Tech Over Tea - RDNA GPUs, Twitter Takeover & Linux Troubles | Rogue Ren

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 good morning good day and good evening i am as always your host brody robertson and today we have a returning guest who i thought had actually been on the show a lot more recently welcome back to the show ben how you doing it's been like a year since you last oh god why am i still doing this i don't i don't know man if i uh go back through your Twitter, there'll be multiple times where you've, like, you know, gone through these depressive episodes, like, I'm not gonna do this anymore, I need to, like, focus on other stuff, and then you're still here.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And then I go to, like, two weeks later and been like, you know what, I'm gonna do this thing. Well, how you been doing, man? I've been alright. You recently bought a new GPU that's been giving you some trouble, haven't you? Oh, we're jumping straight into that. Well, there's a good reason why we're jumping straight into that.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Because this just arrived like five minutes ago. Oh, shit! For anyone who can't see it properly, this is a 6750 XT. Already flexing on me. You have a better GPU again. Well, okay. The reason I bought it, I was going to get a 6700.
Starting point is 00:01:14 The reason I bought this one specifically is M-Wave, which is like one of the big Australian PC part retailers. They had a really good deal on it. It was $200 200 off so put it in the price range yeah there was literally no reason not to buy it it was a free upgrade yeah because i paid like 320 for mine and mine's a 66 50 xt right okay but that's also american pricing so i'll give you the uh australian pricing just so you have a bit of a reference
Starting point is 00:01:42 for how much that actually is. It would probably help to have... Yeah, because if it's $200 off the US pricing, that would sound like way more. Where the hell are the... I hate their website, but they do have a lot of things. Right now, a 6700 XT is anywhere from $650 to $800.
Starting point is 00:02:10 In Australian? Sorry? Australian dollars? Yeah, Australian dollars. And I paid, I think, $700 for this guy. Might as well just grab it at that point.
Starting point is 00:02:24 There's literally no reason not to do it. But I have been on AMD the entire time I've been on Linux. So I sort of know, you know, what to expect from AMD. You've been an NVIDIA user, though. And that's what's not being good for you, has it? Up until a little over two years ago, I was a Windows user. Yeah, well, on Windows, you might as well use it. Well, I would say might as well use NVIDIA,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but NVIDIA is price gouging the fuck out of the new cards right now. Oh, yeah, no. It used to be like NVIDIA, you got better performance for a little bit more money. Now NVIDIA is you get a little bit more performance for a shitload more money. Because what is the 4090s MSRP? It's some stupid number. It's in the thousands. 4090 US...
Starting point is 00:03:09 I mean, granted, the new 7000 series AMD GPUs are right at a thousand as well. It's... Wait, that's not the US MSRP, is it? No. No. Is it $1,600? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, there's a reason no one's buying this thing that's so stupid what is the okay what's top amd one the 70 xtx seven thousand something it's like right at a thousand obviously it doesn't match it in performance like but when you're saving for the price you get like something like 90 of the way for like 500 bucks cheaper i think what's really going to determine what happens with this generation is what happens at the like 60 class cards because that if you look at the steam hardware survey is always where that's always where the most people buy i think the biggest card right now is still these the 2060 i want to say probably either that or the amd equivalent somewhere in that range no the the uh it's not the amd equivalent i've looked at it for that one oh no um
Starting point is 00:04:19 it's still nvidia just dominating i think think AMD's closest card is their internal graphics. Like the actual next like discrete GPU. I mean, that's impressive for internal graphics to be that good, but also. It's not the fact that it's good. It's just that nobody's buying AMD cards. Yeah. So 1.58%. That is the first AMD result on this list.
Starting point is 00:04:48 That is for internal graphics. And the first actual card is an RX 580. Damn. No, you had a 590, didn't you? Yeah, I had it. So no, 570. A 570. Yeah. Okay was i was right that it was one number off just in the wrong direction uh but right now it's actually the 1060 that is um
Starting point is 00:05:14 in that uh top slot i think the reason the 1060 is there and the 2060 never really entered it is just because of when it released uh 2060 was just before COVID started, and that's when the price hikes happened. So no one bought it. Yeah, that made getting computer stuff a pain. Yeah, yeah, it hasn't been fun, that's for sure. I've wanted to buy a GPU for a while, but... During the whole COVID pandemic is when I upgraded my CPU, and I paid more than I probably should have.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yup, yup. pandemic is when i upgraded my cpu and i paid more than i probably should have but i got this nice little thing called the covid relief stimulus check ah you got your stimmy for 1400 the government expected it to last the pandemic yeah that did not work plan for there to be like multiple of them that happened and then it just didn't happen? There were two. There was one for 14 and then another for like 400. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, in Australia, we actually did have a... We've always had like a really strong welfare system here. So you could just... Basically, anyone could sign up for that.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It wasn't tons, but it was, like, a couple hundred a week, which is more over time. Yeah. Yeah, no, they gave you just, like, $1,400 and said, all right, don't starve, and that would cover people's rent for maybe a month, depending on where you lived. Well, less than a month if you lived in, like, New York. Yeah, if you lived in, like, California or New York, you couldn't
Starting point is 00:06:46 pay rent that month, period. Yeah. But, man, I don't know why anyone lives in big cities. One thing about rent, it's all or nothing. I don't know why anyone lives in big cities like that. Like, I get it before, kind of, when, like, remote work wasn't this big thing, but now
Starting point is 00:07:01 if your lease has expired, maybe, you know, move a little bit out well the thing about america is that if you want to live somewhere where you don't have to drive everywhere you have new york city that's your only option yeah um well australia we we do have a a reasonable public transport system at least in like the suburban areas um but most people drive anyway and we just don't have that many people so it doesn't get that crowded yeah we just don't have public transport yeah that's fair i don't know why
Starting point is 00:07:47 wait like not like not at all not like a public bus system or anything i can't get a bus where i live if i don't drive i can't leave my driveway i've heard that like public transport was bad in a lot of places but i didn't know it was that bad yeah my public transport would be paying for uber right because i can walk like three minutes in any direction and get to a bus stop nope i walk for three minutes i'm still on a road i don't even have sidewalks in my neighborhood. And we don't have the, like, the best train system here, but I can go, I think it's, like, close station, maybe, like, five-minute drive away,
Starting point is 00:08:33 I can catch that into the capital and then go out from there. It's a slow train, you know, we don't have bullet trains, nothing like that, but you'll get there. Yeah, I don't have trains. It's awful yeah um speaking of things that are awful your experience with your amd card oh yeah uh which one except it's not anymore which one did you buy uh the rx 6650 xt right um let me bring that one up all right it's 6650 xt uh guru 3d let thank you bring up good benchmarks here we go so that would sit between the 6600
Starting point is 00:09:21 and the 6700 xt amd does not have a good name for their product stack. No, but to put it in comparison to what I did have, my previous card was a GTX 980 Ti. Go compare those two. Is 980 Ti on this list? It is not on this list.
Starting point is 00:09:42 What did I use to compare them? I know maybe... I think it was just ppu benchmark if i go to guru 3d for one of the main cards like the 6700 xt that should have the numbers um or user benchmarks that's what i use ah okay user benchmark right it's fair um yeah so just pull them up on there and compare the two numbers. Because, um... Oh, dear God. Okay, we'll go to you. Okay, it's not on here.
Starting point is 00:10:15 My card, right now... Actually, my card's kind of amusing. So, this is a benchmark for Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p. The 6700 XT is 76 FPS at ultra quality. My card would be 26.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Your card would be 26 for Cyberpunk? Yeah, with the 570. Oh my god. So, user benchmark. Here we are. I got it right here. You got it? You know, I need a guy to do this. It's Disney to hire someone to do this.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I can't do this while I'm talking. Exactly. I don't have the money to pay them. That's the problem. The upside of ADHD, I can do two different things at once and pull in information from both. Ah, right alright you can compare the cards directly like this can't you yep
Starting point is 00:11:09 compared to M-Render there is a 104% difference between those two cards oh my lord every single thing is like double digits better.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, that's pretty much what I was working with. But in some cases for me, it was like triple digits. It was bad. This is the nice thing about buying a GPU with such a big gap. It's the same thing I do with my phone as well. I buy a new phone every, like, four or five years. So every phone I get or every GPU I get is this giant upgrade, and it feels wonderful.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I don't really deal with that because I just always buy old phones anyway. That's fair. So, like, I buy flagship phones, but I buy them two, three, four years after they came out. Right, but even doing that, like, the rolling date of two, three, four years ago is always going to, like, be moving forward. So if you buy one of those...
Starting point is 00:12:17 Oh, yeah, except that nowadays I can hardly tell the difference between flagships other than screen refresh rate. I think the last time there was a big difference with flagships, if we're going with the Galaxy devices, probably maybe after
Starting point is 00:12:34 Galaxy S6 or S7, after that point, it's just like, okay, they're slightly different. Maybe they're a bit faster and maybe the headphone jack disappeared at some point, but as a general advice... I like a general last one i noticed the difference was more so like note eight note nine okay okay okay um because i have friends who have like the new like the galaxy s21 ultra or whatever and like i messed around with it i'm just like
Starting point is 00:13:02 it just feels the same but with a higher refresh rate ah yes fair uh i'm just like and i don't care about a super high refresh rate on my phone what is the refresh rate i think they've got it now to where it's like 75 hertz okay it's not exactly like super high it's not like there might be one with a 124 hertz uh okay um i don't see it on here but again i can notice the difference but it's just like okay neat yeah i don't i don't care enough to drop another thousand dollars on a phone yeah absolutely i don't really game on my phone like
Starting point is 00:13:45 i get it if you play like fortnite or i don't know what what other games do you play on their phone warzone yeah that one warzone pub g all those battle royale but like if i'm gonna play a game on my phone it's probably gonna be emulating a gba game even then i still don't well even the games are designed around like either 60 or 30 back then so it doesn't matter if it's a higher refresh rate display i guess my only issue with emulators on my phone is that i hate touch controls i get that yeah that makes sense no that totally makes sense so um what issue this is to be a hell of a clip out. Maybe I'm just going to have a bunch of different subclips here.
Starting point is 00:14:28 What issues were you actually having... What... We're going to try that again. What issues were you having with this GPU? There we go. We got there eventually. There we go. You got it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. I'm professional. I've only been doing this for like three years. So when I first put in the GPU, I load load up a game. I think the one I mainly tested on was final fantasy 15. And then I went to do something else. So I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:15:01 okay, I'm going to switch over to my second set of virtual desktops. And the transition was super choppy and so like that's weird so I pull up discord to see like because I have a tech support channel and a couple people who are a lot better
Starting point is 00:15:16 at technical stuff than I am it's like ask them hey you guys ever heard of this and I start scrolling through my different discord servers I'm in and that's super choppy and laggy. Okay. And I'm just like, what is going on? I close the game.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Everything's immediately smooth again. Uh-huh. Couldn't figure out what the real life means. Like, what is going on? Having issues with, like, a different VTuber program, VPUpper. It's, like, not running my face and it's flickering the texture. That's still not solved, by the way. I'm using a different program.uber program, VPupper. It's not running in my face and it's flickering the texture. That's still not solved, by the way. I'm using a different program.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Oh, okay. So, I see on the GitHub that, hey, the Pro drivers don't have this. Okay, I'll try to install the AMD Pro drivers. Oh, they only support CentOS and Ubuntu. And it's only Ubuntu LTS. You can get running on other things, but...
