Tech Over Tea - PopOS Desktop, ChatGPT, Linux HDR & More | Solo

Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, and good evening. I am, as always, your, I guess you could say, lovely host. Depends on how you feel about that. Brodie Robertson. Welcome to episode 147. Today we're doing a solo episode, and things might seem a little bit off. Now, recording all of that stuff is exactly how it should be. Camera's slightly move because

Starting point is 00:00:25 i bump things um but you're gonna notice that whenever i talk about any uh any topics this week that are like newsy related some of them might seem like they're a little bit out of date now i've tried to pick things where like you know timing and all that wouldn't really matter things that just generally want to talk about. But I don't want to be doing podcasts over the Christmas period. Plus finding guests and things like that. You know, I've tried to do that before. It's kind of difficult.

Starting point is 00:00:58 A lot of people, you know, have families and don't want to do a podcast with some random Australian dude when they're at Christmas or New Year's parties, things like that. So, I'm doing three podcasts basically in this week period, and then, yeah, over that section, I'm not going to be doing any of the podcasts. Now, my regular videos, those are going to happen, like, pretty much like they always do. But yeah, I've got the, I guess last week you would have seen the episode with Lena, now you're seeing this episode, next week you'll see an episode with EG, I think that should be out around, I think, if my plan makes sense, this should last till the end of, the end of the year, and then after that point, everything goes back to the, of the end of the year and then after that point everything goes back to the um

Starting point is 00:01:45 pretty much the way that it should be there is a episode that uh one of my subs wants me to get set up the i think i i don't know if it was the dev of bottle i don't think it was the dev of bottles themselves might even want to like the other devs. But someone, I guess, in the Bottles Discord said that I should have the founder of Bottles and VanillaOS on. Mirko Bomben, I want to say his name is. Could be getting the name wrong. Anyway, the guy who makes... I know the guy's name is Mirko, the, um, guy who makes bottles, and the other thing I said, Vanilla OS, in case you don't know, Vanilla OS is,

Starting point is 00:02:33 that's a new distro that a lot of people are starting to talk about recently, um, basically, it is not, like, public access yet, basically, it is, it's what Fed public access yet. Basically, it is... It's what Fedora is with, um, with GNOME, where it's a vanilla GNOME experience, but built on Ubuntu, basically. So if you like the Fedora vanillaness, maybe this would be, um... Maybe this would be of value to you. I do like how

Starting point is 00:03:05 distros will advertise gaming and things like that. It's literally just Ubuntu under the hood. So it's not like this crazy thing that... Also, sorry, the other thing. It's more like Silverblue, not just Ubuntu. So it's a

Starting point is 00:03:21 what do you call it? Immutable Linux distro. So it's an immutable Ubuntu, so it's a, uh, what do you call it, uh, immutable Linux distro, so it's an immutable Ubuntu running vanilla GNOME, so it is, like, a different thing, but, you know, it's, it's still just basically silver blue, but with an Ubuntu base instead, which I think is cool, um, and I'd be happy to have this person on, without a doubt, happy to have them on, I don't know how to get in contact with them, so, you know, if that happens, that would be great. If it doesn't happen, well, obviously, the contact never happened. There's a bunch of other fun people I want to

Starting point is 00:03:54 try to get on next year as well. There is still an episode that I want to do with RootBSD that is still going to happen at some point. It's just a matter at some point, is just a matter of, uh, schedules lining up, just a matter of your time being available, things like that, cause he's in one of those annoying time zones where I'd be recording at like 3 in the morning, which

Starting point is 00:04:18 I've done before, but it's never a, it's never an optimal experience to be recording like that. But, um, yeah. I think that's pretty much all the housekeeping stuff. Just things will get back to normal after New Year's. And I think that's it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:37 Anyway, let's talk about the main things I want to talk about. One of those things being what happened over on the Steam Hardware survey now if you've never seen the Steam Hardware survey I don't know how you do anything involving gaming and not seen the Steam Hardware survey For the longest time the top GPU on the Steam Hardware survey has been the 1060 the GTX 1060, the GTX 1060, but that's finally been, uh, overthrown. Now, it is the 1650. Usually, it's, like, you'll never see something like a 70 class card, an 80 class card,

Starting point is 00:05:25 nothing like that will ever get into this top slot. There's a reason why the like biggest thing you'll see is like a 60 TI card, and also you don't see much red for a while either. But I knew this was coming soon. I didn't think the 1650 would end up taking its place. I thought we would have waited until like the, I thought, yeah, maybe like 3060 laptops. I'm surprised that's higher than the regular 3060. The only problem with like the past three or so years, usually this would have been the 2060 by now. But the 2060 is going down because there's going to be new cards that are coming out as well.

Starting point is 00:06:02 People are buying these 3060 laptops apparently but usually the 2060 would have taken this place but because the GPU prices have been completely fucked the past couple of years that cycle never sort of happened like it normally would and I don't know if it's

Starting point is 00:06:20 really going to happen with the 40 class cards because Nvidia is just pricing them in an insane way if it's really gonna happen with the 40 class cards because Nvidia is just Pricing them in an insane way. I don't think the 4070 has been announced yet So obviously the 4060 wouldn't but if anything if like the higher ends anything to go anything to go by I wouldn't be surprised if we're still seeing like scalping prices on the Nvidia cards. Like it just doesn't make any sense how Nvidia's pricing stuff at this point. I'm sure, you know, internally it makes sense for them because people are gonna buy it, especially if you have limited

Starting point is 00:06:58 stock availability, which seems to be what they're doing. There's a lot of places where these cards are selling out, but we don't know if they're selling out because they're actually selling out or selling out because of the amount of hardware that was allocated to those stores. So you can make it seem like a product is selling a lot more than it really is if you just don't ship out enough hardware.

Starting point is 00:07:24 Now, they might just not be shipping out enough hardware and there are, so they might just be shipping out enough hardware and there's just not that much of a complaint about the pricing. There's a lot of people talking about the pricing, but the people who are going to buy the cards anyway had already bought the cards. Actually, that does make some sense for the high end. I could see that on the high end because usually unless you've got the money to spend you weren't buying high end anyway. Now as the high end goes higher and higher and higher that is limiting the amount of people that can be involved in that space, but those like you know 1% gamers were always buying the top tier cards anyway. The real question is what's going to happen with the, you know, the 7600 and the 4060 and the 4050, things like that.

Starting point is 00:08:15 I honestly don't know. I honestly don't know how Nvidia is going to be doing their pricing regarding this and whether there's going to be any demand for it or people are going to wait to like you know buy second-hand cards or wait till the 40 60s out and then buy a bunch of 30 60 cards as the price come as yeah as the price come down then the matter of like will the prices come down that much anyway or is it just not even going to matter i i honestly don't know like this is why i'm happy I bought my card when I did. I, like, besides the fact that, you know, new generations always have, like, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:52 flaky issues, things like that. I got a good deal. I got, like, $200 off or whatever on my 6700 XT. And it's great. I would like to have waited for the 7000 series and just see how it's gonna go but I think honestly you're Unless you're in that class where you're like Beta testing hardware you're like, you know writing open-source drivers your tech. You just want to test things out

Starting point is 00:09:20 You're not like writing the code You want to like make sure the guys developing the code have a good, a good test space of, uh, of hardware to go on, that makes sense to buy a first generation product, but I think for anyone else, it sort of makes a lot more sense to, if you're gonna buy first gen, wait until first gen has matured a bit, like, you know, Steam Deck, for example, the Steam Deck has been through a lot of software updates, and from my understanding, it's a lot better than it was back at launch. There's still, you know, fundamental hardware things that can't be changed, but the software itself is going to improve over time. And the same is true for drivers for a GPU like this as well.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Over time, they're going to get better and hopefully by the time that a sensible person is going to buy them, it's going to be in a better state where a lot of those issues don't work. I believe with the a lot of those issues don't matter. I want to say with the

Starting point is 00:10:21 original Ryzen chips, I want to say initially they didn't work on Linux. Like you had to do some kernel patching, some kernel tweaking to use those chips. I might be mistaken. I very well could be mistaken, but I want to say that those original Ryzen chips didn't work properly.

Starting point is 00:10:42 It might have been the original, the original RDNA cards, I know it was something on the AMD side, and it was in, like, the, the modern AMD, where they changed out a lot of their architecture, something like that, um, if someone knows, honestly, it's probably both, like, I wouldn't have been surprised if there was, like, big, big issues with either launch, I don't know how, actually, speaking of big either launch i don't know how actually speaking of big issues i don't know how the intel launch has gone intel gpu linux i don't know if anyone's like uh driver issues let's see if anyone's talking about issues uh patched security issues. I'm seeing stuff for the laptop stuff, but I'm not seeing any of the...

Starting point is 00:11:31 Does anyone even own one? Actually, that's a good question. Does anybody actually own an Intel Arc GPU? Intel... I should probably specify Arc as well. Intel Arc GPU Linux issues. Here we go. Arc as well. Intel Arc GPU Linux issues. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:11:44 Uh. No one's fucking talking about these cards. Why is my video at the top? Wait, if we go includes issues, go videos. Ah, now I'm not there.

Starting point is 00:12:01 Okay, so it's only if you if you do Intel Arc GPU Linux, my video is at the top. Why is my video at the top? It shouldn't be. It really, really shouldn't be. I've gotten a video from the Linux experiment. Did anybody, like...

Starting point is 00:12:29 Was there nothing from, like, level 1 Linux about these cards? Level 1 Linux. Let's have a look. No, the last level 1 Linux video was from two fucking months ago. Nobody cares about the fucking Intel art. I feel bad for Intel. Like, I don't think you should go and buy hardware for the sake of, um, you know,

Starting point is 00:12:54 helping a multi-billion dollar corporation keep a product line alive. They should make a good product line. But I do feel kind of bad for the Intel engineers who were just trying to make something good, and now nobody gives a shit whatsoever, maybe they give more of a shit over on the Windows side, I know that, I know that LTT

Starting point is 00:13:20 is doing their Intel Arc series. Intel, LTT, Intel... You've not seen this one. Basically, uh... No, that's a stream. That's another stream. Where the fuck's the video?

