o'clock at night. 9, 10 o'clock, 10, 11 o'clock at night. Ah, 9, 10 o'clock.

Yeah. Sometimes 11. I have to psych myself up beforehand. It's like, come on. Gotta do this. Oh, wait, hold on. What's this YouTube video? Always getting distracted by something or other.

Yeah, that's why I like to set, like, hard times when I'm doing things. Like, I'm going to stream it this time, every time, because it is pretty easy to start procrastinating. Especially, I do the same thing with my videos because I don't have a set time for those. So they've been slowly creeping later in the day. Now I usually start around 11am, but I still have time to get them done.

So at the end, it's not the biggest deal. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Well, you play a lot of Minecraft and I have not. I stopped playing Minecraft. What? Back at the end of the beta. I think the last update I played on. Yeah, so a long time at this point. Yeah, that's you're an oldie. Because I played all the beta. I think the last update I played on... Yeah, so a long time at this point.

Yeah, that's... You're an oldie. Because I played all the way... I know the update I started on. It was 1.3. 01? It was the bed update. Yeah, 1.3 underscore 01 or whatever it was. Oh yeah, that was a good update.

I remember that one. It's so weird to be in a community where most people had started after 1.0 release. It's like, oh shit, you didn't know that? I've spoken to some people who started after that point. They're like, wait, the ender dragon wasn't in the game at one point? Beds weren't in the game? Yeah, the game used to be really simple. A lot of the stuff that

we see and i i occasionally check back in like with updates that are happening a lot of the stuff that you see in like the vanilla game now is stuff that used to be mods it's sort of bringing a lot of those those features in yeah it really is um i remember when they when they added pistons that was a that was a fun time i was like oh wait i don't have to install the mod anymore i remember the um the drama about that because the the addition to the game was basically the same thing but they weren't crediting any of the mod creators at the time even though they're like basically ripping the mod and slightly different textures well there was a slight difference the um they they had the normal pistons and the sticky pistons,

but the normal pistons in the mod, I seem to recall, used to throw the items. Now you have to use a block to sit on top of that to make it throw the items. Right, right, right. I don't remember what it was. I think it was slime. No, it wasn't slime.

I can't remember. I think it was the same thing with the potion brewing as well. But I know that when they added the end and the credit scene and all that, I think they did start to credit some of those people. If I recall correctly. But the last thing I saw aboutcraft was there was like a was it a competition or something about adding a new mob and they're gonna add like camels into the game they they do that sort of stuff quite regularly i honestly i don't get really get into that sort of thing i

just sort of let it go and go yeah yeah because i i prefer to go oh cool they added something new and and and see it when they add it. Like, it's cool that people get a say in it. Don't get me wrong. It's, like, incredible. But otherwise, it's like, eh. See what happens and see what I can do with it. Yeah, like, you sort of see all of it before it's happened.

And then by the time it's in the game, you've already, like, lost all of that hype. And, no, I get it. It's sort of the same with basically any game out there like you can get very into into sort of the pre-release stuff and then you know sometimes it's kind of disappointing when you actually see it in the game proper there's only been a few times where i've gone ahead and used the uh snap weekly snapshots instead of the normal ones and that's when i've heard that they're adding a feature that i really wanted or like that's been hyped up for so long it's like i just want to get it get it get a hold of it and use it yep yep yeah let's try this um oh i thought you were gonna say something there no there was there was a time when i used to be like super into the

into like there's a bunch of they probably still are now but at the time there was a bunch of youtubers who would like play every snapshot and go over every basic little change being added every change that might be slightly exciting in any possible fashion but like you know that seems like a pretty good content grind to be on to be honest like it's a it's forever bringing you new stuff and stuff's being removed and added like you know i it would bore me to death to do content like that but i get it it makes sense and i get why it's popular yeah yeah yeah i i i used to be big in the modding scene as well when i was messing around with uh installing mods and stuff like that.

The only reason I stopped was actually because for some reason my current internet service provider doesn't like it when I install mods. I don't know why. I can't connect to servers outside of my own network. I don't know. I need to figure that out and figure out what the heck's going on there. It's only that specific thing, though. I uninstall all the mods and everything works fine it's like why is this happening like so i used to be able to go oh let's have a 300 mod set up with

a with all that sort of stuff connect to a uh service done on my local vps or something like that and then and then everything works fine then i I switch to the NBN. I go to connect to the server. I'm like, why can't I connect? Why is it coming up with a netty error? It's just really annoying. I am in the process of messing around with the NBN. So right now I've got a fiber to the node connection.

For anyone listening, nbn is national broadband network it's our national internet connection thing um so right now i've got a fiber to the node but i'm in one of the suburbs where they are like laying down fiber to the home so i'm in that process of switching but i've got a problem with this so my housemate paid to get the box installed early uh because you can do that if you want to but then nbn didn't update the information on their side so we have the box installed but our isp doesn't think the box is installed so they're going to send someone out to install a box and now we have to like wait for them to like work out what the hell they're doing i want a fiber connection like just i got i got five of the street right now it's it's not bad

i do remember they had to come into the house and run a new cable because our our um old uh copper connection was shot completely we were before we were using this we were on telstra cable and it was just like this is horrible but it works yeah yeah what do you actually got as a connection right now what is your connection speed right now i believe we got the 100 over 20 package so we've got the the fit what's the 50 by whatever it is right now. It's probably 50-20. Yeah, yeah, something like that. 100 is 140, I believe. But you might only get 20

because of like, you know, peak hours and nonsense. Yeah, I don't remember. I'd have to re-look that up. But when we upgrade to the Fiverr connection, we're going to get 250 by whatever it is. I'm very happy for the $250 connection. Like, it's only gonna be like $100 a month. Between two people, it's not

that expensive. I did notice there's a couple of places now that are offering Gigabit, and I would love that. It would be nice. That would be epic. It is very,

very suburb dependent, so it's like it's very hard to find i think i remember finding a service provider that laid fiber directly to your house for you and it wasn't associated with nbn and i think they only did an area in new south wales or something like that i'm'm like, damn, that sucks. I was actually kind of surprised to find out there are a couple of little companies like that. I think there might be a place like in Broadmeadows or something that has, like it's just weird random places where you can get those services. I don't understand like the rhyme or reason behind why they go with certain places, but I'm sure there's something there.

Money. That's probably it. It's just where the money is. Well, yeah, but, like, I don't think Broadmeadow is a big money place. Yeah, true, but I know you can do something where you send a message to them and ask, hey, if I pay this much, will you hurry along my connection or something like that? So maybe that area has done that a lot and they've just decided, let's service that area because clearly they want good internet

and they're willing to pay for it. Well, you can do that with the NBN as well. Yeah, that's what I mean. But because they took so long to deal with it they actually so they've still got the box installed they just gave us a refund a refund though so yeah it's it we're just waiting on like whatever they're gonna do with they're supposed to be you know getting back to them yesterday nothing's happened so far, so... You know? Sort of is what it is. It's the government.

It's just... Yeah. I don't know what's worse to deal with, Telstra or NBN. They're kind of just as bad as each other. Well, one used to be the government, and the other one currently is, so... Yeah, well...

It's like... They both have come from that culture. I think either way, it's better than the connections i was dealing with as a kid like i had a like i had a my house was it was an old housing trust house that i grew up in so it was an older house anyway so the copper to the house was also ancient and completely shot i think i think the connection I had when I was growing up was five by one at most. On a good day.

That seems about right. I think I had that as well. It was ADSL 2, but it was basically ADSL 1. Yep, yep, yep. And then before that, it was just straight dial-up. I didn't think I ever had a home dial-up connection. I think my first connection was ADSL 2. Because I grew up in rural Queensland.

Until I was in grade 4. My parents didn't know what the internet was. They didn't want the internet. So we just didn't have the internet. But when we came to SA, that's when we got the connection. That would have been around... Yeah, it would have been around when YouTube started. So like 2006-ish time. My parents took a long time to switch off of ADSL.

We were sitting in it, like, I remember when Netflix came out on like full on download Netflix, mum and dad got a full subscription to that. And it was like i'm trying to download a game and then they're like are you downloading something because they're trying to watch a movie or something like that because there was only ever enough bandwidth for one thing to happen at any one time so it's just the uh the yelling bullshit over the room. The issue that I had is my sister used to be like a pretty big gamer. Honestly, more than I was at the time.

And you know how you open Steam and it starts auto-downloading updates? She would... She had Steam set to auto-open when she booted her system. So it would usually run through updates for like multiple hours this is a couple gig update and you have like five down it's gonna take a long time to happen yeah so half the day it was basically unusable i had to go to him like hey are you

downloading anything on steam it's like oh yeah yeah i remember my parents also had a strict rule where you couldn't run your computers overnight so it was like okay i've got to download this 60 gigabyte game on an adsl connection how fast how far do we want how do we do this luckily steam could pause downloads otherwise i would have been screwed but it was like i can't wait wait a whole week to get the whole thing done yep yep do you remember how much of a data cap you had back then because i started on a 100 gig cap that's when i first got adsl2 i can't remember it was it was a reasonable enough cap that it was relatively okay the download speed was the real problem yeah yeah i went over it well initially yeah that that was the same for me when it became a when it became an issue with the cap that we had it was when i started watching

anime because that's when i was streaming stuff and we'd get to like 200 300 gig like 20 days into the month and we had like a i think it was a 200 gig cap at the time so we got to that point it's like well connection doesn't work anymore you get like 64k down have fun with that yes have fun going back to the dark ages yes and then when i got my when we got our first unlimited connection back when this was a thing that would happen you had unlimited asterisk when it was like it's unlimited but you know you you get 200 gig that's at full speed we just don't cut the connection off after that it's unlimited in massive quotes with a with a with a thousand asterisks and a thousand pitfalls as to why why it's not actually unlimited as much

as i don't like the nbn and it's got a lot of issues and had a lot of issues early on it's better than what we had before by absolute miles i still get people um on stream that are surprised that i'm not having any issues when other people are. It's like, wait, you're in Australia though. Why are you, why are you not having issues? Isn't Aussie internet meant to be bad? It's like, well, it was. Well, it's, we are where like America was 10, 15 years ago.

