Tech Over Tea - Surely Microsoft Won't Be A Fan Of This | Solo

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good day, and good evening. I'm as always your host, Brodie Robertson, and I plan to record this maybe an hour ago, and then I got very distracted, reading some of the mess that's happening in Gnome right now. That is not what we're talking about today. If you are curious, there is this thread on Macedon.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You can find it. It's by someone called Nibhik, N-I-R-B-H-E-E-K at Hachyderm. and then on the forums there is a thread called board concerns on recent Macedon thread. They are probably I would say a good couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:00:41 maybe a month or so away from just splitting the project and the foundation. So go check that out. It's still evolving by the time this comes out. I don't know, maybe that's already happened. It certainly looked like it was going to happen. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:00:57 not what we're talking about today. How's everyone doing? Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. So, I've got a bunch of things to talk about. We're doing a solo episode as we have been doing the past couple of weeks. And I think where we'll start is, um, I saw this post the other day. Is this the one? Wait. Yeah, no, this is the one. This is the one. I thought it was a different post. Um, a modder has managed to get invidia Pascal GPUs running on 32-bit Windows XP with unofficial drivers. The modified drivers add support for cards like the GTX 1060, 1070, 1080, 1080, Titan XP, while also improving compatibility with modern monitors through better display port and HTML support.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Pascal never officially supported Windows XP, so this is entirely a community-made solution aimed mainly at retro PC enthusiasts. There is something similar to this also in the... ReactOS is the Windows one, yes? I always get, though... For some reason, my brain always confuses ReactOS. and Redox OS. Yes, ReactOS is the Windows one.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I want to talk to React OS guys a couple of months ago. They were working on supporting... I want to say... I want to say even newer cards than this. I feel... I'm not 100% certain, but I feel like... I feel like it was like modern RTX cards
Starting point is 00:02:19 they're working on supporting. But the reason why I want to talk about this is also because of another thing that's been going on. I forgot to get a link for this one. Let's see if I can find it. Uh, do do do do do do. Okay, I'm not going to be able to find it right now. Maybe on Twitter. If I look up Photoshop clone, why is Twitter probably a better search engine than an actual search engine? Yeah, here we go, here we go. So you've a bunch of projects like this coming out. This is something known as...
Starting point is 00:02:57 Did you post the name? This is something known as Compositor, and there's a bunch of these Photoshop clones being worked on, these AI-generated, in most cases, I think the same one, AI-generated Photoshop clones. And I saw this other post,
Starting point is 00:03:19 I don't have a link for it, I won't be to find it. Someone said, if you want to see change with AI regulation, this is how you do it. You don't go and like, oh, complain about stuff. Oh, I don't like this. I don't like that. No, the way you actually go and get the regulation changed
Starting point is 00:03:40 is you piss off the companies that have a lot of money. You piss off Adobe. You piss off Microsoft. You piss off Invidia. You piss off all of these companies that are actually going to go and do something. I am genuinely surprised that Disney, and he hasn't gone and said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:58 This is a problem. You know what? Maybe having people, you know, getting Mickey Mouse smoking a blunt and writing goofy, writing in whichever way you feel like thinking about it. Maybe that's something we don't want our IP associate with. Apparently, they just don't care. Apparently, that's not been enough to cause any sort of regulation change.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Same with all of the governments around the, world that have been using various, uh, various IP, whether it be Pokemon or Lego or was Disney used at one point? I don't remember, but a bunch of other, a bunch of other big IP being used in like government propaganda videos, AI generated government propaganda videos. They've all been fucking silent. Maybe there's been like a post here and they were like, we do not appreciate the usage of our IP in this sort of way. But like no sort of big lawsuit, nothing like that. Nothing that's actually going to, like, really cause any sort of big change. So maybe there's, like, maybe holding out hope for doing it with something like Photoshop is not going to actually change anything.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I don't know. I don't know. But it's the only thing in my mind that could possibly, that could possibly do something. Maybe not even just like a, a clone of it. Maybe some sort of, some sort of 365 crack. Oh, that's office. Creative Cloud? Creative Cloud, that's the Adobe one. Creative Cloud, yes, yes. Some sort of creative cloud authentication server clone
Starting point is 00:05:40 that's like really easy to install. If you did something like that, I could imagine that would probably piss off Adobe and I would assume would be enough to maybe do some sort of, right? I don't know. I don't know. It's like the first thing in my mind that feels like it could do anything, but at the same time, I don't think anything's going to change just because these companies are heavily relying on these tools as well, and I don't think they want to see anything change because we don't know entirely what they might be doing internally. However, considering what we have publicly available in the just before frontier models, If you compare that to what's actually going to be available at these big companies that are getting early access to whatever the big model happens to be at the time, and probably every single other big model around, like if you're Adobe, you have access to every single possible thing you could ever possibly want.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I would assume they are very heavily making use of this internally as well, and probably, you know, maybe crossing a couple of. of our IP barriers they probably shouldn't be crossing. Not saying anything for certain. However, when you can't publicly see the source code, I would not be surprised if anything of the sort may be going on. Honestly, like my opinion, my like general stance and opinion on AI has gradually shifted over time. I still would like to be in a world. where we don't have AI that is capable of generating high quality code. However, that's the world we live in, right? Like, I don't like where we are, but the reality of the situation is this is where we are.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And a lot of the, like, entry, a lot of the, like, junior level development stuff, a lot of things outside of development are just going to be entirely eliminated and, in many ways, have already been eliminated from a lot of companies. But when it comes to like a research tool, I was very iffy on what it was capable of doing. And early on, it definitely was a mess. And right now, if you use the free, like, I will say the like free model built into a search engine, like the what you get when you just search on Google is garbage, right? It's kind of similar to AI generated subtitles on YouTube, right?
Starting point is 00:08:26 these subtitles generated when you upload a video to YouTube are god-awful. And the reason why they got awful is one, you're not paying for them. And two, it needs to supply a shitload of other people that are also not paying for them. So you end up having this like really low-tier but high availability model. Something that you know is always going to work, but it is never going to work well. And that's the result when you search, you know, just a, no, some fucking random question on Google, on Bing, whatever search engine you happen to be using that has an AI result built into it.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But if you try any of like the paid models, like just basically any of the, any of the semi-recent models, yes, there are differences in like the verbosity, verbosity, verbosity. Vibosity of what they write.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Things like GROC, for example, are very fucking wordy, unless you tell it not to be wordy. Claude is a bit different, open AI does different things. All of these things like do slightly, and different harnesses work differently in slightly different ways as well. All of these things might be slightly different, but the actual result is surprisingly good.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And like it's, it's something again that I would prefer to live in a world where this doesn't exist. I would like to live in a world where this is not something that every single person just immediately has access to. But that's the world we live in. And I want to go on a little rant, like I've been doing past couple of times
Starting point is 00:10:13 about, oh, you need to update your opinion on these models, anything like that. But like, again, I do think you need to do that. You want to be critical of this. And I don't know, man, I don't know. I will say for some of the I've said before I do, like when I do my videos
Starting point is 00:10:34 I usually use it as like a last check thing especially if I do one of like the big research videos I'll do my regular research and then but like yo AI did I miss anything and usually I didn't miss anything usually I found like anything it's relevant maybe it's like a one off point here and there it's like hey here's this article from 27 years ago
Starting point is 00:10:52 that you managed to miss is like okay cool but learning something new. Like learning, if you want to like mess around with electronics, if you just have like a basic question, like, what is a diode, what is a use for a diode, or if you want to look at like Australian
Starting point is 00:11:05 Australian electrical work, like, oh, what is the what is TPS? That is, um, thermoplastic shielding. Um, I think it's what the, uh, TPS is what does it sense for? TPS, cable.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Or is it not, is it thermoplastic? Tough plastic Tough plastic sheet That's the one Yeah Yeah I was like What is what is like
Starting point is 00:11:34 A difference between like an RCD and NEMS? Like these are things where You can find the answer Relatively easily like this And generally for these sort of basic questions It's when you're getting into this sort of More complicated research questions When it's like
Starting point is 00:11:51 Oh well here is a study Interpret this study And find the results for what whatever the thing, like if it's some like basic core concept, generally it's just going to be able to find it. And most of the time, I have noticed a couple of things here and there, especially when it comes to like a regulation change that may not be in the dataset. I have noticed a couple of things here and there where it does miss something. But you can just be like, hey, here's this thing it missed. Like, oh yeah, I did miss that. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But again, I don't want to live in this world. But if we're going to be in this world, I'm going to live in this world. Right? If this is the world we're going to be in, I'm going to live in the world. I'm going to make advantage, take advantage of what I have available to me in the ways that I feel like are providing value. I don't like the idea of using these tools as a way to replace.