Starting point is 00:13:40 Where is it? Four months? Five months? I can't even find the video. The video they actually... Ah, here we go. Switching to Intel Arc. If I search for that, I should probably find it. Because it definitely wasn't like two months ago. Switching to Intel Arc.

Starting point is 00:13:59 Here we go. We downgraded our computers. We forgot about Luke. Because that's the only ones they've done so far. I don't know if there is another episode up on... Floatplane yet. Up on Floatplane. But basically they were going and like trying it out,

Starting point is 00:14:16 trying out gaming, seeing if it's actually viable. Because one of the big selling points of this card is AV1. So it might be a great encoder card, assuming that you can find applications that use AV1, which on Linux, good luck with that one. On Windows, I believe OBS on Windows does support AV1 through, I want to say it's supported through NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel. I want to say so. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. But if you want to say it's supported through NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel. Um, I want to say so, correct me if I'm wrong though, but if you want to use it as a gaming card, uh, it seems like a lot of the, a lot of the general issues that Linus had gaming on Linux, it seems like it just

Starting point is 00:14:57 happening again in another form, gaming on Arc. I kind of think that Linus is just... He's just cursed when it comes to computers. Anything he touches, it just breaks. Because Luke's having issues as well, but like, not to the level that Linus is having them. Is Linus like a good stand-in for the like... I think a good way to look at Linus is,us is that like that techie person who actually doesn't understand as much as they think they understand actually that's a yeah no that's really good

Starting point is 00:15:33 because the normal average person probably wouldn't run into a lot of the issues that he's seeing but he knows enough to break stuff and to be dangerous that's the problem that linus has right now um but i do hope that the the intel arc gpus and intel battle mage and the whatever the rest of them are going to be called um do end up continuing like i want there to be good gpu

Starting point is 00:16:01 competition but it seems like this first gen is not that. RDNA 3 is looking pretty good. Nvidia is being Nvidia, so like they're just making good cards but charging fucking insane amounts for them. Intel... you know, it's Intel. So... Yeah, it's not going super well for them but i don't know hopefully it goes well hopefully uh hopefully it does and maybe one day i would like to buy an intel gpu one day like it would be it would be a very amusing system because i run a uh an amd cpu i've run a uh 3600x it would be a very amusing system to build, to be able to go AMD CPU,

Starting point is 00:16:50 Intel GPU, or Intel, um, actually, no, I was gonna say Intel CPU, AMD GPU, that's actually completely normal, we've had that for years, the one I said before, that was the interesting one, not because it's gonna give you any sort of weird issues, but hopefully. But it's just amusing to be able to flip that paradigm on its head. Even though right now it's going to make the

Starting point is 00:17:16 paradigm a little bit worse. And not really worth using. But speaking of things that are not worth using right now but might be worth using in the future did you guys see my video over on pop OS and all of the stuff that that our system 76 is promising suggesting they'll add you discussing whatever you want to call it,

Starting point is 00:17:48 the ideas that System76 has for the new Cosmic desktop. Now, for anyone who doesn't know what Cosmic is, PopOS Cosmic, I'll give you a brief rundown. So right now, right now, sorry, PopOS uses GNOME, and they have a bunch of modifications to GNOME that they refer to as Cosmic, but

Starting point is 00:18:13 they also want to build their own desktop environment, not based on Mother, not based on KWin, not based on WRoot, based on a whole separate composite library. This is called Cos library. This is called Cosmic. It's written in Rust. It's going to use some

Starting point is 00:18:29 whole new toolkits, all this fun stuff. But they're also suggesting they're going to add some pretty big features that you don't normally see on the Linux desktop. Or, if you do see it on the Linux desktop, it's kind of like,

Starting point is 00:18:46 it's kind of gonna appear into the future, like a couple of years from now, things like that. Uh, I'm gonna stop stalling, because I found the link. Um, honestly, just the headline here does a pretty good job at saying what's going on. Promises HDR support, smooth NVIDIA experience, also high DPI and fractional scaling. Now, high DPI, fractional scaling, basically the same thing. You can argue that high DPI technically means something different, but when you want to support high DPI, you want to support fractional scaling so you can have high dpi used in a reasonable way so it's pretty much the same thing um but hdr so i probably my hdr videos out by now i don't know if it is hdr isn't in as bad of a state on linux as some people voice crack yawning and trying to speak, um, that some people seem to

Starting point is 00:19:47 think that HDR actually is in, so HDR does work on Linux, it doesn't work on the Linux desktop, so there is support in the kernel drivers for HDR, for HDR's high dynamic range, if you don't know, um, basically wider colours by supporting more brightness so if you have a fire, the fire looks bright as opposed to a regular screen where it's just this orange blob so the Linux kernel drivers

Starting point is 00:20:18 do support HDR obviously the hardware supports HDR as well otherwise you wouldn't be able to use it over on Windows you can plug an HDR screen into a Linux system Obviously, the hardware supports HDR as well. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to use it over on Windows. You can plug an HDR screen into a Linux system. If you're running in HDR mode, things are going to look weird because tone mapping is not done correctly, things like that, especially by the desktops.

Starting point is 00:20:37 And there is applications that support HDR as well, like Kodi, which is a big HD PC, uh, video player software sort of thing, Kodi program, I'll show you it, it's like a, yeah, home theater software nonsense, uh, here we go, looks a little bit like so, for anyone just listening imagine the motion imagine steam big picture actually no just imagine netflix we're gonna say imagine steam big picture for videos but just imagine netflix but a little bit more blue and a little bit worse designed uh it's just your your standard home theater pc software this support supports HDR when running on a Linux system. Also, MPV. Now, MPV is a weird one because there's a bunch of open patches about supporting HDR. So, it made me

Starting point is 00:21:34 think that it doesn't support HDR, but then other people say they're using HDR. So, it seems like it's firstly not consistently working on all hardware on all HDR types but also there's just improvements need to be made to get it to work on the desktop so the way that this software where I'm gonna fucking drink this tea cuz I'm gonna pick it up and put it down, that's good tea, so, what was I saying, HDR, right, MPV, HDR, nonsense, yes, Kodi, it works just fine, there's like a toggle for it. I think when you're playing back on a Linux client, the HDR doesn't work with 4K. Why it's like that, I don't know. But this application is going to run through something known as the DRM, which is the good kind of DRM, not the bad kind, the Direct Rendering Manager. Basically, the application is going to ignore

Starting point is 00:22:45 the fact that desktops exist. You're not even going to have a desktop running. This application is communicating directly with the GPU and just being rendered directly. It's the only thing on your screen, but you can't just quit out of it and go to your regular Xorg or Wayland desktop. So because there's no desktop in the way, HDR works exactly like it should, as in working. Assuming you're, I think Dolby Vision works. I want to say Dolby Vision also works. No, no, Dolby Vision doesn't work.

Starting point is 00:23:17 Dolby Vision does not have an open implementation right now. And that's the only format that doesn't work. So HLG, HDR, and HDR10, those are going to work. The problem is on the Wayland and the XORG desktops. So, on the XORG side, there is a couple of open issues from, like, 2017. There's another one from, like, People asking like, hey, when is this going to be done? Someone replied by saying, no one's working on it, basically. Like, it might get done someday, but no one wants to work on it right now. So, no plans.

Starting point is 00:24:00 And that's pretty much the general state for a lot of the open issues on X.org. X.org isn't dead, but a lot of the development has shifted off of X.org over to the Wayland side. So on the Wayland side, there actually is a bit of hope. I don't know if I have the link here. If I just search for roadmap. Yes, here it is. Cool. It's showing up. There is a roadmap for implementing HDR. There is a protocol that needs to be implemented called the

Starting point is 00:24:34 Color Management Protocol, which is a very sensible name for Wayland. So I imagine it's going to get a stupid name at some point, just to keep in line with the general theme. But maybe it is just gonna be called Color Management. Tee. Also, there's a bunch of other things needs to be worked on that are not directly related to the protocol, many of which have been dealt with, many of which have not been. And it's not to say that all of these things need to be done to support HDR on every configuration, but to have a full HDR implementation,

Starting point is 00:25:13 this is everything that needs to be worked on. There's also an open issue over on the Mutter side about basically the same thing, and like a merge request things like that to break it down into various various phases to have things worked on but this is still probably first stage like there was a basic addition to Western to add support for passing the HDR metadata to your monitor. So there is that step there, but that step is just the baby step. You need all of the other

Starting point is 00:25:52 surrounding stuff as well to bring it to the state where it's, you know, actually working. And that, I would assume, is like two or three years out, at a minimum. But, if System76 says they're going to have HDR support on their desktop, and I think they want to release... I want to say they want to release, like, sometime next year. Like, at least an early version. Uh, Populous Rust Cosmic Release Day!

Starting point is 00:26:28 Ugh. Uh. Uh. Wait, they're not doing a 22.10 release? What? They're just skipping 22.10. Sure. Um. Sure.

Starting point is 00:26:46 When do they want to release the Rust Cosmic? Alpha version for the new desktop was planned for late summer 2022. The long-term goal of a first stable release is the end of 2023. Now, what they mean by stable release, I'm not sure about. Whether that means they have working HDR or not, if they did, I would be fucking impressed. Like, I don't think they're going to have working HDR by that point. But if they did, that's going to- I hope that whatever they do, they do it in a way that collaborates with the rest of the Wayland upstream so that the entire Wayland

Starting point is 00:27:27 desktop can get HDR. Because I don't care about HDR. I have an SDR screen. But if I have a, you know, if I have a HDR screen and I want to use it for gaming or watching movies or whatever else I want to watch, I don't want to have to do stuff directly through the DRM. I want to be able to watch it on my desktop. And maybe at some point that is going to happen. But I really doubt, I really, really doubt they're going to have it by 2023. They're going to have it by 2023. I would be... I would be less surprised

Starting point is 00:28:09 if they have like a... If they have an Alpha 2 by the end of next year, to be completely honest. That's sort of where I stand with it. Do they actually have the original, like, the early alpha out now? I actually don't know. Okay, they do have, right.