So it's, it's not like So it's not unusable, but it's not great. Like, 50 down is good enough. You can live perfectly fine on 50 down. Most people aren't watching 4K videos. That's when stuff starts to become a problem. If you're a family and you have 50 down, and

you're watching Netflix and stuff, it's good enough. I would like more, but it's good enough. Yeah. So you run Arch Linux. Yes, I do. How did you get yourself into Linux? Like, did you start with Arch?

Did you watch a Luke Smith video? How did this happen? No, no, no, no. I started Linux well before Arch. Arch was even a thing, I think. I remember when I was really young, my church pastor used to give me his old PC magazines. Okay. And every now and then they would have a live CD of a distro or something like that.

So it was like a PC user and all those sorts of things. And I seem to remember one specifically was KDE 4.0. Okay. Which was very, very old. And I don't think I ever actually installed it. But I would occasionally boot it up just to mess with it just in the live cd like it it was only really every like five ten minutes like sessions yeah because i didn't really know what to do with it at the time and then it was sort of a a spiral into different things um so um i didn't really fully get into any amount of linux in any

practical sense until high school when i would they had a fun little thing where they had not bothered to lock down the bootloaders so i installed a puppy linux usb stick um and went around sat down at a computer plugged it into the thing and sat there playing mario for the whole thing using mu-pan 64 plus just sitting there lunch times just doing that that that's generally what i would do and that was a fun time it was always fun then i'd have wine so i I could play the executable Flash games that you'd find. You get those two variants where they're standard Swift files and full-on Flash games with the Flash player embedded into it. And it's like, I still want to play those, but I can't because they lock down the system so you can't run executables, but you can run flash files. So it was like, hmm, all right.

I have this Puppy Linux thing. Let's just plug it in and use Wine way back when. That was my first use of Wine. Trying to get anything more than that working was way more of a pain than i even knew so i didn't even bother with it yeah um i didn't run linux full time until towards the end of my uni no no not the end of my uni the end of my high school situation when it was i believe it was year 11 and 12 i would um i we had these laptops that were given out to us year 10. Because I was in the IT courses, I was one of the first to get that thing.

Oh, that's cool. It was a scheme where you pay a certain amount of money every year over the course of three years, and they essentially give you a laptop with a three-year license for the software. Yeah. And so, yeah, it was a government scheme, I think, that they scrapped not long after they created. So if you got into it, you were really lucky.

And that laptop was really good. It was an Acer 3830T with a 120 gig SSD and four gigs of ram it was what year was pretty reasonable that was let's see it would have been year 10 when i got that i'm trying to think it's been so long it's been so long i don't have that laptop anymore um but it was not bad i5 2450m i think it was not bad. i5-2450M, I think it was. It wasn't the graphics card variant, but it was pretty reasonable for the time. And after a while, I got really pissed off with Windows for some reason or something like that. Ended up installing Ubuntu on it and used that for the rest of the year, essentially, until I think I was dual booting at the time,

because I got really in with the IT guys at the school. So I found myself able to request, hey, I need to repair this little part of the laptop because there was an accidental warranty on it and stuff like that. While you're repairing it, do you mind if you get the guy to upgrade the ssd for me with this ssd he gave him the samsung ssd and so next minute i had a 250 gig ssd and back then it was quite expensive it was like 250 dollars for it oh wow it was not cheap um and then they upgraded the ram as well so it was like now i got eight gigs 8 gigs of RAM, 250 gig SSD. The thing actually runs really well.

And it was really nice to have a dual booting set up with that. And I would sit there and just mess around all the time. It was Steam was in its early days. There were some native Linux things. Proton wasn't really that much of a thing. So, you know, it was still painful to get certain things working but for what i did it was fine i spent most of my time playing terraria anyway i miss the the like those early days of school laptops school it because they sort of caught on to how terrible their systems were as my cohort was going through it.

When I joined my school in grade eight, the admin password that would unlock the internet connection, that would disconnect, because they had these blocks for like, you know, you couldn't launch programs. It was admin.

The admin password was admin. And no one would guess it. Yeah, my IT guys were a lot more into it than they... But when they changed it, they changed someone's date of birth. So these guys weren't the smartest.

Oh, no. that's pretty sad no the biggest contender we that our it guys had to worry about was the fact that a lot of uh uh teachers did not understand how to um keep their passwords a secret that also happened yes i think i remember one point i was in a class standing behind a teacher. He logged in on his computer and I saw him type his password out, like finger poking, like, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk. I'm like, I now know your password. Cool. I can watch YouTube whenever I want without having to pay. without having to pay.

Of course, there was a lot more other things you could do when they eventually changed the password because once word got to the IT guys that that had happened and that password had gotten out, it was now you have to change your password. Yeah. Imagine how frustrating the teachers would have been just because, oh, you have to change your password now it got out. Like, how did that happen?

They stuck a camera behind you. Yes, that's what happened. In the form of two eyes and a nose. And, yeah, that was always an entertaining situation to see. And then what else was there? When we had the laptops initially, they were using the original images for the um for the whole school the same images for the whole school so that's what they gave us so they were completely locked down images and you couldn't do anything with them but because they were bought laptops that students were

purchasing people would just go we're paying for this anyway let's just mess with it and they couldn't really say anything eventually they released a specific image for those laptops where it was like now you have admin rights yeah and it was a lot easier to deal with you didn't have to worry about uh logging in all that sort of stuff yep yep yep but most of the laptops had gone out by that point and a lot of people could not be bothered to go in and get their systems re-imaged yeah and they would just grab one of those empty password usb sticks or something like that or like you know one of those recovery usb sticks um unlock the local admin password that's on every windows computer thing and that's what they would do it was just yep now we've got access we're fine i knew so many people that were running that local admin

account as their main account because of that it was like this is really bad because that local admin account i don't think it ever had you could ever enable uac for it or anything like that because it was an administrator account like it was like really poor security i'm just like that's probably not great i when i when i when i ended up doing the same thing for my laptop as well and i think i remember um i local ad i got the local admin account and created myself a sub account for it but then i installed linux on it anyways i was like it didn't matter in the first place no it didn't matter in the end anyway um but my school was a little bit harder because we so you had those windows devices we didn't we had macs so when i started school you know the old white shell mac oh yeah like the g4s and the like, those sorts of

The 2012, it's just like the white clamshell 2012 Mac. The 2010, whatever year it was. Plastic ones, I can't remember. Yeah, it was like all plastic body. It was gross. The G4 was.

But, it didn't stop us because turns out there is uh a lot of older games that were made to run perfectly fine on those max so we would play a lot of games built on the um built on top of the quake engine turns turns out they all run on Macs. Yeah, because people created ports for it and all that sort of stuff. It's like, just move the pack files over and everything works. So we're playing things like Urban Terror,

Assault Cube, things like this. Turns out also Halo 1 has a Mac version. So we also played Halo 1. And COD 4. Turns out COD 5 also has a Mac version. That reminds me of the library Halo tournaments people used to randomly put on on the PCs there. Yeah. It was like one guy keeping their eye out for the teacher to make sure the teacher,

because you're not supposed to play those games. It's like, oh, quick, the teacher's coming. Alt-Tab. Yeah, it got to. Sorry. Then that little piece of software, hide me.exe is yeah you remember that one hide me everyone had that it was i think it shows up as false positives now on every single antivirus under the sun but back then it was it was basically the quintessential thing that people

used to play games during class because essentially what it did was it hid the icon from the taskbar so it looked like it wasn't even running oh you just use a hotkey um well you could just change the icon if you wanted to do that that would be a much easier way to do it was it hit the the because it was running still it hid the whole window the whole, basically left no trace that the thing was running at all. Oh, right. So you just hotkey in. Yeah, right, right, right. Okay. Yeah.

And a lot of people used that at the time. I had a different one. I think I found a virtual desktops app made by Sysinternals that essentially did the same thing, but it was virtual desktops. So you could switch desktops and all that. And I remember running that for at least a few months. Windows didn't have virtual desktops back then, did it? It had partial capability to do it. It was just never implemented.

Okay. Was that Windows 7 then? That would have been Windows 7. I think it worked with Windows XP as well. I'm not sure. I know XP definitely didn't have any virtual desktops. Just search Sysinternals desktops. It's still a thing. You can still download it and use it. I think it still works with. Just search Sysinternals desktops. It's still a thing.

You can still download it and use it. I think it still works with Windows 10. Sysinternals. It was something I used quite a lot along with the Sysinternals suite back when I was running Windows on everything. And it was pretty useful. I really remember that sort of stuff. Wait, did this project get bought by Microsoft? Um, Sysinternals

is a Microsoft thing. Oh, right, okay. That makes sense. It's basically like an external, like internal developers could upload their own projects to it. Oh! Stuff like that. I think, I'm pretty sure that's what it was. I could be wrong. Someone in the comments can correct me, I'm sure.

Right, okay, so this was for Windows 7 8 8.1 and 10 yeah oh that's actually really cool i didn't know about that but it was relatively janky i will admit there was some issues with it that were frustrating to deal with because like i said the functionality was built into the windows system of microsoft's operating system so but it wasn't fully implemented there was a bunch missing that had to be compensated for and stuff like that so it worked but it wasn't great it wasn't like what they have now which is essentially the same thing that linux always had. Because Windows didn't have proper user-facing virtual desktops until 8 or was it 10? I can't. I know 10 has them.