Starting point is 00:12:55 your thinking, but as a way to, basically as a thing to bounce ideas against, right? Like, oh, what, like, if, you know, you're talking about, like, what is the, the neutral line of a, of electrical setup do? It's like, oh, okay, it does this thing. Okay, so then you reword and it's like, hey, okay, so it does, it does this thing, then it's like, yes, it does that thing and explains it further, right? It's sort of like this, this shooter that is sometimes a little bit wrong, that you can bounce ideas against. Again, for higher-level, complex research tasks, I don't know. I know for some things, there have been researchers
Starting point is 00:13:35 that are getting a little bit annoyed when OpenAI or any of these other big companies just so happened to publish research that they were working on that nobody else had touched before, just so happened to publish that just before the researcher was about to do so, just so happens to do so
Starting point is 00:13:57 just complete co-winky-dink don't worry about it they did not steal the data definitely not so I'm sure in case like that yeah you know you're gonna have your problems but I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:13 I know there's I know there's definitely been skills that have been experimenting with that model not as something that is going to answer everyone your question or answer not something that is going to replace your thinking, but sort of take some workload
Starting point is 00:14:31 off of the teacher, because this is a problem that exists with pretty much most classrooms. In Australia, it's normal to have a class that is anywhere from like 25 to 30 students, maybe a couple more, maybe like 35 students on the high end. And that's really difficult for one, one, one per, maybe I need to one person to manage teaching 35 people, right? The optimal way to teach someone is individualized learning. And the closer you can get to that, the better the results you're going to get. Now, there are some exceptions where people are used to teaching large groups,
Starting point is 00:15:14 but even then, it's still valuable to have individualized learning. Like a coach for a sports team is generally quite good at handling. teaching a large group. And I think part of that is the fact that when you're teaching a sport, you're teaching everyone the same techniques. So it basically is like rote memorization and then your body is adapting to that movement
Starting point is 00:15:46 in the way that your body naturally is going to produce the most powerful. But when it comes to education, it's not just rote learning. It's a complex thinking operation and different people in the class are going to learn at different speeds. So what ends up happening is either you operate at the speed of the slowest member and then the slowest member, maybe, you know, they're doing fine. But then anyone above that who is, you know, mid-tier or above that is suddenly not really learning anything. And if they're not sort of dedicated to learn by themselves, they're going to end up feeling really bored.
Starting point is 00:16:25 if you said it at a higher tier like mid or top of the class, suddenly everyone below that point is not able to keep up with the work and those people now just fall further and further and further behind. And this is not the fault of any single teacher. This is the fault of there's just not enough classes, right? There's two big classes with two few teachers because that's just the model that we've used for teaching. And I do think there is
Starting point is 00:16:55 There is a place there For supplementing That education model With a tutor that can provide Work and answer questions But not tell you the answer Sort of provide a way to
Starting point is 00:17:14 Bounce things back and forth with That you're just not going to be able to do Scalably you're not going to be at a scale through a regular teaching model. I do think anything like that's going to take a long time to really bring into any sort of school. It's definitely being tested in smaller education settings and private education settings, but as like a general thing in public school, I think it's going to take quite a while,
Starting point is 00:17:46 it's going to take a lot of proving that that model can actually work, that are the results are better? Are the results better? Are they worse? Are people learning faster? Are people actually performing at grade level? Are people actually getting something out of this? Or are they just effectively producing the exact same results, but at a higher cost, right? Because that's all you're getting. Where, let's say it actually doesn't work and all you're doing is just getting the same results as a wide classroom teaching. What is the point of the AI when it always? you're doing then is paying more money for the same results. And in some cases, doing more work because you're going to have to actually like make sure the IT department has the AI working and the AI is not working. Someone has to go on check. And it ends up actually being worse if it is not something that can actually produce real results in the people that need the real results. So no, I'm curious to see, I can say from my personal experience that,
Starting point is 00:18:56 I can make this work for me, but I also know if I was in school, how I would behave around this, because, look, look, I would, you know what you're like in school. I know what I was like in school. We all know that if given the opportunity to not work, you're certainly going to find ways to, find ways to not work if you are, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if, you, if, you. you can do so. So I don't think you're going to have a situation where you just don't have a teacher in a class. I think you need someone there to be, you know, the guardian, the monitor of these people. Because I knew plenty of people in my primary school, in my high school, especially, who would, you know, one of them, look, I don't know if you still watching the podcast. I know one of them may possibly be listening to this
Starting point is 00:19:58 who would get into fights in the classroom. Like not, oh, you know, coming into the classroom and the fights. No, no, no. Just like chatting with a may. And it's not even a real fight. It's just a play fight, throwing each other over desks, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You know, stupid bullshit you do at a school where you don't want to be at school and, you know, you want to do some stupid shit. people would kick in windows, you know, other fun things like that. So you definitely need people there to make sure, especially the rabble rouses, we shall call them, are not doing too much rousing over the rabble. But for a education context, I think maybe some of that would change if you actually had people more engaged. I think that is a problem a lot of people have at school.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And it's a problem that I had with a lot of my teachers as well. You can probably think of a handful of teachers who you felt like actually wanted to be a teacher. You felt like actually were a good teacher and you didn't just learn the material. You actually felt like you got educated, right? because those are different things. It is one thing to wrote, memorize,
Starting point is 00:21:24 and maybe memorize a formula that you may need in mathematics and other little things like that. Like, wrote memorization isn't that difficult. It's just, you can do rope memorization with flashcards, right? It's not a complex problem. But actually being educated on a topic, knowing how to take the thing you learned, and then modify that, apply that to different contexts,
Starting point is 00:21:50 and oh, well, what's a good example? Actually, you know what? Algebraic transposition, so rearranging a formula, you can rote-memorize just, okay, well, if I want to do multiplication, I have multiplication on this side, you've got to do division, I want to do addition, go subtract, all this good stuff. But then you start getting into, okay, well, how do I? apply that to more complex formulas? How do I apply that the formulas where maybe I've not seen it and
Starting point is 00:22:21 sort of also short-cutting things? Like going back to the electrical stuff, Oms Law, for example, VIR, so V-I-R, so voltage equals I-R, so voltage equals amperage times resistance. You can then rearrange that formula to calculate the resistance or calculate the amperage. And when you actually understand how to do algebraic transposition, especially something that simple. You can just do in your head. Like, you don't even have to think about like, oh, VIR, so okay, well, I want, let's say I want I.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So that would be R equals VI. It's like, you just have that in your head. You don't even really need to think about it because it's that simple of an idea, and it's a concept that you've actually learned about. And I had a couple of teachers that were like this. I reckon, so... I had one teacher in primary school that was like this.
Starting point is 00:23:19 My homeroom teacher, who I think also did... English? Yeah, yeah, my English teacher. She also did various other things. She'd been at school for like 30 plus years. My older half-sister had also been taught by the same person. She's like 15 years... 15 years older than me?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Something like that. Quite a bit older than me. That was a class where I actually felt... like I was engaged with the class, not just, oh, here's the material, do the material, but a teacher that felt like they actually wanted to be there and wanted to help people. I also had a really good science teacher in high school, and I also had a really good math teacher in high school. Now, the math teacher, didn't like my sister.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Maybe he liked my sister. My sister didn't like him, because he would constantly compare her to me. But you can think of these teachers who always are going to stand out in your life. Now, I didn't have anyone in uni like that. Yes, yes, in university, Wolfgang. Yes, Wolfgang, my AI teacher, and he did various other classes. Genuinely, incredible lecturer. Someone who really understood material and understood how to teach it.
Starting point is 00:24:50 he was also a kind of a no bullshit teacher. I think for a lot of the teachers I had that were really good it was the no bullshit teachers and part of that is due to the fact that some of the schools I went to
Starting point is 00:25:06 were not in the nicest of areas. So having a teacher that's kind of a pushover, you're going to have a class that is, again, ruled by the rabble rouses we shall say there was quite a few of the rabble rouses. I was friends with the rabble rousers, but nonetheless,
Starting point is 00:25:24 you kind of need someone who is there who is just like, you're going to do this work, I'm going to teach you the work, you're going to learn the work, and that is the relationship we're going to have here. I'm not your friend, this is not, you're not at home right now, I'm not your dad, you're going to do this work, and you're going to shut up. I do remember having a teacher in high school. Was he a teacher?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, no, he was a teacher, who, I don't know how he still had a job, but he was someone who I feel like he wished that corporal punishment had not been removed he's one of those people who was like he was a teacher when it was allowed and now has to resort to methods that probably now would actually get him fired
Starting point is 00:26:11 his favorite phrase was calling again the rabble rouses oxygen thieves Oxygen Thieves is a phrase that I will never forget It is such a fucking good insult Basically, just so we're on the same page here Basically saying that some of these people are so fucking useless That they shouldn't be breathing and then breathing
Starting point is 00:26:39 Is stealing oxygen from people that deserve it more than them What a guy that was I don't know if he's still employed I feel like it was getting pretty old so probably retired by now, but genuinely, genuinely an amazing, amazing person to be around. It's always like the no bullshit people that I feel like, I feel like we're the best. Because I did have plenty of teachers that were kind of, they would let bullshit go on and they would try things and they would be quiet people. And like, eventually they would snap and no one would pay attention to them.