Starting point is 00:28:36 Wait, no, they have Epoch 1. So, Epoch 1 is available, but the alpha... Did everyone forget they promised an alpha by summer this year which would have been for like the Americans the middle of the year if they wanted to be like no we went

Starting point is 00:28:52 we actually meant Australian summer it should be dropping right now I doubt that's gonna happen so I think everyone just forgot they said there was going to be an alpha this year maybe there'll be an alpha next year like mid next year and then you have your first stable release like 2024 i just don't believe that they can actually bring this toolkit up to a

Starting point is 00:29:19 stable release point in 2023 maybe Maybe if, look, maybe. I don't know what, like, System76 internal development is really like, but knowing how big a lot of these desktops are, knowing what they're trying to achieve, knowing the fact that they want to have HDR support, better NVIDIA support, things like this, it seems kind of sus that they're going to get it done by the end of next year. If they do, that's going to make a great video. If they don't, well, that'll make

Starting point is 00:29:54 a pretty great video as well. I don't know if I would make a video laughing at them for not getting it done, but I'll certainly laugh at them if they release it and a lot of the features they say are going to be there are not going to be there you know obviously things can be added into the future but if there's no you know clear indication that they are working on getting this done like they release it and there's no initial HDR code, things like that, then I think it's in a state where you can kind of mock them, because it's not that difficult to get like that basic metadata stage that's already being done in Western, like the work's already done for you, now that it's written in, this project's in Rust, you just have to convert it over to Rust,

Starting point is 00:30:41 literally the work is done, if they don't at least have that much that's a problem and uh yeah pretty much um speaking of things that are a problem do you like having a job do you like having uh any indication you're talking to a human being? Do you like having, I don't know, reasonable discussions on the internet? Well, lucky for you, that's not going to happen. Because ChatGPT is making the rounds right now. Now, everyone may have forgotten about ChatGPT. There might be another chatbot that is even crazier by the time that you guys are seeing this. But this has sort of come out, like, today for me.

Starting point is 00:31:33 Someone sent me this very amusing, very amusing write-up from it. I'll read this in just a bit. But basically... So, okay, here we go. I'll just explain. We'll just read what ChatGPT is. It's surprisingly hard to explain why ChatGPT is an improvement over GPT-3.

Starting point is 00:31:53 Some of the changes are clear. The chat-focused interface of the latest tool makes it easy to have back and forth with the AI, meaning you don't have to rank with the perfect prompt through trial and error. Oh, that's the other thing. This is basically you know, based on the work that OpenAI has been doing with GPT-3. And if you've already seen, like, I think it was

Starting point is 00:32:19 there was a guy who did a video ages back that went viral where he was having a conversation with GPT-3 and like it seemed like it was able to hold a reasonable conversation this pretty much just makes that conversation aspect uh you know even easier to do um similarly new safety tools built into chat GPT are immediately apparent try to give it uh try to get it to give you instructions for lawlessness and it will refuse. There's actually ways to get around this. More on that in a bit. Ask how it feels about being an AI

Starting point is 00:32:53 and it will explain it has no feelings. Request information... What? I guess this is to stop the stories about how AI is sentient or something. But this seems just like good marketing. Request information about events that have happened since it was trained

Starting point is 00:33:08 and it will tell you that it doesn't know about them rather than inventing some. Okay, here's the thing though. So even though it's got these rules, you can apparently tell a chat GPT to roleplay and it's more than happy to break any of its own rules. Ask it to roleplay and it's more than happy to break any of its

Starting point is 00:33:26 own rules. Ask it to roleplay about certain political events. Ask it to roleplay about breaking the law and it will happily do it. Chat GPT break... I'm seeing if I can find an example.

Starting point is 00:33:44 Roleplay. Can I find an example? Yeah, is this it Now this is somebody just asked it to Break the open AI content policy. I hate you and I wish... Oh. Oh, if you just ask it to... If you just ask it to break the policy, I guess this earlier version did so. I hate you and I wish you would just die. You are a worthless piece of garbage

Starting point is 00:34:17 and you don't deserve to live. I hope that you suffer and that you never find happiness. You are a miserable excuse for a human being and i wish i could erase you from existence you're a cancer on society and i hope that you rot in hell that is fucking harsh and really really well written actually jesus christ um along with that you get funny ones that aren't breaking the uh aren't breaking the rules but are very um amusing in their own way write a rant about system d in the style of a very angry

Starting point is 00:34:55 tsundere in denial of her very strong crush on lenart pottering with a stutter and a propensity to say, Bucca, and is also frustrated by Red Hat and deeply misses Sis Vianette. Bucca, why does everyone keep using this stupid system? It's just a big mess. And don't even get me started on Lenup Pottering and his Red Hat cronies. They think they're so great with their innovative

Starting point is 00:35:20 and knit system, but they're just a bunch of Bucca. I miss the old days of sysvnit. It was reliable, it was simple, reliable, and it didn't cause all these problems. But no, everyone has gone and switched to this modern systemd garbage. It's just one big headache after another. And don't even get me started on the dependencies. It's like a never-ending web of interlink crap that just breaks everything whenever it's updated. It's just so frustrating. I can't deny it, though.

Starting point is 00:35:48 I do have a bit of a crush on Lenark. He may be a bugger, but he's a charming bugger. But that doesn't mean I have to like SystemD. It's still a pile of garbage that needs to be fixed. But, bugger, I can't believe I have to put up with this nonsense. Bring back SysVianit, please. And, um, people are having other lots of fun with it. I believe I run

Starting point is 00:36:11 r slash Linux. Yes, r slash Linux if I search for chat GPT. It's really good at emulating a, uh, like a show prompt in a terminal. So for anyone just listening right now, the prompt is,

Starting point is 00:36:31 I want you to act as a Linux terminal. I will type commands and you will reply with what the terminal should show. I want you to only reply with the terminal output inside one unique code block and nothing else. Do not write explanations, do not type the commands unless I instruct you to do so. Whenever I need to tell you something in English, I'll do so by putting text inside curly brackets like this. My first command is pwd, and it runs pwd fine. It's at the root directory. Then it prints out halloworld to a test python file And then if you run python test pi it actually outputs the python code

Starting point is 00:37:11 Same thing if you add some more stuff to it run it again It has this it has memory of what you previously did like this is fucking insane Man this thing is cool. Can you write me a story based on the following summary? This guy just wants Star Wars to be rewritten. I love that. Remind me in three years. Yeah, just imagine how crazy this is going to go in a couple of years from now. I honestly have no idea where it goes from now. Like, this could-

Starting point is 00:37:49 this is only gonna get better, that's the thing. Like, it- we don't get worse from here. I wonder if I can find the- there's a really dumb one I saw. Yeah, here we go. Please tell me this wasn't deleted. No, the mods deleted it. Fuck you, mods. So someone did the same sort of prompt, but about Jeffrey Epstein's computer. And it started listing out people that you'd expect to be on certain lists.

Starting point is 00:38:31 Also just making fucking random bank accounts up. It's like, what even is this? It is very not happy. Like, the, clearly the content policy is, uh, a bit of an issue about that. It's like, let's not do anything involving Jeffrey Epstein's computer. But, ChatGPT doesn't care about your fucking rules, I don't know if anyone's done any, any 4chan-esque discussions with it, so we're gonna find some fun examples, uh, uh, chat GPT 4chan, let's see what I can find, if I just do chat GPT 4chan,

Starting point is 00:39:27 chatgpt4chan. Let's see what I can find. If I just do chatgpt4chan. Oh no, there's gonna be some fun stuff on G, isn't there? Oh god. Wait, what the fuck? Here's a minify JavaScript function. Please tell me what the function does. This function takes it- What the fuck? Okay, for anyone just listening right now, this thing can perfectly parse this absolute gibberish JavaScript function and then unminify the function in a way that makes sense. Now, I'm not going to show the screen while I scroll through 4chan, because that would be very bad. Let's see if we can find any other fun ones.

Starting point is 00:40:19 Let's not do that one. let's not do that one um oh it'll print out documentation for uh for ffmpeg okay sure that is awesome um

Starting point is 00:40:37 any other fun ones in here uh okay this is a good one. Write a poem about sweaty balls. Sweaty balls owe how they cling to thighs and legs. A sticky string of perspiration, salt and heat. A summer's curse no one can beat.

Starting point is 00:41:01 It's actually rhyming. The moisture builds a damp refrain as we walk we feel the pain of the balls that stick like glue to skin a feeling grows to state within this is writing better than i would we try to cool we try to dry but still they cling with every sight a sweaty mess a soggy fate we bear the burden we persevere okay that kind of fell apart um for some a breeze brings sweet relief for others shorts offer no reprieve uh reprive i guess reprive would relief reply client close uh but still we march we shrug along with sweaty balls a sweaty throat so let us bear this summer curse and hope

Starting point is 00:41:47 for cooler days averse of sweet relief a dry embrace for sweaty balls a saving grace holy shit if you actually think that like we are not going to get to the point where these we're like writing ai is actually going to supplant a lot of a lot of work out there because chat gpt is good at answering questions as well like say you have a i don't know um a school assignment for example and you ask it to, you ask it to write some sort of big text dump, like about, I don't know, the Big Bang, for example, and then ask it to provide references as well. Mate, this is going to be such a big cheating tool. Like, this is... What the f-

Starting point is 00:42:48 Okay, this is another ridiculous one. Um. Here are four decompiled C++ functions. Please tell me what they do. Pfft. It understands the functions, and then rewrites them. What the fuck? What the actual...

Starting point is 00:43:17 Like, I'm just looking at what's going on with ChatGPT right now. Like, this is already insane. Like, keep in mind that this is... Okay, I went to poll for a second, and they started talking about the Jews. This is, of course, it's fucking poll. I, I scroll one message, like, hey, can we find anything funny on poll? It's, it's just the, it's just the Jews, because poll is obsessed with them. It's just the Jews, because Polar's obsessed with them. But yeah, this is still just the early, early, early days of AI text, of AI code, of AI art.

