Tech Over Tea - Linux, Gaming, Tech & Other Nonsense | Solo
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Good morning, good day, and good evening.
I am as always your host, Rudy Robertson, and this is episode one hundred and seventy-five,
I think that number is correct, of Tech of a T.
And today, we are doing another solo episode.
What I'm thinking of maybe doing is like rotating back and forth forth so we have a solo and then like two or three guest
episodes then a solo then guests and just keeping it up like that because as i've said before
i really do enjoy doing the solo episodes because i don't have to worry about what anybody i bring
on the show is interested in like it would be kind of weird to bring some guest on, like, um, uh, Alan Pope, Popey, or, like, Matthew Miller, or someone like that, and then start talking about something that they have absolutely no interest in.
I could, like, run the topics by them, be like, hey, you want to talk about this gaming stuff. But when it's just like, I want to go and go down some stupid tangent
that nobody in their right mind would actually be interested in,
uh, the solo episode seems like a good place to do that.
One thing that other people might be interested in, but probably won't be,
is this article I blog, whatever you want to call it, I found the other day.
That is not showing up.
That was showing Hacker News for some reason.
I booted Linux 292,612 times by Richard W.M. Jones, not Richard Stallman,
because that would be really cool.
And it only took 21 hours.
You're probably thinking, why would anybody in their right mind actually go and do this?
Like, what purpose is there to booting Linux 292,000 times?
Well, the reason they did it is to address a bug.
So apparently there is a bug with the Linux kernel 6.4 where it hangs on boot.
Linux kernel hangs rarely when booting on the latest QEMU.
I don't know if this happens on...
Does it happen on hardware?
It seems like this is specifically just a virtual machine problem.
Which is good.
And it's probably a big part of the reason why nobody has been talking about this like
this would be a pretty serious problem if regular the hair on my microphone uh if regular people
were having this problem also the reason why no one's reporting it is it only happens roughly
one every thousand boots and apparently rarer if you're using Intel hardware for some reason.
Computers are weird.
Like computers are just weird.
Why is it rare with Intel hardware?
I don't know.
Like it would make sense if it didn't happen full stop with Intel hardware.
But the fact that it still happens but less often.
I don't know.
It's surprising to me that no one has noticed this.
It's not surprising to me.
But it certainly did because of our NBD kit tests,
which use libguestfs.
Are you linking to the projects?
Yes, you are.
So NBD, this is an NBD server.
What the fuck is an NBD server?
Network block device, I see. And then libguestFS is a set of tools for accessing and modifying virtual machine disk images.
Oh, okay. This is just a thing for
working with VMs. That actually makes sense.
But I did this because our NBD tests which which use libguestfs, were randomly hanging.
Always at the same place, early in booting the libguestfs QEMU appliance.
Freeing SMP alternatives, memory at 48k, and that is just where it stops.
So to bisect this, I had to run a guestfish in a loop until it either hangs or doesn't.
How many times?
I chose 10,000 tests as a good threshold. To make it easier,
I wrote a test harness.
This is- ah, this link to the actual test- bootbootboot.c, what a great name for the test harness.
Which uses up to eight threads and parses the output to detect the hang. After a painful bisection between
6.0 and 6.4 RC6, I wonder why they went with those versions. Maybe, I would presume this is
the last version they knew worked well, so it seemed like a sensible place to start.
Which took many days, I found the culprit. A regression in the printk time feature.
That would be on here. This is the Linux kernel mailing list. Recent kernels hang rarely when booted on QEMU.
Usually you need to boot hundreds or thousands of times to see the hang compared to
292,612 successful boots boots which I was able to do before
the problematic commit.
So to prove it, I booted this many times before the faulty commit successfully and then after
failed after a thousand boots.
Like, this is one of those problems, right? Where you get a tiny little issue and rather than being like, oh, computers are weird. I'm just going to go about my day. You take this as like a personal insult, an insult against your family and your entire legacy. And you're like, I am going to fix this problem if it is the last thing I do. For me, when I have a problem like, you know,
I boot my system and Pipewire for some reason doesn't start up,
I don't go out of my way to be like,
I'm going to work out why this happened.
I'm going to spend like 21 hours, as the person said,
trying to bisect, not just bisect,
21 hours is just the reboots.
The bisect, not just bisect, 21 hours of the reboots, the bisecting took multiple days,
just to find this tiny issue that I could fix by just booting again, and the problem
wouldn't be there. And judging by what he said, nobody else has taken the problem as like,
serious enough to report it, or at least doesn't even realize that it's an actual serious problem.
Because, you know know if your system hangs
Most people aren't gonna like try to track down the bug. They're just gonna say oh the system hanged or the system hung I guess and
then
Rebooted especially if you're running it in QEMU like if you're running in QEMU
It's like it's it's so easy to just restart it back up again
I is not even a legitimate concern that most people would have.
Really the only way you would notice this in a way that would be like a legitimate problem.
Is if you're running it in some sort of corporate environment.
Where for some reason or another you're doing relatively frequent VM reboots.
I don't know what that use case would be,
but whatever
that use case is, is something this person
either really
needed, or
was just crazy enough to go out of the way to actually
fix it. But hey,
I'm glad that it's been
fixed. Right now, this is an
open issue in QEMU.
Let's see what's going on
on the kernel.
There should be a thread here.
Is there not a thread? Does no one care about...
Oh, here we go. I was just on the wrong
site. I'm not used to using
lkml.org. I usually use another
website.
Oh, here we go.
Boston. Let's see. what do they have to say.
TLDR, I'm adding this report to the list of tracked Linux kernel regressions. Oh, they're just saying
it's a regression. Thanks for the report. To be sure the issue doesn't fall
through the cracks unnoticed, I'm adding it to the regs bot, the Linux kernel
regression tracking bot. This is no regression. This is your fix.
It was fixed already. You want to clarify? Wait, what?
It feels like they're having a discussion with themselves.
I'm confused here. I'll have a look at this properly if I go and do a video on this, but
the main point here is this person is crazy and the kernel
But the main point here is this person is crazy, and the kernel is better because of crazy people like this.
Whether it's fixing this issue or any of the other issues out there,
there are so many things that people just spend a ridiculous amount of time on just trying to make it work,
and it's the only reason the FOSS space can actually function.
If everybody was just a normal, average person who was like, yeah, all right, a couple of commits here and there, nothing would get done.
Like, we need those absolutely insane people who put in way too much work.
But speaking of putting in way too much work,
did you guys see, this is probably from a couple of weeks ago,
as you're watching this, Debbie and Gnu Herd 2023 released.
Every time I see an article like this,
I'm always reminded that Gnu Herd exists. Like, I always forget that Gnu Herd is a thing
that people actually thought at one point in time was going to be the free software kernel,
it was going to be the thing that powered the whole free software world.
So, GNU Herd's been around for quite a while now. When was it first released?
1990.
So...
It was at a really, really, really bad time.
So, 1990. Now for context, Linux was 1991. When GNU Herd came out
initially, there was a lot of interest behind it. Like if you go check out threads, like even
threads from Linus back then, like everyone who was involved in that space was like, you know,
one day we'll all be
running the GNU Herd kernel and we'll have our free software system, all that fun stuff. But
Linux came along and Linux just had, I guess it had more development to it, had more,
it also didn't hurt that like Linus is a isn't linus is a really interesting character
he had this thing that he made as like a you know basically just to learn 8386 that's literally the
reason why he initially made it and then people actually liked it and he got sort of a lot of
recognition in the the minix usenet by basically arguing with the creator
of Minix and telling him he's a fucking moron
pretty much, while the creator of Minix
was telling Linus he was a fucking
moron. And from
this, it built up a lot of
notoriety with the
project, and it seemed like
what was needed
at the time was already there
in Linux. And I think Linus traditionally said that like, what was needed at the time was already there in Linux, and I think
Linus traditionally said that
like,
he would have been entirely fine
if everything shifted towards
GNU, there's a quote that I can't
find right now, but he was saying, like, early
on that he would have been fine with everything just going
the GNU Herd way, and
I think Stallman,
I think Stallman said that Linux is most of the way there towards
what GNU Herd was going to be, and that's why GNU worked closely with Linux in those
early days to get the actual user space available.
Because Linux had that really good kernel early on,
but GNU had that really good user space.
So while GNU could certainly go and do their own thing,
and maybe if that was the thing that got really developed at the time, that would be what we're using today.
But it seemed like a better use of time
to sort of merge those efforts together
and then focus on the parts that are
actually important but gnu herd never never went away and like you'll you'll go to reddit if is
this one open yep this one's back nope this one's not back wow they're actually they're actually
doing the protest uh right now as i'm recording this this is during the middle of the the reddit protests
i'll talk about those in a bit because where we are right now is a fucking disaster um but
where was i going with the gnu herd um
i don't remember you do heard the problem it has nowadays is why would someone want to go and put that effort into GNU Herd?
Like, it made sense to put effort into Linux in those early days
because there wasn't a, not just free software,
but a free operating system that was good.
Like, you had a lot of the Unixes's out there and they were good in their own right
but a lot of them had these giant price tags attached to them and
no one wants to go and use
if you're in this space, no one's to go and use like whatever Microsoft is producing. No one cared about what Apple was producing
they wanted something that was actually free software, but
in the 90s there was that interest there nowadays
though it's like okay i can choose to put my effort into linux this thing that is proven is used in
industry is used on the desktop or i could put effort into gnu herd this project that hasn't
really gotten anywhere in 33 years it has a little bit of hardware support but not really anything
genuinely productive. Why would I do that? Like, why- if I want to go do that I'm going to go work
on like OpenBSD or FreeBSD. I know that the BSD guys are gonna be like, oh no, BSD is great. Yes,
BSD is certainly in a much better state in a much, much
better state than
GNU Herd is. That's for goddamn sure.
But I should do a video
on GNU Herd, sort of talking about
why GNU
Herd never really
picked up, never really
made that progress and
yeah,
I've been meaning to do so at some
point it's just a matter of actually going
and actually um
making it
from my understanding the guys who
work on GNU Herd now are
primarily people who were involved in
Debian and that's why there's the whole Debian
GNU Herd thing where I believe
it's something like
is it the entire what is it here we go on Pharonix so Debian GNU Herd is currently available for i3d6
and can build around 65% of the Debian archive which you know isn't great but it's better than nothing. Like, you could run Debian on certain
certain things.