10 definitely has them. Yeah, 10. I can't recall if 8 had them. I think it had 10, no. I can't remember. Why don't I just look up Windows 8 Virtual Desktop, and if it tells me anything, then that'll mean it exists.

That's the easiest way to do things. Okay, no, it's telling you to download desktops. Okay, so 10 was the first one that probably had them then. I don't know how you use a computer for virtual desktops. They're so nice oh it is

I got devil's pie running on my system so I can because I'm running XFCE and I've been running that since pretty much the time I switched from Manjaro to Arch and devil's pie is really useful when I because it's a, I think it's a Lua based

system and I can use it to send certain applications to, and lock them to certain desktops. And I have it so if anything sits on my right monitor, I can lock it to that right monitor. So no matter which desktop I've switched to, it's always on that desktop. It's always on that monitor. So I've done that, it's always on that desktop. Oh, that's cool. It's always on that monitor. So I've done that sort of stuff. Temporarily, rarely disabled at this point in time because different layouts require different things. Sometimes I've got to disable it.

Why is XSE the desktop you go with? I don't hear many people running it now. It's simple and easy, and I have a tendency to stick with something that I like when it works. So it's just what happens. Eventually I'll switch. Once I get an AMD thing, I might go to Sway or something. I was running i3 as the window manager for XFCE at one point.

That was pretty good. And then on my laptop before that blew up, I was running Awesome Window Manager on that one. So you do like tiling then? I do like tiling. I do... I think I prefer something like Awesome where you can choose whether you want to tile something or not. Right, right.

Something like i3 seemed a little too restrictive and a lot of apps aren't designed for things like that, and as a result... i3, you can float windows. It's just... Yeah. Yeah, but it's not as easy as things, because some apps, when you launch them,

they expect you to be floating. Yeah, okay. So they program with things like that in mind, and as a result, it just becomes a glitchy mess right right right with um awesome you can set a like a desktop you want everything on this you want this entire desktop to your floating desktop yeah another thing i struggle with is hotkeys memorizing that many hotkeys and it's just like it's it's like dying i'm like i've memorized these ones and i know that there are about 30 more that i haven't memorized yeah yeah and i can't be bothered it's easier to set your

own but at the same time it's like then you've got to work out what works for you and that's fair once you set more than like 10 you're getting into forgetful territory again yeah i've got a bunch of keys that i half the time forget about like certain things are easy i my keyboard has like dedicated media keys for example so those are easy enough to deal with and like a app launcher and app closing fine but like yeah half the time i forget my keys it's sort of just muscle memory i'm like how do i open my browser again what was the key combination and my hands just go to where it needs to be but don't ask me what i'm actually using half the stuff yeah i got media keys here as well but but I use them all the time.

The only thing I don't really use very often is the volume slider because I've got the MIDI pad here that I can, that has like a dozen different sliders and all that sort of stuff. So I've got a, a Kai MIDI mix, MIDI mixing desk that I use for all my mixing stuff. Oh, that's cool. It's completely MIDI, so it's compatible with Linux.

Easy. The only issue is a lot of them do have third-party configuration softwares. This one's not so bad. Before this, I had a Korg Nano Control 2, which was great. The only problem is it doesn't really have dust filters on the sliders. And as a result, it wears out quicker. And I think I remember buying the Korg Nano Control from Cashies for about half the cost of the original one, even though it was only a hundred dollars the main one but that was good but the software what you had to run it in wine so you can configure it so that

because with that one it was very configurable you could set certain buttons to momentary and certain buttons to not and do do whatever you wanted and however you wanted it but it was sort of a mess this one is a mess in a completely different way i'll admit this way this one i because there's not as much configuration in order to get things working i have to use a bunch more midi control change plugins and all sorts of other things in the in the patch bay that i'm that i run for it that sounds like a lot of work just to just to work with yeah i'm i can't remember if i've tweeted that in the image of my patch bay as it currently stands i'm pretty sure i have at one point i it might be way down in the tweet thing but yeah it was kind of crazy

but yeah it was kind of crazy because like the only thing that i have to deal with like is the microphone and then my my yamaha mixing board but this doesn't have anything like you know internally on linux as to deal with everything's done directly on the hardware so there's no like messing around patch by nonsense but yeah you know i can get what i can see why that might be a little bit of a problem well the thing i can do about this is i can i can just set buttons to do whatever i want them to do so you know you got mute buttons and there's uh the rec arm button because this thing's meant for recording like voice voiceover recording stuff like that yep and like but obviously djs and stuff like that use it as well um i i can just set those ret arm buttons to whatever i want so i've got like um i'm not gonna push them now because they will activate um like a bunch of

uh patchback plugins for like reverb and voice modulation and you know pitch change and stuff like that that are all programmed into the desk as well. Huh. Because I'm running everything through Carla. Yep, yep. For all that sort of stuff. And then I just use QPW Graph to patch everything together.

Used to use, back when I was using Jack, I used to use QJackCTL for all that sort of stuff. But it's like, I don't need that now. No need to. Pipewire is good enough to work. Oh, you're on Pipewire then. Yeah. I switched a little while back.

I kind of, you know, maybe I just buy one of these for the memes and just mess around with it. Because this seems really cool, to be honest. Yeah. I have wanted to get another one like one of those uh pad midi pad style ones for like uh soundboard and stuff like that because there's a bunch of uh uh lv2 plugins and stuff like that you can use to play wav files um and so and you can hook them up based on what note they are yeah yeah so you can buy like i think at the church we've got like a um a it's a it's another akai brand thing called an apc mini

and that thing is just buttons it's just 100 buttons it's got sliders as well. It's the same sliders, actually. But it's also just buttons, and you can just program them to do what you want, how you want it, and it just works. Right now, I've just got that programmed into my StreamPi. So I have a Raspberry Pi that runs Stream Deck software. Oh, wow. That's really useful.

That's honestly really cool. I've not heard of anyone using a setup like that to to like deal with the audio yeah because it sort of grew organically quite things just you know i need to i want to be able to control stuff so i don't have to reach over and change change change to um tab change workspaces so i can patch something through or something like that now it's very rare i need to do that because i have everything auto patching quite quite simply so with your your um midi mix thing you you can control can you control like your audio levels like in Linux yeah right right yeah um I use a for for that sort of stuff to link the sliders to um thing I have a little piece of software called jack mixer which is obviously it's a jack based piece of software but it works with pipewire as well because pipewire jack um but essentially that can link in and use midi for sliders and stuff like that it's essentially a virtual mixing desk that you can link to a physical midi mixing desk

wow there's there's a lot of stuff in the audio like the audio side is one of those areas that i am basically like the biggest noob at with linux i have no idea what i'm doing the extent of my audio like on like in in software and linux is using qpw graph to take audio from my um my capture card that i use my console and then route it in back into my speaker so I can hear it in my headphones and then also route it into OBS. That is all I do. But I've

heard from Umph some cool stuff and now I'm hearing this from you. That makes me want to mess around with some stuff. That's so cool. I just messed around with a lot of stuff and tried to find something that works. There was a bunch of iterations when I was trying to work this stuff up. One issue I still have is, because I'm using for basic volume control when I'm desperate to change something or make sure things are on the right syncs and stuff, I still use Pabu control.

But whenever you start Pabu control and then look at the Qpw graph it looks insane it really looks completely crazy you've got to close that before you do anything it's like what is this why is it linking to literally everything i want to try that out now because i just got a basic Behringer audio interface connecting this mic up to it because it's an XLR mic pretty standard fare relatively cheap

the Behringer and the mic, that's the normal stuff I hear that from a lot of stuff but I don't hear the MIDI side from a lot of stuff that's a new one for me hmm because I like my mixer board one of the only issue it has is it doesn't have a mute button so if i want to mute myself i have to grab my my audio knob yeah and just twist it just twist it till it's empty yeah having a mute button is work i got the idea to do this, honestly, from the GoXLR. I went, all right, so the GoXLR is not compatible with Linux.

But then I looked at it and I looked at scripts that, like when Linus Tech Tips released that month-long Linux thing or whatever it was. I saw him struggle with the go xlr and stuff like that and find a script that made it work and i realized that's just using jack to link everything up it's legitimately just installing jack using um using patch commands to patch everything together and make it work the only thing that the desk seemed to do was the bleep button, which I still really want to set up, and I've got to work out how to get that working. I think, well, obviously,

easiest way you could do that is have like a temp... If you don't want it to be a bleep, you could temporarily mute the mic. So you have a button there that as long as you have that toggled, then it will just mute it. That could do that, obviously. have a button there that as long as you have that toggled then it will just mute it that could do that obviously um i'm sure there's a like a way with python or something you can just generate white noise and do basically the same thing yeah it's just trying to get it to interface because

with the way i've got things set up i wanted to essentially switch off like so when the bleep's going it it's not taking in audio and vice versa so it's patching that so it works with just a single button is a lot more difficult than you'd expect especially given the way i have to have to have things set up with this with this mixing desk because because it's not meant for streaming it's meant for like dj artists and like full-on like ableton setups and whatever all that sort of stuff is it's sort of difficult to make it do what you want it to do because it's all expected to have things done in a certain way so you've sort of got to simulate those things with basic software if you want it to work with with a lightweight setup but i guess you can basically do everything you'd want to do from a GoXLR then.