Starting point is 00:27:18 they'd be like, be quiet! And he would like, blah blah blah blah and just go back to talking because they, like, if it's someone who is never angry and is never, there's never any discipline when they actually try to do it,
Starting point is 00:27:36 you have one of two situations. One is they eventually snap and people do listen because this person is actually serious or two, you know that nothing is actually going to happen and everything sort of just like goes back to the way it already was
Starting point is 00:27:55 because you know there's nothing actually really serious here. I had a lot of the nothing actually really serious here. Plenty of those teachers. And I get it right, especially for like the younger teachers. I had plenty of teachers who were like in there. Oh, especially I had a, I had a, a teacher in year 12 who was probably
Starting point is 00:28:24 no older than like 22 or 23 but he was also a shorter guy and he was also he looked like he could probably pass being in year 12 himself right he was one of those guys were into his early 20s he really didn't look like he was in his early 20s and
Starting point is 00:28:46 in the class that he taught. It was a great class. He was one of my other math teachers. And by that point, I think he was teaching the top math class. And, you know, when you filter out the bottom percentile, you're generally going to get a better class anyway. Usually the people that make it to the top class are not the people that are like causing problems. But anytime he had to like fill in for another teacher, holy shit. Holy shit would that be a absolute cluster fuck of a class. People that were in his classes, they'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Anyone else who wasn't? Well, they became new rabble-rousers, and it would just be a fucking mess. Absolute fucking mess, man. Sometimes it's nice to reminisce on high school. It is kind of funny when people say that, like, high school or university is the best time of your life. It's much worse when someone says high school is the best time of your life. If high school is the best time of your life, if you peaked in high school, I feel so sad for you, right?
Starting point is 00:29:57 I genuinely, genuinely feel sad for you that your life gets no better. Nothing good happens in your life before the first quarter is even over. And even same like university. University is the best time of your life. And I can see why people say that because you're an adult so likely you have adult money and you're around friends all the time and it's a time when you can go on party and stuff but I was never really into that
Starting point is 00:30:28 so I kind of just do what I do now back in uni as well but I don't know I think your life you know life can't obviously improve constantly and some days are going to be worse than others but to think that you know nothing ever improves later in your life is genuinely, genuinely insane.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And I feel so bad for anyone who that is the life they live. And then at the same time, I hear from people who are older who are like, oh, your 40s are the best time of your life, or your 50s are the best time of your life, because, you know, you're probably mid to late into your career then. Maybe you have a house. Maybe you have a house. You've probably got a partner.
Starting point is 00:31:18 maybe you've got kids and if you have kids, maybe those kids are adult kids now, so you've sort of gone through that part of your life. I don't know, I'm 28, so I don't have that problem right now. I do know people that had kids at like 19, though, and like, I know people that had kids much younger than that. I know someone who had a kid. I think 16?
Starting point is 00:31:40 I think 16 is probably the youngest that comes to mind. But I'm at... Maybe you shouldn't imagine this. Imagine having a kid at 16, right? And then your kid has a kid at 16. You'd be, like, you could be a grandparent at, like, mid-30s. And then that kid has a kid at that, when they're, like, 16. So you could be, like, a great-grandparent in, like, your late 40s, early 50s.
Starting point is 00:32:22 This is, like, a crazy idea, but also is, it's not actually that crazy if you look, historically. Like if you look historically where people actually did have kids when they were like 18 or so, it wouldn't be unreasonable to, you know, be a grandparent into your like early 50s. Now though, people don't have kids till, you know, I'm 28 as I said. I don't have a, I don't have a partner right. I don't have kids. If I'm going to have kids, probably not going to until my 30s and that, you know, that's a, that's a problem for future Brody with our future Brody problems. And I'm not going to think about that one right now. We got very sidetracked. That wasn't even one of the topics I was going to talk about. We just went down a
Starting point is 00:33:01 tangent and, you know, that's how we got there. Anyway, speaking of getting there and tangents, Ratchen and Clank, Quest for Booty running on a jail-broken PS5 Pro through RPCS-3, still kind of ridiculous seeing PS3 emulation running like this on actual PlayStation hardware. Now, obviously, this is one the less demanding PS3 games. If you want something that's like, also I think it's, yeah, it is upscaled. So it's not running at PS3 Res. This is running at, so PS3 Rose was 720P. This is running at 4K.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So this is actually more demanding than actually would be otherwise. But like this is less, one of the less demanding PS3 games. Sorry, if you want something actually demanding, like, I don't know, fucking, um, MGS 4, right? MGS4 is PS3, yes? Yeah, yeah. Right, like MGS4 would probably cook it. But even so, PS3 emulation is really hard. This is running it at 4k, and this is running at a solid 60 FPS. Most games are not MGS 4. The point here is there's not really a good excuse if fans and modders can do this. for Sony not to do this themselves. Besides them not wanting to do so, right?
Starting point is 00:34:35 On a technical basis, there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to insert a PS3 disc into a PS5 and play the PS3 game. There is no reason whatsoever why that shouldn't be possible. Instead, you know what? you know what you get instead?
Starting point is 00:35:00 PlayStation 5. PS3 Classics. Wow. Don't you love... Okay, this is all PS1 games. Where's our PS3 stuff? Here you go. The era of PlayStation 3 might not feel retro yet,
Starting point is 00:35:24 but it paved the way for a range of modern icons. Actually, these are remasters. That's not actually... Uh... I know there are definitely some PS3 games that have been released... I've been re-released on PSR, PS5. There is... There is no reason, though.
Starting point is 00:35:43 They're like... There is... There is functionally no reason? Actually, streaming. Streaming is what they do, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is, again, there is functionally no reason. If home brewers can do this,
Starting point is 00:35:58 why Sony couldn't do this themselves, outside of just simply not wanting to do so. And if they did it, it actually would be a pretty damn good reason to buy a PS5. Being able to go and play your older PS3 games, now, you know, your PS3 game became pretty old and, you know, it might be, might die at some point. Like, this would be a reason. Because I, my PS4, as I've said before, my PS5, my PS5, my PS5 is a PS4. It is a PS4 emulator. There's basically the entire function it has and nothing else. That is the only thing it does.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And yes, the cell architecture is stupid and a mess and no one likes it. But if people can get it done with homebrew, there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be possible with a company that actually has the docks. Better yet, they could just use the homebrew. But they're not going to. They're not going to do it all. Because why would they? Why would they do that? Because then you'd, uh...
Starting point is 00:37:09 then you'd get something nice. And Sony wouldn't do that. Sony, Sony definitely wouldn't do that. Absolutely not. We love Sony. Speaking of loving Sony. Bloodbourne! So, you might have heard about the Shad PS4 stuff a while ago.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Shad PS4 is a PS4 emulator, and one of the games they were getting working early on was Bloodbourne. And I believe the game's fully playable now, no issue. Shad, PS4, Bloodbourne. Is it fine? Are there any issues? I know it was working last year, so I don't actually know the state it is in now.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Bloodborn. Okay, it is not set to playable yet. It is set to in-game. So there's likely still some sort of issues with the game that I am unaware of. Either way, though, because we have that, Bloodbourne got a native PC port and is now running on Linux, which is not at all what happened. It is basically a modified version of Shad PS4 that is running Bloodbourne. 30, 60 and 90 FPS support?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Does Bloodbourne have any... physics issues because I know all the Dark Souls games did. Dark Souls 3 if you ran above I think if you ran above 30 you would sometimes fall through the floor if you
Starting point is 00:38:50 got on a ladder or you slid down a ladder. Volker rendering FSR 3.1 4 and 4.11 Gamepad support, working audio this is already something with Shabby is 4. Save support, Steam Deck support around 90 FPS 4K, reportedly run
Starting point is 00:39:05 on a 7800 XT. When it comes to doing emulation, generally the CPU is more of a concern. It's more of a concern, especially on the PS3. I'm not 100% concerned about the PS4, but I would assume the CPU is probably still a pretty big deal there. It's just less of a big deal because, you know, again, the cell architecture was really stupid. and it should never have been made
Starting point is 00:39:38 because it was really fucking stupid. But, you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. It is cool that projects like this are being worked on, though. Like the KH. Days melon mix, that's the one. So I think this is the repo? Yeah, yeah. So, Melon Mix is a modified version of Melon DS for both 365 over two days and Kingdom Hearts recoded.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Both of those games were built around the DS, Melendias, the DS emulator. As such, you can play them on PC. You can absolutely play them an emulator. It's fine. They have some problems. Problem number one is it used the bottom screen for important UI elements. So you can't just disable the bottom screen. You've got to have both screens visible, and it's kind of unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Also, because you're on the DS, there were certain limitations with the way the camera worked. It was controlled with the fucking shoulder buttons like older Kingdom Hearts games were, which is fine, because I played Older Kingdom Hearts games. I played Kingdom Hearts one originally released. So it's fine, but it's a less pleasant way to do it. So basically it remaps that. the movement to the stick, makes various other changes
Starting point is 00:41:09 that make it a... also it upscales the game massively because the DS, the native DS resolution was really low. DS Native resolution is 256 by 192 which is
Starting point is 00:41:29 honestly way lower than I would think. But then I remember the DS had a really small screen. But the thing is, a lot of those models were actually surprisingly good looking if you just bump up the internal resolution. Some of these DS games actually look really, really good, the 3D ones specifically, but were limited simply just by the resolution the game could actually be rendered at. So if you render it higher, it looks pretty good. So, um, honestly, projects like this is just, it's actually just cool. It is actually just really cool being able to play these games in a way that was never possible.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Now, I'm not really sure about this blood-borne one, but Melon Mix was started well, well pre-AI. What about this? Is this, where's the link to the repo? That's not the repo. That's a different one. Is this the repo? Yes, this is a repo. Now, for anyone who cares, yes, it does use AI. Yes. Like every fucking project does.