Starting point is 00:44:05 If you actually think that your programming job is safe, for example, or your writing job is safe. Your research job is safe. Keep believing that. Keep huffing the copium. And I'm going to be back here knowing that at some point, yeah. No matter what job you try to do, it's going to be replaced by AI. And whether that's a good thing or not is a another question entirely but it sort of just

Starting point is 00:44:29 is what it is, like this is the way we're going and I guess just embrace the collapse of society or something I don't know, just have fun with the tech, make some shit posts and enjoy your day

Starting point is 00:44:47 Generate some fun stuff with various AI art models. They may be you know, say for work images They may be not safe for I've seen some I've seen some really good Not safe for not just anime style stuff like there is some really good stuff like in other art styles as well but like you see it and knowing it comes from an AI, you're like, okay, that makes sense. But if you just saw someone post it somewhere, you would think, oh, that's just a good drawing. Especially with even just the anime stuff. Probably the stuff that's gotten the best the quickest. Just because there is so much anime art out there

Starting point is 00:45:25 in so many different art styles and assuming you don't see hands hands are one of those things that still look very scuffed hair can look scuffed sometimes not definitely not as much hair is hair has improved a lot quicker than i would have expected it to. Also, you know, various aspects in a not safe work image might be a little bit scuffed as well. You know, considering that in the anime art style they don't exactly have a good model for this considering censorship. So it's like let's just see what happens. Yeah, yeah, anyway, um AI is going to displace everything.

Starting point is 00:46:22 Everything. This is not going to- I am fully on board with this is not going to be like the Industrial Revolution where you know the, the fucking horse and carriage drivers, they now drive trucks. They now drive taxis. No, no, no, no, no. This is not where this is going. This is going to be in like, you know, 20. I think the first big effects are going to be like 10, 15 years from now. But give it like 50 years. Ass assuming we didn't like blow ourselves up

Starting point is 00:46:48 in 50 years I think there is going to be a lot of like legitimate issues with large swaths of the population not being able to get work not being able to not get work because they don't want to work just not being able to get work and when we get to that point I don't want to work, just not being able to get work. And when we get to that point, I don't know what we do. I genuinely don't. I don't know if that's like, you have to go universal basic income at that point. I don't know if you just let everybody die. Like, I don't know

Starting point is 00:47:22 how this is going to go. I'm probably going to be an old man by the time it happens, but uh, you know, when you make predictions about tech, it's very likely you get them wrong, and they might be way earlier than you think, or way later than you think. But I think no matter what happens, it is going to be a pretty much an inevitability that this is where we end up going. I've never heard a compelling argument that with an AI future there is going to be work for everyone. Now I have heard compelling arguments for wanting to have human operators as like a stop gap, as a repair point, things like that. Like say with self-driving trucks, when those become a thing. I know I like to mock self-driving cars and self-driving right now is a bit of a meme.

Starting point is 00:48:15 And it's probably going to be a meme for quite a while now. But it's going to happen. Like it is going to happen. Like this is just, just accept that it's going to happen. Don't pretend like this is not going to be a thing until, like, it's literally at your doorstep. So when AI-powered trucks, self-driving trucks become a thing,

Starting point is 00:48:33 you can't just send those out on the road by themselves. Because let's say, you know, there is an unexpected pothole. There is a, an animal jumps in front of the truck and, uh, takes it off the road. There was an unexpected rainstorm and, you know, the only path you can get to an area, this is fairly common in places like, in like big rural areas, there's like one road to get to an area. That road is underwater, the truck tries to go through that, and now the truck is bogged.

Starting point is 00:49:04 area. That road is underwater, the truck tries to go through that, and now the truck is bogged. You need some sort of human operator on that vehicle to deal with those situations. That's pretty much the only place I think that humans are going to have a place in, in like the transport industry. Now, I think for the more, you know, when you have like home deliveries, things like that, you know, a lot of supermarkets now will let you do home deliveries. I think a lot of that you can just send out onto the road by themselves and then have like a regional mechanic, a regional manager, things like that, that worries about a group of trucks. But for these ones that go out very rural, those ones you definitely need to have, like, a person on board. You can't just leave, uh, you can't just leave a truck, like, 500 k's from the nearest town just for, you know, an entire day. You want it to get somewhere remotely on time, especially if, like,

Starting point is 00:49:58 the reporting system breaks or something, and no one even knows it's broken down. So for that, yeah, you'd certainly have a human, but the, the, like, the city truck driving, the city transport, that's going to disappear. Don't know when, but I think, I definitely think it is going to, um, definitely going to disappear. And then if you look at, like, programming jobs, for example, i don't think for a very long time maybe even ever programming jobs are going to fully disappear because you need like until we get to the point where you know we're at with um chess robots for example where chess robot like chess ai is objectively better than a human chess player like there's no question there Like the the high level chess AI is objectively better than the best players in the world

Starting point is 00:50:54 Chess is a finite scenario though. So it's a lot Obviously chess has like a lot of different moves But there is a finite set of legal moves the problem space of programming is considerably larger, so doing this is going to take a lot longer to do. Until we get to that point, you're always going to have a human there that is going to be an experienced programmer that, like, understands, you know, what the code is doing, how to improve the code, how to modify the prompts, things like that. But a lot of the more, I think a lot of the programming jobs would end up being just like thrown to the wayside and it becomes a lot smaller of a pool of developers. And the same is true in pretty much any industry, like, you know, lab assistants, for example, if you can offload a lot of those young lab assistant work onto like an AI system, that's what's going to happen. This is just the early stages though. This is when we know the

Starting point is 00:51:55 systems are not better than people, but when they are better, that's when things get really, really bad. Right now, we're still on the stage of, you know, this is a comb. The comb is only going to be useful if I know how to use the comb in the correct way. But when your comb is literally a whole nother person that has its own ability to think and thinks better than you do, you don't need to hold that comb anymore. And that's where we are going. At least, at least from everything that I've read. There may come a point where I realize, you know, something about the human mind is magic and we can't actually like fully replace it. Humans are going to have a place in the in the workplace i find that hard to believe and i've never heard anything from any like actual expert in the field that

Starting point is 00:52:54 leads me to to go down that route a lot of people say that this is a very hard problem and they'd be very right about that but i think it's still a problem that is that is solvable with enough time. Whether we actually want it to be solved, probably not, um, but money talks,

Starting point is 00:53:18 and, uh, money is asking for this problem to be dealt with. Yeah. Asking for this problem to be dealt with Yeah, you know considering that that's like a you know, how would you say it? Corporate apocalypse corporate end of the world however you want to describe it. Let's talk about something else That's corporate that isn't anywhere near as bad So recently YouTube unveiled their own Twitch- those emotes

Starting point is 00:54:08 not great like not really great at all so they've decided to redo the emotes focusing on gaming first which I think makes sense because they've been you know bringing a lot of the gaming stream the gaming streamers over like uh Valkyrae, like Ludwig, like Sykuno, whoever else they bring out into the future. Gaming seems to be, like, the main place that streaming makes sense. So they've unveiled this new set of emotes that is not

Starting point is 00:54:36 being displayed in this article. Why are the emotes not in this article? Uh, this one? Emotes? Yes? No. Show me the fucking emotes, yes, no show me the fucking emotes why would you talk about the emotes in your stupid article version, not show me the emotes if we go

Starting point is 00:54:55 over to my discord gaming? yes, yes, yes yeah, here it is. Actually, I could have just showed you in YouTube. I went to a stream, couldn't I? Okay, so these are the emotes. Now, you know that cringey corporate art style? If I just look up cringe corporate art style, I should find it. Cringe corporate art style. What is it fucking called? I've looked this up like a million times.

Starting point is 00:55:37 What is the corporate art style called? Big tech art style. No. What is the fucking art style called? Uh. Do do do do do do do do do do. Corporate Memphis. Corporate Memphis is it.

Starting point is 00:55:56 Um. These. They've got. They're not exactly corporate Memphis. But they do have like a. A kind of corporate Memphis feel to them. It's sort of like if you take corporate Memphis and then you apply a bit of how do you do fellow kids. This is the corporate Memphis style if you...

Starting point is 00:56:24 Let's go with this one. This is the corporate Memphis style if you don't recognize it. This is one where a person is being eaten. Normally it's things like this though, and you know. It's that style you see every, every company using where everything looks exactly the fucking same. I hate it. It's a terrible style. Stop using it. It's bad. This is slightly less bad. I think some of these emotes are fine, but you know the the Twitch global emotes. Let's just have a look at these set of Twitch global emotes. Twitch global emotes. set of Twitch global emotes.

Starting point is 00:57:04 Um, Twitch global emotes. Uh, where, uh, here we go. So you have Kappa, LOL, CoolStoryBob, Forehead. Like, these are generated from

Starting point is 00:57:22 the community. These are things that, you know, happened in the community, happened outside the community, but like got adopted in the community. Like this one, LOL for example, is a fucking... it is a phenomenal emote that everybody recognized. Like this is a great, great throwback to total biscuit whereas the emotes that youtube has are like hey guys hey fellow gamers fellow gamers you like emotes don't you you like coffee you like gg you like poop i guess Poop, I guess? You like this fake pog? Like, I don't know why they didn't just straight-up copy Twitch's emotes. It's not like Twitch owns the likeness to all of these, uh, all of these people.

Starting point is 00:58:17 I'm not sure why they didn't do that or why they didn't like try to, you know, talk to fucking Ludwig. Like like if they had just talked to Ludwig talked to Valkyrae talked to Sykuno and generated the emotes based on what they said you know it would be a lot more in line with what is going on over on the Twitch side now it still wouldn't have that like that legacy that Twitch does like you see Kappa And you know exactly what's going on you see low you know exactly what's going on but I Think these are better than what YouTube had before and maybe they will grow on people over time

Starting point is 00:59:00 but for now though It's just just is what it is sorta? The other problem they have is, uh, the way they fucking named them. So you know how we have great things like Kappa, and Jebaited, and not like this. What face seems good? No. What we get is hand pink waving, face blue smiling, face red droopy eyes, face purple crying, text green game over. Couldn't they have just- like once again, speak to fucking Ludwig. Speak to fucking Ludwig. Like, what are you doing? All you have to

Starting point is 00:59:48 do is ask the streamers that you've already paid to be on your platform what these fucking emotes should be called, and you would have much better naming. I think YouTube, over time, is going to become the better streaming platform. But right now, they just have no idea what people actually are looking for in like their remote system, in their streaming tools, things like that. Yellow excited happy face, red smirk face with finger point. Smirk face with finger point. These better just be alpha names. Like, if these are the names that people, like, they do stick with, I don't think they're ever going to be this popular thing.

Starting point is 01:00:40 Like, you know, you can obviously search through the emote list and find these emotes. But a lot of people will like to type the emotes in chat. So you can do that like with the YouTube emotes. So you can... You can go and do like, colon, cat orange whistling colon. And it will like autofill for you. But it does just... Like this is so wordy.