Um,
mainly virtual machines, because unless
you want to go track down some
hardware it's actually going to work on,
you know, you might be,
you might not get much luck.
I think the problem that
GNU Herd would have nowadays,
though, like, okay, imagine this, right?
Imagine if rather than Linux, we were down the GNU Herd route. I don't think much would really
change because I don't think if we went and used a different kernel, it would make NVIDIA release
open source drivers, like at the same level that AMD has.
Now, NVIDIA is working on some stuff.
They're making things more open.
But right now, 2023, the best way to run NVIDIA on Linux
is using the proprietary drivers.
I don't think that would be any different.
I think you would still have basically the exact same thing
where you rely a lot on proprietary modules.
It's just that the core of the system is completely free software,
which I can't imagine the Free Software Foundation would be very happy with.
And unlike Linux, I would imagine a lot of those modules probably wouldn't get shipped with the kernel.
They'd probably be very much down to the
the distro level to actually address, which would make things a little bit less convenient.
I've heard that GNU Herd is like better security wise and better design wise and all that,
but I think the important thing with with these projects
is one of them actually exists and one of them is actually functional on on a modern system so it
doesn't really matter which one is better design like this was an idea back in the 90s with
monolithic versus micro kernels a lot of the operating system researchers a lot of the operating system developers people like that
were all on this idea that micro kernels were the future the problem is at that point there
had never really been a massive like there are certainly micro kernels that existed
but like microsoft hadn't even tried to touch micro kernels yet when they did that was the like
Windows NT was the the shining beacon for the micro kernel supporters and then Windows NT came
out and it wasn't a micro kernel it was a hybrid kernel which mixes the functionality of a micro
kernel and a monolithic kernel together so instead of having all of your drivers in kernel space, you have
some of them in kernel space, some of them in user space, and then you have an
API layer or an ABI, whatever you want to call it, so those drivers in user space
can connect to the kernel. But at the time people were thinking it's gonna be
a microkernel. All of the drivers are going to be running user space. You can reboot all of them separately, and it's going to all just work
perfectly. But that just never happened. The point I was getting at there was, even if something is
technically a better design, which it's arguable whether microkernels actually were. Even if something
is a better design, what matters in the end is what do you actually have that works?
Like, say, for example, you're considering buying a car, okay? I like doing car analogies,
and I don't know fucking anything about cars, but follow along with me. So, let's say, for example, there is the option of buying a, I don't know, a 2010 Honda Civic, okay?
Or, at the exact same price, you could buy a Ferrari, okay?
Like, whatever Ferrari, whatever, like, just whatever nice car you want.
Like, some really fancy sports car, but it doesn't have an engine, okay?
This is a really bad analogy.
Why do you watch this show?
I don't understand.
So, let's say they're the exact same price.
Whilst, you know, a functioning, super nice, exotic sports car would be great,
it doesn't work.
So it doesn't matter.
Sure, you could get a shell and then build up the engine,
build everything out and make it this really nice thing.
But it doesn't matter because here's this car over here that already works.
So which one seemed like the better idea to go with? I know which one I would choose. Maybe some of you guys would go with the
other one because you like building out extra things and you like spending that time and all
that stuff. But I can see where most people would go. And it's pretty evident where most people would
go when you look at the state of Linux pretty much. And not just in the, you know, the developers on
the kernel, the developers external to the kernel
who develop things with linux in mind like drivers and proton and all this stuff
actually that's one thing i would find very curious imagine if gnu herd was the thing that
everybody was talking about i wonder if Valve ever would have gotten involved
in this space and had like, let's just say Wine got developed. Where was Wine from actually?
I would imagine Wine was, did Wine exist before Linux? Was Wine made specifically for Linux?
I don't actually remember.
I'm pretty sure it is made initially for Linux,
but there's a lot of this old software which has
existed for way too long.
Yeah, it was made in 1993. It was made after Linux
came out. But I guess there is the
FreeBSD version as well.
Yeah, okay. It was first designed
to run Windows applications on Linux.
The only reason I was confused there is like
there are these weird projects like
sudo, for example. Like sudo you think
of as a Linux application.
But sudo has been around
like way longer.
I think since like 80-something.
Linux, sudo,
Wikipedia. Wikipedia, give me a date. Linux pseudo Wikipedia Wikipedia
give me a date
around 1980
it doesn't have an exact date
so this weird software
which you would think
is Linux
but it's not
right
I forgot where I was going with that
where I was going
is in the...
I want to say early...
When did the Steam Machines come out?
Because around that time, that's when Valve started getting...
Started getting, like, really involved in the Linux gaming space.
2014.
Maybe a couple of years before that, they started talking about it
and discussing whether it's a good idea.
Imagine if we got to a state where we have Linux gaming like we have today, but it was instead on
GNU Herd. I can't imagine the FSF would be very happy about that, because the primary use case
for, I guess, GNU Herd would be gaming for a lot of people. And you have the Steam Deck that comes
out, and then it's running GNU Herd.
And then you have people who don't even know
what free software is.
All they know is they have a handheld computer
that is playing games.
I could only imagine the FSF would be fucking pissed at that.
Because this isn't some special use case,
like medical software, where they do make exceptions.
This is just entertainment.
The games should be open source.
The game should be free software, not open source.
The game should be free software.
The software running the game should be free software.
I guess that part technically is the case.
If you count some of the reverse engineering efforts in Wine to be free software,
it gets weird when you start talking about that.
I guess it's like API stuff,
but that's a matter for lawyers to deal with.
I think that would be, like,
I think it would be a far more interesting time.
Like, as it stands, most people have just accepted
that if you're going to game on Linux,
you just game on Linux.
Like, runs Proton, whatever.
Runs native, whatever.
But I'm sure there would be a lot more
weird discussion to be had there if it was on GNU Herd. Maybe there wouldn't be. Maybe it would still
be in a state where everyone's just like, you know, free software, that's a cool thing, but like, FOSS
is where it's at. Which is pretty much where, like, people say like, open source has corrupted or open source has taken over the free software movement but
it's more like it's taken over or it's shifted everything away from
from copyleft like a lot of the the free software discussion now is i guess focused around MIT and BSD style licenses, which is not what the core of free software was,
where it was GPL, it was copyleft.
But it also being in this more,
I guess, more open state, this more open source-y state,
it allows a lot more people to be involved in this space
while still getting a
lot of the
desires that were wanted from free software. Not necessarily the
sending things back upstream and you know all that stuff, not being able to go proprietary and all that stuff, but
still most of the way there.
I know a lot of you just are not happy with the state of it
and would want everything to be free software.
I would like things to go down that free software path as well.
But it's just, it's really hard to change the direction of an entire industry,
especially when having that support from people outside of the free software space
has been kind of massive for
getting things like Linux actually adopted. Not just Linux, but like more open software that's
just things that are not proprietary. Like what's a good example? Is Bitwarden GPL? What is Bitwarden?
Is Bitwarden GPL?
What is Bitwarden?
Bitwarden GitHub.
I should have picked something that I knew the license of.
Bitwarden Server.
That is... That is...
That is...
That is...
Oh, that was a bad example because it's using a GPL, okay, that just is free software,
okay, fucking hell, um, but there's a lot of stuff out there that we're never gonna go, like,
full-on GPL, like, take, for example, what Microsoft does Microsoft does like Microsoft was never gonna start releasing a
bunch of things like VS code for example, I'm pretty sure VS code is
MIT I'm pretty sure
VS code I've said it before I'll say it again. I need a Jamie
I need someone who can just search for things for me. Yeah, VS Code is MIT.
Like, Microsoft was never going to release
GPLv3
VS Code. Like, that was just not going to happen.
But, they will release
it under MIT, and that is
still part of this whole
this whole FOSS
sort of ecosystem
in a sense.
Not in the truest sense, but in a sense nonetheless.
But I guess that's enough on going in circles about free software. I want to talk about
where we are at right now with the Reddit blackouts. Maybe things have changed completely by the time
you guys are hearing this, but as I'm talking about this, basically everything is a fucking
mess. So, this is like a day after the initial 48 hours happened. Um, if we go to red dark, let's see how many subs are still dark. Uh, where is,
where's the number? Large counter. Okay. So, right now, 5,447 are still dark, but you can see right
here what's, uh, what's, what's, what's going's what's going on gone public gone public
here's this one went private this one went restricted NZ gone wild I love it
public public public public what mostly stuff going public when I when I was
looking at this last night I think I I'm pretty sure we're at like 70...
When I started looking at it, we're at like 7,400. So in the past day, we've dropped 2,000.
I guess the best place to start, right, is who in their right fucking mind, honestly, who in their right mind thought that a 48-hour boycott,
a boycott with an end date, was going to have any sort of change?
I know there was that whole thing where the Reddit front page went down
because Reddit had so many things that were going offline, Reddit didn't know what to do.
Like, that didn't matter.
I think Reddit went down for like like, a couple hours, um,
Reddit down, I'll see if I can find it, uh, Reddit, where is it, Reddit, I'm seeing more
about the Reddit, um, going dark, Reddit homepage broke, I think, that was it,
broke. I think that was it. Now I'm finding ancient stories. Anyway, not the point. There was a bunch of people saying that Reddit broke for a couple of hours because so many subs were
going offline that the, like, the website just didn't know what to do. So everything just sort
of collapsed. People saw that as, like, this weird victory. I don't know why. Like, imagine this,
that as like this weird victory. I don't know why. Like, imagine this, for example. Imagine you're protesting, you're protesting a, you're protesting the Amazon warehouse, okay? You're
an Amazon worker, and you go on strike, okay? But not everyone goes on strike. There's still a
couple of people there that decide to keep working. You go on strike and there's not enough people to keep things running.
And they decide, we're just going to shut things down for the rest of the day.
Like it's, you know, normally people would clock off at like five o'clock.
But, you know, it's like three o'clock now and there's not enough people to get things running.
So let's just shut down early.
Let's just shut down for two hours.
And then like the protest sees this as a victory like we defeated them
They shut down for two hours
It's like no you didn't achieve anything like what about all of your goals? What about the whole API pricing stuff?
None of that. I don't know why anyone saw that as any sort of victory like that wasn't a victory
That was just some technical issues
but the whole 48 hours thing, like the 48 hours thing was...
I don't know why anyone thought that that was gonna change anything. I really don't, okay?