Starting point is 00:42:52 But if that's a concern for you, there you go. My nose is kind of block right now. I'm trying not to like sniffle into the mic, but, you know, we're seeing how that goes. Um, yeah, this uses, it uses Claude. Like all of the game decont projects that are going on and all this stuff, all of the, um, all of the merging two game together mods or there was actually a recent one where it actually was its own actual, like an actual real mod, bringing the Spider-Man swing physics into GTA-5, which was really cool. Not played either game. Yes, I've not played GTA-5, I might have said that before, but saying it here again. Yeah, I've not played a, I've not played GTA 5. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I do have it though. I think I got it for free at some point many, many years ago. I don't remember why. I think it was just like a, I think it was just a random giveaway or something. Maybe it was in a humble bundle. I have it though. And I've had it for years. So for some reason, I got the game.
Starting point is 00:44:12 What reason? I don't know. If anyone can go back and find a free-to-keep weekend for GTA-5, let me know about that, and that's probably when I got it. Speaking of things I got, something I was going to talk about last week. I didn't do it then. I got my Steam controller. You might be able to see the box.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Actually, can you see the box? Ooh? Where is the box? Yeah, there it is. Up in the corner there. Yeah, actually you could see it anyway. It's slightly behind... Oh no, it just sits on my head. I got my Steam controller. I have been using this since I got it, so past couple of weeks now,
Starting point is 00:44:57 played a couple of games with it mostly been playing trails because that's mostly what I've been playing right now. But... I have some general thoughts on it. I have some issues with it, but overall I think it is a solid, good controller. Now, do I think it is better than my go-to controller? That's the wrong one. Where is the controller?
Starting point is 00:45:28 The 8-bit dough. Do I think it is a better controller than the 8-bit dough? Now, I don't really care. This is going to be purely my opinion. I don't really care about a bunch of the extra bullshy. features that both of these controllers have. They both have back buttons. The Steam controller has four of them.
Starting point is 00:45:48 The 8-bit dough has two of them. This also has a R4 and an L4, so it has extra buttons on the back here. You can light up the front. I immediately turned all the lights off because I don't like them. There's various other things you can configure as well. This has like a different mode you can run it. And I just run them both wired. Do I think it's a better controller?
Starting point is 00:46:11 I'm gonna go What I will say is if you like heavier controllers this is definitely a heavier and maybe arguably more rigid feeling I don't really care I usually just like
Starting point is 00:46:30 I put the armrest down and have the controller just sitting on my legs that's not really a concern for me neither of them is like so heavy that it becomes uncomfortable one thing I will say I do like about the 8bit dough is this does have trigger stops. That is not a thing on the Steam Controller. So, for the good of this, I wasn't really sure how I would feel about the double topstick.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Now, I have used double top stick on the Steam deck, but I legitimately am not a big fan of the... actual controller part of the Steam deck. They fixed that on here. So the Steam deck, it has like solid vertical lines for the sides. This angles it out like an actual controller, which makes it far, far more comfortable for me to hold. So that fixes a major problem I have. A problem that people have pointed out in the past is the screw holes, they're sharp plastic. They didn't round them. That's not, actually, this doesn't even have screw holes. Do we have something else here that has screw holes. Do you have some? Do I have another controller here with screw holes? I should. No, it's another PS5 controller. Um,
Starting point is 00:47:46 let's one with screw holes. Okay. I had a controller that had screw holes. A lot of other controllers, they will round, they will like round where the screws are. Actually, I guess the trigger stops also kind of count. So it like kind of rounds it to like make it less sharp. This is just straight like sharp plastic and it will, like it's not gonna cut you. But if you rub your hand along it, it is going to feel really weird and really, really, really awkward. I will say, I do think the... I do think the R1, L2, R1, L2 are a little bit squishy. It kind of feels like...
Starting point is 00:48:36 The L1 and R1 kind of feel like they are analog buttons with how squishy they are, but they are digital. So, you can, like, push... It feels like you can push them in, and then it's, like, not that satisfying of a click. That's just not a thing with this. Maybe you can hear that.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I would say, um, the Aper Doe is... Probably a little worse in that regard than the PS5 controller, but basically, like, basically around the same. Um, and I do feel like the... the L1 and L2 and R2 are a little bit too light and I do find myself accidentally pressing them, which on trails is annoying because R2 is how you speed up the game. So I have to make sure I don't lean my finger on that because it is very sensitive, right? Like if it slightly moves that it is going to activate, it is just really light.
Starting point is 00:49:39 If I was them, I would make it a little bit heavier and keep it as sensitive. As for the sticks themselves, I think they're a little bit... Yeah, they are a little... Are they small? Okay, maybe not. They do also have a bit of a sort of sharpish ridge on the actual stick. But it's fine. I think overall the sticks are...
Starting point is 00:50:09 The sticks are totally serviceable. Frankly, there isn't a controller nowadays that has, like, bad feeling sticks. I will say that the PS5 controller doesn't have the fancy sticks that don't drift, neither do the Xbox controller, this and the 8-bit don't do. It doesn't really affect the feel,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but it is going to affect the longevity. The D-pad, it's fine. Like, my go-to best D-pad is it's always going to be a PlayStation controller. PlayStation's always, Sony's always just done better D-Pads than either Microsoft or
Starting point is 00:50:50 8 Beddow is done here or um we have with the Steam controller Nintendo is generally better but of those options it's fine again it's not offensive it is not the 360 D pad which was legitimately bad as for the face buttons
Starting point is 00:51:09 they're a little bit less clicky than I'd like but they're fine if again a lot of a lot of my opinion on the Steam controller is it is fine It's not phenomenal, it's not amazing. Would I run out and buy it for any of that stuff? Probably not, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Now, I've not really heavily used the track pads. That's just not something I have really cared too much about. On the Steam deck, it was fine. Of the little, I've used them. It's not something... I know that you can game with them and you can play... like mouse-driven games with them, I just don't game from a couch, right?
Starting point is 00:51:59 If I game from a couch and I wanted to play... Well, that's the thing, right? There are so few situations that I would game from a couch and then want to play a keyboard and mouse game. Anything I would play from a couch, I would be playing with a controller, right? and most of my gaming is with a controller nowadays. The only exception being like path of exile and like enter the gungeon.
Starting point is 00:52:36 That's pretty much it. Anything else, basically like shooters. And I don't really play shooters anymore. Anything else I'm going to play with a controller. So, or a wheel if I'm racing game, you know, stuff like that. So for me, that is just not a selling point. I know, especially with the original scene controller, they were like showing off,
Starting point is 00:53:02 you can play like sieve and other stuff like that. And like, it's cool. Don't get me wrong. But at the same time, it is just not a thing that I personally do. It is not a thing that I care about because I just don't play those games. But overall, it is, actual controller feel is great
Starting point is 00:53:29 I do still think like best controller feel PS5. For my hands PS5 controller is the best feeling controller actually holding it. Second best second best controller feel
Starting point is 00:53:55 is a close mix between or close tie between the 8 bit dough and the steam controller. The Xbox controller I have down here as well. It's fine. It's like, it's,
Starting point is 00:54:11 it's not offensive. It's not bad. It's just kind of fine. Every time I hold the Xbox controller, I kind of just wish I was holding the 8-bit dough controller. Like, I think the angle on the Xbox controller is just a bit too aggressive. But it's fine, right?
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's... Again, I keep saying it's fine. But I've got all these options for controllers here. And I pretty much, for the most part, just stick with my 8-bit dough now and my Steam controller. And... Oh, I turned it on. And sometimes, I guess, the PS5 controller, but I think... One of these has a stick drift on them, and I've not replaced the stick.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So I've not used this in a bit. But, you know... it is what it is. Would I say if you have a perfectly good controller to go out and buy a Steam controller? If you really want the track pads, if you really want the track pads, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But besides that, like, it's just, it's just not something that's really... If I didn't buy every controller I liked the look of, I probably wouldn't buy a Steam controller. I would be happy with my 8-bit dough
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's good. I like it. I know some people out there are like, oh, but the ape-do feels cheap. Don't care. I like the api-doh controller. The, what is it? The ultimate, the ultimate two wireless? Yeah, that's the one. I think they actually made a follow-up to the ultimate. I feel like there's like an ultimate three or something. I've not checked it out. No, that's a different thing. Three mode products. Maybe this isn't... I feel like I heard something about it. I don't know if it got released or something.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Home... Their website is just... It's just a wall of products. I thought there was a new... Yeah, the Ultimate 3. Yeah, yeah, they did make one. 8-bit Do. Ultimate 3 Control.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I don't know what's different about the Ultimate 3. Ooh. Ew, ooh. Wait. Is that specifically that variant or all variants of the Ultimate 3 have that really shitty D-pad? Because I might just not buy... They changed... It looks like they might have changed the D-pad to the really...