It's just you don't have... Well, the GoXLR has... A lot of people talk about it has the motorized sliders. Yeah, that's one of the things I wish I could find. I believe there are MIDI pads that have motorized sliders, but at that point, you might as well buy a full mixing desk. Right, right. It can get quite expensive looking at the audio hardware

when you go that high and it's it's not a big deal not having sliders it's just you know you just got to make sure that everything's set to be honest an even bigger issue is the fact that because there's no motorized sliders when you start the system up all the sliders don't go to their current position so you've got to like reset them all make sure they're all in the right right spots right before you do anything it's not a big deal like as long as you just have give yourself a bit of time to set stuff up then you're basically good maybe i'll try it out i don't know i say this now and i'm probably going to be like, nah, that's too hard. Yeah, it's really a thing you've got to push yourself to do in some ways.

I realize I just, because I only did it because I was fed up with this little thing here. This thing is not as good as you'd expect. It's a PC-37's it um it's better than most mics like i would recommend it for someone who's not doing streaming and just wants to do a video call from now on now on because it's relatively clean but at the same time it's not yeah like um so i was having a lot of trouble with static and stuff like that and because i don't actually use uh any um ai noise removal on my setup because with this mic i don't really need to the noise is so the noise floor is honestly so low especially when you've got a um uh like a noise gate yeah that it it doesn't

really matter it sounds good without it and honestly i swear i noticed a little bit of distortion when you enable it anyway it's very minimal but it's there and it's like i can sort of hear that that's not natural sounding right right maybe i i do use ai noise suppression i've had some people complain about like oddities in my voice that could very possibly be what it is like there might be some people that i don't look there's some people that probably have like really expensive setups and are really sensitive to you know hi-fi nonsense i should probably just disable it for a bit and just see sort of what reaction i get from that and just see if you know it does anything better because i i have a noise gate on as well

um yeah so i i maybe i don't even need it i don't know well yeah the worm and noise suppressor comes with a basic noise gate anyway usually especially with the um the patch bay plugins that I use, the one that's specifically for that sort of stuff, actually has, I think it's called voice activation detection. Right. Which is very similar to the way Discord does things with like, you know, with a slider to detect exactly how high your noise floor is and all that sort of stuff.

Actually on Discord, I actually have to turn that right down because I've got one already on there and I've set everything up so everything goes through that system. Right, right. Yeah, I've had issues with the Discord noise suppression. I don't know if... So you can completely disable that then? called noise suppression i don't know if there's so you can completely disable that then you can't really disable okay certain parts of it you've just got to turn it right down right because uh

like sorry yeah like so if you've got the um the noise suppression bar right yeah yeah and you got the slider on there you just turn that almost to zero don't turn it on zero otherwise it'll think you're constantly talking but the moment you turn it slightly off zero everything works fine and it's like this is crisp because um last episode i recorded uh the guy had on he was gonna do some guitar stuff and discord was not happy about guitar it was like hey this chord's fine this chord we have a completely cut out all the noise yeah it's that's generally to be expected with something like discord that's just not really designed for that sort of thing yeah yeah of course like i wasn't expecting it to be crisp. I just expected it to somewhat work.

We couldn't really get anywhere with it. Nah. But speaking of things that somewhat work, you mentioned you've got a VR headset before we started. Yes, I've got a Vive. It's sitting down right there. I'm not sure if you can see it. It's hanging off the steering wheel there.

That's something I bought from Cashies a little while back. How much did you pay for it? I think I paid like it was a very similar price to an Oculus Quest. Like $600, $700, $800 or something like that.

It was a relatively good price. I didn't want to buy quest because i'm like i don't want to deal with facebook stuff and yeah fair enough i've rarely used that sort of stuff so you know um so i went all right let's see what we've got what options you've got for linux and that sort of stuff two options aside from the quest is um the valve index and the original htc vive they're the ones that work the best right so i'm like well i'm never going to be able to afford a valve index without first making sure i've got a job and stuff like that so i'll just i'll just dish out and see what

secondhand vibes there are so i so i grabbed that thing and it works honestly pretty pretty well all things considered um software is it's not great not great like steam vr has its problems even in windows i mean it's just it's it's honestly pretty nuts with the way that everything's set up if you look at the steam vr for linux um github page right you'll find that it has like 300 open issues at any one time things do get fixed on there and you occasionally see one get marked as closed but it's like the vast majority have been up there for a good amount of time. I understand that Valve probably aren't working on this as much as like a Steam Deck or something like that. Because, you know, that's where the money is.

But it's sort of, it needs, like Valve's side of things honestly needs a bit of help. Especially on the linux thing because linux only exacerbates the issues that are there on windows at this point i'm looking at it right now there are issues here open from 2018 yeah it's it's pretty bad it's it needs a bit more attention than it's currently getting i think if we want to make it truly good. So in the state that it's currently in, what is the experience like? It's smooth enough. There's a lot of features that I'd say are missing. Like just starting up SteamVR and running it, it works.

Right, right. Like provided you are running the beta the steam vr beta don't run the steam vr beta for linux just run steam vr beta itself because steam vr beta for linux is such an old version at this point that it's not even a a good thing so you've got to run the beta the beta is more stable than the stable release okay um once you run that there are a few buttons in the interface that do absolutely nothing because they don't because their functionality isn't there on linux right um like anything that concerns virtual desktop won't work of course yeah um for obvious reasons um and various other situations won't work either i'm trying to remember what they are but they

they come as thing and then you've got amd versus nvidia you run a 20 was it 2070 yes it's a 2070 um yeah i wish i had i wish i could afford a new graphics card at this point in time it will change eventually and i will probably try and go for like a 6900 xt or like a thing when i get the money to do so but it's just a matter of getting the money first so what games do you play with vr uh mainly beat saver i'll be honest fair enough i have jumped into minecraft for vr with vr like using the minecraft xr mod so there's two minecraft uh vr There's Vivecraft, which is the original. And then there's Minecraft XR, which uses the new OpenXR platform instead of the thing.

I did come across a weird issue when trying to run that initially. It doesn't work at all with SteamVR. Okay. Like, you can get it running, but you can't use SteamVR. You have to use Monado, which I found out in general is way more stable than SteamVR for Linux is. But it only supports the XR platform unless you're using, unless you try and use something like Open Composite. Open Composite's there for like, it has the ability to translate open VR to open XR. But it's not perfect.

There's a bunch of stub, a bunch of auto-generated stubs there that need to be filled in, I think. It's always good to see. And with the way Monado is set up, it's sort of like, you've got um different drivers for different headsets right um it has a built-in vive driver but it doesn't use that one it uses the lib survive driver now the lib survive driver handles all communication with a headset directly um and monado just tells it to do certain things. I have noticed one weird thing with two different USB communications platforms that has resulted in some weirdness in terms of releasing the headset so you can switch back to SteamVR when you need to. And there's one issue I really wish wasn't set up like it was, and that's the calibration system. So SteamVR has a really straightforward calibration system.

If anything was the best part of SteamVR, it would be that part. Yeah, I've used it a little bit in my Funnier Uni project. Getting everything working, it was good. It's like, put your head controls on the put your head head controls on the floor that's where the floor is yep trace around the room it's good it's set it works with with lib survive it tries to automate that process uh-huh so what it does is every single time you stop moving your any any tracked object it will record that position and add that to the calibration right the problem is is unless you you start

have the calibration setup started and you do this a little bit before you start playing the games because games generally aren't designed to go is there a new calibration right no there's not or yes there is no they don't do that they go that's the calibration okay i'll use that calibration so they don't update calibration with with the monado drivers if you're playing moving it is if you're playing the game it is if you're playing the game it won't it won't update the calibration so the first time i played minecraft xr because i initially started with the controllers on my desk that's where the floor was right so i was like standing here i'm like why am I three meters tall? And then I realized if I duck down, I can look underneath the blocks,

and I'm suddenly looking through the world. It's like, oh, I have x-ray. Cool. But it was just, it was, this isn't great. Eventually, I realized that you had to, because I didn't realize that was how you calibrated things. I just assumed it would just work. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But no, eventually, I did move it around, put it in certain positions, realized that was how you calibrated things i just assumed it would just work yeah yeah um but no eventually i did move it around put it in certain positions make sure that everything was working and it works there's one other issue that i don't like that i wish it would have and that is an ability to specify where the front is so on steam vr right menus will always put themselves in a specific orientation right right so for me it's this way right um and that makes it so that like in in a space like this which is honestly way too small um i have have a tendency to hit the desk quite a lot when i'm playing it um it makes it possible for me to play something like beat saver right the one time i used open composite

it automatically put the front here because that's where my lighthouse is ah um which made it impossible for me to play, because I suddenly had to walk where the desk was to be in the centre of the area. So I was like, yeah, I'm going to have to just use SteamVR straight up instead of forcing it onto Open Composite and stuff like that. And then there's the fact the fact that proton games on steam vr by default will use steam vr regardless of whether you have another platform running

right so you have to go in there and set like three or four launch options just to make it use something else but it's with xr and vr there's a couple of files in the in your dot files there that specify what platform you're using and it totally ignores that you have to specify that stuff manually if you want to change it for a proton based game i understand valve doing that because you know the generally expected you'd use SteamVR. But overall, apart from those weird issues with calibration and front-facing and all that, Monado is ten times more stable than SteamVR. So, it's a mixed bag any way you look at it. And I generally don't recommend people try it unless unless they're

willing to jump through some hoops and i have heard questionable things about vr only so i'm not too surprised that it's kind of messy um is is the vive your first vr experience have you used an early headset it's my first major one i haven't owned a headset apart from this one this is the first headset i've ever owned yeah um i have gone over a few family members houses and friends houses i think one of my friends he owns a um uh an old oculus oculus cv1 ah nice um and i think i just remember playing dirt rally on that one a little bit and that's really all i played with that one that was pretty entertaining that was one thing that made me want to get vr thing and then i went and my cousin has playstation vr and i tried a few different

experiences for that and that was that was honestly pretty reasonable especially considering the area they had was huge um so but there were some very basic experiences like i think i played i think i played the iron man game in vr right of course on playstation vr that wasn't a that was not a fun experience um but the the shark experience that i had that was pretty entertaining it was you know jump scares and all that sort of stuff but my my first vr experience was all the way back on oculus dk2 so very early days screen door to all hell it was awful to look at

so this was at my high school I think one of the IT guys had bought a headset for himself and the demo he showed us we did the standing up which is a terrible idea don't do this the demo he showed us was one of the rollercoaster demos,

which is not something you do standing up. So I fell over. No, that's an easy kind of thing at the very best. Yeah, yeah. My next VR experience after that was... I think it was first-gen Vive. so it was kind of a big upgrade for me um i thought it was great i i i like vr i don't have a headset right now i probably have the space for it because like this i've got what like this much room that way and this goes back maybe

like another meter or two meters the minimum amount of space you need is two by one metres. Well yeah, I definitely have enough space then. Yeah, I've got like two by one if you count the desk in that. Right, okay. So you just ignore the desk. So yeah, I just play games that

it doesn't matter if you've got the desk there or not because, you know, the play space is... It just works that way. The other VR headset I've tried, I don't remember what it was called, but there are these, like, really cheap VR headsets that are sort of just made for nothing but, like, watching movies. Like the Gear VR and the Google Cardboard and stuff like that? No, cheaper than that. Like, it was like a Philips VR headset or something.