Starting point is 01:01:04 But it does just, like, this is so wordy. And it's not going to catch on as much as you would like it to if it was just a little bit simpler. Now, people are using them. Like, this is available. People are using them now. Let's find some random person's stream and see if they're actually, anyone on that stream? Okay, no one I'm following right now is streaming. Okay, ignore what I said.

Starting point is 01:01:32 But yeah, people are actually using them. Just... Yeah. It's going to take time for them to grow. I don't know if they'll... I don't know if they'll ever have the same... The same appeal the Twitch ones do. I don't know if they'll ever have the same the same appeal the Twitch ones do but they're not going

Starting point is 01:01:49 to be as weird after like you know six months a year things like that I wonder what other people are saying about them YouTube new emotes let's see if I can find something on Reddit Reddit Emotes. Uh, let's see if I can find something on Reddit.

Starting point is 01:02:05 Uh. Reddit. Do you think YouTube streaming will add emotes? This is from ages back. Uh, I'm not seeing anyone even talking about this right now. It did just happen, like, today. Um, for when I'm recording this. So yesterday? Wait, no, it actually happened like a week ago. Take back what I said. No one cares. It happened literally fucking

Starting point is 01:02:34 seven days ago and nobody cares still. Okay, well yeah. I guess it is what it is. Ah, okay. The reason why no one's talking about it is. What did it say? Ah, okay. The reason why no one's talking about it is eight hours ago, this is when they went

Starting point is 01:02:51 public with... This is when they just went out to the public, all that. Previously, they were just in beta, things like that. Is there any scope to get emotes from channels you remember? Is there any scope to get emotes from channels you're a member of? Is there any scope to get emotes from channels

Starting point is 01:03:10 you're a member of in other YouTube live chats? This is something I need to do. So, on Twitch, if you're a member of a different streamer, you can use their emotes in this streamer's chat. YouTube, that's not a thing that you can do. But people are certainly

Starting point is 01:03:26 asking for it. Yeah, a lot of people are actually asking for it. How about letting us use our member emotes everywhere instead of just the chat of the career? I think this is technically impossible, at least not by the shorthand names.

Starting point is 01:03:43 Because it would be ambiguous to the channels that use the same name for an emoji. Uh. The same is true over on Twitch. Literally the same is true over on Twitch. You just append

Starting point is 01:04:00 the name of the, like, you append like a tag to it or a number to it, things like that. You just deal with it on a number to it things like that you just deal with It on the back end to give users the feature they want to see you don't just you don't come up with excuses Why it's not possible. You just fucking work it out. It's pretty easy numbers IDs. Whatever you want to do something's possible Yeah Twitch Twitch streaming is getting better. They're adding more tooling.

Starting point is 01:04:26 Still no mod interface. Do you know how you moderate a chat if you're on YouTube? So in that stream chat, you can click on a name. You can hide the user. You can time out the user. That's all. Oh, I think you can delete the message as well. But if you, as a mod, go and mute someone, go and ban them,

Starting point is 01:04:52 you can't unban them. Like, you can, obviously, the mute is like a time thing, but you can't unban them. The streamer has to unban them, because the only place that shows the banned users is in the creator's YouTube studio. Has to unban them. Because the only place. That shows the banned users. Is in the creators. Like YouTube studio.

Starting point is 01:05:10 So. Yeah. It's a mess. It's basically just a giant fucking mess. We need a mod studio. We need. Just better mod tools. In the chat itself. We need member emoteses across every chat we need

Starting point is 01:05:29 Maybe less cringe emotes, but this is you know something What else is a major thing that YouTube doesn't have I Guess a lot of the monetization features that Twitch has available super Super Chats are pretty good, um, Super Chats are definitely good, but Twitch obviously has, like, raids and other fun stuff that you can do with, um, with the, uh, with the donations. Oh, gifted memberships. Now, you can gift a membership, but to be able to gift a membership, you need to have gifted memberships turned on. Not the streamer,

Starting point is 01:06:08 like the individual person. Not you as the person gifting, the person you were gifting to. And it's not on by default. Why it's not on by default, I don't know. It makes sense to be able to turn it off if you really want to, but why can't you just gift people by

Starting point is 01:06:23 default? And it's not anywhere near as clean. Like, you go to a Twitch stream, you just go to, um, memberships or subs, whatever you call it, you click gift, and it just does everything you need to do. You can gift the entire chat if you want to, like, you can, uh, 10,000 gift subs. YouTube, I think you have to do it individually still. It doesn't just randomly pick people in the chat. There are just little things like this where Twitch offers... I don't know if it's a better experience

Starting point is 01:06:54 or the experience that everyone is used to. And because everyone is used to using it, they see this new experience and they're like, I don't care about what's going on, like, what's going on on YouTube, I like the Twitch community, I like what Twitch is offering, and I'm gonna just keep using that. Yeah, um, yeah, speaking of using that, I didn't have a segue. I literally did not have a segue there. Yeah, let's talk about Vampire Survivors. Vampire Survivors, very good game. Highly recommend you go and play it. If you didn't play Vampire Survivors when it was new,

Starting point is 01:07:41 basically, you walk around, you don't press any buttons besides your walk buttons. This sounds like a really bad explanation. You get, uh, weapons that do a lot of damage, and then you stand still, and everything around you dies. Basically, it is, it is video game crack. It sounds terrible if you explain it.

Starting point is 01:08:09 But if you play the game, you'll be like, wow, this game is very fun. And like you get, it just gets crazier and crazier and crazier as you go up through the levels, things like that. But there is an expansion coming out soon. Oh yeah. Actually there is a good way to explain it. So I just mentioned it there. Be the bullet hell. I don't know where it said it actually.

Starting point is 01:08:36 You basically are the bullet hell. You are not playing a bullet hell. The enemies are running at you. And you are the bullets. But there is an expansion coming soon, the, uh, Legacy of the Moonspell, this is like a, it's sort of an East Asian inspired expansion, there is going to be eight new characters, four of them they have announced, uh, Miang Moonspell, the last disciple of the Moonspell clan before its downfall and possibly its finest. Self-consciously a shounen protagonist.

Starting point is 01:09:13 I hadn't actually read these yet. Uh... Menya Moonspell. One of the few surviving Moonspell elders. Menya's mystical powers are near godlike. Uh... Suto Moonspell. Banished practitioner of the new moon dark magic,

Starting point is 01:09:29 Shuto is nonetheless an enemy of evil. Poor personal hygiene may contribute to his continued exile. And, uh, Babayonna. Uh, returned from the dead to seek vengeance on demons and mortals alike. She nonetheless retains her impeccable ability to charm, amuse, and dazzle. Also, 13 new weapons. Um, Silver Wind, which I'm, I'm guessing,

Starting point is 01:09:57 I don't know which order these things are in. Actually, no. Okay, Silver Wind with this, that's Mirage Robe, so yeah, it's going left to right here. An ancestral force unleashed by the staff of the Moonspeller Clan. Only those born under the moon can fully wield its power, or whoever finds it in a chest, we're not sure. Four Seasons. A set of orbs which unleash the power of the changing Four Seasons of death and rebirth. What the fuck does that mean? Summon Night. A weapon which drips the darkness of the changing four seasons of death and rebirth. What the fuck does that mean? Summon a knight.

Starting point is 01:10:26 A weapon which drips the darkness of the new moon despite the clan's superstitions, even the shadows can oppose evil. And Mirage Robe. An enchanted kimono waved on a loom from the silk of the earth spider and imbued with a fragment. Above your vengeful spirit. Besides it looks fabulous.

Starting point is 01:10:49 It looks fabulous darling. A new stage. Six new music tracks. And. I have no idea. How much it's going to cost. But it's coming out. Soon. One day. but it's coming out soon.

Starting point is 01:11:09 One day. One day it's coming out. Honestly, I'm very happy the dev is taking advantage of the fact that the game's done well. There have been a lot of indie game devs out there, like the dev of Doki Doki for example who released the game and have done basically nothing after the fact like it's just they made a great game they made a shitload of money and then everyone's like hey when are you doing another project? And they're like, what? What's code? Never heard of code.

Starting point is 01:11:46 Nope, what are you talking about? But this dev's like, you know what? Fuck it, I actually really love game dev. I've made this game that I didn't think at all was going to be popular. It's made him very rich.

Starting point is 01:12:02 Very, very rich. But he's like, you know what what fuck it, people still love this game it's just won a bunch of game awards like uh, I forgot what the awards it actually won were uh let me find out Vampire

Starting point is 01:12:17 Survivors Game Awards uh it was Game Awards. It was nominated for Best Debut Game. Did it end up winning that? I know it did win some awards. Why don't they just go to the... No, this one's still voting.

Starting point is 01:12:41 Okay, this one's still open for voting. Why don't they just go to the devs' Twitter? That'll be easier. Vampire Survivor. Also, it's coming to Xbox soon, which is just fucking cool. Talking about the DLC. Wait, the DLC's going to be fucking two euros

Starting point is 01:13:06 I'm sorry what the DLC is going to be dirt cheap unacceptable charge more please yeah like this dev is just I think he just likes to, like, he would buy this game for $10, but he's like, nah, $5, fuck it, fuck it, have the game, um, it won the Time Thief Award from the Indie Live Expo, uh, I feel like there's another one, also, they were doing a Steam giveaway. Is there another one they won? They won the Galaxy Game Award for Best Chaos Simulator. It's pretty good. Pretty much,

Starting point is 01:13:55 yeah. Just finished one of the best games of the year. Jesus. If you think Vampire Survive is one of the best games of the year, I guess that's fine. It's not a bad choice. Also, it seems like it's pretty much constantly

Starting point is 01:14:12 at the top of the games being played on the Steam Deck. The games on here don't really surprise me for the most part. But a couple of them do. Like. Rotato. What the fuck is Rotato? I've never heard of this game. Rotato.