And the CEO knew this as well. I'll go- I'll get to the CEO thing as well, because the CEO
basically were just mocking them.
And like, this is gonna
just pass, this is gonna be nothing, I'm gonna show you this, uh, this subreddit has been going
public and restricted a bunch, just because they wanted to appear, uh, appear on the live stream,
um, so, 48 hours is basically nothing, 48 hours is a weekend.
If you shut down...
They had like 90% of Reddit shut down for two days.
Give or take because of time zones.
So some started early, some started late.
So the early ones opened back up.
That's what's happening right now, basically.
That's not enough time to cause any sort of legitimate effect to the company, because the CEO pretty much just said,
we're just going to weather this. Like, this is an article from The Verge. So, Reddit CEO tells
employees that subreddit blackout will pass. He did say i'm sorry to say this but please be
mindful wearing reddit gear in public uh some folks are really upset and don't want you to be
the and we don't want you to be the object of their frustrations this is fairly like fairly
normal like don't be don't try to get involved in the real world because of the company you work
and i think this is a totally fair statement um you probably shouldn't wear red get involved in the real world because of the company you work at. I think this is a totally fair statement.
You probably shouldn't wear Reddit gear in public anyway.
You're just going to get bullied just full stop, regardless of whether you work there.
Just don't do that.
But what he said specifically is there's a lot of noise with this one.
I was trying to make it bigger so you guys can see it. There's a lot of noise with this one. I was trying to make it bigger so you guys can see it.
There's a lot of noise with this one.
Among the noisiest we've seen,
please know that our teams are on it.
And like all blobs on Reddit,
this one will pass as well.
Which right now is what I'm in the middle of watching.
It's still 61% of Reddit,
which is still massive.
But I'm curious to see
where this is going to be
in like another day or so.
So the problem with 48 hours
is right now,
they still haven't done
all the going public stuff.
Like that part is really big.
If they, instead of doing it now now did it as the company was going
public and that would affect their like public offering that would be a little bit different
maybe then they would make some changes but if they do this now and then open back up then by
the time the public offering happens like everything's, that's old news, that doesn't matter anymore, and good luck actually arranging any sort of new protests. This is the other problem, if you go 48 hours and then
decide, oh, we actually want to go longer, now you have to, like, rearrange going longer with these
other subs, and it's just a giant nightmare to, to get any of that done. What should have been done from the start is we are going to go- we're gonna go dark until everything is fixed.
If that was done, that would have actually had some sort of effect.
You can't have a boycott with an end date. The company knows what they need to deal with.
They know how long they need to wait it out and waiting out 48 hours literally doesn't matter.
Literally does not matter at all
now there were rumors um reddit admin force public subreddit
uh so there are rumors going around i don't think they've been corroborated.
I've not looked
enough into them
of
subreddits having
the moderators removed by
Reddit admins and then
the Reddit admins forcing the subreddit
back open.
All this is, is just posts on Mastodon, posts on Twitter.
I've not looked enough into this to really say if this is actually what happened.
But it's certainly a rumor going around.
Look, I wouldn't be surprised if the Reddit admins were doing it. But let's just say they are doing it, right?
That right there should be enough for regular people to say,
this platform is run fucking horribly.
Like, actually leave the platform.
But people are saying because this this whole reddit admin
forcing things open thing was happening that you just shouldn't even bother with the protest because
if you process long enough then they'll just force everything open like
why did you even start then like if like you knew that was always a possibility honestly what they should have done
isn't just like gone private i would have been like it would have been funny if they were just
fucking deleted it just yeet it and delete it just don't even consider bringing it back that i think
would have had a lot more of effect because yes those subreddits can be rebuilt over time.
But it's going to take quite a while to bring them back to the state they were actually...
They were actually...
And also, with this subreddit that people were talking about, like, it went...
Some mod was removed.
Apparently, this mod was removed.
But that subreddit's now gone private again.
Which means, I don't know, the story with
admins removing stuff is
I don't know.
That person could have just been removed for some
other reason, and then
and then it's just being
sort of
brought back in
trying to, like, merge the story together.
Honestly, like, no matter what you say about, like, Reddit at this point,
everyone's going to agree.
Like, any bad thing you say about Reddit and Reddit staff
and Reddit administration,
people are just going to run with it.
Like, because Reddit right now is the bad guy.
And they should be the bad guy.
Like, don't get me wrong.
While I'm saying the way the Reddit protest is being handled
is a fucking disaster,
I'm not saying Reddit's good in this.
Reddit is definitely the bad guy,
but the Reddit moderators
are just handling this protest fucking terribly.
Like, absolutely horribly.
And wasting such a good opportunity
to actually fix something.
I want the API pricing to be cheaper.
That's another thing, right?
There's a lot of people that
don't understand what's actually going on
because there's been a lot of kind of bad reporting on this.
There's a lot of people who are like,
oh, well, why would they make the API free?
They've got to pay for the API somehow.
And yes, they do.
No one's asking for the API to be free.
Anyone who is, is an idiot and doesn't really understand
how a company should be run.
We've tried free APIs in the past.
They went very badly.
Companies lost a lot of money.
Yahoo being one of them.
People are asking for the API to not be as expensive as the pricing they're currently offering is.
Because it's just going to pretty much kill third-party applications many of which
are very accessibility heavy i know there has been some stuff from reddit saying that they're willing
to make a pass on accessibility focused applications but then it gets really weird like
how do you define a a reddit app that's focused on accessibility?
If it has better accessibility than the main reddit app, is that an accessibility focused app?
In which case, most of the reddit apps are accessibility focused because the main reddit app is garbage.
It's just pure garbage and you shouldn't use it.
So, that would be like a case-by-case basis,
but what if you made a new app then?
Could you sign up for their accessibility thing?
Could you say your accessibility and not have to pay?
Like, that needs then some sort of moderation
to decide what is part of that category.
So it just seems like kind of a mess.
What they'll probably end up doing is,
I'm surprised they didn't already do this,
take the biggest applications,
the ones that are the most noisy, like Apollo,
and just give them a cheaper API price,
or grandfather them in or do something
and then everyone else, you can now pay the full price
because that would take all of the teeth out of the protest.
Yes, they wouldn't make as much money off of Apollo.
Totally fair.
But if you just give Apollo what they want,
because Apollo is the main driving force behind the interest in the protest.
If initially they just said, okay, we will give you what you want.
Nothing.
They wouldn't even have to deal with any of the backlash whatsoever.
Oh, speaking of the backlash though, this is the other reason my 48 hours is dumb.
Because if you say 48 hours
There's gonna be a spike in traffic during that period because people like oh, let's actually check out reddit
Is it actually down are these subreddits down or this subreddit is not down? Let's go post on that one
Say hey guys, why are you not down like during this period?
I
Wouldn't be surprised if reddit had higher traffic than, because people who wouldn't normally be using Reddit,
in this case, probably were.
I do wonder if they had an increase in signups and things like that.
Also, there's been a lot of noise about people being like,
I'm deleting my account, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
I'm very curious to see what the numbers look like on their side,
because I
would guess, right, I could be wrong here, but I would guess the protests only helped them.
That would be my initial assumption. I can't see any way that it would hurt them. It firstly
wouldn't hurt them in any real sense, but I couldn't really see any way it hurts them
sense, but I couldn't really see any way it hurts them even just in a tiny, tiny little speck of a sense.
It seems like one of those cases where it just, it just is objectively favorable for
them to have that 48 hour protest and just, you know, see what they get from it, I guess.
know, see what they get from it, I guess, now, it's not like it's all bad, so, one thing I did see is r slash gaming is basically run by a bunch of losers, um, as you should probably not be surprised,
so, they had a post here saying
r slash gaming is public.
I downloaded it.
I don't know why a bunch of people upvoted it.
They had a post about it being public.
They deleted this post.
Now, in this post,
everyone was basically saying,
shut it down.
Shut it down.
Close it.
Why is this open?
What are you doing?
Like,
there are a couple of people here saying or maybe you know
Maybe just don't even worry about I can't even find them now because there are so few people even saying that most people here Just like stay dark. What are you doing? Why are you so stupid as you can see right now? It's not dark
They'd lead to this because they say. We appear to be being brigaded.
Now what brigaded means.
Is they had a lot of messages saying.
Shut it down.
So they actually made another one.
This one isn't pinned.
This one was pinned at the top of the subreddit.
This one.
After this one had 1600 upvotes.
They had another one. That now has zero upvotes.
Gaming is now public.
Over the past 48 hours, r slash gaming participated in the Reddit wide blackout in protest of the API pricing changes.
Over these 48 hours, the behavior of the Reddit admins has been disappointing.
Admin has been stepping in and allegedly removing moderators and forcing closed subreddits open. This is unclear whether it's actually true. To keep their revenue coming
in. The revenue would not fucking stop. And the Reddit CEO has dismissed the Redditor's concerns,
saying it will all blow over. It literally has. You are open right now. The mod team here has
considered keeping the subreddit private to continue the protest, but we said we would close for 48 hours and we did. Therefore, we need to go public to hear your
comments and discussion points. We as moderators are internally discussing further actions amongst
ourselves. However, we will be influenced if there is a strong message coming from the sub.
In the meantime, we apologize for the disruption, but hope you guys understand the situation
reddit admins are placing their users in. Edit, this is
part two of our feedback post. The first one
was being brigaded. Hopefully, this one
won't be as much. And everyone
is still saying, close it down.
Why the fuck are you open? What
are you doing? Why are you people
a bunch of losers? Why are Reddit
mods being Reddit mods?
Like, everyone in here
is just saying, shut it down. Like, in here is just saying shut it down like
why are you why are you open and this was 20 hours ago. Like why? I don't
understand and I've had a bunch of people tell me right I've had a bunch of people
come to me and say oh a lot of these subs are opening so they can ask for
feedback on whether they should or shouldn't go public.
Don't ask for feedback. Just stay private. Just keep the protest going because that's the only thing that makes sense. You don't need to go public to ask to shut down again when you're
going to shut down again because everyone is telling you to shut down. Just stay shut down
and you skip a step. Like, I don't know why it's so complicated for these people. Is it because everyone who is using this, all these Reddit mods are addicted to Reddit.
And they can't go, you know, a week or two weeks without their favorite subreddit being open.
Is that it?
I don't know.
Maybe it is.
It probably is.
Like, honestly.
But like, it's such a fucking mess.
And I hope that by the time you guys are seeing this,
things have changed.