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yes, you absolutely can. Luckily, PopOS is Ubuntu-based. I'm on the LTS. Want to know what I do to install the drivers? Oh, no. What do you have to do? I open a text file that has a line that says ID equals pop. I change pop to Ubuntu.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's it. Then I install without a problem. Okay. That's good. Re they install without a problem. Okay. That's good. Reboot. Load it up. Issue is not fixed. It's still doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Okay. I can't figure it out. I spent another day messing around. I go back in. I once again changed ID Ubuntu equals pop. Or back to ID equals Ubuntu. I uninstall the pro drivers. Change it back to id equals pop close
Starting point is 00:16:46 down reboot so now the drivers are gone i'm back to what the drivers i started with and the issue's gone everything is fine now wait during that initial process did you ever do a reboot yes okay i rebooted after i installed the pro drivers okay because i but yeah no so i installed different drivers just to immediately uninstall those new drivers and that somehow fixed it um i none of this makes sense i yeah i don't know what could be going i'm sure if you dug through your logs you could probably find something i don't know i could if i could understand the logs that's fair so now gaming is fine then and everything's fine now besides the one program you were trying to use vpuffer yeah but that's an issue with um i
Starting point is 00:17:45 believe mesa in general oh or at least newer mesa drivers on uh rdna2 cards yep yep yep what about i know you you mentioned something about blender have you had any luck with that i haven't tried to render yet um because but i also found out that there's apparently a Rust implementation of OpenCL in the new Mesa drivers. Oh. Oh, no, I think I did hear about this. Yeah. Yeah, apparently that was merged a couple months back, so newer Mesa drivers should have it,
Starting point is 00:18:19 which I'm on 22.2.0. Oh, yeah, this did... Yeah, Pharonix talked about it. Mesa's Rust OpenCL implementation 22.2.0 Oh, yeah, this did... Um, yeah, Pharonix talked about it. Mesa's Rust OpenCL implementation expected to be merged in coming days back in September. Okay, so, yeah, by now
Starting point is 00:18:35 I would imagine it's in there. Uh, yeah, I don't know if... Yeah, I don't know if they're any good or what the deal is there, but, yeah, that happened. Um, so supposedly that should work for at the very least Blender or GPU rendering. The one I'm really concerned about is DaVinci Resolve because the video I've been working on, I wanted to start editing in Resolve to learn that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And then I found out they don't let you do GPU rendering unless you're on the proprietary AMD drivers. Yep. Which I'm just like, that's stupid. The problem is related to OpenCL, so I don't know if that's still an issue or what the deal is there. I'm hoping not. I haven't tried it yet. But if this Rust OpenCL makes it work then cool literally most issues are solved well if that's the case maybe i should uh you know actually use davinci people have been like hey brody
Starting point is 00:19:34 use davinci it actually supports gpu rendering yeah it might be good i mean i have gpu rendering on cayden live caydendenlive's CPU rendering is... Well, no, I had a different workaround. I was using the melt files from Shotcut in Kdenlive. Okay. It worked really well. It worked really well. Huh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:59 All you had to do is just download the, I guess the portable install for Shotcut, extract it it and then you just tell caden live to point to those melt files instead i've not heard of anyone doing that where'd you get that i made a video about it i found someone else's video about it which is how i discovered it oh and it just worked actually a lot of it is now irrelevant because as long as you point to those other melt files all all the other steps you could ignore. Granted, I had only tested it with NVIDIA, not AMD. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I doubt that Kdenlive relies on CUDA. That would be weird. I don't think so. That would be a really weird thing to rely on for a completely open source project. Hmm. Huh. I'll have to actually look at that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Because I know Kdenlive has always had some form of GPU rendering, but I don't know exactly what the deal is right at this moment. Because right now I definitely know it's not GPU rendering on my system. I'm, uh, whenever I try to render something,
Starting point is 00:21:04 the CPU is fully maxed out. Um... Well, that's a problem. It's a problem. I would like to use my GPU. It'll be nice. Uh... You could do what I'm considering to do for my backup,
Starting point is 00:21:18 which is to edit off an external hard drive and then plug that into my second PC, which has Windows on it. Well, I do have a second drive that does have Windows on it. I could do that. That's not... And just use...
Starting point is 00:21:33 Literally, I'd turn an entire computer into RenderBox. That is your purpose. You render the video, and that's it. It's not that weird. Some people have capture PCs. It's basically the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I mean, a capture PC is multifunctional though because you're streaming stuff and doing live things and you have a bunch of other things running on it. No, you open this one program and render. You don't even edit. You don't even fully utilize the program. You use two buttons from it and that's it. Some people, like, you might have like a render server
Starting point is 00:22:07 that's a thing that you'll commonly see it this is just like a smaller scale of it of one computer there's not really necessary because you're just rendering out a youtube video overkill absolutely gotta do it anyway you bet your ass i am uh now that i have a spare gpu what i'm thinking of doing is actually taking the old one that's currently in my system and then actually building a capture pc um because i would definitely recommend it because i have had situations where this came in clutch namely when i was streaming tales of bursaria um the game would run fine until i entered a city and then it would start to chug uh-huh so i ended up playing that one on my second pc and then use my main pc as the capture pc and it let me play through the whole game right right so yeah it's
Starting point is 00:22:59 probably a good idea um because i can also then use that as like uh for video backups as well just so it's not always i would also recommend your windows partition if you can keeping that on the second pc because windows really likes to overtake every other operating system that's why i've got it on its own separate drive i did too and it still managed to take over this drives unplugged if i'm not using it so okay i didn't go quite that far i should have yeah well my um my setup for swapping between the linux and windows install is so jank so you know how you can get this like you can get the windows uh the windows partition the windows drive into grub into systemd boot i've never done that if i want to swap to windows i
Starting point is 00:23:52 just do it through the bios uh the bios menu oh that's how i do it yeah because again they're separate drives i don't have different partitions and stuff it's like nah and pick the drive you okay cool no absolutely my bios is actually slightly corrupted on my windows pc if i open the menu it doesn't show any text until my mouse swipes over it and reveals it but i've done it so much on that pc that i just know it's like i just tap f11 until it pulls up tap down three times inner so i've got a a list of uh a list of the drives in my system and i don't know if this is like a issue that's gonna keep happening or if it's just a one-time thing i grabbed one of those entries and i can like move it around with my mouse um and all of the entries just collapsed into one entry.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And then to move them, I had to, like, drag things out, and I didn't know which one I was dragging until I got it into the correct order. Oh, no. Everything worked. It just was a weird graphical issue. Yeah, no. I will say, though, now,
Starting point is 00:25:03 I actually don't use the BIOS anymore now. I installed Refind. Okay. I love that thing. It has saved my ass so many times. I have been told to do a video on Refind for ages. I think the first time someone mentioned it to me was when
Starting point is 00:25:19 the big Archlytics grub issue happened. Yeah, no at Refind, I had a point where Windows it didn't it deleted my Linux partition's boot partition and only the boot partition.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh. So like everything was there, it just couldn't see it to boot it. I installed Refind. Refind makes a new boot partition for everything and it saved me from losing my entire os oh wow i've used it in order to fix broken windows installs uh save installs where windows took over it's just been a absolute godsend i might have to actually try it out at some point I've just always used Grub because
Starting point is 00:26:06 that's just what people have said just use Grub, Grub works If I was using only Linux distros I would probably just stick to Grub but throwing Windows into the mix fucks with everything Yeah, that's absolutely fair because Windows used to work
Starting point is 00:26:21 couldn't you used to have Linux in your Windows bootloader? I think so. But I don't think you can do that now. So now you have to have it in Grub, but then sometimes the Windows bootloader wants to take over anyway, and it's a mess. It's not a good time.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's an absolute mess um it is a fork of the no longer maintained re-effort uh fixes many issues with non-mac ufi booting
Starting point is 00:27:00 okay as I said I'll try it at some point it's just the only problem with messing with my bootloader is if I break the bootloader then I break the bootloader and that's just going to be annoying to fix oh yeah no that would not be a fun time to fix
Starting point is 00:27:18 well like I have a bunch of Arch Linux boot media so like it's not a big deal I can just spin that up i uh i broke the bootloader on windows once that was one of the times where refined uh helped me save my ass because i was able to i don't remember how this was like three years ago i was able to get use it to get into a different partition that had linux on it and then use that to backup the data from the Windows install even though I couldn't boot it.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Huh. Again, it was like three years ago. Do you know how you broke the Windows bootloader? Installing Linux. Right. Okay, fair enough. This was when I had first ever tried to install Ubuntu. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And it's one of the reasons why I waited even tried to install Ubuntu. Right. And it's part of, it's one of the reasons why I waited even longer to try Linux. It was like that happened. I was like, I'm not touching this ever again. I didn't touch Linux again for like a year. Was that a separate drive situation or just a separate partition? I think it was a separate partition.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh, that's even grosser. Yeah. Again, the entire install didn't survive. It just let me find a way to back up the data yeah yeah yeah yeah i think that whenever someone is installing linux especially like their first couple of times never do the partition method always no i give it a clean drive i all these people just like oh yeah just go through and make yourself a new partition dude, most users don't know
Starting point is 00:28:46 what the hell a partition is well even if you do, if you make an issue if you make a mistake there it's not going to go too well I just love it, it's like, it's so easy all you gotta do is install it on a new partition you have already lost most of the people you're trying to convince
Starting point is 00:29:03 all you gotta do is open up Fdiskisc and press this sequence of letters, and then it will work. But, um, you tried out Wayland a bit with this new card. Yes, I did. I like Wayland. Okay, were the issues you were having with Wayland Related to the general issues Or just Wayland generally The issues were related
Starting point is 00:29:32 Pretty much solely to games and OBS That was pretty much it Everything else was almost perfect Okay OBS Browser docs don't work In OBS on Wayland Browser docs don't work in OBS on Wayland. Browser docs don't work.
Starting point is 00:29:48 So stuff like your Twitch chat, those sort of things. Do they not? I thought I've used it before. The docs, not like the website capture, like the little doc things you can move around. No, I use them when I stream as well. I thought I used them- no, I use them when I stream as well. I thought I'd use them before on Waylon. According to the Discord server for OBS, uh, they are
Starting point is 00:30:09 broken, and if they're enabled, they cause OBS to crash. Maybe I had to use them. It might be a thing with the version 28 update. Hmm. But, uh, yeah, so stuff like- Oh, wait! That- No, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That- That might explain why the flat pack constantly crashes. Yeah, they disabled them now. Oh, okay. So that it wouldn't crash. Yeah. Because they're like, well, we can give it and you'll have random crashes, or we can turn them off and your shit will work. Yep, yep. So I'm just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'll take the working program because i i always use them when i'm streaming on um from xorg i i don't stream on waylon but i i did notice at one point that the flat pack started crashing but that i don't know if that's exactly what it was but that very well is what it could be that's what they were saying in the discord for it granted i don't know if it was official members saying it but it was like people who help people out in their discord right right right okay so i'm assuming they know more than me yeah that's fair so obs crashing did you end up dealing with that issue uh the obs didn't crash just the browser docs wouldn't work oh sorry um i wanted to start using it to try to start streaming on
Starting point is 00:31:25 youtube right fun fact about youtube every single stream is a different url so if i wanted to get the chat i'd have to grab the chat every single time from a different link unlike twitch where i have a dedicated one one Games Some games just wouldn't launch I have noticed that yeah Yeah when they would launch on X.Org without a problem So again I couldn't Give Final Fantasy 15 to launch It would load at the menu I hit start game
Starting point is 00:31:56 And I'd just be stuck on the loading screen Huh And it would just endlessly circle and cycle And the loading bar would be full And it just wouldn't do it I'd leave it there for like 10-15 minutes it wouldn't do anything switch to x or again it loads up just fine yeah i've had that happen with um east 8 but i didn't get that far the window didn't even open it just like it's basically stalled on um the either stalled on the steam you know loading the game or it opened the window and crashed straight
Starting point is 00:32:25 away so it's probably my game crash it was just maybe it would have loaded eventually if i left it for like half an hour 45 minutes but at that point i don't consider that working if i have to wait nearly an hour for the game to start yeah yeah i've had the same thing happen with 14 as well. But the 14 launcher can be a bit flaky on Linux anyway. Yeah, that's why I've started using the XIV launcher on Linux. Yeah, I have as well. Because having the launcher just randomly stop working from an update, I'm just like, I don't want to deal with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's like, oh, but you could use mods, which are against the world. I don't care about the mods. I turn them off immediately because I just don't give a shit i don't want the mods i just want to want a working launcher that's all i care about yeah that's fair i did notice one thing of that yes uh getting that launcher installed and working on a steam deck to run off an sd card is a pain in the ass. Because I know there's the flat... I'm using the flat pack version that's available now. Is there a problem with that?
Starting point is 00:33:29 I am too, but my Steam Deck is only the 64 gigabyte model. Right. The game is bigger than the entire internal storage, so I need to use the SD card. Right. Getting that thing to get the paths right for the SD card is a nightmare on a Steam Deck.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Because you have to type in the exact location URL from the SD card's location where it's mounted. But I have to do it in game mode, so I can't just go into desktop and copy and paste. Oh no. I have to type it in manually and you have to go through so many different settings and set them all to be the right path manually. Yeah. If you have one of the bigger storages that you could just install on the internal SD or in the internal storage,
Starting point is 00:34:24 you just install it and you're done. It's only when you're running it entirely off the SD card that it's a install in the internal sd or in the internal storage you just install and you're done it's only when you're running it entirely off the sd card that it's a pain in the ass because yeah i did notice you can change the path for like the config and things like that so yeah the config and the plugins folder and all that stuff um yeah you have to change all of those paths if you're running it off the sd card to the SD card. I really hope that at some point, they just add an option to use the same file path for everything. I don't know why it forced you to do everything manually. It's like, hey, I want to move this thing out of my home folder. Okay?