Starting point is 00:57:05 Maybe it's fine... But it has the circle D-pad of the Xbox controller, which makes me slightly consistent. Circle D-pads are a little bit iffy. Let me see. Yeah, I think that actually might be the D-pad they use on that. I would like to get a feel for it. Because that's always been a problem.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It's not as much a problem now with the Xbox control. Like, the, uh, it was a real bad problem on the 360. But nowadays it's kind of... kind of okay. I still, I'm still not a fan of Circle D-Pads. Maybe it's just the fact that I had such a bad experience with them
Starting point is 00:57:54 back on the 360. Did the original Xbox have a circle D-pad? I know 360 did. Original Xbox controller. Yeah, the original Xbox had a circle D-pad. It was really bad back then.
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's fine on the on the latest one. Because it's a circle D pad, but it has like hard digital buttons as well. So like immediately, like you can... You can actually hear it, right? That was not the case in the old ones. The old ones, it was like really mushy.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Like really, really, really mushy. And yeah, it immediately turned me off. But ultimately, Stig Patrol, solid controller. Not going to change the world. It's not as radically crazy as the... original Steam Controller. But, it's a pretty good controller.
Starting point is 00:58:56 What's the actual price? I remember how much I paid for it. Steam controller. Assuming you can actually buy one. That's the other thing. 150 Australian, or you can get one today bought from a scalper
Starting point is 00:59:11 for 350 Australian. Don't pay that. Don't do that at all. Bad idea. Just, um... Just... just wait for it. compared to the
Starting point is 00:59:28 8 bit okay what is the how much is the ultimate 2C wireless go for um Australia you can get the lower tier
Starting point is 00:59:44 model of the 8 bit dough for like $40 right um the higher tier the ultimate 2 for $90
Starting point is 00:59:57 What about 3E? What does the 3E go for? Okay, the 3E is $280. Okay, okay. So if you're willing to go for like the lower tier 8 bit dough controller, it's about half the price. Is that worth it to you? Or do you like the little dongle thing?
Starting point is 01:00:28 And I would have said like if you have, a steam machine, it would make sense because you can like immediately, you can like easily pair it with and all this good stuff. I don't have a steam machine. So for me, that's not a big deal. I don't know if anything special about pairing it with the steam deck. I know the steam deck obviously doesn't have the puck built in, but I don't know if there's anything like additional special about doing it with a steam deck. I've not actually checked that. So I'm not, um, I'm not entirely sure. Yeah. Either way, it's pretty good. On the top of with gaming. Let's move slightly
Starting point is 01:01:07 away from gaming. Something, uh, kind of gaming, um, just a funny kind of article I saw. Germany targets power hungry PC gamers. Germany's SWK offers
Starting point is 01:01:24 a gaming, a gamer-focused electricity plan with a higher base fee, targeting households using more than 25 kilowatt hours per year. A German an electricity company is leaning into the gaming branding with a new marketing strategy that targets PC gamers with power hungry PCs. I don't know how you have the money for a power
Starting point is 01:01:46 hungry PC because I don't know anyone who's buying like a 5090 anymore. SWK Energy has backed the strategy called mine gaming, which explicitly targets gamers, streamers and households with high electricity consumption. The website features categories for casualers, pro-gamerers and gaming households that feature multiple PCs or gaming systems. The pricing model is straightforward. Customers pay a higher fixed base fee in exchange for a lower price per kilo hour. That trade-off can make sense for households consuming substantial amounts of electricity, although whether it actually saves money depends on the specific quote and alternatives available. SWK says the offering becomes particularly attractive above 2,500 kilowatts annually,
Starting point is 01:02:29 referring to total household consumption rather than the gaming PC alone. Despite the name, customers don't actually need to be gamers to sign up. As the company FQ says, the deal would still work for smart homes, households with electric vehicles, or excessive electricity consumption. So if you are, like, you know, doing multiple hour roasts every day, because the oven is going to use considerably more electricity than, unless you're doing like fucking Bitcoin mining out of your house, which if you're in Germany, you're not doing Bitcoin mining out of your house,
Starting point is 01:03:01 you're not making any money doing this. that. So if you are doing like heavy roasts or I don't know, you're running, I guess maybe not in Germany, running the air conditioner on all the time, wouldn't do that. No, definitely wouldn't do that. But like heavy roasts or other stuff like that, maybe you somehow have the money to have multiple 50-90 gaming machines in your house. Don't know where you got the money from. But if you somehow happen to have that, if you have, especially multiple, let's have. vehicles and it's maybe like you're let's say you're doing a lot of driving every day so every day you're doing a heavy heavy charge maybe that it would make sense i don't know but i kind of just
Starting point is 01:03:47 like the idea of a of a of gaming electricity like we have gaming marketing for everything else and nothing about this is specifically about gaming gaming is just one use case that might happen to be using quite a lot of, uh, quite a lot of electricity. But there's nothing specific about gaming with what is being done here. It is just, oh, you happen to use a lot of electricity. You'll, you might benefit from this. I don't know if the math checks out. I'm not actually like looked at the numbers to see if it does make sense. My guess is it probably doesn't for most people. But maybe there is
Starting point is 01:04:33 some way some way to justify it. I don't know. Eh. God damn it. I wonder how many people are still watching at this point, considering how much of the episode so far has been
Starting point is 01:04:53 gaming or semi-gaming adjacent. Sometimes these episodes do well. Sometimes they don't. Oftentimes people just kind of like, kind of just like vanish out as things go on. It's like, oh, it's back gaming. But considering the opening was the AI opening, who knows? Who knows? Maybe he'll are still actively listening. If you're actively listening right now, post in the comments. Leg. There's going to be a zero comment saying leg, but if you'll hear, leg. Anyway, Since we are still on gaming, let's go to a gaming adjacent thing, but is still kind of sucky for people outside of gaming as well. Assuming this is real, Valoran player claims to have inherited hardware ban through a secondhand CPU, riot antichite boss disputes parts of the story. So the claim is that somebody bought a secondhand CPU. and that CPU had been hardware banned and when they had bought it, it was already hardware banned.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So they put it into their system and turns out they were already hardware banned because that hardware's already been banned. Riot Energy Head, Philip Koskenass asserts the company's hardware bans last four months and cannot infect other components when insert. it into a new system. But if you have one of the... Okay, so the other claim was also then if he swapped it out to another
Starting point is 01:06:37 CPU, it wouldn't... That hardware had now also been banned because it was associated with a banned CPU. Again, I don't know if this is real. This is not
Starting point is 01:06:53 something that is impossible to do, though. Especially with, like, the, the level of access that Riot has to your machine, that these kernel level antechate actually have on your system. It is not impossible to do that. The question is, the question isn't whether or not it can be done. The question is whether or not it has been done. And also, if it has been done, what are the implications of that being done, right?
Starting point is 01:07:21 We already have a lot of annoying bullshit that is not as bad. For example, you have bullshit like, oh, well, you're playing this DRM game on Linux. Oh, you're swapping different versions of proton. Those different versions of proton are considered to be separate machines. This has been a real problem that people have actually had to deal with I brought up the example before But back when Persona 5 Strikers came out It had a problem where I think it was like rendering issues or something
Starting point is 01:08:06 And people were trying at different versions of Proton I think it was maybe three or four versions within 24 hours ban Ban from a single player game because it thought you were trying to install it on too many machines It was like nope Nope, nope no normal person would do this Uh, ban. Ban, ban, ban, ban. So it ended up taking maybe like a week to fix this problem because everybody that had issues just continually kept getting banned from the game. Now there's no reason why it should be like that, especially if you're running DRM like that.
Starting point is 01:08:44 You can very easily tell that you're running in a wine environment. Wine doesn't do any like sandboxing or anything special. It's really fucking obvious if you're running DRIM like, you can very easily tell that you're running in a wine environment. Wine doesn't do any like sandboxing or anything special. It's really fucking obvious if you can, you're running in a wine environment. It's just the fact that it wasn't doing anything to check that it was running in a wine environment. So, you know, you know, fun times, fun times, man. I hate the world we live in with, with like the state of modern games, right? I, I, like, there's so few games that I actually get excited for anymore, because it's just like, Firstly, there's so much fucking garbage that comes out. Games that like...
Starting point is 01:09:32 There's been very few times that a game I've been excited for has been garbage. It's always been something where it's like, you see it months ahead, you look at the trailers, and you're like, this is going to be bad, right? No one who... No one who saw Concord coming along was like, yeah, Concord's gonna be good, or Wolverine. Wolverine's going to be good
Starting point is 01:09:57 or fucking any of these other big games that come out this is going to be good because it's really obvious it's real like it's so fucking obvious that these games are going to be terrible but nobody nobody in the chain of command seems to acknowledge that it is fucking terrible
Starting point is 01:10:18 nobody wants to take responsibility for a giant L because a lot of cases you know Concord how much of a failure was Concord. How much did Concord cost to make? 400 million to make and shut down the studio after two weeks. But Concord was also being set up as this like big multimedia franchise, which is something that was never going to happen. And anyone who looked at that game should have been able to say, this game was not going to make any fucking money.
Starting point is 01:11:01 This is why I'm so happy to just sit around and play, like, play through the Trail Series, right? I'm playing through Trails to Azure. It's great. I played through the trails into the Sky Series. It was great. And, like, yeah, there are games that I'm definitely excited for that I want to play. I want to play Kingdom Hearts 4 when it comes out.