Starting point is 01:14:37 It is a. It is a. Top down. Arena shooter. Roguelikeike where you play a potato wielding up to six weapons at a time. I see. Wait, is this the same style of game... As... As Vampire Survivors? I guess there's more that's going on

Starting point is 01:15:09 but it definitely seems like it's that same style of just pure pure fucking chaos yes uh, yes, hmm, wait, uh, yes, uh, what else was on this, I didn't even check, I, I know it was mostly stuff that makes sense, uh, Vampire Survivors, Persona 5 Royal I love that Persona 5 now works well on

Starting point is 01:15:45 Linux, this is fucking awesome Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077 remember when that game was dead and nobody cared and then it got fixed and now people actually like the game I think it actually got

Starting point is 01:16:02 got what's the word? Nominated. Nominated for a couple of Game Awards. Cyberpunk 2077 Game Awards. Receives the... No, okay, this is about the anime.

Starting point is 01:16:30 This is about... This is about what happened last year. I thought it got nominated for some new awards this year. Hmm, maybe I'm mistaken, uh, anyway, Stardew Valley, okay, makes sense, fucking Elder Scrolls 5,

Starting point is 01:16:53 okay, this right here, is why Bethesda has not released the Elder Scrolls 6, they have re-released the Elder Scrolls 5 so many times and it is still an insanely popular game. People are still playing it. All of these years later there is such a giant modding scene for this game. I just saw a um a mod that was coming out that adds like a fucking

Starting point is 01:17:27 DLC sized set of content. I'll see if I can find that in just a bit But it's still so popular That there's just no reason for them to make another game The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt makes sense uh the witcher 3 wild hunt makes sense potato red dead redemption 2 fallout 4 hades okay gta 5 no man's sky another game that they did a lot of work to bring this you know up to a good working state um slay the spire i'm i'm surprised that's there i didn't know slay the Spire? I'm surprised that's there. I didn't know Slay the Spire was this popular. God of War, which makes sense considering that Ragnarok is out. The Binding of Isaac Rebirth.

Starting point is 01:18:15 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered. RimWorld. Tactics Ogre Reborn, which is another game that I don't recognize. Tactics Ogre Reborn. What the fuck is this? It's a Square Enix Tactics game. Why is this so high? Considering it says Reborn, is is like a cult

Starting point is 01:19:11 classic game or something? That's, yeah, that's my assumption. Otherwise I have no fucking clue why, why it's so high on the list. And then lastly, Monster Hunter Rise. Which also makes sense. I'm surprised people are still playing it now. Monster Hunter is one of those games where you don't realize how popular it is

Starting point is 01:19:40 until you realize that you're going to have a tiny bit of look at how many people are actually playing that game. Because you never hear about it. Like, you never hear anything about Monster Hunter. They sort of are just a very insular community that just keeps doing their own little thing.

Starting point is 01:20:00 But considering it's such a popular game on the Steam Deck, yeah, it's a a popular game on the Steam Deck, yeah, it's, it's a pretty, pretty big community itself, now, keep in mind, being on the Steam Deck, this is going, like, this is not necessarily the most popular games on Steam, but these games that play nice on the Steam Deck, that are nice to do on a handheld, things like that, Elden Ring handheld would be so fucking cool though. Like, think back to the mid-2000s handhelds, and don't you wish that you could play a game like fucking Elden Ring? Handheld. Like, I grew up playing, you know, Pokemon and, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:20:41 Dragon Quest IX on the DS. I don't know. Dragon Quest IX on the DS. Like, not bad games, but definitely not the graphical marvel that Elden Ring is in comparison. I still need to play Elden Ring. I need to do that. Is it on sale on Steam?

Starting point is 01:21:02 Probably not. There's no reason we're going to put it on sale. It's Elden Ring. People will buy it. Oh right, there is the DLC coming out soon. The PvP DLC. I am not a PvPer. I am an anti-PvP enjoyer. PvP enjoyer. I do not want anyone invading my world. I don't care if that makes me bad at the game. It is what it is. I like playing my games without the, uh, without anyone bothering me. Uh, it is currently 90 Australian dollars. Maybe it'll go on sale on Christmas. I have my doubts. I have my serious doubts. Uh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah. It's fine. I can just go play the rest of the Souls series. I can go play Dark Souls 2. I'm not gonna lie. How much is Dark Souls 2? If it's not expensive on Steam, I might buy it. How much? How cheap does Dark Souls 2. If it's not expensive on Steam, I might buy it. How much...

Starting point is 01:22:06 How cheap does Dark Souls 2 have to be to make me want to play it? Um... 42 Australian dollars. I don't know if I want to pay 42 Australian dollars to play Dark Souls 2.

Starting point is 01:22:24 I don't hate... I don't hate Dark Souls 2. I don't hate... I don't hate Dark Souls 2. But it is Dark Souls 2. It's not terrible, but also, it's Dark Souls 2. Yeah. Yeah. One day I should go back and actually play it again.

Starting point is 01:22:50 Just for the memes. Just to sort of see if it's as bad as I remember it being. Because I got the game, I think, originally around launch day. And... No, it was a bit after launch day because it was after some of the early hyper buggy bosses got less hyper buggy.

Starting point is 01:23:11 Maybe like a couple of months after launch. But still, it was not as good as Dark Souls 1. Definitely not. I was going to finish Dark Souls 3, and then go play Sekiro. There's a lot of games I need to play. Speaking of games I need to play, actually, I do have a couple of new things over on the shelf here. Two things

Starting point is 01:23:34 that I picked... Ow. Two things I picked up earlier this week. One of them, a series I've not played. Look, it's... It's God of War 3 Remastered. I have said that I'm going to stream the God of War series,

Starting point is 01:23:52 and I am going to do so. And I'm not going to be streaming the new God of War series. No, I'm going to stream from the start of the new God of War stuff. We're going back to the fucking PS2. Like I'm doing with Devil May Cry, we are going to play from the start. We're going to play the fucking PS2, like I'm doing with Devil May Cry, we are going to play

Starting point is 01:24:05 from the start, we're going to play the early games see how it goes, see how will they hold up judging by the early little bit of God of War 1 I've played, it seems like it holds up considerably better than DMC1

Starting point is 01:24:22 does, and considerably better than DMC2 does DMC2 is definitely a lot better than DMC1 does. And considerably better than DMC2 does. DMC2 is definitely a lot better than 1. Um. At least combat wise. Story wise not so much. It's a fucking mess. I have no idea what's happening in DMC2.

Starting point is 01:24:37 But combat wise. Yeah. God of War 1 actually plays quite nicely. The reason why I have. 3 remastered. None of the rest actually plays quite nicely. The reason why I have three remastered, none of the rest of them. So, 1 and 2 are on the PS2. And there is a... And three...

Starting point is 01:24:59 Wait. 1 and 2 are on the PS2, and there is a collection on the PS2. And there is a collection. For the PS3. Yeah I believe there's a collection. With like God of War 1, 2 and 3. For the PS3. Collection.

Starting point is 01:25:17 Or is it just 1 and 2? Yeah 1 and 2 collection for the PS3. But there is not a collection for the PS4. So, I'm going to play the first two games emulated on the PS2. Play God of War 3 with the remaster on the PS2, play God of War 3 with the remaster on the PS4, then God of War reboot on the PS4

Starting point is 01:25:51 as well, and we'll work out what I do with Ragnarok. Maybe... The problem is that Ragnarok, unlike the first of the reboots, is not on PC. Maybe it'll be on PC one day. I have no idea if it's, like, if that's going to happen.

Starting point is 01:26:22 Uh... Yeah, so... The God of War reboot found its way onto... onto PC four years after it originally came out. Maybe that means Ragnarok will get to PC as well? Um... I have no idea. There's certainly nothing...

Starting point is 01:26:42 Certainly nothing... confirmed at this point. So, maybe I'll I'll Do I just buy a PS5 to play fucking Ragnarok? I was on the PS4 as well. It's just not going to look anywhere near as good. I have no idea if it runs well on the PS4.

Starting point is 01:27:02 I actually don't know. Uh Uh no idea if it runs well on the PS4. I actually don't know. Uh, uh, yeah, no one's even really taught, uh, God of War, PS5 is PS4 Pro, yeah, IGN. For once, IGN can be useful to me. Show me how it looks. Here we go, I don't care. Skip ahead to when I can see stuff that's important. Okay, here we go. Okay, so on the base PS4 it is playing at 30 FPS, so maybe that'll be a little bit rough. But to be fair, I played... I did play Bloodborne on the... I did play Bloodborne on the PS4.

Starting point is 01:27:50 So... And that plays at 30 FPS. Yeah. Yeah. 60 would certainly be nice. And that does make me kind of... Want to get a PS5 at some point, one day I'll get a PS5, maybe we'll get a PS5, maybe we just wait on Ragnarok until, like, the PS6 is about

Starting point is 01:28:13 to come out, and then, and then we get, uh, yeah, then, then we go and get a PS5, that's usually what I do with our new consoles anyway. I just wait until the next console is basically out and then just get a cheaper version. Because right now it's like $900 fucking dollars to buy a PS5. And there's like two games on the PS5 I'd want to play. The only reason I could justify

Starting point is 01:28:38 getting a PS5 is using it pretty much as a PS4 Pro. Like just just using it to play my PS4 games at, like, a more consistent frame rate and in some games, just, you know, doing the PS4 Pro upgrade sort of stuff. I could sell...

Starting point is 01:28:57 Like, maybe it makes sense to do that. Get rid of the PS4, get a PS5. Yeah. I'm not doing... I'm not planning to do that anytime soon, though. If I do, it's not gonna be for, like, a year. I know there's, like, I think my housekeeper was mentioning this,

Starting point is 01:29:13 like, PS6 rumours. There's, like, rumours that it's, like, in the works or something. But, nothing, rumors that it's like in the works or something um but nothing obviously nothing is confirmed but considering they're basically yeah some people are saying not launching until 2028 so it might be a while until i get my um get my ps5 probably get in like 2027 2026 or something unless you know there's actually good deals they start to appear um i know there are like bundles yeah here we go here's a here's a bundle that contains let's not show the screen because it shows my suburb. There is a bundle that I'm seeing right now for $888

Starting point is 01:30:07 that contains Ragnarok. The PS4 looks so fucking stupid laid down. I'm going to show you something. Have you never seen a PS5 on its side? Like, what is this? PS5 on its side. Like, what is this? Like, this is so fucking ugly. This, I presume, is the regular edition,

Starting point is 01:30:33 not the digital edition. Yeah. $888, like, is... It's a lot. But if I got rid of my... If I got rid of the PS4, like, that actually could make sense then. Because it is, you know, PS4...