Starting point is 00:34:58 Steam Deck is an edge case. They're designing it for desktop. Well, no, even on desktop. I don't want to have all of my, like, the XL core folder in my home directory. Let me just move it i don't want to manually that's true it's like can i just tell this to be put in my games folder well i like the option to have like to be able to set things manually but i don't want to have that be the only option just let me just use a base file
Starting point is 00:35:25 path it'll be so much easier yeah i mean granted on desktop it's pretty mundane to just go through and click click click click click click you're done yeah yeah yeah yeah it's just it's only a pain on the deck so once you get it all set up it runs great on the deck how are load times off of sd obviously it's going to depend on which card you have and how fast yeah i have one of the really high end speed cards not like the biggest giga it's only like 128 yeah but i got like the fastest one that the steam deck could handle and i can barely tell a difference wow granted i'm comparing it to uh not an ssd but an emmc memory module actually yeah so you're basically just running the same thing then yeah so for me it's they're they're the same thing
Starting point is 00:36:17 okay oh if i do end up getting a Steam Deck, I don't know, whenever they sell them in fucking Australia, I'll probably get one of the SSD models. Yeah, I'd say go with the mid-tier. Unless you really want that anti-glare screen. I don't plan to game outside or in the sun,
Starting point is 00:36:41 so I don't care. Just turn the lights off. I mean, I like matte screens, so it'd be nice to have but also not enough to pay an extra 300 i guess if you like you know catch public transport you know places that have it um or i don't know you want to play your games in an uber uh i i guess the anti-glare screen is probably probably worth something but i i don't i've i drive places so it's not a thing for me yeah i mean i just like matte screens to begin with yeah that's fair that's totally fair if i could i would have every single screen be matte because i hate glare
Starting point is 00:37:22 yeah that's fair i it's it's not a thing that's ever really annoyed me that much like I've always just had something that I've either had a window right behind me I've had lights near me I've sort of always dealt with glare when I'm gaming anyway so
Starting point is 00:37:41 glare or reflections so it's it kind of is what it is for me yeah luckily for me my light is above and my screens as cheap as they are are still matte so I could see reflections in the bezels and then
Starting point is 00:38:00 on the screen there's nothing right right right that's fair yeah my current light is like up there and then pointed away from me so it's not an issue um i guess there is like some some reflection that comes off my keyboard uh like but it's not a big deal it's fine so gaming and obs were an issue but they weren't an issue at all on on x um were there any other like usability actually what were you using was it what what desktop were you using katie katie okay uh were there any like usability issues that you experienced or do you just not use it long enough to properly uh get a feel for that
Starting point is 00:38:45 i wouldn't say i used it long enough to really know i didn't notice much in terms of like shortcomings that i could tell the only thing i really noticed was um it undid my hotkey for uh the terminal which was uh super t i just had to go in the settings and set that again. Oh, yeah. That's a reasonable binding. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. I use a super enter.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's just something I've always used. I think I3 has a super enter, and that's why I just kept using it. Yeah, for KDE, the default is control alt T, but I hate holding down three keys to open my terminal. I'd rather just do two. No, that's fair. Like, I think I do have some... Do I have any three? No, I definitely do
Starting point is 00:39:36 have some three-layer bindings. I use Super Shift a lot. I'll have Super Shift. I'll do key bindings for some stuff if like I don't have another choice it's just if I have the choice between using a 2 key or a 3 key I'm gonna prefer the 2 key
Starting point is 00:39:50 yeah yeah yeah so what has your game performance actually been like? now that everything's just working like it should how much smoother do things feel? do you think it was worth the worth buying a new GPU or if I can manage to do the
Starting point is 00:40:07 rendering stuff i need to as well 100 worth it yeah yeah because the performance is like night and day i'm gonna keep going back to it because it's the biggest example of it but final fantasy 15 when i was on my old 980 ti i would struggle to get 720p 30 was not a fun time Jesus Christ I'd have 720p 30 sometimes get up to 60 and then I'd get in a fight with like 3 enemies and it would kind of start freezing every so often
Starting point is 00:40:37 now I'm running 720p 60 upscaled to 1080 nothing has slowed this thing down at all why are you still playing at 720 if you've got a 6650 because it was set to that setting and I forgot to turn it off
Starting point is 00:40:54 I really don't want to go through well because I'm using the FSR which has this super long string of launch options you add to the game uh-huh um if you set the game to 1080p with those launch options on it doesn't like it and it gets choppy and i was triggered it's like why is this running like shit oh i have fsr on i changed my settings back to 720p and it's like oh, this is instantly amazing and perfect. Right. So that's
Starting point is 00:41:29 even though you're running at 720, it's running a lot smoother now. Yeah, that was for Final Fantasy XV. Other games I've been running native 1080p and it's been totally fine. I ran some of Final Fantasy XIV. I ran Among Us because Among Us Among Us runs on a phone.
Starting point is 00:41:46 That's like saying I ran Stardew Valley and it ran well. But the thing I will say about Among Us is that I used to have occasional animation hitches and now with improvements on Proton, the only
Starting point is 00:42:01 hitch I have is if I've clicked off the game and clicked back, the game tries to go to bordered, non-bordered for a split second when you switch back. Which is kind of annoying, but if that's the only other hitch, Proton's gotten amazing. Holy
Starting point is 00:42:18 shit. But what were some other games I tried out? I can't remember now. Hold on, let me look at Steam. Didn't you play Persona? I played some of that on my Steam deck. Ah, okay. I loaded it up on there, but I didn't leave the menu because I was just testing the save files.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Oh, yeah, yeah. I know you were very much involved in the bug reporting for Persona. I wouldn't say very much i made a couple things like hey i've got a steam deck and i have the game need me to post well yeah you at least were like you know getting involved in that yeah before people started getting one of my favorite games of all time so i want to speak of my favorite games you just played through the world ends with you i uh i've not finished it yet i'm waiting for that last stream yeah i almost finished it because my parents showed up and yeah it i'm gonna finish it
Starting point is 00:43:12 this week though um what are you even thinking of that i okay so it i don't know okay it's a i hate the the combat system initially the combat system took a while to get used to um i think that's the thing that sort of has been the biggest drawback for the game i i think it's an interesting system but it it really screams nintendo ds like this oh yeah no it was definitely a game designed around the ds yeah yeah involved its weird quirks and like one of the best ways if you're playing it on original hardware yeah um but a game like pokemon ranger for example makes use of that bottom screen but doesn't make use of it in an annoying way, I would say.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like, Pokemon range, you have Pokemon on the top screen, you have stuff going on the bottom screen. That works. 358 over two days. And a lot of other games use the bottom screen as a map. Or is it the top screen? One of the screens was a map. For 358, it was the bottom screen one of them one of the screens with a map um for 358 it was the bottom
Starting point is 00:44:25 screen yeah yeah okay um for anyone who hasn't played the world ends with you basically uh you can in combat you control two characters uh characters at the same time so you're gonna have neku on the top i play the screens left uh left uh left, uh, side to side. Neku's on bottom, because Neku is touchscreen. Okay, right. Right, right, right, very good. Yeah, I play the screen side by side. Um, so, I couldn't remember. Anyway, Neku's on the bottom screen, and then whoever your partner is at the time, whether it's Shiki, uh, Beat, or Joshua.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Joshua. Um, yeah. Forgot his name. Um, you will then control them using either the uh directional buttons or the face buttons and the the like the purpose of doing this you want to bounce back and forth between doing combos but you still have to like dodge attacks and block attacks we don't really need to do if you just are over leveled and not playing on the high difficulties um but if you are playing the high difficulties you have to dodge attacks and block attacks while also doing the same thing with neku so it's sort of like
Starting point is 00:45:29 playing two games at the exact same time um it's a weird system rpg strat of my numbers are bigger than yours yeah well i'm playing on normal mode and i've gotten to the point and i because you have at this point i have like four pin slots or five pin slots I just have two heals you've got six there's one of them I'm missing oh yeah because you start with three so if you were at the end of the game and only had four you did something very wrong
Starting point is 00:45:55 no it's five yeah this is the last one I'm missing I don't know if that's like you have to do some random nonsense at the shop so it's a new game plus thing or how you get that one but yeah I'm missing one of them there's some i think it's some side thing you can do to unlock it i can't remember i think i beat the game with five as well yeah um so yeah i i think that system is really neat it's grown on me i don't hate it as much anymore um but i still am very curious about playing neo the world ends with you because that's a completely different system and it's a lot better for modern controllers
Starting point is 00:46:33 and i kind of want to go play one of the remakes of the ds game just to see how it is literally exactly the same except you don't control the second character. Oh, so you just do Neku stuff. It's just Neku, and it's done via either a touchscreen or pointer controls. Okay, okay. Maybe that's less interesting than I thought it was then. Yeah, no, it's just... The Switch version is an HD reskin of the mobile port, which was reworked from two characters to one for one screen.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Right, right, right, right. Okay. Okay, that's enough complaining then. The music fucking slaps. I love the music so much. I love it so much. I don't think there's a single bad track in the game. For all that's to do, its control scheme is meant for original hardware, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It was not meant for anything else. Yeah, yeah. Other games, it sounds like they were trying to take a traditional control scheme and then add a touchscreen to it. The World Ends With You feels like it was designed with DS shape in mind. Because the way for anyone especially watching the way you control the second character is with only the d-pad yeah so your other hand is free to do the touch screen you can use face buttons if you want um but yeah whether you're left or right handed yeah yeah yeah um it yeah it's a system that's for sure i think i think some games do a lot better with emulation
Starting point is 00:48:06 like pokemon ranger for example yes that would play fine oh that'd be amazing especially if you have one where you have like a drawing tablet with the screen on it you can see where you're drawing the problem with the world ends with you combat is it works fine for some of the pins the slash pins like whether it's slashing neku or slashing the enemy those work fine tapping empty space works fine where it gets weird is tapping the enemies just because if you're emulating you're like playing it on a much much larger screen so it's a lot harder to reach to where you need to go and actually hit them yeah that's why i'll typically say to play that game to play it on a phone because it's a similar size screen yeah yeah you just have like a stylus or something or be like me and use a galaxy note and you have a
Starting point is 00:48:55 stylus built into the phone one um one unexpected thing is i accidentally jumped into a like a side thing that i don't remember where it was but you were just given a set of pins it didn't tell you what the pins were you just had to beat these noise with this set of pins it gave you oh fun one of the pins was a microphone pin but
Starting point is 00:49:21 here's the thing my emulator automatically detected the shore, so I could actually use it. Oh, I love that. It worked. I forgot there were games back then that used the microphone for things. It was a very weird time for video games. It was a problem in Pokemon. Which game?
Starting point is 00:49:46 In Gen 4 Pokemon, they introduced a Pokemon called Chatot. Right. Chatot had a move where its attack was a sound thing where you can record your own noise for it to play. Yup. Yup. And then the internet happened.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Mhm. Mhm. So people were going into online matches in Pokemon using Chatot and this attack would then screen obsidities and racism and all sorts of horrible things. Chatot was then banned from all online games.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Man. It's just... man it's just yeah yeah you know uh online interactions are not rated that's why every uh every multiplayer game has that because you can't control people yeah uh but yeah so so music really good music really really good um what else is good oh i found the game that i was testing this with and i'm upset because it's the game i've been playing non-stop in my steam tech dragon quest 11s oh i need to go and play i need to go and play that game you need to do that and then after this i need to play years eight because i finally bought that um yeah we'll talk about that in a moment because i fucking love that game um i haven't played it yet it's gonna be next the art style i love i i love the pixel art style of
Starting point is 00:51:15 um the original ds version of the world ends with you i think the the remake style looks fine but i don't know there's something which one uh the art style emboldens with you in the original ds version the ds version and the mobile version is the same art style yeah um just in the phone version the cut scenes are hd the gameplay itself is still the same pixel art doesn't the switch version smooth everything out though yeah switch version it's all hd lines and crisp lines and stuff it still looks good it's just like i really like the ds's pixel arts and then dx that's my favorite pixel art of any console absolutely because it gave so it had enough power where you could do basically anything you'd want to do with pixel art. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And people just found really cool art styles to work with it. Yeah. Without falling into that hole I see a lot of some indie games do where they just go... They'll make pixel art, but then use way more color than their art style would have matched with. Ah, yep. Yep, that makes sense yeah i was trying to think of an example but i could not one's not coming to mind i can't think of one either now but i've seen it out to be like people they'll do like an 8-bit style and they'll have like 32 colors in it. And it's like, that's not right. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That makes sense. I think the other major thing to talk about is the characters. I think the character interact... Okay, it's also helped by the fact the translation is kind of scuffed. It's very... The translation's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's very, you know, early 2000s JRPG translation. Oh, absolutely. Whether it's, you know, meme imprinting, things like that. Yeah. I think the, uh, the story itself still holds up, but the way that it's told is really aging. Not the best because they were, it's all about being hip and trendy at the time it was not so much anymore oh it's just a relic of the past now it's so good um but the core story itself still resonates very well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely um i didn't like neku at the
Starting point is 00:53:43 start but i guess that's kind of the point. You're not supposed to like him. Yeah, you weren't supposed to. If you do like Neku at the start, talk to a therapist. Yeah, like, go touch grass or something. No, I think all of the characters... I think there's a single character I dislike.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I think they all have their place in the story. I find them all amusing they're in their own little way even like just random side characters like the um the kid that shows up who tries to get you to play uh what's the the the pin minigame thing tin pin slammer yeah tin pin slammer oh him the one who looks like he's like a knockoff combination of every children's Yeah, Tinvin Slammer. Oh, him. The one who looks like he's like a knockoff combination of every children's anime protagonist. Yeah, he looks like he's straight out of Beyblade.