Maybe things are better.
Maybe, you know,
subs are actually staying down.
I don't know.
But as it stands,
it doesn't seem like that's the direction we're going.
Now,
I want to be fair here.
There are a lot of subreddits that aren't a bunch of losers, okay?
There are some subreddits like r slash ore, r slash music, r slash videos, r slash futurology,
all of which have committed to being private indefinitely.
Okay, this is good. And these are
massive subreddits.
But this is not enough.
Because what's gonna happen
is if other subreddits don't go down,
then there's still a reason to keep using Reddit.
And if other subreddits exist
that are in a similar category, like there's gonna be
other music-like
subreddits.
They're going to have a bunch of people joining them
because if you're addicted to Reddit,
you're going to just keep using it somewhere else.
Like, no one's attached to r slash music or r slash videos.
They're attached to the concept of using Reddit
and posting music and posting videos.
So it is a good thing these subreddits are staying down.
But with other subreddits coming back up,
and I think on here they say,
is it 300?
Yeah, 300 plus that are committed to being private indefinitely.
And that's great.
That's great.
But that's not 8,000.
That's a couple of subreddits and I don't know how many of them are actually big because these are the ones they list as
big subreddits there are other subs in here that are much much smaller that are
also committed to being down adult color r slash hematology. Like, a lot of these are definitely gonna stay down,
for sure. But I don't think it's gonna have that much of an effect if only, like, if it only ends
up being, like, a thousand subreddits that are down. Like, I don't know, man. I think, I think
this is just gonna go nowhere. The other thing about this is, um, there are subreddits that don't know, man. I think this is just going to go nowhere. The other thing about this is
there are subreddits that don't want to stay down forever
because they have a reason they want to keep existing.
Like r slash stop drinking
represent a valuable resource for a community in need
and the urgency of getting used from the ongoing Ukraine war
obviously outweighs any of these concerns.
For such communities, we are strongly
encouraging a new kind of participation,
a weekly gesture on
Touch Grass Tuesday.
So basically, this would be
like a weekly one-day blackout,
which is
the most
useless thing I could ever imagine.
Like, genuinely.
If you blackout one day a week,
all you are doing is inconveniencing your users.
You're not showing Reddit anything.
They will just calculate in this subreddit going down once a week
in their profit margins, and you're like,
okay, well, let's just ignore that.
We just count that as a loss and then go on.
Like, that's not going to some massive massive hurt. There's gonna be a lot of subreddits that likely go
down this route and maybe like black out once a week as like a show of solidarity.
Show of solidarity doesn't mean anything, it just means I'm too lazy to actually do
anything and it's not even like you have to do anything in this case. It like the
in this case all you have to do is actually do not even like you have to do anything in this case. In this case, all you have to do
is actually do nothing. All you
have to do is just go private and do
something else.
Just not use Reddit
for a couple of weeks, and maybe
maybe
something will change. I don't expect
it to change. Like, even if they do go, like,
a month, I would be very surprised if
anything actually changed. It seems like Reddit is
it seems like Reddit is
pretty hard fast on
going down this route. Like, this is
what they're gonna do, and
nothing is gonna change.
Yeah.
But, you know, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
Ugh. The fun thing about all of this though,
separate from Reddit mods being Reddit mods,
is this whole protest did show
how heavily centralised a lot of the internet is.
Because for a lot of people,
the idea of a forum is a subreddit, like,
subreddits are forums, forums are subreddits, and there were articles that came out, like, this one,
and this is a separate thing, I'll talk about this as well, um, there were a bunch of articles that
came out being, like, a lot of the, the web is broken, because you can't get to Reddit. Because, you know, if you search for, like, how to fix something, some random, I don't know, Linux feature, some random thing about cars.
Like, you know, is this a good gun or whatever you want to search for.
A lot of the time, like, the first or second result is going to be Reddit with a bunch of different suggestions for Reddit.
And most people don't really scroll past
those first couple of suggestions like when the um the the protest first started I was in the middle
of um planning out videos for the week so usually what I'll do at the start of the week is I would
go to you know go to r slash linux, go to things like that,
and search for things that people are talking about.
Because usually, if people are talking about it on the Linux subreddit,
it's usually a reasonable baseline of interest in a topic.
It's not necessarily like one-to-one.
Like if I talk about something popular on the subreddit, it's going to be a good video.
But it works well enough as like a guide.
Because if something is popular there, it usually has some level of interest in the community.
Especially if I can adjust it in a way to focus on some part that's not being addressed or maybe correct some misunderstanding
the community seems to have things like that but a lot of the time it's also just random things that
nobody seems to care about like occasionally people will post their like random projects
there they'll post blog posts from 20 years ago things that. And that stuff usually doesn't get a ton of attention,
but I can typically structure it in a way that is going to make it kind of a
functional video on YouTube, at least in the style that I tend to do for my videos.
But during that period, like, it just didn't work. And when I was doing research for topics that I'd already found,
a lot of the things that I was doing research for would send me to a Reddit post.
Like, when I was doing...
What did I talk about?
Or what did I plan out this week?
Let me find some of the videos.
Um... some of the videos. Um, oh, I planned out a video
on how Linux
took over Unix.
And when I was planning that out,
a lot of the resources, you know, it's going to be
a lot of opinion stuff, and it's going to be a lot of forum stuff.
And when it's a lot of forum stuff,
what forums do people actually
use? They use Reddit. So,
I, for some of the stuff, I had to go through archives and things like that.
Like archive.org does great work.
And I'm so, so happy they exist.
But what this does show is just how centralized a lot of the web is on these very small platforms.
The article I was going to show you that I thought was something else was earlier this week, there was also an Amazon US East outage,
and this broke a lot of things.
In this case, McDonald's and Taco Bell.
But I can imagine there were a lot, a lot of US East,
a lot of US East people that just couldn't really
do anything. I spent like, imagine your entire business operates out of US East and then it's
just like, well, I don't know. Um, I guess, I guess, you know, I guess we're just not working today.
Like, your entire business is, like, a web-based business, and you just cannot access your servers.
Like, AWS is super convenient, and people love, people love how easy it is to scale to ridiculous sizes.
Like, Netflix, for example. Netflix operates off of AWS, at least, I'm pretty sure it is to scale to ridiculous sizes. Like Netflix, for example. Netflix operates off of AWS, at least
pretty sure it is. It was a couple of years ago. I don't know if it still is. I can't imagine they would have changed.
But like you can run something Netflix off of AWS, or you could run like your random little blog that has
20 people that view it. Like you can scale between these different sizes,
and it's so easy. The problem, though, is everything is running on Amazon. So if Amazon
has a problem, they don't just have a problem. Everybody has a problem. But the other problem
with AWS is there are these AWS resellers where, you know, a lot of the server providers out there are not their own
separate thing. Like, Linode is their own separate thing. They have their own separate infrastructure.
Google has their own separate thing. They have their own separate infrastructure. Amazon is
their own separate thing. They have their own separate infrastructure. But there are these
smaller companies where they will buy server space from these companies and then resell it.
Maybe they'll buy it in bulk and then get a discount and they can sell it at a reasonable price.
Maybe they'll sell it at a markup, but then also have some extra additions like support or whatever they want to offer.
Maybe some better UI stuff to make it easier to quickly like one click set up your service,
things like that. So it's not just when Amazon goes down, Amazon goes down, all of those things
that are attached to Amazon, the balls of Amazon, as this gesture might show you, um,
all of those go down as well.
you, um, all of those go down as well, which is great, apparently there are also issues with, uh,
Delta Airline, let's see if we can find other stuff that went down, like, the other thing with, um,
like, a region like US East going down is, sometimes you won't have the entire,
you won't have an entire company go down, but you're usually going to have servers in those different regions.
So, you might have a part of a company causing completely out, and then you have to reroute traffic around the place.
Yeah, it's kind of a mess.
US East Lambda 1 outage caused issues globally. uh do we have any other, here we go
Webflow, Chatbase, Cloud
wait, I don't know what any of those
are, uh
Associated Press
Delta, the Delta Airlines
uh, Crunchyroll, Barclays
Goodreads
uh, DCU Center, don't know what that is
Decent XYZ, know what that is.
A lot of the stuff I actually don't recognize.
But, like, basically,
shit was fucked.
Because everything is going to operate
out of that system.
Like, the idea of the cloud is...
The idea of the cloud is really cool.
It's like, you know,
you can manage your web presence without needing any sort
of physical infrastructure that's pretty much what cloud means like send things out into the ether
and it just magically works but when it goes wrong when it goes wrong it's a serious problem
like most of the time it's it's a lot easier than managing your own infrastructure.
But. The but is very big.
But, you know.
Oh man.
So,
before I get into something actually not this i want to i want to show you something
oh it's on my phone because i don't want to bring it up on my computer um i made the mistake of
making an account on quora um quora if you don't know somehow speaking of websites that
sort of do everything quora is one of those question and answer websites.
People will be like,
hey, what is this?
What is at the top of Quora right now?
My 12-year-old daughter wants to have a sleepover
with several of her friends.
I am a single father.
What precautions should I set in place?
Okay, fair enough. What was the extreme of what was the extreme deserving about the last century what?
That was way to phrase that. How can you spot a programmer who's trained as a mathematician? You know just like normal
normal totally normal questions. Now, I made the mistake of making a Quora account. And when
you make a Quora account, they will
send you emails on
questions that are
that are sort of
floating through the
platform. Things in
what they call the Quora
Digest.
Now, some of these are
some of these are
Some of these are relatively reasonable
Let's see we can find
Cora
So why is Linux more popular as a server than Windows. Fair enough.
Why is Linux better than Windows for servers?
Why is Linux commonly used on servers?
Why should a person use Linux
if there is a viable alternative like
Windows and it is even more
popular? Why isn't Linux as popular
as Windows? See, all of this stuff
totally normal. Like, that's like
you get that one, you're like,
okay, whatever, I get it. Now, sometimes, instead of that one you're like okay, whatever I get it now sometimes instead of that Korra is like hey
So we're gonna send you just fucking
Weird weird weird ones so
Why is Zelda so thick in Breath of the Wild I
so thick in Breath of the Wild?
I committed the unforgivable sin.
I am 12 years old.
What should I do?
I am hopeless.
And then randomly,
if Mercedes and BMW are unreliable,
why do they still not improve to be like Toyota?
Why does Google despise Node.js?