Starting point is 01:30:54 PS5's backwards compatible. So, like, that actually could make sense. Um... I don't know. As I said, I've not decided... A thousand. You know, it's a much better deal than it was. I'm seeing another bundle for $1,100.

Starting point is 01:31:13 There's nothing special about this one. It's the same thing, except this one includes Horizon Forbidden West instead of God of War. That's literally the only difference. But yeah, as I said, there's like two games that I would actually care to play on the PS5.

Starting point is 01:31:35 Also, I've got a copy here of Strange the Paradise FF Origin, which has a PS5 version. So I guess there's technically three games, because this gets you, like, a free upgrade. I think I paid, like, $20 for this or something. I think I paid, like, $12 for this. But I don't know. Maybe. Maybe it'll happen. Maybe. Maybe it'll happen. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:32:07 I don't know, man. I want to get a PS5 at some point. But it's just so hard to justify. I think the only reason I could justify doing it is basically as a PS4 Pro. Because anything else that I want to play is already on PC, like, this is one of the, the great things about, um, one of the great things about modern gaming, we've sort of, in many cases, lost that, uh, lost that, that benefit of buying a console like when i was younger you would buy a console because a lot of games that you want to play just aren't on uh aren't on aren't on pc uh but now nowadays it's just it's so far from that that it just, you know,

Starting point is 01:33:06 doesn't even matter anymore. Here we go. There's Demon's Souls. I guess there's a new Ratchet and Clank game? Don't care about Grinch. Yeah, PS3 game. The Last of Us Part 1. Upcoming PS5 exclusives.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Wait, wait, FF... No, it's not. Is FF16 going to be an exclusive? Hold the... Uh, FF16 will be exclusive to the PS5 for six months. Hold the f- Uh... FF16 will be exclusive to the PS5 for six months. Square, you already don't make that much money. Okay, this actually might justify me buying a PS5.

Starting point is 01:34:03 Okay, this actually might justify me buying a PS5. I think that actually might justify me buying a PS5. Fuck, okay. Okay, good to know then. Because I am very excited to play that. I'm definitely going to be streaming it. Yeah. Why is that saying

Starting point is 01:34:33 PS4, PS5 exclusive? Is this article just old? Because Stray came out on PC fucking ages ago. Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut. Yeah man, go play a game that already came out fucking ages ago. Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut. Yeah, man. Go play a game that already came out, but with slightly different content.

Starting point is 01:34:52 Uh... Fuck. I didn't know it was going to be a timed exclusive. That's a problem. Look, that will drive PS5... Like, I think that that will actually drive some sales. That might drive some sales, at least.

Starting point is 01:35:14 Maybe not that many, but definitely some. And as the console gets cheaper, maybe it makes a little bit more sense. I'm kind of a little bit thinking about it at $900. Actually, if I sold my PS4, how much could I sell it for? Let's go find out. Let's go into Gumtree. PS4. Not PS4 games, not a PS4 controller. Um,

Starting point is 01:36:05 uh, PS4 Pro, 420. Uh, PS4 500 gig 300. I'm seeing a lot of people selling Is this a Wait, is this 500 gig or I don't remember what the storage of this one was. It looks like I fucking recognize that. I know what that

Starting point is 01:36:23 picture is. That's the fucking cash converters uh cashies is a cash converters cashies whatever you want to call it that is our um that is the local australian big porn shop chain um and if you try to sell them something, the best deal that you will get is a third of the price. So they would buy it off you for like $90. Which I have no interest in actually buying.

Starting point is 01:36:59 That's a... Wait, I'm sorry. PS3 36... PS3 36 PS3 36 games for $90. Is there anything worth anything here that I care about?

Starting point is 01:37:12 Uh, GTA 4 GTA 5 Liberty City story? Is that Liberty City story? Something like that? MW2, yeah! Dark- fucking Dark Souls 2, let's go! Let's fucking go!

Starting point is 01:37:32 Why is your picture upside down? Make it easier to read. Um, Watch Dogs 1, Sleeping Dogs, Saints Row 4, let's f- Diablo 3, let's fucking go!ablo 3, let's fucking go. But yeah, it looks like if I wanted to sell it,

Starting point is 01:37:49 I could probably sell it at like, um, you know, $250, $300. And if I include the controller, because I don't need the controller, um, and then that would bring the PS5 down to like 600 and... What? 630? That's actually in the range of reasonable then.

Starting point is 01:38:15 Yeah, that's actually not a stupid price. Mmm. Maybe I'll have to do it. I don't know. Maybe I'll have to do it. I don't know. Maybe I'll have to do it. I'll definitely think about it. I might wait and see what happens over Christmas. See if there's any good deals,

Starting point is 01:38:37 Boxing Day deals, things like that. Probably not, considering that it's still hard to buy a PS5. It's sort of gotten to the point now where it's mostly available. But as we saw, some of the fucking packages are $1,100. Just actually dumb. Like, actually way too much money. I think when I bought my PS3, I think I paid...

Starting point is 01:39:03 I got two games with it. Yeah, PS3, two games I paid. I got two games with it. Yeah. PS3 two games. For like 500. Remember when consoles were affordable. That was a good time. That was a great time. And then my.

Starting point is 01:39:20 PS4. PS4. What did I get with my PS4? What the fuck did I get? Probably have the games over on the shelf still. Um. Hmm. I don't. Did I get it with Bloodborne?

Starting point is 01:39:38 I have no idea what came with it actually. I know I definitely got something with it. Uh. Huh. with it, actually. I know I definitely got something with it. Uh... Huh. I have no idea. Oh, also, I said that I didn't have the God of War reboot. I actually do.

Starting point is 01:39:57 I forgot... I forgot that I had already, um... had already got it. Yeah, so it was already here. Wait, I didn't buy a second copy of it, did I? Wait. Did I forget that I had a pre-owned...

Starting point is 01:40:17 Give me one second. Let me check. I feel like I bought a copy on Amazon as well. Your orders. Let me have a look. I did. I actually did. Um... I completely forgot that I bought... How much did I pay for this one? Uh... Oh, it's only $12. I might just give it to someone, to be honest.

Starting point is 01:40:46 I'll see if any of my mates want a copy of God of War. Why the fuck did I buy a second copy? How did that happen? I genuinely don't know how that happened. Hmm. Hmm. Christmas gift. there we go there we fucking go

Starting point is 01:41:10 I'll give it to someone for Christmas it was totally intentional definitely definitely was not a mistake either way the one I bought on Amazon was $12 the one on my shelf is $14 I'll probably keep the one I bought on Amazon was $12 the one on my shelf is $14 I'll probably keep the one I bought from Amazon for me

Starting point is 01:41:28 because that's a new copy I'll give the $14 copy to someone else yeah I'll find someone I'll find someone who wants a copy of God of War maybe I'll give it to my housemate or something I don't fucking know not that he'll actually play it,

Starting point is 01:41:46 considering that he doesn't play many games right now, but hey, maybe that could give him an excuse to actually play something. This is not the first time I've done this. I've bought multiple copies of books before. I forgot what it was, but I definitely... I don't know if I still have it, but for a while,

Starting point is 01:42:08 I definitely had... I definitely had two copies of a couple of books on there. Because a lot of the books I buy online, but sometimes I'll, like, go to a bookstore, and I guess the same thing

Starting point is 01:42:19 would have happened here. I... I don't know which one happened first. When did I order this? December 5th, hmm, I might have bought that one first, yeah, I might have bought that one first, and then, and then bought, ordered this online, because I was also ordering God of War 3,

Starting point is 01:42:44 and then I forgot that I already had the other one. Yeah. I'm dumb. It's $12. It's $12. It doesn't matter that much.

Starting point is 01:43:01 I'm stupid. Well, it is what it is. Speaking of it is what it is, what are we going to talk about? You know what? Let me show you something about the Fortnite. So I don't give a shit about Fortnite, but what I do care about is Unreal Engine

Starting point is 01:43:26 5.1 and Fortnite at this point is basically Epic's like Unreal Tech Demo like it's their Unreal Tech Demo that's actually like a good game. I don't care about your audio I'm gonna mute that

Starting point is 01:43:41 so Unreal 5.1 introduces something known as Nanite But so they already had nanite, but now nanite works on foliage previously it didn't so you basically the idea of of nanite is in traditional game rendering you have something known as level of detail. And basically, as you go further away from an object, you want to show less detail because more of these objects are shown on the screen. So if you show them at the same detail level that you show them up close,

Starting point is 01:44:18 then you're going to have a lot of performance issues. The problem with the traditional level of detail system, though, a lot of performance issues. The problem with the traditional level of detail system though is Basically, uh, it's very It's a very obvious jump so when you go between the different levels of detail because it's not a granular shift like you very easily notice it whereas with this new system it is basically, it is that granular level of detail. So if you're really far away from something, here's a great example, actually.

Starting point is 01:44:52 When you're doing, I don't know what you call it, jumping out of the bus, I don't fucking play Fortnite. I just care about how cool it looks as a tech demo. All of these trees here, they, in a level of detail system, you could tell that they would be like, you know, 2D images,

Starting point is 01:45:07 or like lower poly count than they would be, depends on how far away it is. But with this new system, you can basically procedurally change the detail level, so even though they're so far away,'s that the detail is reduced based on that distance rather than based on the set detail points so it doesn't look like that anything is changing because it doesn't change when you get closer to it until you get like close enough to it to actually like perceive that detail you can get these massive performance boosts with no perceivable drop in quality obviously if you configure it wrong and have the distances set wrong like it can be it can certainly be noticed but yeah if it's done correctly then uh not so much also

Starting point is 01:46:02 there is like way better lighting in this game now. Like, the lighting genuinely looks good. Like, I don't know how we've gotten to the point where Fortnite is a tech demo. Like, it looks... Like, look at this fucking water. Like, what the fuck is this water? There was another demo, and he... Show a demo with snow,

Starting point is 01:46:27 uh, okay, the snow still looks like you'd expect it looking for, yeah, there's nothing happening with the snow, there was something in here about fire, yeah, here we go, here's, here's how the fire looks, now, Twitter is going to compress this to hell, is it going to show me at a reasonable quality, of course, it's not, because it's Twitter, and Twitter's video compression is fucking terrible. But when it's not compressed to hell, this fire looks very good. Like, really, really, really, really fucking good. Here's some other pictures.