Starting point is 00:54:33 We took Naruto, we took Ash Ketchum, we took Yukimoto, we took the guy from Beyblade. Yup, yup. I think if I had to say my favorite character... I'm embarrassed that I don't remember the main character Tai that's what it's named No that was Digimon Was the main character in Old School Beyblade still called Tai?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Um I can't remember I know in the metal fusion reboot thing it was Jenga But that's not the one I'm talking about Although he kind of looks like him too Again he looks like him too. Again, he looks like generic children's anime protagonist. If I had to say my favorite character,
Starting point is 00:55:14 it'd probably be... It'd probably be Beat. Beat is, yeah, Beat's definitely one of my favorites. I do know what's his name the guy who likes to scream math jokes all the time shows up again
Starting point is 00:55:30 in the second game so ZetaSlow I was very happy when I found out that he comes back in the second game yes oh my gosh he's great I do know a lot of the characters from the first game do come back
Starting point is 00:55:47 yeah besides seeing the trailers and things like that I occasionally like to check out wikis for things when I shouldn't the thing for me that made me freak out about that is the fact that I played this game the year after it came out
Starting point is 00:56:03 and um this is gonna be minor spoilers for the end of the game well you already know about Shiki and her best friend yeah yeah in the original the world ends with you you never see what Shiki actually looks like
Starting point is 00:56:21 at the end of the game you see like her start to pan up and you see the bottom of the game. You see like her start to pan up and you see the bottom of her face and the ends of her glasses and that's it. It just fades to white. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And you never find out what she looks like until now with the sequel. That's rough. I'm just like, because what they did is they released the mobile port and it had an extra bit of story that was like hinting at there's some new story to come that came out like i think two years after the original okay right and then nothing until like 2016 17 when the switch port came out and it had the same extra content and you get the
Starting point is 00:57:08 sequel and then nothing yeah yeah i'm just sitting here like you keep re-releasing the game why is there not a sequel already that's honestly like the fact they did re-releases like that and then just took so long. It wasn't until 2021 where the sequel actually came out. Yeah, it was literally them trying to prove that there is a market for it. And then Square goes and just doesn't advertise the game. Yeah, I did hear the game didn't do super well. No, because I've talked to people and they're like- like they've mentioned like, oh yeah, The World Ends With You, I loved that game. It's like, oh, did you play the sequel?
Starting point is 00:57:48 There was a sequel? Yeah, it came out on like the PS4. I thought that was a remake! Oh my god. I'm just like, this is why this game franchise is failing. Actually, the funny thing is when I uh, when I- I first knew the game was on the PS4, I actually thought that was a remake before i looked into it exactly because neo the world ends he doesn't sound like a sequel anyway yeah it sounds like new the world ends with you because that's what neo stands for so like oh it's a new version of the world ends with you so okay you have have you done anything with e8 yet or have you just bought it no i have it bought and installed on my steam deck and that's
Starting point is 00:58:34 it i don't i don't want to say anything then i literally haven't even opened it yet because one of my friends has been begging me for like the past year to play Dragon Quest XI S. Because I love Dragon Quest. And I finally started playing it. And I'm just like, yeah, of course you were right. I love this game. Because of course I do. I did see a bunch of people complaining.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Like Dragon Quest XI S. There's nothing special about it. It's just a JRPG. I'm just like. It's Dragon Quest. That's the point of Dragon Quest. Yeah, it's Dragon Quest's nothing special about it it's just a jrpg i'm just like dragon quest that's the point of dragon quest yes dragon quest we fucking talk about the point of dragon quest 11 is a classic jrpg with modern production value what i have played is a classic jrpg with modern production value the last jr the last um dragon quest game i finished um was sentinels of the starry sky on the ds yeah um dragon quest 10 never came to the west that's so dragon quest 10 was an mmo on the wii oh okay oh wait what supposedly there is a single player version coming to the West
Starting point is 00:59:46 at some point. Sorry, go back. Do you say MMO on the Wii? On the Wii, yes. Just on the Wii? On the Wii. They might have been on other platforms as well, but I know it was on the Wii. And it's not even one that you can
Starting point is 01:00:01 proxy, because you have to have a Japanese bank in order to pay for it. The fuck? There was a... Okay, there is apparently a Windows version at some point. I don't know if that came out way later. I think that's planned to release.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I don't think that's out yet. I see. Because supposedly there is a single-player version coming. Right, right, right, right, right. There's rumors that the MMO will come to the West as well. I don't know if I trust them, but if it does happen, I'm canceling Final Fantasy XIV and
Starting point is 01:00:33 playing that. Apparently a browser version came out in Japan in 2020. A browser version? Yeah. How the hell do you run a dragon quest game in the browser uh embedded unity or something I don't fucking know
Starting point is 01:00:50 it's made on crystal tools I don't ask me I have no idea wait it's made on crystal tools that's a name it's made on crystal tools wait isn't crystal tools It's made on Crystal Tools. Yeah, it's made on... That's a name. It's made on Crystal Tools.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's made on the... Wait, wait, isn't Crystal Tools the game, the engine that 14 was originally made on? Yeah, no, no. Is it? Oh, my God. It's the one that 14 was originally made on that Yoshi-P chucked in the bin. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:01:22 What's in this? Oh, my God. Wait, when did the original 14 come out? I don't know. oh my god wait when did the original 14 come out original 14 it was prior ps3 because 14 was initially a ps3 exclusive so it was sometime during then
Starting point is 01:01:38 wait okay 2010 when did realm reborn come out realm reborn 2014 i think so When did Realm Reborn come out? Realm Reborn? 2014? I think so? Um. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Because. Where the fuck is Realm Reborn? Give me information. Something tell me where Realm Reborn came out. Uh. Realm Reborn. Release. Day. Okay. 2013. Realm Reborn came out. Realm Reborn release date
Starting point is 01:02:07 2013. Oh my... Okay, do you want... Oh, that's hilarious. Okay, so here is the timeline that Square Enix works with, right? 2010.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Final Fantasy 14 1.0 comes out.'s a fucking mess okay 2012 dragon quest 10 comes out built on crystal 2013 roam reborn comes out chucks crystal tools in the bin Okay, so according to Nintendo Life, Dragon Quest X Rise of the Five Tribes Offline is releasing in Japan later this year. Initially it was scheduled for February.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And then it was pushed back to release in September. Oh no. And then it was pushed back. Huh. To release in... Oh, September. Oh, no. Is it already out in Japan? If it's already out in Japan, then... Surely someone would have a translation patch at some point. Still no Western release release god damn it
Starting point is 01:03:27 i'm just i'm just not gonna get to play final uh dragon quest 10 am i probably not probably not why do you hate me this is my childhood jrpg is dragon quest this is what i grew up playing what was your first dragon quest game uh first one i believe was four oh wow okay i have been around for a while then um i never beat it okay i mean i grew up on old consoles so like most people my age had like an Xbox when I was a kid. I had an NES at a Game Boy Color. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's. And I love that thing. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. It would still be fun. It's your first console. Yeah. I mean, to this day, one of my favorite games is still like Mario Bros. 3.
Starting point is 01:04:26 That's a good choice. That's a pretty good choice. But like, I never had a Super Nintendo or an N64. I skipped straight to GameCube after that. Okay. Yeah, no, it was weird.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I might have to go and actually play DQ11. I've been wanting to play it for a while. Because it has been a while since I've played a Drag Quest game. And it was fun. I am in. The community has split it up into three acts. Act 1, Act 2, Act 3. I am in Act 2.
Starting point is 01:05:00 The entire main story takes place in the first two acts. And then the third act is like just a whole second story, apparently. Okay. Okay. So it's like, imagine a game with postgame, except the postgame feels like a sequel. Huh.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Which I think is amazing. I'm just like, yes, please. I cannot wait for this. That's a... Yeah, That's a weird concept. I mean, it gets you playing the game longer. Yeah, for sure. I hope you enjoy Ys VIII. I really do.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I believe I will. I saw some clips from when you played it. And it looks like a lot of fun. Well, just the soundtrack alone, alone i hope catched your attention the only the only issue you're gonna run into is i'm not gonna say too much but there is there are enemies that appear in the second half of the game so the game's kind of broken down into two halves. You have, hey, this is not a JRPG. Holy shit, this is a JRPG. It starts off pretty grounded.
Starting point is 01:06:15 This isn't, okay, this isn't a spoiler. It just says it in the description of the game. Basically, you're living, you're in a shipwreck, you're on an island, and you're just trying to, like, you know, build up this village and, like, build up a boat to eventually get off the island. That's all, like, normal grounded stuff. In the second half is when it's like, okay, let's just go fucking wild. And there's an enemy that starts showing up during that point
Starting point is 01:06:42 that has a really annoying stun that cannot be avoided and it ends up becoming a very common enemy no um but i doubt you're gonna play on the higher difficulties anyway um oh no i doubt it yeah so they're not terribly annoying but it it's kind of it's kind of jank i typically just leave it at default difficulty yeah also the game is incredibly the game's uh got some hilarious bugs in it like um if you have your character swap this is actually part of the speedrun strat uh the game lets you dual bind so if you bind your character swap roll and attack to the same button um every time you roll you slightly increase your height so you can actually just leave the map if you do that oh my god that's amazing um also the game has a interesting way to handle crossing long gaps um if you jump and you roll
Starting point is 01:07:57 you can actually roll multiple times in the air so if you jump for a really high place, you can just like basically fly to somewhere else. Oh my God. Well, this is the, this is the first like full, not full 3D, the first like proper third person action game that they've done. Okay. Yeah. Cause all the other years games were 2D, weren't they? They were 2D or isometric 3D. Okay. Oh, that's right, because the one on the PSP, was it?
Starting point is 01:08:31 What was that, Ys 7? Something like that, yeah. So, they'd never actually built a system like this before. And, yeah. They just didn't know how to do it. Pretty much. And then with Ys 9, they were like,'t know how to do it pretty much and then with east nine they were like you know what fuck it everyone enjoyed that system let's just build it into the game and they made the game a lot more about um you know exploring around and going through like climbing
Starting point is 01:08:59 up buildings things like that okay yeah because dragon quest 9 uh 11 does that too where you can like climb on top of buildings and stuff because this is i think the first again the first proper three no dragon quest 10 would have been but it never released in the u.s wasn't or in the west eight proper 3d dragon quest 9 um was full 3d Dragon Quest VIII was, but I don't think you had, like, the ability to jump on stuff in those. Ah, yep, that makes sense. Yeah, VIII was. That's one thing I noticed in this, is that I start the game up, and it's like, press this button to jump. I'm just like, what?
Starting point is 01:09:42 We're doing platforming this bitch? jump i'm just like what we're doing platforming this bitch uh no i love it when a game just has a jump button but there's no platform at all it's just like here's jump button just have one why not yeah no you do some very minute platforming of like jump on a thing jump on a thing jump on a thing you're on the roof and then walk that's like all right so do i need to like balance across this rope in order to get that no just walk we do it all for you do good i'm actually really surprised you kept playing 15 because i watched when you stopped playing it on stream that was that was fun ew oh that that was so bad i still hate it xp system yeah it's not good like and i'm in the discord for the mods and stuff which is how i actually got the button labels for my 8-bit dough controller yes um a guy was nice enough to be i think he's actually
Starting point is 01:10:38 the server admin um to be like hey here's the file that would be edited and i went through and edited it it's like okay and i'll use my program to turn it into an actual mod file you could install oh wow because the programs for doing that were only on windows i'm just like i don't want to move everything between two computers that's really nice i did that i installed the file and now i've got the button labels that match my controller which is nice yep yep and uh yeah but they were talking about it's like the xp system's pretty good you just go you grind a bunch of stuff then you go to sleep it's like okay but um why is it not just applying after the fight like every other rpg in existence
Starting point is 01:11:19 uh with this system you can actually completely balk the leveling. So I would do, like, tons of side quests, and then you go sleep in Golden Key, and you get the double XP. So I would go up, like, 15 levels in, like, one sleep. Oh, my God. But, yeah, the leveling system, so so for anyone who hasn't played 15, basically you will gain
Starting point is 01:11:50 experience, but it doesn't apply until you go to bed. So and depending on where you go to bed, depends on what sort of experience bonus you get. So if you go to bed at a camp, it's like 1x, but if you go to bed at Golden Key, which is like
Starting point is 01:12:05 10,000 guild asleep there, it's double XP. Yeah, or you can run into a situation which is what I did, where you go through a thing one or two levels below what you should, get through an entire dungeon to the very end,
Starting point is 01:12:22 beating every enemy that comes your way and collecting all the experience and then die to the very end, beating every enemy that comes your way and collecting all its experience, and then die to the very last thing. And you get none of the XP from the entire dungeon. How do you feel about the, um, the dodge mechanic? You know, where it shows a button on the screen and the attack's
Starting point is 01:12:45 nowhere near you? It's weird. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It's so weird. But then if you, I don't know if you worked this out, but if you hold down the button, if the attack still comes near you, you actually dodge then.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Really? Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. So you can just never, so there are people who will play the game just i don't know what a button it is for you but on the playstation control it's the square button so you just hold down square and you never get hit yeah for me i have the same binds just with nintendo layout so yeah yeah yeah it's dumb it's really dumb is there anything you like about 15 the character designs i love how all the characters they all look amazing well that's one of the things that, uh... Also, people say, like, the characters get annoying. I'm just like, no, this is just Edgelord JRPG,
Starting point is 01:13:49 which is exactly what I expected, so I mean... Yes, Final Fantasy game. Especially a Final Fantasy game in a pseudo-modern setting. Mm-mm-mm. Well, yeah, it was part of... Originally part of the... What the fuck was it called?
Starting point is 01:14:04 Fabula Nova Cry nova cristales or something that subsection of final yeah i think that's what it was um that subsection of the final fantasy releases yeah fabula nova cristales which is includes 13 um type 0 and 15 15 is technically not in it was originally going to be when it was versus 13, but it's still got a lot of that, um, those same design principles. So it's still in this modern setting. It's still all about,
Starting point is 01:14:32 uh, still all about the crystals in this modern. I feel like if I went back and played 13, I would actually like it. I'm playing through 13 right now. It's actually not that bad. Hey, um, like it i'm playing through 13 right now it's actually not that bad hey um i didn't grow up final fantasy outside of like whatever the one they ported to the game boy advance was i had that i didn't either my first final fantasy game was playing 10 on the ps3 remake i didn't even do that
Starting point is 01:15:02 the other piece again i had the one i think it was three that they ported the gba and that was the only one i had yep yep the um the ps3 remake was so ps4 remake was completely broken on launch um so in ff10 uh every time you go into an enemy encounter, it is supposed to do a random enemy generation. So if you die, for example, then you encounter a different set of enemies. However, in the PS4 version, the seed was locked. So if you save before a fight,
Starting point is 01:15:47 that fight would always be the exact same fight. So you, in some situation, could softlock the game. Oh. Oh no. They eventually fixed it by, you know, making the seed change.