Okay, that one's reasonable.
Is Unix still being developed?
Here we go. Now we get back to the crackhead ones.
My teenager removed the baby monitor from his room. What should I do?
And then back to
Why is 127.0.0.1 used for localhost. Does anyone know why that number was chosen?
That's actually a really interesting one.
I might have to do a video on that.
Back to the crackheads.
My husband gives our 16-year-old daughter bare private spanking in front of her brother as punishment.
Is this the best punishment for her?
She gets really embarrassed, which means it's working.
Are mathematicians normal people?
I used the F word to my professor,
wanting her to change my 55 for the course to an 85,
because I did not think cheating on a math test is a big deal.
She changed my course grade to a 25 now.
How can I get my grade up?
Oh, that sounds like a shit teacher they graded you
based on you insulting them
um
firstly you were wrong for insulting them
uh to try to get a better grade
but you're not gonna get a better grade
by insulting them um
and it's not just that
like that's just one of them
I caught my son sleeping
without my permission.
How should I punish him?
Um...
If a girl declines my sexual advances
but still continues to be friends with me,
is she just not ready?
I am confused. She keeps giving me mixed signals like sending me romantic songs and sitting close to me
Okay, here's another good one why did NASA leave astronauts behind when they left the moon?
Why didn't they take them back to Earth with them?
My ex-boyfriend is blatantly rubbing his new girl in my face, and it hurts like hell.
What should I do?
I just found out my 11-year-old daughter got pregnant by a 13-year-old boy she was friends with at her middle school. She got her period a couple of months ago. What do I do?
I think we have one more in here. I had another one. I think I might have deleted that email because
There was one in here I saw about
Yeah, it's not in here anymore. There was one in here that was like, I caught my son playing the Xbox after 12 o'clock.
I broke it.
How do I convince him that it is his fault for me breaking it?
Any more just ridiculous ones in here?
Okay, this one's deserved.
My husband found my Tinder profile
and now wants to divorce me.
What do I do?
Not have a Tinder profile
while you're in a relationship.
Do professors of computer science ever regret not going for a high-paying job in industry?
No, they're professors because they weren't good enough for working in industry.
Oh, here we go.
This is another fun one.
My 15-year-old daughter got a B in class today.
I took her phone, laptop, TV, bedroom door, bed, pillows, and blankets away for two weeks.
Should I have done more?
I don't know.
Like, some of these ones, I'm like, are these real?
And some of these ones, I'm like, wait.
Then I remember, um, what was it?
Yahoo Answers?
Is that what it was called? Yahoo Answers? Is that what it was called?
Yahoo Answers from years ago?
Yeah, yeah,
Yahoo Answers. Sadly shut down
in 2021.
But this had just as many
just absolutely
insane questions
on it.
I don't use Quora on like a, a day-to-day basis.
Like, if I happen to get...
It's much like Reddit,
where if I happen to, like, get a link that sends me to Quora,
I'm like, oh, that's cool, I'll just go to Quora.
I don't go...
I'm not one of those people who go into Quora
to answer questions or ask questions.
But when I made that account years ago,
they just send these through, and every so often,
every so often, they're just absolutely insane, there's one other in here, um,
there's one other in here, let's see if there's any more just insane questions, um,
Insane questions.
How can I ask Bill Gates for 4% shares of Microsoft for me as an employee?
Alright then.
Yeah. Go ask Bill Gates for shares of Microsoft.
That's surely going to go well.
Why are Indian software engineers so horrible?
What the fuck are these questions?
Like, what the fuck are these questions?
I don't understand.
Oh, man, if you want some fun, just make a Quora account and just see what ends up being sent your way.
Because half the time, it's going to be
pure nonsense
and look at a bare minimum you'll get at least a little bit of a laugh from it.
You're probably never going to use the site any productive way
but maybe it'll be some fun and you know what fun is all that matters in the end.
Um
Speaking of fun Twitter has a lawsuit coming their way.
Twitter sued 250 million by music publishers over massive copyright
infringement. So Twitter is like YouTube and like Twitch and like all of these other platforms that have media on them.
Where in the early days, you know, you could get away with posting whatever you wanted on YouTube.
Like you could post, like I remember the days when there was anime music videos with just, you know, Eminem music and all of this other music which the labels are not very happy with
But YouTube at the time was so small that it just didn't really matter
Like one of my favorite runescape music videos. I wonder if it's still around
Oh I should know it might have been EMPscape
But look at RSMV Paralyzer wonder if it's still around
Is this it? If I look up RSMV Paralyzer, I wonder if it's still around.
Is this it?
There were probably a bunch of others.
Paralyzer by Finger Eleven was certainly a very popular song with the edgy teenagers of the time.
Very, very popular song. I'm surprised these are still around, to be honest.
If I play this.
Yep, that has music still going.
That's definitely still music going.
But there was a lot more of this in the early days.
Nowadays, the videos typically stay up,
but end up being either muted
or all of the revenue that would have been made from the video is sent into
the you know the the company that owns the music now twitter also has the same problem because you
can upload videos twitter you can upload you know you're gonna have music playing in the background
like for a while there were people uploading entire movies to Twitter. I remember a while back someone uploaded,
I think it was Shrek in 18 parts or something like that,
or whatever number it was.
And in this lawsuit, they have a list.
Actually, wait.
We can find...
So the National Music Publishers Association NMPA is suing
Twitter on behalf of 17 music
publishers representing the biggest artists
in the industry. The lawsuit filed in
federal court in Tennessee claims the company
fuels its business with countless
infringing copies of musical
compositions, violating publishers
and others' exclusive rights
under copyright. It also has a list
of 1,700 songs.
We'll have a look at that.
I'm curious to see what's on it.
The publishers say,
having included in multiple copyright notices to Twitter
without the company doing anything about it,
asking the court to fine Twitter up to $150,000
for each violation.
The issue predates.
Predates.
Predates.
Musk's 44 billion purchase of Twitter last year.
This has been a problem that Twitter has been dealing with for a while.
Like for a very very long time now.
You've just been able to upload whatever you wanted to Twitter.
And there was basically no DMCA system.
And now with Twitter Blue.
You can upload longer videos uh
and the lawsuit doesn't mention the flood of movies uploaded to twitter
like copies of super mario bros and avatar the way of water a way of the water uh is this
uploaded in oh this is uploaded in two parts because it's twitter blue and you can upload
really long videos earlier this had to be in like 20 or something parts but now it doesn't matter Oh, this is uploaded in two parts because it's Twitter blue and you can upload read-along videos
Earlier this had to be in like 20 or something parts, but now it doesn't matter just upload fucking everything
A user complained their account could be suspended after five copyright notices which Musk said he was looking into and advised they should consider
Turning on subscriptions, which the suit says encouraged them to pay Twitter to hide
the infringing material so it could be flagged.
What?
In another tweet, Elon Musk said the overzealous
DMC is a plague on humanity.
He's absolutely right there, without a doubt.
The problem is, the overzealous
plague on humanity has a lot of money
and a lot of lawyers.
It wasn't included in the lawsuit, but in March, Musk also tweeted
that accounts engaging in repeated egregious weaponization
of a DMCA on Twitter or encouraging weaponization of DMCA
will receive temporary suspensions,
while claiming that reasonable media takedown requests
are, of course, appropriate and will always be supported.
Let's see if we can find that list of songs.
Oh, here we go.
Does it say...
It doesn't say the artist, does it?
What is this giant fucking thing on the side of my screen?
How do I get rid of this?
We'll just see if we can find the plaintiffs, or does it say,
we're not, ah, that's, that's so annoying, it doesn't say the artist, uh, all I want for you, wait, all I want for Christmas is you, that's gonna be on the list, okay, all of the lights,
that's gonna be on the list, okay, all of the lights, uh, another brick in the wall,
another brick in the wall, uh, lovely, um, Baby Got Back is on the list, man,
fucking can't play Baby Got Back on, uh, on Twitter anymore, uh,
Bad Man, Smooth Criminal, Puppy Girls on the list.
There's a lot of songs with basically the exact same name. Big Bang Theory,
Main Title Theme.
Okay, sure.
Sure, why not?
You know, now that I think about it, scrolling
through 1700 songs,
trying to find songs I recognize is probably a bad idea.
Yeah, this is actually not worth the effort.
If you want to go check out the songs that are in the lawsuit,
go and do so.
Fucking Eye of the Tiger's on there, though.
I am not surprised this is happening.
Like, Twitter is a massive
platform and has been
in a
they have been in a situation
where they've had to deal with this for a long time.
But it just
hadn't really happened.
And now
I guess it's gonna happen.
What's gonna probably end
up happening is Twitter is
gonna have to have a very overzealous DMCA system like YouTube does and like
Twitch does and you know uploading and there's actually kind of a funny time
for it to happen because Elon's been talking about the idea of Twitter
becoming a a media platform that people upload videos to. So you have this
happen just as that's sort of getting some level of steam. And I can't imagine
that would be going all too well for the people who want to start using the
platform. Ugh, why't I use the platform?
For that sort of purpose.
Because that was one of the big selling points of
Twitter Blue. You could now, you know,
upload content and get advertising
on and make money off and all that stuff.
Um.
Yeah.
But it was pretty
much an issue waiting to happen.
The idea, like, DMCA is kind of fucked.
Like, the way the system works is a mess,
but no one's really trying to fix it.
Like, no one, at least in positions of power,
is trying to address it.
So it's more like, well, it's fucked,
but kind of just got to work address it so it's more like well it's fucked but kind of
just gotta work with it as it is and do not do not have ever like awake the
dragon do not ever get on the bad side of DMCA just be safe never touch content
that might be a slight problem and you should be fine
you know except for that guy was on Twitch was on Twitch where a guy got banned
for playing his own music yeah here it is
over on game rant five days ago Twitch banned Streamer for playing their own music,
which is fucking incredible.
A streamer discovers the Twitch ban,
his old account,
for using music he owns the license to,
adding to the list of unusual bans from the company.
What exactly was the violation?
What do I need to change to not violate TOS?
There has been zero discourse with me,
and why my appeal was denied just this confusing email
It would really help you be clear about what you're doing and why you're doing it. Let's have a look at the email itself
Your account has been recently suspended for courtesy channel livestream stream suspension after reviewing the details
of the case we have decided that your account will remain suspended due to your violation of
community guidelines attempting to evade restrictions placed in your account may result
in additional penalties up to and including indefinite suspension i always love when they say
you have been banned for breaking a breaking the rule but but they're not at all telling you what the rule was.