Starting point is 01:11:21 You know what? That's a game I was slightly. disappointed. Kingdom Hearts 3 was... It was okay. It was all right. It was probably the... probably the weakest
Starting point is 01:11:41 Kingdom Hearts game gameplay wise. I know some people really like some of the Remind stuff and I'm sure the Remind stuff was great, but like actual story... Well, actual story and actual gameplay part of the story. It wasn't... It was really not very good.
Starting point is 01:12:01 It was not terrible, right? Like, don't get it wrong. I wasn't terrible, but it does make me a little bit apprehensive for Kingdom Hearts 4. But, you know, maybe, I can hope. Then we have Strangen Than Heaven coming out. That is, I think...
Starting point is 01:12:16 I think Strangeline's like January, isn't it? Stranger than Heaven. than heaven. Do we know when it's coming out? Yeah. January 15th, 2027. I am very, very excited for that one. But besides that, it's like, I have this backlog of games that I want to go back and play. I was playing MGS4 on stream. And you know what? Phominal, phenomenal game. I love MGS 4. So good. MGS 3. So fucking good. I kind of want to go back and play the original medieval game. games. I don't know. Just try it out. See what they were like. I want to go and play Resident Evil at some point. I never played
Starting point is 01:13:00 Resident Evil. Like there are so many old games I've never played. I don't need to care of modern games suck, right? Like, why would I care of modern games suck if I have a couple hundred games in my Steam library that I've just never played? I don't
Starting point is 01:13:18 need to care. I can just go play the older games and you know what? They're going to be as good as they were. back when they came out, because that's what, you know, outside of games get patched to be worse. For example, the PC release of GTA games that have had songs removed, stuff like that, but you know it's just revert back to a little patch.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Or, you know, mod stuff back in. But I don't need to care if modern games suck. I can just play games. Just play old games. Because at the end of the day, right, I think the problem a lot of people have with older games is they approach them with a... They approached them with the wrong mindset.
Starting point is 01:13:59 They approached them, especially like gameplay design elements. There are certain things where a old game, it was just not normal to do. For example, auto-saving. Auto-saving was a thing, but there were some PS2 games to auto-save, but it was very rare, very, very rare. Sometimes you had like save-stating during rooms, so it wouldn't save if you quit the game, but it would save for the purposes of a death. Like, that wasn't uncommon.
Starting point is 01:14:35 It wasn't always go back to the previous save file. Metal Gear, for example, does this. Or Metal Gear, Solid. I don't know what Metal Gear, but Metal Gear Solid does this. Or it's just like, you know, people look at an old cutscene, and, like, you know, you go look at FS7, right? The original FS7, it is a... technical Marvel for what it released on, and if you approach it with the mindset of,
Starting point is 01:15:05 I am playing a PS1 game right now, I'm going to look at this in the lens of a PS1 game, you're going to have a phenomenal experience, and I love FF7. If you approach it with, oh my God, this game looks terrible, why does it look so bad? Yeah, it's going to look bad because it's, it is not a modern game. Now, there are games, and actually parts of FF7 do hold up graphically. Yes, the backgrounds are very low-res, but art direction-wise, FF7 is still a gorgeous game. Absolutely gorgeous game. Generally, it is either games that are intended to be low-poly, and that is like the design choice they went with,
Starting point is 01:15:50 or games which were pixel art, which always are going to hold up, right? Like if you go back and... Maybe original Pokemon. But if you go back and play like Emerald, for example. Emerald's still a beautiful game. Heart Gone Sol Server on the DS still beautiful games, right? Trails in the sky. Trails in the sky is a fucking gorgeous game.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Yes, there are some weird design choices with how they handle some of the graphics. Gorgeous game, though. Gorgeous, gorgeous game, and especially gorgeous music. Music is one of those ones which really... Really doesn't age. Like, at all. Good, well-designed art direction is not gonna age, and good music is not gonna age.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yes, sound fonts are going to be lower quality or lower, um, how would you say, lower diversity than what you have with modern music production. But if you hear a song that is amazing, that was like from a fucking game in the 80s, like you know what, go back and listen to the music in the original release of East 1. It's still good. It's still great. And East 1, East One was 89
Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah Now Don't get me wrong The modern A modern The re-I guess The remade Not really modern
Starting point is 01:17:36 Now the game can't fucking I think it was a PSP game or video The remade East One music is also Really really really really good Really really really really really good Don't get me wrong Do not
Starting point is 01:17:49 Do not get it twisted However, the original music is still pretty good. I do think the remake's better, though. I don't know anyone who actually goes back and plays the original East One, because the East One remake is like one-to-one the same game, except every boss is ten times harder. Like, the final boss in East One is notoriously, like, one of the hardest bosses ever fucking design.
Starting point is 01:18:26 partially due to the fact that if you played on PC, there is a bug in the game where the higher the frame rate, the faster he attacks, which makes the fight on nightmare at a high frame rate, technically possible, but you're probably not going to do it. It's been done. There are speed runs of it. The fight lasts like 30 seconds, but also you're going to die in like 30 seconds if you do if you, if you don't. Don't do it properly. It's just pure. It's, it is not a fight that I, maybe Taz wise, but for a human is not a fight that is possible to do no hit. On lower difficulties you can, but on higher difficulties, I don't think it is possible for a person to no hit it. Unless I'm mistaken, maybe there's someone out there who's, uh, crazy enough to do it.
Starting point is 01:19:24 But you know, it's most likely going to be the speed runner known as Taz. Speaking about Taz stuff, it is funny when people think that, like, Taz is a, is like a speed runner. It's people who don't know that a Taz is a tool-assisted speed run. Like, oh my God, this, this Taz runner is so good. Or better yet, when people think a Taz run is cheating, like, this is a specific category, specific category of speed run. Like, yes, it is cheating. That's the point of the run. That is literally the function.
Starting point is 01:19:57 The point is to show with the strategies that exist, what is the theoretically fastest a game can be played? And oftentimes Tazruns sort of indicate that maybe there was something wrong with a strat or indicate a way to more optimally do a strat and all this good stuff. Is there a... No, I thought it was a fray in the wire. I know it was just a... just a random bug or something, I don't know. Um, yeah. This is a really gaming focused episode, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:20:30 I knew it would be. I didn't think it would be this much, though. Uh, I guess since we're still doing it and, yeah, we're here. Uh, let me, let me show you something. So, this is not Marvel rivals. Even though graphically, it really might look like Marvel rivals. So, there is a game coming out. Um, right?
Starting point is 01:20:55 now called Project Comet. It is being labeled, um, funny, very funny to use Wolverine there. It is being labeled, um, Marvel Genshin. And you know what? It's going to come out. And it is going to be probably insanely popular. Because China is the only country that actually knows how to make a superhero game that makes you actually feel like a superhero outside of, of Insomniacs Spider-Man. I don't know why it's so hard for so many companies to actually make a superhero game
Starting point is 01:21:35 where you actually feel cool and feel like a superhero, but, you know, there you go. There's your fun, gotcha, mobile game control stuff. Maybe Spider-Man's the only one that's not going to feel as good as something like Marvel rivals
Starting point is 01:21:47 just because, you know, making Spider-Man actually play like Spider-Man will probably be a bit much when it comes to, like, the movement. I don't know. Maybe they're going to go all in with it and like, just do the whole Marvel rivals thing.
Starting point is 01:21:57 where you actually do feel like Spider-Man. You can swing around the map and you can just like throw people. Spider-Man players, I hate them. I, I, of the many reasons I stopped playing Marvel rivals, uh, me getting absolutely skill-diffed by Spider-Man players who ruin all of my time.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Um, that was pretty high up on the reasons why I, uh, stopped playing the game. Yeah. But you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. I had to stop for a sec because I forgot what time it was
Starting point is 01:22:38 and I remember I had to go about at 6. It is 4.30 right now and I hadn't had any food. So... Didn't forget to leave on time this time. This won't happen when I get distracted looking at Gnome bullshit. I don't know what's going on with them, man. I look, I don't know. Um, anyway, the Marvel Genshin thing.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I don't play these sort of games, right? I don't really play these free to play. Like, I, yes, there are free to play games I play, but I don't play any of them that have anything in them that you can buy that legitimately gives you power. Now, arguably, you can in POE because there are things you can buy to help yourself not get a seizure from playing the game. But outside of those things, there's nothing you can buy because there are effects in POE where it's like, what are we doing here? And it's fine when you play at like campaign speeds or early mapping. But as soon as you start getting into late mapping, end game gear, like anything that creates an effect on the screen,
Starting point is 01:23:56 it's going to end up becoming a problem. PUE2 is even worse for this because PUE2 has a lot of. like screen shake effects and ground shake effects and you know becomes something where I legitimately cannot look at the screen at like with a high enough level build let alone things that there's no way to fix like flicker strike flicker strike you teleport around the screen and that's just always going to be insanely fucking disorientating however people like the build um bit much for me. I like builds where I can see the floor so I can see if something's trying to kill me.
Starting point is 01:24:37 But, you know, that's just me. Honestly, like, Pee-Wee's a fun game. I just, I just, I just, right now, can't justify getting into the seasonal model. And that's like, that's kind of my problem with a lot of, games like Marvel rivals as well. Like, the seasonal model, I just don't play games consistently enough for that to, like, make sense for you. Especially right now, I'm gaming even less than I was before. I'm spending quite a bit of time doing some other stuff. I just don't have the time to play a seasonal game. And if I'm going to play a seasonal game, I want to do all the content in the season.