Starting point is 01:16:02 But yeah, initially it was completely broken. Speaking of soft locks i um i wanted to try to run some emulators on my steam deck oh so i got uh mgba which is my favorite gameboy advance emulator and i wanted to try out something i was like i'm in the mood for pokemon let's go look some pokemon romhacks that are fun uh and there's one called uh dark violet or something it's a remake of fire red made to follow a little bit more closely to the pokemon adventures manga okay sure i'm just like okay that's cool i've read the original run of pokemon adventures the whole kanto region um and then I started reading Johto and it stopped, and I forget why.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Which is weird, because Johto's my favorite region. But I went and I installed the game, I loaded it up, everyone's talking about it. It's like, yeah, it's pretty cool. It's got some edgy stuff because it's from 2011 or whatever. But if you overlook that, overall the game's pretty good. I got Softlock at the very beginning of the game.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Oh, how did that one happen? Your RNG. They changed one crucial thing about the Pokemon games that they shouldn't have. Right. When you start a Pokemon game, a gen one or a gen one remake, when you fight your rival, uh, right when you start a pokemon game a gen 1 or gen 1 remake when you fight your rival uh right after you get your pokemon what happens when you lose
Starting point is 01:17:31 uh i've never actually lost i don't actually know if you lose the battle ends they say ha i win i'll see you later and they run off and you continue the game. Not in this. In this, if you lose, you get sent home, you walk out, and then you have to fight them again. Because of RNG, they outsped me and the AI would only choose damaging moves. So I could not win.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Do you not get the potion from your PC? There wasn't a potion. There were three Oran Berries. Oh, you still had the Oran Berries? Yeah, I could use the Oran Berries now, because I found that after the fact, but if you didn't look at the PC, which most people don't look at the PC...
Starting point is 01:18:21 Is this designed to be a more challenging mod? Not that I know of. Oh lord. Here's the thing. You can win. But you have to get a crit. So it's just pure RNG whether you win or not.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And then he has to not get a crit. And then here's the thing. And then you beat or not. And then he has to not get a crit. And then here's the thing, yeah. And then you beat your rival. This game, however, has two rivals. You have both blue and green, and you're playing as Red.
Starting point is 01:18:57 The girl character from the Avengers manga. You fight her immediately after. And it's the same situation. If they outspeed you, the AI only chooses damaging moves. If you lose to either one of them, you have to restart fighting both.
Starting point is 01:19:12 How did the, um, the starters work for that one? Who gets the advantageous one? Uh, I believe the male, which in the West is blue, but in Japan is green. Yep, yep, yeah yeah yeah which i go by the japanese names because that's what they went by in the manga yep yep yep at least i was reading
Starting point is 01:19:34 a fan translation um i think they flip them the official translation which i didn't know existed until after i'd read the whole thing which was like i need to know where to get these. I've never read the Pokemon manga. Maybe I should do that. I read it way back in like either middle or high school. I've heard it's... I would love to own them. I've heard it's definitely much darker. It is absolutely darker.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Like, Pokemon legitimately die. Oh! Oh! Yeah, I'm having a look at some pictures right now is it the arbok uh i'm just scrolling through so we have a there's one of an arbok getting sliced in half we have a poly world getting stabbed in the chest uh yeah i see the arbok getting sliced in half. Yep, there it is. That's usually one of the first ones that pops up. I see a Psyduck decomposing.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Yeah. What the fuck? The Arbok's the only one that really pops up. It's not super gory, it's just every once in a while. Right, right. Like, in the entirety of the entire Kanto run I think I saw something like Pokemon getting killed like Maybe twice In the entire run So like two panels out of the entire manga run
Starting point is 01:20:53 But still This is What the fuck Is going on Oh, Famillion City got blown up Okay, that's cool It's not like super dark and edgy. It's just slightly darker.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah, yeah. It's like them answering the questions that you always have in the back of your mind of like, wait, where do the hamburgers come from? It's like, oh, it comes from the mill tank we killed. Oh, cool. What the fuck is this and that i think i read the first chapter of the black and white one yeah yeah but i didn't go any further than that which fun fact they don't use the canon game names for any of the characters it's always based off the versions ah yeah by the time we get to x and y the darkest thing that's happening is someone is a shut-in yeah
Starting point is 01:21:53 yeah they lightened it up a lot um so like for um gen 3 instead of having may and um oh my god what's his name brendan brendan yeah instead of may and brendan it's ruby and sapphire ah right ruby's the guy sapphire's the girl um instead of hilda and hilbert it's black and white right right literally their names are black and white that makes sense yeah i get that i don't know if what they did for black to white to because it'd be really named to say hi white to the sequel the white
Starting point is 01:22:36 just flip him this time say fuck it doesn't matter I mean at this point you're using colors as names throughout the entire series why stop there yeah um i mean it's no weirder than elon musk's kids who are algebra equations oh man i speaking of elon this fucking this twitter nonsense has been so fun i love love it. It's great. Did you see what was going on yesterday when Elon was like, hey,
Starting point is 01:23:09 Twitter has too many microservices. Let's Oh, yeah. Let's just turn them off. Only like 20% of people use them or something like that. And then they can't get two factor authentication codes sent. Yeah, apparently it was just
Starting point is 01:23:24 I will add to that. Don't use your phone number for two factor authentication code sent. Yeah, apparently it was just the app. I will add to that, don't use your phone number for two factor authentication. Yeah, it was the SMS2FA, so it wasn't you know, It wasn't like apps. Yeah. Either way though, it broke people being able to log in. The thing is, and Hank Green brought this,
Starting point is 01:23:44 I mentioned John Green before, now I'm mentioning Hank Green. He brought up this in one of his YouTube shorts. Because Vlogbrothers, I end up watching their shorts way more than their actual videos now. I don't know why. But he brought up, the video was Elon was right. Mm-hmm. Elon said on Twitter a while back, people don't want Twitter to be good people want it to be
Starting point is 01:24:07 a dumpster fire reality TV show that they want to watch unfold in real time lo and behold this is exactly what's happening and everyone's eating it up did you see I'll see if I can find it
Starting point is 01:24:22 Elon was praising the fact that Twitter daily active users are up. I wonder why they're up. It's a mystery to me. Yeah, no, can't tell at all. Let's see. Also, wait for him to realize that users are up, but advertisers down is still not good for business. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:47 I think my favorite part about the monetization strategy, you might call it, of Twitter right now is fucking wing it. Wing it. Is this one. Also the lovely, for oh my god also it's a really misrepresented graph anyway it makes it look like it's a big job the post people made where it's just like uh a story in fourth panels panel one no more lords and peasants. Twitter verification for all for $8 a month. We're going to remove the official verification so that anyone can have it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Eli Lilly. Insulin is now free. Stock market plummets. Yep. Twitter support. We will now be introducing a verification system to know who is official it's like immediate backpedal oh man like some of those tweets were incredible like you had um you had a fake uh george bush who uh what was the what was the george the fake
Starting point is 01:26:03 george bush one i think it was something like, I miss killing Iraqis or something. Something crazy and outlandish. Because that's all these are. One from Pope Francis that was trying to sell his merch. I missed that one. There was a fake senator talking about,
Starting point is 01:26:28 um, fuck, who was it? Oh, talking about Nancy Pelosi's tits. Uh, Oh my God. It's just so many good ones.
Starting point is 01:26:39 And like, like all Twitter had to do, right? Okay. Introduce Twitter blue, like Twitter blue check marks, like, all Twitter had to do, right? Okay. Introduce Twitter blue, like, Twitter blue check marks, verification, whatever they call it. Don't use the same icon! Yeah, just change the color. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:26:56 That's all you had to do, was just change the color. Literally the only thing. Twitter blue is blue. Verified? Black or white or grey Or some neutral colour I wouldn't be changing the existing verification I would change the new one
Starting point is 01:27:11 Just because that could lead to weird confusion there Well I'd say make the Twitter blue one Verification blue because Twitter blue you can tell at a glance Or use a different icon Oh yeah put like instead of a checkmark Put a little Twitter bird. Yeah. That could work. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:27:28 No, no, gotta use a checkmark. Because the checkmark has to be distributed to the people. Except for the people who don't have money. Yeah, yeah, except those people. They're not real people. No more of this lords and peasants shit. Pay me money like a lord
Starting point is 01:27:44 and a peasant just stop being poor wait a minute hold on here's a i'll send you this one so there are people who are using so you know there are those um tools to generate uh like fake humans there are people buying a bunch of check marks for fake accounts with fake humans running them oh my god so they look like totally legitimate accounts because there is a real person there and yeah no no no these people are not real none of these people are real oh my god there's so many of them there's a guy called dick winter private investigator which is a great name by the way um good troll i love it um but yeah like it how elon didn't think this was going to happen is beyond me. I genuinely don't know how anyone...
Starting point is 01:28:49 Well, no, I do know. Because he fired the people who were telling him to not do this. Oh, yeah, no, there was that, um... The engineer called him out over the microservices? Yeah, who was just like, okay, here's what happens. This is why it's actually important.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Here's what we could do to reduce that thing. And instead we could try this and do these sort of things. Yes, you're right. There are issues and this is how we could solve them. You're fired. What? You don't care. No.
Starting point is 01:29:19 You just want to watch the world burn. Honestly, like I, I'm convinced at this point. So initially, I was very hopeful for Elon running Twitter. I was like, surely, no matter what Elon does... Oh, yeah, I saw your post on Mastodon, and you're like, it can't be worse than the old owners. It can't be any worse than what was already happening. That aged like fine milk.'ve you've impressed me elon like you genuinely have
Starting point is 01:29:50 this is a 5d chest like in like what i think this is elon hates twitter so much that he bought it for 44 billion dollars just so he could burn it into, like, just grind it into dust and, like, burn it to the ground. Otherwise, I have no idea what he's doing. I would not put it past him. I have no idea what he's doing otherwise. It doesn't make any sense. I would not put it past him.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Hehehe. Ugh. But hey, at least it's giving some attention to the Fediverse. Yep. Follow us on Mastron. Even though a lot of people are getting very confused by it. Luna made a post about it, that people were seeing
Starting point is 01:30:38 Fediverse and saying, oh, it's for Crypto Bros. Oh, yeah. It's like, Jesus Christ, these people have ruined anything decentralized decentralized haven't they yeah yeah yeah it was decentralized it has to be related to blockchains yeah like people it's the issue i had with um that live space service that started popping up live space it was it's a streaming platform that they were talking about. We are going to do an 80,
Starting point is 01:31:08 20, uh, yeah, 80, 20 split with creators and stuff. Uh, by the way, our system is built off of theorem.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Uh, yeah. Um, they're not directly using it. They're basically taking the excess power from people, mining a theorem and using that to encode and decode but they're still relying on the fact that people are mining ethereum
Starting point is 01:31:31 and it took me two days of just asking them directly in their discord over and over to get a to get that fucking answer that's a different one. I made a whole tweet about it. There are multiple companies with the same name.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Live Space. Live Space on Twitter. Is it Life or Live? Live. Live, okay. O-I-V-E. Uh, I can't- I'm finding a literate-
Starting point is 01:32:09 a literate- a completely different company. It's a fucking home interior company. Hold on. Wait, no, I think I- Is this the one? Audio, video- No, it's another company also called Live Space.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Why are there so many who are using the exact same name? God, I'm in their Discord still. Always stream LiveSpace? Is this it? Yes, that sounds right. Yes, okay, yes. Livestreaming built for creators. Buy creators, get discovered, and build your community.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Streamers get an 85 revenue split yes yeah they are they are not up front about the fact that they're using uh blockchain as a back end right and even though they're not directly using it which is slightly better it's still reliant on the fact that there are people using it. I'm intrigued, but is this true? This is crypto stuff, by the way. I showed it to a friend and they pointed this part out. LiveSpace utilizes a decentralized video streaming network built on the Ethereum blockchain.
Starting point is 01:33:18 That sounds like a blockchain. It reduces the cost of hosting a video stream by 90% compared to other cloud providers. Yeah, essentially the way they're using it is that because they're using the excess power other people are using, they're not adding any additional power use. Uh-huh. But the thing is, their whole thing falls apart if people stop mining Ethereum.
Starting point is 01:33:41 So people have to mine Ethereum for for it to work which is really not any better uh you said crypto wasn't involved in this but ethereum is a cryptocurrency and it says anyone who uses this will be rewarded with said eth count me out we don't receive eth using live peer we pay our service provider in traditional currency to process our track oh hey you're responding here a platform does not involve cryptocurrency in any way. Huh. Except it absolutely is. I don't know why they would be...
Starting point is 01:34:12 Why they wouldn't be up front about that. It makes them seem even sketchier when you're not up front. I think they're trying to hide the fact because they know people will blow up about it, but hiding it is just going to make them blow up more. That makes sense. Like again. They're not adding any additional resource use to it.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Which was a good idea. But the fact that the system. Is still reliant on other people doing it. Just is not good. Especially when we have stuff like PureTube. I think the only issue with. Monetization on the Fediverse. Is monetization on the Fediverse.