I have been sent
an exemption email
for the Lo-Fi channel.
Why do you
need an exemption
for streaming your
own music?
Why do you need an exemption for streaming your own music i don't understand
i don't i don't i don't i don't understand
i don't understand
honestly we could talk about the whole twitch situation as well with with them, uh, fucking people over, with the changes to, like, advertising on
the platform, and then rolling back the changes, because everyone was like, hey, guys, um, no,
no, like, the, the Twitch situation, I think, was much more, much more deadly than the Reddit situation.
Because in the case of Reddit, right?
If the Reddit admins decided,
we are going to just...
You know, we don't like that this protest is happening.
We could just reopen everything.
If Twitch streamers stopped using Twitch,
like, there's nothing that they could actually do to bring them back.
It's not like they can be like, oh, I'm just going to start the stream up myself.
Like, you're going to start up XQC's stream, you're going to start up, like, Hassan's stream, or anyone else.
Like, anyone else in the platform.
Like, no, that's just not how it works.
Like, they're not there to do the stream, so the content wouldn't be there.
And it's not like anyone even needed a protest in the Twitch case.
They were just like, hey, guys, you know that kick thing?
That kick thing's actually pretty cool.
Like, there was no official protest.
It was just people considering, considering using other platforms, and they're like, shit.
Shit, shit, this is a problem.
They're actually, they're actually going to use other platforms this time. Guys, guys, this is a problem. Um, they're actually they're actually gonna use other platforms this time
Guys guys is a bad idea. We need a winner about what we're doing now. Um
Okay, guys, that was your mistake. You guys just misinterpreted what we said
He's not a big deal actually
What really happened is they got caught in the act and they pretty much just tried to find any way to get out of it being a problem.
And hey, they got out of it being a problem.
Everyone's just forgotten that Twitch was a problem.
And now they're just going back to using Twitch.
Like, they always have kick and stuff, just not getting the massive signups they were.
So, you know, it goes, like, it is what it is, like, once, once that initial outrage just dies down, it's really difficult for people to break their, break the habits they have.
If they have a habit of using Reddit, of using Twitch, of any of these platforms,
and there's no reason to be angry anymore, well, there's no reason to be angry anymore, well, there's
no reason to be angry anymore, so I guess we can just go back to what we were doing
before, because changing is difficult, and it's much, much easier to just pretty much
keep doing what you've always been doing.
As sad as it is, but, you know, it kind of is what it is
speaking of is what it is
I don't know if you guys noticed, the audio listeners obviously
won't, but any of you
video watchers and notice the shirt I'm wearing
it finally showed up
I ordered this fucking, when it happened
this is the
anime rock paper
scissors shirt from Corridor Digital.
My, uh, a lot of the shirts I had were starting to
fall apart. So, usually what I do every, like, year and a half, two years, whenever I feel like
buying new clothes, I will get rid of things that are, like, you know, falling apart. Like,
not, like, broken, like, not torn to falling apart, like, not like broken, like not
torn to shreds, but like maybe the print or something is fading, usually I go and just donate
to them to like some local whatever, some local charity that, usually one of the, the, the ones
that are nearby, um, and then end up replacing a bunch of them, and I've said it before, most of my
shirts I get from Into the AM, they don't pay me, I wish they did pay me, because I pretty much wear their shirts
all the time, and it's pretty good advertising for them, so I actually have a pile of other
things here as well besides this shirt, but before we get to that, this shirt took so long to get
here, I was watching on, I think it was DHL is the shipping service that was going through. It sat in, like,
the warehouse for, like, a month. I don't know why. It just didn't move. Like, it didn't, like,
come over to Australia. It just stayed there. I was honestly getting ready to start, like,
calling someone, trying to work out what the hell's going on. And then it showed up with the rest of the shirts.
Like I'd ordered these three weeks ago.
This I ordered like three months ago.
Why did they show up together?
I don't know.
Maybe they just forgot the shirt was there and like,
oh, here's this other package under this name.
Maybe we should send this package that we've had sitting here for a while.
Seems like a good idea to actually send it.
I don't know what the deal was.
That's, like, the only
thing that makes sense is they had misplaced
the package, and then
when another package came through,
they realized that there was a package
still there under my name,
and then sent it along with it.
But anyway, um,
probably start
seeing these in videos coming up, but IntoTheAM pretty much always has, um, probably start seeing these in videos coming up, but Into the AM, uh, Into the AM pretty much always has, like, a sale going on, so it's always pretty easy to, like, get cheap shirts.
I think this time there was, like, a 50% off sale or something, um, which is not surprising, because there's always a 50% off sale usually on like whatever
the like last season
shirts are
which is cool for me
I don't really care what like their current
in style, in fashion shirts are
I will buy the cheaper ones because
I want to buy the cheaper ones
I actually really like this one
gotta have a shirt that isn't black
at least one shirt that isn't black
in my entire collection maybe I just need to buy a chair that isn't black. At least one. At least one shirt that isn't black in my entire collection.
Maybe I just need to buy a chair that isn't black.
And then it's less of a problem.
Or like get rid of the.
Get blackout curtains that aren't like black.
Maybe like a dark blue or something.
Um.
So I don't blend into the environment.
When I get another chair.
It's gonna be a chair that isn't black though.
That'll make.
Definitely make it stand out more.
All of these shirts are honestly really cool.
And I think there's one more after this.
That one.
This is really bad content for the audio listeners.
You know what?
I will describe the shirts.
You know what?
That's what we're going to do.
We'll go backwards through the list for the audio listeners.
And for the video watchers, that's what we're gonna do. We'll go backwards through the list for the audio listeners and
for the video watchers, you guys can just have another look. So this one here, you have a
jacked astronaut who is flexing in front of, I guess that would be
Neptune? I don't know, it's in front of a blue planet of some description.
But you have a jacked astronaut with his suit bending around
his body.
Here you have
an astronaut that's
got nature growing around him.
He's just chilling on the ground,
and he's been chilling so long
that grass started growing through him,
plants are growing through his suit, and all that fun stuff.
What are the other ones?
Here is a skull that has, like, a crown above it.
So the skull is looking up at the crown and the crown is melting.
Like, gold is dripping down onto the skull itself.
Uh, this one is the white shirt.
This one is basically a sakura tree,
a cherry blossom,
on top of a...
I guess a cliff?
With a crescent moon behind it.
This one...
This is what happens when you take too much DMT and then go outside.
This is the moon.
It's all rainbow-y and it's like melting into the river. And there's like Saturn and other things in the sky that are also melting.
Because...
Of course they are.
And the first one i showed
uh this is more look going outside taking too much dmt um this is like a an astronaut
falling down through the sky i I guess falling to Earth,
but rather than, like, the streaks of fire being, you know, fire,
they're blue instead.
Most of Into the Am shirts are designed in that sort of either psychedelic-y or space or...
They've added some, like, Japanese and some other stuff.
Inspired stuff as well.
But, as I said,
I just buy whatever is in their last season,
and then it's like half the price.
Who cares about buying the new stuff?
Nobody, nobody I know buys from Into the AM.
So like everyone sees the shirt,
it's like, oh, that's a cool shirt.
Where'd you get that?
I'm like, go get a friend Into the AM.
Into the AM.
If any of you guys,
anyone who works there
Here's this please sponsor this podcast. Please sponsor the main channel
I buy all your I buy pretty much all my shirts in there except this one
I guess and also the the gorilla the gorilla one I got from Kmart
I
Am advertising your content in every video
Give me money Pay me pay me for advertising your content in every video. Give me money.
Pay me for advertising your shirts.
Pay me in shirts.
Give me a permanent 75% off, and then we can talk.
But on the topic of getting paid
this is more of a meta-y YouTube-y thing
YouTube is lowering the barrier to entry
for its monetization program
so this channel is not monetized currently on YouTube
you may be seeing this in the future
in which case it might be
but as of the recording
of this, this podcast channel is not monetized. The main reason for that is I didn't feel like
monetizing. It'll be monetized at some point, but with how many views the channel was getting,
let's, I'll just check for a second. Let's see over the
past month how many views I've gotten. So, YouTube studio, over the past 30 days
this channel has had 32 and a half thousand views, which is better than the channel's been doing,
the channel is in a pretty good state right now, the podcast is, especially the audio version of
the podcast, the audio version is, like, getting a lot of attention, but the, the video version has
been doing quite well as well, I think we're on a, we're on a lower turn right now but it's like higher way way higher than it's been over like
the past year um yeah 32 000 views over the past uh 30 days which roughly equates to 64, 65, 70 dollars a month on this channel. So this channel, you know, it's not nothing,
but YouTube won't pay out until you've made a minimum of a hundred dollars. It's cumulative
over the month. So if you make $30 one month and then $70 the next month, you don't lose that $30. It's
just added together. And then when you pass the threshold, then they will actually pay out.
So this podcast channel is at 3,500 subs. Yeah. And right now, the conditions to be a partnered channel
where you can actually have ads running on it
and actually get paid is 1,000 subs,
4,000 watch hours in the past year,
or 10 million shorts views in the past 90 days.
That's so fucking much.
Jesus Christ.
I presume they had done the math there
because that seems like way way more shorts views
Than 4,000 watch hours is worth of a regular video. I
Guess the shorts are weird. You don't really make like shorts
Shorts are worth so little because the way advertising is done with them. They're just not
They're not supported in the same fashion. Now what they're doing
is changing it to
500 subs,
3 public uploads in the past
90 days, or...
Ah, sorry, and
3,000 watch hours in the past
3 years, or 3 million
short views in the
last 90 days.
Wait, 3 public uploads in the last 90 days, wait, three probably uploads in the last 90 days,
that actually, this is actually a weird one, because this actually makes it harder to monetize
your channel, let's say you're someone who, let's say you're like an internet historian
style of channel, obviously, you know, his channel gets so many views and already
well monetized
that the
monetization wouldn't go away.
But imagine you're a new channel
and you upload in the same
sort of fashion and quickly the channel
takes off. You get like, you know, 10,
20,000 subs, you get 50,000 subs
but you upload at the same rate.