Ooh. It was cheaper than that. It was like a Philips VR headset or something. Ooh. The only reason I had that is because of my final year uni project where it was a VR project. So they lent me a headset to use and they lent me the cheapest thing they had. This thing barely tracked.

So there were occasions where... Because it was internal tracking, but there are occasions where because it was internal tracking but there were occasions where it would stop the tracking so i had it on my head and i would move and the the view i have didn't change and i could use that thing for maybe because i think it was like 30 FPS as well or 30 hertz. And I could use it for maybe 15 20 minutes before I felt like I was going to throw up. Yeah, even with me playing games that are like, you know, you do like

swinging across ropes and all sorts of stuff like that I have to take the headset off a good 10 every 10- 15 minutes. Because I haven't quite done it enough to get my sea legs in that setup. Yeah. Even though I've owned the headset for quite a while. Actually, we really need to recalibrate at the moment.

Because I recently remounted this lighthouse because it was just wedged up by the blind. Because there's a blind right behind my desktop that i don't pull up at all ever and i just wedged it in between the blind so it so it sat there but i had to come up with a new solution because it fell down at one point oh that was dangerous yeah i don't exactly want to drop a hdc vive lighthouse even when you go from cash first generation it's like a little bit harder to get that sort of stuff i mean you can still get it but yeah yeah i'd rather not break it and have to spend the money to buy a new one yeah absolutely at some point i'll i'll get vr stuff and it just, there's so many games out there that I still haven't played

that are just sitting on my list of things that I need to do. Adding more games, I don't need to add more games to that. I do that enough anyway. Yeah, everyone does that. I'm pretty sure I've got a huge list of games that I probably should be playing.

Well, just like my, I don't know if you can see them back here, but I've got a big collection of ps4 games over there and just oh yeah just that is is enough and then i've got my steam library that i haven't played and then occasionally someone will mention a game on the stream like hey you should play this and i'm like okay yeah maybe i should play that and then i get a bunch more games. Ah, crap. Now there's another one. I get that. So besides Minecraft, which I know you play a lot on stream,

what games do you find yourself getting into? I do get into a lot more of the building style games, I would admit. Like Space Engineers is one that I got into recently. And learned that you cannot, under any circumstances, start a dedicated server under Linux. That does not work. Unless you want the shittest performance in the world. But single player works fine. And then there's...

What else is there? I do have on my list of games to play, huh? Bennett Foddy's, uh, thing there. I want to try it. I want to give that one a shot. Um, even though I know for a fact that I will probably end up rage quitting. Um, what else is there I want to play? Like I said, I, I got all the VR games and stuff like that.

That's standard. There's a huge list and a bunch of ones that I really do want to play. It's just unless they come to mind at the moment that I want to play them, I'm not going to end up playing them. Right, right, right.

Just too much other stuff you need to be doing. Just other games that are available to play. Especially if you get into something like Minecraft. Like, yeah, you know, you could just keep playing that and do nothing else. Yes, it's very easy to just go, Screw it, I'm just going to play Minecraft. Which happens probably 80% of the time for me,

which is why I've become basically a Minecraft streamer at this point. It's like, help, I'm trapped in a Minecraft streaming factory, or something like that. I've had a couple of people tell me I should get back into Minecraft, because, you know, as I said, I've checked out the updates every so often. It seems like there's a lot a lot more just even in the vanilla game a lot more stuff to do with it because i i enjoy the building aspect it's just that's not enough by itself to keep me entertained yeah the bet i probably wouldn't wouldn't have stayed on minecraft if i didn't have a server that i would joined regularly right right and stuff like that like i got a bunch of uh streamer friends and

stuff like that and we all join a server and it's it's it's a lot of fun like mess around you know it's it's always fun trying to find us those bloody screeching blocks i can't remember the name of the name of them than they are the ones that in the deep dark you get from the deep dark i don't know what you're saying right now um but yeah people would hide those all around all around my base and i'd log in and go what the shit's that noise especially because i haven't bothered going down to the deep dark where the warden is and all that sort of stuff to grab all that sort of stuff. So I, when I first heard them, I'm like, I've never heard this noise before. What is this?

And it was, it was a whole thing. It was like, oh my gosh. And I went digging and went, what the? Oh, that's that new block. That was my first experience with one of the new blocks. Getting pranked. What a great experience. I, you know, so I had an account very early on. I gave that account to my sister.

But, you know, maybe I can, I don't think she plays on email. Maybe I can just take it back from her. That's an option. It's still attached to my email account. Yeah, well. can just take it back from her that's an option it's still attached to my email account yeah well i mean if you've still if you if you want you can i don't know i said too much other stuff to be doing like way too much other stuff it's a very much a do i want to get into it and if i get into can I, will I end up just doing nothing but that? Yeah.

Yeah. That's, am I willing to do nothing but that? I, I know I've gotten pretty good with sort of dealing with my time. There was, there was a time when I was a lot younger where all of my free time was going to be eaten up by video games or eaten up by anime.

But I feel like as I've gotten a bit older, I've gotten somewhat better at not great. There's still a lot of times I'm just watching stuff on YouTube for no reason. But I've gotten better at sort of putting my time to things that are somewhat useful, whether that's learning guitar that I'm doing now, whether it's learning some japanese whether it's working on videos things like that um you know as as a kid i i played runescape for

seven years so wow yeah um not a great use of my time but it did teach me economics like the reason i don't like spending money now is because i didn't like spending money in runescape i like spending money when i've got it yeah that's always the uh you know the biggest the biggest um how would you say it uh issue biggest blocker i'm i'm very hesitant hesitant to get a credit card because i just know i'm gonna shaft myself with that if I do. It's like, nah, I should stay right away from that.

I think it depends on how... Because I use a credit card basically as a debit card and then I just pay stuff off pretty much straight away. But yeah, if you're worried about just burning through money, that's probably something that's worth worth avoiding at least

temporarily i'd never like the idea of spending money i don't have right it's a bit like nah not for me well yeah i'd rather not that's why i use it as like a debit card i i only spend what i have with it and then it's not really and then it's not really an issue then. Yeah. As long as you remember to pay the bill. Yeah. I mean, honestly, this is one of the reasons why I have all this stuff, was because at the time, I could really only afford to spend $100 or $200 at a time.

So it's like, okay, I need a good microphone. What do I get? Ah, the AT2020 is like 120 bucks perfect all right i need something to i bought that mic i think i bought the mic first but i didn't have an interface i didn't have anything like that to run it so i kept it in a box under my bed until i could afford an interface and then i kept that and then i set that up and then I set that up. And then I'm like, oh, I need a way to control things. All right, let's find something cheap. Oh, look, this $50 secondhand MIDI mixer.

That'll work. Bought that from Cashy's. After hours upon hours of configuring stuff to actually make it work the way you want it to work. Well, my first setup, it was a very iterative experience i started off with a basic setup you know basic noise suppression and whatever else yeah and then the more i learned the more i added to it over time so it was like half an hour here half an hour there just you know add something to it and go i want a reverb button because it's always fun to make my voice echo. And then...

Reverb is funny. Reverb is always funny. Yeah. Indeed. I have a... Well, I have, like, a hardware effect here as well. I don't know... Wait, give me one second. We're going to disable... like a hardware um uh effects here as well i don't know wait we're gonna disable we disable

the filter in obs there we go okay there we go now the noise suppression isn't gonna break it uh what number is it on one yeah one here we go and then i think it should be reverb. Is it? Damn, that was a lot. I need to make mine more. There we go. Now it's more. And it just goes on forever.

I can turn it up. I've got lots of reverb settings on here. I've got lots of settings on here. Wait, where's really fun one but it only works on stereo signal so i can't really show it to you on discord how does this sound oh wow that's pretty warpy i like that one the effects i have on here are like they're made to be guitar effects and like yeah i mean instrument effects that's what most of them are most of the ones i use are pretty similar to that to be honest a vast majority of the lv2 plugins are

like that um i mean and then you've got this stereo uh it's it's changed yeah i'd show you the voice modulation only discord doesn't do stereo audio so I you won't hear anything change Right right right This side this side Which which sides high which sides low yeah, I just have to deal with like I always just ask you whenever I try to use language Am I I think I think high is... Like, max is high-pitched.

Min is low-pitched, but I'm not certain. Yeah, max is high-pitched for me. I don't know if it's the same for you. It could be different for different setups. Was it... Wait, one second. Is this high-pitched? That is higher-pitched than your standard voice.