Starting point is 01:34:52 I mean yeah. Like. Why we're on YouTube. Yeah. People have asked me. Hey Brody why don't you have a Peertube. I was just like. The only reason I would have a peer tube is as a backup
Starting point is 01:35:07 it's not a platform that i would use as like a primary video platform it's just it's just not good at that unless you were able to be entirely fan funded from patreon and nothing else yeah no that makes sense then like you could use it as like uh yeah no early release or something like that and you want to do... Or you just want to have your stuff somewhere that's not YouTube. Like, that makes sense. But I...
Starting point is 01:35:33 I don't think going all in on PeerTube makes any sense. That's why I'm... At least not if you're trying to make money off of content. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you're going to make money off of content yeah yeah yeah um i think if you're gonna be on another platform it has to have some sort of monetization structure that exists unless you already have your own external monetization like you know your uh let's say you're a comedian for example and you're just using this platform as a way to advertise yourself you're not making
Starting point is 01:36:06 your primary money from the the content this just exists to like direct people to where you actually make your money that i can see making sense um but you're not being like an ltd on on peer tube that's just not gonna happen no like ltd is like, it's got way too many employees, but like, you know, a normal YouTube channel where someone normally makes money. Unless some sort of wild sweeping change is made that makes it suddenly able to monetize on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Because you'd have to do either individual I don't even, is there even a way you could do advertisements that weren't embedded video advertisements? That's the only thing I can really think of. Because that would work fine. Yeah, I mean, if you got as many sponsor slots as LZT got, you would be able to survive on PeerTube.
Starting point is 01:36:58 But you would not keep getting those sponsor slots because your audience would shrink dramatically on PeerTube. Yeah, unless you would... getting those sponsor slots because your audience would shrink dramatically on peer tube yeah unless you would well that well that goes back to having peer tube as a backup if you're doing things primarily on youtube and then some of the extra money goes in to fund that peer tube backup that makes sense like that that's gonna work just fine. Right. But. I wish there was another good platform that you could host edited videos on, but YouTube's biggest competitor is a livestream platform. Yeah. And they're not really great at, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:39 getting live content out to people unless you're one of the biggest creators because they have no algorithm. Sort by most views. Whoever has the most gets more. Good system. See, not having that algorithm would be fine if they gave you more granular options.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Mmm. Right, right. But instead you have organized by views, highest, lowest. Okay, what else? Nah, that's it. You can search by category. Who's that? You can search by tag.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Yeah, in a list of stuff in order from highest to lowest. Yup, yup. Yup. It's a good system. Yeah. I think, give it a couple of years years if youtube keeps trying to poach uh twitch streamers it's going to get better and better like youtube actually has gotten better they actually have a um no i there's a reason i'm switching to youtube now for streams on a
Starting point is 01:38:38 on like a youtube page they actually have a live page now that splits out just like the live videos. They have a shorts page that just has shorts. I would like Did they roll it out? Ludwig has it. I don't know if it's available for everyone yet. I thought there was, okay. The thing I'm waiting for is for them to fully roll that out to everyone. Well, one thing they really need is
Starting point is 01:39:00 you click on a thing and it takes you directly to whatever is currently streaming. That's what they really need. Or if you go to their channel page, the live stream is front and center if they're live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fact that you have to go and like
Starting point is 01:39:15 find the individual, I get having the individual links for handling videos on the back end, fair enough, whatever, but it shouldn't be like that to the user. The user should just be given whatever is currently going on yeah if they would have the streams be front and center on your channel page but then like the stream itself is its own separate link for handling later that'd be fine because then you just give people your channel url and that's all they need in order to find you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:46 And YouTube also is just way further behind when it comes to emotes, things like that. That is getting better, once again, because of Ludwig actually just making the stuff for YouTube. Honestly, Ludwig is just going like, guys, come on, you have to fix this. They're like, all right, fine. That's why i said
Starting point is 01:40:05 like in a couple of years i i think there is some hope that it will catch up to twitch on the tech side because it's already caught up on like easily caught up on the the promotion side on the viewer side it's just the creator i mean they have ludwig so i mean it's just the creator tools are not there we need better creator tools we need a moderation we need moderation because there's not really much options in the way of that is there even a timeout in youtube streaming i i don't even know i know you can ban people i i think there might be maybe i think there is a timeout. But there's no moderation panel. So if I want to go and unban someone, my mods can't do it.
Starting point is 01:40:50 You've got to do it via commands and bots. Well, if you just want to do it like vanilla YouTube, you have to go into your channel page. So your mods can't do it. Go into your channel page. Go into the settings. Scroll down to the bottom and there's like this
Starting point is 01:41:07 menu hidden down a thing and you can like delete individual people off that list you can't search in that list you have to like scroll through it and find the person yeah speaking of uh youtube streaming there is another fun thing i discovered if you want to test your stream on YouTube, you cannot do it in a private or unlisted thing and have chat work. Can't do what? Chat does not work unless you are fully live public. I know it doesn't work private. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:41:41 I thought unlisted worked. It doesn't work unlisted either. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. What? It's really, really stupid. Yeah, it is. So if you want to test something, you have to do it on a burner account then. Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:01 And then you're going to have to change all yourls and stuff because you're on a different account uh youtube why just stop focusing on removing features and make things better i'm really annoyed with when they get to the um the channel page so what's changed uh under like your videos tab you used to be able to sort by like oldest videos you can't do that anymore oh yeah wait what really shit yeah you have the options of popular or recent uploaded that's all there you cannot sort by oldest oh yeah i've used that plenty of times go back and look at early videos from when I've guested on for example
Starting point is 01:42:49 look at their earliest stuff they've ever done my oldest video has my best stats oh that's rough almost 9000 views wow that's a lot I have not gotten close to that ever since. The next highest, I think, is just over 1,000. What was your first one?
Starting point is 01:43:13 And then it's in the low hundreds from then on. How to be a VTuber for free on Linux and Windows. Because it's the only video. Right. free on Linux and Windows. Because it's the only video. Ah, right. Right, right, right. Wow, I forgot that you used to have this model. Yeah, the very basic white shirt.
Starting point is 01:43:38 That was a while ago. That one was one that was like 40 bucks. Hey! That is what I based all later designs on It works You know It wasn't terrible Yeah it works I would never use it again nowadays
Starting point is 01:43:56 Now that I have the ones I do have Yeah no what you work with now definitely looks a lot better At least when your tools aren't flickering And things are breaking Yeah if my face isn't flickering in and out of existence. Yeah, it's always a good idea. There are some changes I want to make. Namely, there's a thing with character designs that you want to have a recognizable silhouette.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Right. My design looks good, but if you made it a silhouette, it just looks like a guy. Right, that makes sense. There's nothing to make it super standoutish um so one suggestion i saw for like i asked for like suggestions right now how do i prove it what i really like is like having a tie clip added that has something representing i was going to do the sort of glitch design my logo has because i think that'd be really cool. And then to add an animal in my pocket. Instead of the pocket square.
Starting point is 01:44:47 I thought maybe taking that animal, which would be a penguin because Linux. And instead putting it on my shoulder and seeing how that would work. Okay. Because that would make it a lot more recognizable. The thing is, I don't know if I want an animal on my shoulder that people are going to constantly ask about and stuff no do it and then never address it just be like so what's the penguin and just don't answer that question well that's what i do with the um the whiteboard i never address all the whiteboard things you write I never address this. Of all the whiteboard things you write. I never address this in my regular videos.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Of course not. People will comment about it like, what does that mean? No reply. Nothing. No like. No heart. Nothing. It's always something of course related to the video. Yeah. Usually it's some really bad joke.
Starting point is 01:45:42 So with what's on the whiteboard, I spend at max two minutes thinking of it. So sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's some really bad joke. So with what's on the whiteboard, I spend at max two minutes thinking of it. So sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's gold. Other times it's just, I did nothing. Whatever was in your head. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:56 No thought, head empty. Exactly. Exactly. I have the whiteboard. I've had it for ages and I just wanted to do something and just have something just going on in the background. the whiteboard i've had it for ages and i just wanted to do something and just have something just going on in the background it's always nice to have those sort of little things
Starting point is 01:46:10 but um speaking of background oh yeah i was about to say that about that's why my background now is actually interesting yeah you got a little bit of's that, um, one over your shoulder on, is that a Pokemon world map? One over which shoulder? The side that's not the world ends with you. Oh, that is a picture of the Kanto and Johto regions. Ah, I thought so. From Pokemon. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:39 I've also got, if I lean out of the way, you can see the X circle, square triangle behind the shelf. Oh. Little PlayStation signs. Kingdom Hearts 3048 Days, Persona 5, Neo The World Ends With You. And if you could lean over
Starting point is 01:46:53 that way, that is Dragon Quest 4. Ooh! Or sorry, Dragon Quest 5. Mm-mm. Is, uh, Y358, is that your favorite Kingdom Hearts game? Yes, that is the kingdom hearts game that got me into kingdom hearts oh wow that's all it wasn't the first one i played the first one i played was two on a friend's ps2 way back when and it was just the roxxus section
Starting point is 01:47:16 and then that game released i'm just like wait i think i played a game with this guy in it before and so i got the game and I just fell down the rabbit hole and played every single game after that. I'm so sad that 358, and Recoded as well, both never got proper remakes. I could live without Recoded, because Recoded was just one with blocks.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Yeah, but Recoded also, it had a great combat system. The story was fucking nonsense. I love, I love, uh, was it, um, Data Riku and Datasora? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, um,
Starting point is 01:47:56 358. ReCoded was a game that was a remake of a Japanese exclusive phone game called Coded. And we were like, no, we want that over here! And then we get it, and it adds nothing to the storyoded and we were like no we want that over here and then we get it and it adds nothing to the story and we're just like why did we want this again?
Starting point is 01:48:14 Coded Mobile yeah that existed and we're not talking like you know Android or anything like that it was oh my god what's it called And we're not talking like, you know, Android or anything like that. It was... No, it was like... Oh my god, what's it called? The Java OS, I think.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah, it was... Also, it was released in episodes on the phone. Oh my god, I didn't know about that part. NTT Docomo. What the fuck is that? Oh my god, I didn't know about that part. Um, NTT Docomo. What the fuck that is? I've never heard of that. Yeah, I have not either. Um,
Starting point is 01:48:55 but yeah, 358, I don't know why that never got a, um, a re-release. Because it was a DS game. Yeah, but it wasn't a DS game that made use of the DS. Dream Drop Distance was a 3DS game. True.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Yeah, there was no reason why they couldn't have. Yeah. Yeah. It would probably take more effort. The 3DS ones, they could upscale the models. Three, five, eight days, they would have to remake all the models. Honestly, I would take upscaled models, to be honest. I've played the game upscaled.
Starting point is 01:49:34 They don't look terrible. They just look very obviously that they are an upscaled model. Yeah, especially against the UI. Yeah. Oh, they'd have to redraw the UIi assets they're pixel art so it wouldn't it's not the worst they like look fine um yeah honestly i wish i could get the font they used the pixelized font in three five eight days i wish i could find that font yeah yeah it's probably like an in-house font it absolutely is But usually people have managed to recreate it
Starting point is 01:50:05 Like someone's recreated all the different Pokemon pixel fonts Oh That's cool Yeah no for a while I was using it In my terminal but Then I tried to do that I think I remember telling you about this I tried to do the terminal file browser
Starting point is 01:50:20 So I needed a nerd font that has the symbols And I found one I really like And I just haven't changed it since. For anyone who hasn't played 358, 358 was the story of Roxas when he was in the organization. Yeah, it takes place between
Starting point is 01:50:38 what is it? Recoded in 2? No, it takes place between 1 and two across the time of recoded. You mean re-chain of memories? Not recoded. Chain of memories. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:50:54 But without interacting with anything Sora does in Castle Oblivion because Roxas never goes there. Yeah, the only interaction you have with that is occasionally the people who are going to be your party members are like, oh, I'm going to Castle of Living, I'll be back in a week.
Starting point is 01:51:09 And they don't come back. And they don't come back in a week. Unless they're Axel. Yeah. Basically, everyone else just goes there and dies. But no, it's a really fun game. Because of that being one of the first Kingdom Hearts games I played, I didn't know how to pronounce anyone's name
Starting point is 01:51:26 until I heard them in cutscenes. Oh. Did that game not have any voiced cutscenes? It did. It was just very occasional. Ah, yeah. So there was stuff like, I never knew how to say Marluxia's name because I
Starting point is 01:51:46 never heard it in the game. I didn't know that until very recently as well. So I would say Marluzia. Marluxia. I think I went with Marluxia. Yeah, something like that. I didn't know that X-I makes a
Starting point is 01:52:02 she sound. Even though there a she sound. Apparently it does. Even though there's Shion. And they say Shion. And for some reason in my brain, I didn't put two and two together. X-I, X-I, same sound. Yeah, but when did you play this? Middle school.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Yeah, kids are stupid yeah i started kingdom hearts with the first game and then i didn't know that rechain of memories ever existed or chain of memories ever existed and i played the second game i think that's what most people did actually yeah no a lot of people did not know about that because they put chain of memories in the game boy advance i don't think reain came out until after 2. Yeah, ReChain came out after the fact because it was a remake of it. No, I know it came out after. I don't know if it came out after 2, though. Or before that came out.