So you upload like a couple of
videos a year. Like you could have a well-performing channel, but not meet this condition. This seems
like a weird condition. I don't know why it's there. Like this makes sense. This also makes
sense. 3 million shorts views in the past 90 days. Oh wait, 10 million in the past 90 days. Oh, wait, 10 million in the past 90 days?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's way more than I thought.
I thought that was...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So that's 4,000 watch hours in the past year,
10 million views in the last 90 days.
Okay, that number does not translate to that.
That is way, way, way higher than that
is. That's
also really high, the 3 million shorts
views in 90 days, but it seems
more comparable
to this.
But the thing is, when you have 500 subs,
having a monetized
channel doesn't
really...
It really doesn't matter. I know it's good to make any amount
of money you can, absolutely, but take these numbers into consideration, this channel has
three and a half thousand subs, and 32,000 views this month, um, the last episode of the podcast didn't do insanely well.
So that one is slightly downturned. But assuming the numbers like scaled perfectly.
If I was at 500 subs, you could assume like maybe 5,000 views in the past month.
Judging by these numbers, as I said, they don't scale properly.
And when your channel is that small,
it's also very likely the numbers are, like, really weird per video.
Like, some videos would do...
You might get, like, 1,000 views on a video,
but then another video would get, like, 5 views.
Just because you don't have that core established audience yet.
That would be, like like $10 a month.
So, YouTube would basically pay out once a year.
So, for me, like, it doesn't really...
It's nice that more channels can be monetized.
But it's also not a big deal because of how like how little money is being
made from the channel and how rarely youtube is actually going to pay out when a channel is that
big i guess the one exception where it makes a lot of sense is let's say your channel takes off with
a very viral video which sometimes happens like you'll have a couple of videos at the start and
then you upload something gets a million views there are a lot of channels that get one of those
videos before their channel is monetized a lot of videos to get one of the videos
a lot of channels to get one of those videos before the channel is monetized
and that that video if the channel is monetized would be like $10,000 but
because there's no monetization you don't get retroactively paid for the views on a video.
If there's no ads there, you just don't get paid for it.
So that money will just disappear into the ether.
So in cases like that, it does make quite a bit of sense.
But that is also like a weird edge case
for regular people that don't have that happen.
It's not a super big deal.
At some point, I will monetize the podcast channel.
The only reason I hadn't done it
is just because of how little it would have made.
I was thinking maybe I'll monetize it around
like four, five K subs or something um just
because I might as well like I it just it just sort of makes sense to do it at some point
and by that point the channel would be would have enough views coming in where it would be doing a
payout every month I don't really pay super much attention to like the the channels outside of the main
channel as like actual channels. Like I the gaming channels the most obvious of
this where I just do whatever the fuck I playing playing you know ps2 games for
example like that's not the most optimal way to grow a channel,
like, playing games is not the most optimal way to grow a channel, but, like, I just do whatever
I want, and the podcast is in much the same way, like, I bring on guests that I want to talk to,
not necessarily guests that are gonna do well on a podcast, like, if I wanted to do that,
guests that are gonna do well on a podcast like if i wanted to do that i would only talk to like big youtubers because it seems like for some reason a lot of the interesting people outside
of the youtube space don't end up doing super well i think there's gonna be an exception for
alan pope and that when you probably already know that when this comes out but when i uploaded the
robert mcqueen video i think robert mcqueen co-founder, collaborator, CEO of NSOS, GNOME board
president, super interesting guest, but it like just did as a video would normally do.
But then I bring on someone like Chris Titus Tech, and it's like way bigger.
I bring on like Linuxperiment, way bigger. I bring on some like Linux youtuber that has 500 subs, way bigger, I bring on, like, Linux Experiment, way bigger, I bring on some, like, Linux YouTuber that has 500 subs, way bigger, for some reason, I don't know why, is it titling, is it something
else, I, I don't know what it is, maybe it's just people really like YouTubers, I don't know,
I like talking to YouTubers, it's fun, we can talk about, you know, content creation, all that fun
stuff, but the people who are doing actually interesting things.
In the FOSS world.
I think are the most fun people to talk to.
I'm in the process of planning an episode.
With Calc Programmer 1.
The Open RGB developer.
And when I did the video with Matthew Miller.
After we were done.
He gave me a couple of names of people to get in contact with to try to bring on to the show.
I don't know if any of those are going to happen,
but the one with the OpenRGB developer is absolutely happening.
It's just a matter of working out the specific date and time it's being done.
So it'll probably get recorded after FFXVI week because I'm taking that week off of recording the podcast
just because I'm way ahead.
Like this is coming out in like three weeks
because I did one week where I had...
No, I think... No, I did two weeks.
I did two weeks where I did double episodes.
So now I'm so many weeks ahead,
that it's just an absolute mess, and I might be doing another double week, because, um, in that open RGB developer week,
there's gonna be another guest happening around the same time, so it'll be open RGB developer, and probably also
Vashinator at the same time, another Linux YouTuber, so I'll probably end up taking the week off of, I'll probably take the week off during AvCon as well, um, AvCon, when is AvCon?
AvCon 2023, I bought tickets ages ago, July, uh, July, yeah, July 21st, 23rd, that's, uh, AvCon is
21st to 23rd.
That's, uh, Avcon is the, um,
anime and video game convention
in Adelaide. It happens, or it happened,
happened once a year.
Uh, hasn't happened the past
couple of years because of the
Rona, but now it is back.
So, what are, they, so,
Avcon actually have an indie games room,
and I am very
likely, assuming they didn't change anything, the indie games room is still there.
I'm probably going to, you know, hit up some of the indie game devs there.
And see if they're interested in coming and doing a podcast.
Because a lot of them are very, you know...
you know, they are very small creators who haven't really, haven't really gotten much press coverage. So I feel like a lot of them actually would be, actually would
be interested in coming and doing so, coming and doing it, um, wow, is this an actual guest at Avcon, holy shit,
so, Avcon the past couple of times have had really shit guests, um, so, this is some random person
who, this is a voice actor, there's always at least one voice actor, this other one is an animator,
that's actually nice,. Like some of the years
they've been like, let's have a, um, let's have a cosplayer as a guest. No, no, don't do that.
My, um, I think my favorite guest that they had was a couple of years back. They had the voice
actor for Xemnas, who I'm blanking on the name for, and I'm blanking on the year it happened.
The English voice for Xemnas. Xemnas voice. Paul St. Peter. Yeah. Paul St. Peter.
That was really fun, because during the panels, he would use the Xemnas voice to say really stupid
things. He's also done plenty of other
things as well but like that's all Boomer stuff the stuff that people actually recognize for most
of the audience there was Xemnas um I think he'd been in some like older anime from the 90s and
things like that but Boomer stuff Xemnas is the important part. So speaking of the important things,
This wasn't going to happen like I had no intention of doing this
but someone actually made
New art for this channel. I'm not using it now right now. I'm still using the
the it now, right now I'm still using the, the, uh, current, uh, the, the old, the old logo I've been
using for years now, um, but I'll see if I can find it, uh, here it is, uh, where is it, this one,
Uh, where is it? This one. So, a guy on Mastodon called Tonke sent me this.
Uh, he separated it out into separate things, but just, like, not even asked for anything,
just out of nowhere was like, here, have this. And I was like like this actually looks really cool
and I've had the The design for the the art we have on this channel for a long time now
so it's you know, probably about time for a change and
The only problem this had is it wasn't really set up for use as a as a YouTube banner
it wasn't really set up for use as a YouTube banner.
Because YouTube banners have, in case you don't know,
YouTube banners actually have some requirements on how they're structured.
Without showing the DMs, I'll show you the actual image.
So there is a text and logo safe area.
This is the minimum for desktop.
Then there's the tablet.
Then there is the full desktop view. Then there is the tablet. Then there's the full desktop view.
Then there's the TV view.
And you've got to have your banner fit pretty much all of this.
So you want it to be 2560x1440.
But you have to have this very small area here.
Where it's safe to have your logo and stuff.
Which is really annoying.
But, you know, it is what it is.
So he sent me another one, um, which did take that
into consideration, and I'll see if I, I should better find it, not in that folder, where is it,
that folder, yeah, there it is, uh, sent me a modified version
of it again
here we go
and this
is set up to actually fit
the full banner
I don't like
the lines
around the side
like these lines that go through the
in quarters wait it's not quarters, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 lines around the site like this like these lines that go through the
Like in in quarters, I guess wait, it's not quarters one two three four five in whatever in fifths, I guess
I don't know why he added them entirely
But I'm probably gonna remove them because he sent me the source files as well
So I yeah, I'll probably just remove those lines.
I don't think they really add much to it.
I think it kind of just takes away from the overall design.
But this is probably going to end up being the new art being used on this podcast.
I don't know what episode I'm going to start using it in.
I need to modify a couple of things and And to make a logo to fit for the podcast logo.
But it's going to be in this same sort of style.
But honestly, I think this looks really cool.
And it's nice to have a change. Oh, I also need to change the art on the actual podcast overlay itself.
Because this is still using a design for the original art.
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to work something out for that one as well.
So I'll probably have to... I don't actually know. I'll work something out, that's for sure.
I'll probably mess around with it this weekend if I don't get
lazy, which I probably will, because that's what happens on the
weekend. And
yeah, so if you
have any thoughts on it, let me
know. If you think it's terrible,
let me know.
I'm probably still going to use it.
Even though some people don't like change,
I'm probably still going to use it.
Okay, here's the problem though, though right he made the art for free
and I was like hey I'm willing to pay you for the art
and then he just ignored that part
I should just buy him a game key
and just send him a game key
like I don't like the idea of someone
making me some art for the channel
and then me not paying anything for it
like I didn't ask for it
so it's totally fair that you made it initially but but if I'm actually gonna use it, I wanna
give you something. So, I'm gonna send him a message and be like, yo, like, let me at
least buy you a game. Tell me a game. I don't care what game it is. I'll buy you like, I
don't know, I'll buy you a hundred dollar game if you want. I don't care. Just, I don't
wanna use this art for free. He's like licensed under Creative Commons something something or other.
And that's great.
I can use it.
But like, let me give you some money.
Just something.
Anything.
Maybe that's just me.
Maybe you guys are happy with getting things for free.
But when it's something like this that I know I'm going to be using for a long time.
Like, it just feels weird to me to not do that, like, even that early art, like, I got one
of my mates to do it from, uh, from uni, and I paid him to do the art, and I, I'm perfectly happy to have
paid him for the art, but, you know, we'll, uh, we'll, we'll see what happens when I adjust some things and get it properly suited for fitting on the channel.