Starting point is 01:25:13 And then it's like, I just don't have time for that. And sometimes the content's shit. And it's like, okay, well, then, you know, or it's like, oh, well, I actually really like this character. This, I really like this season. I want to keep going. We know the season's ending and I have more stuff I want to do. Yeah. I like experiences where I can kind of just.
Starting point is 01:25:32 got my own pace and it's not really a big deal. Like, you know, Monster, for example. Yes, there's going to be title patches. There's going to be these, like, big monster drops and, oh, wow, everyone's excited for the new monster and you can, like, get your new gear and all this stuff. But, like, it doesn't actually affect anything. The game doesn't have PDP. You can play it our own pace.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Yes, if you're not at the content the day it comes out, people are going to know how to do it already, and you're going to end up, like, getting, people are going to end up, like, getting you through it faster, and maybe you're not going to have the same experience. But you can always just do that content solo in the game. like Monster Hunter because the game is intended to be soloable for the entire thing, with the exception of a couple of bosses that are intended to be like raid bosses, but that's like two or three of them, not really the general thing. And that's like more my pace.
Starting point is 01:26:19 That's more my pace, because I can just enjoy things at the rate I want to go. And also, I can play other games. Because that was a problem I used to have when I played Roonscape. If you're paying for a membership, it kind of feels like you always, you always want to be playing the game. Otherwise, are you really getting the most out of it? Like, you kind of got to play the game every single day because, well, if I'm not playing it today, then look at the money that's going away, look at the time I'm not spending on the game. And it ends up starting to feel less like a game and more like a chore you have to do,
Starting point is 01:26:56 more like something where you log in every day. It's the same thing that's a problem with like Duolingo, right? Especially a game that has a login bonus. This is a nice thing about Monster's login bonus. It is going to stack up over a couple of days, so you only need to log in every couple of days to get it. But even then, the login bonus is basically just, oh, you get a ticket where you can get double rewards, right? Which is nice, and it does speed things up.
Starting point is 01:27:20 But this is also not like the end of the world if you don't get it, especially if you're going to play for a bit that day. Yes, double the rewards for one hunt is nice, but also, unless you happen to double on a, on a rare item, like your plate farming for whatever reason, it's not really the end of the world. It's like, when a game has a daily reward system, and that daily reward system is something that feels like you need it,
Starting point is 01:27:50 otherwise the game doesn't function, then it becomes a problem. Like, when you have a daily reward system as a free-to-play player on a gutcha game, oftentimes that's going to be your gems or your upgrade material or some other thing where if you're not logging in that day, it is actually just going to slow down how much progression you can make. I don't like games where the game is against you. I don't like games where it feels like the game is designed to extract as much money as possible from me. That's why even though the game does look pretty neat, I don't really have any interest in playing Aon 2. Like, yes, it looks cool, the character creator looks great, all this good stuff, but it's a Korean MMO. And if you've ever played a Korean MMO, you would know exactly what Korean MMOs are like.
Starting point is 01:28:52 the answer is how much money can they extract from you and how much can they do it before you end up quitting the game and the answer is for me I'm not going to play that game I'm not going to get involved with that
Starting point is 01:29:10 because I'm happy to I will buy cosmetics in POE because I feel like POE is doing something good I don't I don't like, especially I don't like buying cosmetics in a game where it's already paid. And this is a problem that a lot of JRPs have. A lot of JRPGs, it's like, hey, so you get costumes in the game, but hey, you want this other cool costume, and it's a single player game.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Hey, you want this cool costume? Oh, you can buy the costume set for these characters, and I'm like, no, no, if I really want them, I'm sure someone has mortared them into the game, because that's what PC played. do, but you know, I'm just, I'm not in, I'm not in the mood for value extraction. Now, there are some games like Monster, where it does have some things you can buy, but they just don't really matter that much. Like, DMC the same thing. Like, you can buy red orbs in DMC, but you're going to get pretty much all the red orbs you need from one play-through. And then if you do a second play-through, you're going to get especially all the red
Starting point is 01:30:25 orbs you need. So it's like, it doesn't really serve a function unless you want to start speed running immediately. Mons under Wilds also has some shit you can buy as well. They did remove the character, the character vouchers. Thank fucking God, because they suck. Um, okay, I do actually have the DLC, because I bought the enhanced edition, whatever, when it was like $10 more expensive. Okay, that's all Camp gear
Starting point is 01:31:01 gestures. Couldn't you get some items, or did they remove that? I thought you could get some items. Maybe that's a separate bundle. Oh, wait, is this the one? Top sellers. Okay, I thought you could buy
Starting point is 01:31:29 I thought you could buy some like random crafting items. I vaguely remember that being a thing that people talked about. Is that not a thing anymore? Was it not a thing already? I thought it was. Because I remember this being a drama. MH Wild's pay to win. I thought there was something you could buy,
Starting point is 01:32:04 but it was like, it was the normal Capcom thing where, yes you can buy it but you can get it in the game within like five minutes it's like one of those things where yes it's there and yes it's stupid that it's there but it didn't really matter but I might be misremembering maybe it wasn't wilds someone let me know if they happen to happen to know which one it was I thought it was wilds though I don't know I don't know not important not at all important.
Starting point is 01:32:40 But something that is important. What is something that is important? What do I have here? Oh, yeah, I've got a video coming out about this. Did you know that Flat Hub unbanded AI? Apparently, they just decided to no longer have AI banned within the project. So back in May, I'll find the link, go out of my Discord.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Back in May, they introduced an AI policy where basically they said, just no AI whatsoever. And people were like, wow, guys, great, look, no AI whatsoever. Okay. Oh, there we go, much better. And then, in September, they were like, you know what? Nah, get rid of that policy. So they went from no AI whatsoever to now basically responsible disclosure and maintainers, whenever they feel like it can just get rid of someone
Starting point is 01:33:39 if they do not agree with whatever their usage of AI is. The reason why they did this initially was because they were getting just absolutely inundated with tons and tons of projects and pretty much just didn't have the reviewer time to actually spend on the problem. And understandably, they wanted to do something. But then a bunch of problems were raised from various different avenues. Apparently there was someone in Gnome Circle who wanted to submit an application to Gnome Circle,
Starting point is 01:34:11 and Gnome Circle bans AI, and FlatHub also bans AI, and there's some drama within Gnome Circle about whether AI should be banned within Gnome Circle. So I'm not sure which app caused that. The app actually wasn't listed, but there is some drama going on there around, you know, what should be allowed. Some people from UBlue raised some issues, because I know that, pretty old George Castro is not anti-AIDS, Um, probably some other people are not anti-AI and we're raising concern and some of the people raise concerns like, oh well if Flat Hub does this, they're going to basically like policy
Starting point is 01:34:48 themselves into a relevance because Flat Hub is an application store. Flat Hub isn't making applications. Maybe there's a Flat Hub application, but Flat Hub is a store for developers to use and Flat Hub isn't the only Flatpack store. Like, someone can make their own flat pack still, there's no reason why you can't do that. It just right now happens to be the biggest one. And if they say no AI applications, and let's say 90%, not even like 90% of just random garbage applications, but 90% of real actual useful applications have some AI code to some extent. And you say no AI code whatsoever, no AI documentation, nothing AI, that is going to, basically policy yourself into a relevance. Because even just basic things like every browser has AI code,
Starting point is 01:35:41 every future browser is going to have AI code. A bunch of random KDE applications have AI code in them. KDE does not have a policy banning AI. There's some people in KDE who are kind of open to using it, so there's going to be applications in KDE that at least have like a little bit of AI code. Then you have projects like Lutris, which openly use AI. They do have a, they did have an additional policy basically saying,
Starting point is 01:36:03 well-maintained applications could use it, like legacy applications could use it, anything had been around for a while was not going to be removed, but then that basically created the two-tier system where people who were on the store could effectively do whatever they wanted with AI, but people who weren't on the store,
Starting point is 01:36:20 they were barred from it. So it just created this weird system where it was just going to lead to more drama than it was worth by doing it in this weird two-tis-to-tisdom, two-system, two-system, two-system, like unfair way. So what they're doing now is basically saying no AI for discussion on the repo. So you can't use AI as the thing that is communicating to the reviewers, which is fair. No one wants to talk to your chat bot. You can't go and generate the manifest, the metadata file for the flat pack. That's also not allowed. But if it comes to the AI,
Starting point is 01:37:03 a code for the AI writing the code, that is fine. Also, you can't automate the creation of a submission on FlatHub. So you can't go and get an agent to go and do that for you. That will basically result in a ban. Effectively, again, no one wants to talk to your chatbot. If you want the AI to explain to you how to do it, that is okay. Because when it comes to research, discussion, debugging, those don't need to be disclosed. Basically, if it is being used in the actual project and the project actually contains AI generated results, they want it to be disclosed.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And honestly, again, this is in, as I've been saying with so many other projects, this is basically in line with what the kernel is doing. A responsible usage, responsible disclosure, but is not something where, you know, every second of every day people have to be dealing with the output of a system. that is not their system to deal with. And I wouldn't expect anyone to deal with somebody else's AI. What the AI should be used for is, if you're going to use it in your pipeline, use it in your pipeline and then filter down to something you understand and you can actually communicate with the reviewers. Because otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Nobody wants to deal with your chatbot. Nobody wants to deal with someone who doesn't understand the code they're trying to submit. Nobody wants to deal with a project, especially that is going to be abandoned after, like, a day. And that's the other thing they were trying to stop. There were a lot of projects being submitted to Flat Hub where they were just not being maintained. Not even just not being maintained, they were just abandoned. And it's one thing if it's an old application that was abandoned, like that makes sense, right? Using Flat Hub as a way to keep old applications alive, I think is fine. But when it comes to something that has existed for three days, it has zero users. And, and
Starting point is 01:39:00 and you just threw it up on Flat Hub. It has five commits, and then it doesn't get another commit ever. Like, it's not a legacy application. It's not something people actually rely on. It's just a random thing that you just generated, and you threw up on the store, because you thought that was a good way to get some attention for the application. And Flat Hub didn't really want to be the dumping ground for any of these projects.