Starting point is 01:52:55 I think it did. I feel like it had to come out before, didn't it? 2007 for ReChain. Kingdom Hearts. I think 2 came out in 2006. Yeah. That's probably why they did it. Because 2 was...
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah, 2005. 2 was probably a very popular game. And they were like, hey... People were just like, what the hell happened? Yeah. Well, it was a popular game and then they didn't release the direct sequel for fucking ages. They released these side sequels. Like, hey, you want to go play Dream Drop?
Starting point is 01:53:27 You want to go play Recoded? You want to go play... Dream Drop Distance was technically a direct sequel. I guess so. Yeah. No, it wasn't. Okay, yeah, it was a direct sequel. It follows basically right after 2.
Starting point is 01:53:41 And then 3 is right after that. Oh, there was also 0 0.2 a fragmentary passage the uh the aqua game oh the mobile game no that was the ps4 um oh that's right that was the beta test for three yeah yeah yeah oh my god and there was and then there was the giant prequel story of Kingdom Hearts She or Key or X they keep changing the name I fucking hate that game's now important
Starting point is 01:54:14 it's so important to the story now is it? yes I just watch the cutscenes and stuff well it introduces the master of masters who's now going to be he's in KH3 but he's going to be
Starting point is 01:54:30 a big focus in DeFore as well oh great so now you gotta go watch 18 hours of cutscenes to work out what's going on I love this game plus there's another mobile game coming out soon. No! No more mobile games!
Starting point is 01:54:53 I actually went back and watched the earliest trailer for Kingdom Hearts for Final Fantasy versus 13. And I didn't realize how much Kingdom Hearts for Final Fantasy 13 Final Fantasy vs. 13 and I didn't realize how much Noctis
Starting point is 01:55:10 inspired what's the secret boss in KH3? The Verum Rex guy? What's his name? Oh, I forgot his name. But I know who you're talking about. Y'saura. I did not realize got his name. But I know who you're talking about. Yuzora. I did not realize how fucking
Starting point is 01:55:29 similar Yuzora and his party is to Versus 13. I see why people say that Versus... that Verum Rex, whenever we eventually get a Verum Rex game, is basically going to be Nomura having a second shot at making Versus XIII. That will be nice, actually.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Honestly, if you put Kingdom Hearts 3's combat into Final Fantasy XV, it'd be an amazing game. That's what was originally going to happen in Versus XIII. That's what the game originally was. Yeah, it actually was that. It still had the, um, the weapon switching, but it was a lot more flowy like KH3 is.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Oh my god, that sounds so much better. But then it went through DevHell, and then we got- Why do you do this?! Then we got what 15 is. Because, like, um, Insomnia, that, like, the city that Noctis is from, that was supposed to have a big scene there
Starting point is 01:56:26 where you were fighting during the invasion. And instead we get a cutscene. Yeah, and I don't know... In the final DLC, the Arden DLC, you can actually jump across the buildings and teleport across the buildings and, like, use your, like, teleport across the buildings. That's what was going to happen in the original version of the game. You're going to be able to, like, scale skyscrapers with the teleport.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Oh, my God. That sounds so much better. Instead, warp to this ledge. Wait. Press square. Yup. Warp to this ledge. Wait, press square. Yup. Warp to this ledge. Wait, press square.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Yup, yup. So I hope... I know Nomura's... He said that he wants to do a Verum Rex game. He doesn't know how he's going to name it. But there will be a Verum Rex game that happens somewhat. Because now Sora is in Quadratum. So there has to be...
Starting point is 01:57:28 We got a fucking... We got a Roxas backstory. We got a BBS birth by sleep. Like, there's going to be a story for Zora, without a doubt. Whether it ends up being a full game like versus 13 was going to be or it's like hey here's a 10 hour experience whatever there's gonna be something i hope they let him do like a big full jlpg with it though that'll be that'll be awesome that would be the question is would it be considered a kingdom hearts game though
Starting point is 01:57:59 um does he want to make it even more convoluted i don't know i i'm so curious what happened with kh4 because now that sora's in the real world uh i just i don't know i don't know what they're doing anymore it's like okay we're gonna have disney world some square enix stuff we're in real life what yeah i don't know what that means i don't know what that what that means for the i know that there are like people have been highly speculating a marvel crossover and a oh your god no and a star wars crossover definitely is likely to happen Star Wars maybe but even then probably I would hope not
Starting point is 01:58:48 because there's going to be still crossovers but I don't know what else would you want to have I do not want to see Wolverine and Spider-Man alongside Sora it's already ridiculous enough as it is I want to see a
Starting point is 01:59:04 segment with that and I want to see a segment and I say that as a giant Spider-Man fan they just basically embed the Miles Morales game in Kingdom Hearts 4 okay you know what at that point I might actually be okay with that
Starting point is 01:59:22 they just straight up give him the web swinging mechanic I might actually be okay with that they just straight up give him the web swinging mechanic I might actually be okay with that that does sound fun there's so much there is so much that Disney owns at this point that I couldn't even begin to guess what franchises
Starting point is 01:59:40 they're actually going to just throw in because Kingdom Hearts has had crossover worlds for things that were long dead franchises yeah and then they cross over with some things that you just saw and went really that one are you sure about that like kingdom hearts 2 and Pirates of the Caribbean do you know what this means for KH4 because we're in the real world now it means we can't have an Atlantica world which is great
Starting point is 02:00:14 there are other musicals that Disney owns though so we're gonna have something jokes on you live action Little Mermaid wait we could have a live-action Aladdin. Just redo Kingdom Hearts One World, but just the live-action versions. Oh my god. The thing is, it's not out of the question is the worst part. Yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 02:00:44 I want a Cars world. Give me a Cars world. Give me Kingdom Hearts cart. I mean, Pixar's a thing in there now. We got Toy Story. Yeah, I want to see Sora driving around with Lightning McQueen. I'll fight the heartless! Why is my windshield wiper a keyblade?
Starting point is 02:01:12 Does Sora even know what a car is? Do cars exist in Sora's world? Oh, man. I imagine it's gonna- I don't know if you're gonna know about this. Do you know what Putt-Putt is? Putt-Putt. Like, Minigolf?
Starting point is 02:01:25 The video game. Oh, no. There was this game of children's educational games called Putt-Putt. Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo? Yeah, like Putt-Putt Saves the World, Saves the Zoo, Putt-Putt Travels Through Time. Right, right. And in it, the main character, Putt-Putt, who's a living car, has just this long mechanical wire that he uses like an arm. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:01:49 I'm just imagining that on the back of like a car's car swinging the key right around. Yeah. Oh, Lord. I loved those games. I loved those games I bought Pajama Sam on Steam because it was just like I had this as a kid I'm gonna buy it and play it
Starting point is 02:02:11 still holds up like the puzzles are still actively engaging this is like this was just a good point and click game I never really got into point and click games they were like I was very much into ps2 stuff at the time i like point and click games because of their just ease
Starting point is 02:02:33 of play they're a good game to relax to yeah yeah um they're definitely not something i'd want to like play on a stream or something like that i streamed uhajama Sam, Thunder and Lightning Aren't So Frightening when I first bought it because I was just like, NOSTALGIA! But the more I played it,
Starting point is 02:02:53 the more I realized, oh, I've forgotten how to solve a lot of these, and it's making me look dumb that I can't beat a game for six-year-olds. I think the closest thing to point and clicks i've experienced
Starting point is 02:03:06 is my mom used to be really into the hidden object games yeah it's like that only uh you have a story to go along with yeah yeah i've also been spoiled because one of my favorite things to watch uh usually around christmas time so coming up soon is Game Grumps. They will do the point and click adventure games. Like the storybook series and stuff. Ah yep yep. I don't know why I love these videos so much. When they do it.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Because they usually have some ridiculous element. And just hearing two friends laughing about these things. Is just the most entertaining thing. and just hearing two friends laughing about these things is just the most entertaining thing. It's not my thing, but hey, if you enjoy it, it's good for you. Have fun.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Well, we've just passed the two hour mark a couple of minutes ago. Yep, I just realized that as well. There was one more thing I wanted to go back on about back to the linux things oh yeah let's see we talked about waylon yes my amd issues yes what oh the steam deck that's what i wanted to bring up because i have a steam deck i've been using we didn't talk about that at all the whole time. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:04:27 No, we didn't. Because I've been playing that almost daily because I don't have time with work and having to do other stuff. I don't have the time to play games on my PC super often now. But Steam Deck, I can play it during downtime at work and it's amazing. other stuff i don't have the time to play games on my pc super often now um but steam deck i can play it during downtime at work and it's amazing uh i have gone through so many games that would have otherwise taken me months to get through and i just i love this thing this is something that
Starting point is 02:05:02 if games keep releasing in a way that they're being optimized in mind for the Steam Deck, I don't think I really will want to ever buy another console. Wow. Because as long as it can run the games,
Starting point is 02:05:20 it's the same experience. If I really want to play a console-like experience, I just load it up on my PC. Well, I think the only thing you'd want to avoid on the steam deck is something that very heavily favors a mouse, but I play most of my games with controllers anyway. Same here.
Starting point is 02:05:39 I played through all of, uh, and even some mouse centric stuff like the Danganronpa games. I played ultra despair girls, the third person shooter and donker up a V3, both on the steam deck. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Um, yeah, I just set, um, well, Danganronpa, the ultra despair girls was designed for controllers. Is there initially a console game?
Starting point is 02:06:01 Yeah. Yeah. Um, but V3, I just left a touch pad to be the, what's it called? The aim thingy that's in the center of the screen. Retinal.
Starting point is 02:06:18 I think that's what it's called. I just set that to be the touch pad and would use that. And I'd said either clicking the touchpad to be a and then the trigger to be like why depending on what i needed i've never actually played a dungarompa game it is weird it is weird and i love it i've watched the anime so at least have an a general idea of what it's about which anime anime? I watched the original one. And the sequel. Play the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:48 I heard the games are a lot better. Yeah, no, here's the thing. The full story of Danganronpa is Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc, the first game. Danganronpa 2. Danganronpa 3, the animation. The third part of the story is an anime. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:07:13 But it's technically two animes. Right. There's Future Arc and Despair Arc. And you watch Episode 1, Future Arc. Episode 1, Despair Arc. Episode 2, Future Arc. Episode 2, Despair Arc. despair arc and you watch episode one future arc episode one despair arc episode two future arc episode two despair arc on crunch roll they just already alternate it for you
Starting point is 02:07:30 so you just watch in order of that what's on crunch roll you're fine what are you saying then you watch through all of that and that is the end of that story right and then don garampa v three is the third game which is a new story
Starting point is 02:07:45 but is also still related to the previous ones okay this game's weird it sounds like it but I kind of love, oh wait also you play Danganronpa V3 Ultra Despair Girls and then the animation
Starting point is 02:08:04 Ultra Despair Girls is And then the animation. Ultra Despair Girls is a different type of game. It's a third person shooter. But it fills in some of the gaps. Mm-hmm. The whole series is bizarre and weird. And I love it. Because it's also made by the people who made another one of my favorite games. Which is Zero Escape.
Starting point is 02:08:25 That doesn't ring a bell. bit because it's also made by the people who made another one of my favorite games which is Zero Escape that doesn't ring a bell there's three games there's nine hours nine persons nine doors I forgot the name of the second game I'm drawing a blank what the second game is called
Starting point is 02:08:43 third game is Zero Time Deliver what is of what the second game is called. Third game is Zero Time Deliver. What is the second game? Why can I not remember this? Zero Escape 2. Virtue's Last Reward. Mm-hmm. Those are... Escape Room Puzzle Games. reward. Those are escape room puzzle
Starting point is 02:09:07 games. But with the story of the people who wrote stuff like Danganronpa and another series AI the Somnium Files. Hmm. Which is a game that just got a sequel and ported to Steam that I still need to play.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Oh my god, there's so many. Now you have a Steam deck. Yeah, no, but I also don't have the money to buy all these games. It's the real problem. Yeah, that's totally fair. If you play AI The Somnium Files, get it on PlayStation.
Starting point is 02:09:40 The Switch version has a lot of issues and that's what I played it on. I don't have a Switch, so that doesn't really matter to me. The PC version is also lot of issues And that's what I played it on I don't have a Switch so that doesn't Really matter to me The PC version is also kind of boring sometimes Ah okay yeah fair enough Sequel they fixed it though So I'm probably going to get the sequel on Steam Deck
Starting point is 02:09:56 But yeah no Deck's been amazing Absolutely love that thing If you want one bad enough i will literally send like be your drop ship person if you don't want to wait i kind of just want to see how long it takes them to get it to australia that's fair because it could be like it's like you know what fine drop ship it to me and then like a week later hey we're selling in australia fuck yeah yeah hey maybe when it comes out i'll do like a two year late review just for the memes We're selling it in Australia. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Hey, maybe when it comes out, I'll do like a two year late review just for the memes. If you do that, you have to title it the Steam Deck two years later. All right. So this is my first impressions of the Steam Deck. That's a fucking great title. I stole that from Beat Em Ups. And Scott DeWaz, actually. They both did retrospectives on the Switch. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:10:52 And they would name it, like, Nintendo Switch such and such years later. I'm just like, well, take that title, play it to the Steam Deck, but it's your first impression, just late. Valve, let me give you money. Honestly, actually, you'd probably have a better... I've heard nothing but good things about it. Rather than, actually, don't use me as a dropship, you'd be better off finding a
Starting point is 02:11:19 proxy service for something like what they use for Yahoo Options to get one from Japan. Yeah, yeah. Because that's a lot closer to you. That'd be a lot shorter shipping time yeah yeah yeah yeah um one day i'll have one but i hope you enjoy yours it's been great i did do something kind of weird I put stickers on all the buttons I got a sticker of an Xbox controller I cut out all the little button labels and stuck them on in the Nintendo layout
Starting point is 02:11:56 and then I put a little bit of UV resin over them so they wouldn't fade and then I go through every single game and remap the buttons to match the nintendo layout instead of the xbox layout because i hate the xbox layout I never grew up with an Xbox in any way. So if I see A, B, X, Y, my brain goes to Nintendo layout. Right, right, right, right. Out of muscle memory.