Okay, yes. So max is high-pitched then. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Audio. Audio is fun. Yeah, indeed. Do you have your license?

My driver's license? Yes, I do. It is sitting here right in my wallet. Don't fucking show your driver's license. I was about to get it out. I'm like, wait, what am I doing drive license i was about to get it out i wait what am i doing no i the reason i'm covering the i'm next minute i'm covering the identity side of things so you can see that see the picture and see how stoned i look because every single photo i ever take for id makes me look stoned i don't know why my um my original license i had long hair

so it went down like half with halfway down my back so that was fun uh but the reason i brought that up is a um a funny thing i saw yesterday so you know at a t-junction where there'll be like a left turn the right turn and then you like two like in this case it was two lanes um so i i was coming back to my place and I saw this crash happen. Now I say crash with like, you know, a big asterisk there. Cause they'll go on,

they'll go on maybe five Ks an hour. Um, so one person was stopped on like the left side. And then this dude in a ute came over and like clipped with the door and tore that car's like front bumper off at like five k's an hour and he got out of the car it's like how did that happen i don't understand it's like what are you doing like how could like the car was stopped there like why did you try to pull into that lane what are you doing he probably didn't have very good like surround like awareness

of his own surroundings by the sound of it it's just a bit like yes but like when he when he checked like where it hit on his car he was was, like, looking towards, like, the back where the tray was. He's like, mate, your door has a giant dent in it. Like, why are you looking there? Look at the big hole. Some people are fucking stupid. Oh, even I can be stupid sometimes. I've had a point where I accidentally reversed into a tree.

That was a bit unfortunate. How did you manage that one? I was reversing out of the driveway and just happened to be at the exact right angle for the tree to be right behind me. And I pedaled it too hard a little bit and... Boink. Oops. Dad was not very happy about that. I pedaled it too hard a little bit and... Bonk! Oops! Dad was not very happy about that. The wagon's now got a huge dent and he did not like that.

I've not had a crash myself, but I still have damage on my car. I don't... Still don't know how it happened, but my mirror now is held on with duct tape. Ah, yes. So I came out to to my i think someone might have walked past it and like bashed it or something because i came out to my car and it was just hanging there by like the the wire inside of it to like control it um so yeah that's that's fun it's always always fun to deal with nonsense like that i think the worst thing that i have ever done

in a um actually one of the worst things i've ever done driving was back when i owned my little tiny blue festiva ah it's not a fiesta but it was a little manual 1.3 liter festiva with like um it and i remember driving down the hill near my house a little bit too fast because it's it's a really windy hill and you know really fun and i may have taken a corner a little bit too fast popped both front tires bent one of the steel rims and nearly destroyed a donation bin. Just to top it off. That was not my proudest moment there. Oh, I hope not. Yeah, no, it was, yeah.

And the worst part about it was there was a bunch of old people up the street who were watching the whole thing. And it was like, Oh God. Cause now they're watching me limp the car into the car park or the shopping center nearby. It's like, like doing the drive of shame, limping the car down the,

down the driveway. It's like, it's so bad. Oh, what did I do that for? I honestly, I'm surprised.'ve like my car's survived as long as it has because everyone who gets in my car is like brody you're such a terrible driver like because i look i take roundabouts as fast as my car will let me take them

oh it's fun no you can't deny speed is fun speed is fun. Speed is fun. Yeah, speed is fun. Just take that completely out of context. Gotta go faster, take the race line. Exactly. If you've ever listened to that song, they're words to live by. What is that song? It's Mighty Car Mods' song DJ Rodnock, I think they put under the pseudonym of that that's it's a

really it's like eurobeat although i don't know why they debate it um but yeah it's it's it's pretty entertaining at some point i'm supposed to be getting rid of the current car i've got uh so right now i'm driving a 2001 barina a hatchback lovely i mean could be worse at least it's not a holden cruze but i'm getting rid of it uh for a 2013 uh impresa oh it's it's not a okay it's not like you know the nice sporty impresas it's not the wrx no no that that would be fun no it's one of the like uh you know take the kids to school impresas ah yeah which you know it's look it's still gonna be nice on the car i've got right now because it's it's it doesn't drive too well it's got a flat spot so sometimes it doesn't go forward which is a problem especially you know on highways and stuff at least you won't have to worry anywhere near as much about head

gasket failure because it's not got a turbo in it yeah but that being said it will probably still happen eventually but yeah turbos are fun. The head gasket is a big thing in those cars, what I've heard. I know literally nothing about cars. My car knowledge is basically to the extent

of, like, I can change my headlights, which you know, better than nothing. My uncle's a mechanic so i was a bit there um i mess around with cars and like i said i watch i watch mighty car mods on youtube sometimes not as much as i used to though i'll admit i've kind of gone away from that scene um but i've always wanted to get like an m-5 or like a, like, like a relatively small sporty car just because, you know, I like taking corners and what better car to take corners in.

That reminds me of my sister's first car. Um, she, she's admitted this after the fact that the reason she bought this car is there was some boys around her that she wanted to impress um so her first car was this bright red mx5 and it was the biggest disaster that you've ever seen oh is it one of the pop-up headlights models i believe it was yes Yes, she chose right. But like a month after she got it, the gearbox shot itself. It's probably because she bought it from some dude who absolutely ragged on it on the track or something like that. Because those things are track ponies.

You've got to be willing to understand that something's going to break on it eventually when you get something like that. The worst part is, is the first generation, which is the one with the pop-up headlights, has gotten exponentially more expensive. Like, I remember back when I first thought of getting one, they were around about two to three grand. Yeah. Now, you can't find one under 10 grand. It's like, nope. You've got to be willing to pay for it now.

Because so many people have just destroyed them. That reminds me of all of the fucking Holden prices that went up after the factory shut down. I know people that have these shitbox 2006 Commodores, and it's like, this car should be worth $1, like, shitbox, like, you know, 2006 Commodores, and it's like, this car should be worth, like, $1,000, and it's, like, 10 grand. This is a piece of junk. You've thrashed it to all hell, but it's now an antique,

and it's now, like, a rare car. Like a VX, VY, or VT model with a frickin' 3800 and L27, whatever it is. Absolutely no power, but at least the engine's going to last forever. Depending on, you know, who's driving it. Well, yeah. The way I drive, probably not. My first car was a Commodore.

It was an old 1992 Commodore. That was a fun boat. That think had more body roll more body roll than like i don't know a lot of cars that one yeah it's just like old school i remember i stuck some big like 17 inch mag wheels on it like from a newer commodore and it looks so stupid i wish i could have like i got the mag booze someone a friend of mine gave them to me i'm just like i'll stick those on why not they're better than the hubcaps that i've currently got um so i put that on there put some cheap ass tires on it because they were wanted one to the one to the

literal cords um and um i drove that thing around that was a pig it was an absolute pig the only thing that was good about it was the aftermarket stereo right right because i could i stuck a subwoofer in it and yeah it's just yeah let's go for it let's just stick a sub in it yeah half those cars like at this point you know before the factory shut down now they're fucking relics when the factory is open most of the time the fucking stereos cost more than the car yeah although no one wants to go for the fucking stereos cost more than the car. Yeah. Although no one wants to go for the stock stereos in those things. It's all aftermarket.

Absolutely. I knew someone who they didn't have a boot anymore. The boot was all stereo. Oh wow, gone full show pony. Yup. It was fucking loud, but you know, it was fun.

I remember a few years back, I went to the, what was it? The Adelaide Auto Show. And mate, it was like walking back to the 2000s. There was a fricking van in there with a stripper pole in it and everything it was it was like holy shit what is this oh did i step back in time i all like old like jdm like shit boxes with like gaudy ass paint jobs and it's like walking into into like a into the booth that's into the show car booth at sema or something like that it's just like i didn't know this was a thing still well i don't i'm not into like into cars myself but i can definitely appreciate like

some of the stuff that people have done to their cars like absolutely there's there's something impressive even knowing nothing about what's going on yeah even for the show ponies you've got to appreciate the dedication that stuff is like i would never do that to a car i own but props to you for for going with your heart and putting something like that on you know you got all the sex spec show cars and all the all the like you know neons and the other crap like that you see. It's just like, not my style, but props to you for going for it. Absolutely. It's just like, and then you see the track cars and all that sort of stuff with all the big ass turbos and the things like that. And you go, I just want to go in and ride shotgun and that sort of thing.

Just to feel my head get crushed against the back of the seat one of my um one of my i think it was my step yeah one of my one of my stepbrothers yeah uh has a uh a burnout car and goes to burnout comps and if anyone listening hasn't been to a burnout comp, go to one they are fun they're a lot of fun

very old fashioned values but yeah very fun especially if you're going to like although I've heard they've recently been cracking down on a lot of the stuff that used to happen at like um summonats and all that sort of stuff yeah yeah yeah um like you used to you used to see videos of some of summonats and i think they had a um a big it was a big thing they had a thing where it was skids or tits or something like that where you either get your girlfriend to flash them or you do a massive skid and it's like oh god it's so bad but yeah like yeah i see it's just bunch of dudes doing dude stuff yeah and being really kind of not caring about things not caring if you're fucking burning through hundreds of dollars of ties you don't give a shit about anything yeah

it's it's it's it's true it's it's the only thing more bogan fest than something like summer gnats would be something like a uh ute muster or something like that from like the outback like you hear about that stuff all the time and it's just the same it's like wow i don't know how long we were talking about car stuff and i don't care about car stuff but somehow it happened it's it. It's entertaining to talk to sometimes. You know what? Just because I want to talk about this existing, I mentioned the

Master Chief thing to you before we started. I know a lot of people who may not have seen this yet. I'll send you the article. Okay. 343 refused to reveal what Master Chief's suit does with

all the cum. What the hell? Oh no. You might be curious about why we're talking about Master Chief's cum. We can confirm that Master Chief's suit jacks him off. That much is indeed canon.