Starting point is 01:39:25 And you know what? I get it. I get it. And this wasn't even just a theoretical. Someone actually did a look at all of the AI generated repos. There was about 120 of them. 88 of them had been abandoned after six months. 88 of them.
Starting point is 01:39:45 That's a problem. That is a problem. Because unless you're going to have the AI just constantly trying to work on it, if you've abandoned the application, there's no one to keep it going. If you don't have a user base, you don't have developers. Like, who's going to work on the project? No one, because no one cares about it. You don't even care about it yourself.
Starting point is 01:40:05 You already moved on to the next thing. You don't even use it yourself. So whilst it might be slightly annoying that this is the route that things ended up having to go, again, AI is going to exist and you can't just pretend put your head in the sand that it's not a thing that exists. You're going to have to make a policy that works around what you want your goals to be. Do you want the goal to be allowing AI code? Do you want the goal to be limiting what the reviewers have to deal with? Like, this is why some projects are actually going and saying no external commits.
Starting point is 01:40:46 The only commits you can make are from, like, if you're an internal member, anyone else can only go and submit an issue. Now, how do you become an internal member? You know, that depends on the project. Some projects don't really have a sensible path for it. And how do you become an internal member on a project? that doesn't have an external contribution system. If they have an employee system, that would be how. But if it relies on volunteers,
Starting point is 01:41:15 unless you have a repo, a section of the code base that you're willing to allow, be used by people who may possibly not know exactly what they're doing, like trying to do that, I don't know long-term how it works Like this model has been tested before Right this is not a new idea There is this book by Eric S Raymond called
Starting point is 01:41:42 Is it the Cathedral and the Bazaar? I think is what the name of it is Yes, the Cathedral and the Bazaar This is a book from 1999 published by O'Reilly Basically Also you might know it as Cat B basically
Starting point is 01:42:08 there are these two very distinct open source development models and they're both open source the cathedral model is what old Ganoo software used to do where the source code to be made available
Starting point is 01:42:21 with each release but the code developed between those releases would be restricted to a small group and that small group likely also wouldn't be accepting random external contributors either this is the way that
Starting point is 01:42:34 Nvidia does their open source stuff oftentimes as well. Then you have the bizarre model and the bizarre model basically is what open source is today. Every open source project for the most part today is the bizarre model where you have all the codes out there, all the contributions are out there, anybody can get involved, there's not really any criteria for if you can be a contributor or not. Sometimes it might have like, you know, policies about behavior and stuff like that. But outside of that, anyone can get involved, anyone can see the development of the code basically in real time, not in real time exactly, because you know you're not seeing the commits being made on individual people's systems, but real time as the commits are being submitted to the project. But the cathedral model has been completely forgotten about and in some cases has been kind of ridiculed for so, so long, that people even forget that that was a model they'd even existed at some point.
Starting point is 01:43:35 And in many ways, you could kind of cool what projects like GitLab do as well, where you have a open core model where you have these open source core, but then proprietary additions being made on top of that for the enterprise edition. Not exactly the same idea as a cathedral and bizarre model, but kind of a similar sort of idea. where the serious development is being done by the leadership class, by the members of the cathedral, the members of the church, and you as just a regular peasant as an outsider, you don't really get to see what is happening on the inside, basically until they are ready for you to see it. And this model has benefits.
Starting point is 01:44:18 A problem with the bizarre model is you see the fuck-ups along the way. You see what happens in the absolutely horrific, horrendous discussions that happen in projects like Wayland every single step of the way. You have the drama that's happening in Gnome because everything is happening in public if it's not happening in public, you just don't see it. I'm sure that every project that is developed in a private channel has a bunch of drama. But because that drama doesn't make it out to the public, unless people publish screenshots, you don't really just know what's going on. And you basically only see the
Starting point is 01:44:57 final result and maybe whatever they feel like, um, whatever they feel like maybe mentioning to you in the release notes. But outside of that, it's like, you just get what you are given and you're going to live with that. You don't get anything else. And that's, that's basically, basically it. I do think there's a possibility you're going to see more projects go down that kind of cathedral model just because they don't want to deal with a massive, massive, massive, not even influx, like a torrent, a torrent of AI-generated code. Because Cosmic, for example, Cosmic has just recently banned AI code in the project. They haven't banned external contributors, but they've fully banned AI code,
Starting point is 01:45:50 and it's basically just a reviewer problem. Yeah, I'm sure some developers in the project have their opinions on AI. I'm pretty sure Jeremy Sola doesn't like AI and I know that Michael Murphy doesn't like AI Michael, MM stick, pretty sure it's Michael doesn't like AI either But The public reason given
Starting point is 01:46:12 Is because it's just a nightmare to review And a lot of the commits that are coming in They may not necessarily be bad commits But they're not commits that Make sense with the trajectory of cosmic Cosmic has like a roadmap they are working on and a lot of the commits that come through don't align with that roadmap.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Like there are random issues that people have had many issues that I might have reported a couple of years ago that are still sitting open but they don't really align with the current goal of the project and that is a problem with it being really easy for anyone to get involved because people say things like oh if you've a problem submit the code. If you're a problem
Starting point is 01:46:53 you know get involved and fix it. And yeah, you can, but a lot of the time a project may not necessarily care to do that fix, because sometimes the project doesn't deem that problem to be a problem, it's more of like a design disagreement. Other times they might have processes like committees upon committees, like Gnome, for example, and other times, it might just not fit in with the goals that they have right now. Maybe it fits in in in the future when they had more discussion about whether or not this should be done or not, but right now just doesn't really necessarily align with what they want to do, like, in the immediate, especially with a project like Cosmic, which is, it's still not
Starting point is 01:47:38 ready. Like they might have, I'm pretty sure they had a stable release, didn't they? Cosmic, stable release. Yeah, they had a stable release last year, but it's not a stable release. It's still beta. It's still very much a beta project. And you can't have to get to the point where you're something like a KDE, where you were this well-established project with a lot of developers that are outside of the core team, that you can really start thinking about doing those additional things which may not really align with stuff. Like, there's still a lot of really basic fundamental bugs that Cosmic has.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I still think they haven't fixed the issue where the settings menu acts like a file manager, where you can drag the widgets out of the set. menu and drop them on your desktop and it copies a desktop file because the settings for the bar, the settings for the widget, literally is just a file manager that you can reorder things around. Like bugs like that or the fact that they still have broken window focus, where if you don't have the option to hover over a window and it not immediately raise the window, which means that setting the option, option to like setting the raise timer to zero completely breaks the system and it just doesn't work. So they still have a lot of fundamental
Starting point is 01:49:06 bugs like that to fix. It is not a mature project yet, let alone the fact that the libraries they are building off of are not mature libraries. So if they introduce more code that maybe they're not interested in maintaining, anytime there's a big library break, that's going to be more stuff they have to worry
Starting point is 01:49:22 about porting over, more stuff they have to worry about fixing, that didn't necessarily align with their goals. So I get why they might be a little bit kind of hesitant to go down that route. But I would hope that sometime in the future, when they are in a more stable state, maybe they revisit the idea and sort of think about what is going to be done here. I don't know. That's just my general thoughts. I'm not too far. either way. Right now I'm on KDE. I'm gonna be on KDE for a while. Maybe I go back to Hyperland at some point. I don't know. Maybe I try some other stuff out. I still have to do a
Starting point is 01:50:06 mango video at some point. See if I get around to that one. Various other things I have to check out and it feels like my voice is going but we should be fine. We should be fine. Last video I have to work on for the week anyway so it's not the biggest deal. Anyway, I think we're gonna bounce off there. I have some food to eat. I have places to go. So So yeah. I guess enjoy your day. All that good stuff. Check out the main channel. I don't know what's going to be out on the day after this comes out or the day before this comes out. But there will be something. So be sure to be there. I guess. That's going to be it for me. Hopefully next time I don't have as much of a sniffly nose. We shall see though. We are in the spring. So we're in the peak hay fever season. Peak allergy in the season. So we'll see about that. Anyway, that's gonna be it for me.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I'm gonna go, be good, be safe, and I am...

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