Starting point is 02:12:37 So seeing that, I'm fighting with 15 years worth of muscle memory if I see A and it's not the left button and it's instead the bottom button. Yep, yep, yep. But by doing it that way, luckily, almost every game on PC lets you remap the controls, so anything that gets weird when you flip them, you can change. Well, at worst, you could always just rebind it in the Steam input, whatever it's called.
Starting point is 02:12:57 But yeah, but that doesn't change the matching labels. Right, right, right, right. That's what I use. It's the Steam input remapper. Steam Deck has a weird thing. You can't set a universal profile. You can only remap on a per-game basis. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:11 And it doesn't use that remapping in the Steam UI. What? So even though I have set every single game to use left button A, bottom button B, in the Steam menu, it's still bottom button A, bottom button B. In the Steam menu, it's still bottom button A, left button B. Okay. Well, fix that. What are you doing? The Steam desktop client has had this since, like...
Starting point is 02:13:40 A decade ago, I think? Too complex. Too difficult. Can't do it. But no, not on the Steam Deck. Not on the Steam Deck. However, I do have a plug-in system because there's that for the Steam Deck
Starting point is 02:13:54 and you can add a thing that gives you Nintendo button prompts, so it doesn't change what the labels say. It just flips them. So instead of showing A a select B cancel, but it's reading the wrong buttons, it'll read the same bindings,
Starting point is 02:14:13 but in the little menus, they'll say like B select a is cancel. So it at least matches up. Yep. Yep. Even though it's still weird to have the bottom button be select, at least it's showing the right button. Right. Right. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:14:26 That makes sense. But the biggest issue I've seen was in games where you can't read map controls and they use the leftmost button as your attack button, which on Xbox controls would be X, the blue one. Yeah, yeah. On a Switch layout, when those get flipped. That means my attack button is the topmost button. Which is just weird.
Starting point is 02:14:54 Yeah, a little bit. Just a touch. I can deal with bottom attack, I can deal with left attack. But... I've only had one game where that's an issue, and that is a game I actually can't play anymore now on Linux. Which is Alice Madness Returns. Which is on EA Origin.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Right. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. I bought it on EA Origin, actually, because they removed it from Steam. And I think they've now added it back, but it still on EA Origin actually because they removed it from Steam and I think they've now added it back but it still opens EA Origin
Starting point is 02:15:28 or maybe it's their new EA app but yeah no EA does not give a flying shit about this stuff it was bad enough playing I played it was the the co-op game where you're
Starting point is 02:15:47 breaking out of a prison um on EA was that on EA? it was a realistic style game right? yeah yeah it goes to the EA launcher a way out?
Starting point is 02:16:00 a way out yes damn it I wanted to get that game because that game's super fun. It's on Steam, but it opens up the EA launch and... Ah! Yeah. Yeah. But it's apparently Steam Deck verified,
Starting point is 02:16:16 or Steam Deck playable, or whatever. Okay, well, if that's the case... Well, anyway, Luchas can't log into EA Origin anymore. Okay, maybe it's not playable anymore. Uh, they broke uh some back-end thing for getting logins you have to use a legacy which is considered insecure yep yep yep um and then when the maintainer of luchas told them it's like hey i maintain luchas that we use to play your games on linux by the way your recent update broke third party sign ins
Starting point is 02:16:45 just want to let you know because this could be considered a security issue we don't support Linux I'm closing this oh no it's like they weren't asking you to support it they just said hey I found out because I make a thing for running games on Linux
Starting point is 02:17:02 your thing's broken and needs to be fixed all they saw was the word Linux and just ignored everything else because I make a thing for running games on Linux. Your thing's broken and needs to be fixed. Well, it just... All they saw was the word Linux and just ignored everything else. It's not like they need to support it. Just don't actively not support it. It's like, just fix the thing that's broken
Starting point is 02:17:17 and is a security flaw for your network infrastructure. Nope, too hard. Not gonna happen. Oh, wanna know what's worse? What? i don't know if this is true yet but it there are screenshots of it ea or not ea bungie has made playing destiny 2 on the steam deck even worse yeah so uh gaming on linux posted about this some people are saying ah they've broken on the Deck. What seems to have happened is the new Steam Deck drivers
Starting point is 02:17:49 don't play nicely with the game. For Windows. Yeah, yeah. It's broken on Windows on the Steam Deck. Yeah, the new Steam Deck drivers don't play nicely with it. Yeah, but the thing is, the error message is what really pisses me off yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:18:07 the error message says destiny 2 is not supported on steam deck they went out of their way to put that error message in just to let you know. Yep. Go fuck yourself, Bungie. Ha ha! Uh. I do not understand why your job is to sell games to people and you would actively make it harder to play the game. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Because your game is free to play. You make money the more players are playing it. Why would you make it to where less people can play it? I don't know, man. I don't know. The message is this one right here. I found a picture of it.
Starting point is 02:18:58 So it says, Destiny 2. Destiny 2 is not currently supported on Steam Deck. And this is on the Windows install You can see from the hilariously ugly Status bar they have That's so dumb Not currently supported
Starting point is 02:19:14 Don't give us hope You're never going to support this It's on Windows as well That's the other dumb thing It's fucking on Windows There's no reason for this It's like yeah it's on Windows as well. That's the other dumb thing. It's just fucking on Windows. There's no reason for this. It's like, yeah, we don't support the Steam Deck, but I'm on Windows.
Starting point is 02:19:30 There are people using this as their only computer. I don't know why, but there are. I feel like that'd be a little weird. I feel like it'd be, I mean, if you hook it up and, like, mount it to the wall and plug in your keyboard and monitors and stuff and just left it there sure
Starting point is 02:19:49 but at that point why not just buy a laptop I don't know man yep people are dumb I mean I do like the fact that you can mount it that's cool it's really cool that you can mount it. That's cool. It's really cool that you can do it. It's just not my thing. It will definitely make streaming games from it a lot
Starting point is 02:20:09 easier. Absolutely. If you wanted to capture the games from it and say yeah, I'm running this on a Steam Deck while having a stream set up that you can actually do stuff with. Stream off of the Steam Deck. Use the Steam Deck as your capture PC. It'd be a
Starting point is 02:20:24 terrible experience. Well, if it's just capturing and streaming, maybe not. But yeah, no, I would love to hook it up to my capture card and just say like, hey, I'm running this off the Steam Deck. That would be pretty cool, actually. It would be really cool.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Try it out, see what happens. You can get a dock for 20 bucks. bucks yeah some of the docs out there actually really cool um the official doc is like 90 dollars that's rough yeah and then you get a third party one that's almost identical for like 20 i'm just like i'm just gonna get it have been available since the Steam Deck came out. Yeah. But I think that's the only other thing I wanted to bring up with Steam Deck stuff
Starting point is 02:21:10 because I feel like that was something that... I love Steam Deck. Well, hopefully by the time, you know, I next have you on the podcast, I actually have a Steam Deck. Do you want to play me with...
Starting point is 02:21:24 Do you want to play with me on your deck don't don't forget to clean your deck wait have you it's better with your accent actually um new zeal i'm gonna send you something new zealand deck ad what is this because in in new zealand it's pronounced as dick no all right i ran out of water while i did no no this is an ancient video i love it i think i've seen clips of this but never the whole thing oh my god accents are great oh it's great i love it yeah my god accents are great i was great i love it yeah i honestly i honestly wish i had an accent that wasn't where i live because i live in the american south and that accent is
Starting point is 02:22:34 associated with things i don't want to be associated with just make it super thick just go go all in with it Just make it super thick. Just go all in with it. No. No. I've literally actively tried to make myself not sound Southern my whole life. Well, I think it's pretty... It's a lot easier to do if you're talking to a lot of people online.
Starting point is 02:22:56 Like, my voice is... Like, when I was young, I had a really thick rural accent. But as you talk to... Especially as I talk to, especially especially as I talk to Americans it tends to even out a bit I was listening to Trash Taste and they were talking about how there was some
Starting point is 02:23:15 research facility in like Antarctica or something where a bunch of different people from all over the world were living together and they did a study on like which accent was going to stick around because the more you talk to people the more accents bled together uh guess what the one that went out was australian german oh german was the one everyone started to pick up on wow well yeah it's like that is not the one you would expect. Well, just speaking of trash taste, Connor used to have a really thick Wales accent.
Starting point is 02:23:47 Or Welsh accent. Yeah, no, absolutely. And now he just sounds like, you know, snobby British dude. I mean, he does do a lot of snobby British acting roles. Yeah, well, yeah, well, he got his start on YouTube with the Black Butler stuff, so... Yeah! Kind of screwed himself with that one. You see a video with his mom, and it's just like,
Starting point is 02:24:11 holy crap, these are, like, two completely different accents. If you want to see something that is really rough, go look at some of the old collabs with Connor and Yannis, like, from fucking eight plus years ago oh before nanners was a vtuber yeah but way before nanners was a vtuber oh because they've known each other since like the very early days of youtube i've known nanners existed but i never watched her videos i think i've seen maybe one video of her before she was a vtuber and that's it
Starting point is 02:24:52 one day you'll be around for that long why did we not go off on a vtuber tangent well i don't know we can save that for next time i guess we've got plenty of stuff to talk about because I'm sure I'll be back on sometime if I you know if it's not a year from now the question is just if either one of us remembers yeah well you know it might happen I don't know
Starting point is 02:25:18 I'll just be in your stream one day and it's like we should do the podcast again yeah we should and then we both immediately forget right after that that usually goes on. Yeah. Anyway, where can the people find you? You can find me on YouTube at youtube.com
Starting point is 02:25:33 slash at Rogue Wren, because YouTube has handles now. It does. Nice. On Mastodon at vt.social slash at Rogue Wren. VT.social. Yeah, not social. There's no L in there. VT dot social. Yeah, not social. There's no L in there. VT dot social.
Starting point is 02:25:48 VT dot social. VT dot social slash at Rogue Ren. Yes. And if for some reason you're still on Bird App, twitch.com slash itsrogren. Did you mention your Twitch? You're still using your Twitch?
Starting point is 02:26:05 I said Twitch. You did? I meant Twitter. I meant BirdApp. Twitter.com slash itsrogueren. No, no, no. I meant, are you actually still using your Twitch? Because I know you said you were going to stream on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:26:16 I think I am going to shift to YouTube when that video separation fully rolls out to all users. Right. Because every single one of these platforms video separation fully rolls out to all users. Because every single one of these platforms punishes you for linking off-site. If I do it on YouTube, I can keep my videos and my streams on the same site so they're encouraged
Starting point is 02:26:37 to go between each other. Fair enough. But if you want to follow my Twitch, twitch.tv slash itsrogren maybe I'll stream there again who knows just like I don't know some gorilla stream there sometime you're like I'm gonna push I don't care about streaming I'm just gonna not talk the entire time
Starting point is 02:26:54 yeah no I just want to dick around although twitch would actually be a very good tool for a workaround for Wayland if you use like the restreet thing you do and then just have your twitch window which is a set url to just pull up your chat every time so that you can have somewhere and just have it restream send to your twitch chat so you can read it
Starting point is 02:27:14 yeah yeah that's actually not a bad idea yeah that would work and then you could have that link open in something like chatty if you didn't want to use the twitch interface right yeah i just have it saved in my browser my twitch chat link yeah fair enough pop out one that you can just pop out into its own window yeah yeah yeah um is that all the platforms you want to mention i think that's all of them cool as for me the main channel is brody robertson i do linux videos there six times a week. I've got my gaming channel, Brody Robertson Plays, which I will eventually rebrand one day, possibly. Six times a week, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:27:53 Yeah, I bulk record stuff. So yeah, Brody Robertson Plays. I will be finished with The World Ends With You by the time that you guys see this. So I might be playing DMC2. I might be playing a Kingdom Hearts game i don't know uh i'm also playing through cult of the lamb and that's also going to be finished soon as well i don't know what's going to take its slot i'll work it out um i'll convince you to play some other random jrpg or something maybe i'll pick up dragon quest
Starting point is 02:28:22 11 i don't know. And if you're listening to the audio version of this, the video version is available on the YouTube. If you're watching the video version, the audio version is available wherever you can find podcasts. There's an RSS feed. Stick it in your favorite app and
Starting point is 02:28:39 you're good to go. What do you want to say Ren you can end off the show give me something oh I'm ending off the show I should say something profound you should but also I have the brain of a peanut
Starting point is 02:28:58 so um see you guys later

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