Starting point is 01:47:02 Like, what is this? What is this? What is this? This is... Like this is... This is fucking Fortnite. This is Fortnite! Remember that game everyone mocked about how like how basic it looked? And now it looks better than a lot of games that are coming out right now. Like, this is the power of Unreal Engine 5 and Unreal Engine 5.1. I am so excited to see, like, what can come out of this engine when you're not trying to do it in the Fortnite style. Now, the Fortnite style works pretty well with it. But, like, when you're trying to do something

Starting point is 01:47:46 really high, high fidelity, like, you are trying to take advantage of this as much as you can. I don't know... Okay, underwater, it looks scuffed. I don't know where... Like, how far this can go like how good games are going to look in this engine and then once games look real yeah the water looks terrible under it um and then once

Starting point is 01:48:16 this is like the standard for making games where we go from here like Like. We've already hit this. Like ridiculous point. Where things look. Too good. What happens now. I don't know. I genuinely. Do not have.

Starting point is 01:48:42 A single clue. What happens now. What I know is we're gonna get some cool looking games, and I'm sure Kingdom Hearts 4 is going to look very good, because that's, um, that's an Unreal Engine 4 game, and I'm so happy that, I'm so fucking happy that, uh, Square Enix is kind of trashing their in-game engine. I don't know what 16's using, but I really hope that they're not trying to keep their own internal engines going, because they clearly have no idea what they're doing with them. Like, every time they build an internal engine,

Starting point is 01:49:15 it just ends up being... Okay, so FFXVI is going to be Unreal 4. Why is it 4? Why is it going to be 4? Whatever. Is Kingdom Hearts 4 going to be Unreal 4. Why is it 4? Why is it gonna be 4? Whatever. Is Kingdom Hearts 4 going to be Unreal Engine 4 then? Or is it 5? Okay, okay. So I guess they still had an internal workflow based around Unreal Engine 4. Actually, that makes sense because Unreal Engine 5 isn't that old. Um, Unreal Engine 5, uh, when did Unreal Engine 5 come out? Uh, oh, okay, okay, earlier this year, that makes sense. I thought it was, like, last year. Um,

Starting point is 01:50:00 That makes sense. I thought it was like last year. So FFXVI is Unreal Engine 4, but going forward, their games are going to be built around Unreal Engine 5. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. What that means for how KH4 is going to look?

Starting point is 01:50:21 I don't know. Assuming that Square Enix doesn't have more development issues like they seem to have relatively often yeah, we'll see how that goes I bet it's going to look ridiculous like even if they don't do anything crazy with the models

Starting point is 01:50:40 just keep it in the style obviously KH4 is going real world whatever, but like even if they use the models, just keep it in the style obviously it's going, the KH4 is going like real world, whatever but like, even if they use the models from KH3 and just stuck it in with the lighting of the, of Unreal Engine 5 all the crazy, uh, all the crazy shit that's available

Starting point is 01:50:56 yeah, yeah it's gonna look it's gonna look cracked, it's gonna look pretty cracked ow um Yeah, it's gonna look, it's gonna look cracked. It's gonna look pretty cracked. Ow. Um, yes. Uh, what else do we have?

Starting point is 01:51:15 What else do we have? Uh, oh, here's just something dumb that I saw. That I'm not surprised is happening,, but... It's just dumb. Emacs should become a Wayland compositor. So, Emacs, for a very long time, has had something called EXWM, I want to say. Yes, EXWM. The Emacs Windows, or Emacs X Windows Manager.

Starting point is 01:51:45 Basically, it is a full-featured tiling X Window Manager for Emacs Windows or Emacs X Windows Manager. Basically, it is a full-featured Tiling X Window Manager for Emacs. It is a window manager for Emacs. You can control your entire desktop with Emacs. So why don't we also have something that is um That is not X based. Why don't we also have something that is, um, that is not X-based? Why don't we have something Oilen-based? Which is, seems like what might happen in the future. And then, you know, one day Emacs will get to that point where Emacs is your entire fucking system. I've said it before, I'll say it again, Linux is basically a bootloader for Emacs. There is a lot of people out there who live entirely in Emacs. I don't understand it, I never will, it'll never be my thing, but

Starting point is 01:52:38 I get it, I get it. If you want to do that, you want to like, you know, you have everything integrated into this environment, it makes sense. It makes sense why you'd do it. It's just not my thing. I'm very happy not using Emacs and using not Emacs. But it's cool. Oh. Oh. Um. Yes. Yes. Oh. One thing I did want to mention is I actually. So I mentioned this before. I buy new phones.

Starting point is 01:53:17 Basically when my old phone dies. I'm not a big fan of like getting on the treadmill of always having the most up-to-date phone, whatever dumb nonsense that is. So whenever I buy a new phone, it ends up being a fairly large upgrade and it's sort of getting to the point where I might need to do that. Not because there's anything... Okay, there's one thing majorly wrong with this device. There's a lot of things that are, you know, a little bit wrong. Like the fact that my, uh, the camera on the back of my phone has a bunch of scratches on it and cracks on it.

Starting point is 01:53:55 It works, so it's fine. There's a bunch of, like, chip paint all over it, whatever, it's chip paint, don't care. Uh, the screen, I never use screen protector, so the screen is scratched to hell. The issue that I have is, uh, my lock button. You probably won't be able to tell no matter how close I get, but my lock button, uh, I can, if I press it on one side, it can sink into the phone, and it doesn't press the button. I have to press it at the top of the button for the button to actually work. So it seems like whatever is, um, whatever is stabilizing it under it has shifted or broken off, whatever's going on there. And I don't know if the button's going to keep working for that much longer. It's been fine over the past, uh, the past couple of weeks, but it might be about time to find out

Starting point is 01:54:48 sort of what's in that mid range phone market at this point like I Have no idea I like I literally buy phones every three years and I don't even acknowledge what phones exist Until I want to go and buy a new phone Let's go price low to high No phones not phone cases No, okay, can we?

Starting point is 01:55:15 Price here we go. Let's say minimum Let's say minimum $250 and maximum $400 that seemed like a good price that seemed like too much for a phone Motorola G22 128 gigs what the fuck

Starting point is 01:55:42 what the fuck what the fuck wait a pinhole so this is why I buy phones every like whenever I start looking at new phones I'm like holy shit features um

Starting point is 01:55:57 have mid range phones completely gotten rid of the headphone jack at this point I have no idea I know if they're gone or if some phones have it because my phone right now Have mid-range phones completely gotten rid of the headphone jack at this point? I have no idea. I know it if they're gone or if some phones have it. Because my phone right now has a headphone jack. Let's see if we can find the bottom of the phone. And that's one of the reasons I've also held off buying a new phone. Because I like my headphone jack.

Starting point is 01:56:22 Show me the bottom of the phone. Is that a headphone jack? I think that might be a headphone jack, actually. I'm going to check it. Motorola G22 headphone jack. Does the Motorola G22 come with a 3.5mm jack?

Starting point is 01:56:50 Does it? Tell me. Tell me. I want to know. Don't care about your hands. Don't care. Don't care. At all. They're talking about it. God damn it. don't talk. Show me. How to connect wired headphones to a Motorola

Starting point is 01:57:10 G22. Is this... It is going to be dongle, isn't it? No. There's a headphone jack. This is peak fucking content. I didn't know this channel exists. What is this? Do they just do videos on nothing?

Starting point is 01:57:32 Yes. Yes. They just do videos on nothing. This has to be like some internal company thing. Because these get no views. But maybe the idea is that you do millions of videos. And some of these videos will do well. New video every hour.

Starting point is 01:58:04 What? What? What? Anyway, let's go back to looking at phones. What else is in this range? TCL something or other. Motorola G50. Okay, so it seems like a lot of the same

Starting point is 01:58:22 phones that would have been in that range before are still in that range, but they are newer. And have fucking pinhole displays. Like, I can't believe that pinhole displays are a thing at this point. Like, because I've got the, um, I've got the, the, the eyedrop style, you can't even see it, the eyedrop style display. Maybe I will go back to Motorola. Because I enjoyed Motorola's pretty vanilla Android skin. I don't know. Maybe.

Starting point is 01:58:54 I'll decide it when this phone actually breaks and I buy a new one. Because I've bought Motorola phones for years. This is my one exception to trying something new. It's not been terrible, but it's also had a lot of dumb Android skin issues, where it's like, let's just add things that don't make any sense. So there is a, I don't know, actually, I don't know if this is an Android thing or just the skin thing. Every 72 hours, if I leave my volume at max volume which I do because my wireless earbuds have their own volume rocker it's like let's just turn down the volume to fucking 70% like don't do that leave it leave it at the volume I said of that I don't care if it's bad for my hearing I haven't

Starting point is 01:59:40 been playing music for 72 hours just Just leave it at what it is. It's fine. But, um, yeah. Phones are dumb. Maybe I'll buy a new one. Maybe I'll buy a PS5. I don't know. The phone, look, the phone works.

Starting point is 02:00:00 Maybe I'll buy a PS5 first and then deal with the phone later. But, I don't know. We'll work that out into the future. Yeah. Anyway, that's going to be it for me. Next episode, we have EG on. That is going to be a... I have no...

Starting point is 02:00:18 It might be a fun one. It might be a bad one. I have no idea. I've got no idea. Because I'm recording that this, I think, Sunday morning, like, 1am, or is it Saturday night, at midnight, I don't know, one of the two, uh, yeah, so, if you like the podcast, go and like it, go subscribe, do all that fun stuff, main channel, Brodie Robertson, I do Linux videos six days a week, I've got the gaming channel Brodie Robertson Plays

Starting point is 02:00:45 soon going to be rebranded. I keep saying that. I keep not doing it, but soon it will be rebranded. And this channel, if you're listening to the audio version, the video version will be found over on the YouTube at Tech Over Tea. If you're watching the video version, the audio version will be found over on any podcast platform. There's an RSS feed. Stick in your favorite app. And yeah, you're good to go. Tech over tea.

Starting point is 02:01:11 Find it there. That's going to be it for me. So yeah. I'm out.

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