But we unfortunately are not ready at this time to reveal what the suit does with the cum. Explained 343 Industries founder, Bonnie Ross. What the hell? You know, a lot of people aren't happy about the state that uh halo infinite's in so how do you get people to forget about that talk about cum about cum stuff like this doesn't matter at all to, like, the general game itself.

But, you know, a lot of people enjoy stupid tidbits like this. Like, someone told me in my stream earlier what Mickey Mouse's actual name is. Mickey Mouse's legal name. Where was it? What's this quote? Hold hold on he left a quote quote there's a quote in here how the suit maintains a cum what it does with the cum after receiving it from john 117 and what temperature the suit needs to be to maintain the cum at in fact i feel like i've already said too much i don't want to give the impression that the suit keeps the cum at. In fact, I feel like I've already said too much. I don't want to give the impression that the suit keeps the cum at all.

It's just constantly... It just sort of leaks out of the pant leg or something like that. Out of the bottom of the shoes. I just got an idea. Obviously, having, you know, a metal suit that is like... You've got to make sure it's lubricated. Otherwise, it's going to have issues moving around. I was thinking maybe they weren't, maybe they're using, maybe it keeps the cum, stores it for a clone so that they can clone Master Chief when he dies or something like that.

And that's how they get more of those guys. Someone was, I think someone in the comments was saying it powers the suit. Powers the suit. Oh oh this is so stupid stinky also the Mickey Mouse thing Mickey Mouse's full legal name is Michael Theodore Mouse that's an interesting tidbit

but yeah things like this don't matter at all to the game. But it's... I think HexDSL is the one who mentioned this to me. Especially in sci-fi series, you'll see just random things thrown in. So in the books that he's writing, he mentioned that in one of the universes created,

golf doesn't exist. It doesn't matter at all to the series in like a grand scheme of things, but you just throw something out there and then people will latch onto that as if it matters to some like greater extent. But the only purpose it's here is to sort of, I don't know,

be this weird, interesting thing that someone out there is possibly going to care about. Yeah, it's like the story of how golf was invented in The Lord of the Rings or something like that. I think it was like they were in a battle or something like that and one hobbit knocked off a the head of a of of an enemy and it went down a wombat hole or like a fox hole or something like that and as a result they won the battle and invented golf at the same time how a hobbit invented the game of golf in the lord of the

rings what the yeah it's just an interesting That was actually mentioned in the book. I got the book up there in my bookshelf. I've never actually read or watched Lord of the Rings. What?

This is going to make it even worse. The only part of the Lord of the Rings I've watched is The Hobbit. Oh my gosh. That's, wow. I've never thought I'd hear the day where someone's only watched The Hobbit. Well, it's the same thing with Star Wars, actually. So I've never seen...

You've seen the prequels and not the sequels? No. Or you've seen the new ones and not the... No. No? No. Or you've seen the new ones and not the... No. No? No. I don't even know what the movie was called. There was a side movie that didn't even matter.

Ah, yeah, the only... Is this one? Yeah. This is the only Star Wars movie I've seen. Oh no. Caravan of Courage and Ewok Adventure. It's like a Hamish and Andy skit or something like that. It doesn't matter at all, like even remotely, but somehow that's the only one that I've seen.

Have you at least seen, like, the Star Wars robot chicken shorts or something? Okay, I've seen some of the Clone Wars animated series. So there is that. Okay, that works. And my knowledge of the mainline Star Wars is entirely from Lego Star Wars. Oh my. You disappoint me. My cousin's obsessed with Lego Star Wars.

He gets every single Lego Star Wars game. What even is the... The last time I saw anything about the Lego games, there was like some Marvel games. I don't remember. There's all sorts of different things. List of Lego video games. It's massive, I'm pretty sure.

The most recent one was Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga. A lot of them sound like they might be rehashes of old Lego Star Wars games. Yeah. That one almost sounds like it might be rehashes of old Lego Star Wars games. Yeah. That one almost sounds like it might be one of those HD remakes or something like that. But I remember going over my cousin's house multiple times

and he would be sitting there playing Lego Star Wars on the GBA. Yeah. I think the last time I played a Lego game, it was Lego Star Wars. I think it was back on the PS2. So I played the original Lego Star Wars games. I still have my PS2 set up sitting over there. Do you?

Yeah, it is. It's permanently set up. Still works. I got rid of my... There was a Lego Incredibles game? What the fuck that sounds pretty incredible I

sadly got rid of all of my old consoles I wish I'd kept them well not got rid of necessarily like my PS3 I gave to my sister and she got rid of it the PS2 I got rid of

I think I might have been one of those people who traded my ps2 into eb games when i bought a ps3 oh i could have ended up with yours then very good because mine was pre-owned from eb games no it's not it's a fat ah i think i prefer the fats anyway i want to get one of those hard drive cards, the network cards for the FAT. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just so I can plug a hard drive into it, like a SATA hard drive into it,

because I've got a bunch of spare SATA hard drives on my bookshelf just down behind me. They're all like one terabyte Western Digital Caviar greens. I don't... Something about that makes me believe it's not going to work on your PS2. Well, you could get SATA converters for it and stuff like that. So they're standard. They're like, I think they might be a proprietary connector, but it's technically the IDE protocol. Right, but I don't know. I'm not 100% certain.

I don't know what it would do with that much storage. And there are aftermarket systems to set things up. But the only reason I want to do that is to set up the jailbreak for the PS2. Just so I can mess with it. Because they have an absolute lot of interesting stuff for that oh yeah well the ps2 is when did the ps2 actually come out it came out years ago i i got it well after it was over like i think the ps3 was out when i first got my ps2 yeah yeah well yeah after all this

sorry which i think is one of the reasons why it was pre-owned it was on the tail end of EB Games still stocking it it was still being produced until 2013 wow like 6 years after the PS3 came out just goes to show you how good it was

mmm but yeah there's a I wouldn't be surprised a lot of homebrew stuff for the ps2 yeah emulators and all sorts of crazy stuff but i remember watching old videos on how to do it um i think i got my ps2 i think it was like i was like seven or so So it would have been around like 2005 or so. So maybe like a year or so before the PS3 came out. And then I got my PS3 towards the end of the PS, towards the end of that life cycle,

towards when the PS4 was coming out. And I'm probably going to buy a PS5, like, you know, when the next generation's been announced. It's like living in r slash late stage capitalism where everything's like living in r slash late stage capitalism where everything's like late well the the best part about doing it is you know when you buy a console early a lot of the time you're sort of waiting for games to play yeah but you buy it at the end like everything's here it might be harder to find some things but yeah now with you know online shopping it's

not a big deal although if i want to find some games now for now with you know online shopping it's not a big deal although if i want to find some games now for that sort of stuff well yeah if you want all those prices make me sweat yeah honestly i'm i i'm honestly more surprised at things that shouldn't be expensive like i saw expensive vita games like there was for a game that's not even popular it was a copy of east memories of celceta for like 70 dollars at akashi's like you can buy this game new on steam for ten dollars yeah i remember the other day i went to kashi's modbry and just looked around like the kashi's at modbry that one's got like the freaking arcade machine at the front and oh yeah i have at the current moment they have an old like new inbox unopened

sega mega drive for like 1200 it's like holy shit like never been, you can just tell it's brand new. It's like, that's awesome, too bad I've already got one of those. Oh, you have a Mega Drive as well? Well, it's technically my dad's, but yeah, there's a Mega Drive in a box outside. What console, if you just categorise all the consoles you have, what do you have in your house right now?

It's a very eclectic mix of mostly older stuff, so there's a Mega Drive, there's a Super Nintendo, there's a very eclectic mix of mostly older stuff so there's a mega drive there's a super nintendo there's a nintendo 64 big nintendo things can you tell um i've got personally i own a playstation 2 i have a nintendo ds although i need to replace it because the cartridge slot's buggered um and there's a nintendo wii in the um lounge no and that's set up do people actually still use it in there or is it just sitting in there it's just sitting there it doesn't get used very often i think the last thing i did with it was secretly jailbreak it despite the fact that like i had to do it and no one was home because dad if dad saw me doing it he'd be like no don't do that

you will damage it yeah he's not into doing that sort of stuff like that's illegal no it's not illegal because i'm not actually installing games to it i'm just want to see what's in the homebrew menu i i should i sometimes i like to go to like a cashier's run just to go around between the stores to see what fun stuff there is. Modbury is a great... Actually, Modbury and... I spent like three hours in that store. Yeah, it's... Just browsing.

You can spend a ton of time there. Fuck, I forgot what the other store that was really good was. The online store. Sorry? I mean, that's obvious. The online store. Oh, yeah, obviously. Can't be bothered going out.

No. It was a bit further... It's not Pros... No, definitely not Pros... Is it Hampstead? Not Hampstead, is it? No, it's not Hampstead Gardens. Fuck, which store was...

There's one close to the city that's really, really good. Which side of the city? Was it? It's north side. North side, okay, so no. But it wouldn't be the one I'm thinking. Wait, is it Hampstead Gardens I'm thinking of? No, maybe it's Hampstead Gardens.