But if you have any thoughts on it, do let me know about it.
Because I would be happy to hear about it.
Mmm.
What else do I have on here that I haven't
talked about yet?
I could talk about Dragon's Dogma.
You know what, we're going to talk a little bit about Dragon's Dogma.
So,
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supposed to go. Oh my god.
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I guess we'll skip ahead.
So, recently there was all of, you know, a bunch of games announced, all that stuff.
Capcom had their recent game showcase along with everybody else doing their own game showcases.
During this, Dragon's Dogma 2 was shown.
If you've not played Dragon's Dogma, please go play Dragon's Dogma. It's so good.
I should go back and play it again. So the thing that was cool about Dragon's Dogma is you had this really neat party system.
So you had your main character, and then you had what was known as a pawn.
A pawn was basically a character that you made yourself.
You could set it to be whatever class you wanted, give it whatever gear you wanted, and this would be
someone who just follows you around, you know, helping you in your party.
But you can also have two other party members. This is where it gets really cool.
It's not regular characters you would see in like a normal RPG. It's pawns of other characters.
So you would go into this like magical crystal thing and then
it gives you some bullshit lore reason for why they can join your game. But the important part
is they join your game from other, um, other players worlds and they don't level with you.
This is what also makes it cool. So you can't just grab a pawn. You're like, this is a really cool
pawn. I'm just going to run this the entire game because if you get it at level 5 it is level 5
So you have to get rid of that pawn and then bring another one in so you're sort of constantly shifting in these new party members
Trying out different strategies. Maybe you're gonna bring a caster in you're gonna bring this archer in maybe you want to get rid of pawns
That are you know, maybe you're gonna fight an enemy that is really magic resistant,
so you want to get rid of the magic pawns and bring some physical pawns in, this is all stuff that's really, really cool, um, I'm unsure where the story is gonna go from here, uh,
like, I'm, we don't really know much about the, the story as is, but the world looks cool, like, it just looks like more Dragon's Dogma, I don't
even care that even if the exact same story, like, it could be literally just the same story at a
different time in history, doesn't matter, all that matters is, it's Dragon's Dogma, and the nice
thing about the party members, this was one of the first games I played, where I felt like the party
members weren't morons.
Like, you know, you play a game with AI party members and you're like,
these characters feel useless.
They feel like they're a waste of time.
Like Skyrim, for example.
Like, you have Lydia in your party and then she just runs off a cliff.
Like, why?
In Dragon's Dogma, the party members understand like what the enemies can do.
So if you're fighting a Cyclops for example, the enemies aren't like the the party members you have
like they understand what a Cyclops is. So like hey attack its eye, hit it with this kind of magic. Like, they give you hints that make sense for, like,
they make sense lore-wise to understand the enemy's weaknesses
because these are, like, you know, these are warriors from some other area.
So it's likely that they fought some of these enemies before.
So it makes sense that they can give you hints on what they can,
what the enemies can do without having to have some contrived magic reason.
Like, you know, you have a spell like Libra in Final Fantasy
and it's just like, it tells you the enemy's stats.
It tells you the enemy's weaknesses.
Without having something like that,
you have a perfectly sensible lore reason
to explain to the player how to better fight these enemies.
Also, one of the nice things about
Dragon's Dogma is you can climb
onto big enemies.
Like, you're fighting a cyclops, you grab
onto its face and just fucking stab it in
the eye. Or you're
fighting a griffon and you just jump
on its back. Or, in this case, fighting
a cyclops.
You grab on its leg and just fucking
start stabbing it in the dick.
It's like, this is cool.
This is just a cool game.
It's built on the RE engine, which I don't know what that is.
I'm guessing it's some in-house engine.
Which is probably a modified Unreal Engine, because everything is.
But from what I'm seeing here, it just looks...
A lot like Dragon's Dogma.
Also, it has...
The combat was like...
It comes off weird if you're watching the combat.
But when you're doing melee combat, there is this slight, I guess, slight pause when you hit an enemy.
Which looks weird when you're watching.
But it kind of adds some extra impact.
Especially when you knock an enemy away.
Like you hit them with a giant greatsword, and there's this slight pause, and they fucking fly off, like, it just looks cool, also, this, this bit is cool, um, this is how you get
yourself killed, um, and it's a bad idea, because you'll run out of stamina and just die, uh, in this
case, the character is attached to a griffin that is flying at enough height where if you fell off,
you just die. So, if your stamina runs out, you just die. So, the game lets you do things like
that. It's a super cool way of handling combat. It's nice that a lot of the systems from Dragon's
Dogma 1 just seem to be returning as is. There's a lot of things in the game
that didn't really need to change. I think the only thing that really needed to change is there
were some classes that just were not good to play. Like, if you tried to play a support mage,
a support mage,
it was just not good gameplay.
Because you were just,
just not getting involved in anything.
Like, you were a support mage.
Like, which is fine if it's a party member.
Or like, some of the, some of the casters, for example,
or some of the enemies, for example,
are so immune to magic,
that if you are playing a caster, you do not hurt the enemies.
You have to wait for your party members to kill the enemy because that is all you can do.
From my experience, the melee characters played the best.
But I hope they address some of those problems
that's probably my only big concern
make the
magical characters
feel more
useful in more situations
because they are so
cool, like being able to rain
meteors from the sky or summon
a giant tornado or or, like,
blasting the entire field with, like,
an ice nova. Like, all of this stuff is
so cool. But when you run
into, like, big enemies that aren't even
that, like, they're not even, like, a boss or something
weird. It's just, like, an enemy out in the
overworld, and it's pretty much immune
to magic. It's a little bit annoying.
Maybe some, add some system
where you can add magic resist to
these enemies if you run across them, so you can
synergize between the party members, something
like that.
But, you know.
Or maybe, I knew you could also just change
your class pretty much at will.
Maybe make that even more convenient
or something like that.
I don't know how what exactly they're going to do as the game comes out.
But I want to go play Dragon's Dogma 1 again.
Because it's been a long time.
And it's fun.
It's just fun.
That's all that matters.
It's just a pure fun RPG.
It's made by...
It's one of those, they, those, it's one of those RPGs that doesn't
try to, doesn't try to bog you down with story. Like, there are certainly the story beats,
there's, like, characters you can talk to, there's cut scenes, there is a story that goes through,
but it's more focused on your actions in the world like you can
just be like story what i'm just gonna go to the thing and do the thing whatever it doesn't matter
so like just just focus on focus on your adventure through the world most of the time when i was
playing the game i just kind of ignored what the game wanted me to do and just like did a thing. Like,
from my experience, I don't remember there being
a lot of
hard walls in the world.
You know, segments where
you can't progress forward because
you are not allowed through here adventurer. You must
go complete this quest.
You could just go to areas
that were way too difficult for you and just die.
Or you could win.
Because that's the nice thing.
It's one of those games where if you were a good player,
you could win most encounters,
even if you really shouldn't have been there.
Especially once you started getting some of the more powerful magic.
Like being a summer fucking meteor, or summon a tornado,
that just eliminates everything, but they were definitely the difficult encounters as well,
uh, like, you know, you go fight a dragon the first time, you're like, oh shit, oh shit, I'm dead now,
oh, that's good, I remember in Dragon's Dogma 1, the first time you see a dragon outside of the,
like, the tutorial, sort of, there's first time you see a dragon outside of the tutorial...
There's a segment at the start of the game where you're super powerful.
You're at the peak of your class, and then you lose everything.
Games like to do this to introduce the world.
But when you go fight your first dragon after that, it's in this forest.
And you don't realize it's there there because it's hiding between the trees
but then they go, and you die.
That's pretty much how it goes.
Or you win
because you notice it's there and then you actually
don't get lit on fire and have your entire
health bar just vanish.
Maybe I'll actually go and stream
Dragon's Dogma. I don't remember it being a
super long game. Maybe it was.
Being an RPG,
it very much depends on how much of the
side stuff you do.
Dark Arisen
length.
Ah, okay.
If you try to complete
everything, 118 hours.
If you just do the main
story, 38 hours.
If you do the main story and then the post-game content, it's 55 hours.
Okay, so it's not that long in the context of RPGs.
Like, you know, Persona 5 Royal, for example.
That's, I guess, my favorite example of a game that's just ridiculously long.
Persona 5 Royal Link.
Main objectives.
101 hours.
That's not Completionist.
That's just the main story.
101 hours.
143 for Completionist.
But, like, you could take way longer.
Especially if you just take all of the events really slowly
and you enjoy the areas you're in you go do some of the longer side content like you go um
rather than trying to like max out your stats you try to you know go do a lot more of the combat
which typically lasts longer than doing the,
this, the mini games that last for, like, a couple of minutes, like, you could make the game just
last a ridiculous amount of time, and then you could do New Game Plus and last, like, even longer,
but, you know, sort of fine, very good game, uh, Royal, I need to play at some point i've got a copy of royal on steam
one day i'll play it uh one day 101 hours yeah yeah it's gonna be it's gonna certainly be a
a journey when i decide to actually play it but you know it is what it is we have somehow hit the the two hour mark. So, I should probably
stop recording.
Forget.
So I'm going to go to work in a bit.
Maybe like a few hours, but like, I've got to
upload
videos and upload things
and new things and, you know, is what
it is.
Yeah. Next week, there's going to
be a guest episode. I don't know if it's going to be
Vashinator or Calc Programmer 1, I don't know, one of the two, we'll see who I decide to get on first,
and then, yeah, enjoy the rest of your day, all the fun stuff, I don't know why people watch this
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to go, so that is going to be it for me. Ah, gaming channel,
right, I'm playing Final Fantasy 16 as this comes out. It's probably very good.
I don't know, I've not played it yet. This is like a week before the game comes
out, but judging by what everyone's saying, it's really cool. Probably game of the
year. I don't know, could be terrible, could be all lying to me. Also finishing
off Yakuza 0. Also, actually a very very good game Can confirm, been playing it for
A long time now
Main channel, I don't know
What's coming out, Linux videos, probably
Can't see any reason why it wouldn't be
And um
Yeah, I guess that's gonna be it for me
I think that's the only thing I gotta say
And
Yeah, peace out, enjoy your day
And I'm out, I forgot what, I was gonna end it
like a stream, I was gonna go to like a different layout, not press the stop button, but, whatever,
bye.