Actually, it might be Hampstead Gardens. Either way, both of them are great stores. Actually, I'll show you something fun I got from Akashi's once that I completely unexpectedly got from one. It's always fun to see this. Actually, wait. Just get Saturday figures. That's pretty cool nice yeah someone had um someone had dumped off like 10 anime figures at store and i think a lot of them are still it was modbry yeah a lot yeah a lot of them are still at modbry yeah they're still there's a

massive collection of them now like i think it's probably gotten bigger there's not 10 there there's like like nearly 100 there i think at this point no they're all super cheap yeah yeah and to be honest i think most of them are pop figures which makes sense i don't give a shit about the pop figures every one of the stores has a lot of pop figures yeah it's just cheap whatever you can get them at any place you want just you know head down the plaza or head into the city or any eb games zing pop culture and you found like 500 of them i totally get that like new in box consoles can get expensive now but you know it really bothers me when i see things

that i know were super mass produced and it's like hey you want to pay a hundred dollars for a fucking a mario game like no no i don't want to do that yeah nah it is a bit annoying it's like nah it's like oh i have something here that I bought online a while ago. This thing was worth way too much for this thing. I paid way too much for this. Get a load of this. Driver San Francisco, the PC edition. That was like 200 bucks.

I paid way too much for that, and I've only played it once. Firstly, why did you pay $200 for it? I don't know. It was a spur-of-the-moment thing. I probably shouldn't have done it. I see why you don't want a credit card. Yes. Oh my god.

That's insane. That was something I never should have bought, but I'm in some ways glad I've got, because it's still worth a lot of money and the only sad part is Ubisoft are being a pain because they released that notification regarding Driver San Francisco

I can't remember what it was it was all the Assassin's Creed games and there was something about Driver San Francisco thrown in there as well because if you I'm not sure if you remember watching the YouTube video Creed's games, and there was something about Driver San Francisco thrown in there as well. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Because if you... I'm not sure if you remember watching the YouTube video about that game, and how cool it was, and stuff like that. That's what made me want to get it.

Yeah. But Ubisoft relatively recently, a few months back now, said something about shutting something about it down, or removing it from the store or something like that or making it harder to download i'm guessing i don't care i own a physical coffee i i'm guessing that you're talking about is the uh the best ubisoft uh the best game

ubisoft won't let you play yeah that's the one yeah okay that's the one that's the that's the one there you can buy it from like you can still buy it for real cheap like digital copies from like g2a and shit like that of course yeah but i don't really want to support those guys so yeah i've had uh a couple of you know sponsorship emails from some g2a is like the cream of the crop of the questionable kiwi sellers but i've had some like very clearly hey we've stolen some keys yeah it's like this does not seem safe yeah it's like some chinese kiwi seller site and like no i'm not touching this because like it's one thing when you buy keys from a different region and then sell them in america that's that's fine i you can argue about whether

that's you know morally okay legally okay i'm not a i don't really mind that the issue i have is when you get into the really sketchy sites then you start getting into like stolen um gift cards things like that yeah like credit card fraud and all that stuff yeah and you're taking a risk with buying anything from any of those sites because if someone issues a charge back those keys could end up being revoked and it's just like you've now lost out on the money and you've got no game to show for it yeah yeah it's it's you're better honestly you're better off pirating than than using those sites yeah that like that's an argument i've actually made with our emulation i i don't know how you feel about emulation but for me if the game is still in production so like it's a current generation game uh let's say um i don't know the newest pokemon game like pokemon scarlet and violet so a game

like that i i don't think you should pirate it i think if you're going to emulate it and i think if you want to emulate it that's fine but when it's a current generation game in production i think you should buy it like if you can support the development i think that's what you should do but when something isn't in production like i went back and played um shimogami tensei 3 for the ps2 that game was not in production and i could buy a second-hand copy but i don't like you're not supporting the development if you're buying that all you're doing is supporting like the the second-hand game market that's that's like that's where i stand

with it if emulation's fine but i prefer to buy at least buy it if i can buy it like new like new game yeah if the price isn't way out of this world for what you're getting and like if it's not like if you can't get it anymore or something like that then maybe you might be a bit more justified in pirating but otherwise yeah I think I agree with you there where support the developer, unless there are obvious reasons not to support the developer or something like that. Like, one thing I'm doing right now

is I'm streaming through The World Ends With You. This is, like, the DS version of the game. Like, you can't buy new DS games. Like, that's not a thing. No. So I don't see any moral issue with you know emulating that no and yeah i mean it's still a good thing to support the secondhand market we're not saying don't do that no yeah um like it's it's still a thing that need that can exist and sometimes it is nice having physical copies and stuff like that.

Yeah, sure. But at the same time, yeah. I've never been a big focus on like playing old games on hardware. I know a lot of people like, you know, they want to have the Mega Drive experience. They want to have an old TV. They want to have that physical Mega Drive there. want to have an old tv they want to have that physical mega drive there you know i i get that it makes sense but for me i sort of like

i like to take that game and then see what you can get out of it because like you can emulate uh a ds game for example and then upscale it to 4k and it looks really crisp because especially like the um the pixel art games like they look like a you know modern indie game would yeah it's i do i still really like emulation don't get me wrong like i said i used to play emulators on on school computers all the time way back back then running puppy linux and all that sort of stuff so i uh it's it's it's it's still a good thing to emulate and all that sort of stuff granted i did own a copy of um um super mario 64 which is basically all i ever played back then um but you know because they don't sell it anymore i probably would have pirated it and

to be honest the version i have is technically the us version and we don't run the us version here so we got the pal eu version i think it is you or a i don't know yeah one of those versions um so am i technically in the wrong for that? Like playing a different region game? I don't know. It's, it's. Yeah. That's one of those areas.

That's always been kind of weird. Like tech, like legally, technically. Yes. But if let's say for example, that you, you lived in the U S and then you bought a,

uh, I guess, uh, PS2 PS2 was regional. Yeah. Uh, I guess, PS2. PS2 was region locked, yeah? I think so. Yeah, I know. I know PS1 definitely was though, wasn't it? They probably both were.

Yeah. Anyway, let's just say the PS2 is region locked. Let's say you bought a PS2 while you were in the US. And then you moved to another region like Australia. then you move to another region like Australia. If you then were to keep playing those US games, technically you're in the wrong region, but it's not a big deal.

But it's not illegal. It's not illegal, no. You technically bought it, and you technically have all the hardware to play it, and it works, and there's no legal problems with that one. I don't even think Nintendo could say anything about that. Well or sony or yeah yeah or whoever you're talking about um but even if you like in like importing system like you're still it's like you're buying new like when it was new hardware so you import a new ps2 from the us you import or like japanese consoles this was a big

one actually because a lot of yeah um japanese games back then didn't get translated so you import a japanese system and japanese games technically you're breaking that region restriction but it's not a big deal and then if you were to remove the region lock like you have a cracked ps2 you remove the region locking on that you're sort of achieving the same goal but you are technically breaking that like region locking yeah breaking region region locking is a weird world of legal loopholes and whatever else well yes it's sort of the same mess you see nowadays with um streaming like netflix when you have like you know yeah you're you know technically you don't have a license to watch um i don't know let's say mr robot for example

i don't think mr robot is on australian netflix but it is on i think us netflix or something and technically you know vpn into that region and watching it like that is, you know, you're breaking the license, but it's not a big deal. Yeah, region locking is just a pain in the butt. It is, it's dumb. Yeah. And I get why they did it, because different regions have different currencies and therefore pricing and demographics and all that are different.

But at the same time, in a global economy like the one we have today, not looking at the direction it's going, of course, it's sort of like there's not really any necessity to do it you see it in some ways in handheld consoles because almost no handheld consoles have region locking like the ds never had it i don't know it never had it the nintendo ds never had region locking um i'm not sure if the ds the 3ds had it but i know the original ds never had it you could you can buy them those games from anywhere and put them in any console and it will still work yeah so base ds wasn't 3ds was yeah which means you could still play any base ds game in any 3ds you just couldn't play any 3ds game in any 3ds so there was just there was one legitimate reason for the region locking and that was the difference between 50 hertz and 60 hertz regions yeah and no well i played um played one of the Sonic games on the PS2. And if you put it into the wrong, like, Hertz mode, it would be in black and white. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It was sort of some consoles had the capability of doing both, others didn't. Especially newer consoles like Nintendo Wii and all that sort of stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. Once you get to that of stuff those ones always had the ability to do both they just only stuck to one generically and nowadays it's not really an issue anyway no it's it's sort of a non-issue especially what with 1080p and everything basically standardizing as a result of the global economy and all that sort of stuff. It's just, it's big whatever, really.

And most TVs are capable of both anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, on that note, it's pretty much time to end off the show. We've been going for almost two hours now. Yeesh. Well, let the people know where they can find you I have a twitter account

though I admittedly don't check it I have a discord as well you can get that through my twitch account there's a command you can use to let that pop up or just go down the description there and click it they're the primary ways you can use to just let that pop up or just go down the description there and click it. And they're the primary ways you can,

you can reach me. Um, I don't think there are any other ways. So you've got an Instagram list here. I don't know if you actually use it. Oh yeah. There's an Instagram there too. I checked that on occasion.

Yeah. I really should upload more to it, but I, yeah, I've been last time I posted on my Instagram was maybe like a year ago. Yeah. Well, anything else you want to mention? No.

I don't think so. Okay. As for me, my main channel is Brody Robertson. I do Linux videos six days a week there. A gaming channel is Brody Robertson Plays. I stream twice a week. I'm playing through Cult of the Lamb and The World Ends With You. And if you're listening to the audio version of this,

the video version is available over on the YouTube at Tech Over Tea. And if you're watching the video version, the audio version is available basically anywhere you can find a podcast. There's an RSS feed. So, you know, go and have a listen to that if you want to go and do so. It's only 4pm and I feel very tired right now. Yeah, I need another coffee.

I've been sipping on a dare this entire time. Oh yeah, I had a coffee beforehand. I'll give you the final word what do you want to say um anything ever some reason the word penis just popped into my head I don't know why just penis I don't get his game best game oh my gosh well I'll catch you guys later